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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Is Tracy Sandler here with Buck Rising for Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We are going into week fifteen and there is much

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Speaker 2: to discuss in the NFL. There is much discussed in

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Speaker 2: college football. Heisman Awards given out tonight, So it is

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Speaker 2: a big day at Fox Sports Radio and I am

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Speaker 2: excited to be filling in on this show. This is

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Speaker 2: my first time here, so thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about a crazy week in

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Speaker 2: the world of sports. There were so many things that

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Speaker 2: went on, not the least of which is, of course

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, who's coming out of retirement at forty four

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Speaker 2: years old to play quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. And

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Speaker 2: so that is going to be an interesting one. Let

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Speaker 2: me ask you, Martin, what are your thoughts on mister

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Speaker 2: Rivers coming back to the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think that if I was a thirty year old

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Speaker 3: free agent quarterback right now, I'd be like, what is

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Speaker 3: going on?

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Speaker 2: Oh right, You'd be so upset. I could totally understand that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think about I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what thirty year old three free agent quarterbacks are there?

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Speaker 3: Oh, just you name them? Whoever there's has to be

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Speaker 3: someone out there. But also it's just like this is madness,

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Speaker 3: this is absolute madness, and I'm going to watch it,

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Speaker 3: but it's also going to feel I'm gonna feel a

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Speaker 3: little dirty about it, the same way I felt like

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Speaker 3: when Alex Smith came back from his leg injury. It

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Speaker 3: was all like, oh, yeah, this is awesome, and then

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Speaker 3: on the next play Aaron Donald jumps on his back.

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Speaker 3: I imagine we'll see something similar to that where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: it'll be great, and then it'll play it.

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Speaker 2: Have to play football, yes, and then I'll have to

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Speaker 2: play football. I'm so interested in this because I kind

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Speaker 2: of feel like I've been saying this this week and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's apropos, but i'd like your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on this. You know, when a team fires a

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Speaker 2: and they they're like two great games and it's like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, this guy should be their coach. That

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Speaker 2: is just a disaster. Or a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins goes out, Josh Dobbs comes in, looks like

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Speaker 2: the second coming of Joe Montana for like two to

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Speaker 2: three games and then things go terribly wrong. Do we

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Speaker 2: think Philip Rivers has like I came out of retirement

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Speaker 2: bump going on here?

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Speaker 3: See, I think it's all going to be a countdown

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Speaker 3: until he takes his first hit. Like I think he's

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Speaker 3: going out throwing the ball routes on air. I think

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Speaker 3: he's got the arm talent. Still, it seems to be

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Speaker 3: something that doesn't leave you as long as you continue

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Speaker 3: to like work out consistently. And he's been throwing you know,

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Speaker 3: in the backyard and throwing it like high school football.

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Speaker 3: But I just it all comes down to the first hit.

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Speaker 3: If he's able to get up, we'll see how it looks.

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Speaker 3: But like I could see, like maybe for a quarter,

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Speaker 3: for a half, like first fifteen plays, everything looks good.

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Speaker 3: But then as soon as like the reality of oh,

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Speaker 3: here comes a nickel dime, here comes a nickel blitz boom,

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Speaker 3: and like he gets shot in the back, Like does

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Speaker 3: how does he react when that's seventeen gets hit? Buck?

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Speaker 2: We've got you here. We're talking Philip Rivers. We are

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Speaker 2: on the fence about how this is going to go.

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Speaker 2: I would love your thoughts. I wanted to go, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead and say that. I think

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Speaker 2: it would be super fun if it just goes really

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Speaker 2: really well.

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Speaker 4: Well, hell yeah, you wanted to go. Well, it's an

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Speaker 4: old man out there trying not to die. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's facing yes, that itself just for his own well

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Speaker 4: being at this point, guys, I mean, and thank you

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Speaker 4: for your patience herero as we work out some technical

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Speaker 4: difficulties on our end. No, it's going to be a

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Speaker 4: fascinating case study to see what happens with Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 4: the degree of difficulty of the defense that he is

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Speaker 4: getting dropped in against, also the fact that they have

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Speaker 4: the Houston Texans further down the road, assuming that he survives.

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Speaker 5: This first start.

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Speaker 4: He is not quite as old as Tom Brady was

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Speaker 4: in Tom Brady's final season, but I just can't imagine

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Speaker 4: that he is. He wasn't mobile when he was at

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Speaker 4: the peak of his powers, much less this. If I'm

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor Tracy, I'm assuming that I'm just in for

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Speaker 4: a thirty carry, thirty five touch kind of day, because

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Speaker 4: there behind a Colts offensive line that used to it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Philip Rivers walked in and they're like, Philip, this

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Speaker 2: Get comfortable with that because you will be giving him

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Speaker 2: the ball pretty much every single play. You are a

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Speaker 2: figurehead quarterback. But I don't know, I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: think it to be fun. But yeah, they have the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: it's a very tough defense. Next week they have the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers, who are that defense is up and down.

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Speaker 2: They're getting the job done, but we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: But then the Texans. I mean, this is not an

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Speaker 2: they're not going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: No, the division ended up being a lot more competitive

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Speaker 4: than I think any of us realize. The AFC South

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Speaker 4: we've seen a bit of a resurgence in Jacksonville. I

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Speaker 4: don't know how much people are currently trusting Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much I trust the Texans offense

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Speaker 4: I certainly trust their defense. It's the best in the league.

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Speaker 4: The Titans are god forsaken. I'm out here in San

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Speaker 4: Francisco covering that game tomorrow, Tracy against the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 4: and I'm looking forward to meeting you in person because

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Speaker 4: i know that's the team that you cover on a

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Speaker 4: regular basis. Not sure what I'm gonna make of that situation.

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Speaker 4: Titans are coming off a win against Cleveland, but in

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Speaker 4: the AFC South it's pretty convoluted. I would say that

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Speaker 4: top to bottom, Indianapolis had the best team coming in

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Speaker 4: there with Daniel Jones at quarterback. I just don't know

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Speaker 4: how much the math changes with Philip Rivers now.

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Speaker 5: The thing that stands.

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Speaker 4: Out I don't know if you saw the JJ Watt

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Speaker 4: Rivers and Shane Stike and the Colts head coach have

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Speaker 4: been having weekly conversations because apparently Rivers, as a high

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Speaker 4: school football coach, has been running the Colts offense, so

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Speaker 4: apparently they're not going to miss much of a step.

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Speaker 4: In terms of his ability to recognize, diagnose, use the keys,

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Speaker 4: how much you cognitively can still adapt and react and

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Speaker 4: I don't know, what does he look like throwing a football?

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Speaker 2: And I think thinking that when you brought up Tom Brady,

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking, I mean, yes, Brady was older,

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Speaker 2: but Brady was You're in and you're out preparing to

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Speaker 2: play football the next season, so just from being in shape,

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Speaker 2: it was better. I mean, I think one of the

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Speaker 2: first questions someone asked Philip Rivers was what his weight

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Speaker 2: I think it goes to what kind of shape is

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Speaker 2: he in? In every way? And you're right, what does

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Speaker 2: he look like throwing the football? It makes tomorrow's game

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Speaker 2: extremely interesting. It was already an important game for everybody,

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Speaker 2: but it sure makes it extremely interesting, and I for one,

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Speaker 2: very excited to get an eye on how it's going.

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Speaker 4: Tracy Sandler filling in this week for Jason fitz. FITZI

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Speaker 4: just absolutely copping out of his work responsibilities. I got

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Speaker 5: So as far as the AFC goes.

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Speaker 4: Tracy and We'll be able to have a conversation throughout

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Speaker 4: the course of today's show. We're going to get into

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Speaker 4: the Heisman Trophy stuff as well. That of course takes

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Speaker 4: place tonight. I have two I'm conflicted, and I'll explain

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Speaker 4: But as far as teams that you trust in the AFC,

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Speaker 4: which is the team that you trust the most right

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Speaker 4: now because that conference feels as wide open as it

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Speaker 4: has in the past at any point in the past

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Speaker 4: ten years.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's just in every week. It just I

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Speaker 2: them before. I would say I do still trust the Bills.

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Speaker 2: I do. I think, you know, Josh Allen is a

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Speaker 2: I would put them in it as the AFC team.

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Speaker 2: So that might be the Broncos. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: the game changer. So that's so I'm going to put

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Speaker 2: in there. Now. There are other good teams AFC. I'm

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Speaker 2: not I do think that the Chiefs are probably done,

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Speaker 2: England will be an interesting one. I think they've obviously

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Speaker 2: had a tremendous season. Drake may is spectacular. But will

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Speaker 2: Broncos defense, I think that's what it is. That Broncos defense.

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Speaker 5: Just speaks to me, Well, it's cheat code, right.

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Speaker 4: If you've got a defense that's just going to give

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Speaker 4: and bunches, it's just it's such a benefit for especially

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Speaker 4: a player that's I don't know, is it unfair of

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Speaker 4: my tracy if a call bon Nicks.

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Speaker 2: Or rat No, I don't think that's unfair. I mean, honest,

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Speaker 5: He knows how this goes.

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Speaker 6: I'd keep it going.

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Speaker 2: Well that's but then you could go back and be like, well,

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Speaker 6: Nah, it's just not how my fandom goes.

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Speaker 6: At that's a nicer way of putting it than book.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because I'm just here to make you. Make

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Speaker 4: It's Bucking fits with Tracy Sandler filling in. I sent

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't have it. I am Tracy.

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Speaker 4: It's not that I'm anti Christmas music, Okay, It's just

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Speaker 2: Well, Carmon made a good point last week that I'm

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Speaker 5: You got an a cappella, let's go.

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Speaker 2: I think that's all. I think those are all the

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Speaker 4: It's funny that he knows that I am doing that

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Speaker 4: It's a very, very bizarre situation for me to see

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Speaker 4: in time and take that and further taking themselves out

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Speaker 4: of the postseason because their athletic director is a petulant child.

