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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is the new whole of

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Well, welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, presented by the United States Marine Corps.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansons. I'm joining room. I'm just

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Speaker 1: uh filled with heroes, Mark Seessler, Chris Wesley, Greg ros

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Speaker 1: with thought. What is up? Boys? Hey dude, I just

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Speaker 1: had an amazing conversation with a very famous X Raiders

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Speaker 1: employee over the phone. Who was Amy Trask's first story

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Speaker 1: working on Wow j Work, Little journal work. What's the story?

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Speaker 1: I'm not what. I'm not ready to reveal what the

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Speaker 1: story is about yet, but it's going to be explosive,

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Speaker 1: you know what. It has been revealed. I do want

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Speaker 1: to say thank you to the listeners who said they

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Speaker 1: we are on episode today. It was double confirmed, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's enough. One more Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: few more people check it out. But if that's true,

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Speaker 1: that would in our thousand episode. Would be sometime in

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Speaker 1: the off season April or May. I could figure it out,

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Speaker 1: but you know, we won't do that right now. And

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Speaker 1: we're already in the works of maybe doing some big

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Speaker 1: time plans. Even the Shadowy League figures don't know about this.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna present this idea to them of what we

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Speaker 1: want to do, but thank you. I'm sure it will

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Speaker 1: be met with a shrug and a yeah, let's do

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Speaker 1: a follow up meeting about this, and then it will

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Speaker 1: be September in week one. That that's just a guess,

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Speaker 1: but maybe I'll be proven wrong. Some of the lesser

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Speaker 1: enthusiastic Shadowys have been vaulted out of the company's hemisphere.

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Speaker 1: Some of them vaulted themselves out of the hemisphere West.

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Speaker 1: I imagine after yesterday's huge announcement that the Paramour is

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Speaker 1: with Child, what a life changing experience that will be

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Speaker 1: for you that you got a lot of feedback from

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Speaker 1: the general general populace. I did, and I'd like to

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Speaker 1: thank all of them for the messages on Twitter, the mes,

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Speaker 1: sages on Instagram, text messages. Thank you all. Keisha and

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Speaker 1: I are over the moon West and I had a

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Speaker 1: couple of drinks of the Cozy Classy moved by the

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Speaker 1: way to handle your way to have the Christmas lights

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Speaker 1: up there to celebrate what. No, but the woman behind

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Speaker 1: the bar, which I'm sure you know her well, Mark

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Speaker 1: the woman behind the bar, her husband puts up the

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Speaker 1: lights every year for the past like twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: And he's doing it tomorrow, I believe, or not tomorrow

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Speaker 1: why don't pick stuff what we can get? It makes sense,

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Speaker 1: makes sense. He's so that put the nails in the

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Speaker 1: eliminated because there was a big, huge controversy over UM

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Speaker 1: UH to have some drinks on the EVA Thanksgiving a

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Speaker 1: Newish tradition, and I had thrown out the cozy because

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Speaker 1: There was some more misinformation because Colleen was, you know,

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Speaker 1: at you of course? Yeah? Remember you said, I all

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Speaker 1: people want and guess where we're going. Where I suggested

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Speaker 1: to work. It is the show's a day earlier because

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Speaker 1: of the Thanksgiving holiday. The week thirteen previews upon us.

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Speaker 1: Uh tomorrow, no excuse me, Friday, you will hear the

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Speaker 1: recap of the three Thanksgiving games that we previewed on

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Speaker 1: yesterday's show. Mark and I will be handling those duties.

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Speaker 1: But until then, we have uh more games to get to.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's over for the buys. There's no more buys.

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Speaker 1: Mixed feelings about that. Thirty two teams, three games Thursday.

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Speaker 1: or incorrect that's correct, I fag I've had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good math season. Yeah. I mean you've done that specific

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Speaker 1: fun of you twenty years late. Greg, are you coming tonight?

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Speaker 1: You get off the off the hook? No, I am gonna,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come. I'm no. I have not made any

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Speaker 1: But then then I'll come afterwards. So I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: We have the game of the year on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: what's happening with this. We have a lot cooking. Mark,

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Speaker 1: that was Cynthia Freeland made uh this point uh this

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Speaker 1: Joe Buck Troy Aikman game. If you believe that they

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Speaker 1: dangerous offense. If you can't beat Duck Hodges with Jude

427
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: Juice Smith Schuster and James Conner both looking like they're

428
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 1: gonna miss this game too. We won't know until Sunday,

429
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: but it's not trending in the right direction. Give me

430
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: a break. This is a very winnable game. I don't

431
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: care that Myles Garrett isn't there. Good offense should beat good.

432
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry.

433
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: That's that's an all star team and they're playing Hodges,

434
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Samuels, Deonte Johnson, Tevin Jones. It's no competing the

435
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: old Dr Jack style. Tale of the tape come on,

436
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: and he had to. He did what he had to do,

437
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin by keeping Mason Rudolph on the bench. Uh.

438
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: It also eliminates a distraction with the um, you know,

439
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett fiasco around that game coming. That would I

440
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: think it just would have been a talking point around

441
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: the game. Uh. Hodges made one big throw and that

442
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: was one more than Mason Runoff had made in several weeks.

443
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: So he's the right guy to go to. I just

444
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: wonder if this is going to be It's amazing and

445
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier in the season, Greg with this defense,

446
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: what a shame it is if you're a Steelers fan

447
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: that if you still had Big Ben uh And and

448
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: maybe you have a little better injury luck, you you're

449
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: an a f C powerhouse. But we've gotten to the

450
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: point where the Pittsburgh Steelers are just living and dying

451
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: on a guy that was undrafted and didn't even get

452
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: an invite to the Combine. And that's what has come

453
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 1: to for Pittsburgh. He represents a Hail Mary and all

454
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: they need him to be and pray for him to

455
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: be is not embarrassing, But you can't rule that out

456
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: is something that could happen. It's there in his toughest

457
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: spot as you can imagine, and he's playing without potentially

458
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: his best wide receiver and his best running back the Brown.

459
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this should be an easy win for the Brown,

460
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: but we said that about Cleveland. I could still I

461
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: could see this game should be. It doesn't mean it will.

462
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it will be. I think it's I

463
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: could see this being seventeen to sixteen the Steelers is

464
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: not easy, So I respect that they're gonna keep it

465
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: or try to keep it close. Keep the score down.

466
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: But Baker Mayfield too, Like, how are you feeling about

467
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: Baker right now? I mean, this is a game, you know,

468
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: in his maturation process, he's had some ups and downs.

469
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 1: It's trendy in the right direction, where a really good

470
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: quarterback goes and make sure they win. I feel better.

471
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: I just wonder if what the coaching is behind the

472
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: scenes there. It's been a really up and down season

473
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: for someone who I thought would be an NFL's clear

474
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: cut star at that position. Right now, all right, let

475
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: us move on now now this is all strategy. I

476
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: would not have taken that Browns game anyway, because I

477
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: know I need to be watching Niners Ravens hopefully will

478
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: be also watching Jets Raiders, so I gotta keep my

479
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: TVs open there. Uh So I will go to the

480
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: Lake games and we got a nice late game staring

481
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: at me at Arrowhead, Raiders at Chiefs. I will select

482
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: a three overall, and I think this is a game.

483
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: Let me talk about what the desert saying what people expect.

484
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: After the Raiders lay an absolute stink bomb at the

485
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: meadow Lands against the Jets, loose third for three, the

486
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: quarterback gets benched in the third quarter, just an embarrassing

487
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: loss that really completely recalibrates um uh, the ceiling for

488
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: the Raiders in the eyes of many. But I I

489
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: hold onto the idea that every team has bad weeks,

490
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: and some weeks are worse than others. And and that

491
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: was the Raiders bomb of the year. And I think

492
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: they are going to put up a really good fight

493
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: in this game, because, first of all, the Chiefs have

494
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: not shown shown me this season that they can go

495
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: out and just kill somebody. Um. They've played a lot

496
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: of close games this season, and the Raiders know full

497
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: well the stakes here. If the if the Chiefs uh

498
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: win this game, they're eight and four, the Raiders dropped

499
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: to five hundred and six and six in the division

500
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: is essentially gone. So this is a huge game. I

501
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: expected to be an extremely close game. Uh. And I'm

502
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: wondering if you guys are in the same camp or

503
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: do you think that this is the pumpkin The Raiders

504
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: have turned back into a pumpkin and the Chiefs are

505
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: going to blow them out, because I understand that's side

506
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: of it as well. Well. You say the Chiefs aren't

507
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: really playing dominant games, but these two teams have played

508
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: before and it was a dominant game by the Chiefs

509
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: in which the Raiders secondary was just blitzed by the

510
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: Chief's offense a long time ago. That was the point

511
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: second quarter that they had big play after big play

512
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: after big play, and the Raiders secondary is still not good.

513
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: They're very susceptible to the big play. This is a

514
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: big play passing offense. Tyreek Hill uh appears that he's

515
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: gonna play in this game, and he's so key to

516
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: them that are healthier coming off the by Damian Williams

517
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: might not play, but I do think it's just a

518
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: match of problem for them that the Raiders have survived

519
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: against okay offenses that just don't have enough to blitz.

520
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: They're really talent poor defense overall, and I think Paul

521
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: Gunther and Mike Mayock, uh, you know, added some talent.

522
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: Gunther's coached up what's not a super talented defense, and

523
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: so they survive against the teams that aren't explosive. But

524
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: then you play the Chiefs on the road and uh yeah,

525
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I could look in the mirror

526
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: and because to me, this is like a big game.

527
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: But my Vegas test says it says that I couldn't.

