Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is the new whole of
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Well, welcome to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, presented by the United States Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansons. I'm joining room. I'm just
Speaker 1: uh filled with heroes, Mark Seessler, Chris Wesley, Greg ros
Speaker 1: with thought. What is up? Boys? Hey dude, I just
Speaker 1: had an amazing conversation with a very famous X Raiders
Speaker 1: employee over the phone. Who was Amy Trask's first story
Speaker 1: working on Wow j Work, Little journal work. What's the story?
Speaker 1: I'm not what. I'm not ready to reveal what the
Speaker 1: story is about yet, but it's going to be explosive,
Speaker 1: you know what. It has been revealed. I do want
Speaker 1: to say thank you to the listeners who said they
Speaker 1: we are on episode today. It was double confirmed, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's enough. One more Yeah, a
Speaker 1: few more people check it out. But if that's true,
Speaker 1: that would in our thousand episode. Would be sometime in
Speaker 1: the off season April or May. I could figure it out,
Speaker 1: but you know, we won't do that right now. And
Speaker 1: we're already in the works of maybe doing some big
Speaker 1: time plans. Even the Shadowy League figures don't know about this.
Speaker 1: We're gonna present this idea to them of what we
Speaker 1: want to do, but thank you. I'm sure it will
Speaker 1: be met with a shrug and a yeah, let's do
Speaker 1: a follow up meeting about this, and then it will
Speaker 1: be September in week one. That that's just a guess,
Speaker 1: but maybe I'll be proven wrong. Some of the lesser
Speaker 1: enthusiastic Shadowys have been vaulted out of the company's hemisphere.
Speaker 1: Some of them vaulted themselves out of the hemisphere West.
Speaker 1: I imagine after yesterday's huge announcement that the Paramour is
Speaker 1: with Child, what a life changing experience that will be
Speaker 1: for you that you got a lot of feedback from
Speaker 1: the general general populace. I did, and I'd like to
Speaker 1: thank all of them for the messages on Twitter, the mes,
Speaker 1: sages on Instagram, text messages. Thank you all. Keisha and
Speaker 1: I are over the moon West and I had a
Speaker 1: couple of drinks of the Cozy Classy moved by the
Speaker 1: Zeuster after the move and I played baby Boy by
Speaker 1: John Lennon on the jukebox and then uh, Lukisha came
Speaker 1: in and I said, Lukisha, this is actually kind of
Speaker 1: more like a Me and West moment. So that's the
Speaker 1: way to handle your way to have the Christmas lights
Speaker 1: up there to celebrate what. No, but the woman behind
Speaker 1: the bar, which I'm sure you know her well, Mark
Speaker 1: the woman behind the bar, her husband puts up the
Speaker 1: lights every year for the past like twenty five years.
Speaker 1: And he's doing it tomorrow, I believe, or not tomorrow
Speaker 1: the day after thanks you. Oh so that's when they
Speaker 1: why don't pick stuff what we can get? It makes sense,
Speaker 1: makes sense. He's so that put the nails in the
Speaker 1: coffin for where we're going out. Cos he has been
Speaker 1: eliminated because there was a big, huge controversy over UM
Speaker 1: a text chain about the NFL media gathering for tonight
Speaker 1: UH to have some drinks on the EVA Thanksgiving a
Speaker 1: Newish tradition, and I had thrown out the cozy because
Speaker 1: we hadn't been there a lot lately, and Lakisha was
Speaker 1: pushing back and I didn't know what it was all about.
Speaker 1: There was some more misinformation because Colleen was, you know,
Speaker 1: an agent of chaos without even realizing it during the
Speaker 1: planning process, planning the event with two people and then
Speaker 1: not connecting the dots. UM but Ultimately, when I found
Speaker 1: out Lakisha is pregnant, there's you know, the cozy is
Speaker 1: that's a workingman's bar, that's a blue collar bar, that's
Speaker 1: a third shifter bar, and there a lot of guys
Speaker 1: smoking outside, and she was worried about worried about secondhand
Speaker 1: smoke wafting in. So am I gonna pound the table
Speaker 1: about the cozy with a pregnant lady? No, we found
Speaker 1: out all the theories out there in the second guessing
Speaker 1: about whether the smoke factor was a little overplayed. It's real.
Speaker 1: Keisha even yesterday spent most of the time there with
Speaker 1: her shirt over her nose, and the late period of
Speaker 1: Jackson waft of smoke every couple of seconds. Although I
Speaker 1: do love the smell of secondhand smoke and realizab we
Speaker 1: have a younger time when your buddies would be smoking
Speaker 1: around you. I I don't smoke. I never was a smoker,
Speaker 1: but I do like like the social aspect of people
Speaker 1: smoking and drinking. In theory, that's what I used to think.
Speaker 1: But then I also remember in college all my clothes
Speaker 1: smelled like smoke at all times. You would in every
Speaker 1: bar in New Orleans, And so that's that's an egg.
Speaker 1: It's a little nostalgic, but I don't know. Lukisha also
Speaker 1: mentioned that there was no food options at the cozy.
Speaker 1: Not true. I do believe they have that like big
Speaker 1: jar of like eggs and framale hyde that had been
Speaker 1: there late seventies. Picks going to college in New England.
Speaker 1: You would go back to the dorms and you'd see
Speaker 1: everyone's jackets being hung out the window in the middle
Speaker 1: of the winter. Did you get aired out from all
Speaker 1: the smoke? Uh? Anyway, memories, memories, memories should be a
Speaker 1: good night Okay you coming? I am. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: the one that suggested the place that we're actually gonna
Speaker 1: end up going. Okay, good So you played peacemaker look
Speaker 1: at you of course? Yeah? Remember you said, I all
Speaker 1: of a sudden changed my tune and you were like, oh,
Speaker 1: Lakisha must have put a knife in your tire. And
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, something something something that. What what
Speaker 1: are the odds that in the end something else comes up?
Speaker 1: For it just doesn't happen, you don't show up. I
Speaker 1: can see that personally. No, I've I've been planning on
Speaker 1: it because especially now nothing better to do. No, I
Speaker 1: have a lot. I have a lot to do, so
Speaker 1: it's a stop. It's it's stop. It's not the full
Speaker 1: night we can get. Yeah, thank you, But I would say,
Speaker 1: if you're just making it a stop, you get less
Speaker 1: say in the organization. I don't think she would agree
Speaker 1: with that concept, though, I like, I know what the
Speaker 1: people want and guess where we're going. Where I suggested
Speaker 1: all right doesn't sit with me. Well, Dan, stop by, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm going you guys are we're starting at like eight
Speaker 1: o'clock like I don't normally go out to the generation.
Speaker 1: Shut up? All right, Okay, let's get it, let's get
Speaker 1: to work. It is the show's a day earlier because
Speaker 1: of the Thanksgiving holiday. The week thirteen previews upon us.
Speaker 1: Uh tomorrow, no excuse me, Friday, you will hear the
Speaker 1: recap of the three Thanksgiving games that we previewed on
Speaker 1: yesterday's show. Mark and I will be handling those duties.
Speaker 1: But until then, we have uh more games to get to.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's over for the buys. There's no more buys.
Speaker 1: Mixed feelings about that. Thirty two teams, three games Thursday.
Speaker 1: Thanks sorry to right to thirteen to talk about correct
Speaker 1: or incorrect that's correct, I fag I've had a pretty
Speaker 1: good math season. Yeah. I mean you've done that specific
Speaker 1: problem before, probably seventy you had to slip up in
Speaker 1: London when you couldn't divide thirty eight by two while
Speaker 1: we were playing darts. I think you made it into
Speaker 1: like eighteen. That's actually a tough that's a tough one.
Speaker 1: Let's put you on the two. Ah, what it's kind,
Speaker 1: it's hard. Wait was something about it? I mean that
Speaker 1: is fair. You had enough time? Was well? I wasn't
Speaker 1: listening before study up or else. Your coworkers can make
Speaker 1: fun of you twenty years late. Greg, are you coming tonight?
Speaker 1: You get off the off the hook? No, I am gonna,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come. I'm no. I have not made any
Speaker 1: opinions made because I know my arrival time is uh
Speaker 1: in flux and my my family that's gonna come first,
Speaker 1: But then then I'll come afterwards. So I'm happy to
Speaker 1: go wherever you guys have to be be at that
Speaker 1: point on this a little late arrival. This threat has
Speaker 1: been raging for like six or seven days, and I
Speaker 1: don't think Greg and I've made a large impact on it. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get into it draft style. The order
Speaker 1: this is gonna be interesting. The order is West, Dan, Mark, Greg.
Speaker 1: We have the game of the year on the schedule.
Speaker 1: We have the biggest Browns game, and so I remember
Speaker 1: what's happening with this. We have a lot cooking. Mark,
Speaker 1: you pick third, West, Uh, you pick first, So get
Speaker 1: us going. I mean it seems to me an obvious
Speaker 1: number one overall pick pick, but perhaps not well. I
Speaker 1: thought about skipping that game just to see if the
Speaker 1: game being the Ravens and forty Niners, because there were
Speaker 1: a lot of promises and posturing going on Sunday between
Speaker 1: you and Mark about what might happen between the Jets games.
Speaker 1: You're thinking a little chaos, see what happens between Mark
Speaker 1: and Dan. But then Greg came in with a pretty
Speaker 1: strong trade offer. What he got it would be changing
Speaker 1: slots and um, which would give me back to back picks.
Speaker 1: I would only have to cover two games as well.
Speaker 1: And Greg also threw in if I have to write
Speaker 1: what we learned, he would write it for me. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to turn him down. That's the best
Speaker 1: part for two reasons, one beyond his control both of them. One,
Speaker 1: I'm not writing what we learned, So that's attempting. Part
Speaker 1: of the offer. Would have maybe thrown in something else.
Speaker 1: I thought you guys were But okay, no, there's nothing
Speaker 1: you could have done, Greg, because you have analyzed this
Speaker 1: draft in the same way I have, and you know
Speaker 1: that this is a three game draft. I just want
Speaker 1: that first game. I didn't analyze anything beyond it that
Speaker 1: I wanted to give you what I could. Yeah, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't get to watch forty Niners Ravens, but here
Speaker 1: can we We can put you in a nice Titans
Speaker 1: cult today. Nor well, so you are you going with
Speaker 1: the game we all expect, all right, very good? The
Speaker 1: forty Niners at the Ravens ten and one against nine
Speaker 1: into the Ravens, the hottest team in football and west
Speaker 1: it's in the early window. A disgrace. It's all Patriots
Speaker 1: through and everything that they didn't want to move the
Speaker 1: Pats at a prime time on Sunday night football. Uh
Speaker 1: So instead of flexing in the best game of the year,
Speaker 1: a portion of this country, we won't even get to
Speaker 1: watch this game that doesn't see doesn't pass the smell
Speaker 1: testamate and and and you want to hear something else
Speaker 1: that was Cynthia Freeland made uh this point uh this
Speaker 1: morning on our Power Ranking show. This isn't even the
Speaker 1: Joe Buck Troy Aikman game. If you believe that they
Speaker 1: are not covering this game. It is the number two team.
Speaker 1: I don't recall who they are at the top of
Speaker 1: my head. Uh. So you have Davis Kevin Burkard. Nice team,
Speaker 1: it's a very nice team. But you have the number
Speaker 1: two team in the early time slot for the best
Speaker 1: game of the year. Maybe they don't trust it will
Speaker 1: be close. Well, this is as Greg talked about on
Speaker 1: on yesterday's podcast. This Ravens team is probably the closest
Speaker 1: thing we've seen to two thousand Patriots, two thousand seven
Speaker 1: Patriots over the last two months. What they're doing to teams,
Speaker 1: the margin of victory, the convincing style in which they're
Speaker 1: beating good teams and great quarterbacks. And the forty Niners
Speaker 1: past defense is historically great too. It's right up there
Speaker 1: with the Patriots this year. Maybe not quite as good,
Speaker 1: but where is The Patriots secondary is awesome, The forty
Speaker 1: Niners front line is awesome. It's a good matchup and um,
Speaker 1: another Greg statement, styles make fights. This is a good
Speaker 1: one more two different styles. It might be the most
Speaker 1: important first quarter of the year because both teams are
Speaker 1: so good playing with the lead, less because of their
Speaker 1: how good they're running the ball, you know, we know that,
Speaker 1: but more just because they played to their past defense.
