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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nola.

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Speaker 3: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Alexis Cod named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly,

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Speaker 3: you are you. You are here that makes this the

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Speaker 3: stuff they don't want you to know. It is the

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Speaker 3: top of the week, which means it's time for some

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Speaker 3: strange news. Fellow conspiracy realist. We are going to learn

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Speaker 3: some disturbing things in Sierra Leone. We're going to learn

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Speaker 3: some crazy stuff in South Korea. We're going to have

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Speaker 3: a follow up to the Norfolk Southern East Palestine episode. Uh.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about Uh. I'm going to talk about

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Speaker 3: some worrying stuff with zoonotic infections. Bugs. Baby. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to a heist. But before we do any of that,

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Speaker 3: have you ever gone by a different name? Fellas? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Ben?

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Speaker 4: No comment?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: If not so much? I do like with this uh,

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Speaker 4: with our little virtual recordings, we get to give ourselves

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Speaker 4: fun nicknames every time we log in, so that usually

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Speaker 4: is a fun thing to do. But I'm not really

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Speaker 4: It seems like something other people are supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: Not the same however, as stealing someone's identity. That's that's very,

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Speaker 4: very different. And also, you know, when we think of

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Speaker 4: identity theft oftentimes or so inundata these days, with like

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Speaker 4: you know, life luck and all of these ways of

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Speaker 4: protecting yourself and you know, getting alerts when our passwords

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Speaker 4: have appeared and leaked data breach kind of situations, and

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Speaker 4: almost to the point where it's like, Okay, it's just

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Speaker 4: another thing. It's part for the course. And if you're

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Speaker 4: doing your stuff right, nine times out of ten, you've

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Speaker 4: and you're probably gonna even if someone does steal your

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Speaker 4: data or steal your credit card or whatever it might be,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be mildly inconvenient at best, right. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's certainly escalated versions of that, but overall, I'm not

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Speaker 4: really worried about having my life turned upside down by

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Speaker 4: somebody swiping my credit card digits, you know, using like

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Speaker 4: a skimmer or something like that. It's just probably gonna.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just had an experience with a potential skimmer

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Speaker 2: at a gas station. It was not fun. But what

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Speaker 2: I would say is, I think the thing people are

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Speaker 2: that I haven't looked at in a while, and now

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Speaker 2: I've got to deal with this. But it is a

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Speaker 2: sliding scale that goes pretty deep, right, Absolutely, there.

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Speaker 3: Are protections in you know, Like again, as we always

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Speaker 3: say with these stories, the natural default state of your

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Speaker 3: credit should be frozen. You should unfreeze it when you

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Speaker 3: a huge hassle. The onus is on the consumer. But

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Speaker 3: to your point, Noel, a lot of times when we

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Speaker 3: often credit companies have protections for you as the actual

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Speaker 3: holder of the card. But this sure is only the beginning.

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Speaker 4: It's only the beginning. And you know the FD I see,

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Speaker 4: worrying about. To your point, Ben, you should absolutely worry

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Speaker 4: terms of like ruin it with worry, let's talk about

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Speaker 4: how it could actually ruin your life. I don't want

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Speaker 4: in August of twenty nineteen, Woods, who was living unhoused

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Speaker 4: Ins is the one perpetrating the fraud. Woods is the

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Speaker 4: wonder if some of that stuff couldn't have been what

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Speaker 4: up being institutionalized. He is institutionalized because he is all

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Speaker 4: the while, as you would, claiming that someone is stealing

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Speaker 4: I mean, talk about what would you guys call that

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Speaker 3: It's institutionally gaslight. Yeah, I mean there's this thing that

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Speaker 3: And I mean we have to exercise some empathy for

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Speaker 3: just how frustrating this must be. No, you're saying, I

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Speaker 3: But I didn't make the question how.

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Speaker 4: Am I not myself? It reminds me of that thing

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Speaker 4: up to this point, it would seem Matt, what do

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Speaker 2: Well, I just I think this is an impossible situation

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Speaker 2: and that institution makes the decision, oh, no, you're not

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Speaker 4: You are based on this criteria. This is our gold standard.

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Speaker 4: You have failed the test. Therefore you are not you

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Speaker 4: and you are so in a non grata at this point.

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Speaker 4: I said it led to that he was incarcerated for

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Speaker 4: through various occurrences likely related to him refusing to just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like psychotropic medication.

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Speaker 4: God, dude, can you imagine? This is like, I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's going to make a movie out of this. This

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Speaker 3: In a way. It reminds me of what was that

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Speaker 3: I think ultimately institutionalized. It's tough when you go against

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Speaker 3: this kind of fraud over time, because every single time

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Speaker 3: you successfully steal an identity or take one that is

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Speaker 3: support for the next time you try something like that. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's so like from the days of the hot Dog stand.

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Speaker 3: Fast forward a few years, and now this person who

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Speaker 3: and hopefully is there a happy ending here North?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, no, please Matt, real quick.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just wonder how you go through all this

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Speaker 3: Do we know the real identity of the detective never mind?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: given that there would not be serious consequences, I guess,

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Speaker 3: because remember the it sort of faded from the news

435
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 3: for a while. We were we were one of the

436
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 3: few groups outside of Ohio that was still talking about

437
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 3: outside of Ohio and outside of a courtroom, I should say, right,

438
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 3: we're not in court yet.