528
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: I just think the Chiefs start their steam roll of

529
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: the December and they this is not close, and the Raiders,

530
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, their their hopes go up and smoke. Yeah.

531
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: My concern for the Raiders is watching that Jets game.

532
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: And we can get to the Jets later that there

533
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: were a lot of bad drops, obviously, but I thought

534
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: that Oakland was just pushed around by the Jets on

535
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. And you mentioned Greg that

536
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: they're all The Raiders offensive line hasn't been itself the

537
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, and that's a huge concern. And

538
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: there's too many weapons and they would to me, it

539
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: would be a devastating loss. If I'm a Chiefs fan,

540
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: if they if they fall at home in this thing,

541
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: I just you they lost this game, they then go

542
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: to Foxboro the next week and all of a sudden,

543
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: it's all hanging in the balance and they would be

544
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble. I I don't see that happening,

545
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: but I do. I think the Raiders have surprised this

546
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: all season. I know they are much better, much better

547
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: home team, win or lose, They're a great story. I

548
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: think they'll be able to move the ball and score

549
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: some points in this game. They take those long drives though,

550
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: and those long drives better. I think that's just tough

551
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 1: to do against Kansas. That also keeps sating money. They

552
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: have to end in touchdowns though, or else you're just

553
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: taking these long drives and falling further and further behind. Uh.

554
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Bengals had some you know,

555
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to understand if they did something

556
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: schematically their defense really molly whipping the Raiders molly wop

557
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: molly whopping was one of the most surprising things I

558
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: saw in terms of he went for it. He said,

559
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, by the way, molly whipping when you hit

560
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: someone this side of the hand bang molly. It feels

561
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: like I'm phrase that probably shouldn't it's probably should be retired.

562
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't know the background history of it. All that

563
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: up to see. If it is on my work computer,

564
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: you think that's okay. I think it was retired until

565
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Greg brought it back into the lexicon. You try to

566
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: give it a more modern tweak. The origin of molly

567
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: whop if you if you could, Ricky or just give

568
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: it to the listeners to do and they'll handle it

569
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: by to night. What was your point. I don't even

570
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: think it matters anywhere. I don't know what the Bengals did.

571
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: They took this Raiders team soul for some reason. It

572
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: was one of the most surprising things I saw season.

573
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: Was their defense really dominating in that game and then

574
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: the and then the Raiders come out with the stink

575
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: bomb again. I don't know if they showed something, but

576
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: they're not keeping up. According to Urban Dictionary, molly whop

577
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: verb when a grown man beats another grown man as

578
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: if he were a girl under the age of ten. Yeah,

579
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: that's not an appropriate girl under the age. All right,

580
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: glad that we should move on to my picks for one.

581
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: Al Right, Greg, go ahead, I'm just going let's retire

582
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: molly whop society. It's gone. Sorry, guys, Sorry Molly. I'm

583
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: gonna take Rams Cardinals. Yeah, I'm taking Rams Cardinals at

584
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: four oh five. I like this game. I like I

585
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: want to like game that that I'm gonna be interested in.

586
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: And uh, there's only three there and this is kind

587
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: of I know the Rams look like their season is done.

588
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: It probably is, but this is the true last Dan

589
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: and if they lose here. It's totally over. And one

590
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: of the more surprising things I think in the NFL

591
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: this year is that the Cardinals offense is right now

592
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: better than the Rams offense. Who would have thought that

593
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: going into the year that not only the Cardinal's offense

594
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: is better, but the Cardinals offense, led by Kenyan Drake

595
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: with David Johnson flat out benched, is better and that

596
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds is coming back this week. I don't know

597
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: if you know David Johnson, who was a top five

598
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: fantasy pick, is gonna get on the field too much.

599
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: This is the number two rushing offense, largely because of

600
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, and they can throw a lot of creative

601
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: runs at you, just like the Ravens did on Monday Night.

602
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: I think it's a toss up. I I don't totally

603
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: poured dirt on this Rams team. They should be able

604
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: to score some points against Arizona. I don't have a strong,

605
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, feel of who's gonna win this game, but

606
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: Arizona has been close in so many games that it

607
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: really does feel like they're due to have a good

608
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: win and this would be uh a humbling moment I

609
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: think for the Rams. If they end up losing this game.

610
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: There was a Todd Gurley run which got lost in

611
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: the blowout loss. It's like a fifteen yard run early

612
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: second quarter that I thought was the most explosive he's

613
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: looked all year. And I went back and watched a

614
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: few times because I was like, that doesn't look like

615
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. The last two weeks he's looked pretty good. Yeah,

616
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: I think I think he's starting to finally play like

617
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: we would say earlier in the year. He's not any

618
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: better than the Malcolm Brown or Darrell Henderson, and I

619
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: think now you I saw a difference between Gurley and

620
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown in that game. There was also a long

621
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: third down run where long third and long, where they

622
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: gave the ball to Gurley when it looked to me

623
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: like a clear passing situation, and they they raised the

624
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: point on the broadcast that does Sean McVeigh really trust? Yes,

625
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: it was on Erica's probably as they dug in on

626
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: this game. That's surprising, did a very nice job with that.

627
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: You and m on the wrap up, But dude, that

628
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 1: does Sean McVeigh trust Jared Goff at this point? That's

629
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: kind of Sean mcveigh's move even last year when things

630
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: are going well, he calls conservative plates. But I don't

631
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: outside of that, you shouldn't trust him because I think

632
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: there was some plays in that game, like there was

633
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: a third and long near the goal line where the

634
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: Ravens blitz and everyone's been killing the Rams o line

635
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: all year. They picked the blitz up perfectly. Goff had

636
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: all the time in the world. He had Cooper Cup

637
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: one on one, and his timing on the throw the

638
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: cup was just totally off. And I'm just thinking, like,

639
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: that's a play they hit eight out of eight times

640
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: last year, seven out of eight times, and Golf like

641
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: rushed the throw even though there's no pressure there. I

642
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: know that's just all on God. Yeah, I think to

643
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: your question, like I am, I shocked at the Cardinals

644
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: offenses productive and exciting. That was one of the two

645
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: things that was going to be that or a big flop.

646
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: I felt like it what we just didn't know, and

647
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: that was one of the off season questions. It's one

648
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: of the shocks of the league that the Rams are

649
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: as un ooyable to watch as they are. And next

650
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: offseason what I'm gonna try to spend more time on

651
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: is looking at teams where the offensive line has been shattered,

652
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: because that seems to be the earmark of you're going

653
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: to get a lot more disappointment than you thought, because

654
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, you know, where we were with

655
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: Shaan McVeigh year ago is that he's a genius, and

656
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that suddenly changes because the Rams aren't good,

657
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: or that he's not skilled or he's been unmasked nonsense.

658
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: He's a great coach. But like I don't see the

659
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: adjustments from Super Bowl on. There's just doesn't seem to

660
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: be the situational adjustments where the Rams come out in

661
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: the second half and fix what we're seeing in the

662
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: first half. And their off season issues with their draft

663
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: picks and the fact that you traded for a quarterback

664
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: who has made about a billion less plays in the

665
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: quarterback you shipped at, cornerback you shipped out of the

666
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: house is concerning. They have a lot of issues to

667
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: deal with beyond whether or not they make this playoff

668
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: party and get wiped out in the first round. We

669
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: already do that with offensive lines in the off season.

670
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: It's just it's really hard to predict right well, and

671
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: you may do it a little more than now I want.

672
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the Sessler decides. Could I could

673
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: not imagine. I could not imagine a task that I'm

674
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: less I'm more ill fitted for. It's just that it's

675
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: going to be something I monitor to the best of

676
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: my abilities. The other team in this matchup is the Cardinals,

677
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: who we said off season has one of the worst

678
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: offensive lines. We can't trust it. Well, I think their

679
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: quarter of their quarterback who's not you know, Jerk Goff's

680
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: not gonna scamper around the field the same way Kyler

681
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: Murray is a little bit to do that. You have

682
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: to deal with Kyler mary what he might do on

683
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: every play scheme can make the old line look a

684
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: lot better. I think quarterback. I think McVeigh has helped

685
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: along that line at least in previous years, and I

686
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: think Kingsbury the Rams were hyper aggressive for multiple years.

687
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: Once McVeigh took over in and the sun started shining

688
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: and less need especially going into last season with the

689
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: Sioux signing and moves they would continue to make even

690
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: this year, going to get Jalen Ramsey, all these moves that, um,

691
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: we're real lee in service of getting over the hump.

692
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: I wonder what happens down the back end. And I

693
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: know that the salary cap keeps going up and that

694
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: that aids in terms of the margin for error for

695
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: a GM. But if Jared Goff is not the guy,

696
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: they just signed him to a huge contract. I just

697
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: looked it up on spot rack Todd Gurley. They can't

698
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: even get out of that contract. Uh, they don't have

699
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: a potential out until two. That doesn't mean they'll find

700
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: a way or just take the pill and move on

701
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: at some point, but they invested a lot of stuff.

702
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, they give him a contract, Yeah, he controls

703
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: the promised they wouldn't hold out. Oh yeah, we could

704
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: trust him on his word. But it's just like, what

705
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: what is this team going forward? I think it's one

706
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: of the more interesting offseason storylines. I do too, But

707
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: I also think the enjoyment a lot of people have

708
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: had this week saying that no team is in a

709
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: worse position long term and that they have so many

710
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: problems because of the Golf Gurly contract and no flexibility

711
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: and no picks, I think it's overstated. I think teams

712
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: have a lot more flexibility than you realize, and teams

713
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: do change from year to year, you know, good and

714
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: bad that we've seen, and that they that they can

715
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: fix something like it's it's like, let's throw up their hands.