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens maybe you could run on them,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the forty Niners are gonna try. And
Speaker 1: then the forty Niners especially love to get ahead because
Speaker 1: then they can send that defensive line wild uh and
Speaker 1: shut you down. In their secondary is very good. I
Speaker 1: mean they're deep. Sherman's playing great, their safeties are playing great,
Speaker 1: Mosley plays great. If there's ever a game where Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is going to struggle throwing the ball, this is
Speaker 1: the chance. Like if they if they put up forty
Speaker 1: points on the forty Niners and their passing game is
Speaker 1: as efficient and he's as accurate as it's been, It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna stop him like this. This
Speaker 1: is the team that you would think could make them
Speaker 1: a little one dimensional and have a chance to slow
Speaker 1: it down. And I don't think this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a blow. I have too much respect for the forty nine. Well,
Speaker 1: I think losing Matt Scurrow your center is an issue
Speaker 1: for Baltimore, and that was sort of drowned out in
Speaker 1: the hoop. Love that evening it. There was a game
Speaker 1: when Cleveland beat Baltimore and you had Myles Garrett and
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon coming in off the edges. That was a
Speaker 1: game where Lamar Jackson was not very productive through the
Speaker 1: air and he was sloppy, and there were issues with
Speaker 1: their offense from wire to wire that day. But I
Speaker 1: think it's tough even if you have a great pass
Speaker 1: rush to just sort of as they say, pen your
Speaker 1: eyears back whatever that means, and fly towards Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: because he's a magician. He's suddenly seven yards to the right,
Speaker 1: galloping up field and a dog thing pen years back. Yes,
Speaker 1: I just figured that out. They do that, do no, no,
Speaker 1: I I dogs theirs get pinned back. Well that's that's
Speaker 1: a nice thing for dogs. I guess, I don't know,
Speaker 1: is it. I love this. I mean something else hidden
Speaker 1: in that last game for the dog and like painfall
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, But I don't like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly good things for dogs is what was on the
Speaker 1: show when Mark said, I don't like it. He winked,
Speaker 1: so he does like it. I don't. I'm largely like
Speaker 1: I'm largely don't think about dogs, but I wish them well.
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, Hollywood Brown has been awesome. And the le future.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you one little one, another little
Speaker 1: thing I think I love about the Ravens, so I
Speaker 1: believe it tapped into like a higher power. At this point,
Speaker 1: they now have like pat Rickard their fullback. Did you
Speaker 1: see the clip of him taking the Rams player and
Speaker 1: moving him like fifteen yards off the ball, like the
Speaker 1: whole play went somewhere else. And he is a vicious,
Speaker 1: rumbling wild man and they call it Project Pat. He
Speaker 1: goes out there and just punishes people. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: for the third week in a row, everyone's like, this
Speaker 1: is the week the Ravens are gonna be They are
Speaker 1: not going to be tested. This game will not be close.
Speaker 1: I'll be wrong. At some point, I don't think they nut.
Speaker 1: You cannot convince me the Niners, who are a great
Speaker 1: team or anywhere close to the Ravens. I just don't
Speaker 1: know how you'd convinced me of that at this Here's
Speaker 1: a good stat that kind of backs your thought on
Speaker 1: this a little bit. So I saw this on Twitter
Speaker 1: at forty Niners passer rating allowed verse eight pocket passers.
Speaker 1: It's a tick below fifty two, which is terrible. They
Speaker 1: were great for the Niners versus Russell Wilson and Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray this year. Guys that move around and make plays
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson. Only Lamar Jackson's better than both those
Speaker 1: guys doing that. The rating shoots up to one oh four.
Speaker 1: So perhaps Lamar Jackson, who's a bad match up for everybody,
Speaker 1: but especially potentially against this front seven of the Niners.
Speaker 1: Yours use of the research pack that was nice was
Speaker 1: like packet I got it off Twitter, having haven't had
Speaker 1: a lot of research packet pop this year, but they've
Speaker 1: been loved that research. Jeff Reholts, the whole team, they
Speaker 1: kill it. It's a large team now. Something that people
Speaker 1: very hard to measure in stats is tackling, and I
Speaker 1: think that was a great point that Collinsworth made on
Speaker 1: the Sunday Night game, is that this might be the
Speaker 1: best tackling team in the league. The forty Niners defense,
Speaker 1: which is very similar to the Seahawks teams over the years.
Speaker 1: Uh they teach tackling in a certain way. They don't
Speaker 1: give up a lot of yards after contact, and that's
Speaker 1: what the Ravens do better than anyone. A lot of
Speaker 1: Ingram and Jackson in the tight ends, a lot of
Speaker 1: their yards are after contact, especially in the running game.
Speaker 1: And if they can tackle well and you have George
Speaker 1: Kittle on the field, it's a different team. And I
Speaker 1: don't think it's some crazy mis mismatch. You would never
Speaker 1: give Kittle the m v P but for non quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and I know he doesn't have the numbers. It just
Speaker 1: reminds me so much of Gronk that when he's on
Speaker 1: the field, they are a completely different, more dangerous team.
Speaker 1: And he is gonna be on the field. This is
Speaker 1: like the football head, this is their dream matchup. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know enough to say if this is true,
Speaker 1: but it seems to me you have the number one
Speaker 1: scheming team run game wise versus the number one scheming
Speaker 1: team pass game wise with the forty Niners. Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: is scheming receivers open all the time. Pro Football Reference
Speaker 1: had a great stat sorry and um that they the
Speaker 1: Ravens are the first team since the fifty nine Colts
Speaker 1: to have two thousand rushing and two thousand passing yards
Speaker 1: through eleven weeks. They actually have twenty three hundred of each.
Speaker 1: So that's the first team in NFL history to do that.
Speaker 1: So when people talk about balance, it's just like there's
Speaker 1: never been a team like we're seeing something very specially
Speaker 1: with the Ravens. And that's why I have so and
Speaker 1: everybody does. But a lot of respect with the Niners
Speaker 1: been able to do this season. I just don't see
Speaker 1: how you could pick the Niners in this game. I
Speaker 1: think this the Ravens are on a special run that
Speaker 1: we're gonna remember. I think for a long time. Um,
Speaker 1: we all got the Ravens in it. I do, but
Speaker 1: I I picked the forty Niners to keep it closer
Speaker 1: than the desert. You know, the Ravens are a heavy
Speaker 1: favor in this game. I think it will be a good,
Speaker 1: good late, you know, fourth quarter type of game. West.
Speaker 1: What Jamal Adams didn't understand during that trade deadline situation was, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have the note that you have to pick. You
Speaker 1: have this beautiful game. But if some it's calling you
Speaker 1: pick up the phone. You need to hear what people
Speaker 1: are saying to you. You're not doing your job. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: So I thought you did the right move. You didn't count.
Speaker 1: You didn't give me any other offer. Who knows that
Speaker 1: maybe I would have raised it. There was no counter.
Speaker 1: It just got to the point where I looked at
Speaker 1: the four and five seeds on my board and didn't
Speaker 1: want anything to do with them. Greg's eleven it open
Speaker 1: that like maybe VENMO could have been. Yeah, how desperate
Speaker 1: was Greg for that game? Oh? I strategized. I waited
Speaker 1: till like about half an hour before the show. I
Speaker 1: didn't know what you guys are doing behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: They thought i'd I'd hit him right at the last second. Well,
Speaker 1: the same guy who predicted a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: that you'd be watching whatever game it was anyway, tweeted
Speaker 1: again that he's doubling down that Greg says he's gonna
Speaker 1: watch this game. I'm not. You can't. It depends on
Speaker 1: how many games are in the morning, and I think
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I didn't realize you could trade into the
Speaker 1: spot of the person with two games. I would have
Speaker 1: been dropping hundred dollar bills on you all season for
Speaker 1: that option. I didn't. I'm gonna get stuck with three
Speaker 1: one for the eighth time and around. You don't even
Speaker 1: have to run about him all used to do us
Speaker 1: talk about I don't know. All right, Mark, let's do
Speaker 1: some business because I'm picking two overall, and I know
Speaker 1: you want the biggest one, the biggest Browns game in
Speaker 1: a decade, decades, decades for me. So I think I
Speaker 1: have what a very fair trade offer that I think
Speaker 1: you'll you'll find appetizing. We swap the two and three picks. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take your third, you move up to two, and
Speaker 1: in return, we flip second round picks, so I moved
Speaker 1: one spot ahead of you in the next round. Uh,
Speaker 1: and a conditional pick. And the conditional pick is if
Speaker 1: I um, if this Brown's game goes to overtime, I
Speaker 1: get your first round pick next week and you get
Speaker 1: my last round pick. So this front office operates in
Speaker 1: its own way, and I'm not looking. I don't do
Speaker 1: this to just grab some game that I'm fetishizing over
Speaker 1: all week and must watch on television in our news room,
Speaker 1: which is impossible to con and trade anyways. So I
Speaker 1: will take it because all I really want is to
Speaker 1: watch the Cleveland versus Pittsburgh game. And if if you
Speaker 1: were going to go The other thing when we talked
Speaker 1: about this, and we'll be I'll be brief, was you
Speaker 1: were going to take the Browns game, and I was
Speaker 1: gonna take the Jets game. We're gonna sit a foot
Speaker 1: away from each other. Total annoyance move. And I don't
Speaker 1: like that either, So I will take your trade. I
Speaker 1: don't have the chart. I don't even see what happens
Speaker 1: down the road. You have to approved by the league office.
Speaker 1: I got lost in the conditions. Yeah, I'm very confused.
Speaker 1: It doesn't unfair, and I thank you for not calling
Speaker 1: my bluff because I wouldn't have done it to you anyway.
Speaker 1: But it's been filed with a league office. So Mark,
Speaker 1: you pick second, alright, So I'm gonna pick Jets Bengals.
Speaker 1: I am gonna obviously go Brown Steelers. And you could
Speaker 1: argue that there have been bigger games, like in two
Speaker 1: thousand seven when they had a chance to beat Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and essentially take that division or go to the playoffs
Speaker 1: with it, and they lost. Pittsburgh's a difference situation in Cincinnati, though,
Speaker 1: because the Browns Steelers rivalry essentially has not been one
Speaker 1: for a long, long long time. The Browns have not swept.
Speaker 1: Where were you in n I was in Pearl River,
Speaker 1: in the cold Town. I was a third grader. That
Speaker 1: is the last time when you were in third grade
Speaker 1: that the Browns swept the Steelers in a season. Utterly absurd.
Speaker 1: It is ridiculous. It is ridiculous, and this is going
Speaker 1: to require the Browns. I thought against Miami, you know
Speaker 1: we all watched that by now, I would imagine played
Speaker 1: the best game they've had all year on offense, because
Speaker 1: I thought against the Ravens and Greg, you noted this
Speaker 1: first thing. You're write that it was big plays that
Speaker 1: happen against Baltimore, It wasn't. Uh, you know, can drive
Speaker 1: after drive. The Browns went a little flat against Miami
Speaker 1: the second half, but they used all their weapons for
Speaker 1: the first time I've seen really this whole season. I
Speaker 1: think Kareem Hunt makes a big difference in that backfield,
Speaker 1: but they cannot afford to make some of the mistakes
Speaker 1: they made in that game. There was a hideous moment
Speaker 1: where a show pot guns snap flew by Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: They had a trick play that even had Freddie Kitchens
Speaker 1: giggling on the sideline because it was such a bust
Speaker 1: and went so wrong, and they had they did have penalties,
Speaker 1: and they did for a quarter plus go totally silent
Speaker 1: and allow Miami to control the game. In Miami nearly
Speaker 1: came back. You can't do that in Pittsburgh. I don't
Speaker 1: care if it's Duck Hodges or Joe Beats playing quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: It is a totally tough environment, and after what happened
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, the Steelers are gonna be hyper motivated.
Speaker 1: I truly think the key player to the game on
Speaker 1: defense is Joe Schobert, who has four picks in two weeks.
Speaker 1: He's been the He's not someone that gets talked about
Speaker 1: a lot. He was correctly named the a f C
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Week, and he's been the spiritual
Speaker 1: leader of that side of the ball post Myles Garrett
Speaker 1: go in, I mean, I don't want to hear anything
Speaker 1: about that. You know, Pittsburgh is a tough place to play.
Speaker 1: They got a great Devin You know that's all true.
Speaker 1: If the Browns are anywhere near being the type of
Speaker 1: team we thought they could be, and I think they've
Speaker 1: shown progress over the asked him to be in a
Speaker 1: dangerous offense. If you can't beat Duck Hodges with Jude
Speaker 1: Juice Smith Schuster and James Conner both looking like they're
Speaker 1: gonna miss this game too. We won't know until Sunday,
Speaker 1: but it's not trending in the right direction. Give me
Speaker 1: a break. This is a very winnable game. I don't
Speaker 1: care that Myles Garrett isn't there. Good offense should beat good.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry.
Speaker 1: That's that's an all star team and they're playing Hodges,
Speaker 1: Jalen Samuels, Deonte Johnson, Tevin Jones. It's no competing the
Speaker 1: old Dr Jack style. Tale of the tape come on,
Speaker 1: and he had to. He did what he had to do,
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin by keeping Mason Rudolph on the bench. Uh.