439
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: Well, in the houses of everybody who was affected, I'm

440
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: sure they were talking about it plenty, right.

441
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a great pointment. And what you need to know, folks,

442
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 3: is that there was a freight train with almost one

443
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty like one hundred and forty nine cars

444
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: that derailed and just riddled the area with toxic chemicals

445
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: vinyl chloride in particular, there were mass evacuations of a

446
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 3: relatively small town and much later. Still right now in

447
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, people are suffering from respiratory problems, unexplained rashes,

448
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: nose bleeds, And think about that. How scary it is

449
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 3: to just have nose bleeds and you go to a

450
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: doctor and the doctor says, I can write you a

451
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: prescription for Kleenex. I don't know if there's a difference

452
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: between over the counter Cleenex.

453
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: I want to know. I want, I want to get out.

454
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: That's what's I guarantee.

455
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: Want too good? Yeah, yeah, the money's using it's like, uh,

456
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 3: it's like quintuple ply or something. Right, So this agreement

457
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: is something that Norfolk Southern came to on its own.

458
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: And if the quarter proves, what they're going to do

459
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: is why it may not be all good news. Is

460
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: they're going to wipe out all the class action claims

461
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 3: within a twenty mile radius of the derailment. And six

462
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: undred million dollars is a lot to us. It's not

463
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: a ton to it's not a ton to a train company. Right,

464
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: They already spent one point one billion in response to

465
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: this derailment. They have sent like one hundred and four

466
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: million in direct aid to residents of this town. And

467
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: they made it. I feel like they kind of made

468
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: a deal with US government because the Biden administration never

469
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: declared it a disaster at all.

470
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Speaker 2: Wow, and it was very much was it means hard

471
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: to believe that it wasable.

472
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 4: We saw the pictures. I mean, if that's not a disaster,

473
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 4: what is right exactly?

474
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: And this is something you know, This is again just

475
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: a brief follow up in our sort of interim cavalcade

476
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: of strange news. We do hope that the residents of

477
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: East Palestine and all those affected do get justice. We

478
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: know again, if you listen back to our previous episode,

479
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: we were very careful to say the bad guys here

480
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: are not the people who are operating the trains. There's

481
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: still a huge debate right now over whether or not

482
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 3: train companies should be required to have a decent amount

483
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: of staff on a train, which is bizarro land crazy.

484
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: I don't really have a segue other than saying, you know,

485
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: we do keep an eye on stories, folks, and we

486
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: do we we do want to share the updates when

487
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: they are obstinative, and here's hoping this will lead to

488
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: I don't know, greater justice. It just seems weird to

489
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: basically bribe you pay your way out of class action

490
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: lawsuits and we'll see whether the courts approved.

491
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 4: Is it just kind of like that's the implication there,

492
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 4: or I guess, I mean anyone can pay themselves out

493
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: of an a lawsuit by just like you know, settle settling,

494
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: And I guess I've always found that to be a

495
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 4: little troubling because it allows people to not be held accountable,

496
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: especially when there are large corporations whose actions affect not

497
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: only the people who are part of a class action,

498
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: but actions moving forward. And it doesn't really ever seem

499
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 4: there are any substantive regulatory what's the word I'm looking for,

500
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: I guess consequences outside of just them paying a bunch

501
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: of money that they really have to burn.

502
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: Lobbies and companies often have more money than victims. Unfortunately,

503
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 3: not just in the US, but in the world. There

504
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: is another national emergency, not in the United States. But

505
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: this story is so crazy, I just wanted to I

506
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: wanted to bring it to like, because I'm not sure

507
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: how much attention it's getting in the West. Did you

508
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: guys hear about the drug crisis in Sierra Leone? No?

509
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: I have not. All right, Well, apparently there is a

510
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: huge national panic because people with drug addiction issues have

511
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: resorted to becoming resurrection men. They are digging up graves

512
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: to quote get high on drugs made from human bones.

513
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: WHOA, this reminds me of some of that crazy There

514
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: are some like really gnarly drugs in Russia, like crocodile

515
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 4: and like jenkam and things like that that were made

516
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: from human excrement or something like that. How do you

517
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: how does one make drugs out of human bones?

518
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: It's a good question. So this goes to let's start

519
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: with let's start with the contact. A little while back,

520
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: earlier this year, Tommy Trenchard, a journalist for MPR, wrote

521
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: a good piece of primer about the drug that was

522
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: taking over as Sierra Leone, which is called cush with

523
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: a K. It's a synthetic cannabinoid. It also can contain acetone, tramadol, formulin,

524
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: and even fittanol, a couple of nasty, nasty substances all

525
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: mixed together. And it was a hit because it was

526
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: very accessible, and it was very cheap in comparison to

527
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: other things. And I think when we name some of

528
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: those drugs, that sounds like a wallop, right, Like, why

529
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: would you take all of that at once?

530
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to just not feel anything.

531
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: Well.

