Speaker 1: Episode three forty seven, How to Start running with Martinez Evans.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast, where you'll learn to
Speaker 2: save money, embrace simplicity, and live your life. Here your
Speaker 2: hosts Jen and Jill.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast. My name is Jen,
Speaker 1: my name is Jill, and today we are sharing a
Speaker 1: interview with one of my personal favorite runners, the creator
Speaker 1: of the Slow af Run Club, Martinez Evans. If you
Speaker 1: don't know who he is, he is at three hundred
Speaker 1: pounds and running on all of his socials and he
Speaker 1: is making running accessible for everyone, and I love, love
Speaker 1: love him. I love what he's all about. I love
Speaker 1: the people that the other other social media runners that
Speaker 1: are in his profiles that he highlights like they have
Speaker 1: given me so much encouragement as a non traditional runner
Speaker 1: that I wanted to share him with you and then
Speaker 1: also encourage others to pick up this hobby that I
Speaker 1: have loved so much and see if it's right for you.
Speaker 3: This is an excellent interview you all know, and you'll
Speaker 3: hear me talk throughout. I personally am not a runner,
Speaker 3: but if there's anyone who's going to convince me, it's
Speaker 3: definitely Martinez and hopefully you'll see why.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love to say that running is frugal fitness,
Speaker 1: and it can be, and we'll talk about this in
Speaker 1: the interview, but it also cannot be. And there's nobody
Speaker 1: that can espouse that better than today's sponsor overpriced five
Speaker 1: K ten k's half marathons and marathons. Maybe you have
Speaker 1: started running because you don't want to pay for a
Speaker 1: gym membership. You just want to see if running is
Speaker 1: right for you, and that's amazing. That's the frugal way
Speaker 1: to do it. Don't procrass to spend and spend all
Speaker 1: this money on shoes and outfits and gym memberships and
Speaker 1: dumbbells before you know, you're gonna stick with the dang thing,
Speaker 1: but be prepared. If you do stick with the dang thing,
Speaker 1: then you may find yourself signing up for overpriced five
Speaker 1: kse ten k's half marathons and marathons like the ones
Speaker 1: at Disney World or Disneyland, or the New York Marathon
Speaker 1: or Boston. It is a gateway drug to spending a
Speaker 1: lot of money on a sport that you thought was
Speaker 1: going to be frugal when you started it. But if
Speaker 1: you value it, spend the money on it. And if
Speaker 1: you don't know what you value yet, then sign up
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Speaker 1: There was no script on that. The script said friend letter.
Speaker 3: And seamless connection made between overpriced running parades.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't spend money on nice backs or shoes,
Speaker 1: but when the Disney races open up, I'm there, even
Speaker 1: if I'm one week postpartum, I'm there. So if you
Speaker 1: are excited to develop a habit that causes you to
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money, no, I'm just kidding. I do.
Speaker 1: I love running. I got into running in college. I have.
Speaker 1: I grew up with asthma. I am not athletic. You
Speaker 1: literally throw a ball at me and I will not
Speaker 1: catch it. I will look at it as it flies
Speaker 1: by me. That is how athletic I am. And I'm slow.
Speaker 1: And I picked up running in college as a way
Speaker 1: to stop having asthma attacks. So literally, that was why
Speaker 1: I just wanted to stop. And I also like had
Speaker 1: like fifteen pounds to lose. I had just run. I
Speaker 1: had just spent three months on the road living in
Speaker 1: a van, eating Natella for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So
Speaker 1: that was also part of it.
Speaker 3: And it has followed us for more frugal tips. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 3: it's not the van life Instagram shows.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, Jill, we talked about how Jill lived
Speaker 1: in an RV. Everyone forgets I lived in a Vannutella.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Before Jill lived in an RV, I lived
Speaker 1: in a sixteen passenger van. But running has really shifted
Speaker 1: my relationship with fitness and health. Before running, I did
Speaker 1: not have a healthy relationship with my body. And running
Speaker 1: has given me a way to pursue fitness, not because
Speaker 1: of the way it will make me look, but the
Speaker 1: way it makes me feel. And I think everyone deserves
Speaker 1: to have something like that. So for you, it may
Speaker 1: not be running, but I wanted to share Martinez's wisdom
Speaker 1: with you because maybe it is, and maybe you just
Speaker 1: don't think it's for you. But this episode, this interview
Speaker 1: is a very very great way to uh to kind
Speaker 1: of find out if it's really your preferences or if
Speaker 1: it's mental barriers that are keeping you from getting out there.
Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Martinez Evans has run over
Speaker 1: eight marathons since his doctor told him to lose weight
Speaker 1: or die, and he has coached hundreds of runners. He's
Speaker 1: the founder of Slow af Run Club, which is a
Speaker 1: community of over twenty thousand members worldwide, and he has
Speaker 1: a new book out called Slow af Run Club, The
Speaker 1: Ultimate Guide for Anybody who wants to Run. When he's
Speaker 1: not running races around the world, he enjoys speaking passionately
Speaker 1: about issues related to size inclusivity, mindset, DEI and mental
Speaker 1: health and he is a joy. So here he is.
Speaker 3: Let's get to it.
Speaker 1: Martinez. Welcome to Frugal Friends podcast. We are so excited
Speaker 1: to have you here today.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: What an amazing opportunity to talk with you about the
Speaker 3: community that you've bill. I am so impressed by it.
Speaker 3: I was checking out your website before we jumped on
Speaker 3: with you, and it feels so congruent in many ways
Speaker 3: to some of the things that have been really valuable
Speaker 3: for us with Frugal Friends of community and how important
Speaker 3: that is for these other endeavors that can be quite difficult,
Speaker 3: so specifically as it relates to running. I'm so excited
Speaker 3: to hear your perspective. But can you tell us a
Speaker 3: little bit about yourself about slow af How did you
Speaker 3: get started running? What do you recommend to others? Just
Speaker 3: kick it off about yourself?
Speaker 4: All right, good morning, get even to get out the
Speaker 4: noon to wherever you and the world while listening to
Speaker 4: this thing. My name is Martinez Evans. I am the
Speaker 4: founder and Slowia Front Club. Slow Front Club it's a
Speaker 4: community of twenty five thousand members worldwide who has the
Speaker 4: all the same goal of just running in the body
Speaker 4: that you have today. Overall goal and mission with the
Speaker 4: Slawyer Front Club is just to provide accessibility in the
Speaker 4: sport of running in ways that traditionally is historically has
Speaker 4: not been provided and we just look forward to just
Speaker 4: making a big splash in the sport of running, especially
Speaker 4: for how I like to call it adult on set runners,
Speaker 4: right for people who maybe never been active in high
Speaker 4: school or in college and now getting older in age
Speaker 4: and just trying to figure out what is this movement thing.
