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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It seems like what I'm hearing the latest news and

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Speaker 2: correct me if I'm off off the path here, but

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Speaker 2: it seems like what you're hearing is the Pentagon has

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Speaker 2: totally in the military too, have totally duped us into

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Speaker 2: releasing videos that aren't really that spectacular, but to get

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Speaker 2: us talking about UAPs, but to distract us from what's

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Speaker 2: really going on. Is that close to what I'm understanding?

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Speaker 3: Sort of something extraordinary just happened, and I do want

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Speaker 3: to address it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go and.

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Speaker 3: And what the best way I can describe it is

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Speaker 3: that there's been another effort to push back against the

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Speaker 3: disclosure process, which has been making great progress of late.

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Speaker 2: Yes, over the last few years, it's talked about a lot,

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Speaker 2: but it seems like there is a little bit more now.

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Speaker 2: You guys know too much.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say that simplify. There is a policy that

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Speaker 3: has prevented the American people and the world's people from

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Speaker 3: knowing that there is a presence here that is not human,

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Speaker 3: technologically advanced, almost certainly from other stars. This policy is

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Speaker 3: still in effect. It's been seriously maintained, and that policy,

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Speaker 3: which i'd call the truth embargo, is collapsing. It has

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Speaker 3: been for some time, certainly in the last seven years,

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Speaker 3: and this is leading to a very profound moment in

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Speaker 3: which the government will ultimately have to confirm it. When

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Speaker 3: I say the government, I mean the confirmation from the

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Speaker 3: President of the United States. There are people in government

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Speaker 3: that have been saying there's ets here for some time, astronauts,

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Speaker 3: scientists and so forth. That doesn't count. What counts as

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Speaker 3: when it's confirmed by the office of the President. Now

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Speaker 3: it helps if that confirmation, when it happens, is supported

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Speaker 3: by a lot of other appropriate endeavors that have taken place,

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Speaker 3: such as a series of legislation, witnesses testifying before Congress,

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Speaker 3: many many private breathings of members of Congress, the key

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Speaker 3: members in the background, a great deal of media coverage right,

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Speaker 3: all of which has happened substantially that would be helpful,

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Speaker 3: and that has happened, and thus, technically speaking, as I

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Speaker 3: perceive it, the platform upon which a president, whoever it is,

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Speaker 3: needs to have to step on to to be able

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Speaker 3: to tell the American people that, yeah, we have that

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Speaker 3: non human technologically advanced presence. We even have crash vehicles

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Speaker 3: and bodies and so forth has been built. Without it,

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Speaker 3: it would have been very, very difficult. There were individuals

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Speaker 3: like lawnce Rockefeller that wanted Bill Clinton to go after

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Speaker 3: these files and get them out, get them, pull them

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Speaker 3: from the Pentagon, and put them out.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we've been talking about that for a while.

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Speaker 2: In fact, before the show, I don't know how many

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Speaker 2: stations that are on now play the Somewhere Back in

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Speaker 2: Time with Art Bell, but that was like circa nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety three, and I heard him talking about disclosure tonight,

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Speaker 2: but it was from nineteen ninety three. And it seems

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Speaker 2: like the same questions we have now are the same

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Speaker 2: questions we had then, except for we have an army

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Speaker 2: of Internet people out there trying to get the word

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Speaker 2: out more and more and more. So it seems like

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Speaker 2: it's see the truth comes kind of seeping out a

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Speaker 2: little bit at the time, but it is still safely guarded.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, like that show, if it was live tonight,

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Speaker 2: you could ask the same questions and we'd still have

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Speaker 2: some of the same answers about pushback and things that

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Speaker 2: we know and things that the military cameras have seen

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Speaker 2: or radar has picked up, but it's still not like

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Speaker 2: you say, the office of the President, which is which

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Speaker 2: is a great thing. What would you describe what is disclosure?

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Speaker 2: For people that are new to the uap UFO thing,

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Speaker 2: how would you describe what disclosure means totally? Is it

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Speaker 2: just the president saying there there's alien contact here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's That's kind of convenient for me because I

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Speaker 3: defined it. Yes, back in two thousand and two, disclosure

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Speaker 3: with a small D had been in play, and it's

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Speaker 3: I'm well understood it was applied to this subject matter.

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Speaker 3: Certainly Steve McGeer applied it in that sense when he

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Speaker 3: created the Disclosure Project. The idea was to disclose the information,

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Speaker 3: get it out, get it out. I get that and

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Speaker 3: that still goes to this day. So I like to

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Speaker 3: in ninety six, was the what's the goal of this? Right?

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Speaker 3: Is the goal of this just to prove that there's

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Speaker 3: because the government's already known about the ets for like

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Speaker 3: sixty some years prior. They've known since all the way

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Speaker 3: forty seven is the is the is the the idea

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Speaker 3: to prove it so well that the government has to yield, meaning, oh,

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Speaker 3: you've proved it. What can I say? Yeah, we've been

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Speaker 3: telling not telling you the truth. That's not a very

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Speaker 3: good goal. What is the goal of this movement? And

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Speaker 3: I said, it has to be the confirmation. It has

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Speaker 3: to be the confirmation of the heads of state, which

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Speaker 3: then open all the doors. And so what's the name

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Speaker 3: for that? We could call it confirmation, but I said,

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Speaker 3: let's call it disclosure capital D. Let's take small D disclosure,

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Speaker 3: make it a proper noun, and basically say, it is

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Speaker 3: the moment those words come out of the mouth of

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Speaker 3: a head of state, preferably first from our president. Capital

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Speaker 3: D disclosure. That's what it is. Anything else is not

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Speaker 3: my definition. And I'm really not that interested. How close

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Speaker 3: are we to that? Very very close? But we have

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Speaker 3: been at it now in a very vociferous way since

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Speaker 3: the Clinton administration and the Rockefeller initiative. When the tide certain,

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Speaker 3: when the things started to turn, and while I hope

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Speaker 3: that they would move faster. We are now what nineteen

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Speaker 3: and we're not quite there, but we are almost there.