532
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: I imagine if you took it one time. I'm assuming

533
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: there's a very specific series of effects that all of

534
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: those in a concoction would give you. It would be

535
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: something you probably chase overall.

536
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: It appears to be a depressant. This is something folks,

537
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: if you live on the West coast right in because

538
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: you love your first hand experiences, you can sometimes see

539
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: the lean that people have in San Francisco and places

540
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: like that when they are under the influence of very

541
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: very powerful drugs.

542
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: I thought you were at first thing. I thought you're

543
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: talking about Lean as in the Yeah, like.

544
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: Lean is also a problem?

545
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: Is that leans slight?

546
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

547
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: But lean is itself. I think the name probably derives

548
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 4: from that very thing that you're talking about, because it

549
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: does make you like, have these nods anything that's got

550
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: opioid content. And I believe this is what lean is,

551
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: like a mixture of I believe sprite and like codeine

552
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: or something along those lines. So, yeahthe get that lean

553
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: you're talking about for sure.

554
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so we know that kush has this depressive effect.

555
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: It's similar to how sometimes people resort to opioids or

556
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: heroin right to feel a little bit of relief, to

557
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: fill that float. Cush, however, can have really bad effects

558
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: on your immune system. You'll get sores. People say their

559
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: feet will swell, their lower legs will swell. They often

560
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: get a pounding sensation in their head, pain in their

561
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: necks and joints. And that's not even getting into the liver,

562
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: kidney and respiratory consequences of this. It's tough, right and

563
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people in Sierra Leone already struggle with poverty,

564
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: with corruption, all this other stuff. Here is where we

565
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: get to the very strange, i mean, still heartbreaking, even weirder,

566
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: more grulish story. If we go to int n DTV World,

567
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: we'll see an article by Bavia Sukja just from yesterday,

568
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: April eleventh. This psychoactive depressant also according to the streets,

569
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: contains parts from human bones and by this point it's

570
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: been around for about six years.

571
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

572
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: The drug itself can give you a high that lasts

573
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: several hours and they're cutting the drug with human bones.

574
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: So drug dealers who are running out of the actual

575
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: cush supply are putting this into their product. And the

576
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: thing is maybe the most heartbreaking thing. This doesn't actually

577
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: do anything. The human bone ingredient is essentially a placebo.

578
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, where are they getting all this from? Are they

579
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: robbing crematoriums? Like are there? You said, they're like digging

580
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: this up? Or why? But why this versus baby laxative?

581
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem very tenable or or or functional.

582
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: Well, you can get the bones for free instead of

583
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: buying the baby lax Oh jeesus.

584
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: That's once again the banality of evil is just that

585
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: dirt simple, isn't it.

586
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, I would say it's grave dirt simple.

587
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: It's a it's again the motive involved and looking into this.

588
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: You know, oftentimes we know that in the West stories

589
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: about countries in the African continent they have a weird perspective.

590
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes they can feel like fear mongering or condescending. But

591
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: we looked into this and it is real. There are

592
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: very few opportunities or institutions for drug rehab services in

593
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: this part of the world, and according to the few

594
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: we can find, like the National Psychiatric Teaching Hospital. They're

595
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: in Freetown. They are inundated with push users, like there

596
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: is money to be made for the drug dealers, and

597
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: we don't know how far this goes. I mean, what

598
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: are you going to do? Set up security guards for

599
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: every graveyard? What's the answer?

600
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: Could be a job creator if you wanted to be,

601
00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: if you have.

602
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: So so, we don't want to leave you like that.

603
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: We have we have enough time for one more, which

604
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: is a little bit weirder, which I think will be

605
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: interesting to you. Guys, you're both parents. What would you

606
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 3: do if iHeart came to you and said, hey, we'll

607
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: give you an extra thirty grand to have another kid.

608
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: I would start the process immediately, find someone, say do

609
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: you want a baby in you?

610
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: No?

611
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: Okay, do you want a baby in you?

612
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: Bro? Do you know how? Do not recall how? I mean,

613
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: maybe you're just a little younger, but fifteen years of

614
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 4: paying for stuff, that thirty thousand they're going to cover it? Man,

615
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't I don't think it's.

616
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: Oh it's twenty two thousand for the first one.

617
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the first one. I'm good.

618
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I'll take it, and I just like being

619
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: a dad.

620
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: That's great, but we want to and I just feel like

621
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: that's quite the low ball offer, is all I'm saying.

622
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: So here's why I'm asking. In some nations, as we know,

623
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 3: birth rates are in sharp decline, a lot of what

624
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: we'll call developed nations, especially in the East Asian sphere

625
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: right Japan. Our story here takes place in South Korea.

626
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: There are South Korean companies, private industry, to be clear,

627
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: not the government, that are offering their employees up to

628
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: seventy five grand US equivalent to have babies because the

629
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: birth rate decline in South Korea is reaching a crisis point. Okay, yeah,

630
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 3: one of them's an underwear company.

631
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: So how hard is it to become a South Korean citizen?

632
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: Oh it's a game of rock paper scissors. Three out

633
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: of five.

634
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: Dang.

635
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: I guess I wouldn't count either.

