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Speaker 4: I love him.

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Speaker 5: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Let's go already can flow?

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Speaker 4: Huh?

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Speaker 5: I mean long free show meeting today?

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Speaker 2: Guys?

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Speaker 6: What are we doing as my mic peaking? I don't

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Speaker 6: think it is good to be with you. Tuesday, December

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Speaker 6: sixth two. Thy twenty two is the year episode three

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Speaker 6: seventy five of the Anakin Florian podcast featuring Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Man a lot of people in the comments are talking

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Speaker 6: about your looks at whatever advanced age you are, born

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Speaker 6: nineteen seventy six. Do you ever read the comments, Kenny H.

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Speaker 2: Every once in a while, Every once in a while,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I feel old.

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Speaker 7: I did a little running, like I haven't run in

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Speaker 7: a long time, was doing some like drills and stuff, sprinting.

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Speaker 7: Sore as hell like that. I didn't run a lot

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Speaker 7: and I'm sore. That's how you know you're old. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm feeling it today.

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Speaker 6: Well that makes me feel good because I know that

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Speaker 6: in terms of optimizing muscle mass, the amount I run

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Speaker 6: actually is not good. But I do know that running

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Speaker 6: is a full body workout, and as I think Santino

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Speaker 6: DeFranco and others have said, it's hard from like step

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Speaker 6: three to whatever degree. It could be one percent hard,

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Speaker 6: but as soon as you start going, it's a pain

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Speaker 6: looking ass. You know, I do it most days. I

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Speaker 6: can tell you it's not fun any day I do it.

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Speaker 6: But it's going to be back with you, folks. We

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Speaker 6: have a lot to get to. I feel like we're

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Speaker 6: already up against the clock. That's why that pre show meeting,

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Speaker 6: I mean, did have to be that long fellas, I mean,

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Speaker 6: we do it talking from a Curson in the UH

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Speaker 6: in the first six minutes of the show, which algorithmically

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Speaker 6: I know is really bad. I don't know what to

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Speaker 6: tell people, right, I don't know what to tell people.

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Speaker 6: Focus on content here, not ratings. All right, So let's

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Speaker 6: get into UFC Fight Night, Thompson versus Holland, and then

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Speaker 6: of course picks from UFC two to eighty two Bohovich

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Speaker 6: versus on Goliah Ray Longo minute. Of course, hopefully Cody

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Speaker 6: up here at eleven thirty am Eastern on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: But quite a main event between Steve and wonder Boy

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Speaker 6: Thompson and Kevin Trailblazer Holland. It ends twenty minutes in

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Speaker 6: Kevin Holland all banged up, and unlike what I said

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Speaker 6: on the broadcast about his corner, it seemed as though

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Speaker 6: it was his decision at that point in time, just

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Speaker 6: that point in time. Tremendous toughness, otherworldly. So impressed with

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Speaker 6: what Stephen wonder Boy Thompson is able to do. I guess,

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Speaker 6: the main event, my men, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Listen, there's a lot to unpack.

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Speaker 7: I think that for anybody who's facing someone like a

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Speaker 2: But man is he tough as well. He took some damage.

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Speaker 7: It seemed like and Wonder Boy just ended up taking over.

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Speaker 2: It's just a thing of beauty.

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Speaker 7: Looked like, you know, a many Pakiow in his prime

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Speaker 7: thirty nine years old and doing that against a younger fighter,

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Speaker 2: Wonder Boy's amazing.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know when Wonder Boy's going to retire.

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Speaker 6: But I do think eventually when he retires, he has

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Speaker 6: want to talk about this fight, and particularly when it

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Speaker 6: about the pre fight cordiality, if that's even a word, right,

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Speaker 6: just about Stephen wonder Boy Thompson is the nicest motherfucker

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Speaker 6: out there right and likes to befriend you and become

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Speaker 6: your friend. These guys, Kenny, not only were they as

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Speaker 6: but certainly for headlining athletes. Supposedly their rooms were next

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Speaker 6: whole time. The dude's like seeking out his opponent because

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Speaker 6: hanging out with Kevin Holland too, you know, wouldn't mind

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Speaker 5: But it's crazy, man.

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Speaker 6: It's juxtaposed against guys like you and DC that just

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I don't want to go in there and

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Speaker 7: befriend my opponent. I don't want to get into that

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Speaker 7: mindset I experience that you know with the ultimate fighter

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Speaker 7: the end of the day, you have to be prepared

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Speaker 2: Across from you.

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Speaker 7: Any ounce of weakness or friendship could be the end

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Speaker 7: weapon as well. I am going to be nice to you.

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Speaker 7: doing so, I make you vulnerable to me going out

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Speaker 7: We used to talk about this all the time with

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Speaker 7: he would try to make you friendly, everything's cool, and

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Speaker 7: then he would perform better. He just seemed to be

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Speaker 7: doing better against people like that. Perhaps Wonder Boy has

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Speaker 7: that same approach. I don't know, but yeah, for me,

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Speaker 7: I want to be as far away from my opponent

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Speaker 6: Anyway, Let's make one of the greatest strikers in UFC

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Speaker 6: history super comfortable as if it's a scarring session. Let's

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Speaker 6: do that, right, so you could say what are we

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Speaker 6: me saying, what is this an exhibition?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 6: Kevin Holland doesn't necessarily he's not emotionally attached to winning

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Speaker 6: and I think that dovetails more with his approach in

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Speaker 6: he's durable as hell. I have a lot of respect

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Speaker 7: I wonder if he's even driven by the win in

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Speaker 7: wonder Boy Thompson. Here you are, you're a Brazilian jitsu

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't understand that at all. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Maybe he's trying to prove something to himself that is

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, hey, power to you, man.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, we can't complain about our

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Speaker 7: to fight a certain way, there's going to be repercussions.

