1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: We're taking you inside the mind of a man. This 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: is how Men thick and I heard radio podcast. Hi guys, 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: some Hunter March and you're listening to How Men Think, 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: where basically I'm going to unveil what I can without 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: being excommunicated by my people's you know what though, honestly, 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't really care about them. Men are the worst, 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: right So I'm gonna give you all the down and 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: dirty secrets. If you guys don't know who I am. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: I host a show on e called Nightly Pop and 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: I host a show on Netflix called Sugar Rush. So 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: I hope you uh enjoy this episode. I'm looking forward 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: to answering your questions. But before I do that, let 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: me do eleven questions about myself. So the first one 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: is what are you known for? Tell us about yourself. Um, well, 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: besides those two shows, I think I'm known for my 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: breakfast skillets. It's something that I've made for quite a 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: few people. So women, some very lucky women, have stayed 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: the night. We'll start this off right now with this stand. 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: The night's a tricky one. I am. I have a 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: king bed for this reason. I don't want to really 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: be touching in the evening. And it's not because I 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: don't like the person, It's it's the opposite. I like 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: them so much that it's going to distract me from sleeping. 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: Let's get into the next one. Who are you in 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: your personal life? But what a lot of people don't 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: know about me is that outside of my personality on 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: television and in my podcast with Paris Hilton, this is Paris. 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: Uh what I didn't know. What people don't know about 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: me is that I'm pretty reserved, like in my personal 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: life and and I deal with you know, the same 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: anxiety and other things that a lot of people deal it. 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: But I have used my humor and everything to kind 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: of compensate. And uh So, so if you really get 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: to know me in my personal life, it's still funny 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: and it's still jokes, but you realize that it's there's 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: also a deeper side of me where I like to 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: cook and paint and garden. Um And if you're watching 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: the video, you can see some of my paintings behind me, 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: So go check that out. Uh. Three shows that I'm 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: binge watching right now, I'm binge watching Get Back the 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: Beatles documentary on Disney Plus. I just I've never seen 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: such brilliant people collaborate in such a cool way. And 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: as someone who's starting my own YouTube channel back up 44 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: and I have hired somebody and we're collaborating every day. 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: I literally showed my employee. I was like, this is 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: what I want us to be like it is like 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: the Beatles, which I realized I'm asking this young guy 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: who I started working with a week ago. I'm like, 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: how come you're not my lenin right now? But I, 50 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's I'm binge watching that. I'm also binge 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: watching um Attack on Titan, which is an anime show 52 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: I don't never watch. May my brother was like, you 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: should check it out. My brother likes anime and I 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: watched it and it's really good. It's an intense show, 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: but it's good. And then the final thing that I'm 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: binge watching is um a lot of YouTube. I'm getting 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: back into YouTube right now, so I watch a lot 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: of YouTube videos. I love YouTube. It's how I started 59 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: in this industry. And um, yeah, what is my favorite food? Well, 60 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: I already mentioned breakfast skillets and that would be my 61 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: favorite food. I love all breakfast. I just started doing 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: a it's a very French way of of scrambling eggs. 63 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: But basically you do a super slow scramble in butter, 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: like the eggs should barely be cooking as you're whisking 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: them slowly. Let me do this seductively, whisk those eggs 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: so slowly. Not with a whisk. Instead, take a small spatula, 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: a spoon even, and just slowly push it around the pan, 68 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: letting the butter seep into every crevice of those runny, 69 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: runny eggs. Then, is it's cooking up, don't add the 70 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: salt yet, Get your hand off the salt. We're gonna 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: place that over a nice piece of sour dough that's 72 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: got a thin layer of butter on it. Butter's your friend, 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: not your enemy. Then we're gonna top it with chopped 74 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: chives and thinly sliced smoked salmon chopped up as well, 75 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna add ourselves a finishing flake salt, 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of pepper, and a dash of olive 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: oil on top. Oh my god, I'm trying so hard. Um, 78 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: all right, let's let's move on. But that that is 79 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: an enjoyable food for me, right now. Tell us about 80 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: your career. Well, I'm very lucky with my career I've been. 