636
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 3: So here's the announcement. And this is just one example

637
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: of one company. On Thursday, a company named Song Bungle

638
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: Underwear Manufacturers said, look, if you work for us, we'll

639
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: give you twenty two four hundred dollars for your first child.

640
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: We'll give you another twenty two four hundred dollars for

641
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: a second child, and if you have a third child,

642
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: we'll give you thirty grand pulling a lot of this

643
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: from the Korea Herald. So all told, all told, that's

644
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: nothing to sneeze at. That's that's a pretty hefty amount

645
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: of money. But to your point, Noel, children can be

646
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: expensive right anywhere in the world.

647
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: I guess that is understand Okay, So it's about raising

648
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: the population, don't we typically want to lower the population.

649
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: Well generally in some places, yes, But maybe.

650
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Speaker 4: I'm not proposing you know what I'm saying. Just you know,

651
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Speaker 4: population tends to be out of control in a lot

652
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Speaker 4: of parts of the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, we are all economic batteries, right, and ultimately we

654
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Speaker 2: are workers, right, individual human being. Each child becomes a worker,

655
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Speaker 2: a cog in the economy, which is why countries individually

656
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Speaker 2: are probably interested in keeping their populations up, which is

657
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Speaker 2: I think what we're dealing with here.

658
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the decline in birth rate, which again is becoming

659
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Speaker 3: increasingly common in what we would call developed countries, is

660
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Speaker 3: an economic danger, especially when you confront things like the

661
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Speaker 3: cyclical aging of generations. Right there, are going the US

662
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: is going to deal with this problem as well as

663
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Speaker 3: a massive amount of people retire, there are fewer children

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Speaker 3: being born. It's society is kind of a Ponzi scheme

665
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: to be honest, Like, you have to have more people

666
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: created to maintain the institutions, laws and mores that sustain

667
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Speaker 3: the previous or existing population.

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Speaker 2: So if the military has been you've got to maintain

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Speaker 2: the military.

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Speaker 3: You got to maintain the military's map. And so in

671
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: South Korea this is part of a larger issue. Fewer

672
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Speaker 3: people are getting married in general or even co parenting

673
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Speaker 3: because they feel that the environment in which they live

674
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Speaker 3: is so hyper competitive, so unwelcoming, Like they're asking with

675
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Speaker 3: a lot of validity, have a child in this.

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Speaker 2: Economy idiocracy, idiocracy and intuocracy exactly.

677
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Speaker 3: And there was another previous previous statement. The actual seventy

678
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Speaker 3: five grand per child comes from a Buyoung group, which

679
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Speaker 3: is a construction firm and soul and part of our

680
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Speaker 3: pronunciation here, folks, it appears that they'll give you a

681
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Speaker 3: seventy grand per kid.

682
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Speaker 4: That's more like it.

683
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Speaker 3: So you know, if you're done manufacturing underwear, go have

684
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Speaker 3: kids with the construction firm.

685
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Speaker 2: Right, I just got a vision. Sorry to take it

686
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Speaker 2: back to the military because construction thing is really interesting,

687
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: like that company specifically wanting babies that in eighteen years

688
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: or whatever, it can work for them, just thinking about

689
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Speaker 2: militaries in the future that will give you money to

690
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Speaker 2: have a child that and sign a contract that when

691
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Speaker 2: that child reaches a certain age, he or she signs

692
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Speaker 2: up to military service or whatever. You know. PMC it

693
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Speaker 2: is private military company and they even they even as

694
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Speaker 2: part of the deal, you get certain like gene therapies,

695
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Speaker 2: right and drug therapies, super soldiers.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, uh take care, take

697
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Speaker 3: care of the kid until it's eighteen. It's a fairytale level.

698
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Speaker 4: There was a sketch on I want to say it

699
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Speaker 4: was Mister Show in like a later season where Bob

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Speaker 4: Oden Kirk Ye had to be Kirk. He plays like

701
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: a like a basketball recruiter, but he's going to like

702
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: elementary schools and even like kindergartens and stuff, and he

703
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Speaker 4: like starting them real young.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: And he's he always brings his famous potato soup to

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Speaker 4: give to the parent. I brought you some potato soup.

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Speaker 4: And he's just talking about watching these little kids on

708
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Speaker 4: the playground and yeah, that one right there, is going

709
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Speaker 4: to be a bruiser.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. That just made me giggle. It's what you're describing.

712
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Speaker 4: Mat is horrifying and dystopian, af and plausible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially as the future, especially as time when's odd,

714
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Speaker 3: last player I want to make before a move odd

715
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Speaker 3: this kind of stuff, some sort of support system is necessary.

716
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: National fertility rates are a subject of intensive study. If

717
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 3: you are for any entire country tuning in if you are,

718
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Speaker 3: if you are trying to maintain your population, not grow it,

719
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Speaker 3: just not have a population collapse. You need a fertility

720
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Speaker 3: rate of about two point one right now, right now,

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Speaker 3: the national as of a few years ago, excuse me,

722
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Speaker 3: a national fertility rate of South Korea was zero point

723
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Speaker 3: seven eight. Over time, this can lead to population collapse,

724
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Speaker 3: which is dangerous. This is an existential crisis for a

725
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: country when it dips below a certain point. But the

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Speaker 3: question is, and folks, let us know your thoughts. The

727
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: question is, how do you fix this stuff? Do you

728
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Speaker 3: try to give people a lump sum per child that

729
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: doesn't seem economically feasible. Do you crack some faustian bargain?