436
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Speaker 4: I say that as somebody who likes Notre Dame and

437
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 4: wants to see Notre Dame succeed. But with Pavia seventy

438
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Speaker 4: one point two percent of his passes three and ninety

439
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Speaker 4: two yards, twenty seven touchdowns, eight picks, he's clearly and

440
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Speaker 4: obviously more of a dual threat than Mendoza is. And

441
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Speaker 4: I would disagree with you, Tracy. I think that Pavia

442
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Speaker 4: is the best player in college football because to me,

443
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Speaker 4: the Indiana thing Kurt Signetti the head coach. He's back

444
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Speaker 4: to back head Coach of the Year in college football.

445
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Speaker 4: It's never happened before in the history of the award.

446
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Speaker 4: Signetti is Indiana's Pavia. You don't have what Indiana football

447
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 4: has become without Kurt Signetti because he just did this

448
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 4: last year. Basically did this last year with Curtis Rourke,

449
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 4: who would go on to be a draft pick a

450
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Speaker 4: transfer in from Ohio. And in Mendoza's case, I think

451
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Speaker 4: that maybe Mendoza puts them over the top as the

452
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Speaker 4: number one team in the country. He's being talked about

453
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Speaker 4: as the number one overall draft pick in the upcoming

454
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Speaker 4: NFL Draft. We'll see how that manifests. But in Pavia's case,

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Speaker 4: I don't think that you have any kind of success

456
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Speaker 4: in Vanderbilt or for Vanderbilt football without Diego Pavia. He

457
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Speaker 4: to me, is so much more important to what that

458
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Speaker 4: team has been able to accomplish versus Mendoza, who's obviously

459
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Speaker 4: done a great job. But I think feels a bit

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Speaker 4: more interchangeable here based on the track record of the

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Speaker 4: coach that's put them in a position of prominence.

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Speaker 2: You've made a really good argument, and you have convinced me.

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Speaker 2: You have convinced me.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I still think if whoever of the two of them wins,

466
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Speaker 2: is the right choice, if that makes sense, like I

467
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Speaker 2: think that is fair, But you have convinced me now

468
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Speaker 2: that it should be Diego Pavia also a friend of mine,

469
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Speaker 2: like a family friend's son is on the Vanderbilt team.

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Speaker 2: He's wide receiver, so I probably should just go that

471
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Speaker 2: direction anyway. But you you've made an excellent case, and

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Speaker 2: you've convinced me, your honor, this.

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Speaker 4: Is this is far too reason you normally fits mes

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Speaker 4: fights me, tooth and nail and everything.

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Speaker 2: You make a good kise me. They're both really good candidates.

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Speaker 2: They really are. And I think I think your point

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Speaker 2: about Kurt Signetti is correct. I still think Mendoza is

478
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Speaker 2: a lot of why they were successful. But you're right

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Speaker 2: without Pavia Vando. I mean, when when is the last

480
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Speaker 2: time we were talking about Vanderbilt football in this way?

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Speaker 2: And so I think without Pavia you make a very

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Speaker 2: good point.

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Speaker 1: See.

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Speaker 2: I can be argumentative, but I also when I'm wrong,

485
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Speaker 2: I say I'm wrong.

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Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't say that you were wrong.

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Speaker 4: I would just say that there's additional context that was working,

488
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Speaker 4: okay in this particular situation. Speaking of context, let's get

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Speaker 4: caught up on all things in the world of sports, Martin,

490
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Speaker 4: what have you got for us?

491
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Speaker 3: The Army Navy game's over now may be improving to

492
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Speaker 3: ten and two, eight and one in the American Conference,

493
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Speaker 3: that seventeen to sixteen win over Army, maybe getting that

494
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Speaker 3: last touchdown with about five minutes left in the game.

495
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Speaker 3: Army Foster six and six, four and five in conference.

496
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Speaker 3: Now in the NFL, Philip Rivers has signed to the

497
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Speaker 3: Colts fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 5: The forty four year old.

499
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Speaker 3: Expected to start tomorrow against the Seahawks.

500
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Speaker 5: He was eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

501
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Speaker 3: That clock now restarts as long as he was signed

502
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Speaker 3: to the active roster, which he obviously was so now

503
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Speaker 3: he will not be eligible again until twenty thirty. The

504
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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers that plays Brandon at Uk on the

505
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Speaker 3: reserve slash left squad list that'll end his season. Forty

506
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Speaker 3: nine Ers likely will move on from the wide receiver

507
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Speaker 3: after this. Now listen Christian McCaffrey as questionable with a

508
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Speaker 3: back injury. The Cowboys do not activate Trayvon Diggs. He

509
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: was expected to try to get out there against the

510
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: Vikings this weekend. He was a limited participant in practice

511
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Speaker 3: all week. Green Bay Packers added Emmanuel Wilson to the

512
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Speaker 3: injury report. He's got an illness. Josh Jacobs questionable with

513
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Speaker 3: a knee injury. Lions downgraded Thomas Harper out with a

514
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: concussion against the Rams, and guard Christian Mahogany also out

515
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Speaker 3: with a leg injury. Mike McDaniel said that he expects

516
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Speaker 3: running back de von A Chan to play for the

517
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Speaker 3: Dolphins against the Steelers on Monday Night. Football bears optimistic

518
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: that roam A Doonda will play on Sunday. He's been

519
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Speaker 3: dealing with a foot injury. And this is not really

520
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Speaker 3: a story, but I just want to Ian's producing the

521
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Speaker 3: show and Thretter, cent and Form. The Jets are on

522
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Speaker 3: pace to force the fewest turnovers in a season in

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Speaker 3: NFL history. I just think we should highlight things of

524
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Speaker 3: like highs and lows. You know, two turnovers on the year.

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Speaker 2: That was so kind. See this is what happens when

526
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Speaker 2: I'm on the show. People turned kind. That was fine.

527
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Speaker 4: It's bucking fits on a Fox Sports Saturday. That's Tracy said.

528
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Speaker 4: Lucy's filling in for Fitzie, who is unwell today. Apparently

529
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 4: he could not even make a noise today, only to

530
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Speaker 4: be able to text us and say that he was

531
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Speaker 4: not going to be able to do the show. So

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Speaker 4: we appreciate Tracy filling in on a short notice. To

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Speaker 4: Martin's point, Ian, I was looking this up the other

534
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Speaker 4: day because I was just looking at some numbers between

535
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Speaker 4: the Niners and the Titans.

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Speaker 5: I'm out here in San.

537
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Speaker 4: Francisco covering the Titans side of things, Tracy covers the

538
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Speaker 4: forty nine Ers, so we'll both be at the game

539
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 4: tomorrow at Levi Stadium and Santa Clara together. I was

540
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 4: stunned because the Niners, at Tracy, if I'm not mistaken,

541
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Speaker 4: have the se are tied for the second fewest interceptions

542
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Speaker 4: in football this season with five And then I saw

543
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Speaker 4: the Jets with a fattle goose egg next to their

544
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Speaker 4: interception total.

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Speaker 5: Not a single not op.

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Speaker 4: This year for Ian Roddy's Jets. I just, again, not

547
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Speaker 4: that we're about piling go on around here. I just

548
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: couldn't believe with my own eyes that we were through

549
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 4: fourteen weeks of football and they don't have a single interception.

550
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what's funny, though, is the forty nine

551
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Speaker 2: Ers were like on pace for that because they had

552
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Speaker 2: going back to last season, I think went twelve games,

553
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 2: which was almost a record without an interception. So, I mean,

554
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Speaker 2: if that makes you feel better, the forty nine Ers

555
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Speaker 2: are in playoff contention and they're not like that far

556
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Speaker 2: back from all Jets on that.

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Speaker 6: It tells me if Robert Sala had got another year,

558
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Speaker 6: they might not be in a different situation in terms

559
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Speaker 6: of the turnover department.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. I think we can all agree that Robert

561
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Speaker 2: Sola was not the big problem.

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, definitely, But I mean at this point, though,

563
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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm almost rooting for them not to get

564
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Speaker 6: an interception, because it'd be cooler if they just want

565
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Speaker 6: the entire year without a single one's dubious honor.

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Speaker 2: It's cool to get a dubious honor. At least it's something.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's something you can.

568
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Speaker 2: Hang your hat on that and be like, well, you

569
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Speaker 2: may your team have won the Super Bowl, but my

570
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: team set her record and didn't have a single interception.

571
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Speaker 6: As a teer runs down face.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but not just a tier like a no Sean

573
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: moreno tier like a super tier falls from your poor

574
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 4: Jets fans, eyes listen. This is where Ian and I

575
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 4: have to exist, Tracy. I'm not a fan of the Titans.

576
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Speaker 5: Got help me. You couldn't pay me to be a

577
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 5: fan of that team.

578
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 4: But I cover them and they have been god forsaken

579
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Speaker 4: at this point for I mean, this is the fourth

580
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: consecutive season that they've had double digit losses, and I

581
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 4: still don't think it equals the depths of Jets fandom

582
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: sadness because Jets fans. Maybe I'm wrong about this, Ian

583
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: and you'll correct me if I am, But I feel

584
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 4: like Jets fans they will try and convince.

585
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Speaker 5: You that they're going to win nine or eight games every.

586
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Speaker 4: Year, regardless of the situation, regardless of the coaching change,

587
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 4: the quarterback, what have you. I feel like Jets fans

588
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: ironically are almost more optimistic than they have any business

589
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 4: being because of the state of their franchise perpetually.

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Speaker 6: I mean, maybe I'm in just different circles, but I

591
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 6: feel like I'm the Jets fans I talk to are

592
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 6: relatively realistic, at least going into a year like this year.

593
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Speaker 6: With Aaron Glenn's first first year, I think the expectations

594
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Speaker 6: were not overly high. But when it comes yeah, when

595
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Speaker 6: when Aaron Rodgers was on the team, it was totally

596
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Speaker 6: you know, we're winning the Super Bowl all that stuff,

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Speaker 6: And can't say that was ever obviously hindsight's twenty twenty,

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Speaker 6: but I guess that was never even in the cards

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Speaker 6: at this point.

