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It's like 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: almost famous when they show up in New York and 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: it's all happen. Happening. The first couple of days here, 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: we actually have to do some work in terms of 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: procuring topics. Yes, but once we get into the week, 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, they're kind of spoon fed 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: to us. They are they are, things are happening, and 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: you're starting to see measurements. Last night we saw the 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: running and testing on the field and who looked good, 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: who didn't look good? Um? You know what, just watching 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks throw from Afar UM really impressed with with 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: the way the ball comes out of Malik Willis's hand. 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: He kind of surprised by that. He did the same 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: thing at the Senior Ball Froze last night. That were 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: just it's like shot out of a cannon. Um. I 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: love picking through the ball, well, I thought, ritter through 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: the ball. Well. Carson Strong not as much. Um. I 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: don't know if it was nerves, but he struggled on 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: some of his shorter rows is slants and things that 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: nature below throws. Um zappy I thought struggled a little 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: bit too. He's got that weird throwing. It's just like 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: a little Philip Rivers like, uh kind of has to 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: wind up the throw it. I I know, you know, 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: I know. Max Starks likes him. I'm not quite as enamored. Um, 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: he looks to me like a career backup type. He 43 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 1: may be in the league for ten years. Say good 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: for him, you know that, that's great. I just don't 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: know that he's a starting quality quarterback despite all the 46 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: yards and you know, like he kind of reminds me 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: of the guy you know, we when the when the 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: air raid stuff all started happening, you know, twenty years ago. Um, 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: you saw a lot of these guys come out. Yea, 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: he had he had seven thousands. Yeah, and it didn't 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: work out. And so everybody got it in their minds 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: because you run that offense because you don't have the 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: talent to keep up with the other team, Like you 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: can't beat him in the trenches, so you gotta beat 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: That's rich Rodriguez maybe came up with all that stuff, 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: and then that's why he kind of failed at Michigan. 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Like you run that because don't you're not getting the 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: top rated recruits. Correct. Now you're in Michigan four five 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: stars trying to you know, know you get the power 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: to beat these guys up front. Just just do that. Yeah, 61 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's so many times He's these coaches system. 62 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: We gotta run my system, and my system works. And 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: that's why you see so many college coaches come to 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: the NFL and fail and you've got better talent. You 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: don't do that stuff right, you know, you don't. You 66 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: don't have to. And I don't know if this is 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: the right word, but it doesn't have to be gimmicky. Yeah, 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: they they can have a good idea of what you're 69 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: doing and you can still have success the NFL. It's 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: more about the Jimmy's and Joe's exactly exactly, and neither 71 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: have them or you don't, you know, And I think too. 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, I hesitate to say this because you can't 73 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: say anything nice about Bill Belichick or that franchise up 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: in New England on this radio station without getting some 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: nasty tweets. But that's one of the things that I've 76 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: always admired about Bill Belichick is his identity has always 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: been attacking yours. Yeah, you know, like he doesn't say 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: we have to play a certain way. They've had years 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: where they've aired the ball out and through a hundred 80 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: touchdown passes to Randy Moss. They've had years where they 81 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: ground and pound and use the tight ends. They win 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, and that's what you've got 83 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: to be able to do. You can't be hard headed 84 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, you always have to assess as a coach, 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: and I do this. I still coach baseball, and you 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: know that's kind of stuff. And you always have to 87 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: look at your team strengths and weaknesses. Okay, what can 88 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: we do? All right, we're a home run hitting team. 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: We're gonnahookay, that's what we're gonna do. You're gonna have 90 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: we got we got great pitching in and you know defense, 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna play, you know, two to one games. Um, 92 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, if we've got speed, we're gonna run a lot. 93 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: Play a little small. I'm not gonna take a bunch 94 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: of a big, lumbering pound kids. That's steel base. Yeah, 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna because we steal bases. That's what we do. 96 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna do it. We're gonna get thrown 97 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: out eight seven percent of the time. People hear out, 98 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing? If you don't have 99 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: steph uh Curry and Clay humpson, you better not be 100 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: shooting fifty getting up threes again. So I mean, that's 101 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: that's all. That's coaching. It's not you know, the system 102 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: now you know that being said, you know you mentioned Belichick, 103 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: Well he does out and get guys who are the 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: Amiba's types for his system. That's what he does. Guys 105 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: who can do different things like that. So it is 106 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: it's still player based. Two years ago when he didn't 107 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: have the players, it wasn't pretty. It's not pretty. You know, Yes, 108 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: he could coach and maybe another win or two out 109 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: of that roster, got seven wins at that roster. But 110 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, if if he had a more funted roster, 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: you know, then he's you're nine and seven instead of 112 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: seven and ten and ten and six. Yeah, and that's 113 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: just the reality of the situation. The NFL is is 114 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: a talent driven league, which it always has been. You know, 115 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: you either have the guys that you don't. Bengals are 116 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: perfect example of this. You know that they they are 117 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 1: a good team. Two years ago, the dramatically change their roster. 