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Speaker 7: There's repercussions for every decision we make. But I don't

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Speaker 7: I'm able to fight someone like a Stephen Wonder Boy

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Speaker 7: Thompson and obviously a phenomenal striker, and I get him

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Speaker 7: on the ground, I am not letting that dude up.

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Speaker 7: to submit that dude or pound him out, and Holland

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Speaker 7: is letting him up. I just didn't understand that approach.

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Speaker 7: I would like to, but I don't know. It was

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Speaker 2: Me, all right.

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Speaker 6: Entertaining fight for the masses. Steven Warner Boy Thompson came

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Speaker 6: in number six in the world. Kevin Holland was unranked. Hey,

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Speaker 6: what's that expression, like, you can't have your cake and

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Speaker 7: Is that really what he wants? I don't necessarily believe that.

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Speaker 7: Jeff Neil, He's already fought Jorge Masvidal, right.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know it. So a lot of those.

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Speaker 7: Big fights that he's been seeking out I don't think

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Speaker 7: Is number fourteen, is that a good fight for him?

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Speaker 7: There's just so much competition at one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 7: You want to do that, that's cool. Wonder Boy is

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Speaker 7: right We don't need to talk about the BJ Pens

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, but stand in sheer for halfayl dos

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Speaker 6: fucking on jos Man, right, I mean, is this just

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Speaker 6: I can't wait for his Hall of Fame night. You know,

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Speaker 7: Your thoughts, I would argue there's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: A way to get you the hell out of there.

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Speaker 7: Not try to fight you, but I'm trying to go

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Speaker 7: That's what RJA was able to do with his set

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Speaker 6: I just have so much respect for Halfael dos Angos

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Speaker 7: I love the call out marketing wise, promotional wise, I

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Speaker 2: Of a finish. So I think it's a dangerous fight

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Speaker 7: Could Connor win too, Yeah, absolutely, But I don't think

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Speaker 2: The direction that I would go.

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Speaker 7: And give him another big fight, put him on another

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Speaker 7: a that's another great fighter. I would love to see it.

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Speaker 6: But no, no, I don't think that's what Steve Warner

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Speaker 6: Floyan's got a heavyweight and you got to beat this guy.

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Speaker 6: So if you don't know the story, now it's another

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Speaker 6: knockout for Sergey Pavlovich, this one over Ty to Ivasa

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Speaker 6: fifty four seconds in. And I hope people are making

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Speaker 6: right in these knockout round one propositions. UFC debut at

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Speaker 6: twenty six against Alastair Ovary, then he missed a couple

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Speaker 6: of years due to myriad issues, and now he's got

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Speaker 6: five straight wins and you know, seems to be the

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Speaker 6: boogeyman at least right now with the heavyweight division. What

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Speaker 6: are your thoughts on Pavlovich?

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Speaker 2: Too fast, too powerful for Tye.

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Speaker 7: I was thinking that maybe ty could land a shot

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Speaker 7: as Pavlovitch, you know, hurts him and come back, but

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Speaker 7: there was just too much firepower. That dude is an

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Speaker 7: absolute Savage, a proper heavyweight who hits hard, that's extremely fast,

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Speaker 7: and he's going to be interesting dude.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's a tough guy to beat.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't stand up with that guy for two long

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Speaker 7: put him on his back, see what he has there,

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Speaker 7: because he's going to catch a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Man's a dangerous dude.

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Speaker 6: So it's interesting. I try to look for a heavyweight

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Speaker 6: who maybe could exercise some patience, a see itle Gone type.

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Speaker 6: Curtis Blades would be an interesting challenge and give him

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Speaker 6: the most decorated wrestler at least takedown wise in UFC

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Speaker 6: heavyweight history. Tom Aspinall's on the men. Derek Lewis needs

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Speaker 6: a fight. Been there, done that though, right. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Sergey Pavlovitch is getting awfully close to a championship opportunity,

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Speaker 6: and I do think he has some personality. If he

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Speaker 6: think it would serve him.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if they'll give him Curtis Blades necessarily

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Speaker 6: right now, but yeah, very impressed by the heavyweight, needless

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Speaker 6: to say. And you don't have to go bonus begging guys,

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Speaker 6: go bonus begging. I think it works against you. You

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Speaker 6: have to let the performance do the talking, because I

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Speaker 6: bonuses right as soon as somebody go, hey man, you

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Speaker 6: about the martial arts, right, yeah, all right, we got

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Speaker 6: to get to Roman Dealeds. Longo's coming up any minute,

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Speaker 6: but we have to get to Roman Dealeds. So I'm

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Speaker 6: writing my copy my scripts before the fight and all

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Speaker 6: right coming up next, you know, and all eyes on

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Speaker 6: Roman Deleds. Whatever the hell I was saying, And what

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Speaker 6: I wrote was that in terms of the pre fight

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Speaker 6: fighter meeting with a fighter, I've never been more intimidated

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Speaker 6: than I was this Thursday. And thankfully my questions weren't

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Speaker 6: too off putting. And then what does this guy go

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Speaker 6: out and do something that I had never seen before?