Speaker 4: We've planned to be that place for those individuals. I
Speaker 4: started runing about ten years ago, so more or less,
Speaker 4: I want to go see a doctor. He called me
Speaker 4: fat told me I was going I either need to
Speaker 4: lose weight or die. But I wasn't even there because
Speaker 4: of any of that stuff. Basically, I was with this
Speaker 4: doctor because I was having some hip issues because I
Speaker 4: was working at a job that was required me to
Speaker 4: be on my feet for about ten hours a day.
Speaker 4: And I went to this doctor and he was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I know it's wrong with your hip. You need to
Speaker 4: lose weight or die. We had some arguments. I wanted
Speaker 4: to hit him, but I didn't. I told him I
Speaker 4: was going to run a marathon. He laughed at me
Speaker 4: and told me that was the most dumbest think he heard. Hey,
Speaker 4: here's a practice of medicine, and if I ever tried
Speaker 4: to run a marathon, I'll die on the course. So,
Speaker 4: needless to say, I left that doctor's office and I
Speaker 4: bought running shoes that day, and I was like, well,
Speaker 4: let's see if I die. And that was about ten
Speaker 4: years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And how soon after that did you
Speaker 1: run that marathon?
Speaker 4: I ran a marathon, my first marathon, pray, about eighteen
Speaker 4: months after meeting that doctor.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, did you send him photos of your finishing?
Speaker 1: How did you rub it in his face?
Speaker 4: I never seen him again another day in my life.
Speaker 1: Did you send him a copy of your book? Should you?
Speaker 4: Maybe the thing is been so long, I don't even
Speaker 4: know this doctor is even alive anymore. Who knows?
Speaker 1: Like that's so right, I don't.
Speaker 4: Even know if he's even practicing medicine. It's one of
Speaker 4: those things where I don't think about him. There's a
Speaker 4: little message in there for him if he ever come
Speaker 4: about this book, but I'm pretty sure he don't remember
Speaker 4: who I am. Like, I'm pretty sure I'm just another
Speaker 4: fat black somebody that he told he was fat that
Speaker 4: day he went on about his life.
Speaker 3: Hmm. It's so lumbering because what did he want you
Speaker 3: to do as a result between a rock and a
Speaker 3: hard place, And yes, you can't do good for yourself
Speaker 3: in either direction. It's so maddening. You made an incredible
Speaker 3: circumstance out of that experience. It's a bummer that that
Speaker 3: was the impetus, but sometimes anger really does create all
Speaker 3: some forward motion for us.
Speaker 4: Spite is the best motivator.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm glad to hear that you've completely moved on.
Speaker 3: You don't think about him much, but that was a
Speaker 3: fire for sure.
Speaker 1: We would be doing some salacious things that we probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't we wouldn't talk about publicly, so no need to
Speaker 1: pry into it. So tell me about those eighteen months
Speaker 1: between that doctor visit and your first marathon. What was
Speaker 1: the journey like to get there? And is that what
Speaker 1: you recommend people recreate or like, what are the mistakes
Speaker 1: that you made? Just walk us through that eighteen months.
Speaker 4: So that's what my whole book is about, is all
Speaker 4: the mistakes I made and running more or less. So
Speaker 4: let's talk about it. I bought shoes that day, I
Speaker 4: went running, and I fell off the treadmill on my
Speaker 4: first run. Didn't run longer than fifteen seconds, So that's
Speaker 4: a mistake that happened, and pretty much embarrass myself in
Speaker 4: front of the whole fitness center of my apartment complex,
Speaker 4: because you know who goes running for the first time
Speaker 4: in their apartment gym with everybody being there but me,
Speaker 4: So that was something I would say more or less,
Speaker 4: it was like kind of hillatious, like I bumped and
Speaker 4: shuffled and bruised myself along this journey from funnel off
Speaker 4: the treadmill to having very bad chafe. I used to
Speaker 4: call my legs taco meat thighs because like the chafe
Speaker 4: is so red and raw that it kind of looked
Speaker 4: like taco meat. I've had people yell let me.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's worse things to look like, right, Tacos
Speaker 3: are real great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been awful my thighs to look like taco meat.
Speaker 4: So there was a lot of stuff that I learned,
Speaker 4: But I would say, like my journey was kind of methodical,
Speaker 4: where I learned how to run a five k, and
Speaker 4: then I ran a few five k's and then I
Speaker 4: trained for ten k and I ran a few ten k's,
Speaker 4: and then trained four half ran a few halves, and
Speaker 4: then trained for a marathon. It kind of just went
Speaker 4: from there. So very methodical, if that's the way you
Speaker 4: want to do it. Absolutely. However, I just learned along
Speaker 4: the way throughout this journey was that the typical running
Speaker 4: books and just the typical knowledge about running is not
Speaker 4: necessarily made for slower individuals or individuals who are in
Speaker 4: the back of the pack or like non traditional runners. Right,
Speaker 4: so there was no information out there for me, right
Speaker 4: so much so like I went to like become a
Speaker 4: certified run coach, not to train anybody, but just so
Speaker 4: I can learn. I thought to myself, Well, if I'm
Speaker 4: a certified run coach, like I'll learn all the things
Speaker 4: that I need to. Like, if I learn everything I
Speaker 4: need to train somebody else, then I can train myself.
Speaker 4: And like still bumped and bruised myself along the way. Wow, sorry, yeah, something,
Speaker 4: Oh we.
Speaker 3: Usually do BOLLI But I was like, is she about
Speaker 3: to say something?
Speaker 1: When we're like listening to somebody intently, sometimes we'll lose
Speaker 1: our volley. So I am personally a runner, but it
Speaker 1: took me a long time to be able to say
Speaker 1: that because I'm not fast, I'm not naturally athletic, I'm
Speaker 1: not a gifted runner. I'm not a gifted athlete. And
Speaker 1: so I felt like I can't call myself a runner
Speaker 1: because I'm not fast. I'm not a good quote unquote
Speaker 1: good runner. And it took following people like you and
Speaker 1: other quote unquote non traditional runners to accept that, Okay,
Speaker 1: I run, therefore I'm a runner. And I think we
Speaker 1: internalize if we're not fast, if we don't look like
Speaker 1: the people running the Boston Marathon, that we can't do this,
Speaker 1: and it's really like a self fulfilling prophecy. Did you
Speaker 1: feel that? How'd you get over it?
Speaker 4: Oh? Man, you got ten years of therapy and like
Speaker 4: just a lot of self work. I wish I had
Speaker 4: an easy answer for that's hard, right, Yeah, it took
Speaker 4: years to do that. But I think one of the
Speaker 4: things that I kind of learned throughout this journey was like,
Speaker 4: we're all about and by rules that somebody made up,
Speaker 4: and you never know who these people are, but somebody
Speaker 4: else made rules for you, and you don't know who
Speaker 4: they are, and we just buy abide in by those rules.