716
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: They're done for four not no team. How about among

717
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: the teams that you'd say have a lot of promise

718
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of time. I would give them some

719
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt because they took over a Jeff

720
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: Fisher team and turned into the most consistent winner in

721
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: the NFC for two years. So yeah, I think they

722
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: could They could change in the positive ways though, A

723
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: snakes to you, Well, I'm gonna take the Buccaneers Jaguars

724
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: and h No one expected that. And you know why.

725
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: It's because this this bozo on the internet is saying, Oh,

726
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: I bet Greg's just gonna take something. Watch watch the

727
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: old Ravens forty niners. That's a good idea. I should

728
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: just take another game like Bucks Jaguars early and watch

729
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: a little Ravens. You're doing what I like to do, yea. Yeah, look,

730
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: watch a little Ravens forty niners on the side too. Sorry,

731
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But I didn't really have that

732
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: idea until he gave it to me. And as Lucas

733
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: as bad teams go, Bucks Jaguars is absolutely my kind

734
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: of game because, uh, I do enjoy watching the stylings

735
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: of Jamis Winston. I want to see, uh whether win

736
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: or lose. That kind of curious of what's happening with

737
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: this Jaguars team, whether they just totally get flushed down

738
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: the toilet or falls has some moments as a as

739
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: a match before and seven teams Go, I'm in. One

740
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: of my favorite sound bites of Week twelve was after

741
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: the win over the Falcons and which Winston played well.

742
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Bruce arians was asked about his optimism level around Jamis Winston,

743
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: whether he was a half cup, half glass full guy,

744
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: half glass empty. Here's what he had to say, glass

745
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: is full as hell and it's gonna get real full

746
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: in a minute. What does that mean? I think that

747
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: means he's about to have a nice, big celebration drink.

748
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: He's gonna drink. He's optimistic and he's gonna drink, which,

749
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: you know what, That's definitely what it is. And Bruce

750
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: likes to have a good time. Why did I My

751
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: mind went to he was making a p joke. That's weird,

752
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he that's the first, That's what

753
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: I thought he was the first, like he was like,

754
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm about to fill to the brim, Like what at

755
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: in that moment? How else would you feel a cup?

756
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: He famously tailgates in the parking lot with friends and

757
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: you know, uh family after after wins. Not I got

758
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: I got something such a good guy on this podcast

759
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: he would be great. I got some bad news for

760
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: Bucks fans. Jamis always plays his best in December when

761
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: they're out of the playoffs. Every year. Every year he

762
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: starts playing great, I think. And then number two if

763
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: you listen to Arians and Jason Light and then also

764
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: some report in Tampa, I think there's a greater chance

765
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: than people realize that Jamis will be back because Brucie

766
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: just says they can talk to themselves into anything filled

767
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: to the brim with optimism, which is crazy to me

768
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: because Arians has a finite amount of time here. He's

769
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: I think sixty seven years old. He's gonna need results

770
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: in year two and you're really going to die on

771
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: that hill? Is that where he's gonna go when the

772
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: games left? Unfortunately, I think those five games will make

773
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: a big determined you know. I by the way, I

774
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: don't think he will. I think he'll go with somebody else.

775
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: But there are there are options on the market in

776
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: this officer I talked about that. Is he really gonna tie?

777
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Perhaps his final NFL head coach,

778
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: his final coaching job, potentially to Jamis Winston, is he's

779
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: seen enough positives that weigh the negative. It's all. It

780
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: all depends. I think Bruce arians is a veteran quarterback

781
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: kind of dude. He's good. If anything, he's gonna want.

782
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: He'd flipped out Jamis Winston for someone you can trust.

783
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: So we need to see you because the other side

784
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 1: of this with Nick Foles. And I know it gets

785
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: too boring to keep talking about Nick Foles over and over,

786
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: but I thought the thing it could come in and

787
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: do was help Jacksonville's red zone offense. And his touchdown

788
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: percentage is two point nine, which is drastically lower than

789
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: Minsho's four point two. Right now, and speaking of keeping

790
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or thinking about the quarterback position, are we just

791
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: stuck with Nick Foles for the rest of the year

792
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: no matter what, just because I edit he's a great guy.

793
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: He's a great locker room glue guy, and he's very

794
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: good at giving postgame speeches that we all love. And

795
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: he did great in the Eagles. He want a super Bowl.

796
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: But this is not working to me right now, and

797
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: and so what do you just you just stick it out?

798
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: This offense with him under center. It's not just him,

799
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: but this offense is a cure for insomnia. They are

800
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: they are so boring. Leonard Fournette is two thirty pounds

801
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: and he dances too much. Uh, Chris Conley, maybe he'd

802
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: make plays if he had DJ Shark's hands, but he doesn't.

803
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: Right Like, Foals puts up a nice pass early in

804
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: the game and it goes off of conley shoulder. And

805
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: I watched that game, and I'm granted, I'm biased. I'm

806
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: thinking Folds is gonna do well. I said that I

807
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: I like watching him play, but I really tried to

808
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: watch him throw to throw and thought like, is he

809
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: playing poorly or not? And I didn't think so. I

810
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: thought he played a pretty solid game. I go check PF.

811
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: He has a plus one on the day because he

812
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: was in third and eight. Every they're down three and

813
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: they're going run, run, screen, pass, punt, They're they're they're

814
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: down you know, at one point four teen three and

815
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: they go run run, like, uh, you know, not not

816
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: a screen pass, but another thing where it's like a

817
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: short pass and you're trying to set up the blocking

818
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: and he has a couple of throats and it's just

819
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: like a terrible offense and it's the worst rush defense

820
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: in the league. And it just feels like, yes, falls

821
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: is not helped them. I get it. They also didn't

822
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: score a touchdown and three of eight Gardner Minshew starts,

823
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: it just feels like the quarterback thing is a distraction

824
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: from what is a territist team. I have to just disagree.

825
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: I that's fine, that's just saying here's here, there's energy,

826
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: here's here. You've been rolling like, yeah, I love here's

827
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: the thing, here's the here's the stat that he started.

828
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: He started a game, he played, he played, he played well,

829
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: but I agree that he played really well. But he

830
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: started eight games and three of them they didn't score

831
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: a touchdown. In two more of them they scored one touchdown.

832
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: So that's a lot of his starts that their offense

833
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: as a whole was terrible. And and the same as

834
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: continuing with Nicks, his great starts were great. I think

835
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: the Minshew maniacs. I get it, but there's so much

836
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: wrong with the Jaguars right now to point to the

837
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: quarterback position and say that's what Because we spent twenty

838
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: minutes on their run defense on Sunday, I just want

839
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: to bring up the same exact topics their defense. Absolutely,

840
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: or maybe they're not worth any time at all. We

841
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: maybe we've given them more than enough time on the show.

842
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: My thing is more, are my thing is more between

843
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: now and the rest of the year. Are we just

844
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and say Nick Foles is the answer

845
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: because we paid them all this money. I mean, you

846
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: might have to, but I just don't trust Nick Foles

847
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: a long terms. Minshew could be a range linebacker. Also,

848
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: this team is gonna be But you put Dan you

849
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: have to admit that you have been looking for Minshew

850
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: negatives to you. You didn't come in with a totally.

851
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: I have a little annoyed by Minshew. I never bought

852
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: into him as a savior of the franchise. That but

853
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't because you guys disagree doesn't make me wrong.

854
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: I think it's not. Doesn't make you wrong. But as

855
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: a low as a low round rookie, I think he

856
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: had one of the more exciting seasons. I am here.

857
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: See that's where the disc I see that, and I

858
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: respect that for sure. Is any rookie he played, he

859
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: played better than most rookies you'll see in a giving year,

860
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: I agree, but better than Baker Mayfield for half the

861
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: like Falls has looked rusty, especially in his first there.

862
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: I really think if you watch last week's game, it

863
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: just wasn't about the quarterback last week. That's all all right,

864
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: So let's move on now. As part of our trademark,

865
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: I will move ahead of you, and let me just

866
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: make a clear The conditional pick we talked about Steelers

867
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: Browns has to go to overtime on Sunday, and if

868
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: it does, next week your number two pick. You're picking

869
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: two overall. We swap with my final round pick, number nine,

870
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: so you would get the ninth pick and I would

871
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: get your second pick. I don't understand the motivation, but

872
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: in this condition, it just seems like random. It's like

873
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: throwing a condition in a trade. It's like if Matt Castle,

874
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, throws two touchdowns in week seven, then we

875
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: get a fourth round pick. It this doesn't really like

876
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: I got brown Steelers. I'm willing to be totally controlled.

877
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: You can drag me around and do what you want

878
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: with me. For the rest of it, I'm not tracking anything.

879
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's an overtime win, That's what I Overtime win

880
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: for the Browns is what we all want on Sunday.

881
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. Um All, Right now, the

882
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: pick is the Jets at Bengals. Okay, so um, here's

883
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: the thing. I'm trying not to get too caught up

884
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: in the Jets right now. But I I struggle with

885
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: this because I think, by my nature, I'm an optimistic

886
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: person and that carries over to my fandom, and I

887
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: tend to see the good with my team more than

888
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: I can see the bad sometimes. Uh, and the Jets

889
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: are so there was so much bad I couldn't miss

890
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: it earlier in the year. And I killed them earlier

891
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: in their season, just like everyone else. But when you

892
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: watch them, um over the past three weeks and especially

893
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: less two weeks and especially less week against the Raiders,

894
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: it's fairly remarkable to me how they've cleaned up their

895
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 1: deficiencies um so well. And the deficiencies were in three

896
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: major areas. Quarterback where Sam Donald had been a mess

897
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: for most of you know. Obviously he was dealing with Mono.

