1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, what about you anything? Don't say working, I'm 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: jump I'm gonna ump over this table he started. You know, 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm just committed to work. It's all that matters, is 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: you The Odd Couple listeners, Listen, I do it for you. 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: I'm committed to this show. I am. Then I tell 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: you I'm about to jump over the table. I'm being honest, 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: I'm I am. 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 4: And when people see that I work like this, cause 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: I take off and I travel. 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: I'm a world. It's not like I don't go anywhere. 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 5: I'm some guy who doesn't have friends or I got 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 5: nothing but friends and family, right, I know that, But 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 5: but I am committed to this and as long as 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 5: I'm here, I'm. 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: Gonna be committed to this show. Because when I'm done, 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 3: I will be done. 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 4: I won't be being on once in a while. 25 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: I won't be like, hey, Kevin. 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: You won't be the guy we got a point to 27 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: and go whoever. The new coach says, hey, look at 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: this guy on TV like you do every day. No, 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: that's our favorite pastime. You pointing out the old people 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: that no longer should be on TV. 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: That is good. Camera two in the middle of a 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: hot topic. 33 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: In the middle the Lakers need Oh my, oh god, Alex, 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh God, Alex. 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: Graveyard. He looks like he's dead on TV. Oh God. 36 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: You know this is why you got the brutal The 37 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: best part is you got the best part in they're 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: just like dropping job on. 39 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: No way, rob G yo. 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: He reaches over and turns my mic off so that 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: he can tell so that he can tell me about it. 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: Turn your Michael Man. Look at this dude right there, 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: Look at him, Look at that. I'm rob G. You're 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: not buying into that. I'm not like one of these guys. 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 6: I love everybody, and it's not You're even just an 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 6: agist because you'll be like, robb G. 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: What's Ryan Clark? What right? 48 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I know your name is Ryan Clark. You 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: don't need r C everywhere. Yes, I thought it was R. C. 50 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: Cola. 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: All right, why would you give him the idea? 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: Let's welcome into the Odd Couple crew, because we wouldn't 53 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: be able to do this fine radio program without them. 54 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: Rob g is our producer. Mexican is Alex's engine. 55 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 7: You're a hidden talent. 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, say that. 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: He did say that you're a hidden chalent. And you 58 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 4: know what, somebody else on Twitter or something said the same. 59 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: What yeah, it must be talking about the next show? 60 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: Right, No, no, no, what about your show? Okay? 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: Steve de Saga's at the anchor desk, he stated throughout 62 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 4: the program, and Sacer is our social media guru. 63 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: In for a love, Sacer, can we see us? Yes, 64 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: he'll set up, but we want to see it. 65 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: There we go, all right, Rob g U, I think 66 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: we talked about this on Friday, that if Shador can't 67 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: beat the Raiders, he can't beat anybody. 68 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: And guess that's what I said. Remember I did you? No, 69 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: I'm staying with you consistent. Did I not say that Friday? 70 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: You did say that? Come on? 71 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 5: If I said if he can't beat them, then he 72 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 5: really got some issues. 73 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: But go ahead, Rob. 74 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: The thing is he did beat them, beat them pretty sound. 75 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: I'll say them us beat us? Yes, there you go, 76 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: beat us so bad? Or oh got fired after the game? 77 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean, who is who has failed up more than 78 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly Rob Parker. 79 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 6: Of Rock staring into the camera the you two to 80 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 6: let me hear that later ros A good joke. 81 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 8: What I swear every day for this show disrespect to 82 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 8: come here and get disrespected. 83 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: That was a good joke. 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: It was a good God forty years. 85 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 4: Or zero, most guys in this business get a cup 86 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: of coffee in this sweet role. 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: Them up, Robie years. I think you're just rolling a segment. 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 6: No kick going, okay, all right, yeah, schaduor Sander's gotta win. 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 6: In his NFL starting debut eleven of twenty two or 90 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 6: nine a touchdown in a pick. He now owns the 91 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 6: two longest completions of the season for the Cleveland Browns 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 6: in one season, as he will be starting next week 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 6: when they've faced the San Francisco forty nine ers. And 94 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 6: if you ask shaduor Sanders about it, he's not surprised. 95 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: Take a listen. 96 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 9: Everybody's not in the best situation, but it's no excuse. 97 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 9: You gotta go out there and perform like there's no choice, 98 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 9: is no question, nobody cares. If this is when we 99 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 9: could prep, who cares? 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 7: You know? 101 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 9: So a lot of people wanted to see me feel 102 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 9: and it ain't gonna happen. You know, it ain't gonna happen. 103 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: Rob. 104 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: I just think it really comes down to when you 105 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: look at what Dylan Gabriel was doing me and you 106 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: talked about it on it wasn't bad. 107 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: It was just eh, you know, it wasn't bad. It 108 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: wasn't good. 109 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: It was just kind of enough to keep it round 110 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: a couple of two, three weeks. And then I think 111 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: the difference with Shadur is Shadure ended up having that 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: juice something about him, got that juice from his teammates. 