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Speaker 2: But I think you have to be like I think

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Speaker 2: if you're going to be a fan of the Jets

602
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: or anybody or like the Browns, you gotta go into

603
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: the season being like, you know what, we can win

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00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: eight or nine games because you're a fan Hope Springs eternal,

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Speaker 2: and you want to at least pretend like there's a

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Speaker 2: chance you'll enjoy the season, at least until week two

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Speaker 2: when it's clear you will not, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's why you bring in Aaron Rodgers was

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Speaker 6: to win the Super Bowl. So if that's not in

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Speaker 6: the cards in your mind, then you know what are

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Speaker 6: you doing?

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Speaker 5: Correct?

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Speaker 4: pretty damn good. At this point in time, the Denver

622
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: Broncos and the New England Patriots are on ten game

623
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Speaker 4: win streaks apiece. It is insane to me because I

624
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: covered Mike Vrabel for all six years that he was

625
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Speaker 4: in Nashville, obviously in his first stint as a Titans

626
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: head coach. I looked at that roster this year, guys,

627
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Speaker 4: and I said, arguably, that's a worse roster than the

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Speaker 4: one that I'm covering here in Tennessee. Or you could

629
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 4: have a conversation about what they have in New Orleans

630
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Speaker 4: and understanding that Drake May was a top draft pick

631
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Speaker 4: and that the possibility of ascension is always on the table,

632
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: and the Josh McDaniels factor here, a very experienced offensive

633
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: coordinator who you don't have to sweat out the idea

634
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: that he might leave you for a head coaching job

635
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Speaker 4: because he'd been a flamed out head coach twice in

636
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: his career at this point in two. The more improbable

637
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: story this year in the NFL between these two teams,

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Speaker 4: New England or Denver, to you, Tracy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the more improbable I think New England. I think

640
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Speaker 2: because I think with Denver, you saw signs last year

641
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: they got into the playoffs and you and then they

642
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: made some really big off season acquisitions. We talked about

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00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: the defense, so I think it's not as shocking. I

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00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: think the Patriots are pretty surprising that in year one

645
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: they're doing this, and what a difference of coach makes.

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Speaker 2: But I would say they were the bigger surprise.

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Speaker 5: Which is just it. It's so it's so tough. Do

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Speaker 5: you do you know Mike Grease, Tracy, I've.

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Speaker 2: Met Mike Grease. I don't know him well, but I

650
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: definitely have met Mike Greece at the combine, I believe, yes, Mike.

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Speaker 4: Grease for those and I think I've told the story

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Speaker 4: on our show before, but not to you, Tracy.

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Speaker 5: Mike Grease.

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Speaker 4: The Titans hosted the Patriots earlier the season, Mike rabel

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Speaker 4: revenge game. Pats went in there and kicked their ass,

656
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Speaker 4: understandably so. But before the game, Mike is in the

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Speaker 4: press box and just catching up, and we've been a

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Speaker 4: while since we've seen each other, probably combine similarly, and

659
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Speaker 4: he was just kind of he was almost like comforting

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Speaker 4: me about the idea. Yeah, I know, it's tough and

661
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Speaker 4: and these these seasons happen. He goes, I understand. We

662
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Speaker 4: just went through a couple ourselves. And I'm just sitting

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Speaker 4: there and Mike is a very lovely man and a

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Speaker 4: very well meaning man. But I just it took every

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Speaker 4: ounce of restraint I have not to laugh in his

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Speaker 4: face and be like, Mike, a couple of tough seasons,

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Speaker 4: what are you talking about?

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Speaker 8: You?

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Speaker 4: You were, you ran the you you ran the sport

670
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Speaker 4: for two decades. What do you mean a couple of

671
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Speaker 4: tough seasons? Get out of here. With that, Nobody nobody

672
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Speaker 4: feels like they Nobody feels more entitled, unjustifiably so the

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Speaker 4: New England Patriots fans, god forbid, they have a couple

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Speaker 4: of tough seasons, while the rest of us just, you know,

675
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Speaker 4: desperately try and climb into relevancy or hope that our

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Speaker 4: football teams climb back into relevancy.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's funny that you say that, because I

678
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Speaker 2: feel that a lot sometimes with the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: I think I feel like every forty nine Ers quarterback

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Speaker 2: who was not named Joe Montana or Steve Young is

681
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Speaker 2: never going to be good enough for fans for some

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Speaker 2: reason or another. And I kind of it's a similar

683
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Speaker 2: thing that Patriots fans two decades, but Patriots fans in

684
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Speaker 2: their twenties have really never saw them lose. And then

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Speaker 2: there does become this kind of entitlement. Is that getting

686
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Speaker 2: upset about having a couple of tough seasons or not

687
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Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl. I think it's it's interesting that

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Speaker 2: that happens. And I do find that with forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers fans too, And because they won all those super

690
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Speaker 2: Bowls in the eighties, when they've now lost super Bowls,

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Speaker 2: there's this day like the fans or I said, well, we

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Speaker 2: don't four and hours don't lose super Bowls. Well guess

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Speaker 2: yes they do. Actually they've now lost three of them,

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Speaker 2: the last three that they've been in. But it's interesting

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Speaker 2: how fans can become entitled in that way.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of entitlement, that allegation has been made of Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow by some NFL fans who were not amused by

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Speaker 4: his commentary at a podium earlier. This week, we will

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Speaker 4: talk about Joe Burrow's cryptic comments and whether anything should

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Speaker 4: actually be made of them. Coming up next on This

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports really?

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Speaker 4: Welcome back on this Fox Sports Saturday, It's Bucking Fits

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Speaker 4: with Tracy Sandler filling in for Jason Fitz on Buck Rising.

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Speaker 4: It's not snowing out here. In San Francisco. Nothing better

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Speaker 4: than California in December. I like being on y'all's time.

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Speaker 4: I like being in y'all's weather. It's very nice at

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Speaker 4: this time here. It's a nice break. It's not like

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Speaker 4: it's miserable in Nashville in December, but it's certainly a

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Speaker 4: lovely change of pace for me.

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Speaker 5: But it will take a walk by the water before

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Speaker 5: the show started today, Tracy, and.

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Speaker 4: Just kind of, you know, not have to worry about

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Speaker 4: gloves or a scar for extra layers or all these

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Speaker 4: different things.

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Speaker 5: Not that people are here for a weather forecast, but

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Speaker 5: you get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, I do get it. Is it's definitely nice.

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Speaker 2: I mean for us. I'm in La right now, and

720
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Speaker 2: it's cold for us because it was like sixty degrees.

721
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Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, where do we live. But

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Speaker 2: it's really quite lovely this time of year. Now everybody

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Speaker 2: it's La even more than they did a minute ago.

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Speaker 4: So we teased entitlement. There's weather entitlement, there's football entitlement.

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Speaker 4: There's Joe Burrow. And I don't know what your position is, Tracy,

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Speaker 4: but we'll talk about this after we hear from Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: This commentary from him at the podium on his twenty

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Speaker 4: ninth birthday, ironically enough, caught people's attention because for those

729
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Speaker 4: of us who have been covering the league long enough

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Speaker 4: or have just been football fans long enough, not that

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Speaker 4: this was an eternity ago, but we're all old enough

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Speaker 4: here to remember the Andrew Luck situation in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 4: and what caused his retirement. And when you hear a

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Speaker 4: quarterback talking about a loss of love of fun of

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Speaker 4: the game, it starts to kind of raise some five

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Speaker 4: alarm fire type situations. Let's hear from Joe Burrow at

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Speaker 4: the podium in Cincinnati earlier this week, if we.

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Speaker 1: Could, I want to keep doing this, I have to

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Speaker 1: have fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,

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Speaker 1: and if it's not.

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Speaker 5: Fun, then what am I doing it for? You see,

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Speaker 5: like through something on your mind.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things going on right now.

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Speaker 5: A lot of things going on right now, well related

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Speaker 5: personally all the book, So a lot of things going on.

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Speaker 4: And young Joe Burrow's like I say that young Joe

747
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Speaker 4: Burrow's three years younger than me.

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Speaker 5: But I am I am concerned about it.

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Speaker 4: If I'm a Bengals fan if I'm a football fan,

750
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Speaker 4: because you don't want to lose another star quarterback just

751
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Speaker 4: because he's getting the crap beat out of him on

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Speaker 4: a weekend, week out. Basis, his body has been going

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Speaker 4: through it these last few years, and it's been.

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Speaker 5: A long time. In twenty twenty one feels like eons.

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Speaker 4: Ago when they made that Super Bowl run. I know,

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Speaker 4: because they beat the Titans in the divisional round as

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Speaker 4: the number one overall seed and basically dropped a football

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Speaker 4: nuke on the city of Nashville. For as bad as

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Speaker 4: that game played out. What do you make of Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow's commentary and are you concerned?

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Speaker 2: I would say it probably is concerning. I think I

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Speaker 2: do think birthdays sometimes bring reflection, even for football players,

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Speaker 2: and he has had a lot going on and it

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Speaker 2: has not been fun for him. I mean, he's also

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Speaker 2: playing for a team that is not prioritizing an offensive line,

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Speaker 2: it's not prioritizing necessarily safety. They're known as a somewhat

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Speaker 2: cheaper team, and so I think it has not been fun.

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Speaker 2: And he keeps getting hurt, he keeps getting hurt badly

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Speaker 2: and missing time. That is not fun for a football player.