898
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: He wasn't right Week one, he missed three weeks, he

899
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: had the good Cowboys game, and then went into a

900
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: bad place for three weeks stretch. There he is now. Um,

901
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: not only is he playing largely mistake free football, Uh,

902
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: he is doing the things that kind of made you

903
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: excited about him last December. Uh, just being a smart quarterback,

904
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: be able to throw from different arm arm angles, be

905
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: able to evade the rush, make plays on the move. Uh.

906
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: Basically just look like the guy that Jets fans uh

907
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: fell in love with at the end of the last season.

908
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: The next up is the offensive line. Matt Khalil, who

909
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: I mentioned this was a guy that um that Joe

910
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: Douglas brought in late. Not only was he a guy

911
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: that didn't work out, apparently his style of play was

912
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: leading to even more confusion. They now have an offensive

913
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: line that is not star studded, but they are playing

914
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: really well and they were giving them time to do

915
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: things like for instance, if you watched the Raiders game,

916
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell using him, splitting him out and getting

917
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: to do different things. What was happening was the offensive

918
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: one was such a wreck. They were doing this Max

919
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: Protects set up, which led to Bell being inside blocking often.

920
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: And what we saw last week was Levy on Bell.

921
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: Not Pittsburgh Steelers Levy on Bell, but a guy that

922
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: was making plays again, so you're seeing it there. And

923
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: then in the in the back end of the secondary,

924
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: you have two guys and and bless him, Austin Austin

925
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: and Arthur Milette who have all of a sudden turned

926
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: into real players over the past three weeks. Maybe it's

927
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: just a small sample sized thing, but they have been

928
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: guys that you would think we would be picked on,

929
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: but instead they have held down the secondary. And then

930
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, the quote unquote cliche movable chess piece. Uh.

931
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: Greg Williams has done a good job maximizing his incredible ability.

932
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: So it's turned the Jets into I think a good

933
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: bad team. I think they're better than all the bad

934
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: teams in the league. And uh, I'm excited about them.

935
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with what you said, because I

936
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: feel like that Oakland game was the most confident I've

937
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: ever seen Sam Donald play. And when he is, uh,

938
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: you know, when he does have someone in his face,

939
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: his quick release is a difference maker, and like he

940
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: his downfield accuracy in that game was uh tangible, and

941
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: there's no reason they shouldn't sweep up uh the Bengals,

942
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: who have played better the last couple of weeks. I mean,

943
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: I guess, like they say, if you what is that saying,

944
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: if you hang around the barbershop long enough, you're gonna

945
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: get a haircut at some point. So maybe the Bengals

946
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: get a win at some point. They're running into the

947
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: Jets the wrong time. Had they run in the Jets

948
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: in week five, maybe difference everything I've just said, And Greg,

949
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: you could talk about your point in a second, because

950
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I like the one you made downstairs. Everything I just

951
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: said holds true that I'm confident going to Sunday. But

952
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: this is a historically a typical game where the Jets

953
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: flop and everything gets wiped Away's like you've lost the

954
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: two winless teams this month and all that stuff. And too,

955
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: I hate that Andy Dalton is now back in the

956
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: lineup because he gives the bank was a better chance

957
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: to win organizationally. By the way, it's terrible look for Cincinnati.

958
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: I thought just that they couldn't even do this right

959
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: and give the kid a longer look he's a rookie.

960
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: They move them out and they go back to Dalton

961
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: and Dalton is just being jerked around at this point.

962
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: But your point about Dalton, I thought it was a

963
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, I I put some stock into a point.

964
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Phil Sims or Dan Fouts.

965
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: Was one of these, you know, color guys to do

966
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: the games. Who who says when you're a starting quarterback

967
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: after they've been benched and they come back into the

968
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: lineup at some point, it's like a huge weight has

969
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: been lifted off your should. You've been a starting quarterback

970
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: your whole life. Your biggest fear in all of football

971
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: is that you're gonna get benched from high school to

972
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: college into the pros and you're a franchise quarterback and

973
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: then it finally happens, like the axe swings on you,

974
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: and it happens, and then you end up starting a

975
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: few weeks later, and it's like, oh, the world didn't end.

976
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: I got nothing to lose right now, and you you

977
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: start playing a little freer, a little better, and Andy

978
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: Dalton's a lot better than Ryan Finley, and I don't

979
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: kill the Bengals actually for what they did. It just

980
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: because they wanted to take a look at Finley and

981
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: maybe they were more optimistic than they should have been,

982
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: and he was clearly not ready. And you still got

983
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: five games left and oh and sixteen is forever. Go

984
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: try to win some games. My problem is you they

985
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: started listening to the fans. It might be ownership. That's

986
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: the move they made. Is a move from mid December,

987
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: not in October. Totally. Yeah, it's like the Bengals, though

988
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: I could see them. They play the Jets, and let's

989
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: say if anything ever happened there that Dan would not like.

990
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: They played the Dolphins and I could see them splitting

991
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: with Cleveland. Suddenly they go three and thirteen, don't get

992
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: the first overall pick, and you're back, potentially with Andy

993
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: Daltons are quarterback next year. It's kind of the most

994
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: Bengal thing ever. But it's that could be Adulton's legacy.

995
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be back almost no matter what,

996
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: although I guess you never know, you're right. I wouldn't

997
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: say that with them, but they had I think there's

998
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: a dangerous game for the Jets because as much as

999
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: I totally agree with all the good things that Jets

1000
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: have done. They've played four of the worst five or

1001
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: sixty defense in the league. Uh, And so if they

1002
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: I think they're kryptonite is facing a real pass rush.

1003
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Bengals actually have one, either, but

1004
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: I think if, if, when they play a team with

1005
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: a real pass rush, then we'll see with the progress.

1006
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: I think, Darnald, Darnald, that's for real. The defense is

1007
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: absolutely overachieving. I think if the Bengals, you know, guys upfront, Hubbard,

1008
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: dun Lap, and Atkins have played pretty well the last

1009
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. All right, let us move on now

1010
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: to Chris Westling with his second pick. Right, isn't this Mark?

1011
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Mark Sessler, I'm sorry in my original slot, Mark,

1012
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: you're up? All right? Well, I'm taking that four pm

1013
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: East Coast PM West Coast Chargers Broncos. It's a smart, uh,

1014
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: a schematic approach. I never thought it would be available

1015
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: to me, So I'm pleasantly surprised. The draft is going

1016
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: very well. Uh, except the game itself, like a guy

1017
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: Drew Lock maybe, well, the game itself is is about

1018
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: as depressing as a Charger's Broncos game could be in

1019
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: early December. The charges have killed themselves and I I

1020
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's to me looking at Philip Rivers,

1021
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: I guess the thing. He's seven interceptions over the last

1022
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: two games, and a lot of them have been, you know,

1023
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: not just tips where it's not they've had to do

1024
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: with his his lack of ability to peg targets. And

1025
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: it's not the same Philip Rivers. And I don't like

1026
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: watching quarterbacks that have been in our life for fifteen

1027
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: years playing at the highest level. He's never missed a

1028
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: game starting to show elements of decline. I don't know

1029
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: if he's hurt or there's something else going on. This

1030
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: has happened to Philip Rivers before. He had that one

1031
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: season where everyone thought he's done, and then he was

1032
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: comeback Player of the Year the next year. So I

1033
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: don't know what the future is. But the most ridiculous

1034
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: the words ever given, well that was, but but the

1035
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: point is he did he did play us so much

1036
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: better the next year, Like he came back from the

1037
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: year that he just threw like seven more interceptions. Some

1038
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: guy came back from the quadruple a C L M

1039
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: C LPC L there and he's like, what that was

1040
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: the year? There was like really legitimately no competition for

1041
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: that award, so don't give it out. How about Drown

1042
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: James coming back in this game? There there's something that's

1043
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: they can watch for. Darrown James is playing football for

1044
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: Truelock if it's terrible timing for true luck if he

1045
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: does start for dinner. As we're taping there, the Broncos

1046
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: are not announcing their starter, but they're saying that they're

1047
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: the reps will be split between Drew Lock and Brandon Out,

1048
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: which is a strange one, but usually the idea is

1049
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: if you haven't announced your starter, that means you're making

1050
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: a change, like you never don't announce it when you do.

1051
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: But if you're, if you're deciding to go with Drew Lock,

1052
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: you would give him all the reps, wouldn't you, right?

1053
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: I think what I think, my guess is that he

1054
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: is going to get most of these reps that you know,

1055
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: the media doesn't get to see it anyways, and that

1056
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: barring him like just you know, being terrible and practiced

1057
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: for some reason, then that he's a starter. You guys

1058
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: want to hear something uncomfortable always. I love ringeworthy radio

1059
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: interviews that go wrong, and uh, this does not involve

1060
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: a game or previewing, So I'm just gonna stick it

1061
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: in here and bears defensive lineman Achem Hicks on the

1062
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: wattle and still show this week. Let's play that clip

1063
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be the office level awkward. Here we

1064
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: go off the band wagon. Ride with us. We're down

1065
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: right now, we know that, and we're fighting to get

1066
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: back up, So roll with us. We didn't do this

1067
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: on purpose. We didn't try to get ourselves in the situation,

1068
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: but we're doing everything that we can to climb out

1069
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: of this whole, So be supportive. You mean you didn't

1070
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: put your arm in between those two raiders and it

1071
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: popped out a joint on purpose? I can't find No,

1072
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: I'm joking, Hey, who, that's a joke. No, that's why

1073
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: I said. I'm not that's about somebody's injury. No, no, no, no,

1074
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm perfectly respectful. I'm perfectly respectful. But I'll tell you

1075
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: what you will not joke. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I

1076
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 1: didn't you have a blessed day. This is the last

1077
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: time I'm on this radio station. Are you. Yes, it

1078
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: was the Michael Scott School of cringe comedy right there.