113 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett over here falling about his past and you 114 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: talk about the the Mona passes he had. He had 115 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: ten point four yards per a tent, which was the 116 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: best by any quarterback throughout this season. He had the 117 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: longest pass play of the season for at that time 118 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: when he completed it. And I just think that extra 119 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: bit of juice literally in a physical sense, the ability 120 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: to go downfield. And Stefanski talked about it. They say 121 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: why now, why him? He said, at the end of 122 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: the day, his ability to go downfield. He had a 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: few plays that were, you know, launched down there thirty 124 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: plus yards Dylan Gabriel Henley had won in his handful 125 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: of starts, and I think that was a difference along 126 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: with not just the tangible things you see on the field, 127 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: the intangibles, what I think people believe in him. I 128 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: think his teammates he just gives him an extra spark. 129 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: And when you're looking at two quarters back to a 130 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: rookies who are not as if they're coming in Andrew Luck, 131 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: you know this is you're supposed to be the guy. 132 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: That little bit is a separator, and that little bit 133 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: is enough for win you the job for you know, 134 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm assuming the rest of the season, We'll have to 135 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: see how it all plays out. 136 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: And now here we are. 137 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: It's funny and it's like, after all that we talked 138 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: about in the offseason, all up and during the draft, 139 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: all to the beginning of preseason. During the season, Shadure 140 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: Sanders has a chance to end up starting potentially would 141 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: end up being like seven games if he ends up 142 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: riding this thing out, which would be a great start. 143 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: To a rookie campaign to get those starts and those 144 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: legs reps under you, get your legs under you moving 145 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: into next season if he ends up being a starter 146 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: or not. But that's what to me. I knew when 147 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: we were sitting here that he would have a chance 148 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: to start some games this season with Joe Flacco, who 149 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: he already knew he was, Kenny Piety, we knew he 150 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: wasn't even a part of this, and in Dylan Gabriel 151 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: just a rookie we don't know, but we had a 152 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: shot of seventeen weeks him not gonna be able to 153 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: start off seventeen. So Shaduer got his crack, he made 154 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: the best of it, and now he is for the 155 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: projective future. 156 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: So congrats to him. 157 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 5: So lame and so weak, but that's what I expected 158 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 5: from you, because this was under any if this was 159 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 5: any other quarterback without the name Chador Sanders for a 160 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 5: guy had two hundred yards that and in fact, Geno 161 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: Smith had a better quarterback rating that yesterday. 162 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: Gino Smith had a better quarterback rating than Shador Sanders. 163 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 5: And guess what, Gino Smith's offensive coordinator got fired off 164 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 5: of that game. But here's my point, yes, he had 165 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: one dump off that went for sixty what was it, 166 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 5: sixty six yards? 167 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: It was a dump off. 168 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: They're making it like and Miles Garrett is standing there 169 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: like he's never seen anybody throw a ball fifty yards 170 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: or whatever, like really like, it's the over drama. 171 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: It's the it's the over drama of the what am 172 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: I trying to say. 173 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: Over dramatizing, dramatization of a guy as if he walked 174 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: off the street and he can't pl football. 175 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: Nobody said he can't play. 176 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 4: Can he be a starting quarterback and replicate that week 177 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: after week after week? Yes, I expected him to play 178 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: pretty well. If he had a bad game. You know 179 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: what people would have said today, Well. 180 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: Dony his first dart. 181 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 10: You can't Dony his first dart. And I'm not saying 182 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 10: he played poorly. He played Okay, he played okay. If 183 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 10: this was Dylan Gabriel, you'll be telling me the same thing. 184 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 5: Oh was okay, he had an interception, he dumped off 185 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 5: for a sixty six yard pass, Okay, he played fine. 186 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 5: But now people are trying to justify their narrative for him, 187 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 5: and the same thing. He could sit there all day, 188 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 5: people hoping that our failed. Whatever, go ahead with the 189 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 5: US against the world. 190 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: You have to win games. 191 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 5: You'll have to continue to play well, so you can 192 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 5: use all of that the same people. 193 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Oh the Cleveland brow, they're shutting him up to fail. 194 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: Did they set him up to face yesterday? No, he 195 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: got to start against the Raiders. No, that was that 196 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: a setup? You still believe that, Oh, absolutely believe. I'm 197 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: glad you mentioned that. I'll get you this, Rob. 198 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: Do we have any of the sound of Stefanski congratulating him, because, 199 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: my guys, that was the worst congratulatory Uh, come. 200 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: On, started to a guy to a guy. 201 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: You don't need a guy to a guy who got 202 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: You know how many times they go like this, all right, 203 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: good gay, we were sixty ten or third downs and 204 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: give it up for this guy. You got his first winning, right, crazy? 205 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: He didn't get that. 206 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 7: Yeah we did. 207 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: We did this in a real game. Yeah, good game. 208 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: No, they knew they couldn't go back to Dylan gab 209 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,239 Speaker 1: It doesn't. 210 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: Even make That's what they knew. They could not go 211 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 3: back to. 212 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel because in the best about it, nothing nothing 213 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: nothing you said, nothing you said had any any change 214 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: anything in what I said. 215 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: He's the first quarterback. 216 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: Dude, a wedding, a wedding starting, come on the start 217 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: their first game? What are you talking about? What does 218 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: that mean to you? What does that mean that an 219 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: organization who never has a quarterback that starts? 220 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: Well? What does he just started? Well? 221 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: So if Dylan Gabriel won, he should be the quarterback 222 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: for the rest of his career. 223 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: If Dylan Gabriel started, If Dylan Gabriel started, won the game. 224 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: Went down the field multiple. 225 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: Times this see he has a bad game and throws 226 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: three picks and it's terrible at his next start. 227 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: What does that mean? That means he had three picks 228 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: and look terrible at first start. But if he looks 229 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: like the guy that has a higher. 230 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: Ceiling game, if he has a higher nelly only saying 231 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: that because it should Doe, it's. 232 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: The same. 233 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: Lord, if he's got a higher ceiling, you go with 234 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: that guy. What I told you was he was gonna start. 235 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: That's what I told you. How did he start? What 236 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: do you mean he starts? How did he get the start? 237 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: How did he get the start? Because he just performed, No, 238 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: he did not. How did he get to start? You 239 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: answer the question? How did he get to start because 240 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: because what Dylan Gabriel got hurt Dylan Gabriel her right 241 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: now because they just he's gonna get the start because 242 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: he did not. They say, you clear, now, that's how 243 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: we got start who started, That's how we got But 244 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: that's not you. 245 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: I said that was the case if he was the 246 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 5: guy you're talking about. And how about the Jews and 247 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 5: all that, it's the same nonsense, the same nonsense that 248 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 5: you told me with the Steelers. 249 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: Let me talk. Go ahead, let me talk. Stop interrupting me, 250 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: stop interrupting. 251 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: Go ahead, the same garment you told me, uh with 252 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: the with the Steelers and how what's called took over 253 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: the locker room and all the players are behind him 254 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: and he had more up the up Jews for everybody 255 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 4: else and they all rallied around him and all that 256 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: other stuff. All I'm saying is you're hoping and wishing. 257 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: The results will be the final answer, not what you're 258 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 4: hoping and wishing. And that's what you always do. You 259 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: pick a guy. 260 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: And you know that told you he would start, he's starting. 261 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: Stop told you he was. You did not he had 262 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: he already had had started over him. He didn't even 263 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: have Tom repped up and up until this week, up 264 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: until this week, and he was starting more. That's what 265 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: Lord Gabriel had, all these number one starts. He had 266 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: to start because. 267 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 3: They won a game. 268 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: They beat the Raiders, Big wamp man, stop overreacting. 269 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 3: Till you go. 270 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: You all came in cool action you did? I said, 271 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: he played pretty ridiculous. The team had like you of 272 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: the Year? Now is he should do a Rookie of 273 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: the Year losing it over because because it was this 274 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: was any. 275 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 4: Other quarterback and without the regular Joe blow name. Ain't 276 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 4: no way you coming in here? Are we even talking 277 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: about a guy through for two hundred and nine yards 278 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: and sixty six of the with a with a quarterback 279 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: rating of seventy seven. A uh two hundred and nine? 280 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: You are sixty six on a dump off play. 281 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: Come on, man, stop and I'll tell you that you're wrong, 282 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: because we did this for Jackson Dart. 283 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: No, we did not do the same thing. 284 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 285 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 286 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 287 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 288 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 11: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre join me every weekday morning 289 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 11: on my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 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I don't know they they the 306 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 5: Colts had them down, situations looked like they were gonna 307 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: beat them, didn't score in the fourth quarter or overtime. 308 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: Chiefs are racing eleven point deficit and win. But I 309 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 5: know you thought the offense had taken a turn. They 310 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 5: had a handful of weeks, but they it's been it's 311 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 5: kind of falling back, rob g. The offense is just 312 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 5: not that not that potent. What hasn't been. 313 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, the Colts had them dead to right early in 314 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter, up by eleven. The Chiefs had just 315 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 6: fumbled the ball away to them. Right, Hey, the clock's 316 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 6: in your favor. Run the clock down, milk it as 317 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 6: far as you can. They got to score twice with 318 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 6: a two point conversion just to tie. Okay, and somehow, 319 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 6: someway they need to have this. Colts decide to call 320 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 6: nine Daniel Jones passing plays in the final twelve plays 321 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 6: of the game. 322 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Got Jonathan Taylor, by the way, he wasn't having a 323 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: great game, but he. 324 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: Was fifty something yard. 325 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: But you still have to run the ball for the clock. 326 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 4: They have to burn their timeouts. Have to do it 327 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: right to stop it and keep the defense honest. 328 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 6: If nothing else, dude, the Colts did not gain a 329 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 6: first down in the fourth quarter overtime. Jones completed three 330 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 6: of nine attens for seventeen yards during that span between 331 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter and overtime. 332 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: Is that Daniel Jones again and Chiefs defense? How the 333 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: Colts are in total? 334 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 6: How the Colts the ten first down the two and 335 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 6: fifty five total yards, both season lows for Indianapolis. But 336 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 6: to your point, Rob, offensively for the Chiefs because their 337 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 6: defense play came to play obviously, Yeah, they slammed the door. 338 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 6: Offensively is another uneven performance. Patrick Mahomes another zero touchdown 339 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 6: one in. 340 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: The last three games. Now, Rob, do you go ahead? 341 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 6: One touchdown, three picks with the passer rating in. 342 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: The seventies, it's just unbelievable. 343 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 6: And offensively as a unit, Kansas City, with arguably the 344 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 6: greatest quarterback ever one of the greatest coaches, are averaging 345 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 6: a robust twenty points per game, which if this was 346 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 6: the length of the season, would ranked in the bottom 347 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 6: six in the NFL, which is alongside quarterbacks and teams 348 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 6: such as JJ McCarthy, Justin Fields, Geno Smith, the teams 349 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 6: of that nature. 350 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: And I think this is to me and who would 351 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: have thought this. 352 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: Their offense will be the reason they don't make the 353 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 5: playoffs because it just hasn't been up to snuff and 354 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 5: when they've played Now, now, the Cults are a good team, right, 355 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 5: they were what eight and three going in. That's a 356 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: rare win for them against a good team. And it 357 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: took and it took the Colts like not doing what 358 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 5: you should do when you have a lead in a 359 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: fourth quarter, which is running football, eight o'clock whatever, even overtime. 360 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: They didn't do it. 361 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 5: And my point is it looked like when they got 362 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 5: some of those receivers back. You saw that for what 363 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 5: was it, three weeks they had three weeks? 364 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 3: What they look like? Oh, Patrick Mahomes is the MVP. 365 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: Where did that go? Remember that conversation? 366 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, unless he they would have to go on a 367 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: crazy win every game, and he put up two or 368 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: three touchdowns a game for that. 369 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 5: I don't even I just the three this this three 370 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 5: game stretch right here, one touchdown three in that regard 371 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 5: and that in that regard, And I think that when 372 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 5: you look at it, they easily could have lost that 373 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 5: third this third game, it's a miracle that they won, 374 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 5: kept their season alive. 375 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 3: What are they six and five? Now? They still got 376 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: a hard way to go. 377 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 5: It ain't like an easy because you got two teams 378 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 5: ahead of them and a whole bunch of teams, so 379 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: it's it's not like they're out of the woods. But 380 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 5: I think their offense is what's hurting them more than anything. 381 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 5: And will be the reason why the Chiefs don't make 382 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 5: the playoffs. 383 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: And I'm still sticking to that despite the win. 384 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 5: Obviously, if they would have lost Sunday and be five 385 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: and six, I mean, they really would have had a hurdle. 386 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: It's still gonna be different. 387 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: I think that win saved their season. You know, if 388 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna make the postseason, that was it. They lose that, 389 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: they're out. I don't even care if the mathematically they 390 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: still have probability of a chick. They would have been 391 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: out had they lost that game at that particular time. 392 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Now we'll see how the rest of the season goes. 393 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: They can lose it, you know where they can lose. 394 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: They couldn't lose that. That would have been too many games 395 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: with too many big games to come. So a couple 396 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: of things. I hear you on the offense the last 397 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: handful of games, but when you look at the numbers, 398 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: we were all saying, what's wrong with the Chiefs. This 399 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: is two years in a row. Last year, Patrick Mahomes 400 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: doesn't look right. I was saying he's missing easy passes 401 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: he normally doesn't. Here's the crazy part. This season compared 402 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: to last season, points per game they're ninth. 403 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: Last season. 404 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: Fifteenth yards per game they're seventh last season, sixteenth, passing 405 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: yards per game they're fifth. Fifth last season they were 406 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: fourteen teenth and again rushing yards there sixteenth, and they 407 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: were twenty seconds. So in every one of the metrics 408 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: that you'd want to go by offensively, they actually are 409 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: better than in some cases significantly better, but. 410 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: Not not of late. 411 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: I'm talking about of late these last three games where 412 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 5: they were one and two. 413 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, so they went a whole season being 414 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: mid literally the definition of mid sixteen, fourteen to fifteenth, 415 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: and then we're able to still be fifteen and two 416 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: because of that defense and those one of course, the 417 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: one score games, which which they haven't. 418 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: Been able to struggle, but they finally got that one. Yep. 419 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: So the offense, if the offense can be. 420 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: A better hybrid of what they were the beginning of 421 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: this season, you know, the first the last four games 422 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: prior to the three game stretch, if they can be 423 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: closer to that, along with this defense, they're still going 424 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: to be a very difficult team to beat. And when 425 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: you start to project out a little bit uh things 426 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: that hold in their favor, this is the conversation I 427 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: was having with you last week about Josh Allen. ROGI 428 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: he's two win seven was the stat when he doesn't 429 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: score a touchdown? Josh Allen, if he's two and seven, 430 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: if he doesn't put up a touchdown in the game, 431 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: and that's the bird in the onus is always on him. 432 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: Rois Patrick mahomes to what we were just saying, can 433 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: have three hundred and fifty yards in an interception with 434 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: no touchdown last he last yesterday and still win a game. 435 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: So that's the credit and the luxury he has of 436 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: having a really good defense and having a coaching staff 437 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: that can find other ways to win. Also, you start 438 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: to look at their schedule down the stretch, they got 439 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: a handful of three games that are kind of the 440 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: tough games if you will. They got the Cowboys coming 441 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: up on Thanksgiving, should be beatable. They obviously got a 442 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: big win. No, I agree. That's why I completely agree. 443 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: The Cowboys offensively a very difficult team. They put up 444 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: points one hundred percent. So if you're the Chiefs, you're 445 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: feeling like, all right, that's a winnable, gonna be tough. 446 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: Then they got to play the Texans, a very good 447 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: team when it comes to defensively, but they play him 448 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: at home. They play the Broncos later in the season, 449 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: they play them at home, so a handful of the 450 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: game is a tougher one, and the Chargers they play 451 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: at home. 452 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 4: But the only thing is, you know, you're not you 453 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: can't split, you know what I mean, Like like, even 454 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: though game you can't split where you are at six 455 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 4: and five, flitting is not gonna help you. 456 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: They have a two game max cushion, and depending on 457 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: how that works out, that might not be good enough 458 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: if the wrong in their case, the wrong team the 459 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: right team for the other team, you know. 460 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: Win because there's two tie breakers and all that. So 461 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: because they've already lost the tie breakers, didn't they to Denver? 462 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: Well won and there they've lost one with Denver. Now 463 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: Denver has a better record, they're not gonna be able 464 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: to catch Denver. It's gonna be some other teams in 465 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: the AFC because they're not catching them. It'll be the Chargers, 466 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: for instance. 467 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: They don't have the tie breakers with the Jags. The 468 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 6: Bills are the two most important ones, and those are 469 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: huge for the playoff, you know what I mean. 470 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: If if they're in the playoffs. 471 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting with the Jacks to how they finish 472 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: their season because the Jazski go from minute to not 473 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: even close. If they mess around and lose two three straight. 474 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 3: That's the one good shot though. 475 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: Where Patrick is though, I'm just you know, because you 476 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: thought that they had turned the corner. He got his 477 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: receivers back, but he's kind of reverted back to what 478 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 4: we were using seeing. 479 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: Disappointing for me is the odd turnovers meaning I don't 480 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: expect you always have three four touchdowns, but the odd odd, 481 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: untimely turnovers. Not the first quarter, chucked it down the field, 482 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: big time up, big time turnovers. Did that last week 483 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: where it was a ten point swing, point swing and 484 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: he threw it right and Ry, I mean, do it 485 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: in the guy's number, the defenders numbers. So that's the 486 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: part to me that's been disappointing is again it ain't 487 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: always about just the big numbers. It's the fact that 488 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: you're turning it over at uncharacteristically bad times. 489 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: That's what he's been known for not doing. And you know, 490 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: not me. 491 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: I've been the guy makes the clutch plays and so 492 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: that's been one. But when you look there's another couple 493 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: of other stats that do both in their favor. 494 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: Is the shine off of him? 495 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 5: Seriously and not not not not for his career. 496 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about he's already he's already established his career. 497 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: He's a Hall of Fame quarterback no matter what he does, 498 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 5: because he won three Super Bowls, two MVP. 499 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: Like, like, I get all that, but I don't. I don't. 500 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: At one point, and you know, Chris was on the 501 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: show it's calling him Jordan Esk. I don't think anybody 502 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: could call him that anymore, like like that kind of shine. 503 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: Even last year despite the fifteen and one record, when 504 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 5: he was there, you looked and said, yeah, they won, 505 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: but his stats weren't that great. 506 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 3: I think there's some shine off of him. The only 507 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: I don't disagree with the sentiment. 508 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: Where I'll disagree is because no one else is taking 509 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: it from him, specifically in his own conference, you get 510 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, no one's taking it from him. 511 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: So if this were the now the Josh Allen era, 512 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: I would get it. This was the Lamar era, I 513 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: would get it. The only foe he's really had as 514 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: of recent is the Jalen Hurts. You know who battle 515 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: back and forth. They want both for one and one. 516 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: They both one. But that's to me the reason why 517 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: he still owns the conference. And if we get into 518 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: the postseason, what if what if he ends up getting 519 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: right back to like as bad as he was he 520 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl, Like that's the that's the floor. 521 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what I mean, that's the floor, 522 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 5: but it's not. It's not the Patrick Mahomes led to 523 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 5: the super Bowl where you feel invincible, Like like that's 524 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 5: I'm just saying he used to he was at one plateau, 525 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 5: he's he's sixteenth in passer rating. That that's like middle 526 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 5: of the road. He should be in the top five 527 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 5: or the top seven or somewhere of that. The idea 528 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 5: that he's in the middle of the pack, Rob g 529 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 5: who's below him? 530 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: And who's above him? I'm just curious as to be sixteenth. 531 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 6: So in passer rating the guy he's directly ahead of Jackson. 532 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 3: Dark Do you see what I'm saying? And DJ Stroud. 533 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 6: Who had a terrible start to the season, Baker Mayfield 534 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 6: has been struggling recently, and Caleb Williams. 535 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying. And then thirteenth in interceptions 536 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: thirteenth interceptions. 537 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 6: Yes, now that's only because my guy Geno Smith is. 538 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 3: Just he's running away with it. Yeah, hold my bag, 539 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: you know what? Yeah? I mean, can Jameis Winston You 540 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: want him to start playing numbers? Yeah? Just say he's 541 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: on the phone saying what you're trying to do. G 542 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 3: you know you're trying to he this is what I 543 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: do here. 544 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: But here so Rob, G and Rob the numbers you 545 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: gave me, nobody can you know argue with those? Here's 546 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: where I still think why you still get that shine? 547 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: To what you asked, Rob, He's still third and third 548 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: down conversion rate total offense, their seventh, fourth down conversion rate, 549 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: he's sixth. So I think the players that ultimately matter, 550 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, he still makes those and now if they 551 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: get in the posts, he's let's say they end up 552 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: getting a wild card. This is where he can be 553 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: keep that shine because now it's like he does it 554 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: again and he's an a SC championship game, We're gonna. 555 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 3: Be like, how did it happen again? 556 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 5: I just I don't see that because they haven't beaten 557 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 5: good teams this year. 558 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 3: That's that's. 559 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 5: Closed out that that's the difference this ship Now, yesterday 560 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 5: it was the only time they beat the team, and 561 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: and you gotta give him credit, they beat the Colts 562 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 5: at home. That was a big game. That was the 563 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 5: one game. But all the other losses are against good teams, 564 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 5: and all that wins are against teams that normally aren't that good. 565 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: All right. 566 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: I just think that's the point of your question about 567 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: the shine is somebody else has to take it from 568 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Like it's not anyone else's run yet, Like this isn't 569 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: the Josh Allen He hasn't gone to two Super Bowls yet, 570 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're like, it's not just. 571 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: Saying that shine. 572 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 4: I don't mean like like taking his perch or people 573 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 4: look at him. 574 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 5: I'm just saying I don't. I don't look at him 575 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 5: the same way when I watch the games, the aura 576 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 5: of him, like he was invincible. 577 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: He's always gonna make some play at the end. 578 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: I think I think it's fair that to die down 579 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: my last point, we'll again the same thing when we 580 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: get in the postseason. That will be the thing when 581 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: we get in the postseason. Rob because he ended up 582 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: getting back to the Super Bowl. You know what I mean? 583 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: After all, me, even me, I'm like, Yo, what's going 584 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: on with him? He looks off? He landed right back 585 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. 586 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 587 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 588 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 589 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: listen live. 590 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: Thanks Steve appreciated. 591 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: I couple Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a Magic City Monday. 592 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: And we are joined now by our guy TJ. A 593 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: Who'sman's Out, a former pro bowler co host of Up 594 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: on Game on Fox Sports Radio. 595 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: Hou'sh eighty four X? What up? TJ? Yo? 596 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 7: Yo? What Fellows? 597 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 3: How are you? 598 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 7: Oh? Man? I'm good? How are y'all? 599 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: Man? Good man? Feeling good? This is a Thanksgiving week, 600 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Holiday weeks fastly approaching. Uh. 601 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 5: I want to start here. So the Giants and Lions 602 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 5: that that game there, Jamis Winston. The Lions were lucky. 603 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 5: I thought it was the early Chris Smiths gift. How 604 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 5: surprised were you that the Lions were able to win 605 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 5: that game? I think the Giants helped even what is 606 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 5: it Malik Neighbors? 607 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: Did he did you see his Yeah? He deleted it? Yeah? 608 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: Did you see TJ? 609 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 7: No, I did not, But watching that game, I'll say this, 610 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 7: just run that's doing. 611 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: That's essentially what Malik was saying. 612 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 5: I found to hear it is sometimes I think, uh, 613 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 5: they be making us lose on purpose, because it's no way, bro, 614 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 5: you throw the ball instead of running it to make 615 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 5: them burn two timeouts, then you don't kick the field goal, 616 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 5: then they have to go down the field and score 617 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 5: football common sense. 618 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: Am I missing something? And then he deleted it, But 619 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: he's right on the money, TJ. You watch the. 620 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 7: Game, Yeah he was told to delete that. But what 621 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 7: he said is a true roof. But if you're the Giants, 622 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 7: why are you trying to win? Like, really, you want 623 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 7: a high draft pick? Now you're not going to the playoffs. 624 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 7: I'm assuming Mike Kafka wants to win so he can 625 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 7: remain the head coach. But it is baffling, man, Like 626 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 7: we as players, you put all this work and time 627 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 7: in and you're like, what are we doing? 628 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: Look at this? 629 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: You can still lose. 630 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: Okay, if you lose a game, that's fine, you play, 631 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: but come on there, anybody, you don't even have to 632 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: be a football coach, come. 633 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 7: On, because of those are mental mistakes. Those are mental mistakes? 634 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 7: Those are those are mental mistakes. And then you're gonna 635 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 7: go watch the film and the goh, you got to 636 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 7: do this better. Oh you gotta do this better. Oh no, no, 637 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 7: you just got to coach a little better. 638 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And well they did. 639 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: One thing they did do right was have Jameis Winston 640 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: who knew he was a tight end tj who knew 641 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: he was your fellow brother. And as a receiver, as 642 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: a pass catcher, what was that out there? Him them 643 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: drawing up place for him giving people the stiff arm. 644 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston is a delight to the NFL, But what 645 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: is what is. 646 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: It about him? 647 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: Me and Rob talk about the time that he just 648 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: can't be a starter, like you'll have big offensive days, 649 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: but then you're like, he's just not a starter. 650 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 7: I'll say this, Jami's trains out here with us. He's 651 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 7: seen and I've never played with him, but just from 652 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 7: watching him train and watching them with the teams he's 653 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 7: been on, he is the ultimate teammate. He's a guy 654 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 7: you want on your team. Now, the last two games 655 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 7: he started for the Giants, he ain't the reason they're losing. 656 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 7: He ain't making them He's not playing how he played 657 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 7: with the Bucks, and you might throw the four hundred, 658 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 7: but he's gonna give you four turnovers. He's not doing that, 659 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 7: and so maybe he's learned. But you're not gonna be 660 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 7: the quarterback. You're not the future of the Giants. That 661 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 7: that's Jackson Dartin. So maybe he gets an opportunity. But 662 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 7: if I'm a player, I want Jameis Whinston in the 663 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 7: locker room on my team. I just like his vibe. 664 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 5: See my only thing is and I hear you because 665 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 5: everything you see about him, even social media, he seemed 666 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 5: like a great guy and all that. 667 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: You know, crab legs aside, uh, I mean sometimes Ago, 668 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: sometimes they be hitting rob. You gotta do what you go, 669 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: get that crab what I'm gonna do and promise to 670 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: bowl of it, you know what, TJ. And ain't too 671 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: many people walking out with crab legs. I'm just saying, 672 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say what I want to say. It's 673 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 3: a certain all right. 674 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: But but my point though is a little bit and 675 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: then we'll get to shador Is is maybe maybe he's 676 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 4: not serious enough. I'm just and this is what I 677 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 4: said to Kelvin earlier, because the guy has talent. 678 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 5: He's a This guy was a baseball player too. He's 679 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 5: a talented athlete. I'm not even sitting here. He should 680 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: have been a starting quarterback for a team for a 681 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 5: long time because of his ability. 682 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: What's missing? There's something missing, TJ. 683 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 7: No, there there this one. There was something that I 684 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 7: think only in his crew. When you're the first pick 685 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 7: coming out of floor, say first pick, obviously the time 686 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 7: they bucks you can throw the ball. He can throw 687 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 7: a great actress. See the ball is gonna be caught 688 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 7: just a lot too many, too many times it's caught 689 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 7: by the defense rus And so he didn't really And 690 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 7: I don't know who was this quarterback coach and his 691 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 7: coordinator early on in Tampa, but it seemed to shift 692 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 7: a little bit when he went to New Orleans with 693 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 7: Sean Payton. It seemed to shift like he wasn't. Yeah, 694 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 7: he was turning the ball over, but not at the 695 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 7: rate that he turned it over in Tampa. And now 696 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 7: you see these two games with the Giants last year. 697 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 7: I believe with Cleveland kind of reverted back. 698 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: At times four touchdowns. 699 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 7: Look what he did with Jerry Judy, Look what he 700 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 7: did with Jerry Judy. And Jerry Judy made a Pro 701 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 7: Bowl because Jameis Winston was this quarterback and was giving 702 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 7: him an opportunity to make plays. I just feel like 703 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 7: early on, when you're a quarterback, that coaching matters so much. 704 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 7: You look at Baker, he goes with McVeigh in the rounds. 705 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 7: Different quarterback. You look at Sam Darnold, he gets with 706 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 7: Shannon hand and he gets a Kevin O'Connell. Different quarterback. 707 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 7: Coaching matters so much. In the National Football League. 708 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: TJ Hohos was out of our guests on the oct 709 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: couple Magic City Monday, Robin Kelvin, let's go to a 710 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders gets a win two hundred yards. Now the 711 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: name him the starter moving forward? Just your initial reaction 712 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: to how he played and then them calling him the starter. 713 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: At least as of now, there's. 714 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 7: Nothing else you can do but name him as a starter. 715 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 7: He's gonna play against a better team. But the Raiders, 716 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 7: in the National Raiders or NFL team with the NFL 717 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 7: caliber players, they're terrible. 718 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: They're terrible, TJ. 719 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 7: Are terrible, but they're in the NFL. Who's the great 720 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 7: Who's the best team in the AFC? 721 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: Real quick, the Patriots. 722 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 7: Oh yes, the Patriots. That Raiders team beat the best 723 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 7: team in the AFC. I don't care when it was they. 724 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: No one's saying that he didn't. You got to play 725 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: who's on the schedule. But I'm but it does matter 726 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: who you play TJ. And when evaluating people, that's all. 727 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 7: To win the game. They took him out a lot 728 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 7: in a wildcat when they got inside to five yard line. 729 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 7: That's I don't know why that is because they never 730 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 7: did it with Dylan Gabra. I have no idea, but 731 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 7: it worked for him. They won the game. I don't 732 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 7: care what you do when you win the game, coach, 733 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 7: you make great decision entire game. I have no problem 734 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 7: with it. I said when he was when we knew 735 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 7: he was gonna start, he needed to have some players 736 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 7: make uncommon plays for him. Harold Fanning made a couple 737 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 7: of uncommon plays. You get to catch a ball eight 738 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 7: yards short of the first down, break a few tackles, 739 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 7: that's an uncommon play. Dylan Sampson gets that screen. That's 740 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 7: an uncommon play. And when you're a rookie, that's what 741 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 7: you need. You need your playmakers to make plays for you, 742 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 7: and they did that, and so for Schador, great job. 743 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 7: Now you're playing a forty nine Ers team next week. 744 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 7: Can you keep it rolling? Because it's gonna be a 745 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 7: better team, better defense. It's gonna be interesting. I'm happy 746 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 7: for him, but it's going to get harder and harder 747 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 7: each week, no doubt. 748 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 5: Last thing on the Chiefs, I think they got their 749 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 5: season was saved. I mean, I don't know how the 750 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 5: Coats weren't able to to win that game. They had 751 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 5: him in a good spot. Chiefs come back eleven points. 752 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 5: But Patrick Mahomes again struggling offensively? Why are they struggling? 753 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 3: TJ. 754 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 5: He has one touchdown, three picks in his last three 755 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 5: games and the and the offense just the middle of 756 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 5: the road. 757 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well offense actually the top seven eight in a 758 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: lot of the offensive stats. 759 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they've just been struggling the last three weeks. 760 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 5: What's happened with their offense? 761 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 7: They can't consistently move the ball. They gave the ball 762 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 7: Kareem Hunt had thirty carries. Yeah, thirty carries for one 763 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 7: hundred and four yards. That's just over three yards for carries. 764 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 7: Ridiculous And so to me, that's Andy Reid saying he 765 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 7: doesn't trust the passing game. He doesn't trust that they 766 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 7: can get the job done. But we're gonna need you 767 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 7: when we need you. And they came through or she 768 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 7: Wright made some big plays. I felt like the Coats 769 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 7: like they just needed one or two plays in the 770 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 7: fourth quarter in the game. 771 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 8: How about how about you what we just talked about 772 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 8: earlier with the Giants TJ nine of their last twelve 773 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 8: plays were passing for Daniel Jones. 774 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 7: I'll say this. They weren't running the ball. Jonathan Spetner 775 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 7: could not run the ball effectively. But he's been the 776 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 7: guy you've relied on off seasons, so you say, okay, 777 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 7: the biggest game of the season, let's rely on him. 778 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 7: Let's go back to when Josh down goes in motion, 779 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 7: the Chiefs bring a blitz. He's why he catched that ball. 780 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 7: He might score. He's for sure getting the first down 781 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 7: that might ice the game. Daniel Jones made a bath throw. 782 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 5: And Daniel Jones. I'm believed in Daniel Jones all year. 783 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 5: I don't believe in him. Yesterday was another example for me. 784 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 5: I don't know where are you quickly on Daniel Jones. 785 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 5: And you know they beat a lot of bad teams 786 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 5: early on, he put up numbers. Has he turned the 787 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 5: corner or not? 788 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 7: When when your team is still leading the division, you 789 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 7: you had to have turned the corner. He he is 790 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 7: just going to have to play better when they need 791 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 7: him the most against the good teams, against the good 792 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 7: teams like that, that's the key. When we need you 793 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 7: to make that throw the Josh downs on third and four, 794 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 7: You got to make that throw. That ice is a 795 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 7: game when I need you to put that ball on 796 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 7: the belly of Michael Pittman when they cover zero, bitch 797 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 7: and he runs that slant. That's what I need and 798 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 7: we can't Ah, I miss that throw. I need you 799 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 7: to make the play when I needed because that's gonna 800 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 7: be the difference of winning and losing in the playoffs, 801 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 7: because you're gonna play nothing but the best of the best, no. 802 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 3: Doubt, no doubt. Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving to you and 803 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: your family, bud. 804 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 7: Man, Happy Thanksgiving to y'all as well. Man, y'all keep 805 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 7: up the great work fellas. 806 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 3: Make sure you get them greens and mac and cheese 807 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 3: on that play brother too. 808 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 7: Oh, you already know I'm about to be a fat boy. 809 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 7: I'm a game ten pounds this week. 810 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: All right, we'll shoot me too.