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Speaker 2: So I would say, I don't know if you have

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Speaker 2: an Andrew Luck situation on your hands, but you, as

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Speaker 2: a Bengals fan, you maybe have to start preparing for

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Speaker 2: your quarterback to be traded because I also get what

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Speaker 2: he's saying. If he's gonna have to stay in Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: the next couple of years, it's not fun for him,

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Speaker 2: and they keep losing and it's a waste. Like last

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Speaker 2: year is such a good example. They started out so

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Speaker 2: badly and then they came back because of him and

779
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Speaker 2: came so close to making the playoffs. And it's almost

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Speaker 2: malpractice to have Joe Burrow and not put everything around

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Speaker 2: him to make sure you're successful. I covered a Browns

782
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: game a couple weeks ago. Their defense is so good

783
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: it is malpractice how bad their offense and special teams is.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the situation here with Joe Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: So I think as a Bengals fan, you should be

786
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Speaker 2: concerned that one way or the other, you're probably going

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Speaker 2: to lose your quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's an organizational issue, and this is this is

789
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Speaker 4: what was Kevin O'Connell spoke about this last year about

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Speaker 4: how often organizations fail players as opposed to players failing

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Speaker 4: football franchises and what's done or not done around them

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Speaker 4: to properly support them. If you look at the numbers

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Speaker 4: in terms of how many games the two of them

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Speaker 4: have missed, Andrew Luck and Joe Burrow, it's pretty similar,

795
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Speaker 4: and the injuries maybe not the same. Burrows had an achilles,

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Speaker 4: He's had a wrist injury. He's obviously coming back from

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00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: his what was it a high ankle spring if I

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Speaker 4: remember correctly, I believe it was an ankle injury. Maybe

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Speaker 4: not a high ankle sprain. I shouldn't speak out of turn,

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Speaker 4: but dealing with injuries so far this year again, Joe,

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow this year, Joe Burrow this year, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 5: What I'm sorry, Joe Burrow this year.

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Speaker 2: This year was a toe turf toe.

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Speaker 4: OK, so he had he had a turf toe situation,

805
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Speaker 4: which is deep unpleasant and ironically enough, it's a year

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00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: where the Bengals start by winning their first two games,

807
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: which has been Zach Taylor's whole bugaboo. It's the whole

808
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 4: reason Bengals fans are over him. But I mean, if

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Speaker 4: you're talking about precedent, the Bengals already have a precedent

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Speaker 4: for this.

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Speaker 5: Carson Palmer forced his way out of there.

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Speaker 4: Because he was unsatisfied with the way that the Bengals

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Speaker 4: were handling the situation around him. Burrow is a much

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Speaker 4: higher ceiling type of player. They have been to a

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl. They didn't win against Matt Stafford and the Rams,

816
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Speaker 4: but they have been to a super Bowl, and just

817
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Speaker 4: in the years since then, it's been very disappointing to

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Speaker 4: see him not properly be supported. I say, this is

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Speaker 4: somebody who covers cam Ward. Cam Ward had some comments

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Speaker 4: about just what a toll the season has been taking

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Speaker 4: on him.

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Speaker 5: He's the most sack quarterback in football. And that guy

823
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Speaker 5: just got here.

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Speaker 2: He so could you imagine for Joe Burrow. So cam

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Speaker 2: Ward just gets here, gets there and is going through

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Speaker 2: this and understanding what that's like. And you have Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 2: who you mentioned twenty twenty one, that's now four seasons ago.

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Speaker 2: It does seem like go and it's just it is

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Speaker 2: an organizational issue. And I go back to I said

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Speaker 2: it is. It's malpractice. It is it's football malpractice to

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Speaker 2: be in that position. So I understand why he's upset.

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Speaker 2: I understand his feelings. I think when you're going through it,

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Speaker 2: you can also be somewhat emotional very different situations. But

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Speaker 2: Brandon i Yuk after the forty nine Ers lost the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, there were questions of if you really wanted

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Speaker 2: an extension, and you know, he said things that were

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Speaker 2: concerning that seemed maybe like he was an emotional at

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Speaker 2: the time, but as it turns out, it wasn't just

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Speaker 2: that he was emotional at the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's always a little bit of additional context

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Speaker 4: that's required to understanding the full scope of these situations.

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Speaker 5: And maybe Joe Burrow just had a bad day.

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Speaker 4: But speaking of bad organizations and teams that do tend

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Speaker 4: to stay bad, there's teams hiring in the NFL, we'll

845
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Speaker 4: talk about them coming up next.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports really good, right.

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Speaker 4: The NFL season is rolling along, But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: that the hot board hadn't been going for quite some time.

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Speaker 4: As far as the coaching searches go. Now, we only

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Speaker 4: have two currently open jobs in the NFL, but that's

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Speaker 4: enough to get the rumor mill going, or rather I

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Speaker 4: should say the reporting mill. Welcome back on this Fox

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Speaker 4: Sports Saturday. It's bucking fits. We got Tracy Saylor filling

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Speaker 4: in for Fitzie. He's out six. I make sure you

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Speaker 4: tweet him at Jason fitz and tell him what a

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Speaker 4: slacker he is, maybe wish him well.

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Speaker 5: In the meantime, we'll.

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Speaker 4: Just publicly shame him Tracy into showing up to work.

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Speaker 4: It's really the only tool that I have that's effective

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Speaker 4: at this point in time. I guess as far as

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Speaker 4: the two openings that have already been made, the Tennessee Titans,

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Speaker 4: which I cover on a day to day basis, the

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Speaker 4: New York Giants fired Brian Dable a few weeks after

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Speaker 4: Brian Callahan got the proverbial acts. Were you one, what

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Speaker 4: did you make of the firings in season? Did you

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Speaker 4: think that that was the appropriate approach? And what do

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Speaker 4: you make of those two jobs as openings before we

868
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Speaker 4: have the rest of the NFL that may also make

869
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: consideration to coaching changes.

870
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: Though I thought the fire firings were justified. I mean,

871
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 2: the Giants have just been a mess for so long,

872
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: and I think there comes a certain point where you

873
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 2: just almost they have to make a statement in theory

874
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: that we are going to make change. We are ready

875
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: to make change, and we're just going to do it now.

876
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: Perhaps similarly with the Titans. You know, I look at

877
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: the two jobs. The thing if I'm looking at the

878
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: Titans job, which would be disconcerning to me. And I

879
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: realize in saying this, there are thirty two of these.

880
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: So you want to be an NFL head coach, there

881
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: are thirty two jobs, only so many become available a year,

882
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: So that goes into your decision making process. But the

883
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: Titans seem to be on a run of firing and

884
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: hiring and firing and hiring, and I think that is

885
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: how bad teams stay bad. And we've now seen that

886
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: in those last several years. I mean we talk about

887
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: you talked about earlier the twenty twenty one Division game

888
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: and Vrabel was the coach. Well we're four seasons removed,

889
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: and how many coaches have the Titans had, you know,

890
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: at gms are getting fired so and I thought firing

891
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: Ran Carthon was done too early. So I just think

892
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: that job, if it were me and I got to choose,

893
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: I would find that job less attractive than the Giants job.

894
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: The Giants may have the other problem where they stayed

895
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: too long with someone, but you know, I think that

896
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: job becomes more attractive because the hiring frid That there's

897
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: the Titans are never going to get better if this

898
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 2: is how they're going to do things.

899
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

900
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: And Amy Adams Strunker's the controlling owner in Tennessee. She

901
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: has been on a run here lately. We are now

902
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 4: four straight seasons with a Titans head of state being fired.

903
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: What we went Robinson, John Robinson GM, Mike Rabel head

904
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 4: co or excuse me, John Robinson GM. Then they fired

905
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: Mike Rabel, Then they fired Rand Carthon, then they fired

906
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 4: Brian Callahan and the Giants before.

907
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 5: Brian dave All, they were kind of in a maybe.

908
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 4: Not quite as frequently Yeah, no, judge Pat Shermer like

909
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: they had been McAdoo. They had a string of unsuccessful

910
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: coch is that didn't quite get as much run as

911
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 4: Brian Daball did, but they also didn't do as much

912
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: as Brian da Ball did, even if it did not

913
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: work out at the end of the day. And it's

914
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: also about the diplomacy reportedly that Brian da Ball did

915
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: or did not have with members.

916
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 5: Of his staff. He had a bit of an argument

917
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: that was.

918
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: Maybe not strong enough to call it just an argument

919
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: with Wink Martindale, the former defensive coordinator than Mi Kafka

920
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: also as the interim head coach and offensive coordinator. So

921
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: there are some additional things there to be noted. But

922
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: our friend Diana Russini was doing her weekly newsletter on

923
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: the Athletic, which you can go out and see on

924
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: a weekly basis on Saturdays. It's always full of good

925
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: news and notes to be consumed.

926
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 5: There.

927
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: She brings up Marcus Freeman, the Notre Dame coach, as

928
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: somebody that the New York Giants have on their list

929
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: of candidates for their head coaching vacancy. She also includes

930
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: again the Athletic dot com is where you can read

931
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: this quote. I'm told names on the list for the

932
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: Giants include Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley, Colt's

933
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator, Louis an Rumo, Washington Commander, Washington Commander's offensive coordinator.

934
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: That's a mouthful, Cliff Kingsbury, Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak,

935
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: and Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman. Marcus Freeman is thirty

936
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: nine years old. He is certainly good at what he does.

937
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 4: That's an interim situation that worked out very well in

938
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 4: the case of Notre Dame after Brian Kelly up and

939
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 4: left for Louisiana LSU and his family, or however his

940
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 4: fake Southern accent went that did not play out well.

941
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 4: He's obviously since been fired. What do you make of

942
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: Marcus Freeman as an NFL maybe not as a coach,

943
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 4: but as an NFL candidate in this upcoming cycle.

944
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: I completely understand it. I mean, you see what he's

945
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: done with Notre Dame and the season they had last year,

946
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: this season they had this year, even though they're not

947
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: very happy about being left out of the playoff, but

948
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: you've seen what he's been able to do with that team,

949
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: and I think he seems like a coach that the

950
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: players really respect, that his staff really respects. So I

951
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: can totally understand why he would be a name in

952
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: this cycle. Some of those other names, to me, might

953
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: make more sense just from an experience in the NFL

954
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: factor in that you know, may not doesn't always translate,

955
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: and nor does college. You know, college doesn't always translate too.

956
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: I think there's a handful of coaches that we can

957
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: say have gone from college to the NFL and really

958
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: been successful. But you know, I think I get it.