118 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: They get the quarterback, they had the star wide receiver 119 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: to it, all of a sudden they're a good team. Yeah, shocking. 120 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: College football is going a lot in that direction to dale, 121 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: where if you're Cincinnati. You can have a great year, 122 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: but when you run into an Alabama or a joy 123 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Ja who's too deep everywhere, and you just everyone just 124 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: don't have the horses and the depth to run with them. 125 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: It's it feels like it's becoming a little more Jimmy's 126 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: and Joe's head that the Sabans and this. You know, 127 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: the guys are always gonna have their their leg up, 128 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: but it's it's so much about that that too deep 129 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: and and just being able to wear teams down absolutely absolutely, 130 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: and and so I know we we saw the wide 131 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: receivers get out and run last night and that was fun. 132 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Boy did they run? Uh So some of these numbers 133 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: have changed. Yeah, there's there's what they what they show 134 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: on TV, and then the official reason they look at 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: the you know, they have trackers on these guys and everything. Um, 136 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: I know we were talking about that last shoulders shoulders, Yeah, 137 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: but you still saw I mean I'm just looking here, 138 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: uh one two, four or five, six, seven, eight, eight 139 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: guys break four four another one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 140 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: ten ten other guys. So eighteen guys were under four 141 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: five at the wide receiver position. That's that's an huge 142 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: influx of speed, and this is something all of these 143 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: guys are the top names. I mean, Okay, Taekwon Thornton 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: from Baylor, I'm sure you're familiar with, uh four to 145 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: eight officially this year. Well, he runs a four to eight. 146 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: I would have you know that you're not gonna you'ren't 147 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: gonna act that run that consistently. Vellis Jones out of 148 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee at four three one. You know, he's a he's 149 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: an interesting guy because he's gonna turn twenty five. He's 150 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: one of those six years got six, got the red 151 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: shirt year, and then the COVID year. Yeah, so he's 152 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: gonna be twenty five before training camp opens this year, 153 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: I believe. So you're looking at him if you take 154 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: a guy like that, because he's more of day three 155 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: type prospect. But maybe he ran himself into day two, 156 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, late late day two consideration. Um, he's probably 157 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: gonna get one contactible. Right, So we know the Steelers 158 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: like those two contract guys, right, Uh. Calvin Austin at 159 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: a Memphis, the little jitter bug three two, very twitchy, 160 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: uh and came in a little a little heavier than 161 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: than I think people are bigger than people. I was 162 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: seeing things like, well, maybe he'll be five seven and 163 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty five pounds, and he actually came 164 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: in at five eight, one seven, so he's and still 165 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: at one seven. He was still able to run, you know, 166 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: in the low four threes. That's how I standing for him. 167 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: Thirty nine in vertical jump. Uh. You know, just guys 168 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: wide receivers now, like the wide receivers and the edge rushers. 169 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: I feel like these guys are just visiting from another 170 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: plan for college football is going. Yeah, if you look 171 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: at the Thornton UM, you know he's he's a guy 172 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: that has a dies that's why so sixe UM you 173 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: know had the the foight uh forty yard dash thirty 174 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: six and a half inch vertical. So there's some athletic 175 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: traits there that you look at them. I'm looking here 176 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: at lands here lines analysis of him on the NFL 177 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: dot com UM and his his compass Tae Kwon Underwood. Um, 178 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: you know he's this guy can fly. Um, he's gonna 179 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: give you a speed like in the old days, he 180 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: would have been here no matter what, and he still 181 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: might be because they need that speed element at some points. Yeah, 182 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: I mean he's a guy that could take the top 183 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: off of the defense. Uh. You know, it's like those 184 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be available throughout this process. Danny Gray 185 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: out of s m U is another one. He was 186 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: He was everybody's leader going into this thing about is 187 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: he is he going to be the guy who who 188 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: breaks the or leads us this group in in forty 189 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: yard dash time? Well, he was. He was a four 190 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: three three. He's more of a slot guy, but again 191 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: a foot hundred and eighty six pounds slot, so a 192 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: little bit bigger, but he's got shorter arms. Um. You know, 193 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: his compass to Marcus Robinson um by by zero and 194 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: so that's you know, that's that's a guy who's still playing, 195 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, from the league and doing doing some things. 196 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: This guy Bow Melton out of Rutgers is a guy 197 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: that caught my eye during the season. Um, it might 198 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: be a nice fit in the in the Canada. That 199 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: kid of the type offense. Uh ran the ball a 200 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: lot at Rutgers. They didn't have a great quarterback situations, 201 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: so they were just trying to find ways to get 202 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: the ball and move the ball. Yeah. Uh, um ran 203 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: a four three four vertical um again he has has 204 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: that ability to uh to run the ball um. There 205 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: was a gunner on their special teams units. I mean, 206 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: it's a guy you could probably get in day three 207 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: at some point and he's gonna make your roster and 208 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna be lightning in a bottle as a as 209 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: a he's a he's a souped up version of I 210 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: was just thinking if he if he's your Ray replacement, 211 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and more cost effective, probably depending on 212 