Speaker 4: So I think for me that was kind of the
Speaker 4: start of like, oh, if that's the case for like
Speaker 4: everything else in this world, it's definitely the case we're
Speaker 4: running as well. If that's the case, like why not
Speaker 4: just create my own rules and live by my own rules,
Speaker 4: because if that makes me happy, then like who cares
Speaker 4: what everybody else say? And then like I started to
Speaker 4: pull like peel away at the end of like running.
Speaker 4: One of the things I learned throughout this process was
Speaker 4: most races are permitted as a parade. There's no such
Speaker 4: thing as like a race permit.
Speaker 1: I had no idea.
Speaker 4: In certain areas, in certain towns and countries, certain municipalities,
Speaker 4: they don't have a race permit. They have a parade permit.
Speaker 4: And if you think about it in that sense, once
Speaker 4: you get the elite athletes out the way, and if
Speaker 4: your job is not an elite athlete to like win
Speaker 4: races and get first, second or third place, or if
Speaker 4: you're not in that first corral, then all of us
Speaker 4: are just running in a parade.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: I do too.
Speaker 3: I'm here for the float.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, that, like we are all just
Speaker 4: human floats, and that if that's the case. Last time
Speaker 4: I see a parade, I don't see like the Santa
Speaker 4: Claus Parade, being like, oh, I need to catch up
Speaker 4: with the Mackey Moss float, and like I'm not afloat
Speaker 4: because I'm not running as fast as Mickey Mouse. Like
Speaker 4: everybody just a part of it in people way, and
Speaker 4: they cheer and they take pictures. We're doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: Amazing. I'm usually the one holding the sign taking the pictures, screaming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is super relevant for me because my next
Speaker 1: half marathon is at Disney. Okay, so I will be
Speaker 1: running next to Mickey Mouse and he'll be standing still though,
Speaker 1: so I won't have to catch up to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, part of the parade. I'm becoming more and more
Speaker 3: obsessed with this idea of you can do things just
Speaker 3: because you love them. And it's also okay if you
Speaker 3: don't have a personal goal of becoming the best at
Speaker 3: it or even continuing to set personal best records. That's
Speaker 3: great if that's you. But I'm meeting so many people
Speaker 3: in various space is being like, I do this thing
Speaker 3: that makes me a rock climber, that makes me a runner,
Speaker 3: that makes me an artist, but I don't have these
Speaker 3: lofty goals of doing the Boston Marathon or hiking the
Speaker 3: highest peak or being a paid artist, and that's okay.
Speaker 3: I can do with this what I want. I can
Speaker 3: set personal great records, or I can just maintain and
Speaker 3: all of that is beautiful. And I'm getting some of
Speaker 3: that message overlap from what you're describing of your journey
Speaker 3: and your community.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, because like it goes back to rules like who
Speaker 4: made this stuff up? Like who made up the fact
Speaker 4: that if you're not training for Boston, then you're not
Speaker 4: a runner, right, if you don't qualify to run Boston,
Speaker 4: you're not a runner. Well guess what, Like I've ran
Speaker 4: Boston and I ain't qualified, so that makes me less
Speaker 4: than a runner.
Speaker 1: Like kick Rocks, how did you run Boston?
Speaker 4: Oh? I was sponsored by one of the their sponsors.
Speaker 4: So that's the thing. Like, you can run Boston so
Speaker 4: many different ways. Of course, there's qualifying and chasing three hours,
Speaker 4: but there's also running for charity, and you can do that.
Speaker 4: There's also the sponsors of the race usually have bibs
Speaker 4: that they give away to like random people just kind
Speaker 4: of so like imagine reaching out to like one of
Speaker 4: the sponsors and being like, hey, I got this compelling
Speaker 4: story and my dreams to run Boston. Do you have
Speaker 4: any bibs? And they might be like, yeah, here's a bib,
Speaker 4: or like, you can also pay for a bib. There's
Speaker 4: this company called Marathon Tours that you can buy a
Speaker 4: bib through them to run Boston. Wow, there's so many
Speaker 4: ways to run Boston Marathon that people are like, Oh,
Speaker 4: if you didn't do the whole three hour thing, you
Speaker 4: ain't do it. I'm like, so what. So that's the
Speaker 4: thing is that by what rules are we listening to?
Speaker 4: Who are making this stuff up? And when you start
Speaker 4: to like peel back the ways that you can do it,
Speaker 4: you can be like so what. And I think that's
Speaker 4: the funny thing because it's people that's like, well, you know,
Speaker 4: you took a spot for somebody else could because you
Speaker 4: didn't qualify, And I'm like, no, I didn't. The company
Speaker 4: sponsored this race and they get bibs and it has
Speaker 4: nothing to do while do with the number of spots
Speaker 4: they're available for people who got qualified. Don't mind your business.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, we say that all the time with finances.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why it's blowing my mind with running,
Speaker 1: Like there are so everyone is trying to live this
Speaker 1: budget or this financial goal that somebody else said that
Speaker 1: they should reach or live, and we're saying, like to
Speaker 1: question that. And it's the same with any activity. You
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. Thank you for coming.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. Like if people want to run Boston,
Speaker 4: like if they want to qualify, be my desk, Like
Speaker 4: more power to you. But like you, running a race
Speaker 4: at a certain speed does not make you morally superior
Speaker 4: than somebody else. And I think for a lot of
Speaker 4: people we kind of tending to like forget that, like
Speaker 4: that make you morally superior because you ran faster and
Speaker 4: you great golf clap, But like that don't move me.
Speaker 4: Letting people know that, Like there's so many ways to
Speaker 4: get into this thing. If you want to run it
Speaker 4: that you don't even have to qualify and you can
Speaker 4: do it. And if that's a part of your journey
Speaker 4: you can do just do it right, But like you
Speaker 4: don't have to go with the rigamarole of all the
Speaker 4: other stuff that are formalities that people put out there
Speaker 4: that tell you, oh, well, you got to do it
Speaker 4: this way. And if you don't do it this way,
Speaker 4: then you don't matter. I blow people's minds when I
Speaker 4: show them to Boston Metal, like yeah, just the metal.
Speaker 4: I got to Boston and it was like so many
Speaker 4: things about what they think about Boston start to run
Speaker 4: through their head. One of them was like, oh, you qualify,
Speaker 4: Like what race did you qualify? And how fast you run?
Speaker 4: And it's like, I didn't qualify ran via a sponsor.