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Speaker 6: So it tuk us throughout Roman Dealidze's TKO against Jack Hermanson.

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Speaker 6: Her Manson was number eight in the world. Now Deleeds

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Speaker 6: likely is going to take his number.

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Speaker 7: I'm particularly impressed by the fact. And here you have

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Speaker 7: a guy who's pretty muscled out, has the ability to

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Speaker 7: knock you out as well, and can move so fluidly

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Speaker 7: and be so relaxed on the ground.

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Speaker 2: John not only.

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Speaker 7: That, but he's extremely creative on the ground as well,

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Speaker 7: and he's hitting high level stuff. It shows to me

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Speaker 7: that he's special on the ground. He's not just another dude.

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Speaker 7: You have to respect him tremendously, whether on the feed

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Speaker 7: or on the ground. And to do that against a

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Speaker 7: guy and her Manson, I mean, you just don't see

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Speaker 7: a whole lot of people do that.

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Speaker 2: He was not afraid to go to the ground. That

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Speaker 2: was the other thing.

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Speaker 7: It was like, Okay, you want to take me down,

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Speaker 7: that's cool, I'll work off my back. Almost went for

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Speaker 7: this beautiful armlock in round one, then went into that

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Speaker 7: pendulum sweep right into the mount and then the finish

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Speaker 7: at the end he hits him with the calf slicer.

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Speaker 2: Oh you want to turn away from me, cool? How

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Speaker 2: about it?

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Speaker 7: Put you belly down into the canvas and they try

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Speaker 7: to separate your knee from you know, the lower part

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Speaker 7: of your leg.

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to pin you to the floor and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ground and pound you.

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Speaker 7: It was just it was nasty, high level stuff that

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Speaker 7: was extremely impressive.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And I can't wait to see him again. Man, I've

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Speaker 7: been sleeping on him. I haven't had my eyes on him.

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Speaker 7: I will watch his next fight. Love watching him fight.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, guys, incredible. It's really going to be interesting too,

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Speaker 6: because I don't believe that Mick Maynard I believe handles

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Speaker 6: the middleweights. If I'm not mistaken, I do not believe

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Speaker 6: he's going to get a lot of phone calls, people

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Speaker 6: burning up his line asking to fight Roman Deliedes and reciprocally,

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Speaker 6: when he's doling out that name, I don't think you're

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Speaker 6: going to get a lot of bites. By the way,

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Speaker 6: Clay Guida was fishing on fight day and I mentioned

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Speaker 6: it on the broadcast, and so as the broadcast continued

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Speaker 6: after his win, he texted me a picture of the

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Speaker 6: fish he caught, you know, back of hotel on fight day,

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Speaker 6: A little little monster, well fucking z monster. No, it

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Speaker 6: wasn't a seam, but it was a nice big fish.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 6: This Roman Delidze though no head coach, and the reason

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Speaker 6: he was able to take this fight is because he

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Speaker 6: stayed in Vegas to help Sergey Spivak prepare for Derek

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Speaker 6: Luis in a fight that did not materialize. But sometimes

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Speaker 6: for guys visa issues and other things, he always goes

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Speaker 6: back to Georgia after his wins, and he had gone

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Speaker 6: home or he had not gone home because of this

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Speaker 6: circumstance with Spivak's fight, and he's got Spivak and Chris

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Speaker 6: Curtis in his corner and got to be motivational for

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Speaker 6: Chris Curtis, who fights this weekend. So when I try

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Speaker 6: to spin it forward for guys, I don't always know

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Speaker 6: who's matched up right. But when you look at some

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Speaker 6: of the guys at middleweight, you know, Sean Strickland and

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Speaker 6: Cannon here obviously have a main event, Kelvin Gastolm and

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Speaker 6: Nosordini Mavov have a main event. I mean, you could

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Speaker 6: do worse than Andre moon Is in Roman dealidze and

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Speaker 6: a main event, But I don't know, you want to

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Speaker 6: pluck one of those guys off. But I mean, my gosh,

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Speaker 6: just so many you like that?

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Speaker 7: You like that, dude, I like that because both those

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Speaker 7: guys submission dues good grapplers. You know, Dalite probably has

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Speaker 7: an edge on power on the feed and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: But those grappling exchanges I'm here for.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 6: Do the matchmakers listen to the Anak and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 4: The coldbrew I needed this morning to get up Crent

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Speaker 6: Okay, Ray, speaking of oldies, what what constitutes a rough

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Speaker 4: That's a good question.

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Speaker 6: Anak and Florian podcast, you know as the star of

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Speaker 6: the show. And I hate to bring this to the air.

652
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 6: This was not my intention to do so. But if

653
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 6: you can fire back at Cody and say, hey, man,

654
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 6: twelve thirty would be better, Like I fucking sleep till

655
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 6: noon and will accommodate.

656
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: No, definitely not. This is perfect. All I gotta do

657
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 4: is look at your two guys smiling, and I'm up.

