WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Rollercoaster Randy 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.960 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:16.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys let go. Are 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.200 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:24.320 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:28.200 much for that. It's time for the Break on Dallas 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:34.279 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:42.040 Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, March sixteenth, twenty 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.880 twenty two, Season seventeen, Episode number one, O eight. Welcome 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.320 to the latest edition and most sensillating edition of The Break. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.920 Life in Nest, WBC Morgan Studios at the Star Free 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.880 Agency is about to kick off. We've already had the 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.000 initial tampering period, I guess is the best way to 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.440 put it. But it's gonna kick off in Earnest this 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.800 afternoon where people can actually put their names on the 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.080 dotted line. And that's where it gets really interesting. We 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.880 got so many storylines, so many storylines to talk about. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.320 Welcome to the show, Nick Eatman, Camber Garcia. Dave's not 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.480 with us today. He's out. I don't know doing what, 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.400 but but he's not here today. So the three of 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.200 us are gonna hold it down and We're going to 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.000 get some opinions from these guys on the happenings around 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.640 cowboy Land the last couple of days. Here, let's start 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.760 first with obviously the biggest news that's happened in the 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:35.680 last twenty four hours. And Randy Gregory, let's start first. Nick, 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.120 just this level set for everybody in your opinion, and 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.120 you're as tight end as anybody. And I know you 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.200 absolutely are because I know people you talk to. Give 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.240 me a layout of what actually happened. Where Okay, where 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.559 do we get from the beginning to kind of where 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.360 we are now with Randy Gregory? And I'm about to 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.720 start this, but before I do, there's no way we 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.520 can do the show tomorrow like we're doing the show today. Well, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.800 I really like do the show tomorrow. I'll tell you this. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.920 We can always jump back on. I don't know that 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.600 Amber will put up with us two times in the offseason. 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.200 That'side in a contract, But yeah we can definitely, You 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.280 and I can jump on there and we know what's 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.040 on the contract. That's important, right, That's exactly right. I 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.280 gotta stick to the Contractum, this is a it was 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.760 a roller coaster ride. I don't know if it's over. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.320 But I mean because at four o'clock is like you said, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.040 that's when everything you know, that's when everything will be official, 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.959 or that's what it first can be official, doesn't have 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.280 you don't have to sign right right away. So we'll 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.320 see how this thing goes. But I think what's happened 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.760 here with Randy, this is what it looked like to me, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.600 is at the end of the day, and maybe even 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.639 at the start of the day, he didn't really want 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.560 to be in Dallas. Now, whether that's true or not, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.760 I don't know, but I mean, he's going to Denver, 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.800 so like I think if he really wanted to be here, 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.440 I think he would have. The problem that I have 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.560 with all of this is that it sounds like Jerry 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.560 got on the phone Monday night and had a long 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.320 talk with Randy and really quoted was recruited the hell 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.160 out of him. That's my problem. This guy stood by 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.480 you for seven years, he's done, he's done that supports 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.960 you when no one else did. He's offering you more 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.639 than he's offering you what everyone else is offering. You 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:24.880 signed lowball hometown discount. Why is this conversation not thirty seconds? 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:29.080 That's my problem. It's done, Randy, Let's do this. You know, 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.560 I'm proud of you. Let's get let's make this happen. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.160 So the fact that you have to recruit them, it 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.720 hard to me that that's that was an issue number one. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:41.320 And then anything about the contract. My personal opinion is 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.720 the agent who lives in Denver wanted his client to 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.240 be in Denver, and I think they came up with 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:52.760 this and maybe just stress this part about the language 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.280 in there. I don't think it's a I don't think 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.280 that was a big deal. It's a it's part of 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.840 every contract. And I think they're just using something to say, hey, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.760 you know, cowboys don't have faith in you now in 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.320 all fairness, and I guess, and what I want to 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:06.600 do is I want to make sure that that we 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.880 talk about every side of this. I think the argument 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.400 against that would be, well, it wasn't exactly the same 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.400 contract because there was this language in there. And this 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.640 is language that although it is very customary for Cowboys contracts, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.839 as we said, all Cowboys contracts seemingly have it in 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:27.000 and except for des that being said, Denver wasn't