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: where you get him. And that's it feels like that's 213 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: kind of becoming the move. The way with wide receivers 214 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: is draft them, develop them, and then maybe a lot 215 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: of times you have to make the hard decision to 216 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: let them walk whenever it's time to get the big money, 217 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: knowing that you'll get the comp pics, you can replace 218 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: these guys because there's there's just there's a handful of 219 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: cable wide receivers now coming out every single year. Christian 220 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Wallace out of or Watson out of North Dakota State. Yep. 221 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: It was a guy that showed up with the Senior 222 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: Bowl and you know, you look at him, he's got 223 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: to he's got the C six four two oh five 224 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: he's a he's a bigger dude, but he ran a 225 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: four three six. She I mean, just a big fast 226 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: when I saw when I saw him, I thought Martavis Bryant, 227 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, Um, he's got that same similar bodybuild and 228 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: can fly, just run past, defend, has the height as 229 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: well too, you know. And then you had two of 230 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: the top guys. None of those guys there are considered 231 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: first round type guys or even maybe even second round 232 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: type guys. But these next two guys are Garrett Wilson 233 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: and State and they ran four three eight and four 234 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: three nine. How do you you know first rounders? They're 235 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: both first rounders. They both played at Ohio State. Like, 236 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: you know, how are you defending that? Uh that? It's 237 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: no wonder they were scoring fty points a game. I 238 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: just get the ball in these guys hands and let 239 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 1: him beat there. Just go go get it. And with 240 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: a really good quarterback there in Columbus as well too, 241 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: uh Sky and were We talked about him a lot 242 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: this week. People thought, well, we ran a four or 243 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: for one officially, that's plenty fast enough. Yet he he 244 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: has earned himself a couple of couple of m's on 245 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: that paycheck. I think Dale. He he feels like a 246 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: second round guy for sure. Yeah, and and did well 247 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: in the all the ancillary stuff you know. Um, so 248 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: you know he's I think he I think he really 249 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: helped himself here and well maybe helped him out of 250 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: the steel out of the Steelers range. Yeah, I know, 251 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: you know we needed we need Mike Tomlin and the 252 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: Tomlin family to leak some of those Uh well, you 253 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: know when he came out with our house for spaghetti 254 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: dinner in high school football, he was really rude. He 255 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: wasn't he wasn't a joh no character issues with that guy. Yeah. 256 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: John Dotson, Penn State ran He's another intriguing one, another 257 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: potential first round guy, another guy that I like, maybe 258 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: a second Boisey State ran a. He's he's another one 259 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: of these six one type receivers that that can run 260 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: on the outside. I mean, just so many guys. George 261 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: Pickens out of Georgia ran fast. I think everybody looked 262 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: at George Pickens. Well he's just kind of a because 263 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: that's how they used him at Georgia and he read 264 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: a four four seven. Yeah, that's plenty fast enough you 265 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: know to to run. Buy some guys to get all 266 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: the outside one. Delle Robinson from from Kentucky's another one 267 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: of those slight guys that um, you know ran well, Uh, 268 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: I don't really they're getting getting He's just getting five 269 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: eight one seventy eight, So he's a little more thick, uh, 270 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: you know at that size. But again at four or 271 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: four fourty, Um, you know is is a jitterbug type. 272 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: You know, these are guys that you know, you look 273 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: at and you can find ways to get the ball 274 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: in their hands. And then the last couple of guys 275 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: under the four four under the four or five range 276 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: where Braylan Sanders out of Mississippi, who just I think 277 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: he caught like a hundred and five passes last year. Uh, 278 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: very productive productive with in that offense with Lane Kiffin, 279 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: with Matt Coral and then Jalen Tilbert out of out 280 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: of South Alabama who was actually at his home field 281 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, so everything was was very you know, 282 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: he was very familiar with everything down there. And you're 283 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: looking at a Day two guy probably there maybe early 284 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: second round four four ninety vertical, well put together, wide receiver, uh, 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: and you know it looks like a guy his his 286 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: comp here by zero line is Marvin Jones. So you know, 287 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: a guy who has some decent size and speed and 288 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: uh has has been a you know, around the NFL 289 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: a long, long, long time. I think this should be 290 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: encouraging for Steelers fans that are listening right now, dyl 291 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: or if you're catching this in the SNR loop later 292 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: on or in podcast formever, we know the Steelers have 293 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: a lot of different areas that need addressed, and again, 294 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver, when you've only got two on the roster, 295 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: that's obviously one of them. What you need are some 296 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: position groups that are are deep enough that you don't 297 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: have to worry about them at the top of the draft, 298 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: but that you're still going to be comfortable guys who 299 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: could come in and have an impact and produce. This 300 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: feels like a really good receiver group for that that 301 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to find a guy later who's 302 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: gonna be an impact because there's there's good depth, there's 303 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: great Yeah. I know that there's necessarily the quote unquote star. Yeah, 304 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: there's not that guy. Um, But you know, once you 305 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: start to get into the middle of that first round, 306 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: which of course where the Steelers are, that's when those 307 