959
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: I mean, and everything about him kind of would be

960
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: probably what the Giants want. I think he's somebody who

961
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: potentially looks like he would bring stability to the organization.

962
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: He would know how to work with players, he would

963
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: potentially draft well, all of these things. So I get it.

964
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: I just I just don't know if it might be

965
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: too soon. And I understand. I also wonder from his perspective,

966
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: does he want to stay and win a national championship

967
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame and get a little more experienced there.

968
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: But I totally understand he's an excellent coach.

969
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: You know.

970
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: The thing that makes it interesting here is the way

971
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 4: that Notre Dame has handled missing the postseason, missing the playoffs,

972
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: and then removing themselves from bowl consideration. They just said, no,

973
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 4: we'll literally take our ball and we'll go home, and

974
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: we don't want to do this anymore. If you guys

975
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: aren't going to put us in the real thing, then

976
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: we don't want to be a part of it. And

977
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 4: I Miami always should have been in the College Football

978
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 4: Playoff over Notre Dame. The entire controversy, the entire reason

979
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 4: why any Notre Dame fan would feel like the rug

980
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 4: got pulled out from under them is because the process

981
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 4: was terrible and the College Football Playoff Committee is it my.

982
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 5: Words, not yours, Tracy.

983
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 4: I don't want to speak for both of us here,

984
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: but I believe it to be just a total sham

985
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 4: that doesn't matter, and the Tuesday television show can just

986
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: be shot into the sun for all I care, because

987
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 4: these athletic directors get up there, make nonsensical arguments that

988
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 4: don't matter, and then we all get pissed off about

989
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: whatever the playoff picture ends up looking at looking like

990
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 4: when they finally put out the field and Notre Dame

991
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: was ahead of Miami the entire time or almost the

992
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 4: entire time, even though losing the had the head earlier

993
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 4: in the season. Then they flip flop things. Everybody's pissed,

994
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: not to relitigate the whole situation or Notre Dame fans

995
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 4: are pissed. But the person who I think has really

996
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: made Notre Dame look the most petulant in all of

997
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 4: this is their athletic director, Pete Bavaqua, who has made

998
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 4: the rounds on national outlets, local outlets, Notre Dame Podcast

999
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 4: wherever We'll put a microphone in front of this man's

1000
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: face talking about how slighted Notre Dame is and how

1001
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: offensive it is that the ACC did not argue on

1002
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: behalf of Notre Dame, instead choosing to argue on behalf

1003
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: of one of its member institutions when Notre Dame's not

1004
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: actually a part of their conference. Ridiculous kind of stuff

1005
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: from my perspective. They did things like and they've since

1006
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: reinstated this book signing. I don't know if you're familiar

1007
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: with Ivan Mazel who's a college football historian who's on

1008
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: the College Football Playoff Committee?

1009
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 5: Was it notre or excuse me at ESPN?

1010
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: For a long time, he had a book signing at

1011
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: a Notre Dame bookstore because he just wrote a book

1012
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: about Frank Lahey, the famous note Notre Dame coach.

1013
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 5: They pulled the book signing.

1014
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: Because Mazelle was on the College Football Playoff Committee and

1015
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 4: they were pissed about it. Now they've since reinstated it

1016
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 4: because they looked publicly petty and they got shamed for it.

1017
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: But if you're Marcus Freeman seeing all of this behavior

1018
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 4: play out around you at Notre Dame, I don't know

1019
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: if Marcus Freeman also was not interested in participating in

1020
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 4: bull season despite not making the College Football Playoff. But

1021
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 4: I would say, not knowing him or his situation intimately,

1022
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: if I was just looking at this from an.

1023
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 5: External perspective, I'd say, well, what do I want to

1024
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 5: be here?

1025
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 4: If this athletic director is going to make us look

1026
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 4: foolish at every turn, why don't I go and try

1027
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 4: my hand at the NFL. Because even if I did

1028
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 4: fail in the NFL, I do think that Marcus Freeman

1029
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 4: would be a viable college football coach candidate.

1030
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 5: Oh.

1031
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely. And it's interesting that you bring that up because

1032
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: it's something I've thought this week. I'm like, we haven't

1033
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: heard word from Marcus Freeman on this. We haven't seen him,

1034
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: unfairly in every single story published about it. The photo

1035
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: on the story is of Marcus Freeman, who has not

1036
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: said a single word. And so you do make a

1037
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: good point. I mean, in some ways, the AD's behavior

1038
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: is like looking at the Titans job and saying that

1039
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: that behavior is erratic, and do I want to be

1040
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: a part of that? So I think that that's a

1041
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: really very good point. I'm so curious, and I don't

1042
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: know that we ever will, but I'm so curious to

1043
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: hear what Marcus Rieman thinks of all of this. But

1044
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: you do make a very good point, and you're right,

1045
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: if he does not do well, he's definitely going to

1046
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: be a viable candidate. I mean, it's he will not

1047
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: be the first one to go and not do well,

1048
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: he won't be the last. But you know, I think

1049
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: it's an interesting opportunity, and so I think it just

1050
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: comes down to also, we don't know how he feels

1051
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: about all about all this, and if he doesn't feel

1052
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: good about it and he would like to go somewhere else,

1053
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: this gives him a really good opportunity. Or if he

1054
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 2: wants to say and perhaps win a national championship, I

1055
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 2: just don't know how important that is him. Perhaps he stays.

1056
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: But you know, I think you make a really good

1057
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: point about the AD, who I honestly didn't have as

1058
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: big a problem with it until the AD just started

1059
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: going out there and saying all these things that were

1060
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: so ridiculous and just look just so petty.

1061
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 5: Oh I hate it.

1062
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 4: I hate it as somebody who roots for Notre Dame

1063
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: personally in my fandom, it makes everybody associated with it

1064
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 4: affirms whatever stigma you might have about Notre Dame in

1065
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: your head if you're a fan of an opposing team

1066
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 4: or really any other team in the country, because you're like, yeah,

1067
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 4: Notre Dame spoiled it entitled there's an athletic director behaving in.

1068
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 5: A spoiled it in title fashion.

1069
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 4: Also to kind of revisit this list that Diana has,

1070
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: so Halfley, Ana Roumo, Kingsbury, Kubiak, Marcus Freeman. Now maybe

1071
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: that's not all of the names on the Giants list,

1072
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 4: but there is a common theme there with all but

1073
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: one candidate, Tracy.

1074
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 5: What do all those people have in common?

1075
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: They are defensive coordinators, well except for Cliff.

1076
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 5: Except for Cliff. But also none of them have ever

1077
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 5: been NFL head coach.

1078
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: So you're right, none of them except for Cliff. Oh,

1079
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: isn't it. There's like some sort of analogy we could

1080
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 2: do about a Cliff, and it's all about a Cliff

1081
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: and going off the list anyway.

1082
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 5: The Cliff Cliff, and we were waiting for the Cliff.

1083
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: Court all defensive coaches and yeah, none of them have

1084
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: been head coaches before, And I go ahead, I'm sorry, No,

1085
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: that's all Please go ahead.

1086
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 5: No, I was just going to say so.

1087
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 4: In Tennessee, the dialogue has been if I'm a Titans fan,

1088
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 4: or frankly, if I'm a Giants fan and managing a

1089
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: situation around a first round draft Picke at quarterback that

1090
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 4: has promised, but you know, we're not really sure what

1091
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 4: to do with cam Ward and Jackson Dart just yet.

1092
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 4: I don't know that we know what to do with

1093
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 4: Tyler Schucker, shadors Anders or Dylan Gabriel either, but it's

1094
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: it's very important, especially in Tennessee, you spend the number

1095
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: one overall draft pick on a player. Everything that the

1096
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: franchise does, from janitorial staff onto ownership needs to be

1097
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 4: done in service of seeing.

1098
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 5: That number one overall picket quarterback succeed.

1099
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 4: In my estimation, Brian Callahan, who was a first time

1100
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: head coach in Tennessee, was not equipped to navigate all

1101
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: the different ins and outs of what that job actually

1102
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: is versus being a play caller. It's way more than

1103
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 4: just an ex's and o's job. I would be concerned

1104
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: if I was a Giants fan that the list does

1105
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: not include any other experienced head coaching candidates beyond Cliff Kingsbury,

1106
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 4: whose time was not viewed very favorably as a head coach.

1107
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that he can't do it better the second

1108
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: time around. But I just find that a bit curious.

1109
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: If I'm a Giants fan, that.

1110
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: Is curious, and I would also as a Giants fan

1111
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: or the Giants, I would be very wary to hire

1112
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury as a And I think also last year

1113
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: if the Commanders was tremendous, this year's been There's been

1114
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: a lot of injuries, a lot of things going on,

1115
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: But I don't know that that would not be my

1116
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: first choice. I actually think in all of those names,

1117
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: Jeff Hafley is really interesting to me if that is

1118
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: the kind of the direction, if they're going to go

1119
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: someone who hasn't been head coach. He has had tremendous

1120
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: experience in this league. He's part of that tree, you know,

1121
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: He's part of that Shanahan tree. He's worked with coaches.

1122
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: I think he's worked with tough coaches. I find very

1123
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: interesting because I also think he's not just a play caller,

1124
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: and I think he would understand the different parts of

1125
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: the job and what that means. So I would find

1126
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: that to be a very interesting candidate if that was

1127
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: a direction they wanted to go in terms of if

1128
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: they don't end up wanting to hire a coach who's

1129
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: had experience before.

1130
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 4: Well, Tracy's experience is covering the San Francisco forty nine ers,

1131
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: and I've been banging the drum for Kyle Shanahan to

1132
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: receive more Coach of the Year love. We're going to

1133
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: talk about why we think he's not getting more interest

1134
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 4: as far as being the NFL Coach of the Year.

1135
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 4: Coming up next stick right there, it's Fox Sports Radio.