putting 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.120 it in the contract. So there was a depoint of 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.320 differentiation in Denver, maybe he doesn't have that language. In 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.360 Dallas he does, and that's maybe where they found a difference, 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.240 and that was enough of a difference for them to 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.200 want to make a different decision. I think that it 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.360 goes back to probably and this is just my opinion, 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.640 it goes back to what Nick was talking about the 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.640 agent and kind of who do you have talking in 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.800 your ear when you're at home, in your like personal space, 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.680 personal trusting space, as opposed to, yeah, you have lived 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.920 the relationship that you have with Jerry Jones and the cowboys, 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.800 and you know what you've experienced. But you're always like, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.839 in the back of your head, even if you think something, 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.800 you're thinking, oh, they're probably trying to get the best 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.599 end of the deal for themselves. So you're gonna trust 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.080 more the person that's supposed to be looking out for 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.280 you and supposed to be helping you out to get 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.279 you the best deal that you possibly can. But we 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.280 all know we've we've seen shows on TV, we've seen ballers. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.760 I think that you learn a lot from like the 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.800 what it's supposed to be, the side that we don't 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.800 get to see, and how business works in the NFL. 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:41.280 So you know, the the agent who knows what he 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.200 got going on and what kind of relationships he hasn't 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.120 with the Broncos and wants to kind of pull Randy 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.080 Gregory and just saying something like that like, oh, well 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.760 this was in your contract that wasn't before and you 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.320 shouldn't you know, so little things like that, Yeah, it's 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.200 gonna bother you. But I don't think until and I 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.360 learned this yesterday, and I think we all learned the lesson. 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.840 Until it is on paper, signed with the pen, possibly 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:11.159 a bluepen, we can't say what can happen or what 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.039 cannot happen. So until I hear that that's signed and 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.320 I see a picture of him signing, I won't say 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.719 whether he's going over there, staying or whatever, because we 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.559 know the kind of power that Jerry Jones has too. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.320 But like Nick said, I don't think it should have 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.160 been this dramatic and so confusing. Yeah, I mean you 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.440 touched on the part that I think bothers me the 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.159 most about this. I know, Nick, you said. The part 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.159 that bothers you, that bothers me the most is that 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.320 there was this characterization and I don't know if it 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.120 came from the agent or Randy or someone else, just 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.640 the media putting it in there. But that was just 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.279 the idea that the Cowboys just kind of at the 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:51.120 eleventh hour just slip this little caveat into this contract 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.360 and hope they wouldn't see it. And that doesn't seem 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.839 to be what happened here. It's a situation where this 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.400 is a standard part of their contracts. By the way, 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.920 it wasn't Andy's contract, his first contract where there was 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.440 guaranteed money in it, so they should have known mentioned 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.520 the difference between like what the kind of contract he 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.640 had last year, because people are also taking that was 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.160 not a guaranteed contract. He didn't have guaranteed money in that, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.360 and that's why the clause is in. That clause is 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.680 in there in contract to have guaranteed money. So his 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.120 first contract back in whatever year that was when he 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.320 first got into the NFL, that one did have the 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.480 same language in it as this one has in it, 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.960 So it wasn't something where it doesn't appear to be 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.400 something where it the Cowboys were just kind of like, hey, 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.200 let's see if they catch this, let's just kind of, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.560 you know, drop this in there. It was one of 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.920 the situations where they put their standard language in there, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.360 and for whatever reason, someone characterized it as the cowboys 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.240 were trying to get over on them. And that's the 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.680 part I think is is being disingenuous. I have no 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.600 problem with the player deciding for himself, Hey, that's not 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.560 something that works for me. I don't think that's something 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.520 because I assume if it was in everybody else's contractscept 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.240 for das Dak and his agent said at some point, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.760 you know that doesn't work for us, and so you know, 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.440 it's every player and their representatives right to be able 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.120 to negotiate and say that's not something we want to 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.640 agree to. Where I have a problem is when someone 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.120 makes it seem like there was kind of this this 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.160 nefarious thing else going on with it really was. Yeah, 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:18.320 but but let's let's talk about specifically what we're what 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.840 you're saying there though. I mean, like if you don't 