Speaker 1: It also eliminates a distraction with the um, you know,
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett fiasco around that game coming. That would I
Speaker 1: think it just would have been a talking point around
Speaker 1: the game. Uh. Hodges made one big throw and that
Speaker 1: was one more than Mason Runoff had made in several weeks.
Speaker 1: So he's the right guy to go to. I just
Speaker 1: wonder if this is going to be It's amazing and
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier in the season, Greg with this defense,
Speaker 1: what a shame it is if you're a Steelers fan
Speaker 1: that if you still had Big Ben uh And and
Speaker 1: maybe you have a little better injury luck, you you're
Speaker 1: an a f C powerhouse. But we've gotten to the
Speaker 1: point where the Pittsburgh Steelers are just living and dying
Speaker 1: on a guy that was undrafted and didn't even get
Speaker 1: an invite to the Combine. And that's what has come
Speaker 1: to for Pittsburgh. He represents a Hail Mary and all
Speaker 1: they need him to be and pray for him to
Speaker 1: be is not embarrassing, But you can't rule that out
Speaker 1: is something that could happen. It's there in his toughest
Speaker 1: spot as you can imagine, and he's playing without potentially
Speaker 1: his best wide receiver and his best running back the Brown.
Speaker 1: I mean, this should be an easy win for the Brown,
Speaker 1: but we said that about Cleveland. I could still I
Speaker 1: could see this game should be. It doesn't mean it will.
Speaker 1: I don't think it will be. I think it's I
Speaker 1: could see this being seventeen to sixteen the Steelers is
Speaker 1: not easy, So I respect that they're gonna keep it
Speaker 1: or try to keep it close. Keep the score down.
Speaker 1: But Baker Mayfield too, Like, how are you feeling about
Speaker 1: Baker right now? I mean, this is a game, you know,
Speaker 1: in his maturation process, he's had some ups and downs.
Speaker 1: It's trendy in the right direction, where a really good
Speaker 1: quarterback goes and make sure they win. I feel better.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if what the coaching is behind the
Speaker 1: scenes there. It's been a really up and down season
Speaker 1: for someone who I thought would be an NFL's clear
Speaker 1: cut star at that position. Right now, all right, let
Speaker 1: us move on now now this is all strategy. I
Speaker 1: would not have taken that Browns game anyway, because I
Speaker 1: know I need to be watching Niners Ravens hopefully will
Speaker 1: be also watching Jets Raiders, so I gotta keep my
Speaker 1: TVs open there. Uh So I will go to the
Speaker 1: Lake games and we got a nice late game staring
Speaker 1: at me at Arrowhead, Raiders at Chiefs. I will select
Speaker 1: a three overall, and I think this is a game.
Speaker 1: Let me talk about what the desert saying what people expect.
Speaker 1: After the Raiders lay an absolute stink bomb at the
Speaker 1: meadow Lands against the Jets, loose third for three, the
Speaker 1: quarterback gets benched in the third quarter, just an embarrassing
Speaker 1: loss that really completely recalibrates um uh, the ceiling for
Speaker 1: the Raiders in the eyes of many. But I I
Speaker 1: hold onto the idea that every team has bad weeks,
Speaker 1: and some weeks are worse than others. And and that
Speaker 1: was the Raiders bomb of the year. And I think
Speaker 1: they are going to put up a really good fight
Speaker 1: in this game, because, first of all, the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: not shown shown me this season that they can go
Speaker 1: out and just kill somebody. Um. They've played a lot
Speaker 1: of close games this season, and the Raiders know full
Speaker 1: well the stakes here. If the if the Chiefs uh
Speaker 1: win this game, they're eight and four, the Raiders dropped
Speaker 1: to five hundred and six and six in the division
Speaker 1: is essentially gone. So this is a huge game. I
Speaker 1: expected to be an extremely close game. Uh. And I'm
Speaker 1: wondering if you guys are in the same camp or
Speaker 1: do you think that this is the pumpkin The Raiders
Speaker 1: have turned back into a pumpkin and the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: going to blow them out, because I understand that's side
Speaker 1: of it as well. Well. You say the Chiefs aren't
Speaker 1: really playing dominant games, but these two teams have played
Speaker 1: before and it was a dominant game by the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in which the Raiders secondary was just blitzed by the
Speaker 1: Chief's offense a long time ago. That was the point
Speaker 1: second quarter that they had big play after big play
Speaker 1: after big play, and the Raiders secondary is still not good.
Speaker 1: They're very susceptible to the big play. This is a
Speaker 1: big play passing offense. Tyreek Hill uh appears that he's
Speaker 1: gonna play in this game, and he's so key to
Speaker 1: them that are healthier coming off the by Damian Williams
Speaker 1: might not play, but I do think it's just a
Speaker 1: match of problem for them that the Raiders have survived
Speaker 1: against okay offenses that just don't have enough to blitz.
Speaker 1: They're really talent poor defense overall, and I think Paul
Speaker 1: Gunther and Mike Mayock, uh, you know, added some talent.
Speaker 1: Gunther's coached up what's not a super talented defense, and
Speaker 1: so they survive against the teams that aren't explosive. But
Speaker 1: then you play the Chiefs on the road and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I could look in the mirror
Speaker 1: and because to me, this is like a big game.
Speaker 1: But my Vegas test says it says that I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I just think the Chiefs start their steam roll of
Speaker 1: the December and they this is not close, and the Raiders,
Speaker 1: you know, their their hopes go up and smoke. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My concern for the Raiders is watching that Jets game.
Speaker 1: And we can get to the Jets later that there
Speaker 1: were a lot of bad drops, obviously, but I thought
Speaker 1: that Oakland was just pushed around by the Jets on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. And you mentioned Greg that
Speaker 1: they're all The Raiders offensive line hasn't been itself the
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, and that's a huge concern. And
Speaker 1: there's too many weapons and they would to me, it
Speaker 1: would be a devastating loss. If I'm a Chiefs fan,
Speaker 1: if they if they fall at home in this thing,
Speaker 1: I just you they lost this game, they then go
Speaker 1: to Foxboro the next week and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's all hanging in the balance and they would be
Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble. I I don't see that happening,
Speaker 1: but I do. I think the Raiders have surprised this
Speaker 1: all season. I know they are much better, much better
Speaker 1: home team, win or lose, They're a great story. I
Speaker 1: think they'll be able to move the ball and score
Speaker 1: some points in this game. They take those long drives though,
Speaker 1: and those long drives better. I think that's just tough
Speaker 1: to do against Kansas. That also keeps sating money. They
Speaker 1: have to end in touchdowns though, or else you're just
Speaker 1: taking these long drives and falling further and further behind. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Bengals had some you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to understand if they did something
Speaker 1: schematically their defense really molly whipping the Raiders molly wop
Speaker 1: molly whopping was one of the most surprising things I
Speaker 1: saw in terms of he went for it. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, by the way, molly whipping when you hit
Speaker 1: someone this side of the hand bang molly. It feels
Speaker 1: like I'm phrase that probably shouldn't it's probably should be retired.
Speaker 1: I don't know the background history of it. All that
Speaker 1: up to see. If it is on my work computer,
Speaker 1: you think that's okay. I think it was retired until
Speaker 1: Greg brought it back into the lexicon. You try to
Speaker 1: give it a more modern tweak. The origin of molly
Speaker 1: whop if you if you could, Ricky or just give
Speaker 1: it to the listeners to do and they'll handle it
Speaker 1: by to night. What was your point. I don't even
Speaker 1: think it matters anywhere. I don't know what the Bengals did.
Speaker 1: They took this Raiders team soul for some reason. It
Speaker 1: was one of the most surprising things I saw season.
Speaker 1: Was their defense really dominating in that game and then
Speaker 1: the and then the Raiders come out with the stink
Speaker 1: bomb again. I don't know if they showed something, but
Speaker 1: they're not keeping up. According to Urban Dictionary, molly whop
Speaker 1: verb when a grown man beats another grown man as
Speaker 1: if he were a girl under the age of ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not an appropriate girl under the age. All right,
Speaker 1: glad that we should move on to my picks for one.
Speaker 1: Al Right, Greg, go ahead, I'm just going let's retire
Speaker 1: molly whop society. It's gone. Sorry, guys, Sorry Molly. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take Rams Cardinals. Yeah, I'm taking Rams Cardinals at
Speaker 1: four oh five. I like this game. I like I
Speaker 1: want to like game that that I'm gonna be interested in.
Speaker 1: And uh, there's only three there and this is kind
Speaker 1: of I know the Rams look like their season is done.
Speaker 1: It probably is, but this is the true last Dan
Speaker 1: and if they lose here. It's totally over. And one
Speaker 1: of the more surprising things I think in the NFL
Speaker 1: this year is that the Cardinals offense is right now
Speaker 1: better than the Rams offense. Who would have thought that
Speaker 1: going into the year that not only the Cardinal's offense
Speaker 1: is better, but the Cardinals offense, led by Kenyan Drake
Speaker 1: with David Johnson flat out benched, is better and that
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds is coming back this week. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know David Johnson, who was a top five
Speaker 1: fantasy pick, is gonna get on the field too much.
Speaker 1: This is the number two rushing offense, largely because of
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, and they can throw a lot of creative
Speaker 1: runs at you, just like the Ravens did on Monday Night.
Speaker 1: I think it's a toss up. I I don't totally
Speaker 1: poured dirt on this Rams team. They should be able
Speaker 1: to score some points against Arizona. I don't have a strong,
Speaker 1: you know, feel of who's gonna win this game, but
Speaker 1: Arizona has been close in so many games that it
Speaker 1: really does feel like they're due to have a good
Speaker 1: win and this would be uh a humbling moment I
Speaker 1: think for the Rams. If they end up losing this game.
Speaker 1: There was a Todd Gurley run which got lost in
Speaker 1: the blowout loss. It's like a fifteen yard run early
Speaker 1: second quarter that I thought was the most explosive he's
Speaker 1: looked all year. And I went back and watched a
Speaker 1: few times because I was like, that doesn't look like
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. The last two weeks he's looked pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think he's starting to finally play like
Speaker 1: we would say earlier in the year. He's not any
Speaker 1: better than the Malcolm Brown or Darrell Henderson, and I
Speaker 1: think now you I saw a difference between Gurley and
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown in that game. There was also a long
Speaker 1: third down run where long third and long, where they
Speaker 1: gave the ball to Gurley when it looked to me
Speaker 1: like a clear passing situation, and they they raised the
Speaker 1: point on the broadcast that does Sean McVeigh really trust? Yes,
Speaker 1: it was on Erica's probably as they dug in on
Speaker 1: this game. That's surprising, did a very nice job with that.
Speaker 1: You and m on the wrap up, But dude, that
Speaker 1: does Sean McVeigh trust Jared Goff at this point? That's
Speaker 1: kind of Sean mcveigh's move even last year when things
Speaker 1: are going well, he calls conservative plates. But I don't
Speaker 1: outside of that, you shouldn't trust him because I think
Speaker 1: there was some plays in that game, like there was
Speaker 1: a third and long near the goal line where the
Speaker 1: Ravens blitz and everyone's been killing the Rams o line
Speaker 1: all year. They picked the blitz up perfectly. Goff had
Speaker 1: all the time in the world. He had Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: one on one, and his timing on the throw the
Speaker 1: cup was just totally off. And I'm just thinking, like,
Speaker 1: that's a play they hit eight out of eight times
Speaker 1: last year, seven out of eight times, and Golf like
Speaker 1: rushed the throw even though there's no pressure there. I
Speaker 1: know that's just all on God. Yeah, I think to
Speaker 1: your question, like I am, I shocked at the Cardinals
Speaker 1: offenses productive and exciting. That was one of the two
Speaker 1: things that was going to be that or a big flop.
Speaker 1: I felt like it what we just didn't know, and
Speaker 1: that was one of the off season questions. It's one
Speaker 1: of the shocks of the league that the Rams are
Speaker 1: as un ooyable to watch as they are. And next
Speaker 1: offseason what I'm gonna try to spend more time on
Speaker 1: is looking at teams where the offensive line has been shattered,
Speaker 1: because that seems to be the earmark of you're going
Speaker 1: to get a lot more disappointment than you thought, because
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, you know, where we were with
Speaker 1: Shaan McVeigh year ago is that he's a genius, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that suddenly changes because the Rams aren't good,
Speaker 1: or that he's not skilled or he's been unmasked nonsense.