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna start. Hey, and that's waking off 308 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: the board here. Justin Jefferson was drafted a couple of 309 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: years ago. You you can get very talented people in 310 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: that area. Absolutely, and that's I think that's why. You know, 311 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: you see the Steelers talking to some of these guys 312 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: that uh, you know they had they had them with 313 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: Johan Dotson, Like, okay, if we're sitting there at twenty 314 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: and there's they're still there, these guys are potential. You know, 315 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm all for Matt and I've talked about this now 316 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: for a couple of months. Wide need because you've only 317 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: got two and Bengals did yuh passing league. It is 318 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: a passing league, and so you know I would be 319 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: all for them potentially. Hey, if that's the pick, that's 320 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: the pick. I'm with you on that. And I think 321 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: that there's a a better possibility than most would think 322 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: and wide receiver when you start getting going out to 323 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: get them in in free agency, people talk about, I 324 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: think you should sign Allen Robinson. How much money he's 325 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: gonna cost twenty million dollars a year at least teen 326 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: to twenty. Yeah, you know, people are going crazy. They 327 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: can't they can't give his report out there that he 328 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: wants fifteen million dollars million. That's the going rate for 329 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: a guy who's coming off a Pro Bowl season. That's it. 330 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: That's the going rate for a wide receiver. Get more 331 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: than fifteen on the open market. I bet you yeah, 332 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: or at least he'd be able to get that pretty 333 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: easily on the open But the one thing that drives 334 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: that down, which is I think what Juju Smith Schuster 335 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: found out last year, is the idea that teams are 336 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: now looking at these like the last three or four years, 337 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: the wide coming in. Everybody's saying, do we want to 338 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: pay for this or do we want to just draft 339 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: one of these guys, let him walk, get the comp 340 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: pick draft another on another one more next four years. 341 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, I think that's really it's it's alre Like 342 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: you said, it's already started to happen. Give it another two, 343 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: three or four years. I think that's really what we're 344 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna start to see with wide receivers. Yeah, I agree, 345 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: And it is a position where these guys can play 346 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: well into even that second and third contract. Um, you 347 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: know we've seen that. But man, it's expensive to live 348 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: in that neighborhood. Absolutely wide receiver is one of those 349 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: positions that you know free agency. It's a it's a 350 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: tough place to find him because you're you're gonna be 351 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: paying a pretty penny, pretty penny. He is Wesley Ueler. 352 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm Dale lally Are. Combined coverage is presented by First 353 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: National Bank. Let's get started, member f D I C. 354 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. 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Al has been here at the combine. 374 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: Uh several years now, right, Yeah, I think my first 375 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: year was seventeen, I think. Okay, yeah, so I know, 376 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: and you also stay up a lot on the on 377 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: the pit guys, and of course everybody watching what happened 378 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: with the Pickett yesterday with the hand size and then 379 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 1: I thought he had a good workout. He thought he 380 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: looked like the best of the quarterbacks in the workout 381 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: to me, And that wasn't really that surprising to me, 382 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 1: but I thought it looked really good. Yeah. Did you 383 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: listen in on much of the defensive line talk this morning? 384 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: Who who stood out in that? I wasn't you know, 385 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't around. I wasn't like moving in and out 386 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: a lot. But I thought, you know, the fact that 387 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: they're going to meet with Jordan Davis with a formal interview, 388 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: is because he's a you know, they've talked about that 389 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: position in the house. They think it's a two down position, 390 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: and that kind of minimizes it. To me, that's a 391 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: guy that if you're gonna take him, it's gonna be 392 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: a first round pick. So the fact that they're even 393 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: kind of considering that as a serious option says something 394 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: to me that they think nose tackle, d tackle, whatever 395 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: is a significant need is something they need to look into. 396 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: Anyway defense would suggested it was, Yeah, and there's uncertainty there. 397 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, when nobody knows what's happening with Steffon too it. 398 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: Tyson lul Lewis is coming back, but he's getting up there. 399 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: Kim Heyward is not the young either. They have some 400 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: nice depth on the defensive line, but I don't think 401 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: they have someone that they view as some kind of 402 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: like future. And that is a position where Kim Hayward 403 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: didn't come in Heyward in year one. You have. That's 404 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: the way they used to do it, and when John 405 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: Mitchell was they would they would groom guys and it 406 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: took you know, a year or two. Aaron Smith and 407 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: Brett and these guys took time because Mitch wasn't going 408 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: to play them if they didn't, you know, do things away. 409 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: Mitch wanted them to do it. But I think that's 410 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: a position where you need to draft a year ahead 411 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: of your needs. You can't say, oh, we need a 412 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: starting no tackle defense event right now on trust them 413 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: right now and expect that to work really well. So 414 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: I do think that is a future need for them 415 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: for sure. And they're talking to a nocle, they must 416 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: think it's a big one. There's been a lot of 417 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, d line down year for the class. 