1136
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 4: Welcome back on this Fox Sports Saturday. It's buckin Fits

1137
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 4: with Tracy Sandler filling in. We're going to talk about

1138
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 4: the NFL Coach of the Year odds. Tracy covers the

1139
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: forty nine ers. I'm sure you know you're familiar with

1140
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 4: her work here on Fox Sports Radio, but I'm curious

1141
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 4: about her perspective on the Coach of the Year odds

1142
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 4: and why Kyle Shanahan, the coach of the forty nine ers,

1143
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: is not receiving more love. We'll do that here in

1144
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: just a second, but we do have some tweets in

1145
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: response to our last segment. This one from Preller Forever

1146
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 4: If talking about Marcus Freeman and potentially not loving the

1147
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: way that Notre Dame has conducted themselves in the college

1148
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: football playoff picture fallout.

1149
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 5: We'll call it.

1150
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 4: Preller Forever tweets us and says, if Vanderbilt was Notre

1151
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 4: Dame this year and Candace story Lee, the athletic director

1152
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: Tracy at Vanderbilt, went off about it, you'd agree with

1153
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: everything she said. No matter what she said, you'd both

1154
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 4: be right. Quote unquote. Spoiled does not apply to this situation.

1155
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 4: I would disagree, And I understand the point that I

1156
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 4: think he's trying to make.

1157
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 5: I'm assuming it's a that he's trying to make here.

1158
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 4: But the difference between Notre Dame and Vanderbilt is that

1159
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 4: Notre Dame is an independent Vanderbilt belongs to a college

1160
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 4: foot conference in the SEC. Notre Dame is being petulant

1161
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 4: about the ACC despite not wanting to be a member

1162
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: of the conference, which would if they were in the ACC,

1163
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 4: have been the thing that put them guaranteed into the

1164
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 4: College Football Playoffs should they have had the season that

1165
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 4: they did so, I would disagree on that point.

1166
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 5: Those two situations are not created equal.

1167
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: I would agree with you on that.

1168
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 4: So as far as maybe you will not agree with

1169
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: me on this, or maybe you will.

1170
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 5: I'd be curious to get your perspective.

1171
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: Coach of the Year in the NFL may awards it

1172
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 4: in the NFL regular season.

1173
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 5: Maybe you think they're important, maybe you don't.

1174
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 4: But I am curious about this because I have covered

1175
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 4: a Coach of the Year before. It was Mike Vrabel

1176
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one during his time with the Tennessee Titans.

1177
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 4: Mike is again the heavy favorite to win Coach of

1178
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 4: the Year in twenty twenty five. He's minus two point

1179
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 4: fifty depending on where you're looking, most sportsbooks, if not

1180
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: every sports book, has him favored at this point in time.

1181
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: I'm Shane Steichen, who was the second favorite has since

1182
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 4: fallen out since the Colts have taken a bit of

1183
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 4: a dip. Here right now, the top four are Vrabel,

1184
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: Mike McDonald and Seattle. Liam Cohen with the Jags, Ben

1185
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: Johnson with the Bears, and then you have to scroll

1186
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 4: all the way down to find Kyle Shanahan with a

1187
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 4: nine win football team at plus twelve hundred tracy. He

1188
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 4: has no players left besides Christian McCaffrey, and even he

1189
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 4: is now on the injury report ahead of Tomorrow's game

1190
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: against the Titans. This man has worked wizardry to get

1191
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 4: this team, in arguably the toughest division in football, to

1192
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 4: continue to be in a position to potentially win the

1193
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 4: division depending on how all this plays out in the

1194
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 4: next four weeks.

1195
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 5: Why is Kyle Shanahan not getting more Coach of the

1196
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 5: Year love?

1197
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: Because and I first of all think he should be

1198
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 2: getting tremendous coach of the year love. I actually did

1199
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 2: a pull on Instagram a couple weeks ago and said

1200
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: should he be the coach of the Year. I think

1201
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: the reasoning is, this is my guess, is that maybe

1202
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: nashally or maybe people are not paying close of attention

1203
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: to the fact that they've lost Fred Warner, They've lost

1204
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, they lost their their first round draft pick

1205
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: this year. They were six games without brock Purty, they

1206
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: were six games without Ricky pearsall. They were five games

1207
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: without George Kittle. But I think if you look at

1208
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, people look at the forty nine

1209
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: ers and say, yeah, but they have Christian McCaffrey, and

1210
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: they do have brock Purty and Mac Jones played really

1211
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: well and all that. So I think that that might

1212
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: be why that people look at the team and look

1213
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: at the talent around the team, But if you really

1214
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: go into it, it's really unbelievable what he has been

1215
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: able to do. And I think Robert Salla gets a

1216
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: lot of credit for this as well, but what he

1217
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: has been able to do with this team for all

1218
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: of the reasons I just mentioned, because it's not just

1219
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: the guys they lost for the season, it's the carousel

1220
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: of guys that they've been dealing with all season long.

1221
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: We have Tatum Bethune, who was Fred Warner's replacement. He's

1222
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: now out for He's been out for a few games.

1223
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: He'll probably probably come back next week, but there's just

1224
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: so many things that he's had to deal with and

1225
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: has kept this team together and kept them winning. He's

1226
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: not getting enough credit. But my feeling is the reason

1227
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: is that people look at the talent and they're like, well,

1228
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: he has all that talent, even if guys are interest

1229
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: He's got those guys and he has Christian McCaffrey, and

1230
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: I think that which is a huge part of also

1231
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: why they're doing well. But I think that he has

1232
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey comes into play, and I suppose you know.

1233
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 4: I mean, McCaffrey's been awesome this year. He leads them

1234
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: in both rushing and receiving. He's been he's always been

1235
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: a very versatile piece, and honestly, to his credit, since

1236
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 4: that trade from Carolina that saw him land in San Francisco,

1237
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 4: he's been very available, Yeah, which was a huge concern

1238
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 4: after he got that second deal.

1239
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: Other than last year, but yees, other than last year,

1240
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: he's been very available.

1241
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 5: Other than last year.

1242
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 4: But I just guess, I guess on principle what they

1243
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 4: gave up to get him versus what he was at

1244
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 4: the time, Like that was a huge talking point if

1245
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 4: I remember correctly.

1246
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 5: In twenty twenty one.

1247
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 4: Just to kind of put this against the last Coach

1248
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 4: of the Year candidacy and winner that I covered, vrabel had.

1249
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 4: I think they set the record for the number of

1250
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: players that ended up dressing for them throughout the course

1251
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 4: of a football season because of the rash of injuries, right,

1252
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 4: AJ Brown miss time, Julio Jones miss time, Derrick Henry

1253
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 4: was done for the remainder of the regular season, and

1254
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 4: they still won twelve games and were the number one

1255
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 4: overall seed in the AFC.

1256
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 5: And there was some conversation.

1257
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're familiar with Aaron Shots, who's

1258
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 4: formerly a football out outsiders now he does FT and fantasy,

1259
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 4: But he called them the worst number one seed in

1260
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 4: the history of DVOA, right the advanced efficiency metrics. And

1261
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 4: maybe it was right because they pooped themselves in the

1262
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: first round and Ryan Tannehill threw three picks and it

1263
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: was a.

1264
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 5: Terrible, terrible game.

1265
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 4: But what Vrabel did was basically duct tape that thing

1266
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 4: together enough to get them to the point where they

1267
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 4: were winning at a high enough level, and they won

1268
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 4: their division and they won the opportunity to have that

1269
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 4: first round by Shanahan is in a much more loaded

1270
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 4: NFC doing damn near the same thing. And maybe it's not,

1271
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 4: you know, Deontae Foreman or Dante Foreman off the couch

1272
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: or buster screen out there playing corner the way that

1273
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: it was for the Titans in twenty twenty one. But

1274
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 4: this is this is still the degree of difficulty that

1275
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 4: he's done. Their defense is not good. I would say

1276
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: they don't rush the passer, well, they don't turn the

1277
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 4: ball over at an exorbitant rate, but they're good enough

1278
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: to keep them in these games. To give them an

1279
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: opportunity to win. Their offense is still one of the

1280
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 4: most efficient in football despite missing all of those pieces

1281
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: and parts that you named earlier. I mean the fact

1282
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: that McCaffrey is doing both the heavy lifting in on

1283
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: the ground game and as a wide receiver for them

1284
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 4: or as a receiving option for them.

1285
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 5: And I love Juwan Jennings as a Tennessee.

1286
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 4: Product, and you know all the things that Jawan brings,

1287
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 4: But I know that Juwan has his limitations, and that

1288
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 4: if that's if that's basically your number two wide receiver

1289
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 4: out there across from McCaffrey, you're having to do a

1290
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 4: hell of a lot more as far as defending that scheme.

1291
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 4: His scheme is the thing that makes them viable. From

1292
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 4: my perspective, maybe you could disagree.

1293
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: No, I don't disagree at all. I think it is

1294
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the thing that makes them viable.

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Speaker 2: I think he's also going up coaches. I think you

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Speaker 2: look at what the Bears have been and Ben Johnson's

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: come in and turn them around. Mike Rabrael has turned

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Speaker 2: this team around. It's almost as if Kyle Shanahan is

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Speaker 2: a victim of his own success because it's maybe the

1300
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: feeling is well. Of course, of course they're doing well.

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Speaker 2: It's Kyle Shanahan. He could do it. And I don't

1302
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: know if that's part of the thought process too, but

1303
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: it is most certainly his scheme that is keeping them together.

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01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: Mac Jones did a tremendous job. Mac Jones did a

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Speaker 2: tremendous job because I think mac Jones is very talented

1306
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: and because Kyle Shanahan put mac Jones in a position

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Speaker 2: to do a tremendous job. And I do think that

1308
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 2: that is getting underlooked. But I do think also part

1309
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: of it is you have these other teams that were,

1310
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: frankly last year disasters and these coaches. He's come in

1311
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: and just turned things around dramatically. But I really think

1312
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Speaker 2: that that's what is. I think it's that he has

1313
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Speaker 2: so much talent, and so people don't think through what

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Speaker 2: that means. And in all those players I mentioned, I

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01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: did not mention Brandon Ayuk, who has never played us

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01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: out for them this season, so I don't get it myself.