658
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: I'm up.

659
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 5: All right, it doesn't sound perfect. Do you set an alarm?

660
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

661
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 6: For what time you set an alarm? Usually if you

662
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 6: don't have to do this stupid fucking show.

663
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: Maybe eleven or twelve, that's amazing.

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Speaker 6: Set it for the PM. Kenny must be nice.

665
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Speaker 2: Eleven or twelve. He's like, eleven twelve, Yeah.

666
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I goes eleven turns into twelve.

667
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: Just keep pressing that.

668
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, lay much, Yeah, he snooze.

669
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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 6: Last question on that, what time did you set the

671
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 6: alarm for today?

672
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 4: Eleven o'clock?

673
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 6: All right, maybe not enough time for that. Eleven thirty

674
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: call time for the Anakin Florian Podcast. But I digress.

675
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Speaker 6: So he got like a gallon of fucking colbrew just

676
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: on standby, sitting in the fridge. Guy's all that shit

677
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 6: right right?

678
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: All right? What do we got? Oh?

679
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 6: We got a lot of stuff. How about your boy,

680
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 6: Stephen Warner, boy Thompson with Ray Thompson in his corner.

681
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 6: Look at these guys still getting it done.

682
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: Huh, unbelievable. I'll tell you, give one the boy a

683
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 4: fight like that, he's good for another ten years. I

684
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: really believe that's all he does. That what you saw

685
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: last night, I think he does every day in the gym,

686
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: whether it's with an eight year old or a twenty

687
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 4: eight year old. Like, hey, that's that's what he does.

688
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: I got one kid in the gym just a month off.

689
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 4: We'll take anybody. I'll begin it. But he looked. They

690
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: just play, and they do it every day, and it

691
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 4: becomes if you can't take him out of that rhythm,

692
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 4: you're losing the fight.

693
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Speaker 6: It's so interesting, and you were so bullish in terms

694
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 6: of his chances as a slight underdog in this fight,

695
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 6: and I absolutely give you credit. I mean, we can

696
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 6: certainly talk as much as we want about Kevin Hollins approach,

697
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 6: but Wonder Boy, in a lot of respects still has

698
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 6: got it, even if he, as ken Flow suggested, maybe

699
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 6: as a step slower. But I had said Ray earlier

700
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 6: on the podcast, and I know you weren't here, that

701
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Speaker 6: I think he can fight till forty five, forty six

702
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 6: years old, potentially if he's fighting one or two times

703
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 6: a year strategically, depending on the fight. He did take

704
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 6: a lot of damage though in this fight.

705
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Speaker 4: Well, you got head budded probably once or twice. He

706
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: got hit with the right hand. Besides that, Yeah, that's fair.

707
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Speaker 6: No, well, I guess I'm just thinking about the orbital

708
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 6: right in the broken hand. But you know you're right.

709
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Wait, oh did one the boy break his hand?

710
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, he broke his left hand, if I'm not mistaken.

711
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know that he landed enough times.

712
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 6: But he said that when his father tells him to

713
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 6: step away right then and there, he's done. And whenever

714
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 6: that happens, who knows. But to your point, I really

715
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 6: think I think he's got some staying power. I just

716
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 6: think he got to keep him away from the singlets.

717
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 4: Out of doubt. That's it period.

718
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 6: So anything else on the main event, you have anything

719
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 6: on Kevin Holland. I mean, certainly some people are wondering

720
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 6: why he why these guys were so congenial. I guess

721
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 6: is neither here nor there. But why when the fight

722
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 6: was going on, didn't Kevin Holland want to grapple and

723
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 6: win the fight when the fight was there?

724
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, didn't they have some unwritten agreement?

725
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: And I think, look, they're both nice guys. I think

726
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 4: they had it at that's a coach's nightmare, that's what

727
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: you're asking me.

728
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 6: You know when broadcaster's nightmare too? What was that broadcaster's

729
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 6: nightmare too? If there's a gentleman's agreement for the sport? Right, no, right,

730
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 6: didn't they?

731
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: But somebody else do that? Will back? It was like

732
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: a stand up war. Look, I Q wise it's it's

733
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: not a good thing, but entertainment value. I think it

734
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 4: hit pretty well, right. I think Chandler kind of does

735
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 4: the same thing. Right, they make it. They're not an agreement,

736
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: but they're out there brawl and yet two wrestlers and

737
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: engagee that. You know, maybe they did it a little bit,

738
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 4: but they were content on just knocktting the shit out

739
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: of each other. I don't know what's the question to

740
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: be asking me if it was, if it's a smart

741
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: thing to do.

742
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Speaker 6: No, I think we hit on all sides of that.

743
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: I have a lot of different things I want to

744
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 6: get to, So I think that's that's pretty good, all right.

745
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 6: So I want to get to Roman Dalids. Hey when

746
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 6: Chris Wyman comes back, and I really hope that he

747
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 6: can go out on his terms and be back for

748
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 6: a fighter two, if not three, right, but one guy,

749
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 6: I think you guys should avoid at least right now,

750
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 6: Roman Dealeds. I'm just saying that tongue in cheek. I

751
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 6: don't know if you froze or you're just stonewalling me,

752
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 6: but uh, I think you should have wiled you.

753
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 4: Get John, You might have locked up a little bit.