418 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: You agree with that is it does it feel like 419 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: a you know, if if you're gonna go intier the 420 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: defensive line here, that it has to be first round 421 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: and there's not much value elsewhere or is that just 422 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: more so you know, some storylines that we drum. I 423 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: wasn't super impressed with with what I saw at the 424 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: Senior ball from from the interior guys there. So I 425 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: mean there's some underclassman here that might be a little 426 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: bit more interesting, But yeah, I kind of agree. I 427 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: don't think there's a ton of guys, especially compared to 428 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: some to the edge guys to the the linebackers, to 429 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: the corners and the receivers. Oh, I mean what we 430 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: saw last night, But I thought even before they all 431 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: ran that this is a really really deep receiver class. 432 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: So compared to some of their other places they have needs. Yeah, 433 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: I think the line is is a place where earlier 434 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: is probably better. Yeah. I the one guy who caught 435 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: my eye at the junior boat was Travis Jones out 436 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: of Yukon. I think he's kind of that second round 437 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: type guy. You know, Jordan Davis is the first round 438 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: nose tack. There's a definitely pecking order at that nose 439 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: tackle position just depends on again, as you mentioned, the value, 440 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: do you value that guy as a as a too 441 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: or is he is he a two down guy or 442 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: can he be that three down guy that you know 443 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: gives you a little something in the past rush. The 444 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: other guy that I think is interesting there is Perryn 445 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: Winfree from Oklahoma and it's you know, the question is 446 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: he's a three down player? Can he be a nose 447 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: tackle in the NFL? Is the question the other direction? 448 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: But also probably a day to kind of guy that 449 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: that could fit in that that option as well. Alexander's 450 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Sports Now with us here on Radio Row. You 451 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the wide receiver group. You know, Dale and I 452 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: were having a conversation earlier. It feels like every year 453 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: there there's there's such a great crop of these guys 454 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: and and yeah, obviously the first rounders you know from 455 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: the Jamaar Chases and the Justin Jefferson's, but a lot 456 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: of value on day two and even in the day 457 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: three you look at it from the scope of the Steelers. 458 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: Only two guys under contract right now? Is that kind 459 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 1: of the the future wave. It feels like draft the receiver. 460 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: They can come in right away, you get him cost 461 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: effective for four years, then you let him walk, you 462 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: get the comp pick, and you kind of wash rents, 463 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: repeat that process. Well, I think it has to be 464 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: when you're paying a lot of money for your quarterback. 465 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you can pay a big quarterback salary 466 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: and then also justify big wide receiver salaries at the 467 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: same time. I think that's why the Steelers have kind 468 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: of done what they've done. They've really had one wide 469 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: receiver where they kind of said, Okay, we're gonna pay 470 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: the tie and everybody else has to be the rotating door. 471 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: But that's gonna change for them going forward. You know, 472 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: they don't have that big quarterback salary, so maybe they 473 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: will change that. I don't know, but I think it's 474 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: really hard to say if you're going to justify spending 475 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: million dollars on the quarterback that you also then have 476 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: to have a couple of ten million dollar wide receivers 477 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: to go with them. Don't think that makes sense. And 478 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers have been so good at finding receivers in 479 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: the draft that it really doesn't make sense for them. 480 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: You know, know what you're good at. They're they're one 481 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: of the best wide receiver scouting teams in the NFL 482 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: that They've had a lot of draft success, So yeah, 483 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: why not keep going back to that path if it's 484 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: working for you, Yes, it's it's certainly something that you know, 485 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: is an interesting dynamic. They they haven't gotten themselves into 486 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: situation though where they've just got two under contract. You know, 487 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: they had always for the last decade, it seems like 488 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: they drafted one every year and had somebody in a 489 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: pipeline again a year ahead of time. This year, they 490 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: didn't do their This past season, they didn't do that. 491 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: They had other needs that they had to address, brought 492 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: back Juju Smith Schuster. Um, you know, but you look 493 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: at it, You've got Juju Smith Schuster unrestricted free agent, 494 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: James Washington unrestricted free agent. Both those guys were second 495 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: round of picks, you know. And then you look at 496 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: a Rayrad McLeod as a as a you know, a 497 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: guy who's headed to unrestricted free agency as well. Um, 498 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, see you're left with Chase Clay Pante Johnson again, 499 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: that second third round type guy, Yante Johnson was the 500 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: first pick of the third round, essentially a second round 501 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: draft pick. Um, that just seems to me to to scream, 502 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: that's where they might look to go again in that 503 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: mission this year. And man, this this draft is loaded 504 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: with those kind of guys, including uh one sky More 505 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: who did really well yesterday in the workouts. I think 506 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: if they want them, that would have to be where 507 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: that has to take him, because I don't think he'll 508 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: get to where they are in the third round. I 509 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: don't think either that. I thought maybe the third round 510 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: was as an option until you put up a very 511 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: pressive workout yesterday and and great for him, obviously, local 512 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: kid from shady side academy and grew up in the 513 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: New Kensington area. But uh, yeah, I think it it 514 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: has to be the second round. I have a hard time. 515 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: They have so many needs, and they've been so good 516 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: at receiver, and it's a really deep receiver class. I 517 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: just don't know if they can say at fifty two 518 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: that even if it's the best player available, and and 519 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: the sky war or someone like that, Christian Watson had 520 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: another really impressive day and and uh John Dawson somewhere 521 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: in that regium as well. But I don't know if 522 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: they you know, they're gonna fill one need with that 523 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: first round pick, they're gonna have a third round pick. 524 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: I think it depends on where they go in free agency. 