Speaker 1: He's a great coach. But like I don't see the
Speaker 1: adjustments from Super Bowl on. There's just doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be the situational adjustments where the Rams come out in
Speaker 1: the second half and fix what we're seeing in the
Speaker 1: first half. And their off season issues with their draft
Speaker 1: picks and the fact that you traded for a quarterback
Speaker 1: who has made about a billion less plays in the
Speaker 1: quarterback you shipped at, cornerback you shipped out of the
Speaker 1: house is concerning. They have a lot of issues to
Speaker 1: deal with beyond whether or not they make this playoff
Speaker 1: party and get wiped out in the first round. We
Speaker 1: already do that with offensive lines in the off season.
Speaker 1: It's just it's really hard to predict right well, and
Speaker 1: you may do it a little more than now I want.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the Sessler decides. Could I could
Speaker 1: not imagine. I could not imagine a task that I'm
Speaker 1: less I'm more ill fitted for. It's just that it's
Speaker 1: going to be something I monitor to the best of
Speaker 1: my abilities. The other team in this matchup is the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: who we said off season has one of the worst
Speaker 1: offensive lines. We can't trust it. Well, I think their
Speaker 1: quarter of their quarterback who's not you know, Jerk Goff's
Speaker 1: not gonna scamper around the field the same way Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray is a little bit to do that. You have
Speaker 1: to deal with Kyler mary what he might do on
Speaker 1: every play scheme can make the old line look a
Speaker 1: lot better. I think quarterback. I think McVeigh has helped
Speaker 1: along that line at least in previous years, and I
Speaker 1: think Kingsbury the Rams were hyper aggressive for multiple years.
Speaker 1: Once McVeigh took over in and the sun started shining
Speaker 1: and less need especially going into last season with the
Speaker 1: Sioux signing and moves they would continue to make even
Speaker 1: this year, going to get Jalen Ramsey, all these moves that, um,
Speaker 1: we're real lee in service of getting over the hump.
Speaker 1: I wonder what happens down the back end. And I
Speaker 1: know that the salary cap keeps going up and that
Speaker 1: that aids in terms of the margin for error for
Speaker 1: a GM. But if Jared Goff is not the guy,
Speaker 1: they just signed him to a huge contract. I just
Speaker 1: looked it up on spot rack Todd Gurley. They can't
Speaker 1: even get out of that contract. Uh, they don't have
Speaker 1: a potential out until two. That doesn't mean they'll find
Speaker 1: a way or just take the pill and move on
Speaker 1: at some point, but they invested a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, they give him a contract, Yeah, he controls
Speaker 1: the promised they wouldn't hold out. Oh yeah, we could
Speaker 1: trust him on his word. But it's just like, what
Speaker 1: what is this team going forward? I think it's one
Speaker 1: of the more interesting offseason storylines. I do too, But
Speaker 1: I also think the enjoyment a lot of people have
Speaker 1: had this week saying that no team is in a
Speaker 1: worse position long term and that they have so many
Speaker 1: problems because of the Golf Gurly contract and no flexibility
Speaker 1: and no picks, I think it's overstated. I think teams
Speaker 1: have a lot more flexibility than you realize, and teams
Speaker 1: do change from year to year, you know, good and
Speaker 1: bad that we've seen, and that they that they can
Speaker 1: fix something like it's it's like, let's throw up their hands.
Speaker 1: They're done for four not no team. How about among
Speaker 1: the teams that you'd say have a lot of promise
Speaker 1: and a lot of time. I would give them some
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt because they took over a Jeff
Speaker 1: Fisher team and turned into the most consistent winner in
Speaker 1: the NFC for two years. So yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: could They could change in the positive ways though, A
Speaker 1: snakes to you, Well, I'm gonna take the Buccaneers Jaguars
Speaker 1: and h No one expected that. And you know why.
Speaker 1: It's because this this bozo on the internet is saying, Oh,
Speaker 1: I bet Greg's just gonna take something. Watch watch the
Speaker 1: old Ravens forty niners. That's a good idea. I should
Speaker 1: just take another game like Bucks Jaguars early and watch
Speaker 1: a little Ravens. You're doing what I like to do, yea. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: watch a little Ravens forty niners on the side too. Sorry,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But I didn't really have that
Speaker 1: idea until he gave it to me. And as Lucas
Speaker 1: as bad teams go, Bucks Jaguars is absolutely my kind
Speaker 1: of game because, uh, I do enjoy watching the stylings
Speaker 1: of Jamis Winston. I want to see, uh whether win
Speaker 1: or lose. That kind of curious of what's happening with
Speaker 1: this Jaguars team, whether they just totally get flushed down
Speaker 1: the toilet or falls has some moments as a as
Speaker 1: a match before and seven teams Go, I'm in. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite sound bites of Week twelve was after
Speaker 1: the win over the Falcons and which Winston played well.
Speaker 1: Bruce arians was asked about his optimism level around Jamis Winston,
Speaker 1: whether he was a half cup, half glass full guy,
Speaker 1: half glass empty. Here's what he had to say, glass
Speaker 1: is full as hell and it's gonna get real full
Speaker 1: in a minute. What does that mean? I think that
Speaker 1: means he's about to have a nice, big celebration drink.
Speaker 1: He's gonna drink. He's optimistic and he's gonna drink, which,
Speaker 1: you know what, That's definitely what it is. And Bruce
Speaker 1: likes to have a good time. Why did I My
Speaker 1: mind went to he was making a p joke. That's weird,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he that's the first, That's what
Speaker 1: I thought he was the first, like he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm about to fill to the brim, Like what at
Speaker 1: in that moment? How else would you feel a cup?
Speaker 1: He famously tailgates in the parking lot with friends and
Speaker 1: you know, uh family after after wins. Not I got
Speaker 1: I got something such a good guy on this podcast
Speaker 1: he would be great. I got some bad news for
Speaker 1: Bucks fans. Jamis always plays his best in December when
Speaker 1: they're out of the playoffs. Every year. Every year he
Speaker 1: starts playing great, I think. And then number two if
Speaker 1: you listen to Arians and Jason Light and then also
Speaker 1: some report in Tampa, I think there's a greater chance
Speaker 1: than people realize that Jamis will be back because Brucie
Speaker 1: just says they can talk to themselves into anything filled
Speaker 1: to the brim with optimism, which is crazy to me
Speaker 1: because Arians has a finite amount of time here. He's
Speaker 1: I think sixty seven years old. He's gonna need results
Speaker 1: in year two and you're really going to die on
Speaker 1: that hill? Is that where he's gonna go when the
Speaker 1: games left? Unfortunately, I think those five games will make
Speaker 1: a big determined you know. I by the way, I
Speaker 1: don't think he will. I think he'll go with somebody else.
Speaker 1: But there are there are options on the market in
Speaker 1: this officer I talked about that. Is he really gonna tie?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Perhaps his final NFL head coach,
Speaker 1: his final coaching job, potentially to Jamis Winston, is he's
Speaker 1: seen enough positives that weigh the negative. It's all. It
Speaker 1: all depends. I think Bruce arians is a veteran quarterback
Speaker 1: kind of dude. He's good. If anything, he's gonna want.
Speaker 1: He'd flipped out Jamis Winston for someone you can trust.
Speaker 1: So we need to see you because the other side
Speaker 1: of this with Nick Foles. And I know it gets
Speaker 1: too boring to keep talking about Nick Foles over and over,
Speaker 1: but I thought the thing it could come in and
Speaker 1: do was help Jacksonville's red zone offense. And his touchdown
Speaker 1: percentage is two point nine, which is drastically lower than
Speaker 1: Minsho's four point two. Right now, and speaking of keeping
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or thinking about the quarterback position, are we just
Speaker 1: stuck with Nick Foles for the rest of the year
Speaker 1: no matter what, just because I edit he's a great guy.
Speaker 1: He's a great locker room glue guy, and he's very
Speaker 1: good at giving postgame speeches that we all love. And
Speaker 1: he did great in the Eagles. He want a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But this is not working to me right now, and
Speaker 1: and so what do you just you just stick it out?
Speaker 1: This offense with him under center. It's not just him,
Speaker 1: but this offense is a cure for insomnia. They are
Speaker 1: they are so boring. Leonard Fournette is two thirty pounds
Speaker 1: and he dances too much. Uh, Chris Conley, maybe he'd
Speaker 1: make plays if he had DJ Shark's hands, but he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Right Like, Foals puts up a nice pass early in
Speaker 1: the game and it goes off of conley shoulder. And
Speaker 1: I watched that game, and I'm granted, I'm biased. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking Folds is gonna do well. I said that I
Speaker 1: I like watching him play, but I really tried to
Speaker 1: watch him throw to throw and thought like, is he
Speaker 1: playing poorly or not? And I didn't think so. I
Speaker 1: thought he played a pretty solid game. I go check PF.
Speaker 1: He has a plus one on the day because he
Speaker 1: was in third and eight. Every they're down three and
Speaker 1: they're going run, run, screen, pass, punt, They're they're they're
Speaker 1: down you know, at one point four teen three and
Speaker 1: they go run run, like, uh, you know, not not
Speaker 1: a screen pass, but another thing where it's like a
Speaker 1: short pass and you're trying to set up the blocking
Speaker 1: and he has a couple of throats and it's just
Speaker 1: like a terrible offense and it's the worst rush defense
Speaker 1: in the league. And it just feels like, yes, falls
Speaker 1: is not helped them. I get it. They also didn't
Speaker 1: score a touchdown and three of eight Gardner Minshew starts,
Speaker 1: it just feels like the quarterback thing is a distraction
Speaker 1: from what is a territist team. I have to just disagree.
Speaker 1: I that's fine, that's just saying here's here, there's energy,
Speaker 1: here's here. You've been rolling like, yeah, I love here's
Speaker 1: the thing, here's the here's the stat that he started.
Speaker 1: He started a game, he played, he played, he played well,
Speaker 1: but I agree that he played really well. But he
Speaker 1: started eight games and three of them they didn't score
Speaker 1: a touchdown. In two more of them they scored one touchdown.
Speaker 1: So that's a lot of his starts that their offense
Speaker 1: as a whole was terrible. And and the same as
Speaker 1: continuing with Nicks, his great starts were great. I think
Speaker 1: the Minshew maniacs. I get it, but there's so much
Speaker 1: wrong with the Jaguars right now to point to the
Speaker 1: quarterback position and say that's what Because we spent twenty
Speaker 1: minutes on their run defense on Sunday, I just want
Speaker 1: to bring up the same exact topics their defense. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: or maybe they're not worth any time at all. We
Speaker 1: maybe we've given them more than enough time on the show.
Speaker 1: My thing is more, are my thing is more between
Speaker 1: now and the rest of the year. Are we just
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and say Nick Foles is the answer
Speaker 1: because we paid them all this money. I mean, you
Speaker 1: might have to, but I just don't trust Nick Foles
Speaker 1: a long terms. Minshew could be a range linebacker. Also,
Speaker 1: this team is gonna be But you put Dan you
Speaker 1: have to admit that you have been looking for Minshew
Speaker 1: negatives to you. You didn't come in with a totally.
Speaker 1: I have a little annoyed by Minshew. I never bought
Speaker 1: into him as a savior of the franchise. That but
Speaker 1: that doesn't because you guys disagree doesn't make me wrong.
Speaker 1: I think it's not. Doesn't make you wrong. But as
Speaker 1: a low as a low round rookie, I think he
Speaker 1: had one of the more exciting seasons. I am here.
Speaker 1: See that's where the disc I see that, and I
Speaker 1: respect that for sure. Is any rookie he played, he
Speaker 1: played better than most rookies you'll see in a giving year,
Speaker 1: I agree, but better than Baker Mayfield for half the
Speaker 1: like Falls has looked rusty, especially in his first there.
Speaker 1: I really think if you watch last week's game, it
Speaker 1: just wasn't about the quarterback last week. That's all all right,
Speaker 1: So let's move on now. As part of our trademark,
Speaker 1: I will move ahead of you, and let me just
Speaker 1: make a clear The conditional pick we talked about Steelers
Speaker 1: Browns has to go to overtime on Sunday, and if
Speaker 1: it does, next week your number two pick. You're picking
Speaker 1: two overall. We swap with my final round pick, number nine,
Speaker 1: so you would get the ninth pick and I would
Speaker 1: get your second pick. I don't understand the motivation, but
Speaker 1: in this condition, it just seems like random. It's like
Speaker 1: throwing a condition in a trade. It's like if Matt Castle,
Speaker 1: you know, throws two touchdowns in week seven, then we
Speaker 1: get a fourth round pick. It this doesn't really like
Speaker 1: I got brown Steelers. I'm willing to be totally controlled.