754
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: Just repeat that, please, So.

755
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 6: Did you happen to see what Roman Delides did against

756
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 6: Jack Hermanson with that whole calf slicer business? All right,

757
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 6: we're having some technical difficulties, kemflow.

758
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: Can you hear me? I I can hear you was

759
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: freezing up?

760
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 6: Well, what a terrible connection, Well, what a terrible connection.

761
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: In New York we got Cody would like me to

762
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 6: discuss TJ. Dillashaw's retirement with Ray. I don't know if

763
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 6: you saw that can flow.

764
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did reckon hear us. Yeah, so I thought

765
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: that was interesting.

766
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 7: Kind of it makes sense obviously, given the circumstances around

767
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 7: what happened and the fact that he would be gone

768
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 7: for a very long long time.

769
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Speaker 2: It kind of took me by surprise.

770
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Speaker 7: I was not on social media at all yesterday and

771
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 7: someone hit me up about it, and yeah, it's uh,

772
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 7: pretty crazy how quickly it can kind of all end.

773
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 7: But I'm sure has more on that.

774
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm sorry, man, you cut out completely.

775
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't put that on me. Don't put that on me.

776
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 6: Don't put that blame on me.

777
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: I'm not putting no blame on anything I.

778
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Speaker 6: Did, all right, did keed fucking hear me the whole time? No,

779
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 6: I'm just messing with you. So, I mean, I was

780
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 6: trying to say that I hope Chris Widman comes back

781
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 6: and can go out on his terms and fight thrice

782
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 6: in the UFC, if not more times, right, But I

783
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 6: was sort of saying tongue in cheek as a joke.

784
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 6: One guy you should avoid is Roman Deledese. I don't

785
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 6: know if you saw what he was able to do

786
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 6: over the weekend against Jack Hermanson with this calf slicer

787
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 6: business and the TKO. But uh, no, I think this

788
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 6: guy's a real threat at one hundred and eighty five pounds.

789
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 5: Uh.

790
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 6: In a division where a lot of guys have had

791
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 6: a couple of opportunities against at Asania, we now have

792
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 6: a new champ and guys like Andre Muniz and dal

793
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 6: and Uh. I don't know.

794
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 5: I think eighty five is fucking right.

795
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: What do you got?

796
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: Kenny? Can you help me with him today? Please?

797
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: He's very on fire.

798
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 4: He's very cantankerous today.

799
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: We have to see I'm smiling.

800
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 6: Look up, cantankeris Kenny? Am I cantankers?

801
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: Well? No, that's that's maybe energetic.

802
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: Let's say that energetic.

803
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 2: Energetic, but paid.

804
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 6: For my energy. That's what I get paid for.

805
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 4: You got you got superb energy and a gift with words.

806
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 4: I love it. No, Leslie, I thought started out his

807
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: career in the UFC a little slow, But man, is

808
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: he finding his groove. He looks like he's now. He's

809
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: racked up a couple in a row. I think probably

810
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: a couple. I didn't even think he was gonna win,

811
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 4: and uh, man, I don't know he's he's ah, he

812
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: looks like now he's a force to be reckoned with

813
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 4: for sure, And I can't slice. It was like some

814
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 4: old school catch wrestling. Kenny. Yeah, that was pretty cool.

815
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 4: I've seen him, you know, they get got into different

816
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 4: positions in that. But the way he looked it up

817
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 4: and stayed with it was pretty bad. Man.

818
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 6: I do feel a little bit misunderstood by Ray Kenny.

819
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: Right.

820
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 6: Cantankris means disagreeable to deal with contentious peevish, A cantankris argumentative. Man.

821
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 6: I'm just asking questions here and spoke to the conversation.

822
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 4: It's a different tone today, though.

823
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 5: Oh man, oh man, this guy hard man. I'm about

824
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 5: to come up to Garden City, New York.

825
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 6: Man, you know, settle this all right, So here's the question.

826
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 6: So Sergey Pavlovich outstanding heavyweight, Yeah, overwhelming power. I love

827
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 6: calling the guys fights, but if you're if you're preparing

828
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 6: a heavyweight for a guy like this, obviously it depends

829
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 6: on what heavy weight you have. But I don't I mean,

830
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 6: I don't know. It's it's hard not to just fantasize

831
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 6: about a fight between Sergey Pavlovich and Francis and Ghana

832
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 6: because he's gonna go right at him. I mean, there's

833
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 6: a zero percent chance if Sergey Pavlovich fights Francis and

834
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 6: Ghana that you get Francis and Gano versus Derek Lewis. Right,

835
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 6: So if you're training to fight against a guy to

836
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 6: fight Sergey Pavlovich, how do you approach you know, fighting

837
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 6: a tractor trailer like that?

838
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: But you you said that first off, what you said

839
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: is key depending on what heavy weight you have.

840
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, at that, all right, say you have Tom aspinall right,

841
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 6: try to take his ass down by any means necessary.

842
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, And well you got to look at the fight

843
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: and see what you know. Look, if you've got good footwork,

844
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 4: you know, he's a very linear fighter, so we don't

845
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: really know if he gets a slick sponsor in there,

846
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: how he's going to look if a guy can make

847
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 4: a miss and you know, spin him around and you know,

848
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: like again use his angles. But uh, yeah, to meet

849
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 4: him straight in the middle. I mean, like, like you said,

850
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 4: who wouldn't want to see him in a ghano?