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: I started as an intern for this company called Awesome's TV, 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: which was a YouTube channel, and I had my own 83 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: little YouTube channel, but you know, it wasn't anything that 84 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: was paying any bills. And when I got the job 85 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: at Awesomeness, I just grinded and grinded for like five, six, 86 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: seven years and eventually became the face of the channel. 87 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: And then I was hosting, probably hosted thousands of videos 88 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: for them, and I told myself, I was like, Oh, 89 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be cool to be on TV? And then 90 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: I got a game show network show, and then all 91 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: my friends were all I was like, you guy should 92 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: watch this show. And they're like, we don't have cable 93 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, that makes it hard to 94 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: watch the show. Neither did I at the time, so 95 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't even watch my own show. And then Netflix 96 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: called Netflix, was like, we want you to do this 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: baking show called Sure Rush, and I was like absolutely. 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: Did not tell them that I was gluten intolerant until 99 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: season three, um, and then uh, that only shot for 100 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks a year, and then we were done. 101 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: I said, how cool would it be to get a 102 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: show that I could shoot every day, and then Nightly 103 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: Pop came around, which we shoot four days week and 104 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: it's been a dream. And we're about to hit episode 105 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: five hundred of that show, which is just so rare 106 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: and television. I'm so blessed my entire career. I'm very 107 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: thankful for. And uh, yeah, what's my biggest fear in life? Um, 108 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: it's it's between two different things I really don't like, uh, 109 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: the idea of bones breaking, Like I don't want to 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: get hurt. I hate getting hurt. It sucks. And then 111 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: the second one is dying alone. No, if you are 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: just experiencing who I am as a person right now, 113 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: and this these eleven questions are your intro. Oh boy, 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry this is an aggressive intro. What is your 115 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: biggest pet? Peeve? My biggest I hate when people don't 116 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: say thank you, just be appreciative. It's so easy to 117 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: say thank you. I say thank you like it's you know, 118 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: candy on Halloween. I give it to everybody. I don't care, like, 119 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: thank you for so simple. Someone holds a door if like, 120 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: a guy holds a door open for me on my 121 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: way into Starbucks, and I'm like more than five feet away. 122 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: I literally look at dead in the Hind I go, 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: thank you so much, man, that was nice, just because 124 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: I just think and so like, if I ever take 125 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: a girl out to dinner, I don't mind. I always 126 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: love paying. I I believe in that I should pay 127 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: just because I asked a person on a date. Um, 128 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: if they don't say thank you, it just it rubs 129 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: me the wrong way. It's it's last date. Um. What 130 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: makes you the most happy? I think making my family 131 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: laugh makes me the most happy. You know. I think 132 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: getting to do what I do. I get the chance 133 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: to try and joke around for a lot of people, 134 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: and luckily I get to do it day and day out. 135 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: But there's nothing like seeing my dad or my mom laugh, 136 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: or my brother laugh a lot at something. It really 137 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: makes me happy. What is your ideal Saturday morning? UM? 138 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Ideal Saturday morning would be waking up already off to 139 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: a good start, better than it could have been. Um. 140 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Then making a really yummy breakfast, hanging out with my 141 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: dog Lucy, taking her on a walk, doing a workout, 142 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: but preferably playing a sport like paddle, tennis or basketball, 143 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: all in the backyard. Something to just get the left flowing, 144 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: and then again hanging out with friends I love and 145 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: going to the beach or doing something. Yeah, and work, 146 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: I do love work. I'm very lucky that I like 147 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: my job, so i'd get some editing done or some producing. 148 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: Are you more of the athlete or the armschare quarterback? 149 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: The thing is neither. Really, I'm athletic, but nobody's calling 150 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: me saying, hunter, we need a fifth on the on 151 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: the court. It's just not happening. I'm good, I've played 152 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: sports my whole life, but I'm not that good. And 153 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: then the armshair quarterback. Now, I don't care about other 154 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: grown men. I don't get invested like that. I hosted 155 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl party. I had you know, sixty seventy 156 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: people at the house, and I watched maybe twenty five 157 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: seconds of the game. I rather, I just enjoyed having 158 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: people over and and taking care of them more than 159 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the sports. And finally, what keeps you motivated? 160 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: It's mostly money. Um, just the ability to accrue wealth, 161 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: hold it over people with less wealth and kind of 162 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: dictate their lives and in the way that I see fit. 163 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Because I have so much money, that would be that 164 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: would be not it. I'm kidding. What keeps me motivated? 165 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: I I get I've gotten some opportunities to work with 166 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: UH people who have disabilities with this company called Ability First, 167 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: this program called Ability First, and got to teach painting 168 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: classes and stuff like that. And seeing them excited about 169 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: the guy from Sugar Rush is like the only time 170 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be the guy from sugar Rush. So 171 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: doing that getting people excited to like go try cooking 172 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: or get excited to try and make some jokes and 173 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: be funny, that's exciting to me. Anyway. Those are the 174 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: eleven questions with me. Now we're going to get into 175 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: some callers, but before we do that, we're gonna say 176 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: a quick break. Welcome back. I hope you guys bought 177 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: all those products. Let's go ahead and talk to our 178 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: first caller. Hi, how's it going good? How are you? 179 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm fantastic, is it, Mara? Yes? It is all right, Maura. Well, 180 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear more of you right now. So 181 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: what's your question? Okay? So, um I am born and 182 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: raised in southern California and I have loved growing up here. 183 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: It's very beautiful, but um in l A unfortunately, UM 184 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: I feel like, especially with like social media, like it's 185 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: really hard to find someone who's not like looking for 186 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: the best, shiniest, most perfect person. Which brings me to 187 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: my question, Um, Like, I mean in l A, where 188 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: there's like actresses and models and Instagram influencers, how does 189 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: a normal girl who is an in the industry stand out? 190 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: It's a great question because one, I don't think it's 191 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: as valid as as some people fear, you know, like 192 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: there are is much as l A is known for 193 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: the glitz and glamour, the people here are still you know, 194 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: like I consider myself one of those normal people, Like 195 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't consider myself I don't go out to the 196 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: parties or the clubs. I don't meet people that way. Um, 197 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: when what have I what have I been doing to 198 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: meet people? So what are you saying? Are you do 199 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: you want to know how to meet people or how 200 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: to stand out at Do you already like go to 201 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: places and you just want to stand out at those places? Um? 202 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: I guess a little bit of both, a little bit 203 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: of both, but especially I think, um, I just feel 204 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: like I don't stand out. I just feel like I 205 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: can't compare it to these like women I don't know. Well, 206 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: first of all, these women can't even compare to themselves, 207 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, like the Instagram look and the TikTok and 208 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: obviously when they're on TV and in the movies or whatever, 209 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: if there musicians, it's it's so much is put into 210 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: building an image that really isn't them, and I think 211 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: they obviously are aware of that. And then in the 212 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: same with men, they all kind of put this image up. 213 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: But what a lot of people don't realize is like 214 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: that goes away and then you are stuck with the 215 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: real person. And if the real person is great, whether 216 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: it's um, someone who's really smart or really funny or 217 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: just really genuine. I love authenticity in a partner almost 218 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: more than I love anything else. Um, you you'll stand 219 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: out to the right person. Undoubtedly. The thing that happens 220 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: in l A is, and it happens with men and women. 221 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: They come to l A looking for something better than themselves, right, 222 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: because a lot of people who come to l A 223 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: want something. They want to be famous or successful, and 224 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: if they don't have that yet, they do anything to 225 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: elevate their status. But at some point you meet a 226 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: guy or a woman who isn't who doesn't need to 227 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: like date somebody or do something for the cloud for 228 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: lack of a less disgusting word, And you mean someone 229 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: who's ready to meet someone genuine And I'm at that 230 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: stage in my life now where, um, I don't need 231 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: to date someone in the industry by any means. I 232 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: would love to date somebody who I met getting coffee 233 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: who had nothing to do with this industry. And ah, 234 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: just made me laugh. That's it. So you know, I'm 235 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: still single, so I think we're probably in the same 236 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: boat more. I don't know if that answers your question. 237 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: It does. Actually, that made me feel a lot better, um, 238 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: because you're I mean, I'm at the end of the day, 239 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking for authenticity too, So yeah, I mean I 240 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: would actually, you know, just kind of be thankful that 241 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: you haven't gotten stuck with one of the guys who's 242 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, like I always the one thing I would 243 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: not want for one of my friends or families for 244 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: them to be with somebody who, especially like in l 245 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: A where they're just in it for the wrong reasons. 246 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: It's so common, um, And I think like you, being 247 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: single and obviously being aware of this industry in this 248 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: world means You're already leaps and bounds above a lot 249 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: of other people who come here, so I think you'll 250 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: find the right person for sure, just a matter of 251 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: In terms of meeting people. I love going to some 252 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: of these, like group classes and stuff like that, whether 253 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: it's painting or cooking or even workout classes. Sometimes it's 254 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: odd to go up to somebody, but if you if 255 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: you here's the thing. If a guy's single and you're 256 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: single and there's an attraction, all you have to do 257 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: is look at him twice and he'll come up to 258 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: if he if he wants to. You know, it's not 259 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: about the big aggressive move, but um, you can or 260 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: you just go up to me whatever you want. But yeah, anyway, 261 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I hope that helps much. I love that it really did. 262 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Now you're welcome. Thank you all right, 263 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: Bye bye, Hilarissa, Hi Hunter, how's it going. Everything's good. 264 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: I hear you have a question. I do so obviously, 265 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: with the state of the world over the past two years, 266 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: I haven't had many dating opportunities, so I'm ready to 267 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: get back in there, you know. But nowadays I really 268 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: don't know how the game is played, and I really 269 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: don't want to play games anymore so. Growing up, I 270 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: was taught to play hard to get, so you know, 271 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: that was supposed to keep a guy's attention or keep 272 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: his interest. And I kind of feel like that's the 273 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: wrong kind of attention these days, and it brings the 274 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: wrong kind of men, Like is this still a thing? 275 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Like how much hard to get do you play? What 276 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: if you're tired of playing games? What are the rules 277 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: in twenties one? You too? And what's the best way 278 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: to date? Yeah? I wish that I was smarter so 279 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: that I didn't fall for the hard to get thing 280 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: all the time. But boy, oh boy, when a girl 281 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: is hard to get, my monkey brain turns on and 282 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: I am I it does affect it. But then eventually, 283 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: hard to get means that at some point you still 284 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: have the chance of getting to the point of a relationship, 285 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: right do you get past the games? And if I 286 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna like in the beginning when you weren't playing 287 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: hard to get, I'm not gonna like you after we're 288 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: done playing hard to get? You know? So I think 289 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: like it does work unfortunately on a lot of guys 290 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: and on women too, Like I've played it accidentally, just 291 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: in times where like I started talking to a girl 292 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: and it just happened to be the busiest two weeks 293 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: of my life. And and then afterwards we'll be talking. 294 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: She's like, I really thought you didn't like me, like 295 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: I thought, And I was like, no, no, no no, no, 296 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: I was busy, but I understood that it is attracted 297 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: of um to be busy. And I think that that's 298 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: the difference. You shouldn't be hard to get. To be 299 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: hard to get, you should be prioritizing yourself and your 300 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: job and your hobbies and your friends and your family 301 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: before any guy can come into your life and destruct 302 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: any of that. And when you are doing that, you're 303 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: not playing hard to get. You just are a little 304 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: harder to get. But it's all while just again making 305 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: sure that you are putting you first in the healthiest 306 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: way possible. UM. I think the better way to look 307 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: at it would be like, look at the antithesis of that, 308 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: which should be to just be constantly available for virtually 309 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: a stranger. Doesn't matter if you've got a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, ten, dates, 310 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: that person is still a stranger for the most part. UM, 311 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: So you know, it's not about again, it's not about games, 312 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: but everybody likes someone who's who's working on them. Everybody 313 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: likes somebody who's busy, successful, career driven in so that 314 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: I hope that answers that question about that. But in 315 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: terms of the other games of of of dating right now, 316 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: I think people are a little tired of games. I 317 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: think we've been in a pandemic for too long where 318 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: if you don't like games, now it's kind of the 319 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: chance to date because people just want to cut to 320 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: the to the meat of a relationship and kind of 321 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: have somebody, especially if we've been single for the past, 322 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, two years of isolation. Yes, is that you've 323 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: been single for the pandemic or did you have someone 324 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: to so you at this point? What are you looking for? Mostly? 325 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: I mean just something that can start off as a 326 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: good strong friendship, good common interests, and something that has 327 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to blossom into more, but without the uncertainty 328 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: like is this person really into me? Am I wasting 329 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: my time? Like I understand what you were saying about 330 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: prioritizing yourself and I totally agree with that, um, but 331 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: you also want to know like this that we're both 332 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: on the same page and we're both moving forward and 333 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: we're open to more, but taking it slow and also 334 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: knowing where we're going as opposed to being totally confused 335 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: on what's going on. Yeah, I think having the conversation again, 336 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't negate the hard to get It doesn't. It 337 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: doesn't stop like that when you have that conversation. I 338 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: was talking to a girl recently and I was I 339 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: liked her, and I told her on the phone because 340 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: we were both really busy. She went back to New York. 341 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: I was in l A And on the phone, I 342 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: just was kind of like, you know, it's nice talking 343 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: to you. I enjoy it because I got a little crush. 344 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: You know, saying you have a little crush is and 345 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: isn't a bad thing. Again, It's it's not like I 346 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: want you to date me. I'm gonna take over your life. 347 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: It's not that. You know, you can still put those 348 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: little signs out there. And I think when you put 349 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: those little signs out there, if you're being really really objective, 350 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: you know what signs you get back. There are times 351 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: where some guy will say something and you're like, what 352 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: was that. Does that means that mean he's into me? 353 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: Or does that mean he's not into me, and usually 354 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: if you have to really ask, it means he's not 355 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: giving you what you're given him. Yeah, you know, like 356 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: in my mind, a guy and a woman both should 357 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: make it somewhat known after the second, third, fourth, fifth 358 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: date that there's interest. Otherwise you wouldn't be going on 359 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: these dates. You know, you wouldn't be on the fifth 360 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: date if you weren't into them. So you know, again, 361 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: it's not about jump in the line and basically saying 362 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: I love you or you know, on date two. But 363 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: you can let him know and see what his responses. 364 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: Just say something like I enjoy spend time with you, 365 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: because that could be anything. But if he goes yeah, 366 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: you're like it's like my sister, you know, you're like, 367 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: all right, I'm out of here. But if he goes, 368 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: I jest, I want to spend more time with you. 369 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: Then hopefully that calms that anxiety that we all get 370 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: when we date, you know, like do they like me 371 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: as much as I like them? Blah blah blah. So 372 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: I think I think there's little ways to do it 373 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: with where you're not putting it all on the table, 374 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: and it's like doing little litmus tests and seeing if 375 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: if their feedback gives you the answers you're looking for. Absolutely, 376 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: that's great advice. Thank you, You're welcome. Everybody's saying it's 377 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: great advice, which makes me wonder if you were told 378 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: to say it's great advice at the end of each 379 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: of these calls. And that laugh makes me think that 380 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: that's the case, that was genuine. Okay, well, thank you, Leisa. 381 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: Uh let me know how it goes damn me afterwards. 382 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm ready to put it to the test. All right, 383 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: nice bye bye. Hi Stephanie, Hi are you? I'm good. 384 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: I love your voice. Thank you. I think like just 385 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: being separated by the zoom and only hearing the voice. 386 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm painting the most stunning image of like you and 387 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: where you are. It's like buy a fire somewhere and 388 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: in there's snow outside. I don't know why I envisioned 389 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 1: that very cozy thoughts. Yes, yeah, well Stephanie, what can 390 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: I answer for you? Well, um, so I was hanging 391 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: out with my boyfriend last night and mind then to 392 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: everything I said earlier, I mean you can still have 393 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: that thought, all right. Um. We were hanging out and 394 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: he got a couple of text messages from a group message, 395 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: which he's in a few groups, so it wasn't strange 396 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: or anything, but I did ask him what group it was, 397 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: and he said it was a bunch of his guy friends. 398 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: They have a group message where they message each other 399 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: about relationships, stuff like problems in their relationship or positives 400 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: in their relationship. They basically just ask each other a 401 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: bunch of advice. And I thought, wow, like, do you 402 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: guys really do this? Is this more than just these 403 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: guys or like I know, with my girlfriends, I text 404 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: each one of them and we over text and over 405 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: share and all that stuff. But me curious and a 406 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: little fascinated on the subject of do guys have group 407 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: messages like this? Is it something I should worry about 408 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: what he's sharing? Is the over sharing her personal details? 409 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: Or is it just quote unquote lacker room talk or 410 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: something like that. Or Yeah, it's tough for me to 411 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: know because I unless you're dating the most emotionally intelligent, 412 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: vulnerable straight man on the planet and all of his 413 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: friends are that guy as well, it's not the same 414 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: conversations you're having with your girlfriends. Yeah, um, I think 415 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: I've had those conversations, but like one on one with 416 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: a guy friend, and I've like been very vulnerable where 417 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't like this feeling at all about 418 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: telling him something that I'm dealing with. It makes me 419 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: uncomfortable and I just need someone to talk to. But 420 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sending that in a group chat, and I 421 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: don't think he is either, Like I don't think he's 422 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: saying anything that you should necessarily worry about. But I 423 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: think he may have powdered and put some lipstick on 424 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: that group chat so that it didn't sound as probably 425 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: a crude as it might be with his friends. More so, 426 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: maybe his single friends or um other people kind of 427 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: talking about that stuff, Like I don't know. I mean, again, 428 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know your boyfriend. Maybe he is that guy, 429 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: but he's really nice and he's really sweet, Like we 430 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: have great communication, he's my best friend. We talked about 431 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, so you know, I can't imagine 432 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: something he would reach out to a bunch of his 433 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: guys friends for that would be like, I don't know 434 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: something big, I don't know. This is why I'm calling 435 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: in really, because we can talk about a lot of things. 436 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: And who would you ask a panel of five of 437 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: your friends, like what would you ask them about, unless 438 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: it was something funny or unless I like, was weak 439 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: or you know, something like that. But then I wonder, 440 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: is it that deep? Do they do? You all have 441 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: these deep connections and these similar issues that you deal 442 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: within relationships that you seek out a panel of your 443 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: closest buddies. I just I think it's funny that I'm 444 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: imagining him and his five friends sitting on shares on 445 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: the view talking and having a show doing it, and 446 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: it's just not the view. What they're talking about is 447 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: not in my mind. Again, I could be wrong, but 448 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: I think it's probably closer to locker room talk. I 449 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: don't think again, if you have that was my next question, 450 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: Do you guys have a good open dialogue? And if 451 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: the answers yes, what you said it is, then I 452 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: don't think you have anything to worry about. I think 453 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: men go to their friends and put a male spin 454 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: on the conversation, whether it becomes again a little bit 455 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: less vulnerable maybe instead of being like, oh, she hurt 456 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: me because she didn't uh say that she liked my outfit, whatever, 457 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: they might come to their friends and be like, you 458 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: like this, look right, yeah, step says she hated it. 459 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: And I was like, what the you know, it's like 460 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: guys talk like that to their friends that they don't 461 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: have to admit that. Like, oh, it hurt me when 462 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: she said this. As long as he's not like reaching 463 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: out and being like this crazy woman that I'm with, 464 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: she's ridiculous because I mean, I know he's not. He 465 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: and I, like I said, we talked about everything. We 466 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: joke a lot. Um yeah, that's what I'm picturing, is 467 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: like she yelled at me for wearing another plaid shirt 468 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: or something. Just all you have to do is go 469 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: into his phone and search in his messages for crazy 470 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: girl and plaid shirt and you'll know pretty quick. Um yeah. 471 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: I mean you can always ask him like hey, you 472 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: just be really vulnerable with him. Again. I love vulnerability 473 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: and relationship because it gives the other person nowhere to 474 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: go besides the truth, right, Like if you if you 475 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: kind of came out of in an accusatory way or 476 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: from a place of just like mistrust, it's different than 477 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: being than going to him and saying, hey, by the way, 478 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: Ever since you said the thing about the group chat, 479 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 1: it's been on my mind and I just I'm like 480 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: a little nervous that like, I don't know why, and 481 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe I'm being a little um, a little cuckoo, 482 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: but it's just been on my mind. See what he says, 483 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: Because if it was me and the group chat really 484 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: had nothing bad about my partner, I would say, take 485 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: a look at the group chat whatever you want. Yeah, 486 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: it struck me that it was like we talk about 487 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: our relationships, and I was like, the hell do you 488 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: talk about literally Yeah, I mean, did you ask him 489 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: to see it? I mean no, when if I did, 490 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: he would probably absolutely show it to me. But I 491 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: also we provide each other with space for growth, and 492 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: if he wants to have privacy with his guy friends, like, 493 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: that's cool. But I don't know. I just can see 494 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: us all at a party coming up, you know, and 495 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: and all of us girls seeing around and me being like, 496 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: oh my god, they have this group message, and I 497 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: just don't want to be confronted by anything surprising. And 498 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: I also don't want to be in a situation with 499 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: all these friends where I'm like, oh, you know about 500 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: my private parts or oh you know about like all 501 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: of this. And I'm sure that they do know some 502 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: of those things, but I was just curious to know 503 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: if it was a common thing for guys to have 504 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: group messages like this, well, again, this is just personal experience. 505 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: But if it was with a girl that I actually 506 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: really liked, that like my family and friends had met, 507 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: if my friends know the girl, I never share details 508 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: about our personal life like that, like anything about private 509 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: parts or sex capades or whatever it is like that 510 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: just that doesn't come up because it's so private. But 511 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: if if I just got back from a trip to 512 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: New York and I come back and talk to my 513 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: friends with without showing them a picture of telling them 514 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: a name, I will share those details a little bit 515 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: more the way guys do. So as a girl friend 516 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: who seems to be with a great guy, and you 517 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: seem to be a great girl, I don't think you 518 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: have anything to worry about. I don't think he's sharing 519 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: those details hopefully, But again, you can always ask, because 520 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: if he is, that is an invasion of your privacy 521 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: and it'll just lead to mistrust and it's not it's 522 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: not fair to you, So feel free to ask a question. 523 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: But I also think if you trust him, you don't 524 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: even have to worry about it. Well, thank you, that's 525 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: a really great advice. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Enjoy 526 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: the rest of your day, Stephanie. Enjoy that fireplace on 527 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: that bear skin rug um in the mountains with my cocoa. 528 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Get out of your stuff. You're distracting all right. Bye? Bye. 529 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: Hi Sassia, Hi, how are you good? How are you today? 530 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm good? What's uh? What's your question? So? I have 531 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: a large group of friends, and I guess we're just, 532 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, pretty closely acquainted, knowing each other from college. 533 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: So I mean, we have our own opinions about one another, 534 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: and we have a couple in particular, they've been through 535 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot of ups and downs. So I am a 536 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: little concerned for their relationship. It just doesn't seemed to 537 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: be going well. It feels like it's time for them 538 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: to go their separate ways. But I just don't know 539 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: how to approach this. Um. Yeah, it's really toxic as 540 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: far as their relationship goes. And I just don't even 541 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: know how to start this conversation with them. Are you 542 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: closer with either of them? I'm probably closer with her. 543 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: She's like we knew each other before we met. She 544 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: met him and started dating him. And have you talked 545 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: to be honest right now, Stacie, have you talked to 546 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: any of the other girls or guys in the group 547 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: about this toxic relationship. Um, there's definitely been some talks 548 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: with uh, you know, amongst most of us. Uh, just none, 549 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: None of us have really approached this with them, and 550 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: we just feel like, you know, they're always walking on 551 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: egg shells. One day they're perfectly fine, the other day 552 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: they're in a heated argument. The consensus what's your friend's 553 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: consensus on whether or not you should say, we have 554 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: all kind of come to the conclusion and one of 555 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: us need to step up and definitely have this this 556 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: conversation with them and just make it known to them 557 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: like that this is not a way to have a relationship. 558 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: There's probably a better out there for them both to 559 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: to just have a healthy relationship with Yeah, I mean, 560 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: I think it would not be a bad thing to do, 561 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: especially if if there is like a consensus among the 562 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: friend group. Not bringing that up obviously because you don't 563 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: want them to know that, you know, you kind of 564 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: speaking behind their back, even if it is for their 565 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: best intentions. But if maybe you went to the girl 566 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: privately obviously not to the couple as a whole and 567 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: said like, hey, are you happy with so and so 568 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: are you and maybe trying to see if they'll come 569 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: to you first and open up to you first before 570 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: you bring it to them, you know, so it doesn't 571 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: seem like you are kind of instigating, uh, a tricky conversation. 572 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: So if you went to them and you said, how's 573 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: everything was, so and so I noticed you guys weren't 574 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: talking really at the last event, or I noticed that 575 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: you didn't come to this thing. Is everything okay? And 576 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: maybe if you put out the energy like hey, I 577 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: want to help you, if that person wants to be helped, 578 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: I think they'll they'll pick up on that energy and 579 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: they will go ahead and do the right thing and 580 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: and have a conversation with you. But some people are 581 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: so stuck in their own bubble or they're embarrassed. A 582 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: lot of people are embarrassed by unhealthy relationships and then 583 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: they'll never bring it up because it's almost like admitting 584 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: that they've failed. Like some people feel like if they're 585 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: in an unhealthy relationship that they've failed, which is obviously 586 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: not the case. Um So if that's the case, if 587 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: they're not giving, if she's not giving, you anything you 588 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: want in terms of a response or an openness to 589 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: talk about it. You can just say, by the way, 590 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: I have seen this and this behavior, and I just 591 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: want to let you know that I think you deserve better, 592 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: whatever however you want to phrase it. But I don't 593 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: think that's a conversation that you should avoid having because 594 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: it could be the light bulb switch that they need 595 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, I'm not crazy for 596 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: thinking that I was in this thing. And how come 597 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: none of my friends have mentioned it? Do they all 598 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: think that this relationship is better than it is? Am 599 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: I the one who's wrong here? There's that opportunity, there's 600 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: that potential too, So I think you should have the conversation. Yeah, 601 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: for sure, she's definitely want to isolate herself whenever she 602 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: becomes angry with him and they're in an argument. So 603 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: I definitely sense that, and I think when, like I 604 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: bring it up to her, it will be in that 605 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: moment just like, hey, you feel this way right now, 606 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: so you know this is clearly not a healthy relationship. 607 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: I think there's plenty of other people you could you 608 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: could be dating right now that will treat you well. 609 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: You're not walking on eggshells, feeling like everything you say 610 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: is avoiding an argument with him, So definitely something to 611 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: to bring up. I wish you the best luck with it. 612 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: I think you seem like a great friend who cares 613 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: about another person, and well that might seem obvious to you, 614 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: it is a very special quality to have a friend 615 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: too would put your happiness before their own comfort, because 616 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: there are a lot of friends out there who don't 617 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: say anything because they don't want to be uncomfortable. So 618 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: what you're doing is not only okay. I think it's 619 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: the right thing to do, and I wish you the 620 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: best of luck. Thank you, You're welcome, good luck. Let 621 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: me know how it goes. 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