1317
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Speaker 2: I would put him as a favorite to win Coach

1318
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: of the Year. But when I take a step back,

1319
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: the reason I think he's not getting those those accolades,

1320
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Speaker 2: so to speak, are for all the reasons I mentioned.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll get back into the conversation here in just

1322
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 4: a second, but first we have to get updated on

1323
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 4: what's happening in the world of sports.

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Speaker 5: Barton, what you got for us?

1325
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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers activated on the cult active roster. Now, the

1326
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: forty four year old is going to start Sunday against

1327
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 3: the Seahawks. That going to restart his clock for the

1328
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. He's now going to be eligible again

1329
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: in twenty thirty. He was obviously elgible this year and

1330
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 3: decided to go ahead and kick that down, kick that down.

1331
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 5: The road for go throw the ball the Boys.

1332
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: Forty nine Ers have placed Brandon Ayuk on the reserves

1333
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 3: last left squad list. That's ending his season, as Tracy

1334
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 3: just said, probably likely ending his time in San Francisco.

1335
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 3: Forty nine Ers listed Christian McCaffrey as questionable with a

1336
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: back injury, adding to their laundry list of.

1337
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 5: Guys who are nicked up.

1338
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: Cowboys keeping Trayvon Diggs on injury reserve. He's not going

1339
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: to be activated. He did practice all week. He was

1340
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: a limited participant. Apparently had great practice, but not good

1341
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: enough to go Sunday. The Lions downgraded safety Thomas Harper

1342
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 3: and guard Christian Mahogany to out.

1343
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 5: Against the Rams to to at.

1344
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,919
Speaker 3: Well is activated off IR for Los Angeles Hill play

1345
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 3: in that matchup. Bears optimistic Roman Dunese will play on Sunday.

1346
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 3: He's dealing with a foot injury. At the end of

1347
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: the third quarter in the Eastern Conference Semifinals of the

1348
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 3: NBA Cup, the Knicks have a one hundred to ninety

1349
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: two lead over the Orlando Magic right now on Ogi

1350
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: Ananobi with seventeen points leading the Knicks right now, and

1351
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson is on a heater. He's got thirty seven,

1352
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: So good game for him so far.

1353
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 5: See how that one ends up. Back to you, guys,

1354
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 5: So Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Here on Fox Sports Radio, it's Bucking Fits with Tracy

1356
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 4: Sandler filling in for Jason Fits. So, Tracy, we've made

1357
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 4: the second hour the Tracy Sandler Hour because we're dabbling

1358
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 4: in your area of expertise. We've done the Niners. Now

1359
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 4: let's talk about Michigan, where you are an alum. I obviously,

1360
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 4: the Sharon More story is awful, tragic, very very sad.

1361
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 4: So many different people, particularly his family, impacted by the

1362
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 4: scope of it, and we understand the chargers that have

1363
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: since been handed down on him, and that he has

1364
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 4: been relieved of his duties as the Michigan head coach.

1365
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 4: But to make it not to push aside the human element,

1366
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 4: but to make it about the football conversation at this

1367
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 4: point in time, as Michigan alum, understanding that you almost

1368
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 4: can't separate the traumatic story that is the job of

1369
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 4: the Michigan football coach. Where does that kind of put

1370
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 4: you as a Michigan football fan trying to figure out

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 4: who the hell is going to coach that football team

1372
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Speaker 4: next year?

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Speaker 5: Respectfully to Biff Pogey.

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Speaker 2: Yes, respectually to Biff who I think who is great,

1375
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: but I don't think is looking to coach the football

1376
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: team next year. I they they're in a tough place obviously,

1377
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: because they got to figure it out. They got to

1378
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 2: get the right guy, and they got to get the

1379
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: right guy fast because the transfer porter portal opens in

1380
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: on January second. So it's a coaching search that has

1381
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: to happen, and they have to get the right guy

1382
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: at a time where a lot of things have dried up,

1383
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 2: and getting the right that guy might mean getting him

1384
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 2: from somewhere else, and there was a lot of coach

1385
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: talk about dilling him. It looks like that is not

1386
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: going to happen. So they're in a really tough spot there,

1387
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: you know. I go back and forth. I feel like

1388
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: on some level, they really need to swing big, and

1389
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: they need they just got to bring someone in who's

1390
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: really good, who's really proven, will bring immediate stability to

1391
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: the program, all of the things. But by the same token,

1392
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: that person may not exist, and there may be somebody

1393
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: out there who's a really good coach who just is

1394
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: not a thought of as a quote unquote swing big

1395
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: because he hasn't been in a place yet where he's

1396
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: considered so a big time if that makes sense. I'm

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01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: not sure that was the most eloquent way to say that,

1398
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: but I just think they're in a very tough position there,

1399
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: and they're in a position where they also have a

1400
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: ad there who is seemingly part of this process, and

1401
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: he has been problematic. But I think there it's going

1402
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: to be interesting. I saw Dani Rolovsky said the other day,

1403
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: and I thought this was a good way to put it.

1404
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: He said, if I'm Michigan, I don't care that you

1405
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: just signed an extension. I am making the call and

1406
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: make you say no. And I think there are those

1407
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: people out there, and they just are also in a

1408
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 2: hard place because some of those people are coaching in

1409
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff and so those guys are not

1410
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: necessarily in Kiffin and so they're not just going to

1411
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: get up and leave their teams. So there's a lot

1412
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: of moving parts here, a lot of pieces. I have

1413
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: kind of my favorite, who I think is as a

1414
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 2: lot of people's favorite, but they are in a very

1415
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: tough position like this could not have come at a

1416
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: worst time.

1417
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Speaker 5: Who is your favorite?

1418
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Speaker 2: Calin Debor.

1419
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 4: Okay, So he's currently the head coach of the Alabama

1420
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 4: Crimson Tide and he's been there now for what two seasons.

1421
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 4: This is his second season if I'm not mistaken.

1422
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Speaker 2: They a Michigan in the National Championship tw years ago

1423
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: when he was a coach of Washington.

1424
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Speaker 5: There you go.

1425
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 4: So you have now a situation where Alabama is in

1426
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 4: the College Football Playoffs despite looking useless in the SEC

1427
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 4: Championship game against Georgia, something that was a point of contention.

1428
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 5: In my part of the world.

1429
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 4: But as you look at Alabama, there was reporting on

1430
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,439
Speaker 4: two fronts. Todd McShay, whose longtime ESPN are now doing

1431
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 4: draft analysis in college football analysis for The Ringer, said

1432
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 4: that it was possible if Alabama lost the Iron Bowl

1433
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: to Auburn that Kaylen de Boor could be in a

1434
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 4: situation where he was not the coach of Alabama. And

1435
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 4: obviously they won the Iron Bol. They did not win

1436
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: the Iron Ball convincingly, and so Kaylen de Boer continues

1437
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: to be the coach. They now have a College Football

1438
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 4: Playoff berth and they have a first round matchup at Oklahoma,

1439
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 4: which is a fascinating game. That Oklahoma went to Tuscaloosa,

1440
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 4: a rematch that we saw earlier this year. Oklahoma went

1441
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 4: to Tuscaloosa and won. Now there is enough credible noise

1442
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 4: out of Alabama that should Deboor lose have a first

1443
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 4: round exit in the College Football Playoff, that his job

1444
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 4: may still be in danger. This is a circumstance that

1445
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 4: feels very fraught, and I wonder, Tracy, if he's not

1446
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 4: good enough for Alabama, why would you think that he's

1447
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 4: good enough for Michigan or do you think as we

1448
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 4: talked about entitlement early in the show from fans and

1449
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 4: different elements of the sports world. Do you think Alabama

1450
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 4: just has two highest standards all was going to be

1451
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 4: an impossible element to try and be the guy after

1452
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 4: Nick Saban.

1453
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: I think that, I really do. I think that that.

1454
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 2: I just think what impossible. I would not want to

1455
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 2: be the person that calls Nick Saban. Nick Saban is

1456
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: not just an Alabama legend. He is a legend the kids.

1457
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 2: It's like following in football. It's like following football. God,

1458
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it really is. It's that's what it's like.

1459
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: So I think whatever he does short of winning the

1460
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: championship at Alabama, he's just not going to be considered

1461
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: good enough. And Saban did not win the championship his

1462
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 2: last year, But I think the standard is basically impossible

1463
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: for the person after to more whoever, whenever and whoever

1464
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: that is. I don't necessarily think that'll be the case,

1465
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: but right now I think that is the case. So

1466
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: I think he is good enough for Alabama. I just

1467
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 2: think the expectations are way too high based on his predecessor.

1468
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: One thing I don't want to see them do, and

1469
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: I could be wrong about this, is I think they

1470
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 2: got to get somebody who's been a head coach. They

1471
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: can't bring in another coordinator. I mean it's not it's

1472
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: not the fault of all coordinators everywhere that they can't

1473
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: become head coaches because of what happened with Sharon More.

1474
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: But because of what happened with Sharon More, they have

1475
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: to bring somebody in who is a proven head coach

1476
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 2: who has done well in the places that he has

1477
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: been And I mean I think Klen Debori. I mean,

1478
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: he went to the National Championship. He lost to Michigan,

1479
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: but Michigan had a team of eighteen guys that went

1480
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: to the NFL after that. After that season, he got

1481
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: Alabama to a bowl game, which he lost to Michigan.

1482
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: Last year, and then this year they're in the playoffs.

1483
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: I think, I think he's a really really good coach

1484
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: and I'd love to see him in the Maze and

1485
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: Blue should that be the case.

1486
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 4: Another interesting element here, and there's been no reported or

1487
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: rumored interest from either side at this point in time.

1488
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 4: Kyle Whittingham on Friday announced that he the second longest

1489
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 4: tenured head coach in college football, twenty one years at Utah,

1490
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 4: where he's had a very very successful program. Now he's

1491
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 4: obviously a little longer in the tooth. But experience is

1492
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 4: not the concern there, and it was made clear in

1493
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 4: Stuart Mandel's reporting at The Athletic that he was not

1494
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 4: retiring after twenty one years at Utah, just simply stepping

1495
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 4: away from the program.