851
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 9: Right?

852
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: Because somebody's going down and they're going down quick or

853
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think anybody anticipated what happened with

854
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: Derek Lewis and Gano that first fight, right, Yeah, you know,

855
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 4: maybe that's what that power does to you. You know,

856
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 4: maybe it's stifles in too, but it doesn't look that way.

857
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 4: It looks like he's he's coming right at you. So

858
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: I'd love to see that fight. That would be a

859
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 4: great fight, see.

860
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 6: If I was handicapping Pavlovitch. Moving forward, though, I would

861
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 6: like to have more octagon time with which to work, right,

862
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 6: just to see how maybe he responds to the stool

863
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 6: or some recent adversity which we don't necessarily have.

864
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 5: TJ.

865
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 6: Dillashaw announced his retirement. Cody would like me to get

866
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 6: with you on that. I don't know why. You know,

867
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 6: it's really interesting, right I saw him right after the fight,

868
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 6: and he really seemed firm in his desire to not

869
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 6: go out like that. But I think it's point you

870
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 6: just sort of give into your body, and obviously he

871
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: abused his in more ways than one, and unfortunately for him,

872
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 6: that's a big part of his legacy. I mean, certainly

873
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 6: skill for skill, hart for heart. I have a lot

874
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 6: of respect for the legacy first ray and then can flow.

875
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 6: Any thoughts on Dila Shaw before we move on?

876
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I listen. I think honestly, I think it's

877
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 4: a smart move. I think he's been through a lot

878
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: of turmoil in the last couple of years and he's

879
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 4: probably better off just finding another path in life, you know,

880
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 4: do I think he's successful with one of those ventures,

881
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 4: So that's what I would stick with. But yeah, he's

882
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: put his body through a lot. He was a champion.

883
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 4: I don't think he's got anything to prove, you know,

884
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 4: he's got to overcome the stigma of how he became

885
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: a champion, which I think affects his legacy, you know, hugely.

886
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: But I think, I don't know. I think it's a

887
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: smart move. I think that's a very smart move.

888
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 7: Can flow, and that's kind of luck what we talked

889
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 7: about with with fighters that hang out, hang around for

890
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 7: too long and they don't get the results they want.

891
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 7: I think, you know, for TJ, people are always going

892
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 7: to remember him more for the EPO incident and that stuff,

893
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 7: his last performances, his last couple of performances than what

894
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 7: he did prior to that, you know, for better or worse,

895
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 7: and you know, it's kind of it's unfortunate because he

896
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 7: really was a highly skilled fighter, a very sport fighter

897
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 7: who had a great pedigree. But it all can crumble

898
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 7: down so quickly, whether it's by some of the unfortunate

899
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 7: decisions you make outside of the cage, or you know,

900
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 7: an injury and he will kind of be remembered from both.

901
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 7: It can all crumble down so quickly. So it really

902
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 7: is important that you know, for a fighter, you're making

903
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 7: the right decisions inside and outside of the cage, taking

904
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 7: care of your body the best that you can, making

905
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 7: the right decisions and taking fights, not taking fights get

906
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 7: surgeris when you need to, and not letting things accrue

907
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 7: and build up over time, and now you have this

908
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 7: shortened career. I think it was the right choice for him,

909
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 7: just given the circumstances of what's been going on. He's

910
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 7: already been a champion in the sport, and I think

911
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 7: there's a lot to learn from watching TJ. Dillashoff fights

912
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 7: if you're a fighter out there. But there's also a

913
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 7: lot to learn of what not to do as well.

914
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, really, well, put let me he's jump in the

915
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: I agree it's the situation and the circumstances is why

916
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 4: I'm saying I think it's a small move because, like

917
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: well Kenny said, moving forward, he's lost a couple and

918
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: he's always going to be stigmatized for the epos, the

919
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 4: p d s and but whatever he did b PO.

920
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: But and that's it. I think you're better off getting

921
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: out and hoping people we'll forget, just move on with

922
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 4: another venture.

923
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 6: Yeah. No, I mean life hits hard. Oftentimes I find

924
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 6: myself saying to my wife, you know, one mistake here

925
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 6: or there just changes everything. You know, things are so fragile,

926
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 6: you know, look at the circumstances in James Kraus's life

927
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 6: right now, right as a father of two, just to

928
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 6: sort of put that out there. But in terms of

929
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 6: really quickly, Kenny of TJ. Dillashaw's perceived greatness and his

930
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 6: work ethic right at the very least, the metal he

931
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 6: showed in beating Corey Sandhagen and coming back obviously and

932
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 6: getting through all of those tests, right, does it not

933
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 6: at least give him some peace of mind in retirement

934
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 6: because candidly, like this whole circumstance, you can't quantify how

935
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 6: many years it'll take off a TJ. Dillashaw's life in

936
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 6: terms of the emotional and mental tax that his decisions

937
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 6: have have had on himself.

938
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: Right.

939
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying like, at least for him, if

940
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 6: you're looking to lean into something, right, he did prove

941
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 6: and coming back against the San Haagen, whom we all

942
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 6: love and admire as a fighter. Right, I mean, at

943
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 6: least he has that.