730
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Speaker 3: What sort of incentives should there be? Do you increase

731
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Speaker 3: immigration right. Let us know. Can't we hear your thoughts? Conspiracy?

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734
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Speaker 3: back with a little bit more strange news.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. Guys. You in for a little heist.

736
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Speaker 2: I'm always enterial heist, all right. We are headed to

737
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Speaker 2: San Fernando Valley in California, and we're going to the

738
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Speaker 2: Garda World to take the five.

739
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Speaker 4: You take the five to the four five?

740
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Speaker 2: Oh shoot, I don't know what would I take. I

741
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Speaker 2: would take four or five, I think let's see, yeah,

742
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: I would definitely. No, I would get on the five,

743
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: I think probably, and then heads straight up to uh

744
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Speaker 2: Silmar and to the guard World. I'd definitely get off

745
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: on San Fernando Road my brother and take it right

746
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Speaker 2: on Roxford Street because that's where this Guard World cash

747
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: vault facility is that we're headed to.

748
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Speaker 3: Uh.

749
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Speaker 2: This is one of, if not the largest cash heist

750
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Speaker 2: ever in Los Angeles, guys, as much as thirty million

751
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 2: dollars we're stolen on Easter Sunday. Now, when I tell you,

752
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: guys that a hole was punched in this concrete stone,

753
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Speaker 2: if you will facility, and thirty million dollars of cash

754
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: was emerged from that hole in the wall on Easter Sunday.

755
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Speaker 2: That's feeling a little religious, don't you think a little biblical?

756
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 2: A little like on the third day this cash emerged. Okay,

757
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Speaker 2: I'm getting a little weird with it, but no, I

758
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: like it. A thirty million, there's a three in there.

759
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: Two whatever numerology, let's let's do it. Okay. So so

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Speaker 2: this was Sunday, March thirty first, twenty twenty four. This

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Speaker 2: is an overnight heist and it occurred on that Sunday

762
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Speaker 2: night and then it wasn't discovered until the next Monday

763
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Speaker 2: morning when workers at the facility entered in their facility

764
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Speaker 2: and opened the vault and found that it was empty.

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Speaker 2: Now here's why it's crazy, guys. This is this is

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Speaker 2: Garda World.

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Speaker 4: This is a.

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Speaker 2: Huge company that handles I mean, thirty million dollars there alone.

769
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Speaker 2: Should let you know that they handle a ton of money.

770
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Speaker 2: But that was just one vault where the cash was

771
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Speaker 2: taken from. This is a huge facility that holds all

772
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Speaker 2: kinds of valuables in cash, and somebody got in there

773
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Speaker 2: without tripping an alarm. That alerted anyone like think about

774
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Speaker 2: that that.

775
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Speaker 4: Should be they must have lowered themselves down from the

776
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Speaker 4: ceiling and had those sweet, you know, little smoke things

777
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: that show where all the laser trip wires are. I

778
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: don't how do you do this outside?

779
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know the step by steps or.

780
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Speaker 2: Do we don't know the steps? We don't know the

781
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: step by steps. We know will rebelieve at least according

782
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: to some people, you know, it's that whole Like a

783
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: person was quoted that was familiar with the investigation, but

784
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Speaker 2: it was not unable to say anything publicly, so you

785
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: can't name who they are. But allegedly, according to the

786
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: information we have, this facility was entered from the ceiling

787
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: from the roof and they did kind of maybe what

788
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: you're talking about, No, lowered down into the vault. And

789
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Speaker 2: then there was another hole that was discovered by a

790
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Speaker 2: local chopper that was going around for news and looking

791
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Speaker 2: at it. There's a hole on the side of the

792
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: facility that it is currently unknown if it had anything

793
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Speaker 2: to do with the heist.

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Speaker 3: Did you see what Sorry, I don't want to be

795
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: tough on the people here unfairly, but did you see

796
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: that kind of slap dash job of fixing the hole

797
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: on the ground.

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Speaker 2: It puts a flyboard on that sucker and then like

799
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: shoved it in with a lip too. By form, it

800
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: looks like.

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Speaker 3: My drunk uncle just said, well, I'm not paying somebody

802
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Speaker 3: to fix this hole.

803
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: Well, it's an active investigation with the FBI involved in

804
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 2: the LAPD, so I'm assuming they're not really worried about

805
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: anybody coming back into the vault.

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Speaker 3: Like all of my drunk uncle's YARDWORKI the LAPD is there,

807
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: So okay, So this is this is insane. I think

808
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 3: we were all reading about this separately. First off, check

809
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: out our earlier brain Stuff episode on why you should

810
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: never rob a bank. You will not get as much

811
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: money as you think this.

812
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: As you get thirty million dollars.

813
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: And it's not a bank. This is Hollywood level heisting.

814
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Part of why Matt, I would imagine I was talking

815
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Speaker 3: with some folks about this, I would imagine that part

816
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: of the reason there is not more detail yet is

817
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: because everybody who works for this institution is getting looked

818
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: into pretty diligently.