1079
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: Then he has like another two and a half hours

1080
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: of radio to do. You know what, I would love

1081
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: to hear that the next minute after that, I want

1082
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: to see how I'm just like so coming up in

1083
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: the next hour we talk about the weird thing is

1084
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: and Erica, you brought it up before we started, like

1085
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: it might not have been like a good bit, but

1086
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: it was. He didn't mean anything, right, it was like, hey,

1087
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me you purposely didn't pop out

1088
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: your arm, Like of course people need to support He

1089
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: was trying to support his point with something lighthearted, and

1090
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: I guess to to Hicks's point, when you suffer a

1091
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: painful injury on the football field, that's never laughing matter.

1092
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: But also it's like, dude, he didn't mean anything by it,

1093
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: but it was so funny. He could have gone club

1094
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: direction a million different ways. Not the moment of the

1095
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: season that devastated this man, you know what I mean,

1096
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: and like ruined. He's miserable for months on end because

1097
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 1: of this moment. At the end, he's like, oh key, yeah,

1098
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't feel good after that. I feel bad that

1099
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: I want to watch like, uh, like I would start

1100
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: documentary about that. Oh, I would never listen to that again.

1101
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: I I love that so much and I want I

1102
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: can't wait. It's gonna happen eventually. We don't have a

1103
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: ton of guests on the show, but it came somewhat close.

1104
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Mark back on the A T L Debate Club days

1105
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: when I called Richard Sherman stinky Davis like, he kind

1106
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: of paused for a moment and then he's like, I'm

1107
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna let this nobody. He had also come in and

1108
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: read and that was back when a lot of the

1109
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: bulk of our work was writing. Richard Sherman ask you know,

1110
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: controversies with other players. So he's like, oh, I've read

1111
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: all your articles. So he he clearly had a handler

1112
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: that had given him four or five stories each. Here's

1113
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: the two clowns. You're about bozos. You're about to sit

1114
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: down and chat with and but but he didn't. He

1115
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: didn't come after, he didn't walk away. Was gonna happen

1116
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: one day with the closest and it wasn't really it

1117
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: was just awkward because he wasn't interested in it. Wasn't

1118
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: that Sean Jeffreys, the outside Jeffrey where he was on

1119
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: the phone, and uh, he seemed to be barely paying

1120
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: attention to what we were doing, and we were just

1121
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: like I had to repeat questions. What was that? Sorry? Man,

1122
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: I was trying my shoes. He was like, what it was?

1123
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: Five minutes out show? Do you think he was running late?

1124
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: Actually I know what it was, and now I think

1125
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: I remember he was gonna be on Total Access. You're

1126
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: supposed to be in studious in the studio, but he

1127
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: was running late. He missed the car, so instead of

1128
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: coming into the studio to do five minutes with us.

1129
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: They're like, we could do on the phone. You could

1130
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: do them on the phone, run the way to the

1131
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: NFL network. And that didn't work out either, because he

1132
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: was obviously anyway, one day we'll get our team Hicks moment, Uh,

1133
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: and West might die. That's what I've played today, all right,

1134
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: who's up West? I thought this game would go earlier,

1135
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: but I realized I'm the only Titans fan in the room,

1136
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, Titans. That cool. That's a good game. Though.

1137
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: It's a good pick in this uh, at this juncture. Yeah,

1138
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be stuck with the three early games in

1139
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: New Lakey. I don't know, that's gonna be tough. With

1140
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: the game of the year. I know, I see what

1141
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: you guys are doing. I don't blame you could have

1142
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: made that trade, I know. But you know we will

1143
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: get through this. It'll be all right. Did you know

1144
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: the last sixteen game sixteen games going back to last year,

1145
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry has over sixteen hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns,

1146
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: which is two hundred yards more than Zeke Elliott. I

1147
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: shared a similar stat last week, and then he had

1148
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: another monster week. He's been a stud ten more touchdowns

1149
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: than Zeke Elliott on the ground in that span. Derrick

1150
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: Henry is playing awesome and you can see his explosiveness

1151
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: as he runs through the hole and gets to the

1152
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: second level. These big plays aren't just miss tackles. They

1153
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: are him exploding through holes and out running Pete. There

1154
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: are got the best of farm in the game. There

1155
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: are guys that it's proven over the years that they

1156
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: have better numbers and they play better late in the season.

1157
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is one of those guys, and now he's

1158
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: on a team. And I don't know if it's Tannehill

1159
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: that unlocked it or it's just a little bit of

1160
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: luck for Tannehill and Arthur Smith the coordinator, but they

1161
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: have a bunch of guys who can go to the distance. A. J.

1162
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: Brown is an explosive player, Henry is an elusive player.

1163
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: Um Corey Davis occasionally can be an explosive player. Johnny

1164
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: Smith made some big plays. You know, it's it's just

1165
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: like one thirty yard play per week, but even that,

1166
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: you know that's big and and it's all happened with

1167
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: Tannehill that they're kind of a big play type of team,

1168
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: which you don't think of when you think of the Titans.

1169
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we're part of where my Nick Foles

1170
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: uh Anti nick Foles takes coming out of the game

1171
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: was well, no, it was because of the way Tannehill

1172
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: played in that game and the way he's played producing

1173
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: big plays in an offense where that all time do

1174
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: too much. I mean, to his credit, but I will

1175
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: give him this, like when he ran for that touchdown

1176
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: and just kind of way he throws his body around,

1177
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: and the color guy in that game was like, that's

1178
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: how you win over your entire locker room with that

1179
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And I do think that that the

1180
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: Titans have been galvanized by him. It's funny to me

1181
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: that these two teams at six and five. If this

1182
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: were the Cowboys Eagles, it would be treated like the

1183
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: sequel to Titanic, and it's like one of four games

1184
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: we have left because I guess there's just not a

1185
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: lot of juice around a FC South rivalries in general.

1186
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: But this is one of the better games of the week.

1187
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: Titanic to Leo, Leo's back from from the water cure

1188
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: from the Black Lagoon type figure, like his body was

1189
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: frozen and the cryogenical I got it. And then they

1190
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: bring him back. He comes back from the dead and

1191
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: he wants revenge on Kate Winslet's character for not Yeah,

1192
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: because she wouldn't let him on that piece of wood

1193
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: and there was plenty of room for him on the

1194
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: piece of wood floating in the icy Atlantic, and he

1195
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: just floated off. She took the whole piece of wood.

1196
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: So he's going to come back for her. Zane. You

1197
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: bring Billy Zane back, you haven't seen him in a while,

1198
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: get some revenge on him. That's a very different him

1199
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: to that movie Zombie went down. He went he went

1200
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: down with as well. Yeah, I mean they were in

1201
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: love as he as they were partying way until she

1202
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: broke his heart. We're old enough Erica that I don't

1203
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: know if other people here have these memories, but I do.

1204
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: I remember going to another movie the week that or

1205
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: the week after Titanic came out. Eventually did see in

1206
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: the theater too, and they were just like lines of people. Yeah,

1207
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: the movie had been out for a week or two,

1208
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: lines of people in West Springfield, Massachusetts, you know, waiting

1209
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: to get into the tight into Titanic for like an hour.

1210
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: But whatever happened, Yeah, younger like Erica, people your age

1211
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to be the people your age guy,

1212
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: but like a true monoculture um phenomenon can't I don't

1213
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: think it can happen the way it happened with Titanic,

1214
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: where it actually just completely took over society as this

1215
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: all incumpassing, encompassing, uh phenomenon that everyone had an opinion on,

1216
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: people saw multiple times. Nine. I had just a little

1217
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: like to put you in the moment. That was a

1218
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: senior of high school and my second semester elective course

1219
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: was film study, and it was, you know whatever, it

1220
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: was just gonna go watch. I'm sure like a couple

1221
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: of Hitchcock movies and maybe watch you know, Spielberg movie

1222
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: whatever it would have the course, they swapped it out

1223
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: and then just made the whole class about Titanic. And

1224
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: it was a class trip to see Titanic. It was

1225
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: making a video documentary about Titanic, and we all played

1226
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: different characters. That's you feel like the original version. I

1227
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: feel like you had to learn more from the original

1228
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: version of the class. I would have preferred that, um,

1229
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: but that's how big Titanic was. And now the way

1230
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, things have splintered with the media the way

1231
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: it is now, I just don't think that ever happens again.

1232
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I waited at midnight to see Twilight.

1233
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: Twilight Twile is huge, but it doesn't hold a camp

1234
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: to my point, has been completely sideswiped by a South.

1235
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: Things have happened to it. Sorry. Leading the league in

1236
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: yards per tempt the I got no time for that film,

1237
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: and I believe I saw a stat that in four

1238
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: of US five starts, the Titans are top five yards

1239
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: per play in the entire league. I want to know

1240
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: what uh t Y Hilton shows up, because when he

1241
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 1: was active for that game, against the Texans. I thought

1242
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: maybe that swings that game, but he ended up not

1243
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: being the real t Y. Hilton a couple of drops

1244
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: and not nearly as explosive, couldn't win one on one

1245
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: and they didn't even send him on. Will Fuller was

1246
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: was the key to that game. And I just if

1247
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: you don't have the real t Y, especially a Dorri

1248
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: Jackson who's playing pretty well lately and matches up with

1249
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: him usually, you know, this just isn't the same Colts team.