944
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: John, I think that's fair.

945
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 7: You know, it's also how you're able to come back

946
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 7: from dealing with adversity, and he showed that he can

947
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 7: come back.

948
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: He can compete clean.

949
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 7: He has the mindset and the skills to beat a

950
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 7: lot of people in that sport, even up to this

951
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 7: point with all the wrestling he's done, all the combat

952
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 7: sports that he's done over the years. To see him

953
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 7: still compete that well on coming back after all that

954
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 7: negativity and all that adversity, I think is something he

955
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 7: can lean on and at least be proud of it.

956
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: In that regard, I.

957
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 6: Kind of liked this early morning long ago. You know,

958
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 6: he's like, how long we going?

959
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 5: How long we going?

960
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 4: Now?

961
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: Well, Francis Marshall, Kirk Pellegrino is going back to Francis

962
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 6: fire Marshall made his UFC debut. He's twenty three years old.

963
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 6: He started taking privates with Kurt Pellegrino at fourteen. Had

964
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 6: a cup of coffee in the Ring of combat promotion. Ray,

965
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 6: how do you know this? Francis Marshall cat at all?

966
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 6: And I don't know if Yeah, Cody just lacking patients,

967
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 6: just squeezed Ray right out of the shot. I don't

968
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 6: blame it, Cody. We're not going to deal with it.

969
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 6: We dealt with the tardiness off the top. And here

970
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 6: come the minute, man, right, here come all the all

971
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 6: this show's about. I fast forward to the Ray longo minute.

972
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 6: Oh well, you missed a scintillating first thirty minutes of

973
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 6: the show, then, folks, fucking scintillating.

974
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 5: Oh man.

975
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 6: I want to congratulate Angela Hill. Eighteen of her twenty

976
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 6: two UFC fights have gone the distance, including the last nine,

977
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 6: which is pretty miraculous. But man, she's a really good fighter,

978
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 6: and her husband Adam deserves a lot of credit in

979
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 6: terms of the skill development. They have left no stone

980
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 6: unturned and trying to maximize her career, and she's made

981
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 6: a lot of money. I'm happy for her. Aw about

982
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 6: Claig Wheed, a former Ken Flow victim, immortalized right behind Kenny.

983
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 6: As you see, Kenny first busted him up on the

984
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 6: feed and then choked him out, forcing him to tap.

985
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 6: But how about Claike Weed can't get it done against

986
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 6: Scott Holtzman who was just split to say, oh, Hi, Ray,

987
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 6: Hi Ray.

988
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: Very descripture. Ruh. I'm sure ru Claike Weed is happy

989
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 4: about your description of him getting strangled by Ken Flow

990
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: twenty minutes. You couldn't just say lost. They go and

991
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: get take Ris Hey, Man, this is.

992
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 6: The Anak and Florian podcast.

993
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: Key, it's unbelievable show. It's unbelievable what Clakewita has done.

994
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: Man.

995
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 7: The fact that he's going out there and still winning fights,

996
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 7: it's it's very very impressive. And did it against a

997
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 7: guy in Holtzman who you know is a is a

998
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 7: tough out and he made some bad decisions at the

999
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 7: wrong time and they kind of paid for it.

1000
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 6: Uh God, Kenny just takes the spotlight immediately off of himself.

1001
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 6: It is unbelievable. Kenny, this is the Anak and Florian podcast.

1002
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 6: Why would we not put over one of the co hosts? Hey,

1003
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 6: what is that snap crackle, pop Rice Krispies? Right now?

1004
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 6: Is that raised connection? Cody, don't even tell me that's

1005
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 6: raised connection. If that's my connection, I apologize.

1006
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 4: Are you saying I'm not supposed to be the cereal

1007
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 4: right now?

1008
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 6: Kenny? Do you hear that?

1009
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: Nothing? It sounds it does? It sounds like you're chewing

1010
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: on uh gold Ray.

1011
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 6: I love you. We're going to talk to you next

1012
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 6: week unless you have anything else. Who do you like

1013
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 6: talking about un calia Jankohovich?

1014
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: This is all we all we need is Yeah. I

1015
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 4: think that Ank Caliath is just going to be too

1016
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 4: much for him. But all we need is a cane

1017
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: to pull me off the stage right now?

1018
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, my man.

1019
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 6: Well, uh go get an ivy, go pound. We'll talk

1020
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 6: to you next week.

1021
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 7: All right, Thank.

1022
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 4: You, buddy.

1023
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 6: The very long comtut it every week here on the

1024
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 6: Annik and Florian Podcast, and this week incidentally, an unmitigated

1025
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 6: disaster in many respects. All right, I don't even know

1026
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 6: what to say. Congrats to Angela Hill, Congrats to Clay Guida,

1027
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 6: Congrats to the retiring Scott Holtzman, who I know is

1028
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 6: a little bit disappointed with how the Swan song went

1029
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 6: Michael Johnson against Mark Jacasey. I'm not sure you saw

1030
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 6: this deep down the card, but congratulations to MJ still

1031
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 6: getting it done. Ja Casey has been a real problem

1032
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 6: for people of late and he couldn't get going against Johnson.

1033
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 6: Jonathan Pierce. I wish he had gotten a post fight interview.