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.160 have a problem with that, but like I have a 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:24.920 problem with that. I mean if you walk in here 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.440 and say, hey, guys, you can't come in the building 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.080 here if you've got guns, and someone just turns around says, well, okay, 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.000 see you guys later. I'm going back, it's like, well, 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.559 what's the guy. The guy's got guns, you know what 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.760 I mean, Like like yeah, but but but but if 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.760 you don't, if that is the issue, if that is 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.320 the issue of like, well I don't want to agree 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.720 to that, well, then what do we anticipate because because 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.040 here's the thing. We are talking about a league where 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.720 you can get fined or suspended even when the court, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.400 like the legal system, says there's nothing here. We saw 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.960 it happen with Zeke like it happens in this league. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.760 It doesn't take illegal finding. It just takes the commissioner saying, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.000 you know, it doesn't sit right with me, So I'm 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.800 gonna find you don't sit right with me, I'm gonna 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.880 suspend you, and now my guarantees are loss. So again, 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.440 by the way, I don't I don't not trying to 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:16.560 make a judgment as to whether this is a good 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.600 clause or a backlause. What I'm saying is I think 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.680 the player has a right to be able to say 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.679 this doesn't work for me. I see areas in this 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.400 clause that could be harmful to me, and if I 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.079 have enough leverage, I choose to say I don't want 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:31.400 to do that and I will take a deal that 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.920 doesn't have it in That's his right, that's absolutely his right. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.120 And you know what else is his right as well, 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.800 is he can like what people don't know, Like I 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.400 said that, what I said about Jerry and them, and 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.320 it should have been a quick conversation. But what you 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.320 don't know is what a player needs in there a person. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.400 I'm just a player. What a person needs in their 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.720 life as far as change, do they need a different 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.880 I mean, he's been here for seven years. Maybe he 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.920 wants to go somewhere else, Maybe he wants to go 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.959 to a different state, whatever it is. I'm just saying, 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.440 you go to wherever you want where. I mean, he 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.880 doesn't have to take a discount because of Jerry. You know, 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.480 you don't have to do that. You would think you 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.000 if it was close, you'd think he would. But so 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.679 when it's done, when he signs, you know, I might 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.600 have a different opinion on it. But right now, who 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.240 knows what's going to happen. You know, it looks like 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.160 as we sit right here before noon, you know, in 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.040 in Dallas, I mean, it looks like he's gonna go 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.920 to Denver. But guess what this time yesterday it looked 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.360 like he was gonna go to Dallas, or it might 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.199 have been leaving a little bit before this. So I 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.080 think the point that that that I'm hearing you make 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.520 is everybody just kind of wait, let's see how this 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.760 all goes. And by the way, that's across the league, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.840 everything you've been hearing over the last two days, it 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.240 was set up by the league to do exactly what 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.480 it's doing. Create conversation because none of this, none of 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.920 this is done until the papers signed, and that can't 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.679 happen until at the earliest four pm today. So right now, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.440 let's just see how this all plays out. It's looking 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.560 like he is going to Denver. We'll see how that 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.320 plays out, and we'll see if by four today or 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.320 at some point after that, if he signs a contract 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.880 with Denver real quick. This clause obviously I know the 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.960 gist of it, but do you do we know specifically 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.080 what it said, oh in the contract. Yes, I think 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:23.840 it's a standard with any time a player US is suspended, 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.280 like any kind of guaranteed money that he has is voided. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.640 That's what happened with Lyle Collins. That's why you know 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.440 in Lyall that's a player that could have some news 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.240 today too. I mean, he might be released today, he 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.280 might be traded today. You know. I mean I think 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.280 if the Cowboys could get another fifth round pick, that'd 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.760 be great. You know, they only got four, so maybe 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:50.120 one of themill hit. Maybe maybe one of them will kick. Anyways, Um, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:55.400 I don't know about that text. What what? What? Wow? Wow? 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.040 Is that what we're doing today? Oh? I mean that 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.640 was a bad joke, was it? Oh? I thought you 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.920 were messing with my Texas No, no, I'm talking about him. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.960 He's like, well, maybe one can kick. I think it's 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:10.360 a great joke. But it's okay, that's ok like Chris, 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:15.360 Like Chris is the stand up guy. Anyways, Um, what 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.480 I'm just saying, I mean, who who's to say, what 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.280 a funny joke? Maybe they'll get maybe they'll draft a kicker. 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:21.920 Maybe they'll draft to kick in the fifth round. They 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.840 got four picks, well they got four other picks, and 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.679 you know what, maybe they'll resign Greg's airline. And that 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.120 really is a thing that could happen. See, we try 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:31.920 to have a good show. I'm telling you. They could 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.360 resign Greg's airline. They could punter, they could they could 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.760 they need a punter? They need um, you know angers 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.160 out there. We're getting way off from where I want 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.200 to be right now the relationship or you don't. They're 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.600 enough with us back and either it is or it is. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:49.560 And when you can, when you're in the relationship, just 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.600 move on. Everybody. Everybody do other things, you know exactly, 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.120 I'll have to Rob Phillips. He was working here and 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.640 then he left and he came back. We don't. You 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.440 don't want to Rob to come back? Oh? Is that 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.720 what we're gonna? Just made it personal? Well, I mean, 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.080 you know, sometimes it happens, all right. So here's my 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.920 question for you guys, Um, how much of a problem 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.840 is it if Randy doesn't come back? How much a 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.559 problem is that for Dallas? If you can take this 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.000 from mini stamp, from a from a van standpoint, from 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.760 a pr standpoint, from a football standpoint, what how much 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.319 of a problem is this for Dallas? Well, it's just 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.400 all about the pivot. Mean, where do they go from there? 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.840 I mean, I mean they had it budgeted for what 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.120 fourteen million? Yea, do something with that? You know, like 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.160 you next year are you gonna get two players from that? 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.959 Are you gonna go get Dorance Armstrong now and someone else? 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.079 Are you gonna go get um A von Miller? Which 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.920 that's not gonna be fourteen, that's gonna be more than that. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.199 So can Bobby Wagner be in the mix? Yeah? And 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.440 I know this. The cowboys have made phone calls to 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.360 just throw them out there, and the answer is yes, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:55.040 Chandler Jones, Bobby Wagner, Dante Fowler, Um von Miller, who else? 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.920 I mean, Zadarius Smith. They they've they've done their due 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.040 diligence with all of it, and they're they're just kind 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.000 of get the parameters and see. Um, you know, I 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.320 think Durrance is in the mix here. You know, if 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.280 if Randy officially signed with Denver, I think Randy, I 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.640 think Durrance would be in the mix. But Daurance and 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:17.640 someone else, Um Layton vander Esh sounds like Layton's not 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.960 getting them the money that he thought he would get 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.360 open the open market. But but he could get some 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.560 some deals today. It sounds like New England and pittsburgher 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.440 in the mix for him. Jay Ron Curse, that's an 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.560 interesting one as well. Um. I think Curse thought he'd 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.840 get a little bit more money to this seems like 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.720 one where a lot of people in the league thought 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.720 Curse was going to just go back to Dallas and 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.080 dan Quinn and they didn't really mess with it. So 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.160 I don't think he's got like, you know, they don't 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.680 have anything to bounce it off on, and they're working 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.080 on a deal and they want him to be happy, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.960 and they might also look at it and say, like 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.080 this may be one of those players that really works 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.280 for Dance System, maybe not so much for ours. Maybe, 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.280 you know, maybe that's part of it, is he's more 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.080 valuable to Dallas maybe than he is to a lot 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.680 of other teams. I think of literally, at the end 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.400 of the day, I really think Jayron Curse situation. I 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.880 think that if I'm predicting, I think that they'll they'll 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.080 get a deal with him. That's what I think. And 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.280 to be honest with you, Nick, going into you know, 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.400 the offseason this year, the way I looked at the 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.640 defense was I need to keep one of my two 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.960 defensive ends and I need to keep three. I mean, 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.680 I mean, you weren't factoring in Durance. I wasn't factor 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.840 I assume Durance and Cedric to me were guys I 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.760 didn't think they would be able to retain because I 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:33.840 figured the amount of money they would be valuable, that 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.480 the amount of money they would demand on the open 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.480 market would be more than Dallas would be willing to 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.720 pay for the roles they would play him. Yeah, that 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.760 being said, I felt like I needed to keep one 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.800 of my two defensive ends. I needed to keep one 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.000 of those one of those free safeties, and I needed 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.000 to keep my strong safety. And if I did that, 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.400 I felt like I could fill in a lot of 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.520 the other blanks between draft lower level free agents. I 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.440 felt like I could. I feel like that gives you 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.200 still a really good defense. Those are the core that's scores. Now. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.560 If you get both defensive ends, now you're really working 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.920 with something. If you add a free agent that you 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.720 weren't expecting, now you're really working with something. But to me, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.440 if they fulfilled that, they've done what I think they 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.880 had to do, and then everything else is the great. Well, 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.840 going back to your question, I think this is a 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.200 big problem if and I'm not saying Randy Gregory is 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.680 the best defensive end pass rusher in the NFL. He's not. 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.680 But if you don't find someone that's better than him 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.560 or that can somewhat provide you something equal to what 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:33.280 he was giving you. Then you're now you're messing with 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.480 the side of the ball that was the good side, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.080 the one side that is kind of giving you some excitement, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.080 some hope, you know, after the transition and the volvement 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.280 that we saw last year with what Dan Quinn was 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.240 able to do. Now you if you don't replace that position, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.680 you're messing now with also one Micah Parson might be 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.480 able to give you a player that was so versatile 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.480 and that was able to help you in different ways, 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.760 but you can pin him down at a certain position 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:04.720 because then I think that's really gonna affect you your 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.600 defense overall. So right now I'm very concerned. I am 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.720 not happy or excited about the offense. And we still 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.480 have guys and all that, but there are a lot 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:18.120 of things to fix, a lot of uncertainty a wide receiver. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.120 Even though we know we have City Lamb, we have 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.800 Michael Gallup. Now they also brought Noah Brown back and 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.320 all that. But is City Lamb gonna be able to 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.399 step up? How is Michael Gallup coming back from that injury? 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.960 How is he gonna look like at the role that 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.199 they're gonna give him as well. So a lot of 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.280 uncertaining there the online and all that. But if they 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:44.320 don't bring someone exciting on the defense right now, I'm 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.919 raising my hand of someone that's gonna be walking around 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:52.359 with a grumpy face, unhappy and not excited because there 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.439 are a lot of things to fix right now. You know, 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.119 with Randy, if he's not on the team, I'll just 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.280 look at his stats and it's eight and is going on, 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.600 you know, and some of his injury history and you know, 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.879 because that's looking at glass half full and half empty 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.480 and all that, like, you look at it and go, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.240 you know, he's twenty nine and he's not really done anything. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.040 He's never made a Pro Bowl. You can do whatever. Yeah, 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.240 and if you sign him, all you gotta do is 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.320 show me the clip against Washington where he tipped the 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:20.840 ball and then caught it and ran it in then 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.000 Steff Farm and all that stuff. Give me that guy. 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.160 So I get it. I mean, and that's what Denver's doing. 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.640 And you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna badmouth 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.880 him as a as a player. He was a guy 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.960 I would have wanted to sign. Um. I can see 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.200 the value there. Um, because I think he's a he's 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:41.359 a freakish player. Um, he's he's not been consistent though 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.160 in his life at times and then obviously on the field, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.439 and and they go hand in hand. But um, you 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:52.120 know if Denver, if Denver gets him, I mean they're 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:56.879 getting an outstanding player potentially. He's got the potential to 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.320 be as freakish as anybody in the league. Just doesn't 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.480 always show it out there. And that's that's the hiccup. 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.960 But the Cowboys wanted him back. And you know, I'll 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.440 say this about Jerry Jones. I think Jerry Jones could 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.359 stand it and in front of a beach and sell 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.360 sand to people as they walk in and say, hey, 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.280 would you like some sand? I think I think you 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:21.080 can do. So I'm just gonna say this if if Randy, 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.800 if Randy gets any more phone calls from Jerry, like 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:27.200 you better right, Like if he wants, don't get on 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.240 the phone. Yeah, don't, don't talk to Jerry. Because I'm 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.560 just saying I trust Jerry. If if Jerry you had 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.160 the last day, I trust him. But you know, we'll see. 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:35.800 As it stands right now, it looks like he's going 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.080 to Denver. But I want to see that ink. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.119 I agree with that, and I will say this, and 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:42.800 I'm actually go We're gonna take a break when we 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:44.439 come back. I want to ask you guys the question, 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.840 would you consider taking the money that now is available 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:51.040 if they're not going to sign Randy yet, Randy, would 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:52.800 you consider taking that money and maybe using it on 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.040