1250
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: I know. We got Jonathan Williams who spice racks guy

1251
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: in the backfield on time. Listeners will remember our friend

1252
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: Brad Spicer the spice rack. He called Jonathan Williams is

1253
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: emergence four years ago. It took a little while, but

1254
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: now he otherwise that appearance was a real iceberg in

1255
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: the way of the ship performance by Spicy, but he

1256
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: nailed the Jonathan Williams take years ago. Come back to

1257
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: l a spice rack. Apparently he's been in like Cincinnati

1258
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: for two months and no one knew. I invited him

1259
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving and he said chance will be in l

1260
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: A and then to me a few days later and said,

1261
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 1: I think I'll stick it around with my family in Cincinnati. Well,

1262
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: thanksgivings for family. Yeah, I was surprised that he was

1263
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: thinking about leaving his family just to come to l A.

1264
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: For takes. Happy holidays to spice wreck wherever he is. Yes,

1265
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: and how about put a little spice on your turkey?

1266
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: You're you know, the bland bird. That's what we get.

1267
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: We get a little uh, we get a spicy turkey.

1268
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's the way to go. A little

1269
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: smoked spice in there. I have no time for the

1270
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: cliche this time of year. Turkey, it's terrible. I don't

1271
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: need any on my plate. Get out of here. Agree

1272
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: that it's like anything. That's how you prepare it. If

1273
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: you don't prepare it, well you're it's on you. About

1274
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: West preparing to turkey, I know he can be great.

1275
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: Oh I'm I've got the brine going right now. We're

1276
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: smoking it tomorrow, we get it all. We're gonna have

1277
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: it ready. Damn, that's gonna be good. I'm frying my

1278
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: first turkey. Me and Bob in the garage where I

1279
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: do the throwback podcast. We talked about it on the

1280
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: pot a lot that I was eventually gonna burn down

1281
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: that garage in the rage. This might act really happened

1282
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow the garage gets burned down in a fried turkey accident. Yeah,

1283
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: don't put it in frozen. It's gonna be raining, so yeah,

1284
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: but like the garage is gonna smell like grease for

1285
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: like months and months at good point. Can maybe this

1286
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: is where we're doing our follow up pod the day after.

1287
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know why this seems still workplace. It's pretty

1288
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: much marks nightmare, like a lingering smell of meat twenty

1289
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: five minutes of like fried turkey smell. Okay, I like

1290
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: to do it, lady, all right, West, it snakes to you.

1291
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 1: West has like nine games, I know, And I thought,

1292
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: I'll save the Eagles Dolphins for someone else, because someone's

1293
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay close attention to Carson Wentz and

1294
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: that Eagles offense to break it down. So I'll save

1295
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: that for you guys. I'll take Packers Giants. Wow. Okay,

1296
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of an upset there. The way you

1297
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: set it up, it was like only one man can

1298
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: watch the tape and really know what's going on, and

1299
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: that man is Chris. I would feel irresponsible if my

1300
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: third game was watching Carson Wesson trying to figure out

1301
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: what was wrong with him, so it's better off if

1302
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: someone else does. And the Giants, I I think I

1303
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: said last week that Daniel Jones doesn't really qualify as

1304
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: exciting for me, and that's true, but maybe I'm being

1305
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: a little hard on him considering what's going on with

1306
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: that offense. Evan Ingram's not playing. It seems like every

1307
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: other week they have a concust wide receiver. Se Kwon

1308
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: Barkley is nowhere close to what he normally is. He's

1309
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: running as if he still has that same explosive jump

1310
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: cuts and springy legs, and it's leading to a lot

1311
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: of negative plays because he just can't get out of

1312
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: those situations he used to get out of. Although I

1313
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: find the sae Quon Barkley conversation strange, like all the

1314
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 1: Giants fans, he's like, well, he he must be hurt.

1315
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: He's not the same guy. But then there's you know,

1316
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: seventy yard runs that he makes, and then there's plays

1317
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: where he ult I get it, but there's some place

1318
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: where he looks pretty great to me, and and he is,

1319
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, not making yards after contact. I don't know,

1320
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: It's just like running backs play hurt first of all,

1321
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: so that's how you get and the ankle sprint can

1322
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: ruin a whole season, and maybe that is it. I guess.

1323
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: I just I see some really good plays from him,

1324
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: So that's where I get confused. It's like, Okay, on

1325
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: that play where he looked amazing, is he that's the play?

1326
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: He's not injured. It's just that part of it's a little.

1327
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, his yards per attempt last four games three

1328
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: point three seven, dip down to two. He had that

1329
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: game where he had thirteen rushes for one yard, which

1330
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: gave him a zero point eight yards per attempt, and

1331
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: then three point four seven. If that were someone not

1332
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: named Sequon Barkley, we would I'm not saying what he's

1333
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: jump cuts from even last year. He's just not production

1334
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: though he was a boomer bus guy that had a

1335
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: ton of negative plays and a ton of one yard games,

1336
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: and and that guy overlooked. It's like a quarterback with

1337
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: a strong arm, like you're a boomer bust quarterback because

1338
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: you play that style, you have the ability to do it.

1339
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: But he doesn't have the ability right now to get

1340
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: out of the trull well that he used to put

1341
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: himself into for risking the big play. It's a great

1342
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: uh get right matchup for the Packers often too, I'm

1343
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: a little getting a little worried about, but not when

1344
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: they're playing the Giants. Yeah, it's not a it's a

1345
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: there's get right games. It feels like get right festival

1346
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,479
Speaker 1: and you hope it. But but the Packers also feel

1347
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: to me like fair for getting right. Yeah. Glocklin headlining,

1348
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: that's exactly about late period Lilith, I'm talking it kind

1349
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: of lost it a little bit. I went either the

1350
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: first or the second Lilith Cowboys McLaughlin head line. Liz

1351
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: Fair was there. That's that was really my Tory Amos

1352
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: was there Bridge Tori Amos back in the day it

1353
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: was that it was hawkinses Beach, you know, a regular Hawkins,

1354
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: Sophie B. Hawkins. That almost made um our version of

1355
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: the throwback pipe really dating or something? Damn I wish

1356
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 1: I was you know the no what's the different one? As? Okay,

1357
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: four non blonds was there? Yes? What happened to that girlfriend? Greg?

1358
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: Can you isolate West as? Oh? Yes? For future games?

1359
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: Concrete blonde? Alright, let's move on West. You really made

1360
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: a great point about we're gonna be tied up with Niners.

1361
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: Ravens Zeusser's whole life is on the line with the Jets.

1362
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: Do I really want to take that responsibility of letting

1363
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: the people know whether Carson Wentz is broken or fixed?

1364
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: People are gonna want to know answers, and I won't

1365
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: be able to give it to him. So I'm gonna

1366
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: go ahead and take the Redskins at Panthers and and

1367
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: and you know, be professional about it and keep my

1368
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 1: eye on the game and read up on it afterwards

1369
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: and then report to give a dispatch come Sunday night. Um,

1370
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: but I just you know, the Eagles and Carson Wentz,

1371
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: that's too big a story in the NFL right now,

1372
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: A lot of responsibility. So I'm gonna pass that responsibility

1373
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: off to someone I trust, which is Mark Sessler. Well,

1374
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: I know we'll be able to focus on that game

1375
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: extremely well. I mean, here's the way this works. Number one.

1376
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: Let's are you talking about both these games right now?

1377
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: Why not? Let's do it. Obviously get to these good

1378
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: prime time we can mismatch through them. I mean, I

1379
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: I would have imagine I'm the last person the listener

1380
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: would pick to diagnose quarterback issues among the show or

1381
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere close to the bottom. But I'm going to

1382
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: do my best and I'm gonna give it my certain

1383
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: energy and joy for the sport will decide by the

1384
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: way who comes in last. There we'll find out the

1385
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: health of the Eagles, though should take anywhere watchable. Now

1386
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: we're doing a new thing. We're talking both of these

1387
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: games at once in short order and get into the

1388
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: nice prime time Well you can bring it back to

1389
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: el Sean Jeffrey a little right there there. The Eagles

1390
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: are getting healthier. It looks like they're gonna have Alshan Nelson,

1391
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 1: agil Are, Lane Johnson and Brandon Books back Jordan Matthews,

1392
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: which that's pretty significant. And their defense right now, to me,

1393
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: is playing playoff level defense where they should both lines.

1394
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: They should be able to win a game on their

1395
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: own in in Miami, even if it's not fun. If

1396
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: this game is thirty five nothing Eagles, I'm just gonna

1397
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: tell you, Carson Wentz looks good. I think my take

1398
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 1: on this is that everybody overreacted to Carson Wentz playing

1399
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: in the win two weeks in a row with bad

1400
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: wide receivers, no running game, even with the jadeveon Clowney out,

1401
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: Seattle's defensive line dominating up front against the Eagles offensive line,

1402
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: and what's going on with that offense is the opposite

1403
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: of symbiotic. It's like each bad group is making the

1404
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: other group's job way harder because they're all underperforming. And

1405
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is now living under a black cloud. Well

1406
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: if the Eagles, and I'm super down on them, but West,

1407
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: you might be right. Maybe it's just a two week

1408
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: sample size that we need to issues just like but

1409
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: I mean the Eagles general, are they in the league

1410
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: or something? Right? Are the Eagles done well? They get

1411
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: like we're saying at Miami, Miami's had two really bad

1412
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: losses back to back, and their two and nine, then

1413
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: they get the Giants at home, the Redskins on the road,

1414
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys at home, and then at Giants. This season is

1415
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: not broken beyond repair in terms of a chance to

1416
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: make the playoffs because the Cowboys have been so unpredictable

1417
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: and that's why Jerry Jones should be mad. This division

1418
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: race should be over and they've right, so the Eagles

1419
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: have a chance to hang around and maybe even steal

1420
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: the NFC East If they can just take care of

1421
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: their business. But the question becomes, is Philadelphia, specifically on

1422
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: offense broken beyond repair itself, so we'll see. I just

1423
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: feel like they're being removed from the story in terms

1424
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: of teams we can trust as being there in late January.

1425
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 1: You want to sneak into the playoffs based on this schedule,

1426
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: have a nice time with Right now is just get

1427
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: to Week sixteen and have that Cowboys game be the

1428
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: game that the sides of the division. I think I

1429
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: think they got a chance Tantic to say something about

1430
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Kyle Allen isn't as bad as everyone thinks

1431
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: he is either, I don't. I don't understand that one.

1432
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: He gets talked about like he's one of the worst

1433
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. Their deeps just an average quarterair

1434
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: defense is quite possibly worse than their offense. I mean,

1435
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: that's largely because of Christian McCaffrey. But to me, that's

1436
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: why the Panthers are a disappointment. They got Vernon Butler

1437
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: and Bruce Irvan coming off the edge. This used to

1438
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: be a group that, you know, people were excited about.

1439
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: There also was a news item that dropped just about

1440
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: now on the Redskins that Josh Norman will be playing

1441
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: in this game, but he will not be starting, So

1442
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: Bill Callahan announced basically they have benched old Josh nor.

1443
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: One of the moves Christian McCaffrey put on a linebacker

1444
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: last week, it was like a stutter step in an

1445
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: explosion into the end zone. It was like, that's the

1446
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 1: one I called Eric metcaffean on Sunday because it was unbelievable.

1447
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: Their schedule gets a little easier here. He could he

1448
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: could really go make a run at the yards from

1449
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: scrimmage record. All I'd say is there like a Joey

1450
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: Sly personal meltdown and a Drew Brees one minute drill

1451
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: from having beaten the Saints and us thinking about them

1452
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: a little different by slide guy. Slide Guy still has

1453
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 1: a job too, doesn't he. He was like before that game,

1454
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: he was number one in PFF's kicker ranks. I think, well,

1455
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: they brought in another. They brought in some competition to

1456
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: test out all right to the primetime games. Um, yes,

1457
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: no Niners, Ravens. We get Patriots Texans, which is a

1458
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: battle to first place teams. So it's not like we're

1459
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: outing the cold on this should be a very good game.

1460
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: And uh again, and I do like what the schedule

1461
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: makers are doing this year. Instead of just handing the

1462
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: Patriots these teams on a platter for a blood bath

1463
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: up in New England, they're putting the Pats on the

1464
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: road and saying, Hey, you want to go win in primetime,

1465
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to earn it. And that's what we're

1466
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna get here because the Texans, Uh, they're a team

1467
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: that listen. Historically, the passive owned the Texans, right, all

1468
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: the five and O against Bill all the way. Yeah,

1469
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: five and oh and the Letterman jacket is the low

1470
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: moment of this franchise back in the playoffs about five

1471
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: years ago. So there's a lot of history there. But

1472
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: you still have the Shawn Watson who could be a

1473
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: difference maker greg at any against any team. But can

1474
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: he do it against the defense as good as the

1475
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. Yes, the skill set to do it,

1476
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: because I when I look at the Patriots defense, I

1477
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: think the things that can hurt them is an athletic team,

1478
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: a fast team, an athletic quarterback, a fast quarterback that's

1479
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, and then a team that can go deep

1480
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: because no one tries. You know, the Patriots kind of

1481
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: set up their defense to prevent teams from even trying

1482
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: to go deep, and they're so great at preventing big plays,

1483
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: but it's like no one even gives it a shot.

1484
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: That's what I'm afraid of as a Patriots fan. And

1485
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: the Texans, who have not been good throwing the ball

1486
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: deep all year, despite Watson having one of the best,

1487
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, deep balls in the league were awesome with

1488
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: will Fuller back in the lineup, and now that he's healthy,

1489
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: they're a different group. You have Kenny Stills, you have Hopkins,

1490
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,799
Speaker 1: and if I'm I'm the Texans, I'm just going bombs

1491
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: away and seeing what happens. Will Fuller after that, he

1492
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: had to essentially fifty yard touched a fifth yard receptions

1493
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: last Thursday against the Colts, and he does completely change

1494
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: what that offense is able to do and opens it up.

1495
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: He did grab at that hamstring after the second one.

1496
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: He did then have also the game ice and catch

1497
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: on their final possession, so he stayed on the field.

1498
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: You just hope he's able to stay healthy because that's

1499
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: been the whole will Fuller thing. He has been as

1500
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: good as advertised out of the draft when he's on

1501
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: the field, but can he stay on the field, because

1502
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: when he comes off the field, they become much more

1503
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: predictable on offense. He's kind of like the secret key

1504
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: of their offense. Greg has often talked about the people

1505
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 1: who have the best success against the Patriots are former

1506
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: Belichick defensive coordinators like Matt Patricia. Romeo Cornell was the

1507
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for the Texans, and even though they've been

1508
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: owing five under Bill O'Brien, I remember a shootout with

1509
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson in Foxborough that was in the thirties

1510
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: both teams, and I also remember some playoff games, or

1511
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: at least one where Da Devian Clowney was wrecking Tom

1512
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: Brady's life and making the game a lot closer than

1513
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: it should have been. And I'm gonna lock up the

1514
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: Texans in this game with all due respecs. You're a

1515
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: man of your word, was and I respect that well,

1516
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 1: it's I mean, what am I gonna do? Faul even

1517
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 1: further into last place? This is bold. This is the

1518
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: stuff that a team in the locker room rallies around.

1519
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: With all due respect to the Patriots defense and coaching

1520
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: which is number one and number one. I don't trust

1521
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: their offense at all right now, and I do trust

1522
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: the Texans offense a little bit. I don't trust their

1523
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: offense either. But if we're gonna look at the Eagles

1524
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: and say they played two games in windy, bad conditions,

1525
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: so did the Patriots. Way, it's you know, and as

1526
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: someone who played, I don't know if you remember that

1527
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: I had a pretty productive popcorner career. I played a

1528
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: game or two in that way, you should maybe like

1529
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: setting out a picture of like that's gonna say, did

1530
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: you see that picture? I get that actual team I

1531
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: did not play. I just simply was put into uniform

1532
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: and they listed my height and weight is much bigger

1533
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: than actual reality. But I mean, it helps to get

1534
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: out of those elements. No more fogged cameras watching Tom Brady,

1535
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, throw for what fifteen yards and the midway

1536
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: through the second quarter fast start would be helpful. That

1537
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: is a very fair point about the weather. But this

1538
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: offense was struggling mightily even before they started getting weather games.

1539
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: They they're like, we've said, there are a different team,

1540
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of amazing how they're winning games.

1541
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it has a lot it's other teams would

1542
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: have a totally different record if they were hamstrung by

1543
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: their offense to this one has. I do think, first

1544
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: of all, Doorset and Um the news availability is a

1545
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: huge factor, and I kind of doubt some who's gonna

1546
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: play in this game, but you know they would give

1547
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: a big boost. I do think that the concern about

1548
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense is just a tad overstated. Wait, they're

1549
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: the worst. They're the worst Patriots offense in a long time,

1550
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: and they are having to be resourceful. But I don't

1551
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: think they're bad offense. I think they're an average too

1552
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: slightly better than average offense. Their their tenth or twelfth

1553
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: in the year in d v o A. They've they've

1554
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: managed to be efficient, they don't make penalties, they don't

1555
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, and they've they haven't been great,

1556
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: but they've also like made a lot of big plays

1557
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: in key spot. It's not a good offense, but I

1558
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: think in in better conditions against some bad opponents like

1559
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: the Texans defense, I don't think this is a good

1560
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: Technans defense. So I do think we're gonna get a nice,

1561
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: fun Sunday Night classic that al can enjoy which with

1562
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: a lot with some points where where people come out

1563
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: of this, whether the Patriots win or losing, saying, okay,

1564
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: Patriots offense turned around, I actually has a Patriots fan

1565
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about this one. Maybe a little too good.

1566
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: We could use a Sunday and Monday could have been

1567
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: to the best games of the year, and we're both

1568
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: total splatterfests, so it'd be nice to get like a

1569
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: SNF banger in a big spot. They were enjoyable in

1570
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: a different way, but it feels like we haven't had

1571
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: a lot of classics that go down to the last

1572
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: minute on these primetime Deshoun Watson coming off, you know,

1573
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: one of one of his worst games as a pro

1574
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and then you know, an up and down

1575
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 1: game I would say against Indianapolis where he could have

1576
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: been picked off three times. Go go after these cornerbacks.

1577
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots rush five every down. You're gonna

1578
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: have one on one matchups, and I love Jonathan Jones

1579
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: and Jason mccordy and these guys, but man, one they're

1580
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 1: they're playing one on one so many times. It's like,

1581
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: let's let's see some talented receivers try to make plays

1582
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: against him. By the way, I mentioned Belichick talking about

1583
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: the Keys to Football on the NFL Picks the One

1584
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: Greatest Players program that's ongoing here. Um, I just want

1585
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: to play because it's fun to listen to Bill Belichick talk.

1586
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: Just kind of funny and interesting. You can go all

1587
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: the way back to a few hundred years bc um

1588
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: san Zoo. The Art of War, attack weaknesses, Utilize strengths

1589
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: and figure out what the strengths are in your team

1590
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: or some things you have to protect, find the weaknesses

1591
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: of your opponent an attack. You can't win a war

1592
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: by digging a hole. You gotta attack. So you have

1593
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 1: to figure out where you want to attack, how you

1594
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 1: want to attack, and that changes week a week. It

1595
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: bad news. Greg bell O'Brien just transcribed that word for

1596
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: work that I need to get her recording for that.

1597
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean that talk about something that's going to get

1598
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: you in the mood, you know. Well, I want to

1599
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: know a little tidbit from the past. Remember that Belichick

1600
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: letters thing I did. Yeah, I sent Belichick because I

1601
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 1: knew he loved that book, like a super expensive version

1602
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: of the Art of War for Christmas in nineteen three.

1603
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: I believe it was who's money with with mine? I

1604
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: mean super expensive book. So it was like years old.

1605
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: How did you have money? I mean, I don't know

1606
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: how how I came across the mo whatever, the money,

1607
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: the Christmas president, whatever it was. It was a strange

1608
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 1: use of your limited finance. I don't know what did

1609
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: you get for your brother that year? Right? I have

1610
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: to think that saying, I know I got him a

1611
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: gift to any here's a youth spin doctor c D. No, No,

1612
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure I put some thoughts. So what what happened?

1613
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: Did you hear back? Well, you'd go, you know, they

1614
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: were a little back and fourth things. I think that

1615
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: I was again, I was concerned that it was just that,

1616
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, probably the you know, I thought his administrative

1617
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: assistant probably has the book on her bookshelf. But it

1618
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: did get to him. That was Actually they had been

1619
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 1: having a nice exchange, but that was the one that

1620
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: ended it. It was that might have added this guy

1621
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: after that, like like, okay, this is a little like

1622
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: this college freshman at Mimmy, Ohio. Is uh a little

1623
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: bit like the Sessler kid? How old is you know? Nineteen?

1624
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: So all right, let's cut this off. I feel like

1625
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: that whole clipp we just heard was the result of

1626
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: Mark sending him that book. Well, I I believe I

1627
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: knew they didn't have any rings before them. He already

1628
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: had like that book, I believe, Thank you, Mark, you

1629
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: are well. I hope I didn't create all that that alright.

1630
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: Last game Vikings at Seahawks. Uh, this is a good one,

1631
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: although I worry now we can't talk. We gotta stop

1632
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: talking about it after every time now West, but Kirk

1633
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: Cousins is a prime time on the road against a

1634
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: good team. Now I will say this, I will talk

1635
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: about it as a thing still though, because but he

1636
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: did he though, because the Cowboys are kind of you know, yeah,

1637
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: we know though the Seahawks moving the goal post is

1638
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: pretty much the number one thing we do with Kirk. Absolutely,

1639
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: how about now nine in two Seattle, very the loudest

1640
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: building in the in the game. People of Kansas City

1641
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: might disagree. Uh, this is a This is a very

1642
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: tough spot for any quarterback. And the Vikings, who we know,

1643
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: kick ass at home where they are I believe five

1644
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: and oh, but they've been the middle of the road

1645
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,919
Speaker 1: team away from their building. This is a tough assignment.

1646
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: Whereas last week's Monday night matchup was clear to me

1647
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: going in. It was one dominant team against one very

1648
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: disappointed overmatch team in the Rams. This is two very good,

1649
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: legitimate playoff teams getting healthy. Adam feeling is supposed to

1650
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: be back. According to rap Sheet, there is one issue

1651
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: there reading right now actually that he was sideline Wednesday

1652
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: with a in quotes slight scare incident attached to his

1653
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: hamstring problem. So if you do it again, if he

1654
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: hurts it again, he could be done for the season.

1655
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: That is a tough situation. Rap Sheet is not responsible

1656
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: for set packs that happened during practice or ask uh.

1657
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: And then the Seahawks, this team we said for the

1658
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 1: first ten or eleven weeks no pass rush. They have

1659
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: nobody over five sacks, they can't get anything going. And

1660
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: then Clowney have one of the best performance of the

1661
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 1: season against the forty niners. And last week, even without Clowney,

1662
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,879
Speaker 1: they had a really good pass rush against the Eagles.

1663
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: So maybe they have fixed that and they are no

1664
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: longer a bottom third defense like they were earlier in

1665
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: the year. I I think adding quandary digs and in

1666
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: their safe group and now their linebackers are. It is

1667
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: interesting that the Seahawks the last two weeks, the defense,

1668
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: I think has played their best two games of the

1669
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: year in a row, and the offense maybe has played

1670
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: their worst two games of the year in a row. Now,

1671
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 1: one of them was against the forty niners, and so

1672
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: you you give them a pass, but they were They

1673
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: were pretty dominated against the Eagles as well. It took

1674
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: a trick play to get the early touchdown. They had

1675
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: eight first downs in their first eight drives. I think

1676
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: their offensive line has been a problem all year. So

1677
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: it's just a team that's changing. But I've I've learned,

1678
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not on Seahawks corner, and I've learned,

1679
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 1: you know, stop stop looking for logic. I feel like Russ,

1680
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: Russ and petn't about that logic. You just have faith

1681
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: in what they do. And if you if you have

1682
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: faith in belief, d v O A d g A.

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01:23:56,040 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: F uh. Yeah. I thought, for the first time maybe

1684
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: in his career, I thought Rashad Penny showed that he

1685
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: deserved more carries. He had legitimate juice in the in

1686
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 1: last week's game, and Carson had more fumbling problems. They

1687
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: have sixteen takeaways in the last six games to the

1688
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense. And we saw that against the Niners. We've

1689
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: seen you know, they they made it real rough on

1690
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: the Eagles last week in bad weather again, but they're

1691
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 1: to have the defense start to you know, climb up

1692
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: this way is a game changer. I I still think

1693
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: they can win this division, and I said yesterday I

1694
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:31,560
Speaker 1: do think they will win it. Well, they could be

1695
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: in first place. There have a chance to get in

1696
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: first place going into it. Well know, the Vikings are

1697
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: a weird team to me because they're kind of like

1698
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins as a team. They're really good in every area,

1699
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: but nothing about them is great. Like they're they're a

1700
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: pretty good run defense, pretty good past defense, pretty he is,

1701
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: but they're running game overall is it's it's up. It's

1702
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: a little up and down. They've been. They've been shut down.

1703
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: I guess that's fair. But they're they're very balanced, but

1704
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: not not like since stational on anything that I picked

1705
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks originally on my picks, and then I realized,

1706
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: like why do I keep doing this? I'm going I'm

1707
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: fighting and get it right. At some point, I fighting

1708
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: against the gods and and then I flipped it at

1709
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 1: the last second. Now here at the Seahawks corner. We

1710
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: we appreciate that. Wait, you're on it too. What I thought?

1711
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: Dan invited me in to take the spot and jumped

1712
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: and he quit Seahawks corner right. I knew that, Yeah,

1713
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you were like the one standing

1714
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: on the corner waving people in for the bit saky

1715
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: is he doesn't actually care. I've been there before. Jadeveon

1716
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Clowney came to town. I said, Greg, I know you're

1717
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: looking at this in August and you're seeing a team

1718
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: that's not that good. They always figure it out, and

1719
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: I will take your spot. You're right, And then I

1720
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: gave Gregg the opportunity to come join me. But Greg's like, no,

1721
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: I I like what I like? So I said, do

1722
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 1: you want Mark to take Greg's room and board and

1723
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: then mark him I stay corrected, apology, I made my

1724
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: You know, I decided forty Niners rams you know it's

1725
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 1: not it's not looking good. I reversed the order there, Greg,

1726
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: I just meant that I was thinking more of the

1727
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: Monday night game. The forty Niners team was the kind

1728
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: of the one that I'm I'm believing in long term.

1729
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: But although I'm still trying to make sense of that

1730
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson miss of Jacob Hollister. That was like in

1731
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: Pleasantville when Paul Walker gets told that she won't go

1732
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: out with him, and then nobody can make a shot

1733
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: in the gym anymore. Like it was baffling. I've never

1734
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: seen Russell Wilson, well, who knows what happened, so robotically

1735
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: beautiful with everything he does on the football. I think

1736
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 1: it was because he rare motally planning to run that

1737
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: touchdown in and he could have, and then he saw

1738
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: how open Hollister was, and then in that moment he

1739
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: just it was like too easy. It was too easy

1740
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: to throw and he just like it made me seems

1741
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: like the last second decision that went wrong kind of thing.

1742
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: Yet that was also a wind tunnel. It was a

1743
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: terrible throw. I mean, he made a lot of great

1744
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 1: throws in that game that made me question the world.

1745
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, WHOA, what's going I mean, I've

1746
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: seen quarterbacks on on Cleveland that that's there were sort

1747
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: of there line that's how they throw most throws. So

1748
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: you had Russell Wilson, then guy Josh Shaw started a

1749
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 1: game or something. Now for the probably I don't remember him,

1750
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: a cornerback safety. All right, that's it. We'll be back tomorrow. No,

1751
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow's Thanksgiving. That's nice. Celebrate it with your family. Listen

1752
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: to the podcast first, or if you have a family

1753
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 1: dynamic that's unhealthy, are toxic in some way, get your earbuds,

1754
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: your headphones and put them in your ears when you're

1755
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: sitting at the table, and just eat the food, which

1756
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: will probably be what you came for anyway, along to

1757
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 1: my story where I'll be putting on stories about my

1758
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: smoked turkey. Look at that. There you go. We've got

1759
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: your whole day planned out, and then Friday come back for.

1760
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 1: Then we'll get that up pretty early in the morning

1761
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: on Friday. So come back for the Friday recap of

1762
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: the Thursday games. All right, that's it. Stand hands and

1763
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: signing off for a quiet during the mail man the

1764
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: old Boss Rick Hollywood behind the glass. Happy Thanksgiving everybody

1765
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:46,560
Speaker 1: still Friday m