Speaker 1: You can drag me around and do what you want
Speaker 1: with me. For the rest of it, I'm not tracking anything.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's an overtime win, That's what I Overtime win
Speaker 1: for the Browns is what we all want on Sunday.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. Um All, Right now, the
Speaker 1: pick is the Jets at Bengals. Okay, so um, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I'm trying not to get too caught up
Speaker 1: in the Jets right now. But I I struggle with
Speaker 1: this because I think, by my nature, I'm an optimistic
Speaker 1: person and that carries over to my fandom, and I
Speaker 1: tend to see the good with my team more than
Speaker 1: I can see the bad sometimes. Uh, and the Jets
Speaker 1: are so there was so much bad I couldn't miss
Speaker 1: it earlier in the year. And I killed them earlier
Speaker 1: in their season, just like everyone else. But when you
Speaker 1: watch them, um over the past three weeks and especially
Speaker 1: less two weeks and especially less week against the Raiders,
Speaker 1: it's fairly remarkable to me how they've cleaned up their
Speaker 1: deficiencies um so well. And the deficiencies were in three
Speaker 1: major areas. Quarterback where Sam Donald had been a mess
Speaker 1: for most of you know. Obviously he was dealing with Mono.
Speaker 1: He wasn't right Week one, he missed three weeks, he
Speaker 1: had the good Cowboys game, and then went into a
Speaker 1: bad place for three weeks stretch. There he is now. Um,
Speaker 1: not only is he playing largely mistake free football, Uh,
Speaker 1: he is doing the things that kind of made you
Speaker 1: excited about him last December. Uh, just being a smart quarterback,
Speaker 1: be able to throw from different arm arm angles, be
Speaker 1: able to evade the rush, make plays on the move. Uh.
Speaker 1: Basically just look like the guy that Jets fans uh
Speaker 1: fell in love with at the end of the last season.
Speaker 1: The next up is the offensive line. Matt Khalil, who
Speaker 1: I mentioned this was a guy that um that Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas brought in late. Not only was he a guy
Speaker 1: that didn't work out, apparently his style of play was
Speaker 1: leading to even more confusion. They now have an offensive
Speaker 1: line that is not star studded, but they are playing
Speaker 1: really well and they were giving them time to do
Speaker 1: things like for instance, if you watched the Raiders game,
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell using him, splitting him out and getting
Speaker 1: to do different things. What was happening was the offensive
Speaker 1: one was such a wreck. They were doing this Max
Speaker 1: Protects set up, which led to Bell being inside blocking often.
Speaker 1: And what we saw last week was Levy on Bell.
Speaker 1: Not Pittsburgh Steelers Levy on Bell, but a guy that
Speaker 1: was making plays again, so you're seeing it there. And
Speaker 1: then in the in the back end of the secondary,
Speaker 1: you have two guys and and bless him, Austin Austin
Speaker 1: and Arthur Milette who have all of a sudden turned
Speaker 1: into real players over the past three weeks. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: just a small sample sized thing, but they have been
Speaker 1: guys that you would think we would be picked on,
Speaker 1: but instead they have held down the secondary. And then
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, the quote unquote cliche movable chess piece. Uh.
Speaker 1: Greg Williams has done a good job maximizing his incredible ability.
Speaker 1: So it's turned the Jets into I think a good
Speaker 1: bad team. I think they're better than all the bad
Speaker 1: teams in the league. And uh, I'm excited about them.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with what you said, because I
Speaker 1: feel like that Oakland game was the most confident I've
Speaker 1: ever seen Sam Donald play. And when he is, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, when he does have someone in his face,
Speaker 1: his quick release is a difference maker, and like he
Speaker 1: his downfield accuracy in that game was uh tangible, and
Speaker 1: there's no reason they shouldn't sweep up uh the Bengals,
Speaker 1: who have played better the last couple of weeks. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess, like they say, if you what is that saying,
Speaker 1: if you hang around the barbershop long enough, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a haircut at some point. So maybe the Bengals
Speaker 1: get a win at some point. They're running into the
Speaker 1: Jets the wrong time. Had they run in the Jets
Speaker 1: in week five, maybe difference everything I've just said, And Greg,
Speaker 1: you could talk about your point in a second, because
Speaker 1: I like the one you made downstairs. Everything I just
Speaker 1: said holds true that I'm confident going to Sunday. But
Speaker 1: this is a historically a typical game where the Jets
Speaker 1: flop and everything gets wiped Away's like you've lost the
Speaker 1: two winless teams this month and all that stuff. And too,
Speaker 1: I hate that Andy Dalton is now back in the
Speaker 1: lineup because he gives the bank was a better chance
Speaker 1: to win organizationally. By the way, it's terrible look for Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I thought just that they couldn't even do this right
Speaker 1: and give the kid a longer look he's a rookie.
Speaker 1: They move them out and they go back to Dalton
Speaker 1: and Dalton is just being jerked around at this point.
Speaker 1: But your point about Dalton, I thought it was a
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, I I put some stock into a point.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Phil Sims or Dan Fouts.
Speaker 1: Was one of these, you know, color guys to do
Speaker 1: the games. Who who says when you're a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: after they've been benched and they come back into the
Speaker 1: lineup at some point, it's like a huge weight has
Speaker 1: been lifted off your should. You've been a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: your whole life. Your biggest fear in all of football
Speaker 1: is that you're gonna get benched from high school to
Speaker 1: college into the pros and you're a franchise quarterback and
Speaker 1: then it finally happens, like the axe swings on you,
Speaker 1: and it happens, and then you end up starting a
Speaker 1: few weeks later, and it's like, oh, the world didn't end.
Speaker 1: I got nothing to lose right now, and you you
Speaker 1: start playing a little freer, a little better, and Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton's a lot better than Ryan Finley, and I don't
Speaker 1: kill the Bengals actually for what they did. It just
Speaker 1: because they wanted to take a look at Finley and
Speaker 1: maybe they were more optimistic than they should have been,
Speaker 1: and he was clearly not ready. And you still got
Speaker 1: five games left and oh and sixteen is forever. Go
Speaker 1: try to win some games. My problem is you they
Speaker 1: started listening to the fans. It might be ownership. That's
Speaker 1: the move they made. Is a move from mid December,
Speaker 1: not in October. Totally. Yeah, it's like the Bengals, though
Speaker 1: I could see them. They play the Jets, and let's
Speaker 1: say if anything ever happened there that Dan would not like.
Speaker 1: They played the Dolphins and I could see them splitting
Speaker 1: with Cleveland. Suddenly they go three and thirteen, don't get
Speaker 1: the first overall pick, and you're back, potentially with Andy
Speaker 1: Daltons are quarterback next year. It's kind of the most
Speaker 1: Bengal thing ever. But it's that could be Adulton's legacy.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be back almost no matter what,
Speaker 1: although I guess you never know, you're right. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that with them, but they had I think there's
Speaker 1: a dangerous game for the Jets because as much as
Speaker 1: I totally agree with all the good things that Jets
Speaker 1: have done. They've played four of the worst five or
Speaker 1: sixty defense in the league. Uh, And so if they
Speaker 1: I think they're kryptonite is facing a real pass rush.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Bengals actually have one, either, but
Speaker 1: I think if, if, when they play a team with
Speaker 1: a real pass rush, then we'll see with the progress.
Speaker 1: I think, Darnald, Darnald, that's for real. The defense is
Speaker 1: absolutely overachieving. I think if the Bengals, you know, guys upfront, Hubbard,
Speaker 1: dun Lap, and Atkins have played pretty well the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. All right, let us move on now
Speaker 1: to Chris Westling with his second pick. Right, isn't this Mark?
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Mark Sessler, I'm sorry in my original slot, Mark,
Speaker 1: you're up? All right? Well, I'm taking that four pm
Speaker 1: East Coast PM West Coast Chargers Broncos. It's a smart, uh,
Speaker 1: a schematic approach. I never thought it would be available
Speaker 1: to me, So I'm pleasantly surprised. The draft is going
Speaker 1: very well. Uh, except the game itself, like a guy
Speaker 1: Drew Lock maybe, well, the game itself is is about
Speaker 1: as depressing as a Charger's Broncos game could be in
Speaker 1: early December. The charges have killed themselves and I I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's to me looking at Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: I guess the thing. He's seven interceptions over the last
Speaker 1: two games, and a lot of them have been, you know,
Speaker 1: not just tips where it's not they've had to do
Speaker 1: with his his lack of ability to peg targets. And
Speaker 1: it's not the same Philip Rivers. And I don't like
Speaker 1: watching quarterbacks that have been in our life for fifteen
Speaker 1: years playing at the highest level. He's never missed a
Speaker 1: game starting to show elements of decline. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's hurt or there's something else going on. This
Speaker 1: has happened to Philip Rivers before. He had that one
Speaker 1: season where everyone thought he's done, and then he was
Speaker 1: comeback Player of the Year the next year. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what the future is. But the most ridiculous
Speaker 1: the words ever given, well that was, but but the
Speaker 1: point is he did he did play us so much
Speaker 1: better the next year, Like he came back from the
Speaker 1: year that he just threw like seven more interceptions. Some
Speaker 1: guy came back from the quadruple a C L M
Speaker 1: C LPC L there and he's like, what that was
Speaker 1: the year? There was like really legitimately no competition for
Speaker 1: that award, so don't give it out. How about Drown
Speaker 1: James coming back in this game? There there's something that's
Speaker 1: they can watch for. Darrown James is playing football for
Speaker 1: Truelock if it's terrible timing for true luck if he
Speaker 1: does start for dinner. As we're taping there, the Broncos
Speaker 1: are not announcing their starter, but they're saying that they're
Speaker 1: the reps will be split between Drew Lock and Brandon Out,
Speaker 1: which is a strange one, but usually the idea is
Speaker 1: if you haven't announced your starter, that means you're making
Speaker 1: a change, like you never don't announce it when you do.
Speaker 1: But if you're, if you're deciding to go with Drew Lock,
Speaker 1: you would give him all the reps, wouldn't you, right?
Speaker 1: I think what I think, my guess is that he
Speaker 1: is going to get most of these reps that you know,
Speaker 1: the media doesn't get to see it anyways, and that
Speaker 1: barring him like just you know, being terrible and practiced
Speaker 1: for some reason, then that he's a starter. You guys
Speaker 1: want to hear something uncomfortable always. I love ringeworthy radio
Speaker 1: interviews that go wrong, and uh, this does not involve
Speaker 1: a game or previewing, So I'm just gonna stick it
Speaker 1: in here and bears defensive lineman Achem Hicks on the
Speaker 1: wattle and still show this week. Let's play that clip
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be the office level awkward. Here we
Speaker 1: go off the band wagon. Ride with us. We're down
Speaker 1: right now, we know that, and we're fighting to get
Speaker 1: back up, So roll with us. We didn't do this
Speaker 1: on purpose. We didn't try to get ourselves in the situation,
Speaker 1: but we're doing everything that we can to climb out
Speaker 1: of this whole, So be supportive. You mean you didn't
Speaker 1: put your arm in between those two raiders and it
Speaker 1: popped out a joint on purpose? I can't find No,
Speaker 1: I'm joking, Hey, who, that's a joke. No, that's why
Speaker 1: I said. I'm not that's about somebody's injury. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm perfectly respectful. I'm perfectly respectful. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what you will not joke. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: didn't you have a blessed day. This is the last
Speaker 1: time I'm on this radio station. Are you. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was the Michael Scott School of cringe comedy right there.
Speaker 1: Then he has like another two and a half hours
Speaker 1: of radio to do. You know what, I would love
Speaker 1: to hear that the next minute after that, I want
Speaker 1: to see how I'm just like so coming up in
Speaker 1: the next hour we talk about the weird thing is
Speaker 1: and Erica, you brought it up before we started, like
Speaker 1: it might not have been like a good bit, but
Speaker 1: it was. He didn't mean anything, right, it was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me you purposely didn't pop out
Speaker 1: your arm, Like of course people need to support He
Speaker 1: was trying to support his point with something lighthearted, and
Speaker 1: I guess to to Hicks's point, when you suffer a
Speaker 1: painful injury on the football field, that's never laughing matter.
Speaker 1: But also it's like, dude, he didn't mean anything by it,
Speaker 1: but it was so funny. He could have gone club
Speaker 1: direction a million different ways. Not the moment of the
Speaker 1: season that devastated this man, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and like ruined. He's miserable for months on end because
Speaker 1: of this moment. At the end, he's like, oh key, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't feel good after that. I feel bad that
Speaker 1: I want to watch like, uh, like I would start
Speaker 1: documentary about that. Oh, I would never listen to that again.
Speaker 1: I I love that so much and I want I
Speaker 1: can't wait. It's gonna happen eventually. We don't have a
Speaker 1: ton of guests on the show, but it came somewhat close.
