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Speaker 1: he even started a game for them. Then we got

427
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: him back. But this year, you know, with how Kromer's

428
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: done things, I think he's done a great job of

429
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, making him more versatile. And you've seen him

430
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: we've moved him in a guard and you first put

431
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: him there to see what, you know, can they handle

432
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: it mentally, and Bobby's done great handling that. And so

433
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: we look at Bobby as a guy, you know who

434
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: could play you know, up to four spots. You know,

435
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: if we need him and I said it earlier. Versatility

436
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: is big. You know, he's he's better at some spots

437
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: than the other. But um, I think Bobby's done done

438
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: a great job and um, like a lot of guys,

439
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: he's he's fighting to make this roster and we'll see

440
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: it like walking around you're at camp, like what is

441
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: what's realistic for him? Knowing how late in the season

442
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: his injury was last year, Yeah, it's Um, I think

443
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: it's realistic in the season, but I think it's I

444
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: think he's still That's why this one was an easier decision.

445
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: I think he's still He's gonna need some time. Um,

446
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, he had a little bit of a setback

447
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: with his and so it hasn't been perfect ever since

448
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: he had that initial surgery. So I think he would

449
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: be closer if he hadn't had that. But he still

450
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: has a chance to play this year. He's done great. Um,

451
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: he handled it. Well. That's that's tough when you're you

452
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: have a long injury and then you know you have

453
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: a little setback, you know, in your rehab process. But um,

454
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, I do think Ike has a chance to

455
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: help us this year. Mentioned the process of going back

456
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: through coldie hords, wanting to condemly what does that look like?

457
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: Where do you start with that? Say that again now

458
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: when you were talking about Cordy wanting to look back

459
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: and see differently, just evaluating that. Where did you started?

460
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: What is that process? La from your ID? Yeah, I

461
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: mean I think we go back to was there anything

462
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: when you draft a player? Was there any did you

463
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: did you miss anything on the evaluation? Did you miss

464
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: on anything on the skill set? And did you miss

465
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,239
Speaker 1: anything on the intangibles, the character of the makeup all

466
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: that stuff? Um? And then you know part of Cody's things,

467
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: he had some durability, things that you can't help. Like

468
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: he played, he played through some things. Um. And you

469
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: know he's a tough kid, like he played, and that's

470
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: hard sometimes, especially playing O line. You know, his elbow

471
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: was bothering him. You know, he had he said, knee,

472
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: had shoulder. You know, he's had multiple major surgeries. This

473
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: was the first offseason where he hasn't had you know,

474
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: a big surgery, And so I was That's why I

475
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: was hopeful that you know, he would be here and

476
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: play really well and make it a tough decision. But

477
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things to look at.

478
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: And again I would put most of the blame of

479
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: this on me, not on not on anybody else. Look

480
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: at back end of the roster and made these final decisions.

481
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: How much weight do you put on guys who maybe

482
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: you only your special team's contributors versus guys who might

483
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: be able to contribute more in their position groups offensively, defensive. Yeah,

484
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, when you get past your frontline starters, those

485
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: guys that are we look at us, these guys are

486
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: we expect him to start every week. You know, if

487
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: you're not starting, you need to be good on special

488
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: teams and if it's if it's close, we're going to

489
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: error towards a guy who's you know, a dominant three

490
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: or four you know phase special team players. So we've

491
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: stressed that all the way back in June to the

492
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: guys um, whether it's young guys coming in or guys

493
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: that have been career backups fighting to make this team,

494
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: you know, especially if you're coming from another club, like

495
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's got their their differences, but Sean and

496
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: I are very much in line that we want to

497
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: be good you know, on fourth down and and and

498
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: all the phases. Of the team. So, um, everyone knows

499
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: we've laid it out there that that will be a

500
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: big part of Again, if you're not a frontline starter

501
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: of making this final fifty three, Tommy Doyle's injury long term,

502
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: he had to have to consider him an I or anything. No,

503
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Um, you know, you can always

504
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: have setbacks, but I think he's progressing well, he's he's

505
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: off that that Wheelee mobile or whatever he was on, um,

506
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: which was positive, So very whole full to get Tommy

507
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: back soon. How do you feel about your death? A

508
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: lot of the offensive line, and I'm sure yeah, I

509
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: mean I like uh, I like the guys. I think

510
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: we got a good mix in there of um some

511
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: vets who have done it. We've got, you know, I

512
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: can't remember the number. We got quite a few guys

513
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: that are thirty and over. And people might say, well,

514
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: that's old, but um, it's also you've got to be really,

515
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: really smart and have a great feel for playing a line.

516
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at old lines across

517
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: the league, it's not always the group that has all

518
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: the first and second rounders. A lot of guys have

519
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: been later or undrafted and I'm just they've they've always

520
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: had that chip. They're smart, they always know where their

521
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: help is. And you know, I think we've got a

522
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: lot of different pieces there, Joe, And again we've we've

523
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: tried to make the group as versatile as possible and

524
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: and um, you know it, as I say, with some

525
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: of the other positions, it's going to be down to

526
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: the end on you know, a how many do we

527
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: keep and how many? Um do we think we can

528
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: get to practice one? With Greg? Well, we'll see, Uh,

529
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: we'll see where he's at. He's um got his ankle,

530
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: so um, we'll see how he progresses. And and you know,

531
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think we're ready to rule him

532
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: out of the game. Yeah, it's Jordan's still on track

533
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: health wise for week one and then where's his contract

534
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: situation and does conversations is that still a possibility or

535
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: wear things with him? Um, Jordan is is rehabbing. Well,

536
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: we're just trying to um, since it's the preseason, trying

537
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: to be smart with him and not have a setback.

538
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: You know, once you start in the season, slowly your

539
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: body starts. You know, you're just getting chips and you're

540
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: trying to get yourself as as good as you can.

541
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: So we're trying to start him in one hundred percent,

542
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, not below that, and so we're probably being

543
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: a little more cautious than we would if it was

544
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: regular season. I think he'd see Jordan, um, you know,

545
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: he's always played through stuff. I think he'd seen him

546
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: fighting through that. It's more I think us just trying

547
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: to be smart with him and then you know, nothing new, um,

548
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: you know with with contract stuff. Think what he did

549
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: when I think what he did, how he did her more, um,

550
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 1: and how did that kind of go into Yeah, I think, Um,

551
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: I think Cody probably started a little slow, but I

552
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: think he was trending in the right direction. And I think,

553
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, the real test we know coming games and

554
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: I thought, um, I thought his performance Week one against

555
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: Andy was solid, and I thought on Saturday, um, he

556
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: was one of our best. Like I thought, he really

557
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: he really showed what he can do. Um. You know,

558
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: but ultimately we were, um, he wasn't going to start

559
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: for us. You know, we had kind of said this

560
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: is the group we're rolling with. That decision was made.

561
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: You know, you want to try and get that group gelling.

562
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: We were already kind of behind that with Roger's injury,

563
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: and then you know Spencer is still working his way back.

564
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: But even you know with Quaz, they're just trying to

565
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: get that group to gel. It's so important and you

566
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: know that that rams games getting closer and closer, So

567
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: you kind of got to make a decision of this

568
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: is who we're going to roll with and and but

569
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: that's why I was trying to be patient before we

570
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: did anything with him, to give him every chance to

571
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: win that starting job. I believe you said before earlier

572
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: in camp that to get down to your fifty three

573
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: you might have to make a move cap wise just

574
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: forward satisfy that to the degree you would hope here

575
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do something probably in

576
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 1: this week to get that. It helps a little bit,

577
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't get us everything we need. Um, So yeah,

578
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna do a restructure this week to so

579
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: that we can give a little bit of padding for

580
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: the replacement calls for the season. Ye all right, thank you.

581
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: All right, that's GM Brandon being addressing the media today.

582
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. When we come back,

583
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: Steve and I will kind of run down the list

584
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: of high points from that, and we'll also hear from

585
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey. It's all coming your way next

586
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Life, presented by Kalid to Health.

587
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

588
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: here with you and Steve, we have to quickly discuss

589
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: what Brandon being addressed. I think the most important part

590
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: was Tredevious White. He said, essentially, they're trying to run

591
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: out the clock before making a decision on reserve pup

592
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: for Tradevious White, which if he has given that designation,

593
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: it means he is off the table for the first

594
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: four games of the season. He said, We truly don't

595
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: know where he's at. He's made great progress, but they

596
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: he did not have the surgery performed by a Bill's

597
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: team physician, and so there seems to be a little

598
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: bit of I don't want to say disconnect, that's probably

599
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: too strong a word, but there seems to be some

600
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: uncertainty in terms of what is truly the definition of

601
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: he is game ready or medically cleared. Now we know

602
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: that this athletic training staff and this medical staff airs

603
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: on the side of caution with every player and for

604
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: the most part, it has been a successful approach. But

605
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: I think what was said today, even though nothing definitive

606
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: was laid down, I don't know about your impression, Steve,

607
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: but I think week one is unlikely at this say this,

608
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: the way that Kyrie and Christian Benford and Dane Jackson

609
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: and you know your name it cam Lewis, the rest

610
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: of the Aaron Johnson um, the way that they have played,

611
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: I think the the urgency to get Trey back has

612
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: been eased a little bit. Uh. Certainly they'd love to

613
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: have him out there, and they're better with him at

614
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: one hundred percent than they are without him, no question.

615
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: But I don't think that they're thinking, oh my gosh,

616
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: if he's not in there, we're gonna we're gonna get

617
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: our heads handed to us. I don't think they believe that.

618
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: So they might have said, you know what, let's get

619
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: him one hundred percent. Let's not let's not rush the timeline.

620
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: Let's get him one hundred percent. And that doesn't mean

621
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: that they're automatically gonna put him on a pup. But

622
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: remember when they first came here, every decision they made,

623
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: whether it had to do with the roster or not,

624
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: they waited until the deadline to do it. They're gonna

625
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: do that with this, and not whether it means they're

626
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: not gonna put him on pup or it does. They're

627
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: gonna wait until they have to say but for they

628
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: say it. And I'm not saying that you know that

629
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: they are willing to go into the regular season without him,

630
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: even if he's close, you know, to being ready. Um,

631
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: but I do know that they're You've they've got to

632
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: be really pleased with Dane Jackson, Elam, Benford, all these guys.

633
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Tarn Johnson as we're still gonna have the potential of

634
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: two rookies going into battle well in some pretty significant game.

635
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: Jackson's there, He's no rookie, So no, he's not. I'm

636
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: talking about Benford and Elam specific right, Oh I see yeah, yeah,

637
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: whether they platoon or whether it's one or the one

638
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: or the other. Either way. Um, I'm just saying I

639
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they're wringing their hands over to Davis.

640
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: They know he's gonna come back, and they know he's

641
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: gonna come back and play extremely well, and whenever that is,

642
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: they feel like they're gonna be fine until he gets back.

643
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: The other bit of news. There nothing new on the

644
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: Poyer negotiation front, per Brandon b He also said that

645
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: player is still working back from that hyper extended elbow.

646
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: They don't see any need to rush it right now.

647
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: They want to make sure he's one hundred percent right

648
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: before putting him back on the practice field. So that's

649
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: where that is at. We want to turn now to

650
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: some of the comments made by offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey,

651
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: who also addressed the media prior to practice today. Steve

652
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: and I will comment on the other side of that.

653
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Here is coach Dorsey. So, Josh obviously was pretty great

654
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: and designed runs last year. In mind, he's a pretty

655
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: good weapon. Do you have in your mind? Is there

656
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: a limit there? Do you do you want to be

657
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: more selective than last year on that? What is your attitude?

658
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Like all of the other game playing that we do,

659
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be based off of decision we make

660
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: that week on on kind of well what we need

661
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: in order to help us win a football game. So

662
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the biggest determining factor for

663
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: us as a obviously, just kind of that that mindset

664
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: and and that philosophy and then making sure we're putting

665
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: ourselves and uh and Josh in the best position to

666
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: have success for our team. He's also it wasn't you know.

667
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean you might argue he was your best short

668
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: yardage runner last year. Do you have you feel confident

669
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: that you have other actions besides him that are good

670
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: in short yardage? Yeah? I do. I do. I think

671
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: we've got uh, Um, we've got a really good group

672
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: of running backs back there that I think we feel

673
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: comfortable hand to the ball to any of them. Um.

674
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: And then I think the um, uh, the ability of

675
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: our guys up front to hopefully get some movement up

676
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: front and create lanes for those guys is going to

677
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: be key. And um, you know, I think uh having

678
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: having an entire arsenal at your disposal, whether it's running back, Josh,

679
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it may be, Um, run past whatever,

680
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: maybe you know is important on you know, whether it's

681
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: short yards, goal line, normal situations, field, red zone, whatever

682
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: it may be. Continuing d you're you know, the running banks,

683
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: all three of them, Data and Moth Cook You've all

684
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: look pretty good, you know what you think of how

685
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: they've looked, and you have a challenge like splitting up

686
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: those raps. How is that going to work. You know,

687
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: it's definitely a challenge. I mean, it's a good problem

688
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: to have when you when you've got guys who have

689
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: performed like they have. It's obviously those three guys you mentioned,

690
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: but but really that entire room, you know, when you

691
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, Duke Johnson and blacks

692
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: Year and all those guys. So, I mean, they've all

693
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: done a great job, and it's been a really good

694
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: competition between that that entire room for um, playing time,

695
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: roster spots, whatever it may be. So I'm excited about it,

696
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: and I feel very comfortable with whoever's in the game

697
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: to really operate what we need. And um, the good

698
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: part about all those guys is, you know you're not

699
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: hamstrained into just doing one thing. Hey, they can only

700
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: run outside, they can only an inside. All those guys

701
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: can do a multitude of different things. Silly cook's let's

702
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: pickup how do you think as a rookie? Obviously that's

703
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: always a learning curve. Yeah, you know, how do you

704
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: done a nice job? He's done a nice job. He's

705
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: really kind of come in and done a great job.

706
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: Learning the system, learning our offense, um, you know, learning

707
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of it, whether it's the run game,

708
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: protection game, pass game, and uh and gone out and

709
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: executed and at a high level and excited about the

710
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: direction he's going. I got here. We're talking to you

711
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: about getting with Aaron and Joe and talking about you know,

712
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: kind of seeing up right and you know, you see song.

713
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: We're here a lot of your catual the offensive line

714
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: going in place and guard and where still outport for you?

715
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: How has that kind of plays out out? What are

716
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: the results so far of all the tagering that you

717
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: guys kind of Yeah, and I think a lot of

718
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: that tiger has just been out Nessteve through you know,

719
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: guys getting nicked up and those types of things. So UM,

720
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: it's been It's been really beneficial for our depth and

721
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: those guys development because because a lot of those guys

722
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: were able to work against UM in that first group

723
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: and against you know, one defensive lineman and and that

724
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: uh and those guys, so that's really kind of helped

725
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: their development to create a really good UM I would

726
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: feel like depth for us through that experience, So uh,

727
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: that's been important. But also I think at the same time,

728
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: creating coninuity of the guys up front and getting all

729
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: those guys back so that they could play together, get

730
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: a feel for each other. Um, so we could really

731
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: get rolling once the season rolls around. Is is important too.

732
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: You reached a final decision on your game day location

733
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: where you had asked coach yesterday. I kind of punted

734
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: to you and said, whatever you're comfortable with. No, Yeah,

735
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 1: obviously I've been up in the box the first two games,

736
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: and We're gonna look at this week and um, you know,

737
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: probably probably have a final decision on it, you know, uh,

738
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: hopefully this week and if not, after this game. So

739
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable with wherever wherever that decision is is.

740
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you know, Um, one,

741
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: I feel I'm in a good spot to be able

742
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: to call a game. And two, uh, my communication with

743
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: Josh and the rest of the guys is is uh

744
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: is clean. So that's been That's been the important part

745
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: about working in the box and working out of the box,

746
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, uh the past few games. Because I've been

747
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: down the field, I know what that's gonna be like.

748
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: So um, we'll see kind of uh, you know, if

749
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: if this game changes anything. Um, but right now I

750
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with with whichever one it's going to be.

751
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: There's Sean mcdermick gave a heavy fine for Anny coaches

752
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: that get pendally this season, and he says it's probably

753
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: a good thing to keep you in the boxes. Yeah,

754
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: well I'm not. Uh I'd like to think I'm not

755
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: too much of a psychopath, Like I feel like I'm

756
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: I'm being made out to be something. But no, I mean, look,

757
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's a it's a passionate game, and I think,

758
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: uh um, you know, I mean, it's it's ball, it's football,

759
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, so, I again, it's just going

760
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: to be one of those things. I want to do

761
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: what's best for the team and what's best for me

762
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: calling it. But it probably wouldn't hurt to be up

763
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: in the box in that regard. Did you feel different

764
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: after doing it once and then you know, ahead in

765
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: the first game, the preseason game, maybe more comfortable than

766
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: what you thought it might have been, like with reception

767
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: would have been and then getting to the second week

768
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: that that helped you a little bit. Basically, Well, I

769
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: think the thing that helped a lot is like that

770
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: first game, it wasn't you know, it wasn't perfect. We

771
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: had the turnovers, we weren't quite getting in a rhythm

772
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: that necessarily throughout the game, so just kind of battling

773
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: through that from the box, you know, and having that

774
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: feeling there, and then obviously last week having a little

775
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: bit more success and be able to move the ball

776
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: and then having that feeling up there, you know, it

777
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: was it was really good for me to kind of

778
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: simulate those two different things. And then some of the

779
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: different scenarios, whether it was a two minute drill or

780
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: a backed up situation, whatever it might be, those different

781
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: scenarios that popped up where you kind of got to

782
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: handle them from the box as a play caller, and

783
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: that communication, I think was was was really good for me,

784
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, so got a got a

785
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: much better feel for how that would be just kind of, hey,

786
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, how to get us back in a rhythm,

787
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 1: how to kind of give us back rolling and feel

788
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to get offensively to convert first downs and drive

789
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: and score points when things aren't going great and then

790
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: when things are going well. So that that was a

791
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: good experience for me to be up in the box

792
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: and experience that. All right. That's offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey

793
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: addressing the media prior to practice today, said he'll have

794
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: a decision on where his game day location will be

795
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: after this final preseason game. Plenty more to discuss for

796
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: Steve and I when we return here on One Bill's

797
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799
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807
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: but it's been a while. Yeah, I've been a little

808
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: bit for me to here. Yeah, I've never been to

809
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: it here. I've been to it when it was in

810
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: Bison Field, Yeah, downtown, I have been to that. Yeah.

811
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: It's a good time. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a lot

812
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: of fun. It it used to be. You can try

813
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,279
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814
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: a that's a beauty of it you get because everybody's

815
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: got you know, hot medium, hot, medium, mild. This is

816
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: the gourmet festival, right, This is the dry Cajun rub

817
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: and the yes, it's very good, pineapple wings. He butter barbecue,

818
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: the yes, the Caesar Dijon ketchup. Oh yeah, but it

819
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: is good. It is, it is good, and it's you know,

820
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: it's nice to be out and about. Oh yeah. Plus

821
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: it's in the stadium, so it's sure get a chance

822
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: to get down on the field. In reviewing the comments

823
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: from Brandon Being and from coach Dorsey, as we mentioned

824
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: coach Dorsey's gonna make a decision on his game day

825
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: location upstairs or down after this last preseason game. He

826
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: did explain that the reason he's been upstairs the whole

827
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: time Blue and Red practice and each of the first

828
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: two preseason games was to gain a little bit more

829
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: experience up there. Since the majority of his coaching career

830
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: he has spent on the sideline on game days, so

831
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Where he decides to be will be interesting.

832
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: We've heard more than one player say he's got to

833
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: be upstairs because he gets really sore when he when

834
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: there's a bad call against his unit or something happens

835
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: and he gets all ticked off and hyper competitive and

836
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: they're like, we gotta get him upstairs. Game Davis said it,

837
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: Josh joked about it yesterday. So you're here Ken Dorsey

838
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: today say I feel like I'm being portrayeds some kind.

839
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a psychopath, right, I say that was? Hey,

840
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, we saw it at practice. Yeah, because coach

841
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: McDermott purposely throws adversity at the coordinators during the call

842
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: a periods so they can make adjustments to adversity on

843
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: game days. And so he might throw him a curveball

844
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: and say, oh, yeah, fifteen yard penalty against the offense.

845
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: You're now in first and twenty you know, or twenty

846
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: five whatever, and now you got to adjust what your

847
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: play call would have been. Yeah, he tries. McDermott said,

848
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: he tries to get these guys to every corner of

849
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: their call sheet during those call it periods, so he'll

850
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: change it on the spur of the moment do that.

851
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: And Dorsey was screaming at like, what you tell me

852
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: what the down a distance is? What's the situation should? Right?

853
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's that. I didn't think it was insightful.

854
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: In the questioning we heard from just a minute ago

855
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: that he said, it's really it was really a nice

856
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: preseason the first two games because the first game they

857
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: were turning it over, they were getting penalties, all kinds

858
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: of diversity they were they were getting, you know, they

859
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: couldn't even get out of their own way in that

860
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: first game, and he had to handle it from the booth.

861
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: He had to like, okay, well, all right this, you know,

862
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: had to try and find a rhythm or try find it,

863
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: rediscover a rhythm, to rediscover a rhythm. And then same

864
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: thing on the converse side when they're playing Denver. Nothing

865
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: could have been better. I mean, everything is clicking on

866
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: all cylinders. They had to conjure up a way to

867
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: punt at the end of the game. I mean, good grief.

868
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: It's like fourth and inches at midfield and they're like,

869
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna punt it. Like they don't, They're not gonna

870
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: do that. But that's how good it was going. So

871
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: he had both extremes sitting up in the booth realizing

872
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: how it was going to happen and what it is.

873
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: It's not so much about you sitting up there and

874
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: seeing everything. It's about communicating. What can you get Josh

875
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: on the phone on the sidelines between series, like Hey,

876
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: what are you saying? Or in this case, it would

877
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: have been keen him on the sidelines, what do you

878
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: think and what do you see? In how to feel,

879
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm thinking, Here's what I'm seeing, And making

880
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: sure that those guys on the sideline who are struggling

881
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: just like you are in the booth, you give him

882
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: some communication to start giving him a plan so they

883
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: can get their mind around and start playing better. I

884
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: thought that was insightful of him to know that that's

885
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: what you kind of got to go through in the

886
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: booth to make sure you're ready for what happens in

887
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: the regular season. Yeah. One other housekeeping note, Tommy Doyle's

888
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: foot injury not considered a long term thing, so he

889
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: is expected to be back soon. And then another bit

890
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: of good news, Dawson Knox was scheduled to rejoin the

891
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: team and practice today. He is in fact doing that.

892
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox back with the team after a very difficult

893
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: weekend after the loss of his younger brother. So back

894
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: with the team and you have to believe that his

895
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: teammates literally put their arms around him when he came

896
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: back today. So good to see him back in the fold,

897
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: and hopefully each day gets a little easier for him

898
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: and his family. We have to take a break here.

899
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: When we come back, we will discuss with you more

900
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: of these topics laid out by the coaches and Brandon

901
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: being We also want to know what is your bold

902
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: roster prediction for the Bills. We're getting pretty closed to

903
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster time. It's a week from today.

904
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: What is your bold roster prediction? Let us know at

905
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: eight o three five fifty one eight eight five fifty

906
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: two five fifty or on the tweet sheet at one

907
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: Bills Live. We're back in a few Stay tuned at

908
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

909
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

910
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: player for you state Steve a blimp. We're not even

911
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: in the strated fere of normalcy. Our number two here

912
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. The

913
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: Bill's roster is down to the required eighty after they

914
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: traded Cody Forward yesterday and put Ike Butcker on the

915
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: reserve pup list today. That gets them down to the

916
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: required eighty and then from here it's getting down to

917
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: fifty three a week from today at four pm. With

918
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: that in mind, what is your bold roster move for

919
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: the Bills? Eight oh three oh five fifty one, eight

920
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty the number to get

921
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: on board. Otherwise you can hit us up on the

922
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: tweet sheet at one Bills Live. And let's go to

923
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet right now, Steve, Right now, we're gonna

924
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: do it. Brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

925
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Joshua leads

926
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: us off with the following. Tyler Matakavich is either cut

927
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: or traded. That's his bold roster move, all right. He's

928
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: primarily a special teams player. Cost three and a quarter

929
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: million against the cap, and the linebackers from the twenty

930
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: twenty two draft class have been playing well. The savings

931
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: have to start somewhere. The money, the money is the

932
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: factor right now, Steve. It is if it's going to

933
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: play a role potentially in some roster decisions. Now, we

934
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: heard Brandon being say today he's got to do a

935
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: contract restructure this week. Let's try to get the room

936
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: needed to get just to get under the cap. They're

937
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: not gonna cut a team captain from a year ago.

938
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be surprising. I think it

939
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: does make some logical sense, but only and only if

940
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: Specter and Bernard can play teams, and they had and

941
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: Bernard was on all four special teams units over the weekend,

942
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: so you know they are examining that. They're evaluating him

943
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: from a special team's perspective, which you would expect he

944
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: was the last pick in their draft class. Yeah, it's

945
00:51:54,920 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: got to be. He's got to But yeah, logically makes sense,

946
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: no question about it. But I don't know that they'll

947
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: do that to one of the guys that was a

948
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: team captain for them, Pro Bowl nominee for them. And well,

949
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: we know special teams are enormously important to coach mcdermom,

950
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: particularly at this point of the roster. And I think

951
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: here's another thing we have to consider too. Coach Smiley

952
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: is a first year special teams coordinator. You know, he

953
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: wants to prove himself in year one in this role.

954
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: I know he's been here for five years, but this

955
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: is the first time he's in the captain's chair running

956
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: special teams. I gotta believe he wants to keep as

957
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: many Special Teams veterans as he can, don't you. I mean,

958
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: not that he has the final say on that, but

959
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: you know he's going to be stumping for vets on

960
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: special teams because he wants that unit air tight. Right. Yeah,

961
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 1: it does make some sense. But you're right, there's gonna

962
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: be some guys fighting for Matakevich to make the team,

963
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: most notably Matt Smiley. I see, I see the logic

964
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, no question because of the money right

965
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: ray on the tweet sheet going down that special team's

966
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: path as well, he said this isn't really that bold,

967
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: but I think Taiwan Jones could be among the final cuts. Also,

968
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: he believes another veteran gets traded. Trading is an interesting

969
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: scenario that he brings up. It is a way to

970
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: alleviate a cap issue. If you feel you need to

971
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: clear more space, you get something in return. The problem

972
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: is when you get something in return. The problem is this,

973
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: though all every team in the NFL's right in the

974
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: same spot, or at least all the teams in the

975
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: top ten, top five with playoff aspirations, with a roster

976
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: that they're ready to go to the regular season with

977
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: all of those teams are going to be in the

978
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: same boat. So unless you've got somebody another team, one

979
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: of the let the lower down teams like a bottom

980
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: ten teams really covet There's nobody's gonna trade you anything

981
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: for him because they's gonna wait for you to cut

982
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, they'll believe you're gonna cut the guy

983
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: if you know, and or they'll wait and maybe they

984
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: don't get this guy, they'll get another one just like him,

985
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: a comparable thing. Because the market's going to be flooded

986
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: with quality players, so it's hard to get this stuff done.

987
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: You got to tip your hat to being getting a

988
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: fifth for Cody Ford. I don't know he was a

989
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: top fifty pick, top thirty five pick, but I'm you know,

990
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: that's a team that it's exactly an illustration of exactly

991
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Arizona coveted Cody Ford and three

992
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: other teams called inquiring how thin offensive lines are around

993
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: the league. So I don't think it's going to be

994
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: that thin form running backs or something like that. The

995
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: market's going to be flooded with players, so it's hard

996
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: to start thinking about trading guys right before the final

997
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: cutdown because the market's going to be flooded with really

998
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: good players anyway, and nobody wants to give up guys.

999
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah of draft picks or draft capital. Right jacket on

1000
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet says, my bold prediction is the Bills

1001
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: will keep ten defensive alignment and ten dbs, not including White.

1002
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: He believes he will be on pup and only five linebackers.

1003
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: Bryant will be a fifth defensive tackle, Brandon Bryan's had

1004
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: a good preseason. Epinessa and Lawson will be the fourth

1005
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: and fifth defensive ends barring a trade, and both Lewis

1006
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: and Benford will be here as the fifth and sixth cornerbacks.

1007
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Same four safeties will be here. There's a lot to

1008
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: unpack there, Steve. Let's begin with the breakdown. Ten defensive linemen,

1009
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: ten dbs and only five linebackers. That is a scenario

1010
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: we actually surfaced yesterday on the show. It's too many

1011
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: defensive players, twenty five. You're not going to get twenty

1012
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: five defensive guys on the roster. And the thing that

1013
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: people forget is the three specialists that have to be

1014
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks it's going to be twenty five offensive and

1015
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: twenty five defensive and three specialists. It's not why not

1016
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: explain that defense Around the league, defensive rosters go about

1017
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: twenty two twenty three deep. Those last couple of three

1018
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: spots are always on the other side of the football.

1019
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: Is there a reason that that tends to be the trend?

1020
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: Spec you know, skill players matchups, they want they want

1021
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: an extra tight end, they want a full back, they

1022
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: want to, you know, an extra wide receiver. That gives

1023
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: you you know, that gives you an extra wide out,

1024
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: It gives you an extra and this is on the roster,

1025
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: and that doesn't and let's remember a bunch of these

1026
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: guy handful are going to be inactive every week, so

1027
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: usually your defensive roster does not go to twenty five,

1028
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: which just the way it is. So it'll probably be

1029
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: you got a chance to go nine d d lineman,

1030
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: nine dbs or even ten ten bbs and then go

1031
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: five linebackers. But that puts twenty four. That even that's

1032
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: a little fat, all right, so we'll see, um it

1033
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: could I mean, yeah, twenty five and twenty five, okay,

1034
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: but you know that's rough. That means you get six

1035
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: wide outs. Maybe all right, let's talk about this. Brandon

1036
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: Bryant as a fifth defensive tackle, so that would mean

1037
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: if you're only keeping nine, that means you'd only keep

1038
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: four ends. I don't know if that's going to be

1039
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: the case. It was interesting that Brandon Bryant was moved

1040
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: up and down the line last week, plead a little

1041
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: end if I remember right, And Coach Frasier had some

1042
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: glowing remarks for Brandon Bryant today, said he's really advanced

1043
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: the mental side of his game, knowing down in distant

1044
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: situations and how to play them. So it's very clear

1045
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 1: to me that Leslie Frasier is going to be rooting

1046
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: for Brandon Brant, but he is in a very deep

1047
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: pool of talent there, ed Oliver Day, Kwon Jones, Tim Settle,

1048
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. Brandon Bryant would be fifth in that pecking

1049
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: order no matter which way you slice it, and I

1050
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: don't know if there's room for him there you think

1051
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: about it, that's the same thing they've got an end.

1052
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: They've got Von Miller, aj Epenessa Shack Lawson, Greg Russo

1053
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: and Boogie Basham. That's five. You keep five pass rushes

1054
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: and none of those five, and none of those guys. Yeah,

1055
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: none of those guys moved down inside, right, Well, no

1056
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 1: Shack does on passing downs, Well, I'm passing downs. Yeah, fine,

1057
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, so riddle me this, Steve. If you're keeping

1058
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: nine defensive lineman, where do you keep the extra? Do

1059
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: you keep the fifth at a pass rushing position or

1060
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: do you keep the fifth at a defensive tackle like

1061
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: you said if yeah, and if you listen, if you're

1062
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: keeping ten, well, if you're keeping nine, where does your

1063
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: preference lie five ends and four tackles or five tackles

1064
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: and four ends? Which which way you're leaning? I don't

1065
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: know Brandon Bryant versus what Shack Lawson. It's a tough call.

1066
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 1: I think pass rushers are harder to find than interior players. Yeah,

1067
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: so I would lean towards the pass rusher. That's just me. Yeah,

1068
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: and I'm not even factor in and who we're dealing with.

1069
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna put my glove on the practice squad. You

1070
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: might have to put Brandon Bryant on the practice squad

1071
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: and he may not stay there. Yeah, Brandon Bryant will

1072
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: be gone in a heartbeat. Elion Ku might might be

1073
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: that guy. I think Elion Ku you can keep on

1074
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: the practice squad and not worry about losing it. I

1075
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: don't know if you can say that about Brandon Bryant

1076
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: with the preseason tape that he's put out there, right,

1077
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: that's the issue. That's an interesting that's the interesting call,

1078
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: because you know, all these guys can play at the

1079
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: highest these guys can play in the NFL, and they're

1080
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: gonna play this year in the NFL. So let's all right.

1081
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: So now let's address corner. Under the assumption that let's

1082
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: go on Jack's assumption that Tradevious White is on reserve pup.

1083
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: That opens up another spot at the corner position where

1084
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: I think we can agree. Dane Jackson, Tarn Johnson, Kayer

1085
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: Elam are locks. So rand Neil probably is as well,

1086
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: after signing the big contract to play special team. So

1087
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: that's four corners, and now you have Cam Lewis, Christian

1088
00:59:54,840 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: Benford and Nick McLeod. Are you keeping five corners means

1089
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: you're only keeping one of those three I think you're keeping.

1090
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: Are you're keeping two of those three? I think you're

1091
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: keeping six corners with one of those corners being get

1092
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: to the mic by friendless. I think you're picking taking

1093
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: six corners and one of them's cam Lewis. Okay, so

1094
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: you're going six corners there, and yeah, because cam Lewis

1095
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: will be a fifth safety and you keep the four safeties.

1096
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Interesting that he only recently started lining up at safety

1097
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: in this last preseason game. I mean, he hadn't lined

1098
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: up at safety in a game ever before. He wasn't

1099
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: at safety and training camp out at Saint John Fisher.

1100
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: This is a recent move to safety. What is the

1101
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: angle the defensive coaching staff is playing there with cam Lewis.

1102
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: Tres Ley Fraser was asked about it today. He said

1103
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: he wanted to expose him to as much as possible

1104
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: to give him as good a chance as possible to

1105
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: make the roster. How do you read it, though, that

1106
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: could just be a coach. No, I think that's I

1107
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: think that's right. I think they're trying to keep him.

1108
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: I think they think he's got I think that elevates

1109
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: him higher than some of these other guys. When they

1110
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: start moving him around, that elevates his status on the roster.

1111
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Doesn't value, but it makes him more valuable because he's

1112
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 1: athletic enough, smart enough and committed enough to get good

1113
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: enough at all those spots to be valuable if they

1114
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: need him to get out of a game. I believe

1115
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: it's a two man decision right now. Because I believe

1116
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: right now, let's assume under this hypothetical that Trudevious is

1117
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: on reserve pup Terren Johnson, Kaye Elam, Dane Jackson, Seran Neil,

1118
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: and Christian Benford are on the roster. That's five corners.

1119
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: I think they're running cam Lewis at safety and all

1120
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: the special teams units because it's a two man competition.

1121
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: They want to know who's the better man, who's the

1122
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: more versatile players that Nick McLeod or Cam Lewis. I

1123
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: think it's down to those two guys. Wouldn't you say yes,

1124
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: I would, and that that means you know, yeah, that

1125
01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: means it's hide poorer Jaquan Johnson, Tomar Hamlin. Those guys

1126
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: are on at safety, and if Lewis can prove himself

1127
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: as capable as Nick McLeod at the safety position, I

1128
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: think he wins the job because he can also play

1129
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: nickel and outside. We have not really seen McLeod at

1130
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: nickel all that much. He becomes the Ryan Bates of

1131
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: the secondary. He can get back up all five spots,

1132
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: and that's how I think he would make the roster.

1133
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: And then after Tradevius comes back, you figure it out

1134
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: and who knows by then you may have an injury anyway,

1135
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: right or you can yeah, exactly, and then that affords

1136
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: you the opportunity. Now you're still keeping four safeties. Though

1137
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: they like DeMar Hamlin and they liked Jikwan Johnson. Yeah,

1138
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: these are And it's funny we're sitting here agonizing over this.

1139
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin Jikwon Johnson aren't going to see the field

1140
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: so well healthy. Yeah, we don't even really sit here

1141
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: and sweat buckets over guys that are basically going to

1142
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: play special teams and contributing somehow. But if you're the

1143
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: GM and you're Brandon Bean, you can't just think about

1144
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: this year. You have to think beyond this year. And

1145
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: what Jikwan Johnson has put on preseason tape has been

1146
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: nothing short of impressive. And so with that in mind,

1147
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: m hmm, Ruan's a star. He's in the last year

1148
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: of his rookie deal, right, I mean, let's not forget that. Yeah,

1149
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose him. Are they gonna lose him? After

1150
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: the season if they If if things go on unchecked, well,

1151
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna hit the market and he's gonna want to

1152
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: be a starter somewhere and somebody will be happy to

1153
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: pay absolutely and he'll and he's not gonna make um.

1154
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: You may have to be preemptive there if you want

1155
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: to keep him that badly. Yeah, he's not gonna make

1156
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: top of the end money, but he's gonna make you'll

1157
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: make good money. Make he's gonna make eight figures. He's

1158
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna make you know, ten million bucks? Oh you think

1159
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: over well all told? Yeah, oh, you mean total value

1160
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: of the contractor I'll bet he can make all bet

1161
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: he can sign a three year, twenty five million dollar contract. Yes, yes,

1162
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: I think that's possible. He'll find a Matt Milano deal,

1163
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: maybe even more because he's playing a premier position. Okay,

1164
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he's going to hit

1165
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: the market after this year if unless the bills, unless

1166
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: sign changes. Steve on the tweet sheet says, it's not

1167
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: very bold because sixty guys have the talent to make

1168
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: this team. The boldest thing I can come up with

1169
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: is that both Hodgins and cam Lewis make the fifty three.

1170
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: All right, we already talked Cam Lewis, so let's talk

1171
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: Hodgins here. Steve, we see him on all four special

1172
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: teams units last week. Now, I take that back. I

1173
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: don't believe he was on return. No, he was not

1174
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: on punt return, punt return. He was on kick return,

1175
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: kick coverage and punt. He is new to special teams,

1176
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: looks a little bit like a fish out of water.

1177
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: So he's he's working towards that, right, He's trying to show, hey,

1178
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: I can help on special team. I talked to him

1179
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: after the game on Saturday, said, hey, how are special

1180
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: teams coming? How are the Reds going? How are you

1181
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: doing staying in your lane? That kind of thing. He said,

1182
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm really trying to show I can do some other

1183
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 1: things besides play wide receiver. My fear, for his sake

1184
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: is that he's run out of time. I don't know.

1185
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: It's a tough one enough, I that's the thing. I'm

1186
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: because Jay Kummero is a better special teams player, Dune deal, Lucille.

1187
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: It's just a fact. And could Hodgens get better in

1188
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: that department? I'm I'm sure he could. But is there

1189
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: enough time left for him to show that that's the

1190
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: rub for me. I'm not saying he's not capable, but

1191
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: this train isn't waiting. They need capable special teamers today. Now. Yeah,

1192
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: he got a break when mark Quest Stevenson went down

1193
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: early in camp because that opened up more reps, more

1194
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,959
Speaker 1: playing time. You know, they didn't have to they didn't

1195
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: have to check on Marquis Stevenson getting better as a receiver.

1196
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: They could concentrate on Hodgens. It has become apparent through

1197
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: the rhetoric coming out of the coach's officers stuff. They

1198
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: had asked him to play more physical, bigger, stronger on

1199
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: the ball, help work on the blocking receiver in the

1200
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: run game, doing a better job because we've all seen

1201
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: people who watch this team, You've seen when the Bills

1202
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: are run, run the football, Kumero's out there and he's blocking. Yeah,

1203
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: And so they were saying, Hodgens, you know, why not

1204
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: you let's see who you do that, right, So that

1205
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: was his task and then as you mentioned, he's on

1206
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: punt kickoff, kickoff return. How do you do we have

1207
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: to you know, you have to go back and look

1208
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: at it. It's really I think he's up against it.

1209
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: It's a deep room. We know that it's a room

1210
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: that's heavy and slot receivers, which is what he did

1211
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: in college. But he now he's a six three two

1212
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: fifteen guy. He's not being He's not a slot receiver

1213
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: this level. He doesn't have the explosiveness or the change

1214
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: of direction. And being as deep as he is in

1215
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: the pecking order, he has to show he can do

1216
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: something on special teams. And I don't even know if

1217
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: you've got him. You can't have him ahead of kumearrole

1218
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: right now in terms of special can suit up on

1219
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 1: Sunday if you're going to stand on the sidelines and watch,

1220
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: you got at some point strap it on and get

1221
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: on the field in some way, shape or form. And

1222
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: if it's not on offense, it certainly has to be

1223
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: on special teams. And he hasn't done that yet. Speaking

1224
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: of Isaiah Hodgens, he is addressing the media as we

1225
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: speak after practice is wrapped up for the day today.

1226
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: So let's go to the podium and listen to Isaiah Hodgens.

1227
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: What has been the biggest um I'll really say just

1228
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: my physicality and I really planning to my size. You know,

1229
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: the coach has kind of told me that going into

1230
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: OTAs that you know, they wanted me to play more physical,

1231
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, on the perimeter, and that includes you know, blocking,

1232
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: but not only just that, but you know, really when

1233
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: there's a ball and it's a contested catch or it's

1234
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: in the air, that it's you know, it's my ball,

1235
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: or it's across the middle, and you know, I come

1236
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: down with us tough grafts. You know, I've really been

1237
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: trying to focus on, you know, extending my hands for

1238
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: catches and just contested catches basically, Ford and I'm doin

1239
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: a great things, just like your perspective, Um, Cody Ford. Yeah, Um, great,

1240
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: great dude man. Um. You know, he kind of welcomed

1241
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 1: me in when I first came in here, and we

1242
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: were actually both injured my first year, so you know,

1243
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: I got to spend the whole off season with him

1244
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: and you know, rehabing here and stuff, so I really

1245
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: got to get to know him well. So he's a

1246
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: great dude, and you know, I wish in the best

1247
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: in Arizona overcame. Everybody talks about stacking for the days

1248
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: at the top of another It's easier said than done.

1249
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: When you start to do it, does it kind of

1250
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: feel like a snowball rolling down hill, like in a

1251
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: good way of had a good day. You know, I'm

1252
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: building on it and building on it. Yeah, I mean,

1253
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: it definitely does. But you have to kind of control

1254
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: yourself and your emotions with even when you do have

1255
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: good days. And Dermot always talks about that, you know,

1256
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: are you are you really high today? Are you really low?

1257
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: You know? And he, you know, he kind of challenges

1258
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: us not to you know, just steady being super high

1259
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: and super low, but just you know, constant stacking days

1260
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: are just like a constant you know, progression in your

1261
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 1: game and your mentality. So you know, even after a

1262
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: real good day, Um, you know, our coaches do a

1263
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: real good job of you know, kind of nitpicking and

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01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: always finding stuff that we could get better on. And

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 1: you know, us as players, you know, we hold ourself

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01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: accountable in that way. Too easier to do that to

1267
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: try and stay level now more than it was rookie years. Yeah,

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean definitely, I think I think it is. And

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01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: I also think that's part of a mindset thing for me,

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, my rookie year. You know, I kind of

1271
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit, but you know, I

1272
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: was I think I was a little bit too focused

1273
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: on oh, who's making a team and who's not and

1274
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: counter numbers and all the stuff. And you know, recently

1275
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: I just felt like I've gone over there with the

1276
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: mentality of just um you know, stacking days and going

1277
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: one hundred ten percent every day and you know, letting

1278
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: the coaches figure out the rest because obviously the injury

1279
01:09:53,840 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: and a frustration. Yeah, I mean definitely. You know, I

1280
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: feel like last year training camp, I was having a

1281
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: good training camp, you know until preseason one game where

1282
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: I got hurt. So you know, that was real frustrating

1283
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: and it was a mental battle for me. So I

1284
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: try to do, you know, just learn as much as

1285
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: I can through it, and you know, just really prepare

1286
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: myself for this year in this offseason. And you know,

1287
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: I told myself that you know I can't really I

1288
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: can I can prevent you know, some of the injuries,

1289
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: some soft tissue stuff, with major stuff, I can't really

1290
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: prevent that. So you know, I just went out there

1291
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: with the mindset of just control what I could control

1292
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: and really go all out every day. I mean a

1293
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: lot of patients. Um, you know, I learned a lot

1294
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 1: of stuff mentally, but also just you know, watching these guys,

1295
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, day in and day out. I mean being

1296
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: in a room with Digs and Gabe and everyone is

1297
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, in all the Vets that we've had last year,

1298
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: Emanuel Sanders and before that, you know, John Brown and

1299
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley and just everyone. I mean, you learned so

1300
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: much just from route running playbook. I mean, Josh is

1301
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: a great leader in himself, and you know, whether you're

1302
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: a practice squad guy or you know you're a starter,

1303
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, he cheats people the same, with the same

1304
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: love and joking, energy and everything. So um, you know,

1305
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: it's it's a great team to be one had recently

1306
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: game number one. Um, just what did that feel like

1307
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: for you? What do you think that says about your meat? Yeah? Um,

1308
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: the the quarter before that, I think I ran like

1309
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: a really good route, probably my best route that whole game,

1310
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: and I had I had dropped it on the slant

1311
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: and I was really frustrating that and a couple of

1312
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: the Vets you know, came over to me and you know,

1313
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: just kept me in it. And so you know, I

1314
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: kind of give credit to them because you know, I

1315
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: was kind of getting down myself and they were like

1316
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: you know, fourth quarter, you know you're you're gonna make

1317
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: a play, you know, just keep pushing so um to

1318
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: make a play like that, you know, a big catching

1319
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: a game like that was meant everything to me. And

1320
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely a confidence as well to take

1321
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: thankfully physically, to become a good special people player. Uh,

1322
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean literally what you said that first part. Mentally,

1323
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: it's just literally a mindset. You know, you talk a

1324
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: lot with smiling about it and everything. It's just a

1325
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: little mindsets just like you know, I'm gonna go down

1326
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: there and I'm gonna make this tack or I'm gonna

1327
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: get off this block or no matter who big, you know,

1328
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: how big this guy is in front of me, you

1329
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna block them. And it's just the mindset

1330
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: of like, if this is what I have to do

1331
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: to make the team, you know, I'm gonna do it.

1332
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's always gonna help people out like me,

1333
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, who are you know kind of like last

1334
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: guys to you know, try to make this roster and

1335
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: guys who you know are fighting for playing time and stuff.

1336
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: So you know, the more experience I could get, you know,

1337
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: the more playing time the more reps um, you know,

1338
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: it's gonna help me out in the long run. You've

1339
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: gotten better BAAL team coverage person. Yeah, I feel like

1340
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: I've definitely improved a lot, and I still have a

1341
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: lot more to go and a lot of improving. But

1342
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'm in our special Team's room is full

1343
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: of dogs and great guys. I mean from Sarran to

1344
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, Matta Cavage and um, you know Tyrell Dawson,

1345
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: just like everybody. I mean, just watching those guys now

1346
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: hard they go, um, you know, really motivates me and

1347
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: helps me out as well. Everything I can imagine myself

1348
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: like number kind of like how do you how? Yeah?

1349
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the coaches, you know, they have

1350
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: their own process, and you know, there's always surprises every year.

1351
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 1: If you know, people think they know and then you know,

1352
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: last second thing has happened. So you know, I try

1353
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: not to wrap myself in that too much because I

1354
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: just feel like it's gonna throw me off mentally. If

1355
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: I go into this next game just thinking, oh, if

1356
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: I do this or don't do this, it's gonna you know,

1357
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: affect the outcome. Then I feel like it's just gonna

1358
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: throw off my games. You know, I'm just going into

1359
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: this game just with a clear mindset or just you know,

1360
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: playing this game like it's my last game and going

1361
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: all out and learn the numbers and the you know,

1362
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: roster spots, you know, speak for it after all. Right,

1363
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: that's Isaiah Hodgens addressing the media there. You heard him

1364
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: address how he feels he's come along in the special

1365
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: team side of the game. He feels like he's made

1366
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: some improvements, still feels like he's got a long way

1367
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: to go. And it's a tricky thing right now for him.

1368
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: It's not like the want is not there. He wants

1369
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: to do everything in his power to make this roster.

1370
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: It's just he's in an uphill battle right now because

1371
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: there's a guy, there's a guy at his position that's

1372
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 1: got more experience on special teams and is more proven

1373
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: on special teams in Jake Kumerou, and then we have

1374
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: receiver talent that is entrenched on this roster. It makes

1375
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: for a very difficult path to clear for Isaiah Hodgins,

1376
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: who on maybe ten or twelve other NFL rosters might

1377
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 1: be a shoeing to make a fifty three. We have

1378
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: to take a break here. But when we come back

1379
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: more postgame practice sound for you, as James Cook will

1380
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: be addressing the media following practice here. We'll bring him

1381
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: to you next on One Bill's Live, presented by Collot

1382
01:14:48,800 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back

1383
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

1384
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: We don't want to wait any longer. We have to

1385
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: go back to the post practice lectern where addressing the

1386
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: media at this time is a rookie running back James Cook.

1387
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 1: Let's get to the second round. Pick out there for

1388
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: your very first kickoff and the NFL uniform that first

1389
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: preseason GA and what was that like for you? Um?

1390
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's a dream come true, you know, just

1391
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: living out my dreams or becoming the NFL there and

1392
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was just fun, you know,

1393
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: just to suit up my first year, my first time

1394
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: ready obvious, So you know a lot about the NFL,

1395
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: from your brother, from the people you're trained with, from

1396
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: you know, training to get here for a long time.

1397
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: Have you found out anything you didn't know about the

1398
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: NFL in your first month and a half of training

1399
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: camp or whatever spent? Oh, I'm not really just learning

1400
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: new things, you know, like like learning new schemes and

1401
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: learning how to like calls and stuff like that. Really

1402
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: you can catch you when you needed to. You it's

1403
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: pretty easy. Your health again, I know why, um, you know,

1404
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: just trying to do whatever to help the team win.

1405
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: You know that could be running back, receiver, old line.

1406
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: If I could you know just how the team win.

1407
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: If the question has been asked for, how are you

1408
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: getting acclimated, you know, to the NFL level? Come from college?

1409
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: You know, Georgia's kind of a NFL program, I mean, yeah,

1410
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: NFL program. Just how are you getting acclimated? How are

1411
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: you even getting used to? You know, just out there

1412
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: grinding really every day, just just getting custom of the speed,

1413
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I can't from the SEC, so

1414
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of fast, but it was

1415
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: a little different up here. Talking about how young players

1416
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: trying to keep you from knockout or high game, well,

1417
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: seem like a mellow, low key guy. Is that something

1418
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: that you can do well of of not getting too

1419
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: high or not getting too well? Yeah, I just try

1420
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: to stay mute you, you know, do everything you know

1421
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,560
Speaker 1: good and a bad. Just stay mute you and like

1422
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: a football turn just play the next play or just

1423
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: keep going personality. Yeah, it's kind of funny. It's kind

1424
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: of funny. It's kind of funny. I mean, you know

1425
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: they're good, but they're good guys though. I'm learning from

1426
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: them each and every day, you know what I mean,

1427
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: we all getting better every day. I feel like you

1428
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: guys have a complimentary a skill set. The outside, it

1429
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: seems like maybe somebody's really good at one thing but

1430
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: another guy gave nothing else. Does it feel like you

1431
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: guys kind of mesh well together? And that sound? I mean,

1432
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, we all different in our own ways. Um,

1433
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, some some people don't stick their head in

1434
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: there and get tough yards. I mean, we all gonna

1435
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: do that, but you know, we just all different in

1436
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 1: our own way. Like as running backs period, How do

1437
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 1: you feel you're progressing as a past protector? What's the

1438
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: pick up? What is some of the big things you're

1439
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: working on that? Yeah, you know, I'm doing good, you know,

1440
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: just just trying to stack days ready, Um, no particularly

1441
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm but I know I'm getting better though. But I'm

1442
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: just keep second days and trying to get better each

1443
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: and every day and what I do and in every phase.

1444
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: And he had one on once against Tremaine. I mean,

1445
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: obviously he's pretty big time. Yeah, I went against everybody. Yeah,

1446
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: you know he remains Uh, there aren't too many tremain Yeah.

1447
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,919
Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of big and long and athletic

1448
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: for his for his size. I mean, we all get

1449
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: better each and every day, and he pushed us. If

1450
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: you were able to Denver n you know, you have

1451
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: three good runs first team, three times, you got to

1452
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: the corner twice. I think, um, just what was what

1453
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: went right there? And wasn't good? Uh? You know, be

1454
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 1: able to really You're just they're just the read that

1455
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: I had on the ant spike nan so I I had.

1456
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: Of course I had to bounce it outside. So you know,

1457
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 1: it was just all about my read and who I'm reading. Ready,

1458
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: all right, that's James Cook, who, as Brandon Bean has said,

1459
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: is pretty chill off the field, but when the lights

1460
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: are on, he's ready to go. And you got a

1461
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: taste of that there. Yeah, he is chill, very chill.

1462
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: He's like awake, He's like that, how was it retreat? Sam?

1463
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: Back there? Opening kickoff retreat? He's like, um, it was

1464
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 1: a dream come true? True? Yeah. I was like, Okay, bro,

1465
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: somebody pinched that guy. Yeah, but when again, when when

1466
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: he's got his helmet on in between the lines, he's

1467
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: ready to go. He plays fast, so good for him. Yeah. Uh.

1468
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the tweet sheet, though, as we

1469
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: have been asking you for your one bold roster prediction

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Speaker 1: for the Bills, and we were up to I believe

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Speaker 1: it was Jonathan who said, with how well Terrell Bernard

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Speaker 1: has been as the team ever thought about using Edmonds

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Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. I faintly remember them doing this

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Speaker 1: and him looking good. He has a freakish athletic build

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Speaker 1: and sometimes wonder if that's his strength. In college at

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, he did line up at the outside linebacker

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Speaker 1: position and sometimes was standing up on the line, so

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Speaker 1: it is not a foreign thing for him by any means.

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Speaker 1: And with the trouble that the Bills had last year

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Speaker 1: getting consistent pressure rushing their front four, he and Malano

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Speaker 1: were used a good bit, along with Jordan Poyer for

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Speaker 1: that matter, in blitz packages, and he availed himself pretty

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Speaker 1: well in that area. You got a six foot five

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Speaker 1: condor coming at you as a quarterback, good luck getting

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Speaker 1: a pass off. Well, it's the same thing with you know,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau and a Japanessa. Those two guys are really

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Speaker 1: tall pass rushers, so they're kind of the same mold

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Speaker 1: as as Tremaine. But they're not going to move Tremaine

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Speaker 1: around sound at all. He is where he is. He's

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the defense. He's gonna call the

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Speaker 1: defense and Bernard is not going to take his spot

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Speaker 1: and move him out of there. If Bernard is here,

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Speaker 1: it's because he can back up Tremaine and probably also Milano.

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Speaker 1: Remember this is a this is a group, this is

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Speaker 1: a coaching staff that when Milano got hurt, AJ Klein

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Speaker 1: came into to spell him. He came in for him.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, same thing happened. If Tremaine Edmonds goes out,

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Speaker 1: AJ Clein was in for him. You can bet Bernard

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Speaker 1: is of that same ilk. He's probably gonna be the

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Speaker 1: first linebacker in no matter who comes off the field

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Speaker 1: for any reason. So at least that's what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: Um So, no, they're not gonna move Tremaine Edmonds someplace

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Speaker 1: else to get Bernard on the field. I don't think,

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Speaker 1: not not as a rookie, and I think too well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: If this team wasn't flush with y'all promising defensive ends.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's En von Miller. Maybe there's a package where

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Speaker 1: you deploy Edmonds in that way for a player two

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Speaker 1: in a given game if you feel he gives you

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Speaker 1: a matchup advantage. But that is not the case here

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Speaker 1: with this roster, so I don't anticipate it either. Here

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Speaker 1: we go from Jason. I saw a video a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago of Trey White jumping and running around looking

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Speaker 1: to be very well. If this video is true, why

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Speaker 1: is there so much speculation surrounding his return for the

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Speaker 1: season opener? Thanks Chris and Steve. Awesome job well, Jason.

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Speaker 1: While physically and structurally his knee might be sound after

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Speaker 1: its ACL repair, there is the final step, which is

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Speaker 1: not only strength in the leg that mirrors the strength

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Speaker 1: in his other leg, but it's also the endurance of

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Speaker 1: that strength, and that is what he's presumably been working

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Speaker 1: on for the better part of the month or so.

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Speaker 1: You know, now that he's about seven to eight months

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Speaker 1: clear of surgery, you're usually in your final stages at

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Speaker 1: this point where you're work Just maybe explain how you

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Speaker 1: have to build up endurance in the muscle and everything

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Speaker 1: around the surgically repaired knee. It's a lot of it

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Speaker 1: is as two things. One your mind's ability to think

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Speaker 1: of your knee as being normal again even though it

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel the same, the so called mental hurdle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you it's your new Your body has to get used

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Speaker 1: to the new finger quotes normal because the knees never

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Speaker 1: You're never gonna have it the same ever again. It

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Speaker 1: can be good, just as strong, just as stable and

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Speaker 1: all of that, but it will never feel like the

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Speaker 1: old knee. You have to get used to that. And

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Speaker 1: another thing is it's not just the fact you can run, jump,

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Speaker 1: jump and all that. It also has to you have

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Speaker 1: to be able to flex it, bend it all the way.

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Speaker 1: And that's really difficult to do after surgery. And fact

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Speaker 1: range of motion one of the most one of the

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Speaker 1: most notable advances in recent years, maybe in the last

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Speaker 1: decade or two, has been made by surgeons who began

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Speaker 1: to flex the knee as soon as they were out

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Speaker 1: of surgery. Your knee was being bent like that same day.

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Speaker 1: You remember how you used to cast it stiff. When

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Speaker 1: when you get your knee acl done. Now they put

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Speaker 1: you in this thing that bends it. Whether you're awake

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Speaker 1: or asleep, it's always being moved while you we heal.

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Speaker 1: That is to help you get back quicker when you

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Speaker 1: get it, because when you run, your knee needs to

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Speaker 1: flex and bend hard, and it doesn't after us made

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Speaker 1: your surgery like this. You gotta get over that. And

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Speaker 1: you know, so all of that stuff goes into the

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Speaker 1: into the stew of how far along you are. Not

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Speaker 1: only do you have to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: lift weights with it and extend it with great strength,

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Speaker 1: you also have to be able to flex it and

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Speaker 1: bend it back and with full straighten it with full strength,

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Speaker 1: and bend it with full strength. So all of that

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Speaker 1: goes into the mix. Plus being able to move without

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Speaker 1: thinking about knee is a huge hurdle. And Jason, just

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Speaker 1: because you saw a video of Trey White jumping and

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Speaker 1: running and looking great, that video was what thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: There's a difference between running and jumping for thirty seconds

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Speaker 1: and playing sixty five snaps in an NFL game. It's

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Speaker 1: a huge difference. And endurance is a giant part of

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Speaker 1: that equation, and that's what they're trying to build back

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Speaker 1: into Trey's leg. Right, it's not just his leg either.

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Speaker 1: I mean he can't run, you can't cardiovascular nobody. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's sitting you know, he's sit there and do leg

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Speaker 1: extensions all day, but his you know, his lungs aren't

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Speaker 1: getting anything out of it. So it's a total body

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Speaker 1: You gotta get into a training camp and he can't

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Speaker 1: even football participate, so he can't participate. So he's got

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Speaker 1: all that stuff to go through as well. And we

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Speaker 1: heard Brandon Being say that today that even if he

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Speaker 1: was medically cleared and practicing tomorrow, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: throw him into a preseason game because there is a

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Speaker 1: ramp up period that you have to put him through

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Speaker 1: before he before he is quote unquote game ready, before

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Speaker 1: we see Tredavious White on the football field, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear about him practicing for at least a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: But for that happens. So there's a lot that will

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Speaker 1: happen before Davis White, you know, suits up on a

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Speaker 1: game day. JT on the tweet sheet very quickly says

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Speaker 1: with Ike Butcker out the first four weeks and the

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Speaker 1: trade of Ford I could see Alec Anderson making this

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Speaker 1: roster as a third stringer. Also, Balan Specter will make

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Speaker 1: the fifty three. He is a tackling machine and doesn't

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Speaker 1: wait for the running back to come to him. I

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Speaker 1: think he can play a similar role that aj Klein did. Well.

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Speaker 1: That's that's well and good. But I think Tyrell Dotson

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Speaker 1: right now has the edge in being the next daj Klein.

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Speaker 1: He can come in and back up both spots to

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Speaker 1: Rrel Bernard is right behind him. And then you have

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Speaker 1: to talk about Matakavitch as the special teams linebacker specialist.

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Speaker 1: That leaves Specter is your sixth linebacker. Is he on

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Speaker 1: the roster? I'm not certain right and he could certainly

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Speaker 1: he's a candidate for the practice squad. You and I

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Speaker 1: have liked Alec Anderson, but I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's a fifty three man roster guy either. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Alex Anderson gets closer because of the Cody Ford trade

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Speaker 1: and the Ike Buter designation and the Ike but yes,

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Speaker 1: all of that, but that's a long way from the

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Speaker 1: fifty three. Yeah, I haven't seen him taking reps with

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Speaker 1: maybe the twos, but it's the twos and threes that

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Speaker 1: he's been working at it. But he's You and I

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Speaker 1: both liked him, we both noted it. I just think

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Speaker 1: he might be on the long term path, not the short. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's deep in a really tough root. Yeah, so we'll

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Speaker 1: see break time for us, Steve and I will wrap

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Speaker 1: it up with some of your final thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. As far as your bold roster move for

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Speaker 1: the Bills, We're back in a second here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Life. All right, welcome back to the One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Final thought on the tweet sheet for your one bold

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Speaker 1: roster call for the Bills, Vince, based on camp been

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Speaker 1: playing time in two preseason games, I could see OJ

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Speaker 1: Howard as a trade option. Quentin Morris and Tommy Sweeney

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Speaker 1: have stood out more. They also play special teams. Howard

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Speaker 1: not so much. This team values versatility. You're right about versatility.

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Speaker 1: OJ Howard has some guarantees in his contract that would

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Speaker 1: make releasing him cost prohibitive. Not saying they couldn't do

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Speaker 1: it if you wanted to trade him. I guess that

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Speaker 1: is an option that would alleviate some of the cap

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Speaker 1: hit because the team you move him too would inherit

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Speaker 1: some of the salary if you trade him. If you

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Speaker 1: trade him, you get like one one point four give

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Speaker 1: or take one point two five in related cap, but

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Speaker 1: you'd also get one point six or one point eight

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Speaker 1: in cap savings because he's making with three three million

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Speaker 1: or three point a half, all right, so you probably

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Speaker 1: get two million dollars in cap savings. But you can.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If you trade him to another team,

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Speaker 1: you can trade him for future considerations and the trade

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Speaker 1: still counts. You still get that camp. So whatever you

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Speaker 1: can get for him, you can do it. It comes

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01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: down to is there somebody interested? But yeah, all these

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Speaker 1: guys were at that point. It's a tough roster to make,

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Speaker 1: and you got some value here. You can get what

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Speaker 1: you can get back for tough decisions ahead for sure.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I back tomorrow at one. We'll see you then,