819
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. The first comment I wrote in my

820
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: notes here was it's a terrible time to be an

821
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Speaker 2: employee of the Garda World Cash Vault in Silmar, California.

822
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine the scrutiny turning people's lives upside down. Probably.

823
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. There are so few individuals that would have

824
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 2: known exactly how much money or even remotely how much

825
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: money was in that vault at that time. Because this

826
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Speaker 2: Garda World facility they offer cash vault services, which generally

827
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Speaker 2: means you can go to their website, by the way,

828
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Speaker 2: cash dot g ar da dot com to read all

829
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Speaker 2: about their services. Get it and and this is money

830
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: that in and out of this facility, right, This is

831
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Speaker 2: for companies often that have to keep cash on hand

832
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: to operate, banks that have to have a bunch of

833
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: money on hand to operate all kinds of organizations that

834
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Speaker 2: will have, you know, let's say a couple maybe one

835
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars at your local banks branch. So this

836
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: facility has a bunch of cash at times, but not

837
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Speaker 2: all the time.

838
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 4: Right.

839
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Speaker 2: Somebody knew when it was going to be in that

840
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: vault overnight.

841
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 3: And they knew the staffing cycles too.

842
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they knew staffing cycles, and they knew how

843
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: to get in through the roof. Is somebody had access

844
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: to lightar. I guess if they weren't, if it wasn't

845
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: an inside job, somebody like saw through the facility or

846
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: got a hold of a blueprint Hollywood style and made

847
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Speaker 2: this thing happen to it.

848
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Speaker 3: You just don't break Look, with a facility like this,

849
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: you don't improvise, you don't just bring in you know.

850
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 3: These guys were not and it was more than one person.

851
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 3: They were not just driving by and said, hey, man,

852
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: when's the last time we did something fun and spontaneous activity?

853
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Speaker 4: Man?

854
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everyone is saying that it was some kind

855
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: of sophisticated crew Ocean's eleven style, if you will. There

856
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: were probably individual intros for each of the characters, you

857
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

858
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a mortage. There were several twists. Also, if

859
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: you're a fan of sketch comedy, this reminds me of

860
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: a group called Chris and Jack. I say, a group.

861
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: It's these two guys, Chris and Jack doing an amazing

862
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 3: sketch comedy. I think they're gonna blow up pretty soon.

863
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: They have this run of heist sketches, Matt that you

864
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Speaker 3: would love. I'm I'm gonna send some to the group

865
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 3: after this. But yes, I'm picturing a cartoonish level agglomeration

866
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Speaker 3: of heist. I hope that they got people who are

867
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 3: each part of the crew because of one specific speciality,

868
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: you know, and that's I want one guy who's like, man,

869
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: I'll know a lot about heist, but I've worked in

870
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 3: roofing for you know, fifty years.

871
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: You're the perfect man for the job. Come on in,

872
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: all right, Freddy, let's go. But they're the one of

873
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: the craziest things here, guys. There was a single alarm

874
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: that was tripped in the facility when they entered. In

875
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: the way they did. That alarm, though, was not connected

876
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: up to reach the LAPD or the local sheriff's office

877
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: or you know, the county police the way most do.

878
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: When you when you get an alarm system in your house,

879
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: like if let's say you use simply Safe, which is

880
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, an organization that has sponsored us before you.

881
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: If you have that system active in your home, you're

882
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: not required to, I guess, but it is highly encouraged

883
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: to connect that system up directly to your local police

884
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 2: department so that if that alarm goes off, they're immediately alerted.

885
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 2: You don't even have to be there, and they will

886
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: send somebody out to your house to like check up,

887
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: make sure everything's okay.

888
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: Because otherwise it's reduced to like a neighborhood alert or

889
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: a or your audible disincentive.

890
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you might get an alert on your phone

891
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: that says, hey, someone's broken into your house. Congratulations, it

892
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: finally happens. Uh sorry, but you know.

893
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: Hartle World doesn't answer their emails or check their text

894
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: on Easter right.

895
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: Well, well yeah, but it makes me think again when

896
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: you're talking about an inside job kind of thing. I

897
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: don't know if you could maybe disconnect that specific alarm

898
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: from that, you know, that larger system.

899
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 4: Well, I mean tough, but if you have some sort

900
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 4: of hacking capabilities and are able to infiltrate the system,

901
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 4: I bet you there would be some way you could

902
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 4: do it by rerouting something within the software. You know,

903
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 4: I'm just kind of talking out loud. Usually when they

904
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: do it in movies, somebody snips something, you know, outside,

905
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 4: usually in like a breaker box as or a panel

906
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 4: or something. But as far as like we've talked about

907
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: the dangers of being in a smart home situation where

908
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 4: everything is Internet connected, because if it's connected to the Internet,

909
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: then people can access it as well. So I just

910
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: got to wonder if there's a way of doing that virtually.

911
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: Like this is okay, if I understand this correctly, Matt,

912
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: this is right now the largest full cash heist right

913
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 3: in the history of Los Angeles, which is saying something

914
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: because there have been other other folks who heild that

915
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: record before.

916
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: But yes, nineteen ninety seven, nineteen point nine million dollars

917
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: from another like armored cash facility, this time a dunbar

918
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: armored facility.

919
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: The question is, at this point, it's pretty likely that

920
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: someone's going to get caught or at least implicated in this,

921
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: because even to the point about using system admin privileges

922
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: to like re route something or snipping snipping a cable

923
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: seems easier or seems smarter, because I feel like if

924
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 3: you are working at the if you're working in it

925
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 3: or any software affiliated thing, you just lost a month

926
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: of work. You're going to be hanging out with the

927
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 3: LAPD for a while.

928
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a messy situation there. So our hearts go

929
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 2: out to all of the Garter World cash employees there

930
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: in Silmar, all the ones who were not involved in

931
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: the cash hes. Yeah, but there's a whole other thing

932
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 2: in here I wanted to talk about, but we don't

933
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: have to. It was something that I think we mentioned,

934
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: at least to ourselves. I don't think we ever put

935
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: it on Mike. But there was a there was a

936
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: heist of a truck. No, we did talk about it,

937
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: the heist of a truck that was carrying a bunch

938
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: of jewels. Do you remember we talked about this from

939
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 2: the Gem Show?

940
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: Wasn't it from a Gem sactly exactly? And while the

941
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: guys were going in to take a leak at a

942
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: truck stop, which did kind of make it feel like

943
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 4: a crime of opportunity as opposed to this one that

944
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 4: you're talking about today.

945
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: You guys, when is the last time we did something

946
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 3: spontitious and fun? That's my favorite. I what a heartwork. Also,

947
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: there were no injuries, none that we know of. There

948
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 3: were no fatalities.

949
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: But that one occurred a while back. You guys are

950
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and that case is still open. Nobody

951
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: has been charged, nothing has been found. It's just like, oh, well,

952
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: I guess that one hundred million dollars worth of jewels

953
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: is gone now. But in this case there's still you know,

954
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: It's only been what ten or eleven days since this

955
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: heist as the day were recording on Wednesday, April tenth,

956
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: So who knows, But I guess weirdly, like, nice work, guys,

957
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 2: because you were you've pulled it off.

958
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: So far that there were no known injuries or fatalities.

959
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, nobody got hurt. And then the insurance companies

960
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: get involved, I guess.

961
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: Which is weird because there's a story we didn't get to.

962
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: I had learned recently that there is a growing trend

963
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: of private insurance companies seen drones to keep an eye

964
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: on like property values and assessments and stuff. So maybe

965
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 3: maybe the I mean the insurance companies will be left

966
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: holding the bag on this one, right, they have to

967
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 3: pay the piper here.

968
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, did you have you guys noticed the Afflect drones?

969
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Afflect drones yet? No, the ones

970
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: that follow your car as they like fly above your

971
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: car as the highway.

972
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: Like the duck.

973
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the insurance companies will follow your car to

974
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: ensure that you are you are driving safely and maintaining

975
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: correct speed and all this stuff. That don't that just guys, Hey,

976
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 2: everyone listening, I'm just kidding.

977
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: I really believe you. If you are weird enough, if

978
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: you don't look closely enough, you can mistake them for birds,

979
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: because those AFFLEC drones do have feathers ducks. And look,

980
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 3: we're not ornithologists, but some stuff is just true.

981
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: I'm quite the contrary. I am whatever the opposite of

982
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: an ornithologist is, That's what I am.

983
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 3: We got to get in front of the email here. Yes,

984
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 3: there have been experiments that are true where people are

985
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: taking dead bird bodies and using them as drones. They're

986
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 3: putting drone technology. That is true.

987
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh birds and their you know realness. That's it's been

988
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: an age old thing.

989
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 3: Give me a bird anytime over the sinastagia pokes out, man,

990
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: anytime over a truckloaded jewels. Count me out for that one.

991
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: I'll be I'll do the keyboard stuff for that one.

992
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: But you know, I think you should have been. Hey, guys,

993
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: have we done a full Cicadas episode? I know we

994
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: did three three o one, but did we deal a

995
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: full episode on Cicadas?

996
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 4: We have not.

997
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: Cicada thirty three oh one. Is it was an online

998
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: cryptic kind of possibly ar game. We talked in twenty

999
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: twenty one. I think about another brood of cicadas, and

1000
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: just recently there was something making the news and it's

1001
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 3: sad hilarious.

1002
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 4: He's talking about those horny dead mofos.

1003
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, hyper sexual quote zombie cicadas. I don't think we

1004
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: have time to really unpack this. This is why I'm

1005
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: saying I kind of want to just talk about hyper

1006
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 2: sexual zombie cicadas for a full forty five minutes with y'all,

1007
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: but just because I think it would be fun. Sure,

1008
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 2: But you know, I guess let's just put this out there.

1009
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 2: You can find articles on this right now. CBS News

1010
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 2: is Kaitlin o'caine wrote about this specifically on April fifth,

1011
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: and it's talking about these weird std fungus layden cicadas

1012
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 2: that are going to be emerging as part of these

1013
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: two major broods, Brood nineteen and Brewed thirteen. They're coming

1014
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: out in like the southeast here in Georgia, and then

1015
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 2: I think the other one is coming out in like

1016
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: a bit north from here. But these are two massive

1017
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: broods of cicadas that come out every thirteen or seventeen years,

1018
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: and unfortunately, when they go into the ground, they burrow

1019
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: down there for all that time, thirteen or seventeen years.

1020
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: They they get infected with this fungus and it's on

1021
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: the back like the sexual parts of the cicadas, and

1022
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: it basically it basically takes off a piece of their

1023
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: body and then a plug, what is called a fungal

1024
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: plug emerges. This white looking, nasty, mushroom like thing comes out.

1025
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: And this fungus has amphetamines that get released into the

1026
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: cicada system, which make it, I guess. According to this article,

1027
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: it says it gives them stamina, which you know, we're

1028
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: not talking sexual here. It just means they're excited about

1029
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: life in a weird way.

1030
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: It does make them hypersexual. That's the reason they're getting

1031
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: up in the first place. Massive Papora cicadena I think

1032
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: it's called.

1033
00:57:53,920 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: Yes, massive propora cicadeena, which as a baby but yeah,

1034
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: massive masso po massospora.

1035
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: Sic adina. Yeah. Shout out to Miles jack Over on

1036
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 3: Daily's Eeichgeist. Miles hit me to this. The last time

1037
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 3: these two broods emerged at once, it was the year

1038
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: of the Louisiana purchase. So this is like a big deal,

1039
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: like a total total eclipse of the suden. But it's

1040
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: like a fungus. But I don't know, man, it's gonna

1041
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: be weird. We live in Georgia, so should we stay

1042
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: inside or what do you think?

1043
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: Well, just so the cicada's emerging is one thing on

1044
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,479
Speaker 2: its own, right, and that is one like, Oh my god,

1045
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna be loud. These things can hurt your hearing.

1046
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: They are so loud, which is already horrifying. And they're

1047
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: going to be in your backyard if you live in

1048
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: the southeast, and a lot of them just bad. Yeah,

1049
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: because they're they're going to It is mating times. They

1050
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: come out, they emerge to mate, and then they go

1051
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: back in the earth and they hang out for a while.

1052
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: They come back and they just get it on again.

1053
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: But with this STD like fungus, and it's STD like

1054
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: because it's spread in the same way because they don't

1055
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: actually have sexual organs anymore if they are infected, so

1056
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: they cannot mate, but they rub the fungal plugs what

1057
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: once were their mating bits on each other and it

1058
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: spreads the fungus and now more and more of them

1059
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: have it. It is really it's messed up too. It

1060
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: makes the males that are infected do the mating rituals

1061
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: that the females do in order to get other males

1062
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: to come down and again just rub up against the fungus.

1063
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: So it is like it's it reminds me of some

1064
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: of these minds controlling other funguses that we've talked about

1065
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: in the past, Like.

1066
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 4: Last of Us Man is exactly that's what Last of

1067
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 4: a Zombies were based on.

1068
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, it's really creepy. The scariest thing is

1069
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: something that has not been proven yet but is a possibility.

1070
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: In the same way when we talked about the zombie

1071
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: deer disease pretty recently on the show. It is not zoonotic.

1072
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: It is not jumped from cicada to other things yet,

1073
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: specifically humans, not jumped to us yet. But there are

1074
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: there are a ton of other species of various shapes

1075
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: and sizes and forms that eat these cicadas, like as

1076
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: a oh my gosh, it is buffet time, y'all, let's

1077
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: eat cicadas. Look how many there are. They are going

1078
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: to be ingesting this fungus, and it is unknown how

1079
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: it is going to affect certain species.

1080
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: We could say it's a non zero chance technically true,

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Speaker 3: but that's always The risk with so fungus is amazing.

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Speaker 3: You've heard of previous episodes on it. Humans still have

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Speaker 3: a lot to learn about fungus and the question of

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Speaker 3: whether these so this thing probably will not will not

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Speaker 3: traverse the zoonotic gap just because it is so specifically

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Speaker 3: adapted to the cicada. How Ever, there's always a chance.

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Speaker 2: Oh agreed that this whole concept of spending thirteen or

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Speaker 2: seventeen years underground in the soil is what I think

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Speaker 2: you're talking about, so specific to that life cycle of

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Speaker 2: being underground, dormant, away from basically everything but the soil

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Speaker 2: and the biological material of that cicada. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's going to It won't work well on a creature

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Speaker 2: that's in the sunlight, you know, most of the time.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Well, hey, that's all I have. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you are a cicada hearing this, check your

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Speaker 3: check your back end. How's your butt? Yeah, let us know,

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Speaker 3: check your butts. And we also want to know, want

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Speaker 3: to know your reaction to these high stories. Unfortunately speak

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Speaker 3: of a heist. A lot of people have encountered identity

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Speaker 3: theft in some way. Last, but not least, please don't

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Speaker 3: dig up people to do to use their bodies in drugs.

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Speaker 2: For the moment.

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Speaker 4: God where I think we're agreed on at least that, folks,

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Speaker 4: for yucks. It's a jerk move.

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Speaker 3: Or for profit, you know what I mean. It's okay

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