Speaker 1: Mark back on the A T L Debate Club days
Speaker 1: when I called Richard Sherman stinky Davis like, he kind
Speaker 1: of paused for a moment and then he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let this nobody. He had also come in and
Speaker 1: read and that was back when a lot of the
Speaker 1: bulk of our work was writing. Richard Sherman ask you know,
Speaker 1: controversies with other players. So he's like, oh, I've read
Speaker 1: all your articles. So he he clearly had a handler
Speaker 1: that had given him four or five stories each. Here's
Speaker 1: the two clowns. You're about bozos. You're about to sit
Speaker 1: down and chat with and but but he didn't. He
Speaker 1: didn't come after, he didn't walk away. Was gonna happen
Speaker 1: one day with the closest and it wasn't really it
Speaker 1: was just awkward because he wasn't interested in it. Wasn't
Speaker 1: that Sean Jeffreys, the outside Jeffrey where he was on
Speaker 1: the phone, and uh, he seemed to be barely paying
Speaker 1: attention to what we were doing, and we were just
Speaker 1: like I had to repeat questions. What was that? Sorry? Man,
Speaker 1: I was trying my shoes. He was like, what it was?
Speaker 1: Five minutes out show? Do you think he was running late?
Speaker 1: Actually I know what it was, and now I think
Speaker 1: I remember he was gonna be on Total Access. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to be in studious in the studio, but he
Speaker 1: was running late. He missed the car, so instead of
Speaker 1: coming into the studio to do five minutes with us.
Speaker 1: They're like, we could do on the phone. You could
Speaker 1: do them on the phone, run the way to the
Speaker 1: NFL network. And that didn't work out either, because he
Speaker 1: was obviously anyway, one day we'll get our team Hicks moment, Uh,
Speaker 1: and West might die. That's what I've played today, all right,
Speaker 1: who's up West? I thought this game would go earlier,
Speaker 1: but I realized I'm the only Titans fan in the room,
Speaker 1: So yeah, Titans. That cool. That's a good game. Though.
Speaker 1: It's a good pick in this uh, at this juncture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be stuck with the three early games in
Speaker 1: New Lakey. I don't know, that's gonna be tough. With
Speaker 1: the game of the year. I know, I see what
Speaker 1: you guys are doing. I don't blame you could have
Speaker 1: made that trade, I know. But you know we will
Speaker 1: get through this. It'll be all right. Did you know
Speaker 1: the last sixteen game sixteen games going back to last year,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry has over sixteen hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns,
Speaker 1: which is two hundred yards more than Zeke Elliott. I
Speaker 1: shared a similar stat last week, and then he had
Speaker 1: another monster week. He's been a stud ten more touchdowns
Speaker 1: than Zeke Elliott on the ground in that span. Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry is playing awesome and you can see his explosiveness
Speaker 1: as he runs through the hole and gets to the
Speaker 1: second level. These big plays aren't just miss tackles. They
Speaker 1: are him exploding through holes and out running Pete. There
Speaker 1: are got the best of farm in the game. There
Speaker 1: are guys that it's proven over the years that they
Speaker 1: have better numbers and they play better late in the season.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is one of those guys, and now he's
Speaker 1: on a team. And I don't know if it's Tannehill
Speaker 1: that unlocked it or it's just a little bit of
Speaker 1: luck for Tannehill and Arthur Smith the coordinator, but they
Speaker 1: have a bunch of guys who can go to the distance. A. J.
Speaker 1: Brown is an explosive player, Henry is an elusive player.
Speaker 1: Um Corey Davis occasionally can be an explosive player. Johnny
Speaker 1: Smith made some big plays. You know, it's it's just
Speaker 1: like one thirty yard play per week, but even that,
Speaker 1: you know that's big and and it's all happened with
Speaker 1: Tannehill that they're kind of a big play type of team,
Speaker 1: which you don't think of when you think of the Titans.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we're part of where my Nick Foles
Speaker 1: uh Anti nick Foles takes coming out of the game
Speaker 1: was well, no, it was because of the way Tannehill
Speaker 1: played in that game and the way he's played producing
Speaker 1: big plays in an offense where that all time do
Speaker 1: too much. I mean, to his credit, but I will
Speaker 1: give him this, like when he ran for that touchdown
Speaker 1: and just kind of way he throws his body around,
Speaker 1: and the color guy in that game was like, that's
Speaker 1: how you win over your entire locker room with that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And I do think that that the
Speaker 1: Titans have been galvanized by him. It's funny to me
Speaker 1: that these two teams at six and five. If this
Speaker 1: were the Cowboys Eagles, it would be treated like the
Speaker 1: sequel to Titanic, and it's like one of four games
Speaker 1: we have left because I guess there's just not a
Speaker 1: lot of juice around a FC South rivalries in general.
Speaker 1: But this is one of the better games of the week.
Speaker 1: Titanic to Leo, Leo's back from from the water cure
Speaker 1: from the Black Lagoon type figure, like his body was
Speaker 1: frozen and the cryogenical I got it. And then they
Speaker 1: bring him back. He comes back from the dead and
Speaker 1: he wants revenge on Kate Winslet's character for not Yeah,
Speaker 1: because she wouldn't let him on that piece of wood
Speaker 1: and there was plenty of room for him on the
Speaker 1: piece of wood floating in the icy Atlantic, and he
Speaker 1: just floated off. She took the whole piece of wood.
Speaker 1: So he's going to come back for her. Zane. You
Speaker 1: bring Billy Zane back, you haven't seen him in a while,
Speaker 1: get some revenge on him. That's a very different him
Speaker 1: to that movie Zombie went down. He went he went
Speaker 1: down with as well. Yeah, I mean they were in
Speaker 1: love as he as they were partying way until she
Speaker 1: broke his heart. We're old enough Erica that I don't
Speaker 1: know if other people here have these memories, but I do.
Speaker 1: I remember going to another movie the week that or
Speaker 1: the week after Titanic came out. Eventually did see in
Speaker 1: the theater too, and they were just like lines of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the movie had been out for a week or two,
Speaker 1: lines of people in West Springfield, Massachusetts, you know, waiting
Speaker 1: to get into the tight into Titanic for like an hour.
Speaker 1: But whatever happened, Yeah, younger like Erica, people your age
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to be the people your age guy,
Speaker 1: but like a true monoculture um phenomenon can't I don't
Speaker 1: think it can happen the way it happened with Titanic,
Speaker 1: where it actually just completely took over society as this
Speaker 1: all incumpassing, encompassing, uh phenomenon that everyone had an opinion on,
Speaker 1: people saw multiple times. Nine. I had just a little
Speaker 1: like to put you in the moment. That was a
Speaker 1: senior of high school and my second semester elective course
Speaker 1: was film study, and it was, you know whatever, it
Speaker 1: was just gonna go watch. I'm sure like a couple
Speaker 1: of Hitchcock movies and maybe watch you know, Spielberg movie
Speaker 1: whatever it would have the course, they swapped it out
Speaker 1: and then just made the whole class about Titanic. And
Speaker 1: it was a class trip to see Titanic. It was
Speaker 1: making a video documentary about Titanic, and we all played
Speaker 1: different characters. That's you feel like the original version. I
Speaker 1: feel like you had to learn more from the original
Speaker 1: version of the class. I would have preferred that, um,
Speaker 1: but that's how big Titanic was. And now the way
Speaker 1: you know, things have splintered with the media the way
Speaker 1: it is now, I just don't think that ever happens again.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I waited at midnight to see Twilight.
Speaker 1: Twilight Twile is huge, but it doesn't hold a camp
Speaker 1: to my point, has been completely sideswiped by a South.
Speaker 1: Things have happened to it. Sorry. Leading the league in
Speaker 1: yards per tempt the I got no time for that film,
Speaker 1: and I believe I saw a stat that in four
Speaker 1: of US five starts, the Titans are top five yards
Speaker 1: per play in the entire league. I want to know
Speaker 1: what uh t Y Hilton shows up, because when he
Speaker 1: was active for that game, against the Texans. I thought
Speaker 1: maybe that swings that game, but he ended up not
Speaker 1: being the real t Y. Hilton a couple of drops
Speaker 1: and not nearly as explosive, couldn't win one on one
Speaker 1: and they didn't even send him on. Will Fuller was
Speaker 1: was the key to that game. And I just if
Speaker 1: you don't have the real t Y, especially a Dorri
Speaker 1: Jackson who's playing pretty well lately and matches up with
Speaker 1: him usually, you know, this just isn't the same Colts team.
Speaker 1: I know. We got Jonathan Williams who spice racks guy
Speaker 1: in the backfield on time. Listeners will remember our friend
Speaker 1: Brad Spicer the spice rack. He called Jonathan Williams is
Speaker 1: emergence four years ago. It took a little while, but
Speaker 1: now he otherwise that appearance was a real iceberg in
Speaker 1: the way of the ship performance by Spicy, but he
Speaker 1: nailed the Jonathan Williams take years ago. Come back to
Speaker 1: l a spice rack. Apparently he's been in like Cincinnati
Speaker 1: for two months and no one knew. I invited him
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving and he said chance will be in l
Speaker 1: A and then to me a few days later and said,
Speaker 1: I think I'll stick it around with my family in Cincinnati. Well,
Speaker 1: thanksgivings for family. Yeah, I was surprised that he was
Speaker 1: thinking about leaving his family just to come to l A.
Speaker 1: For takes. Happy holidays to spice wreck wherever he is. Yes,
Speaker 1: and how about put a little spice on your turkey?
Speaker 1: You're you know, the bland bird. That's what we get.
Speaker 1: We get a little uh, we get a spicy turkey.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the way to go. A little
Speaker 1: smoked spice in there. I have no time for the
Speaker 1: cliche this time of year. Turkey, it's terrible. I don't
Speaker 1: need any on my plate. Get out of here. Agree
Speaker 1: that it's like anything. That's how you prepare it. If
Speaker 1: you don't prepare it, well you're it's on you. About
Speaker 1: West preparing to turkey, I know he can be great.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm I've got the brine going right now. We're
Speaker 1: smoking it tomorrow, we get it all. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: it ready. Damn, that's gonna be good. I'm frying my
Speaker 1: first turkey. Me and Bob in the garage where I
Speaker 1: do the throwback podcast. We talked about it on the
Speaker 1: pot a lot that I was eventually gonna burn down
Speaker 1: that garage in the rage. This might act really happened
Speaker 1: tomorrow the garage gets burned down in a fried turkey accident. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't put it in frozen. It's gonna be raining, so yeah,
Speaker 1: but like the garage is gonna smell like grease for
Speaker 1: like months and months at good point. Can maybe this
Speaker 1: is where we're doing our follow up pod the day after.
Speaker 1: I don't know why this seems still workplace. It's pretty
Speaker 1: much marks nightmare, like a lingering smell of meat twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes of like fried turkey smell. Okay, I like
Speaker 1: to do it, lady, all right, West, it snakes to you.
Speaker 1: West has like nine games, I know, And I thought,
Speaker 1: I'll save the Eagles Dolphins for someone else, because someone's
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay close attention to Carson Wentz and
Speaker 1: that Eagles offense to break it down. So I'll save
Speaker 1: that for you guys. I'll take Packers Giants. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: a little bit of an upset there. The way you
Speaker 1: set it up, it was like only one man can
Speaker 1: watch the tape and really know what's going on, and
Speaker 1: that man is Chris. I would feel irresponsible if my
Speaker 1: third game was watching Carson Wesson trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what was wrong with him, so it's better off if
Speaker 1: someone else does. And the Giants, I I think I
Speaker 1: said last week that Daniel Jones doesn't really qualify as
Speaker 1: exciting for me, and that's true, but maybe I'm being
Speaker 1: a little hard on him considering what's going on with
Speaker 1: that offense. Evan Ingram's not playing. It seems like every
Speaker 1: other week they have a concust wide receiver. Se Kwon
Speaker 1: Barkley is nowhere close to what he normally is. He's
Speaker 1: running as if he still has that same explosive jump
Speaker 1: cuts and springy legs, and it's leading to a lot
Speaker 1: of negative plays because he just can't get out of
Speaker 1: those situations he used to get out of. Although I
Speaker 1: find the sae Quon Barkley conversation strange, like all the
Speaker 1: Giants fans, he's like, well, he he must be hurt.
Speaker 1: He's not the same guy. But then there's you know,
Speaker 1: seventy yard runs that he makes, and then there's plays
Speaker 1: where he ult I get it, but there's some place
Speaker 1: where he looks pretty great to me, and and he is,
Speaker 1: you know, not making yards after contact. I don't know,
Speaker 1: It's just like running backs play hurt first of all,
Speaker 1: so that's how you get and the ankle sprint can
Speaker 1: ruin a whole season, and maybe that is it. I guess.
Speaker 1: I just I see some really good plays from him,
Speaker 1: So that's where I get confused. It's like, Okay, on
Speaker 1: that play where he looked amazing, is he that's the play?
Speaker 1: He's not injured. It's just that part of it's a little.
Speaker 1: I mean, his yards per attempt last four games three
Speaker 1: point three seven, dip down to two. He had that
Speaker 1: game where he had thirteen rushes for one yard, which
Speaker 1: gave him a zero point eight yards per attempt, and
Speaker 1: then three point four seven. If that were someone not
Speaker 1: named Sequon Barkley, we would I'm not saying what he's
Speaker 1: jump cuts from even last year. He's just not production
Speaker 1: though he was a boomer bus guy that had a
Speaker 1: ton of negative plays and a ton of one yard games,
Speaker 1: and and that guy overlooked. It's like a quarterback with
Speaker 1: a strong arm, like you're a boomer bust quarterback because
Speaker 1: you play that style, you have the ability to do it.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't have the ability right now to get
Speaker 1: out of the trull well that he used to put
Speaker 1: himself into for risking the big play. It's a great
Speaker 1: uh get right matchup for the Packers often too, I'm
Speaker 1: a little getting a little worried about, but not when
Speaker 1: they're playing the Giants. Yeah, it's not a it's a
Speaker 1: there's get right games. It feels like get right festival
Speaker 1: and you hope it. But but the Packers also feel
Speaker 1: to me like fair for getting right. Yeah. Glocklin headlining,
Speaker 1: that's exactly about late period Lilith, I'm talking it kind
Speaker 1: of lost it a little bit. I went either the
Speaker 1: first or the second Lilith Cowboys McLaughlin head line. Liz
Speaker 1: Fair was there. That's that was really my Tory Amos
Speaker 1: was there Bridge Tori Amos back in the day it
Speaker 1: was that it was hawkinses Beach, you know, a regular Hawkins,
Speaker 1: Sophie B. Hawkins. That almost made um our version of
Speaker 1: the throwback pipe really dating or something? Damn I wish
Speaker 1: I was you know the no what's the different one? As? Okay,
Speaker 1: four non blonds was there? Yes? What happened to that girlfriend? Greg?
Speaker 1: Can you isolate West as? Oh? Yes? For future games?
Speaker 1: Concrete blonde? Alright, let's move on West. You really made
Speaker 1: a great point about we're gonna be tied up with Niners.
Speaker 1: Ravens Zeusser's whole life is on the line with the Jets.
Speaker 1: Do I really want to take that responsibility of letting
Speaker 1: the people know whether Carson Wentz is broken or fixed?
Speaker 1: People are gonna want to know answers, and I won't
Speaker 1: be able to give it to him. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and take the Redskins at Panthers and and
Speaker 1: and you know, be professional about it and keep my
Speaker 1: eye on the game and read up on it afterwards
Speaker 1: and then report to give a dispatch come Sunday night. Um,
Speaker 1: but I just you know, the Eagles and Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: that's too big a story in the NFL right now,
Speaker 1: A lot of responsibility. So I'm gonna pass that responsibility
Speaker 1: off to someone I trust, which is Mark Sessler. Well,
Speaker 1: I know we'll be able to focus on that game
Speaker 1: extremely well. I mean, here's the way this works. Number one.
Speaker 1: Let's are you talking about both these games right now?
Speaker 1: Why not? Let's do it. Obviously get to these good
Speaker 1: prime time we can mismatch through them. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I would have imagine I'm the last person the listener
Speaker 1: would pick to diagnose quarterback issues among the show or
Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere close to the bottom. But I'm going to
Speaker 1: do my best and I'm gonna give it my certain
Speaker 1: energy and joy for the sport will decide by the
Speaker 1: way who comes in last. There we'll find out the
Speaker 1: health of the Eagles, though should take anywhere watchable. Now
Speaker 1: we're doing a new thing. We're talking both of these
Speaker 1: games at once in short order and get into the
Speaker 1: nice prime time Well you can bring it back to
Speaker 1: el Sean Jeffrey a little right there there. The Eagles
Speaker 1: are getting healthier. It looks like they're gonna have Alshan Nelson,
Speaker 1: agil Are, Lane Johnson and Brandon Books back Jordan Matthews,
Speaker 1: which that's pretty significant. And their defense right now, to me,
Speaker 1: is playing playoff level defense where they should both lines.
Speaker 1: They should be able to win a game on their
Speaker 1: own in in Miami, even if it's not fun. If
Speaker 1: this game is thirty five nothing Eagles, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, Carson Wentz looks good. I think my take
Speaker 1: on this is that everybody overreacted to Carson Wentz playing
Speaker 1: in the win two weeks in a row with bad
Speaker 1: wide receivers, no running game, even with the jadeveon Clowney out,
Speaker 1: Seattle's defensive line dominating up front against the Eagles offensive line,
Speaker 1: and what's going on with that offense is the opposite
Speaker 1: of symbiotic. It's like each bad group is making the
Speaker 1: other group's job way harder because they're all underperforming. And
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is now living under a black cloud. Well
Speaker 1: if the Eagles, and I'm super down on them, but West,
Speaker 1: you might be right. Maybe it's just a two week
Speaker 1: sample size that we need to issues just like but
Speaker 1: I mean the Eagles general, are they in the league
Speaker 1: or something? Right? Are the Eagles done well? They get
Speaker 1: like we're saying at Miami, Miami's had two really bad
Speaker 1: losses back to back, and their two and nine, then
Speaker 1: they get the Giants at home, the Redskins on the road,
Speaker 1: Cowboys at home, and then at Giants. This season is
Speaker 1: not broken beyond repair in terms of a chance to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs because the Cowboys have been so unpredictable
Speaker 1: and that's why Jerry Jones should be mad. This division
Speaker 1: race should be over and they've right, so the Eagles
Speaker 1: have a chance to hang around and maybe even steal
Speaker 1: the NFC East If they can just take care of
Speaker 1: their business. But the question becomes, is Philadelphia, specifically on
Speaker 1: offense broken beyond repair itself, so we'll see. I just
Speaker 1: feel like they're being removed from the story in terms
Speaker 1: of teams we can trust as being there in late January.
Speaker 1: You want to sneak into the playoffs based on this schedule,
Speaker 1: have a nice time with Right now is just get
Speaker 1: to Week sixteen and have that Cowboys game be the
Speaker 1: game that the sides of the division. I think I
Speaker 1: think they got a chance Tantic to say something about
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Kyle Allen isn't as bad as everyone thinks
Speaker 1: he is either, I don't. I don't understand that one.
Speaker 1: He gets talked about like he's one of the worst
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. Their deeps just an average quarterair
Speaker 1: defense is quite possibly worse than their offense. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's largely because of Christian McCaffrey. But to me, that's
Speaker 1: why the Panthers are a disappointment. They got Vernon Butler
Speaker 1: and Bruce Irvan coming off the edge. This used to
Speaker 1: be a group that, you know, people were excited about.
Speaker 1: There also was a news item that dropped just about
Speaker 1: now on the Redskins that Josh Norman will be playing
Speaker 1: in this game, but he will not be starting, So
Speaker 1: Bill Callahan announced basically they have benched old Josh nor.
Speaker 1: One of the moves Christian McCaffrey put on a linebacker
Speaker 1: last week, it was like a stutter step in an
Speaker 1: explosion into the end zone. It was like, that's the
Speaker 1: one I called Eric metcaffean on Sunday because it was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Their schedule gets a little easier here. He could he
Speaker 1: could really go make a run at the yards from
Speaker 1: scrimmage record. All I'd say is there like a Joey
Speaker 1: Sly personal meltdown and a Drew Brees one minute drill
Speaker 1: from having beaten the Saints and us thinking about them
Speaker 1: a little different by slide guy. Slide Guy still has
Speaker 1: a job too, doesn't he. He was like before that game,
Speaker 1: he was number one in PFF's kicker ranks. I think, well,
Speaker 1: they brought in another. They brought in some competition to
Speaker 1: test out all right to the primetime games. Um, yes,
Speaker 1: no Niners, Ravens. We get Patriots Texans, which is a
Speaker 1: battle to first place teams. So it's not like we're
Speaker 1: outing the cold on this should be a very good game.
Speaker 1: And uh again, and I do like what the schedule
Speaker 1: makers are doing this year. Instead of just handing the
Speaker 1: Patriots these teams on a platter for a blood bath
Speaker 1: up in New England, they're putting the Pats on the
Speaker 1: road and saying, Hey, you want to go win in primetime,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to earn it. And that's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna get here because the Texans, Uh, they're a team
Speaker 1: that listen. Historically, the passive owned the Texans, right, all
Speaker 1: the five and O against Bill all the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: five and oh and the Letterman jacket is the low
Speaker 1: moment of this franchise back in the playoffs about five
Speaker 1: years ago. So there's a lot of history there. But
Speaker 1: you still have the Shawn Watson who could be a
Speaker 1: difference maker greg at any against any team. But can
Speaker 1: he do it against the defense as good as the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. Yes, the skill set to do it,
Speaker 1: because I when I look at the Patriots defense, I
Speaker 1: think the things that can hurt them is an athletic team,
Speaker 1: a fast team, an athletic quarterback, a fast quarterback that's
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, and then a team that can go deep
Speaker 1: because no one tries. You know, the Patriots kind of
Speaker 1: set up their defense to prevent teams from even trying
Speaker 1: to go deep, and they're so great at preventing big plays,
Speaker 1: but it's like no one even gives it a shot.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm afraid of as a Patriots fan. And
Speaker 1: the Texans, who have not been good throwing the ball
Speaker 1: deep all year, despite Watson having one of the best,
Speaker 1: you know, deep balls in the league were awesome with
Speaker 1: will Fuller back in the lineup, and now that he's healthy,
Speaker 1: they're a different group. You have Kenny Stills, you have Hopkins,
Speaker 1: and if I'm I'm the Texans, I'm just going bombs
Speaker 1: away and seeing what happens. Will Fuller after that, he
Speaker 1: had to essentially fifty yard touched a fifth yard receptions
Speaker 1: last Thursday against the Colts, and he does completely change
Speaker 1: what that offense is able to do and opens it up.
Speaker 1: He did grab at that hamstring after the second one.
Speaker 1: He did then have also the game ice and catch
Speaker 1: on their final possession, so he stayed on the field.
Speaker 1: You just hope he's able to stay healthy because that's
Speaker 1: been the whole will Fuller thing. He has been as
Speaker 1: good as advertised out of the draft when he's on
Speaker 1: the field, but can he stay on the field, because
Speaker 1: when he comes off the field, they become much more
Speaker 1: predictable on offense. He's kind of like the secret key
Speaker 1: of their offense. Greg has often talked about the people
Speaker 1: who have the best success against the Patriots are former
Speaker 1: Belichick defensive coordinators like Matt Patricia. Romeo Cornell was the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for the Texans, and even though they've been
Speaker 1: owing five under Bill O'Brien, I remember a shootout with
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson in Foxborough that was in the thirties
Speaker 1: both teams, and I also remember some playoff games, or
Speaker 1: at least one where Da Devian Clowney was wrecking Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's life and making the game a lot closer than
Speaker 1: it should have been. And I'm gonna lock up the
Speaker 1: Texans in this game with all due respecs. You're a
Speaker 1: man of your word, was and I respect that well,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, what am I gonna do? Faul even
Speaker 1: further into last place? This is bold. This is the
Speaker 1: stuff that a team in the locker room rallies around.
Speaker 1: With all due respect to the Patriots defense and coaching
Speaker 1: which is number one and number one. I don't trust
Speaker 1: their offense at all right now, and I do trust
Speaker 1: the Texans offense a little bit. I don't trust their
Speaker 1: offense either. But if we're gonna look at the Eagles
Speaker 1: and say they played two games in windy, bad conditions,
Speaker 1: so did the Patriots. Way, it's you know, and as
Speaker 1: someone who played, I don't know if you remember that
Speaker 1: I had a pretty productive popcorner career. I played a
Speaker 1: game or two in that way, you should maybe like
Speaker 1: setting out a picture of like that's gonna say, did
Speaker 1: you see that picture? I get that actual team I
Speaker 1: did not play. I just simply was put into uniform
Speaker 1: and they listed my height and weight is much bigger
Speaker 1: than actual reality. But I mean, it helps to get
Speaker 1: out of those elements. No more fogged cameras watching Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: you know, throw for what fifteen yards and the midway
Speaker 1: through the second quarter fast start would be helpful. That
Speaker 1: is a very fair point about the weather. But this
Speaker 1: offense was struggling mightily even before they started getting weather games.
Speaker 1: They they're like, we've said, there are a different team,
Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of amazing how they're winning games.
Speaker 1: I mean, it has a lot it's other teams would
Speaker 1: have a totally different record if they were hamstrung by
Speaker 1: their offense to this one has. I do think, first
Speaker 1: of all, Doorset and Um the news availability is a
Speaker 1: huge factor, and I kind of doubt some who's gonna
Speaker 1: play in this game, but you know they would give
Speaker 1: a big boost. I do think that the concern about
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense is just a tad overstated. Wait, they're
Speaker 1: the worst. They're the worst Patriots offense in a long time,
Speaker 1: and they are having to be resourceful. But I don't
Speaker 1: think they're bad offense. I think they're an average too
Speaker 1: slightly better than average offense. Their their tenth or twelfth
Speaker 1: in the year in d v o A. They've they've
Speaker 1: managed to be efficient, they don't make penalties, they don't
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, and they've they haven't been great,
Speaker 1: but they've also like made a lot of big plays
Speaker 1: in key spot. It's not a good offense, but I
Speaker 1: think in in better conditions against some bad opponents like
Speaker 1: the Texans defense, I don't think this is a good
Speaker 1: Technans defense. So I do think we're gonna get a nice,
Speaker 1: fun Sunday Night classic that al can enjoy which with
Speaker 1: a lot with some points where where people come out
Speaker 1: of this, whether the Patriots win or losing, saying, okay,
Speaker 1: Patriots offense turned around, I actually has a Patriots fan
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about this one. Maybe a little too good.
Speaker 1: We could use a Sunday and Monday could have been
Speaker 1: to the best games of the year, and we're both
Speaker 1: total splatterfests, so it'd be nice to get like a
Speaker 1: SNF banger in a big spot. They were enjoyable in
Speaker 1: a different way, but it feels like we haven't had
Speaker 1: a lot of classics that go down to the last
Speaker 1: minute on these primetime Deshoun Watson coming off, you know,
Speaker 1: one of one of his worst games as a pro
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and then you know, an up and down
Speaker 1: game I would say against Indianapolis where he could have
Speaker 1: been picked off three times. Go go after these cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots rush five every down. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have one on one matchups, and I love Jonathan Jones
Speaker 1: and Jason mccordy and these guys, but man, one they're
Speaker 1: they're playing one on one so many times. It's like,
Speaker 1: let's let's see some talented receivers try to make plays
Speaker 1: against him. By the way, I mentioned Belichick talking about
Speaker 1: the Keys to Football on the NFL Picks the One
Speaker 1: Greatest Players program that's ongoing here. Um, I just want
Speaker 1: to play because it's fun to listen to Bill Belichick talk.
Speaker 1: Just kind of funny and interesting. You can go all
Speaker 1: the way back to a few hundred years bc um
Speaker 1: san Zoo. The Art of War, attack weaknesses, Utilize strengths
Speaker 1: and figure out what the strengths are in your team
Speaker 1: or some things you have to protect, find the weaknesses
Speaker 1: of your opponent an attack. You can't win a war
Speaker 1: by digging a hole. You gotta attack. So you have
Speaker 1: to figure out where you want to attack, how you
Speaker 1: want to attack, and that changes week a week. It
Speaker 1: bad news. Greg bell O'Brien just transcribed that word for
Speaker 1: work that I need to get her recording for that.
Speaker 1: I mean that talk about something that's going to get
Speaker 1: you in the mood, you know. Well, I want to
Speaker 1: know a little tidbit from the past. Remember that Belichick
Speaker 1: letters thing I did. Yeah, I sent Belichick because I
Speaker 1: knew he loved that book, like a super expensive version
Speaker 1: of the Art of War for Christmas in nineteen three.
Speaker 1: I believe it was who's money with with mine? I
Speaker 1: mean super expensive book. So it was like years old.
Speaker 1: How did you have money? I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: how how I came across the mo whatever, the money,
Speaker 1: the Christmas president, whatever it was. It was a strange
Speaker 1: use of your limited finance. I don't know what did
Speaker 1: you get for your brother that year? Right? I have
Speaker 1: to think that saying, I know I got him a
Speaker 1: gift to any here's a youth spin doctor c D. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I put some thoughts. So what what happened?
Speaker 1: Did you hear back? Well, you'd go, you know, they
Speaker 1: were a little back and fourth things. I think that
Speaker 1: I was again, I was concerned that it was just that,
Speaker 1: you know, probably the you know, I thought his administrative
Speaker 1: assistant probably has the book on her bookshelf. But it
Speaker 1: did get to him. That was Actually they had been
Speaker 1: having a nice exchange, but that was the one that
Speaker 1: ended it. It was that might have added this guy
Speaker 1: after that, like like, okay, this is a little like
Speaker 1: this college freshman at Mimmy, Ohio. Is uh a little
Speaker 1: bit like the Sessler kid? How old is you know? Nineteen?
Speaker 1: So all right, let's cut this off. I feel like
Speaker 1: that whole clipp we just heard was the result of
Speaker 1: Mark sending him that book. Well, I I believe I
Speaker 1: knew they didn't have any rings before them. He already
Speaker 1: had like that book, I believe, Thank you, Mark, you
Speaker 1: are well. I hope I didn't create all that that alright.
Speaker 1: Last game Vikings at Seahawks. Uh, this is a good one,
Speaker 1: although I worry now we can't talk. We gotta stop
Speaker 1: talking about it after every time now West, but Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins is a prime time on the road against a
Speaker 1: good team. Now I will say this, I will talk
Speaker 1: about it as a thing still though, because but he
Speaker 1: did he though, because the Cowboys are kind of you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know though the Seahawks moving the goal post is
Speaker 1: pretty much the number one thing we do with Kirk. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: how about now nine in two Seattle, very the loudest
Speaker 1: building in the in the game. People of Kansas City
Speaker 1: might disagree. Uh, this is a This is a very
Speaker 1: tough spot for any quarterback. And the Vikings, who we know,
Speaker 1: kick ass at home where they are I believe five
Speaker 1: and oh, but they've been the middle of the road
Speaker 1: team away from their building. This is a tough assignment.
Speaker 1: Whereas last week's Monday night matchup was clear to me
Speaker 1: going in. It was one dominant team against one very
Speaker 1: disappointed overmatch team in the Rams. This is two very good,
Speaker 1: legitimate playoff teams getting healthy. Adam feeling is supposed to
Speaker 1: be back. According to rap Sheet, there is one issue
Speaker 1: there reading right now actually that he was sideline Wednesday
Speaker 1: with a in quotes slight scare incident attached to his
Speaker 1: hamstring problem. So if you do it again, if he
Speaker 1: hurts it again, he could be done for the season.
Speaker 1: That is a tough situation. Rap Sheet is not responsible
Speaker 1: for set packs that happened during practice or ask uh.
Speaker 1: And then the Seahawks, this team we said for the
Speaker 1: first ten or eleven weeks no pass rush. They have
Speaker 1: nobody over five sacks, they can't get anything going. And
Speaker 1: then Clowney have one of the best performance of the
Speaker 1: season against the forty niners. And last week, even without Clowney,
Speaker 1: they had a really good pass rush against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: So maybe they have fixed that and they are no
Speaker 1: longer a bottom third defense like they were earlier in
Speaker 1: the year. I I think adding quandary digs and in
Speaker 1: their safe group and now their linebackers are. It is
Speaker 1: interesting that the Seahawks the last two weeks, the defense,
Speaker 1: I think has played their best two games of the
Speaker 1: year in a row, and the offense maybe has played
Speaker 1: their worst two games of the year in a row. Now,
Speaker 1: one of them was against the forty niners, and so
Speaker 1: you you give them a pass, but they were They
Speaker 1: were pretty dominated against the Eagles as well. It took
Speaker 1: a trick play to get the early touchdown. They had
Speaker 1: eight first downs in their first eight drives. I think
Speaker 1: their offensive line has been a problem all year. So
Speaker 1: it's just a team that's changing. But I've I've learned,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not on Seahawks corner, and I've learned,
Speaker 1: you know, stop stop looking for logic. I feel like Russ,
Speaker 1: Russ and petn't about that logic. You just have faith
Speaker 1: in what they do. And if you if you have
Speaker 1: faith in belief, d v O A d g A.
Speaker 1: F uh. Yeah. I thought, for the first time maybe
Speaker 1: in his career, I thought Rashad Penny showed that he
Speaker 1: deserved more carries. He had legitimate juice in the in
Speaker 1: last week's game, and Carson had more fumbling problems. They
Speaker 1: have sixteen takeaways in the last six games to the
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense. And we saw that against the Niners. We've
Speaker 1: seen you know, they they made it real rough on
Speaker 1: the Eagles last week in bad weather again, but they're
Speaker 1: to have the defense start to you know, climb up
Speaker 1: this way is a game changer. I I still think
Speaker 1: they can win this division, and I said yesterday I
Speaker 1: do think they will win it. Well, they could be
Speaker 1: in first place. There have a chance to get in
Speaker 1: first place going into it. Well know, the Vikings are
Speaker 1: a weird team to me because they're kind of like
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins as a team. They're really good in every area,
Speaker 1: but nothing about them is great. Like they're they're a
Speaker 1: pretty good run defense, pretty good past defense, pretty he is,
Speaker 1: but they're running game overall is it's it's up. It's
Speaker 1: a little up and down. They've been. They've been shut down.
Speaker 1: I guess that's fair. But they're they're very balanced, but
Speaker 1: not not like since stational on anything that I picked
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks originally on my picks, and then I realized,
Speaker 1: like why do I keep doing this? I'm going I'm
Speaker 1: fighting and get it right. At some point, I fighting
Speaker 1: against the gods and and then I flipped it at
Speaker 1: the last second. Now here at the Seahawks corner. We
Speaker 1: we appreciate that. Wait, you're on it too. What I thought?
Speaker 1: Dan invited me in to take the spot and jumped
Speaker 1: and he quit Seahawks corner right. I knew that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you were like the one standing
Speaker 1: on the corner waving people in for the bit saky
Speaker 1: is he doesn't actually care. I've been there before. Jadeveon
Speaker 1: Clowney came to town. I said, Greg, I know you're
Speaker 1: looking at this in August and you're seeing a team
Speaker 1: that's not that good. They always figure it out, and
Speaker 1: I will take your spot. You're right, And then I
Speaker 1: gave Gregg the opportunity to come join me. But Greg's like, no,
Speaker 1: I I like what I like? So I said, do
Speaker 1: you want Mark to take Greg's room and board and
Speaker 1: then mark him I stay corrected, apology, I made my
Speaker 1: You know, I decided forty Niners rams you know it's
Speaker 1: not it's not looking good. I reversed the order there, Greg,
Speaker 1: I just meant that I was thinking more of the
Speaker 1: Monday night game. The forty Niners team was the kind
Speaker 1: of the one that I'm I'm believing in long term.
Speaker 1: But although I'm still trying to make sense of that
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson miss of Jacob Hollister. That was like in
Speaker 1: Pleasantville when Paul Walker gets told that she won't go
Speaker 1: out with him, and then nobody can make a shot
Speaker 1: in the gym anymore. Like it was baffling. I've never
Speaker 1: seen Russell Wilson, well, who knows what happened, so robotically
Speaker 1: beautiful with everything he does on the football. I think
Speaker 1: it was because he rare motally planning to run that
Speaker 1: touchdown in and he could have, and then he saw
Speaker 1: how open Hollister was, and then in that moment he
Speaker 1: just it was like too easy. It was too easy
Speaker 1: to throw and he just like it made me seems
Speaker 1: like the last second decision that went wrong kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yet that was also a wind tunnel. It was a
Speaker 1: terrible throw. I mean, he made a lot of great
Speaker 1: throws in that game that made me question the world.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, WHOA, what's going I mean, I've
Speaker 1: seen quarterbacks on on Cleveland that that's there were sort
Speaker 1: of there line that's how they throw most throws. So
Speaker 1: you had Russell Wilson, then guy Josh Shaw started a
Speaker 1: game or something. Now for the probably I don't remember him,
Speaker 1: a cornerback safety. All right, that's it. We'll be back tomorrow. No,
Speaker 1: tomorrow's Thanksgiving. That's nice. Celebrate it with your family. Listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast first, or if you have a family
Speaker 1: dynamic that's unhealthy, are toxic in some way, get your earbuds,
Speaker 1: your headphones and put them in your ears when you're
Speaker 1: sitting at the table, and just eat the food, which
Speaker 1: will probably be what you came for anyway, along to
Speaker 1: my story where I'll be putting on stories about my
Speaker 1: smoked turkey. Look at that. There you go. We've got
Speaker 1: your whole day planned out, and then Friday come back for.
Speaker 1: Then we'll get that up pretty early in the morning
Speaker 1: on Friday. So come back for the Friday recap of
Speaker 1: the Thursday games. All right, that's it. Stand hands and
Speaker 1: signing off for a quiet during the mail man the
Speaker 1: old Boss Rick Hollywood behind the glass. Happy Thanksgiving everybody
Speaker 1: still Friday m