525 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: If they can fill some of the other spots, and 526 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: free agency they can show her up strong safety, at 527 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: least one of the corner spots, you know, maybe do 528 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: something with the offensive line, and I think wide receiver 529 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: in the second round becomes a lot more realistic. Obviously, 530 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: we'll know more about the quarterback position once free agency 531 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: plays out here before we get to the draft, a 532 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: lot of names being mentioned around the Steelers. Does it 533 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: feel inevitable to you that they will sign somebody or 534 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: might they leave this uh to late April when the 535 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: draft rolls around. I kind of think that they will 536 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: sign somebody or acquire somebody somehow. That's sort of been 537 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert's m O a lot of the time when 538 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: he's been able to when he's known he's come into 539 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: the offseason with the need of a position, he's gone 540 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: out and at least gotten someone that he feels like 541 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: can play the position. If they do the way they want, 542 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: they're not able to get or the draft picked they 543 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: end up taking doesn't work out the way they hope 544 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: that they have someone to have Mason Rudolph and he's 545 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: talked up Mason Rudolph and maybe he thinks that Mason 546 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: Rudolph can be that guy and they don't have to 547 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: bring somebody in. But I don't think we'd here so 548 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: many people talking about the Steelers connected to so many 549 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks if they were just not interested in them, right, So, 550 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think they will bring you know, the 551 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: one that really with the year they drafted Devin even 552 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: though they traded up to get Devin Bush in the 553 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: first round, made a really aggressive draft move. They had 554 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: signed Mark Barron earlier season as a free to shore 555 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: up that position just in case things didn't go the 556 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: way they wanted to in the draft. So Ostler move 557 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: somebody somewhere. Whether that's a big time free agent or 558 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: a smaller move, I don't know, but I expect them 559 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: to add at least one quarterback before we get to 560 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, that's pasked when we when we talked 561 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: to Kevin Colbert last week, UM, you know, is do 562 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: you foresee this being too competition? A three man competition? 563 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, look, if we if we 564 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: spend the money to go get a quarter or anybody 565 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: at any position, really, um, we're probably out of the 566 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: market for that in the draft. I honestly, if they 567 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: if they go acquire a quarterback, whether that be via trade, 568 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: whether that be in free agency, I think they're out 569 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: of the quarter the rookie quarterback class. With a high pick, 570 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: you they're gonna go to camp with four and what 571 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: unless say Malik Willis would happen to fall to twenty 572 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, all bets are off. 573 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I think I don't think that's gonna happen. 574 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen. But I think if 575 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: if pick it or willis what happened to be there, 576 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: or even it appears that they're gonna get to where 577 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: they're in New Orleans, Saints pick at eighteen because really 578 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: between Washington and eleven in New Orleans at eighteen, there's 579 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: not a lot of teams. They're they're gonna be quarterback needie. 580 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: So so if one of those two guys gets past Washington, 581 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: I get the point and say, oh, well, what do 582 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: we need to do to get ahead of in New 583 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: Orleans and get one of those two guys one of 584 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: those Eagles picks? Yeah, yeah, But other than that, yeah, 585 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I'm not really enamored with any 586 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: of the options beyond those guys at twenty. Really maybe 587 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: if they wanted to trade back and get a quarterback 588 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: in the second round. And Rivers had a really nice 589 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: week here um and and really impressed. And he has bands, 590 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: which is of course all the matter. That's that's just 591 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: the end of it. He did also run a four 592 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: or five to which that helps to help through the 593 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: ball pretty well. But our guests has been Alan Saunders 594 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh Sports. Now we shade him stopping by here. 595 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: He's got to get the workout. Lots of writing to 596 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: do over there. But our combine coverage is presented by 597 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: First National Bank. Let's get started, Member f D I. 598 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally here with West Jeuehler. We are taking 599 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: you up to the four o'clock hour today. Matt Williamson 600 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: will be dropping in here a little bit later, but 601 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break live from the Steeler table 602 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: here at the NFL Scouting Combine. We'll be back with 603 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: more right after this live from Indianapolis. This is continuing 604 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: cover each of the NFL and Steelers Nation Radio. Our 605 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: combine coverage is presented by First National Bank. Let's get started. 