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Speaker 3: In the last seven years, Morris happened in the previous

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Speaker 3: seventy seventy years. And it's not that we have the

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Speaker 3: same questions. We have plenty of answers right, and the

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Speaker 3: work has been done to build the platform on which

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Speaker 3: the president could stand. There was no platform for Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 3: There was no platform for George Bush or Rock I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: or Barack Obama. There is a platform for this or

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Speaker 3: Biden for that matter. That it was being built. It

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Speaker 3: was being built, and a lot happened in the four

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Speaker 3: in the House Subcommittee. That was under Biden. But then

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Speaker 3: and it happens, if we can get through this current situation,

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Speaker 3: he will be the disclosure president. Everything is set for

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Speaker 3: him to do it. All he has to do is

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Speaker 3: walk out in the East Wing and say it. There's

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Speaker 3: a number of ways to go about that, but the

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Speaker 3: outcome is the same, but it's not like the current

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Speaker 3: president has done a great deal to make this happen.

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Speaker 3: That's all right, because the presidents have a lot to do.

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Speaker 3: It will be because he will be the president when

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Speaker 3: the music stops. And here's where things get interesting, because

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Speaker 3: there are still significant entities within the military intelligence complex

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Speaker 3: will he accept this event to take place, for various reasons,

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Speaker 3: They're just not ready, and so over the years you

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Speaker 3: see these attempts to push back. There have been a

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Speaker 3: few since the Endgame began in twenty seventeen. By and

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Speaker 3: It's going to be transparent, and so that makes it

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Speaker 3: even more difficult, which brings us to now. We were

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Speaker 3: making tremendous progress and then there was a dramatic change

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Speaker 3: concerned about the fact that in the last number of years,

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Speaker 3: developments have occurred overseas, which, while there have been precedents

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the world changed just a few days ago. Again

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Speaker 2: completely when that happened, it's like now we're in a

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Speaker 3: It seems like we're in a totally different existence. But

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Speaker 3: they're doing some bombing and aronspiring some missiles, but it's

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Speaker 3: not a war. The hell it isn't. This is a

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Speaker 3: I'm killed or are injured, forgive me, and the potential

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Speaker 3: for the use of nukes is high, very high. This

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Speaker 3: I referring to? All Right? First of all, the war

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Speaker 3: saying that is the case. And while we've gone through

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Speaker 3: conflicts that have led to terrorist reactions. We haven't gone

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Speaker 3: There were six eighties. We managed to pair that down

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Speaker 3: And that is absolutely nonsense. And so the use of

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Speaker 3: And I'm talking about the war in Iran. I'm also

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Speaker 3: these two wars, two of the entities are nuclear. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: all of this disruption just absorbing the intention of Europe

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Speaker 3: and the United States, Russia, China is sitting there looking

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Speaker 3: at Taiwan, going when do we want to take it?

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Speaker 3: Why not? Now? What's going to happen? The risk of

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Speaker 3: nuclear events in that case. So we are in a

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Speaker 3: really dangerous situation. And I believe that people in the

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Speaker 3: because we can't deal with that and try to avoid

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Speaker 3: the calamities and all of this awful behavior which has

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Speaker 3: been going on for well thousands of years. That's certainly

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Speaker 3: the modern era from nineteen oh one forward, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: nineteen oh one forward has been rather profound, or rather,

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Speaker 3: casting tens, if not one hundreds of trallions of dollars,

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Speaker 3: and we keep doing it. And so they're going, my god,

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Speaker 3: let's push back.

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Speaker 2: And is there part of you, Steven as you as

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Speaker 2: you look at this instead of thinking of pushback, is

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Speaker 2: there part of you that, if you're in that entity

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Speaker 2: of government that you're like, well, why don't we why

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Speaker 2: don't we do some disclosure, because that'll be become like

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Speaker 2: Lindberg baby headlines and now we can take the heat off.

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Speaker 2: The other thing. You use it as a distraction. Almost there,

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Speaker 2: almost Okay. So that's where you're going with this, is

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Speaker 2: that when it comes out, it's it's a it's a

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Speaker 3: The old the no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: The prestige is that what's happening.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, it's it's much more

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Speaker 3: complicated than that. I'm having a lot of trouble. I

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Speaker 3: I'm keeping I'm trying to keep it together. But it

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Speaker 3: has been absolutely brutal. Because I I'm a political activist.

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Speaker 3: I just happened to be regular lobbyists. I'm a political

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Speaker 3: activist activists, and the disclosure issue isn't one of the

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Speaker 3: focus of my activism. But it's not like I'm not

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Speaker 3: aware of everything else that's going on. And in the

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Speaker 3: thirty years I've been involved in this, I finally understood

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Speaker 3: that the et presence and the modern era and what's

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Speaker 3: maybe even going about more than that, maybe going back

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Speaker 3: fifty years, is connected. In other words, there's a connection

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Speaker 3: with the extraterstrial presence, their activities, what they're doing, what

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Speaker 3: they're saying, and other things, and the slow decline of

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