Speaker 4: Go reach out to Amazon or like, go reach out
Speaker 4: to Adidas and see if they can get you a bib.
Speaker 4: It blows their mind because it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: you ran Boston and didn't qualify. So it kind of
Speaker 4: messes up their whole external folk of like what it
Speaker 4: means to be a runner or be to run Boston
Speaker 4: and like do it without necessarily doing it in a
Speaker 4: way that everybody thinks they need to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got creative. You didn't follow the rules. How
Speaker 1: dare you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So for those listening who are interested in blowing minds
Speaker 3: or are as equally as angry as you were when
Speaker 3: you got started. How much does it cost to start running?
Speaker 3: Let's yeah, that is a true business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, because it can be very frugal. It
Speaker 1: can be very inexpensive, or it can be very expensive.
Speaker 1: There's a spectrum.
Speaker 4: That is a trick question for my frugals.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to trap you.
Speaker 1: Like when you started, what were the expenses you were
Speaker 1: happy to pay, stuff you wish you hadn't bought, stuff
Speaker 1: you wish you'd bought sooner, or even like race expenses,
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, theoretically, if somebody wanted to go out the run,
Speaker 4: they can run today, like with the stuff that they have.
Speaker 4: Everybody has a pair of sneakers. They might be beat up,
Speaker 4: but like if you wanted to start running, you can
Speaker 4: do that. But eventually you're gonna have to go get
Speaker 4: a pair of shoes. Like that's probably going to be
Speaker 4: your most suspensive, well the initial most suspensive thing that
Speaker 4: you're going to buy, because like running shoes are expensive.
Speaker 4: They can cost you anywhere between like one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty plus. So like going into like a running specialty
Speaker 4: store and getting a shoe fit, things of that sort,
Speaker 4: that's by far like the most important thing, and then
Speaker 4: it could be the most expensive things starting out running gear, shorts,
Speaker 4: running brawls for the ladies, things of that sort. Most
Speaker 4: of the time we have some of that stuff at
Speaker 4: home just laying around, so you could theoretically just use
Speaker 4: that until you feel like, hey, I want to buy
Speaker 4: some stuff, but like that could stuff you want to
Speaker 4: lay yourself out and get new gear, like maybe three
Speaker 4: hundred dollars get your whole running wardrobe, and then you
Speaker 4: start talking about like other cessories. Do you want a
Speaker 4: fancy water bottle, Do you want to fancy running watch
Speaker 4: or are you going to use like the running app
Speaker 4: on your phone? Do you want to run races? Do
Speaker 4: you want to travel to races? And like those are
Speaker 4: like things that you can't necessarily plan for right off rip.
Speaker 4: If you stay in California, you want to run New
Speaker 4: York City Marathon, and say you got in via the lottery,
Speaker 4: the ticket might be just for the race, might be
Speaker 4: like two hundred and fifty bucks, but then you got
Speaker 4: to buy a plane ticket and hotel and things of
Speaker 4: that sort. So it really just depends on like how
Speaker 4: deep you want to go into this thing. Yeah, pretty much,
Speaker 4: that's how deep you want to go into this thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Is there ever a journey that people take where
Speaker 3: they just run and they don't pay to run in parades?
Speaker 3: Is that a thing or is that just inevitable for everybody,
Speaker 3: They're all gonna end up. Uh huh.
Speaker 4: There's people who just run just for the heck of
Speaker 4: it and like not need that stuff, but like some
Speaker 4: people need that validation of I gotta race metal out
Speaker 4: of this and like start collecting race metals, and one
Speaker 4: of the things is a gateway direct to spend more money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, running is.
Speaker 4: An expensive sport, but it's also it has tons of
Speaker 4: big money in it, from like running gear to these
Speaker 4: races to charities. Like there's so much money in the
Speaker 4: sport of running, which is like a good thing, but
Speaker 4: it's also a bad thing because your pockets can definitely
Speaker 4: take a hurting on there. So are there people who
Speaker 4: run for the sake of running without like participating a race, Like, yes,
Speaker 4: but what I found for my own personal thing, I'm
Speaker 4: not running unless I'm training for something to get a
Speaker 4: shiny piece of metal at the end of this day.
Speaker 1: That's me same. I need the validation of the finish line.
Speaker 1: I need to like feel those tears well up behind
Speaker 1: my eyes when I cross the finish line near the
Speaker 1: back of the pack. So there's already confetti from the
Speaker 1: first people that came across. So I'm like looking at
Speaker 1: all the confetti and I need that. Yeah, I'm only
Speaker 1: running if I'm training. But I will agree like, you
Speaker 1: can start very inexpensively, And I think that's why we
Speaker 1: wanted to highlight running, because you don't need expensive dumbbells,
Speaker 1: you don't need a gym membership. There are so many
Speaker 1: things you don't need to get started, and that is
Speaker 1: the biggest hurdle for most people. It's the mental thing
Speaker 1: that's the biggest hurdle to jump through. It's not finances,
Speaker 1: and you can work up to buying stuff. But I
Speaker 1: would agree, like the shoes, getting fitted for shoes, my
Speaker 1: hips and my knees are not great. And whenever I
Speaker 1: go back for shoes, every time, I need like more
Speaker 1: padding in my shoes. And I said that to the
Speaker 1: guy that owns a store, and he's like, yep, yep,
Speaker 1: you get older every year. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, please stop. Nobody asked you. I mean I did,
Speaker 1: but like, nobody asked you. But yeah, and I'll spend
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars on a brand new pair
Speaker 1: of running shoes. That's the most expensive shoes I own.
Speaker 3: But in the great things. If that's the cost, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's your shoes. You can choose as you value it
Speaker 3: and understand yourself what more you're going to be spending on.
Speaker 3: But overall, it sounds to me like a relatively inexpensive
Speaker 3: sport because every other sport generally is going to include
Speaker 3: running on top of all the other gear and equipment,
Speaker 3: except for golf. Is that a sport? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Don't come out as golf people.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe you're running. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 3: you can't afford the golf cart and you're running.
Speaker 4: But otherwise, but that's the thing Jill, is that initially
Speaker 4: it can be inexpensive, but it does rack up because
Speaker 4: like if you get into the hype of all the
Speaker 4: other things that goes along with running. So it's like,
Speaker 4: do you get into this thing and do you got
Speaker 4: running friends? And it's like, oh, that's a nice watch.
Speaker 4: Tell me about your running watch. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 4: you got like a six hundred, seven hundred dollars running
Speaker 4: watse and it's like, gosh, like what are you doing?
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, what races are you running?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: I want to be a fifty state or too. Next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, you're traveling around the United States trying to
Speaker 4: be fifty staters, and then it's like, oh, what shoes,
Speaker 4: the super shoes. Yes, I'll pay three hundred dollars for
Speaker 4: super shoes. They got carbon plate in, and like, it's
Speaker 4: definitely one of those things where initially it can be inexpensive,
Speaker 4: but like if you fall for like all the other
Speaker 4: hype stuff, you'll get looped in and be paying ninety
Speaker 4: thousands of dollars.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why there's so much money in running.
Speaker 1: It's it's such an easy sport to get hyped up
Speaker 1: on and to get so much stuff in. But like
Speaker 1: you just have to like pick and shoes what you're
Speaker 1: going to spend money on. For the longest time, all
Speaker 1: of my running clothes were just old T shirts and
Speaker 1: stretchy capris. But I would spend money to run Disney races.
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to do. I want to spend
Speaker 1: a lot of money to run inside of a theme park.
Speaker 1: I don't even get to ride rides in that is
Speaker 1: what I want to do.
Speaker 4: And having to wake up at three am.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, earlier, earlier. God, you'd be late if you
Speaker 1: wake up at three.
Speaker 4: Am, two.
Speaker 1: Gradually, I've started to evolve in my wardrobe. But like
Speaker 1: you just pick and choose the other day and Travis
Speaker 1: does not. My husband, Travis doesn't know this, but he
Speaker 1: bought the carbon plated shoes. He did spend three hundred
Speaker 1: on his shoes, so like he can do that. I
Speaker 1: signed up for the ten mile race and I didn't
Speaker 1: tell him about it. I have time, I have time.
Speaker 4: Does he not listen to the pod?
Speaker 1: Because two of my friends said that they were doing it.
Speaker 1: Because I had a friend text me saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm doing the Disney ten miler in April. You should
Speaker 1: do it, and I'm like, mmm, maybe I was thinking
Speaker 1: about it. And then literally later that day my other
Speaker 1: friend said, oh, yeah, we're doing the Disney ten miler.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, there's my sign. That's the
Speaker 1: sign that I needed. It's confirmation. But you work up
Speaker 1: to that. And I think the biggest cost is the
Speaker 1: mental barrier to get started.
Speaker 4: I'm shaking my head for the audio experience people, I'm
Speaker 4: shaking my head, yes, because you may not see me
Speaker 4: vividly shaking my head, but yes, that is the greatest
Speaker 4: cost is the mindset that comes along with the sport
Speaker 4: and like all the ups and downs that that comes
Speaker 4: in it, the sweat equity that comes along with running,
Speaker 4: that costs you more because if you're not like mentally
Speaker 4: sound or ready for it, like your mind can play
Speaker 4: the greatest tricks on you and having you just feel
Speaker 4: less than less than a runner while participating in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. So for people trying to get over
Speaker 1: that mental barrier who think that they want to get started,
Speaker 1: but are like like you and me and like definitely
Speaker 1: are not don't feel like athletic people, don't feel like runners,
Speaker 1: definitely hated the mile run in school and couldn't do
Speaker 1: cross country to save my life sort of thing. How
Speaker 1: does somebody like that get started? Like, what are the
Speaker 1: action some of the action steps?
Speaker 4: So for my fugal frugal ference, you go get a
Speaker 4: library car and you go request my book from a library.
Speaker 1: Okay, man, that's what I like to hear.
Speaker 3: I support that.
Speaker 1: So plug a little plug or just buy it.
Speaker 4: Just buy it, like yeah, whether they're frugal, they're going.
Speaker 3: To and we make the library buy.
Speaker 4: It, yes, yeah, make your tax dollars work. What I
Speaker 4: would say is that, like the funniest thing is that
Speaker 4: in my chapter. I have a chapter called You Versus
Speaker 4: your Mind Versus Everybody, And this literally what running is
Speaker 4: is you, your thoughts and feelings about running, how do
Speaker 4: you get off the couch, the thoughts and feelings about yourself,
Speaker 4: how you're feeling about yourself, your mind, your mindset, so
Speaker 4: all of the things that's going on in your head.
Speaker 4: It's like the voices, it's like, you can't do this,
Speaker 4: go sit back down, whatever whatever. And then you got
Speaker 4: everybody else. These are the people who may be looking
Speaker 4: at you, or you think they looking at you, or
Speaker 4: people who say snyp remarks like good for you. Hey,
Speaker 4: when people are like good for you, Oh you're you
Speaker 4: ran seven now you're good for you. So that is
Speaker 4: all a big battle. And one of the things that
Speaker 4: new people need to do is really start to break
Speaker 4: up those things. And you start with you, right, you,
Speaker 4: this is what you think about. It's this notion of like,
Speaker 4: not everything you feel is real, and not everything you
Speaker 4: think of yourself is true. So then really trying to
Speaker 4: think about like, oh, these are just thoughts that who
Speaker 4: are just coming through. How do I separate these thoughts
Speaker 4: that I know they're not true? And one of the
Speaker 4: things that I've done that has helped me is I've
Speaker 4: given my inner critic a persona. So my inner critic
Speaker 4: name is Otis. He has a raspy voice, he smokes
Speaker 4: peckses of cigarettes, and he says random things to me
Speaker 4: all day. And so whenever there is a limiting belief
Speaker 4: or or thought that's like I can't do this or
Speaker 4: you should do X, Y and Z, I have a
Speaker 4: conversation with Otis to say, like, this is not true.
Speaker 4: You're just saying the stuff, and I know I'm better
Speaker 4: to that. Right, So that's one thing, right, second thing
Speaker 4: is having delusional self belief. Right. The notion of all
Speaker 4: of the modern marvels stuff we think about. We are
Speaker 4: having a conversation and I'm talking to a screen and
Speaker 4: you see me and y'all talking to a screen, and
Speaker 4: I see y'all. Somebody had to make that up. Flying.
Speaker 4: Somebody made that up. Somebody was like, you know the
Speaker 4: birds fly, I want to fly with them as well.
Speaker 4: You can imagine somebody being like, sir or madam, what
Speaker 4: are you smoking? I would like some as well. You've
Speaker 4: had too much of milk of a poppy. But like
Speaker 4: somebody has followed that dream to make it work, and
Speaker 4: for you, you had to be so wedded to your
Speaker 4: dreams and your goals that sometimes your friends and family
Speaker 4: might think that you're out of your mind, but you
Speaker 4: believe in yourself so much and you do the work
Speaker 4: that you make it happen. That's the second thing. And
Speaker 4: then the third thing is like, sometimes you gotta just
Speaker 4: tell people to kick rocks and like just move on
Speaker 4: about your day, and that's okay as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, go kick rocks. I'm a runner.
Speaker 3: That's it. Thanks for taking us to therapy, truly, thank you.
Speaker 3: We got way more words just now that we can
Speaker 3: attach to our experiences. And Jenn and I have talked
Speaker 3: about this before for a lot of the overlap that
Speaker 3: happens between various types of exercise, certainly running included, and
Speaker 3: learning how to be good stewards of our money and
Speaker 3: some of the mental blocks and barriers that come and
Speaker 3: hearing you talk, I can see the correlation between all
Speaker 3: of these things. And as we would engage in something
Speaker 3: like what you're describing of pushing Otis's voice aside and
Speaker 3: moving forward and doing the dang thing is only also
Speaker 3: going to help us in our finances as we see
Speaker 3: ourselves capable of doing something that we didn't think we
Speaker 3: were capable of of recognizing. We are the experts on ourselves,
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean we're always one hundred percent accurate
Speaker 3: about as you said, how we see the world, how
Speaker 3: we see ourselves, and just what a beautiful endeavor for
Speaker 3: anybody to partake in because the benefits are going to
Speaker 3: be seen across our whole person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's encouraging because I'm so bad at weights and
Speaker 1: running and athletic stuff that every time I make an improvement,
Speaker 1: there's a big improvement because there's so much progress to
Speaker 1: be made. I mean, when things you're already good at,
Speaker 1: how much can you improve? Like just little bits? So
Speaker 1: it's encouraging for stuff outside of exercise. Maybe you're listening,
Speaker 1: you are good at exercise, find something you're bad at
Speaker 1: and try it, and if you enjoy it, stick with
Speaker 1: it because the satisfaction of getting better at it will
Speaker 1: seep into other things that you are trying to improve.
Speaker 3: Martinez, any final tips that you have for us for
Speaker 3: our listeners, just on what to expect from ourselves when
Speaker 3: we're getting started, or if we are concerned about injury,
Speaker 3: how to just I mean, we can get started today
Speaker 3: with whatever ratty sneakers, But then like, what should we
Speaker 3: do to make sure that we're not irreparably hurting ourselves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that is a great question. Most people get injured.
Speaker 4: Most new people get injured by what I call the
Speaker 4: terrible twos. They do something too much, too soon or
Speaker 4: too fast. They run too much, they run too fast
Speaker 4: too soon, or run longer too soon, or they do
Speaker 4: all both of it and they do it too fast.
Speaker 4: So it's really about understanding your body. Understanding it takes
Speaker 4: typically it takes your body at four to six weeks
Speaker 4: to get used to something new and after that to
Speaker 4: slowly start to increase. So I would say for your
Speaker 4: listeners out there, don't fall for the terrible twos, because
Speaker 4: that is the first step to getting injured. The second
Speaker 4: thing is that sometimes it's the things that you do
Speaker 4: outside of the sport or running that makes you better
Speaker 4: at running. So while yes, you may not go to
Speaker 4: the gym, but cross training, some form of cross training,
Speaker 4: whether that's doing body weight at home or if you
Speaker 4: have some dumbbells, so on and so forth, doing some
Speaker 4: cross training also helps out because you're strengthening the muscles.
Speaker 4: That helps become accessories to runny so that you can
Speaker 4: stay healthy and not hurt yourself.
Speaker 3: That's so helpful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just figured that out this year, and I
Speaker 1: just started cross training to train for this race. And
Speaker 1: it's mostly due to the fact that I'm only six
Speaker 1: months postpartum, so I lost a lot of muscle mass.
Speaker 1: But I am realizing now that in my long runs
Speaker 1: I would have pain, like in muscles that I didn't
Speaker 1: know existed. And now that I'm like training small muscle groups,
Speaker 1: which is something I've never said before, I have less
Speaker 1: pain after.
Speaker 4: Yes, the necessory, your muscles are a big thing. They're
Speaker 4: small but a thing.
Speaker 1: Right, And you don't want to train small muscles because
Speaker 1: you don't see the results. But if you're I mean,
Speaker 1: this is definitely different than training for weight loss. And
Speaker 1: you also have to push down the urge to like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to go fast. I should be able to
Speaker 1: go this speed. And then when I'm supposed to do
Speaker 1: an easy run, I rarely ever do it quote unquote
Speaker 1: easy because I'm always trying to go all out. I'm
Speaker 1: always trying to like break a pr and it is
Speaker 1: a mind thing. It's a mind training sport as much
Speaker 1: as it is physically it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy speaking of small things being big things and it
Speaker 3: being too much, too soon, too fast, But it's fine.
Speaker 5: Always the bill of the week, that's right, it's time
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Speaker 2: Maybe a baby was born and his name is William.
Speaker 5: Maybe you've paid off your mortgage, maybe your car died
Speaker 5: and you're happy to not have to pay that bill anymore.
Speaker 2: Built flow bills, Bill Clinton, this is the bill of
Speaker 2: the week.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh man, you're right at home. You can part
Speaker 1: of the show where we stay Martinez. Every week we
Speaker 1: invite our listeners or our guests to share with us
Speaker 1: a bill that has impacted them this week, whether it
Speaker 1: is a actual lowercase bill or an uppercase bill, and
Speaker 1: we would love to hear yours today.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I would say, the bill that has has
Speaker 4: really affected me this week or has made an impact
Speaker 4: is that I received the bill for merch samples for
Speaker 4: the next line for the Slowya Front Club merch line.
Speaker 4: So received the bill for that, and that that made
Speaker 4: me pretty exciting. It made me pretty exciting.
Speaker 1: And your shirts are so.
Speaker 4: Cool, thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh they are very cool. And because I love turtles,
Speaker 1: so maybe a little bias. But that's awesome.
Speaker 4: So that is the bill that has affected me the
Speaker 4: most this week.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's so exciting. We love the bills that we
Speaker 3: don't mind spending on next to people being Bill, those
Speaker 3: are our favorite bills. That's my favorite. Yes, for an
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Speaker 3: So if that's you, if you're listening and you want
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Speaker 2: Peo pew.
Speaker 1: All right, I don't know.
Speaker 4: If you hear my air horn. I got actually air horn.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I we have your first guest that brings
Speaker 1: their own sound effects.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because we've never ever actually had our
Speaker 3: own sound effects. It's always just like whatever we on
Speaker 3: our microphone, you're you're elevating us.
Speaker 1: You're bringing we do that our own sound effects and
Speaker 1: you're bringing your own Oh okay, So this is our
Speaker 1: vulnerability round, and in it we will say what is
Speaker 1: the longest distance you've ever run? And what's your next
Speaker 1: running goal or goal? For Jill Martinez, you can go
Speaker 1: first because you're going to show us all up and
Speaker 1: as longest this.
Speaker 4: As I ever ran was on Marathon, I ran a them.
Speaker 4: The next race I'm doing, I'm doing Chicago five k
Speaker 4: in two weeks.
Speaker 3: Wow, I love a five k. You feel ready?
Speaker 1: You feel ready for that five k? Have you trained
Speaker 1: for it?
Speaker 4: Pretty nervous about that five k?
Speaker 1: Wow? I have a book you should read if you
Speaker 1: need help training. Okay, yeah, Jill, how about.
Speaker 3: You somewhere in the ballpark of three to five miles.
Speaker 3: Spoiler alert, I'm not a runner. I'm not so certain
Speaker 3: you could ever convince me. I am run curious. I
Speaker 3: admire all of you who do it. I've got my
Speaker 3: own version of exercise that I enjoy. So I've been
Speaker 3: forced to run in the past at school and college.
Speaker 3: Somehow that was a part of our credits. Yep, because
Speaker 3: you forced me to go and there was free beer afterwards.
Speaker 3: It wasn't my balance that was a motivator for me.
Speaker 3: I did go at the run club. She went several
Speaker 3: beer in Saint Pete. Yeah, gave free beer afterwards. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that kept me going for a couple of mondays through
Speaker 3: COVID and it just wasn't for me. And then I
Speaker 3: also recognize that I don't want to flip a switch
Speaker 3: because I don't want to lose my toenails and I
Speaker 3: don't want to pee myself and be fine with it,
Speaker 3: like I just don't.
Speaker 1: But I've never lost a toenail myself, so I know
Speaker 1: she's getting this. Ye, we just said that neither of
Speaker 1: us have lost your toe or peede themselves.
Speaker 3: That's making that's wild. I didn't know it was possible.
Speaker 3: I thought, like, if you are a runner, you've got
Speaker 3: to just get used to it, no more or toenails.
Speaker 1: Also, this is the that's the reason we're doing this episode.
Speaker 4: We need to change your external folkio running you because
Speaker 4: we got to change that.
Speaker 3: That's a barrier, Like that's a pretty big barrier.
Speaker 1: That would be a huge barrier. If I thought I
Speaker 1: was going to pee myself, I don't know. I would
Speaker 1: have started running the thing I can see that would
Speaker 1: be a huge barrier.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing is is I want to have a
Speaker 3: certain level of stamina for running because I see benefit,
Speaker 3: Like if I'm ever being chased, I want to be
Speaker 3: able to have some degree of stamina. And that's about
Speaker 3: the motivator for me. But yeah, somewhere between three and
Speaker 3: five miles right now. I do more hit exercises so
Speaker 3: I get my heart pumping while remaining stationary. And that's
Speaker 3: what I do. Not encouraging it for everybody else. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you're a runner, great admiration. But this is my
Speaker 3: vulnerability for you, Jen good pails, you care tell me
Speaker 3: that there's not other people who have said that that's
Speaker 3: their barrier to running.
Speaker 4: Yes, but like that, not everyone loses their toenails or
Speaker 4: pee themselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's just the extreme ones. You're right, that's
Speaker 3: the extreme version. Even if you're doing a race that
Speaker 3: I won't be able to hold the radical middle on this.
Speaker 1: There are bathrooms on courses, yea sporta patties. You don't
Speaker 1: have to pee yourself if you don't want to.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Oh, you may not have toilet paper in some of
Speaker 4: these races, but at least you can go pee.
Speaker 3: But like, runners can get so into running that they
Speaker 3: know that they're peeing themselves and they don't care. And
Speaker 3: knowing that that's a possible human experience for me makes
Speaker 3: me be like, I don't even know if I don't
Speaker 3: know who you're talking to, but like it, I could
Speaker 3: become the person who's just like, who cares?
Speaker 1: I don't person, Jill, you.
Speaker 3: Don't want to be my pr.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, we're gonna move on from that one. For me,
Speaker 1: a half marathon is the longest distance I've ever done,
Speaker 1: and I have done I don't know five maybe ish,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. And I'm doing one in November, the
Speaker 1: Wine and Dine.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yep, are you going to be there?
Speaker 4: No, that's the only Disney race I've ever ran.
Speaker 1: It's the best one. This will be my third or
Speaker 1: fourth time doing it. I'm so bad with counting. I
Speaker 1: should have come into this episode prepared. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that race and we'll be doing it. Roped my
Speaker 1: husband into signing up. He has not started training, but
Speaker 1: I have been running. I did an eight mile long
Speaker 1: run last week and I do not go up to
Speaker 1: thirteen before the race. I think I will be lucky
Speaker 1: to hit eleven. I don't know if I could do
Speaker 1: a marathon. I don't know if I'm a marathon It's
Speaker 1: not like I don't know if I have the capacity
Speaker 1: to train for a marathon. It's a lot of training,
Speaker 1: it is, and I got kids that they're needy. They're
Speaker 1: just needy, and some parents can do it. But I'm
Speaker 1: not that fast. It takes me a long time to run.
Speaker 1: I'm out there for a long time as it is,
Speaker 1: and I need my energy for other things right now.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I'll ever run a marathon.
Speaker 1: But a half marathon is a good distance for me.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 4: I half marathon is my favorite distance because you can
Speaker 4: train for it and still have a life.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, agree.
Speaker 4: You have the least appealing yourself.
Speaker 1: I would agree. I have never peid myself to this day.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad to know this. I really thought that
Speaker 3: all of you'd be.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I was glad. We have been business partners
Speaker 1: for like almost six years, and you have spent our
Speaker 1: entire relationship thinking I have peed myself.
Speaker 3: I think you enjoyed yourself. It just might not have been.
Speaker 3: It might have been for different reasons.
Speaker 1: I have paid, I have peed myself never while running. Okay, Martinez,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today and helping
Speaker 1: us like really have some breakthroughs individually and relationally. Yes,
Speaker 1: where can people find your book? More from you?
Speaker 3: Just you?
Speaker 1: In general? Where can people get more?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So you can find a book wherever books are,
Speaker 4: so Amazon, Barnes and Noble, your local independent bookseller, it
Speaker 4: should be there. If you want an autograph copy, I
Speaker 4: do sell them on my website. So you can go
Speaker 4: to slow afrunt club dot com and you'll be able
Speaker 4: to find we can get an autograph copy there. It's
Speaker 4: pretty much everything. Slow Your Front Club. So like, we
Speaker 4: have an app, a free app for all my frugal friends.
Speaker 4: So if you're looking for a community of runners who
Speaker 4: are not pan on them sales while running, you can
Speaker 4: download the app. You can download the app on your
Speaker 4: favorite app store, so Apple iOS, you can search for
Speaker 4: slowya Front Club and we have about twenty five thousand
Speaker 4: members world wide. There. I'm on all the interwebs, Instagram, Facebook,
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Speaker 4: three hundred pounds in running or a Slower Front Club.
Speaker 3: Amazing. This has been so fun. Thank you for removing
Speaker 3: and demystifying running for me.
Speaker 1: At least you're a nation.
Speaker 3: So talking with you, Martina.
Speaker 1: Frugal Friends is produced by Eric Sirianni.
Speaker 3: Beautyful, What what a gem?
Speaker 1: I am still shook that you believe that I willingly
Speaker 1: would pee myself on a run in a race in
Speaker 1: front of so many people.
Speaker 3: I thought that it was a part of becoming a runner,
Speaker 3: not that you start there, but but that you get
Speaker 3: there at some point, because everybody says you kind of
Speaker 3: do start to pay to run, You start to pay
Speaker 3: to take part in these races, even if you didn't
Speaker 3: intend that. So I'm thinking, and then there's the point
Speaker 3: where you didn't intend to lose your toenails, but it's happening.
Speaker 3: You didn't intend to pee yourself, but here we are
Speaker 3: because the.
Speaker 1: Huge work between paying for race and not expecting that
Speaker 1: that would be you.
Speaker 3: Okay too, Okay as a timeline and a spectrum, you
Speaker 3: just tell me when you do get there. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be waiting at home after that wine and dine run,
Speaker 3: I'll be waiting for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: Had to fin I wanted to beat my pr.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been running for almost fifteen years and I've
Speaker 1: never won.
Speaker 3: That is good to know. I feel like everyone that
Speaker 3: I've talked to who has done a half marathon or
Speaker 3: more has lost toenails. So I don't know what they're
Speaker 3: doing wrong. If they're taking if they don't have the
Speaker 3: right shoes, do they not spend enough money on shoes?
Speaker 1: Shoes and socks are super important. I will get blisters.
Speaker 1: Blisters are common, but yeah, no, I mean I actually
Speaker 1: have heard the toenail thing on marathon runners, but that
Speaker 1: is far different from choosing to urinate yourself. Anyways, thanks
Speaker 1: for listening everyone.
Speaker 3: If you have a hot take on what your barriers
Speaker 3: are to running, well yeah, well, I mean let us
Speaker 3: know to listen to us in an email, set the
Speaker 3: friend letter, and then respond to us in the friend
Speaker 3: letter because it comments coming right back to our boss Instagram.
Speaker 1: Please, that's the way that Jill will see it fastest.
Speaker 3: Another way that people are giving their feedback on our
Speaker 3: episodes is through kind reviews. We'll get stories from people
Speaker 3: just commenting while also leaving a five star review. So
Speaker 3: that's an option. And we're going to highlight one today
Speaker 3: which comes from a non they didn't want us to
Speaker 3: know who they were or their name is a non
Speaker 3: that'd be rich titled my favorite podcast. I love this
Speaker 3: podcast and look forward to hearing a new episode each week.
Speaker 3: I began my Debt Free Journey a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: and this podcast quickly became my top choice for finance podcasts.
Speaker 3: I love listening to Jen and Jill read advice from
Speaker 3: topical articles and talk about their own experiences. I also
Speaker 3: am motivated by listening to their guests amazing debt free journeys.
Speaker 3: Jen and Jill are fun and relatable and cover a
Speaker 3: variety of topics that make you feel like you can
Speaker 3: take control of your finances beautiful.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Anon, and I know we haven't
Speaker 1: done many debt free stories on the podcast this year,
Speaker 1: but that's because we did a video series over on
Speaker 1: YouTube called Debt Free Stories where we shared ten of
Speaker 1: them from listeners just like you, who have paid off
Speaker 1: debt in a variety of ways, backgrounds, settings. So definitely,
Speaker 1: if you love the debt Free Journeys, head to Frugal
Speaker 1: Friends on YouTube and just queue all of them up.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much, Anon.
Speaker 3: Yep, see you next time. Jen speaking of the friend
Speaker 3: letter and speaking of sports. So one of the most
Speaker 3: recent friend letters that I wrote had to do with curiosity,
Speaker 3: which y'all will hear more on that through our podcast,
Speaker 3: through our friend letter, through the book that we're writing.
Speaker 3: But then it got me thinking about, ooh, what podcasts
Speaker 3: are out there about curiosity? And I did find one
Speaker 3: and I listened to an episode because it was short.
Speaker 3: Love those. I know it's not the method we follow,
Speaker 3: but when I personally listen to oncast, I do love
Speaker 3: the fifteen minute Little quick Boy.
Speaker 1: But you read children's books, you love fifteen minute pacast.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I love a good quickie. And this one
Speaker 3: that I listened to was about blinking and what that
Speaker 3: means specifically for race car drivers. But they've been studying
Speaker 3: it for I think athletes in general, but specifically it
Speaker 3: means the most for race car drivers because they drive
Speaker 3: so fast, something like two hundred fifteen miles per hour.
Speaker 3: A blink means that they have their eyes like, So
Speaker 3: if you're two hundred and fifteen miles per hour and
Speaker 3: a blink takes about a second, they could travel like
Speaker 3: sixty feet with their eyes closed. And so the importance
Speaker 3: of I don't know just how important that is. Like
Speaker 3: then their eyes are closed, And then they were saying
Speaker 3: that they studied it more and realized that we automatically
Speaker 3: blink at more opportune times. So they studied when race
Speaker 3: car drivers are choosing to blink, and it's not even
Speaker 3: this thought necessarily, it's a subconscious They're blinking at stretches
Speaker 3: of road where it's not as dangerous, so they're not
Speaker 3: blinking around turns, and they're finding similar with just people
Speaker 3: in general. We tend to blink at the pause of
Speaker 3: the person that we're listening to. We tend to blink
Speaker 3: at the end of a sentence that we're reading, Like subconsciously,
Speaker 3: we are blinking at the times that are going to
Speaker 3: be most advantageous to us. We don't even realize it.
Speaker 3: It was jaw dropping to me. Curiosity. Sometimes it doesn't
Speaker 3: nail the cat, sometimes it saves the human.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean it is fascinating. Yeah, we blink.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, glad. So now you can pay attention as
Speaker 3: you love that for you, beg you. I love it
Speaker 3: for our listeners who also love it, because this is
Speaker 3: the type of stuff you can expect from me at
Speaker 3: least general bring you something different. So there's there's a
Speaker 3: reason for everyone to come and say.
Speaker 1: My latest audiobook that I'm listening to right now is
Speaker 1: twenty hours long. Yeah, I know, I'll do it on
Speaker 1: one point two five speed.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's why our podcasts are an hour long.
Speaker 1: Jill would like them to be fifteen minutes. I would
Speaker 1: probably make them four hours, and so that is why
Speaker 1: they are an hour.
Speaker 3: Fun fact, I'm here for it.