1496
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 5: At this point in time.

1497
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 4: He's been there since taking over for urban Meyer, for

1498
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 4: as long ago as that has been when urban Meyer

1499
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 4: was the coach.

1500
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Speaker 2: Sorry for my visceral reaction to the words urban Meyer.

1501
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 5: I understand for different reasons.

1502
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 4: I understand, but I would you be interested in Kyle

1503
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: Whittingham or is that too much experience because you're.

1504
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 5: Looking for something a little more long term at Michigan.

1505
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's too much experience. I think again,

1506
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: based on what they have gone through the last several days,

1507
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: perhaps that sort of stabilizing presence who has been doing

1508
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 2: this for a very long time is a good person.

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: Have You're right, he's been very successful at Utah. He

1510
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: has been there twenty one years. I mean, I wouldn't

1511
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 2: want them to hire a coach that, in theory, has

1512
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: gone in two years. I mean that I don't think

1513
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: is what they want. They need someone who can be

1514
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 2: there a few years to kind of keep the programs stable,

1515
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 2: continue recruiting well, get rice underword going like all of

1516
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: the things, and make them successful. You know, I think

1517
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: I think Michigan fans have had a little bit of

1518
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 2: entitlement because they look at those past, those last few

1519
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: years under Harbaugh and how successful they were, and they

1520
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 2: were tremendously successful, and they had some of the best

1521
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: players in the country. But you can't compare and this

1522
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: is you know, one thing I think that was happening

1523
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: in the show More era. You can't compare those the

1524
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: current teams to those teams, and so Michigan fans can

1525
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 2: be a little bit entitled too, which a coach is

1526
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: going to have to deal with. But I would be

1527
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: interested in that. I think stable and successful are huge

1528
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 2: things for this team right now because there's been a

1529
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 2: lot of before this. You know, they won the national championship.

1530
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 2: I love Jim harbaught like more than anything, but there's

1531
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: been a lot of things that have been missing in

1532
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 2: the last several years, and so I think bringing someone

1533
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 2: in with some stability, maybe it's not like the sexiest

1534
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: name in the world, but that doesn't make him not

1535
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: a good coach.

1536
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 4: Well, stability and success. It's not what this show is

1537
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 4: famous for, but we will do what we are known for.

1538
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 4: Would you rather?

1539
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 5: With Tracy Sandler filling in for Jason Fitz coming up.

1540
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 4: Next, welcome back on this Fox Sports Saturday, it's fucking

1541
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 4: fits with Tracy Sandler, who's been so kind to fill in,

1542
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,560
Speaker 4: She's brought up the level of professionalism.

1543
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 5: By quite a lot.

1544
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 4: Now the bar was very low, but nonetheless we've gotten

1545
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 4: it done.

1546
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 5: Tracy. We do appreciate it, but you have one more

1547
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 5: thing to do.

1548
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 4: I'm excited before you say that until you hear Ian's prompts,

1549
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 4: and then you'd probably be concerned and you'll never talk

1550
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 4: to any of us again.

1551
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1552
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 4: Again, Ian's chat GPT is being fed weird things. That's

1553
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 4: producing even weirder would you rather?

1554
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 5: Question?

1555
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 6: But it's true.

1556
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 4: Are we ready for the Wheel? Are we ready for

1557
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 4: America's favorite game show? Are we ready Ian for? Would

1558
01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 4: you rather?

1559
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 6: Okay, that's right, it is, would you rather? I'm just

1560
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 6: gonna give you guys a few would you rather? Questions

1561
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 6: and you're gonna answer and then we get out of

1562
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 6: here nice and easy.

1563
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: Great.

1564
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, then, yeah, So Tracy's it's true. The positivity bar

1565
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 6: was in the basement, So you've really you've really upped

1566
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 6: the ante.

1567
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 4: Here positivity, you believe professionalism, both.

1568
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 6: But let's jump in. Let's go ahead and spin the

1569
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 6: wheel and I go first.

1570
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you got it.

1571
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 6: Okay, this is a good one to start with. Would

1572
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 6: you rather be trapped in a romantic comedy with people

1573
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 6: you can't stand or trapped in a horror movie with

1574
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 6: your best friends?

1575
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: Oh, romantic comedy for sure. I don't do well with

1576
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: horror movies.

1577
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 4: No, it's I'm very squeamish, very very squeamish when it

1578
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 4: comes to the horror movies. Yeah, because then at that point,

1579
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 4: you're just watching your best friends die around you, right

1580
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 4: in a horror movie, or maybe you die first, depending

1581
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 4: on the circumstance.

1582
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,480
Speaker 5: Like it's that's that's almost a moral cruel, a moral cruel.

1583
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 4: Scenario to be with with it in it with your buddies,

1584
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 4: but they're just getting picked off one by one, unless,

1585
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 4: of course you go first, and then maybe that's a

1586
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:07,839
Speaker 4: bit of a merciful situation.

1587
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, give me the romantic comedy with people I hate.

1588
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: Well.

1589
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: Also, isn't the point of a romantic comedy to then

1590
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: fall in love with the people you hate.

1591
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 6: So I mean that's true. Do you want to?

1592
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 8: Though?

1593
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: I don't know because I'm not sure who the people are.

1594
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: But I'm still staying in the romantic comedy, you.

1595
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 6: Know, like our good enemies to lover's trope.

1596
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, it's a vest works every time.

1597
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 6: All right, let's spend it again, this damn wheel, don't

1598
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 6: hit on it. Would you rather hit every red light

1599
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 6: you ever come across? Or always get slow internet when

1600
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 6: the sun goes down?

1601
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 2: Red light?

1602
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 5: Oh? Slow internet when the sun goes down?

1603
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 6: Though, that's a nightmare on as a journalist too, Like,

1604
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 6: that's actually really really tough.

1605
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 5: That's a disaster.

1606
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,879
Speaker 4: No, give me the red lights. I'd sitting in San Francisco.

1607
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 4: Effic By the way, I don't know how the people

1608
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 4: in San Francisco do it. It's so brute. I mean,

1609
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 4: just California in general. You guys have infinitely more patience

1610
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 4: than I do. But yeah, I'll take I'll take the

1611
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 4: red light. The internet situation. It has to be top

1612
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 4: speed at all times or I'll have a padic attack.

1613
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 6: All right, Tracy, would you rather be extremely allergic to

1614
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 6: your favorite food? I guess we'll say, become extremely allergic

1615
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 6: to your favorite food because you have to have a

1616
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 6: reason for it being your favorite, or forced to eat

1617
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 6: your least favorite food once a week.

1618
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:41,839
Speaker 2: Oh, extremely allergic to my favorite food, buck, or what's.

1619
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 5: The other option.

1620
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 6: So you're either extremely allergic to your favorite food or

1621
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 6: forced to eat your least favorite food once a week.

1622
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 6: So essentially, you never eat your favorite food ever again,

1623
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 6: or you'll die. Or you have to eat your least

1624
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 6: favorite or you'll die.

1625
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:54,839
Speaker 5: Okay, you just said allergic.

1626
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,879
Speaker 4: I said extremely We're not gonna die if I'm lactose

1627
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 4: and tolerant.

1628
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 6: I have some ice cream extreme allergic. So I'm assuming

1629
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 6: this is like pretty bad. Maybe you survive.

1630
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe you survive, but it's it's it's up in

1631
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 4: the air.

1632
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 5: You're at least redlining for a little bit.

1633
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 6: Don't eat your favorite food ever again. No, I think

1634
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 6: I would rather.

1635
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 4: I think I would rather have a situation where I

1636
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 4: was forced to eat my least favorite food weekly rather

1637
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 4: than be extremely allergic to my favorite food. You know

1638
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 4: how I love my saying almost steaks? Do you take

1639
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 4: those out of my life? I don't think I could

1640
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 4: go on. I can't do it.

1641
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 6: You can hold your nose too. There's things that can

1642
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,879
Speaker 6: make it easier that weekly.

1643
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 5: What's your least favorite food and what would that be

1644
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 5: for you?

1645
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 6: I don't know if on the spin I could come

1646
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 6: up with my least favorite, but I I know a

1647
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 6: hot take is that I don't like eggs. I'm not

1648
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 6: an eggs guy, and I usually get a lot of

1649
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 6: flak for that.

1650
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 5: No eggs alone not not not a good food. I

1651
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 5: need eggs with things.

1652
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 4: I need eggs with toast, I need eggs with bacon,

1653
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 4: I need you know, I need eggs our ancillary.

1654
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 6: Even though I have.

1655
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 4: Not an eat eggs Golden Coral. I don't eat at

1656
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 4: Golden Corral, Mary.

1657
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 5: Damn redneck.

1658
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 6: All right, first, really weird one we've gotten yet? Would

1659
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 6: you rather have five half sized clones of yourself or

1660
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 6: one full sized clone of yourself? Take that however you will, Tracy, I'm.

1661
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: Going to go one full sized clone. I would be

1662
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: so much less tired if there was one more of me,

1663
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: five five with five minie one such a.

1664
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 6: Positive way of looking at it. I would have been like,

1665
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 6: I don't want them to take my identity and stuff.

1666
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want my one clone.

1667
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 5: Correct, the one clone will undermine you.

1668
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 4: They'll take your identity, They'll they'll steal your banking information,

1669
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 4: they'll read your havoc find.

1670
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 6: Your life, Buck, I'm sorry.

1671
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: My clone would not do that. You've spent the last

1672
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 2: two hours with me. My clone would never do that.

1673
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 6: If it's might be an evil clone, yeah, Bucks, straight up,

1674
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,520
Speaker 6: clone would just try to take his identity.

1675
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 4: My clone would absolutely wreak havoc on my life. We've

1676
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 4: wreaked hab it for two hours today. Keep it locked

1677
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio.