1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Welcome back everybody to Are You a Charlotte? 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Part two? She is returning Jenny Vicks. She wrote the 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: incredible episode Frenemies. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: It is just such a funny thing to think back 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: on what we had, and you know, sometimes you think, like, 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: did we really fully appreciate what we had? I think 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: about this my son a lot. 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: I think about a lot, especially when I watched the 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: episodes again, and I think, right, how lucky were we? 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: And I think towards the end, I mean, I know, 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: from my perspective, by season six, I think I was 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: really appreciating. I was like, oh man, this is going 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: to end like we and how special and how amazingly 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: we got to be on that ride? 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and who knew the ride would continue? 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: You know, it was a it was a ride, and yes, 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: it was a ride for sure. I mean it was 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: also I mean I didn't want it to end. You know, 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm not telling anyone anything that one doesn't know. I 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: never wanted to end, but like I I, you know, 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: and it's such a living thing. I feel like and especially. 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm also rewatching it, as you know, right, and it's 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: so fascinating to rewatch it because it's really interesting and 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: good and surprising. Even having been in it the first 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: time during of saying, like, it holds up just so 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: incredibly well. 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: Way better than I you know, had I not started 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: watching it again because of you, I think I would 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: have been scared to watch some of the episodes. And 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: I think there probably are some that are not holding 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: up as well. 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: No, you know what it is, Jenny, this is what 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: it is. Because I thought that was going to be 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: true too. There are moments, there are moments or like 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: scenes where you're like, oh, you know what I mean. 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: But it's very little, Like I have to say for myself, 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: it's less than I expected. 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's bearing itself out. I mean, people, 40 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: kids are kids above the age of sixteen whatever are 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: finding the show. You know, people are finding the show. People. 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: We love it. 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: Many you show people are sending me memes that I 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: never knew existed. Dad. I'm like, Okay, that's. 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: I know it. 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: I know it. 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: I love it too. I love it too. It's really 48 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: really fun and it's fun because I mean, I don't 49 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: know do you did you watch Overcompensating to Overcompensating? Did 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: you know that Benny has some podcast called Ride and 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: Benny has been on the podcast. We love him very 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: much And one of his lines that he says all 53 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: the time is my line that I say to Kyle, 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you. 55 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Like he just randomly says this. 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: It's like so funny. 57 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: And when he came on, I was like, why, how 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: and why did this become like your thing? And he 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: was just because it's so good, and I was like, okay, wow, wow, Yeah. 60 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: You just don't know when someone's going to pick up something. 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: By the way, also starring in over Compensating Holmes who 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: started in Welcome to Flatch, my show that hom Fox 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: for two seasons. Prite is amazing, amazing she does And 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 2: what I love and Overcompensating is she's completely different than 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: what she did in Flatch, Like that is so true, 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: Blond and Overcome. 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: She's incredible. 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: She's incredible. She's incredible. So yes, I do love that 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: the show has been has been refound, but it gives 70 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: me such I don't want to say painful nostalgia, but 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: it is. It's like you long for that, like I 72 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: long to be back in that writer's room with us. 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: And the good news is, I'm we're all quite close 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: and we see each other, so in some ways we're 75 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: still in the room together. But it's thank god, it's 76 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: not the same. 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: No. I mean, look, we went and did a whole 78 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: other show so we could work together. Do you know 79 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: what I mean? 80 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: You just keep it going. It's like you want that, I. 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: Really do, I know. And then they ended that show 82 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, why, I'll feel the same way, 83 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: even though intellectually I know kind of why, but I'm 84 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: just like, but come on, guys, why let's do something else, 85 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: Like that's how I feel. 86 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: And you know, you try to explain the feeling to 87 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: like for us to other writers, like what it's like 88 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: to be in a room like we were in, and 89 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: you can't really explain it because it was it was 90 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: so finely curated, like Michael did such a good job 91 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: of kind of knowing just kind of knowing what each 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: person was going to bring in there and and making 93 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: it a safe place to be. Even though Michael one 94 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: of my dearest friends. You know, I love you, Michael. 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: Michael hibariously as you know, he's a complicated, discerning writer. Yes, 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: he's going to tell you it's oh, yes, working, Yes, 97 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: and he's going to be right ninety percent of the time. 98 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: Is gonna be right, right, right, And if it's not, 99 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: he'll admit it ultimately. But he who could handle him, 100 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: who could work in the system where we would get 101 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: the best out of everybody, and we did, and so 102 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: we still it's but it's this feeling of like you 103 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: want to go home again, like you I agree, you 104 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: want to go home, and you know, we had it 105 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: was a tough you know, shooting was really tough, Like 106 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: I think we probably I don't know if we talked 107 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: about this last time, but there was a point or 108 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: if you talked about it with other people where we 109 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: were shooting three different episodes at the same time. 110 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: Oh at least no, I think it was like six. 111 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: At one point. 112 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: Well, we had two shirts for A B and same 113 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: for that. 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: It was the end of this third season, I think yes, 115 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: because it was such an ambitious season, right, and then 116 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: we had all those unfinished parts at the end, and 117 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: we just took over all of the stages at Silver 118 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: Cup and we had to have crew and the T 119 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: shirts for which group they were on, so they knew 120 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: where to go. 121 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: I was thinking, and I was reminded of this only 122 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: because you don't want to show how hard, like right 123 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: you you all worked so hard, like we really did 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: a moment where not only were we and this was 125 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: a newer thing by the way, for film people who 126 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: may be listening slash watching like to crossboard episodes. It 127 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: wasn't it wasn't done in TV, right, it was done 128 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: out of order in film. But what we were asking 129 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: you all to do, just on a regular basis was 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: to shoot two episodes at the same time. And now 131 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: suddenly it's three episodes. You got to remember where your 132 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: mind is at character wise, how are you feeling, and 133 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: you've got to get get in that set and go shoot. 134 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: And it's like it's true and people are running around 135 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: with T shirts that say A, B and C. And 136 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: you think it was hard people, but the blood and 137 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: sweat shows like. 138 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree totally. I think the thing and 139 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: we have talked about it. I mean, we've talked about 140 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: the hours because the hours were like fully fully bonkers. 141 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: We were younger, thank god, but the hours were fully insane. 142 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: You know, we saw so many sunrises, so many sunrises 143 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: that you know you lost track. But the thing too, 144 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean, like just for everyone who doesn't know what 145 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: crossboarding means, because I have talked about this, but I 146 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: don't know if I explained it's when. So normally, if 147 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: you were doing a film, right, you know the whole script, 148 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, like from page one till page one thirty 149 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: one or whatever it is, and you might shoot it 150 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: out of order, but you know everything that's in it. 151 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: So as an actor, you can prepare. And you might 152 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: have one scene because of the location that has to 153 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: be filmed early that comes late in the film, but 154 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: you can get ready. You can mentally prepare what that 155 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: means for you to do in terms of the character's 156 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: arc of that film. And then with television, depending on 157 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: the type of show, right, and we really broke out 158 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: of the boundaries of the type of show that we 159 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: were is really what we're saying. 160 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: We were. 161 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: We were a single camera comedy. Sometimes people call it 162 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: a sitcom, which I find like wrong, no, because the 163 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: sitcom means that it's a situational comedy at a place 164 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: like Friends was a situational comedy. It's at the what's 165 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: it called the coffee Place, Central Perk. Thank you so much, 166 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: Jenny Bitts. 167 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: I can't remember the line I wrote that the atole says, okay. 168 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay, we'll get we'll get there because 169 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: you wrote you wrote so many of our episodes. Fine, yeah, yeah, yeah, 170 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: but they so then, so what we needed to do 171 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: because we were filming in New York was we had 172 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: to crossboard, which means crossboarding locations. Our schedule is crossboarded, 173 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: so it's two episodes at once with one director and 174 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: one DP, which was important because the other director for 175 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: the next episode is scouting with the other DP. It's 176 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: a very complex world that someone's running John Melfie, you know, amazingly, 177 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: and we are like parts of it, but we're not 178 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: in charge of it. And so you've got two episodes 179 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: happening simultaneously, and you're having to remember where you are 180 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: and what's happened to you. But then sometimes when we 181 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: would get behind and we would have four and or 182 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: at the end of this season, I think it's six 183 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: because it's two, two and two, right, it's like so 184 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: so many, do you know what I mean? 185 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: I don't recall shooting six episodes that one night. 186 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: No, no, you're right, not in one night, like over 187 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: a couple of days. But some of it was really minor, 188 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: like if you had a phone call, remember we would 189 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: do inserts of your hands with the phone, so you'd 190 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: have to run over. We were on this stage the 191 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: old bread factory called Silver Cup, which if anyone's ever 192 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: driven over the fifty ninth Street bridge in New York, 193 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: you see it to the right at Long Island, the city. 194 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: We were there, that was our home, and we had 195 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: all the stages and the actors. We would just be like, 196 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: where do we go now? And we'd have to go 197 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: to our trailer, change into what we wore like three 198 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: months ago, go to you know, stage four and hold 199 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: a phone and have to hit a mark to get 200 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: an insert that we had forgotten to get or hadn't 201 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: had time to get on the day that we'd film 202 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: the scene back then. So it was like just chaos, 203 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: but not unlike the end of shooting and just like 204 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: that because I'd gotten COVID and also we had all 205 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: kinds of location drama, as you know we always do 206 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: in New York. I think towards the end, like the 207 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: last schedule, I think I was filming parts of six 208 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: different episodes. 209 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: See that's that's insanity. 210 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: It was insanity, but I'd gotten COVID, so I couldn't. 211 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: It was partly my fault. I mean, not this's your 212 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: fault that you get it, but you know what I'm saying. 213 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, like the you know 214 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: when I tell I finally confess that Harry has cancer 215 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: to carry that scene was where I was supposed to 216 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: film the day that I got COVID. 217 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 218 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: And I was so ready. You know when you've prepared 219 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: it as an actor and you're so emotionally ready. I 220 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: was so ready. And then at like four in the morning, 221 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: I woke up and I thought my air conditioning had 222 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: broken because I was so hot. Oh no, never a 223 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: good sign. So we had to punt it. But we 224 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: needed like a CVS or Duyne weed or whatever it was. 225 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: It went all the way to the end, which was 226 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: like three months later, and I was like, oh my god, 227 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: do I have it? Do I remember? Do I know? Oh? 228 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: Lord? It was some something else. It's it's it is amazing. 229 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: And look shout out to any anyone and everyone who 230 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: handled continuity on our show. Oh my godness, It's very 231 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: rare that you'll watch an episode and be like, wait 232 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: a minute, why is you know Charlotte's sweater nodded a 233 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: little differently? 234 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, I have never thought that. It's amazing. 235 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: It's hard to really convey how hard that would be 236 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: on a show like ours, where there were so many 237 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: moving parts. 238 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: So many details, so many details, hair and makeup, hair. 239 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: And makeup, but that all of that. Thankfully, all of 240 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: you were good with your own continuity, like we're inter 241 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: it man. Oh I picked up my drink. 242 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: Oh god, yes, and took the coffee shops, the coffee 243 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: shops shops. 244 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: The fact that there's not any airing errors is really 245 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: a testament to every all our crew. Absolutely, we had 246 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: the very best crew in New. 247 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: York, the very best crew in New York, I know, 248 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: and the very best editors. 249 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: And the very best editor. We really kind of had 250 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: the best, because good things attract good people. 251 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: Did we leave out any major storylines that we should 252 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: talk about? 253 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: Well, we didn't really talk about the learning annext thing, 254 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: but I. 255 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: Think, oh yeah, oh god, so so anxiety provoking anxiety? 256 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: Was that based on you guys, or was that based 257 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: on like a Candice Bushnell type of a situation. 258 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: Well, it was. It was a combo played right, because 259 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: we would talk a lot in the room about how 260 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: and I'm sure this happened for you too, that when 261 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: you write or appear in a show like Sex and 262 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: the City, people assume that you know a lot about 263 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: really relationships. So people would come to us as writers 264 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: and be like, what do I do about this? What 265 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: do I do about it? And we're like, do you 266 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: understand we're writing about the situations we're in, Like we 267 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: were all definitely single, like some of us could keep 268 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: a relationship going. So the idea that people saw us 269 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: us as experts was hilarious to us, and so we 270 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: wanted to take that and really literally put it up 271 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: on stage. And then it became also the kind of 272 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: the candae of it, and and I think somebody had 273 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: done attit. I don't think any one of us were 274 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: asked specifically to do a learning annex about being single, 275 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: but occasionally we would do panels and things like that, 276 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: and yeah, would get sure questions and we're like, we 277 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: don't know, and that's why we write about it. 278 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Oh my gosh. 279 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: But it was fun to see and also if you 280 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: look in that crowd. You'll see a number of actors 281 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: that you have. Then we'll have seen another thing since then. 282 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: Like I really shout out as well to there was 283 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: no small parts in this. 284 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: Show, Oh for sure. Yeah. I have a list somewhere 285 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: of all these people. Let me find it. I mean, 286 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: I was kind of amazed. I didn't realize I wasn't 287 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: there for that day, right obviously, but I mean it 288 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: was really fun to watch it, and I hadn't remembered this, 289 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: not one little bit. Okay. 290 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: Wait. 291 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: Catherine Curtin guest stars as Girl Number two in the 292 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Learning Seminar. Asking a question she's now known for playing 293 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Joanne on Insecure, Claudia Ye, Dustin's mother on Stranger Things, Wow, 294 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: Wanda Bell on Oranges and The New Black Cool, Rebecca discussed. 295 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: Yes she was one of your one of myself. 296 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: Yes I know she is. Yes, yes, yes. She played 297 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Brenda on The Mentalist, Evelyn on Devious Maids, and Marge 298 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: on For All Mankind. Pull Jim is played by a 299 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: guy named Dominic Fumosa, who is now known for playing 300 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Kevin on Hers Detective on Goliath, Pete on Cop in 301 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: The Purge, and he was on divorce. Wow, Oh my god, 302 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: did you did you realize that? Yes, yeah, Oh my god. 303 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: It's incredible. And there's there's more. There's more. I mean, 304 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: there's like long, long lists. It's impressive. 305 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: It's so fun to see to see that because, as 306 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: we've discussed in the past, but at the time that 307 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: we were shooting in New York, the only shows really 308 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: were cop shows shooting there. So we were able to 309 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: suddenly take advantage of all these fantastic performers who weren't 310 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: necessarily cop show people who maybe could tonally do some 311 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: more lighter comedy, and then they get to go on 312 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: and do amazing other things. 313 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, I remember. I remember that whole part of it. 314 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: I remember walking around like we were on location and 315 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: we were walking somewhere and we'd run into actors on 316 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: the street and they'd be like, oh, I just read 317 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: for blah blah blah. You know, it was just such 318 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: a fun community feeling, you know, that everybody wanted to 319 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: be on the show, and that there were so many parts, 320 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: and you know, the guys had to go back to 321 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: call back after callback and they were all slightly traumatized, 322 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, which was entertaining. 323 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: We would but not illegally. 324 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: No, no, not illegally at all, just they were not 325 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: used to being in that position. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 326 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: I did a tiny part before Melrose on Er the 327 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: first season of VR, and I might have had I 328 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: don't know, five lines, but it was with Clooney. 329 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: And I believe what did you play? 330 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm a like a I feel like I was a mom, 331 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: but I don't remember child, so I'm not one hundred 332 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: percent sure. I just really remember George. Okay, I don't 333 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: remember hardly anything but that, though I do remember young 334 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: Noah because I had so it was so much fun 335 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: and you could feel the energy and that they were 336 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: doing things differently as well, and it was one of 337 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: their really big I was in just a little get a, 338 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, in a he was my doctor, right, and 339 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: I can't remember nothing horrible had happened to me, right, 340 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: I was just like flirting with him. That that was 341 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: my role. It was great. But they were doing one 342 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: of their big scenes beforehand where they're all the main 343 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: characters are walking through and talking their you know, medical jargon, 344 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: and they did thirty six takes and I remember just 345 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: being like so impressed, right, and George and Noah were 346 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: playing in the wheelchairs and like ramming into each other 347 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: like boys but having the best time. And they were 348 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: just really into it, and everybody was so happy to 349 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: be there. And the blocking itself of the it was 350 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: like a steady cam shot and the blocking of everyone 351 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: with the jargon. I was like, man, this is a 352 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: hard job. It's like so exciting. Why did I tell 353 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: that story? 354 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 355 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: Because I had had to go to four four callbacks 356 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: for that part of like five lines. 357 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 2: Wow. And also again people will look at that and go, 358 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: oh my god, christ Davis had five lines in er 359 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: and then she goes on to be this big star. 360 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: Like there's this moment everybody, you know, everyone starts with 361 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: their couple lines. 362 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: Oh, for sure, and you're so excited. You know, you're 363 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: so excited to get those couple of lines. 364 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna have to pull up the film 365 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: on this. I move. Oh we can. 366 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: It's great. It's great. George's got the funny hair. It's 367 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: very adorable. It was great. It was great. And the 368 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: thing that was really nice for me, I'll just go 369 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: ahead with the name dropping since I'm deep in already. 370 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: He at that point had been working for so long, right, 371 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: like kind of toiling, you know what I'm saying. And 372 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: he also was smart enough to know that this was 373 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: his moment. His moment was here, and he had such 374 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: a great, great attitude about it, and he was such 375 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: a kind of like a like a teacher in a sage, 376 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: Like you could ask him, like I would call him 377 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: and be like, you know, I got Melrose and I'm 378 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: so nervous and what should I do? And he knew everyone, 379 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: and he'd be like, this is what you should do. 380 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: You know, you need to think about you know, blah 381 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: blah blah and blah blah blah blah blah blah, but 382 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: don't think about all those other things, you know, Like 383 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: he could really he was like a coach, you know 384 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 385 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: Oh wild, Like I would I love that and I 386 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: love knowing that because I would never put you two 387 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: together as like mentor mentee. 388 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's not that much older than me, 389 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: but he'd just been in it for so long, you know, 390 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: and he's so smart about it all, even like back then, 391 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: like he'd just been observing and observing and observing, you know, 392 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: and had like so many wise things like there's this 393 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: thing that when you're an unemployed actor and you're going 394 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: to all the auditions. You would be like bitter about 395 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: whoever got your part right. You'd be like that person 396 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: got my part, and he would talk about like that 397 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: is just the wrong thinking. Altogether, you're going to get 398 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: what's meant for you and you didn't lose that part. 399 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: You never had that part. You just want to be 400 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: in the mix. Like he was like that, like so wise, right, 401 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: I know. 402 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: All him now, and just see what the advice he 403 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: wants to give. 404 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure he would have advice. I think this 405 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: man would always have advice. But the thing that if 406 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: I called him now, I would tell him how much 407 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: I love Ja Kelly, and that I that I've did. 408 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: You watch Jake Kelly. I love the end of Jake 409 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: Kelly so much. I loved all of it, but like 410 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: that scene where he's watching himself, it's so beautiful. 411 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: And I'm sure too as an actor, there's also relatability 412 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: to kind of where you belong in this, in this ecosystem. 413 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, he's I mean, he can do no wrong. 414 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: In my book, I agree, I agree one and I'm 415 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: so lucky I got to be there and watch it 416 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: and I love to watch Noah and I love to 417 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: watch the Pit because it's like. 418 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: It's just beautiful, it's great. 419 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: We talked about the scary blow job. I mean, Jenny 420 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: very brilliantly talked about how Samantha had to be al 421 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: Samantha as Charlotte had to learn that she was the Samantha, 422 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: like their counterpoints, and then we get to have that 423 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: nice phone call together. I mean that that was a lot. 424 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: I had forgotten the details of the Samantha story lion 425 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: we I was like, oh my god. 426 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: That's you know, even even Samantha has a line show across. Yeah, 427 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 2: I'm not I don't have to go under a table 428 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: because that's about her sexuality, which I always appreciated. It 429 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: was never prurient, it was never like for show. It 430 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 2: was true, it was never needy. It was always what 431 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 2: she needed, but not needy. And this was needy and 432 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: she saw that like she's a shame of like, oh, 433 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: you don't want to be that. You don't want to 434 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: be that person who has to give a blow job 435 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: under a table because you you feel like this guy 436 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: may not stick around. You know, there is that yeah, 437 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that from that gal who also, that's. 438 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: A good point. Yeah, she did, she did. I mean 439 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: the thing about Samantha that I do love rewatching it 440 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: is the the power of her freedom. You know, she's powerful, 441 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: she's not needy, and she's like some of my favorite episodes, 442 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: just the La. Was it that one of the LA 443 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: I love when she's just purely like a guy, you know, 444 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: the LA guy who's the porn model, the dildo model, 445 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: and he tries to talk to her about himself and 446 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: she's like no, and then he reads her the poetry 447 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: and she dying. 448 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I just. 449 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: Love those episodes. Oh my god, I. 450 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: Can talk about those. I mean, that was so wild 451 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: to shoot in La tell Us. 452 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: Do you remember what do you remember? 453 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: Well? So I wrote the Playboy Mansion. 454 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: Oh right, Oh my god, that's a. 455 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: Whole other like, we don't have time to cover it now. 456 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: You should have called you. 457 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: Oh who did you talk to? 458 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: We talked to what's your name? 459 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: Madison? 460 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: Holly Madison. 461 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: Oh well that's pretty good too. 462 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: It was good. It was interesting. She had a lot 463 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: of interesting things to say. But I also and we 464 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: talked to Jennifer lice Cox who's in the other one. Yes, right, 465 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: or she in that same one. 466 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: She's in the other one, right, I mean they. 467 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: Blend in my mind, they're one. Vaughn Vince, amazing Vince. 468 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: But tell me because I want to know what you remember. 469 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: I remember. Here's what I remember. This is one of 470 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: the lines that you know, looking at these women in 471 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: the in the hot tub and coming up with the 472 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: word tit soup, you know, is still like that's something 473 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: that people quote back to me. Look, it's tit soup, 474 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: you know what. Hanging out with Hugh Hefner all night 475 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: like it was like mind blow. It was one of 476 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: those moments where you realize we're in a whole other. 477 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 2: This is a rarefied air that we are currently in 478 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 2: and it is not our. 479 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: Normal, Like, no, not at all. Did you go to 480 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: the party at the Playboy mansion? Yeah, because I refused. 481 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: What do you remember? 482 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: Tell me, yes, I remember a lot and I've forgotten 483 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: a lot. But I also remember needing to get because 484 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: it was a pajama party, like you had to wait. 485 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 2: So I wore like silk purple pajamas and there were 486 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: a number of which you realizes the age of the 487 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: guys was a little scary, like it wasfly you know, 488 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: sixty plus, wow, and very young women. And you would 489 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: kind of go around the corner and see like there 490 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: was definitely stuff happening in the oorgy area and in 491 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: the and in the hotab area, and it was a 492 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: it look, it was a fun party. I remember dancing. 493 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: I remember, you know, wow, we're a good party. But 494 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: you didn't want to look too much under the under 495 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: the rug there. But shooting there was a blast and 496 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: shooting that whole EPSA. Despite that was the scary car accident. Yes, 497 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: that is still every minute of that as I'm sure 498 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: it is for you etched in my etched. 499 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: In my mind absolutely. I mean I wasn't in the car, right, 500 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: but I remember having to go and have like like 501 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: emotional support. I was like the emotional support after the 502 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: fact or whatever for the for the and didn't we 503 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: move the car from the scary hill after that happened, 504 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: because what's in on the film they start on like 505 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: a busy, busy street and then they're on a calm Yeah. 506 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: Right, it was just it was, oh, that was so 507 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: so crazy and scary, and you know, standing and watching 508 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: it and not being able to do anything about it, 509 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: and whatever divine thing was happening. Everybody was okay, and right, 510 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: you know, we're probably not going to use this in 511 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: this app, you know. 512 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's fine because we've already discussed that. 513 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, not something I want to see again. 514 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: No, no, And I mean it does really make you 515 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: think about like sometimes I feel like things on set, 516 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: like as much preparation as there is, sometimes there's just 517 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: you can't prepare enough, and you think it's going to 518 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: be fine, you know, and then suddenly suddenly it's not. 519 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: It's super scary. 520 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: Super scary, and we were really lucky that. I don't 521 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: think anyone do you recall, like ever having a moment 522 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 2: where like considering the fact that we would often like 523 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: now we wouldn't be able to have like real candles 524 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: and things like that. But like nothing ever as I 525 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: remember lit on fire or you know, no one really 526 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: injured themselves, Like there was so much running in heels. 527 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: Like the no can you imagine. I mean, when I 528 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: watched the one is it? What's the one that I 529 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: just watched where she loses his dog in the village, 530 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: it's so good, but also I mean I really thought 531 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: that dog was going to get hit by a car. 532 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: I was super panicked and then she's wearing like like slides. 533 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: There's not even an ankle strap. What on earth? She 534 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: is a like an Olympic athlete? 535 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: Is she can do anything in a pair of high 536 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: heeled shoes that I don't do this at home because 537 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: now is unbelievable. And she would agree, it's not like 538 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: we sped up the film. She was running shoes all 539 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: the time. 540 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Insane. You can tell because the people behind her are 541 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: in normal time. Yeah. No, they're like regular people or whatever. 542 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: Just regular, and she's like, you know, a superhero. 543 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: I know, it is incredible. It's incredible. I agree so many. 544 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this season in general is incredible. I mean, 545 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: the first two seasons were so much better than I 546 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: what I remembered, which I think I told you last 547 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: time you came. But the third season, in my mind 548 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: had always been like when things just went, like everything 549 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: like clicked in and man rewatching it has not disappointed. 550 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so interesting. I definitely think we all felt 551 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: that way that for US season three, suddenly everything clicked. 552 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: You're right, that's exact right where it like everything was 553 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: running on cylinders and like all the all of you 554 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: all were working great together and working great with the material, 555 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 2: and we were going deep into these storylines that we 556 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: got to tell and it just felt like, oh my god. 557 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: And it was also for us. I think it was 558 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: basically the end of season two beginning of season three 559 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 2: where people started to really watch as well. So we 560 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: were also going out into the world seeing that people 561 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: were responding. Because, as we've talked about, the first season 562 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 2: we shot and it didn't even air before we were 563 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: shooting season right, so people think we all the time 564 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: knew that there was going to be this hit and 565 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: we were just having a good time and being like 566 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: this is crazy. Is it totally totally stating on Fifth 567 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: Avenue and everyone's annoyed at us. 568 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: Because definitely, definitely. I was trying to remember when the 569 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: first Globes was because we did do this thing with 570 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Sarah where we got to give her this the Carol 571 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: Urnett Award, and I was talking to one of the 572 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: ladies from the Hollywood Farm Press, and you know, they 573 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: do kind of consider us their babies in a weird way, 574 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: because remember that time that we went, the first time 575 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: that we went, and then we won, and we're all 576 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: just like, what what what planet did we live on? 577 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 1: Like wa where are we? Like, we looked at and 578 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: Michael has that long girl I mean, and the goatee, yes, 579 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: all of it. Yeah, my god, I love it so much. 580 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: Time we went. So this is Michael and I call 581 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: this story the crinkle cut Cheese story. And maybe he's 582 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: told this story already, but no. So the first time 583 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: we went to the Globes was when Sarah Jesk was nominated, 584 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: So she was nominated before the show was nominated. 585 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: You didn't remember, okay. 586 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: And I'm going to say that was for season two, Okay, 587 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: And so Michael and I were invited to go to 588 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: Golden Globes. Now we didn't know from going to the 589 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: Golden Globes. We did whatever, and so we tried to 590 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: the Golden Globes in my miata. So that tells you 591 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: to kind of where we're at. Okay, people and we 592 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: park and we walk up to the front and we're like, hello, 593 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: we're here for the Golden Globes and they're like, yeah, no, 594 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: you don't go in the main room. You're going to 595 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: go upstairs. HBO had rented a hotel room because it 596 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: was also so early in the days of nominations at HBO, 597 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: they were they had done the rat Pack. I'm going 598 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: to say mini series, but it maybe yeah, maybe it's 599 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: just ever. 600 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: It was yeah something. 601 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that is nominated. So because I go up 602 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: to the hotel room and it is a lot of 603 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: the older ladies who had been involved with the rat 604 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: Pack at different times. Wow, they had taken up the 605 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: seating as they should have because they were older, right, 606 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: Michael and myself and Candice Bushnell who had gotten herself 607 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: all dolled up and looked amazing, and we're sitting in 608 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: a hotel room and then on the table while there 609 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: is crinkle cut cheese. Wow, that is now, if you 610 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: would like to know a little insider thing when Michael 611 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: and I say something is a crinkle cut cheese moment. 612 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: It's when you expected to be like really everything and 613 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: you just walk into a hotel room with some crinkle 614 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 2: cut And now since then we went on to go 615 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: up on stage multiple times. 616 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's adorable. But I like that. I like 617 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: that very much. That's a good story that I had 618 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: never heard. 619 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: Okay, well you can quote the crinkle cut cheese back 620 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: to mind. 621 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: I love it so much. The crinkle cut cheese. Everybody 622 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: we know what it means. 623 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: But you have to remember things start, you know, you 624 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: have to have those moments to really appreciate, like you 625 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: don't just get to go and be the bell of 626 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: the ball, right like, no, it's true. And she looked. 627 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: I remember what she was wearing because it was this 628 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: amazing kind of topey sequinny. I mean she could wear anything. 629 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: You guys, did she win? 630 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: She didn't win? 631 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, we had a great time. I'm so glad. 632 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: That's a good story. That's a good story. 633 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: You can't really appreciate getting in through those doors now 634 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: at that table let alone winning until you go to 635 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: a hotel room where you have to stand up and 636 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: eat crinkle cut cheese. 637 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: See, I love it. I love it well, Thank you, Jenny. 638 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: Always fun, Always sure to have a different LA conversation 639 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: because putting the pieces together of LA is very interesting. 640 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: La. That was a tough shoot too, man, I remember 641 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: shooting at You weren't in this scene and it was 642 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: It was s Ja and Sarah Michelle Geller and we 643 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: shot until about eight in the morning overnight because we 644 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: had to have a restaurant closed, so we had to 645 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: shoot once they had closed at a restaurant that no 646 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: longer exists on Melrose or Beverly, but it was. It 647 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: was a lot of nighttime. 648 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: I know. Remember I had my house here, and obviously 649 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: Charlotte only comes for one of the two and I 650 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: was like, you guys, I live there, come on, let 651 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: me let me call, let. 652 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: Me in it. 653 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: And I remember, I remember one night we were shooting 654 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: at the Standard, which obviously closed as well, sadly, and 655 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: they said to me go home and go to bed 656 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: and then come back at three am. And I was like, okay. 657 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: It was so wild, like I finally got to sleep 658 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: in my own bed. 659 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: Right. 660 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: We weren't really sleeping. 661 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: No, exactly exactly. 662 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: I know, I'm in the same city where my bed 663 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: is exactly. 664 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: That's how I felt too. I was like, the joy 665 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: is that I can go home and go to sleep 666 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: and then get back up and drive back over here 667 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: at three am, and which I will do. And we 668 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: were happy to do it. Yeah, we were. I mean, 669 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: we were young, and you're super excited. 670 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 2: I know, right, God, I don't I don't know how 671 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 2: we did it. And you know, you talk about getting COVID, 672 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: It's like we didn't get sick often. 673 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: And if we did, they just handed out the z pag. 674 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 675 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: They were like, here you go, enjoy, keep keep it going, 676 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: keep it going. Oh you can't talk here, we're going 677 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: to give you presdent zone. I mean, you know, it 678 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: was it was a lot, it was interesting. But again, 679 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: do it again in a heartbeat a heart Yeah, yeah, Jenny, 680 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: You're a joy. 681 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 2: You're a joy. This is so much fun. 682 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: I know. Thank you for your time. Yay, yay, yay yay. 683 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: It's good to have you. It's good to have you 684 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: because sometimes I need to have your perspective to to 685 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: put with whatever vague memories I have. 686 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: You know, well, together we can find one memory totally. 687 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: We can patch them back. Yes, I love it. I 688 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: love it so much. Thank you. Have a great day. 689 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: You have a great day. Thank you. Bye bye everybody, Bye, 690 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: instant the PASSI