606 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: Member f D I I am Dale Lally here with 607 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: Wesley Juhler. We are live at the Indiana Convention Center 608 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: here where all the workouts and interviews and things are 609 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: of that nature are going on. And we just Alan 610 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: Saunders on from now. Uh mentioning that the Steelers talked 611 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: to Jordan Davis is with with a formal interview. Again, 612 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: you only get so many of those, and that one's intriguing. Um. 613 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: You know, I did a mo draft, my my last 614 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: mock draft before coming to to Indianapolis here on d 615 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: K Pittsburgh dot com, and I had the Steelers in 616 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: the first round taking Jordan Davis um and people said, well, 617 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: he's only a two day player. Um, I think he 618 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: can push the pocket enough. Here's the thing with it, 619 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: with the way the Steelers are now built. So you 620 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: got t J. Watt pretty good, pretty good pass rusher. 621 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: You got Cam Heyward pretty good, pretty good pass rusher. 622 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: You got Alex high Smith, who I think will have 623 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: an even better year three as a pass rusher. And 624 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, as as Kevin Colbert told us the other day, 625 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: Stefan too it wants to come back as an express 626 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: and expressed a desire to play football. Welcome him back 627 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: with open arms. I think the Steelers would. Um. Maybe 628 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: they asked him to take a slight pay cut off 629 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: or something of that nature to kind of offset some 630 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: things and allow them to do some other things. And 631 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: it's a it would be an act of good faith, 632 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, maybe on onto his part. You know, 633 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers did did him right in one and paid 634 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: him um for the entire season, knowing that he probably 635 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: wasn't play. UM. So now you've got you've got those 636 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: those four pass rushers Tyson and Lulu not a bad 637 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: pass rusher. Chris Wormley showed some some pass rush flashes, 638 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: and I think especially if you're asking him to do 639 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: it out of the bullpen as opposed to start Pitcher, 640 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: where you're gonna get much more. You're only gonna get 641 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: four or five innings out of him. You know, he's 642 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: not the innings eater, but he's you know, if you 643 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: limit the innings and he's a he's a middle guy 644 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: or a setup guy, then that works third quarter or 645 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: fourth quarter when he's still fresh. And so you could 646 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: find ways to work Jordan Davis into that to just say, hey, 647 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: Jordan's you're gonna go into Cam's getting doubled every time. 648 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: We want you to start start taking that guard, that 649 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: left guard and just shoving him back into the backfield. 650 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: And you know, all of a sudden, now they're gonna 651 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: have to start work. We can't have this guy shoving 652 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: somebody into our quarterbacks lap. You know, so that works too. 653 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to be this, Oh, I'm 654 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: gonna beat the guy off the line of scrimmage and 655 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: get to the quarter um. In fact, you know, if 656 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: you look at Cam Heyward. He might be the best 657 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: bull rusher in the NFL. He's certainly at the top 658 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: of the I mean he just goes straight through guys. Uh. 659 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, if Jordan Davis can learn that from that guy, um, 660 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: then then you got something a succession plan. And yeah, no, 661 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. And that is like we all know, 662 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: that's that's something that they've really left and and and 663 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: losing Alu Walu into it. I mean playing what it 664 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: was just the quarters of five quarters five quarters of football. 665 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: That's you're always gonna struggle in that department. But the 666 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: run defense, I mean it was dead last in the NFL. 667 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: You've got to I think you can't. Let's put it 668 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: this way. You can't put all your baskets just in, 669 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: all your baskets, all your eggs in the basket. Put 670 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: all your baskets in the eggs. You can't put your 671 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: baskets in the eggs. That would be difficult. Don't try 672 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: that on Easter kids. You can't put all your eggs 673 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: in the basket of Oh well, Tyson's coming back, we 674 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: think too, it's coming back. Yeah yeah, And and God 675 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: forbid injuries as well too. We know, like Jah louder 676 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: Milk as a potential. You know, it's as a as 677 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: a developmental guy. And he obviously, you know, last year 678 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: was supposed to be presumably uh you know, have yeah 679 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: on scholarship, and that didn't work out, and people are 680 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's you know, well he needs 681 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: to play. Well, okay, he still wasn't ready yet to play. 682 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: He did some nice things for you, but now he 683 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: should be better. All of a sudden, you're starting to 684 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: build some some defensive line depth. There were some young 685 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: guys and and that's exactly what you need, I think. 686 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: Particularly you know, we know the Browns like to run 687 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: the football. We know the Ravens like to run the football. 688 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: You in this division, you have to be able to 689 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: stop the run. And even the Bengals, as pasts heavy 690 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: as they are, mix is pretty dann good. Um, you've 691 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: got to get that movement in the right direction. I 692 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: think in a lot of the same regards that we 693 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: talked about the run games last year and last offseason 694 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: and how it had to improve, it's it's got to 695 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: be the same with the run defense. You can't be 696 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: getting gash like you were last year. Any other thing 697 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: about improving the defensive line or getting it back to 698 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: what it was. Um. So much of that then trickled 699 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: down to the inside linebacker and they're getting they're getting 700 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: guards firing out and getting on them and and people 701 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: Devin Bush can't get off a block. Well, no, kid, 702 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: and that's not what he's built to do. He's built 703 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: to run sideline to sideline and flow to the football. 704 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't help your defensive line isn't playing and when every 705 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: snap he's looking, Okay, where's which guard is gonna come 706 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: out and get me here? Um? Yeah, that makes you 707 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: a little trigger shy. Your gun shy should say you know, 708 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: to to fire the fire off because somebody's gonna hit 709 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: there and I'm gonna you know it's so you're not 710 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: getting that body moving in front of you you need to 711 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: keep them uncovered and let them run to the football. 712 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. And if you do that, um, 713 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: then you'll see a better Devon Bush, you know. I 714 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: believe so. Yeah, maybe he still doesn't ever live up 715 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: to the top ten in the hype that he had 716 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: coming out of college, but if you could improve that 717 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: d line, you would see a better Devon Bush. I 718 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: believe that as well, because I lot in his second season, 719 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: the first five games of his second season, I thought 720 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: he playing pretty well and then all you know, and 721 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: then for um and even if you think about how 722 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: the play on which that knee injury occurred at the 723 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: end of the half against Cleveland and he's running down 724 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's making a play on the sideline 725 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: and gets hurt over there in front of the brown sideline. Um. 726 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's speed, that that that he had. 727 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's running down Kareem Hunt over there 728 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: on the on the edge, uh, and got hurt. So 729 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how they approached that, Um, what 730 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: they do with whether it is signing another veteran guy 731 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: in free agency, because you can get those guys for 732 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: a few million bucks. Yeah, you know, maybe a one 733 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: year deal for you know, four or five million. But 734 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: I get his renting. You know, do you want to 735 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: rent or do you want to you know, rent to own? 736 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: You know, that's rent to own. And that's you know, 737 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: that's the beauty of all this and why we do 738 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: six hours alive radio years because you can speculate and 739 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: do hype that with that. But the good news is 740 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: to another week or two here. The plan, the blueprint 741 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: will start to come together as soon as we get 742 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: the free agency and see those initial moves ahead of 743 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: the draft in April. Yeah. Absolutely, we'll start to see 744 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: the dominoes begin to fall here within you know, in 745 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: a week and a half. That's what's exciting about it. 746 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: And that's what that's what the NFL does so well. 747 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: It never goes away. It's three five days a year. Yeah, 748 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: and then uh, you know, at the end of this month, 749 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: at the end of March, you have the the league 750 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: springs meetings. We'll hear from Mike Tomlin down there. That's 751 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: when he addresses the media. Is it in Florida this year? Yes, 752 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: they're done in Boca ratan Um. Nice place to be 753 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: in mar Yeah. Absolutely. But yeah, you'll start to so 754 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: you'll you'll be a couple of weeks in the free agency. 755 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: You'll hear from Mike down there, and you know what 756 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: he's got, you know what he feels like they've accomplished 757 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: thus far to that point in free agency. If anything, 758 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: I would assume there's somewhat active in that opening couple 759 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: of weeks and signing some you know, the interesting thing 760 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: about this year is that of the league is going 761 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: to be an unrestricted free agent. That's an average. It's 762 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: twenty guys per teen because so many guys signed one 763 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: year deals last year because of the COVID situation. Nobody 764 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: wanted to lock up guys long term because cap was 765 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: going down, so you saw a lot of guys sign 766 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: these one year deals. Usually those would have been your 767 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: proven deals. In this case, it was a one year 768 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: this is all I'm gonna get deal, you know, and 769 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm not going to And a lot of 770 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: guys didn't want to sign long term deals last year 771 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: because again the cap was going down. They knew a 772 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: little bit. And then you can get if I jump 773 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: back in next year, Peten's are gonna have more money. 774 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: I can sign a long term deal. I'm still six 775 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: years old. I can still get that good second deal 776 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: and you know, get get to you know, get the 777 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: big payout. Um, we'll see if that comes to fruition there. 778 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: There's still eleven teams over the cap going into this, 779 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: so you know there's some teams that have some some stuff. 780 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: There's a report today that the Cowboy He's where one 781 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: of those teams that aren't going to retain Amari Cooper. Again, 782 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: that adds another good veteran wide receiver to the free 783 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: agent market. Yeah, it does. And and I think when 784 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned those numbers, like an average of twenty free 785 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: agents per team, I think you said there's gonna be 786 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: some value out there. There's gonna be some guys we're 787 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna be asking for bigger money. It's gonna get a 788 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks into the process and and the Amari 789 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: Coopers will get plucked out, and then J. C. Jackson 790 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: stars will get paid. But there's gonna be that second way, 791 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: that middle class that's that the Steelers need so desperate, 792 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: that's usually where the drop at to begin with. I 793 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: think they might be a little more active early, but 794 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: again maybe with some of those guys that they identify, like, look, 795 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: he's not going to get a hute when he's not 796 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: gonna get a sixteen million dollar a year deal, but 797 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: we'll pay him six you know, right, And and then 798 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: don't say you come here, you do well, and off 799 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: you go, and maybe there's more of an opportunity for 800 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: you to cash in next offseason, or you get that 801 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: guy to four yeeld like a Steven Nelson type you know, 802 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: make that work that way. 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