1034
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 6: He's won five fights in a row man Darren Elkins, Right,

1035
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 6: I mean the face bleeds a lot, folks, but you

1036
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 6: hate to see it. Not Ton Levy, I think is

1037
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 6: the name to keep an eye on. We mentioned Francis

1038
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 6: Marshall Land and Phil row Over. Nico Price happy for

1039
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 6: him in Orlando. He did miss wait, but a big

1040
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 6: moment for Phil Rowe. All right, we got to get

1041
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 6: to where UFC two eighty two selections. Let's get to

1042
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 6: the main event challenge.

1043
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 5: It's the main event challenge. The time is most fish.

1044
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: How do do.

1045
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 5: Everything possible to win?

1046
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 3: It's the main event challenge with John Hannick and Kenny Florian.

1047
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 6: Podcast Brian Brian Petrie at Brian Peatree MM, a host

1048
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 6: of the MMA Takes podcasts. Yes, I mean, what's a

1049
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 6: host to do with that ray longer thing?

1050
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 5: When when the popping started? Now I'm an audio guy, right,

1051
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 5: So when the popping started, I was like, John's about

1052
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 5: the fuck that's it. You handled it well because it

1053
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 5: was very distracting, But that was that was just gold

1054
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 5: right there, because I mean, it's Ray So it's funny.

1055
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 6: But I'm the bad guy, right. This is my personal

1056
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 6: life as well. I'm always the bad guy somehow, someway,

1057
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 6: I'm the fucking bad guy, right, Yep. I don't even

1058
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 6: know what he said. All right, So before we get

1059
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 6: moving on here, Brian, I know you had an active

1060
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 6: board for the UFC Fight Night in Orlando. Any tickets

1061
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 6: that you're particularly proud of or anything you want to

1062
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 6: talk about from last week before we get to the

1063
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 6: pay per view.

1064
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I give out a parlay. I missed the

1065
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 5: parlay by one fight. But then I have a lock partlay.

1066
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 5: I give up three locks on my on my car

1067
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 5: to give a dog to send him home, which actually

1068
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 5: stole from you, John. I apologize, and then and then

1069
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 5: a mortal lock I cast that, and then I hit

1070
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 5: RDA by sub. I just had a really good feeling

1071
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 5: that's what he was going to do. Is you go

1072
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 5: to take Barberina down, who hasn't been subs to twenty ten.

1073
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 5: But he hasn't funny me like Rdier right, and and

1074
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 5: RDA is not gonna do the fucking you know, Homer

1075
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 5: Simpson until you break your hand. He's gonna take him

1076
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 5: down on some of them. And it was a masterclass

1077
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 5: by Hafidosanos, and uh yeah it was. It was that.

1078
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: So I kept it really short, short card for me

1079
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 5: going to Vegas, and we spent a lot of money

1080
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 5: in Vegas this weekend, so I just kept it, kept

1081
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 5: it a little short. But I did hit some plays,

1082
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 5: so that's good.

1083
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 6: So, Kenny, when I suggest that it's like a jiu

1084
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 6: jitsu training camp for Hafayel Dosanjos, do you think that

1085
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 6: like the big focus for him and Andre Peternais there

1086
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 6: real quickly is in that matchup right, like that we're

1087
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 6: gonna this is the strategy. We're just gonna simultaneous whatever

1088
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 6: it takes right to get the fight there. And thereby

1089
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 6: like they do not significantly per se, but a lot

1090
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 6: less striking than maybe they would. They talked about like

1091
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 6: he's doing these abbreviated four to five week training camps

1092
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 6: right now, and I just got to think, I mean,

1093
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 6: he's got the striking repetition. He fucking probably striking in

1094
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 6: his sleep. Like I don't know, I just feel like

1095
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 6: man jiu jitsu all day, fucking grind, take him down,

1096
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 6: fucking choke him out.

1097
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: Now, that was clear. That was the clear path, John.

1098
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 7: I think that if you're talking about approach and playing

1099
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 7: it safe and playing to your strengths and exposing the

1100
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 7: weaknesses and vulnerabilities of your opponents as you should be

1101
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 7: approaching it, that was the smart That was a smart approach.

1102
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 7: I think this is voting well for him, especially given

1103
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 7: his age and his experience level at this point, and

1104
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 7: clearly it worked out.

1105
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 6: I love it. I like one of minus five forty favorite,

1106
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 6: and I have a lot of respect for Barbarina, of course,

1107
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 6: but I like one of minus five forty favorite, and

1108
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 6: good on you. What was the price on the submission ticket?

1109
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 5: It was like plus three twenty is what I got it, Undrea.

1110
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 4: That's wow.

1111
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 5: It's crazy because Barbarina hadn't been you know, he hadn't

1112
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 5: been tested in RDA. As good as he is, you

1113
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 5: don't really see him. And I think his last submission

1114
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 5: was maybe magny at least at one seventy.

1115
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Andre Peternais is a gangster, all right. So

1116
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 6: Santiago Ponzinibio at UFC two eighty two was to face

1117
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 6: Robbi Lawler. Instead it will be the Great White Alex

1118
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 6: Morono who steps in and they'll fight at a catchweight

1119
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 6: of one hundred and eighty pounds. So we're not going

1120
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 6: to pick that fight here today as part of the

1121
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 6: main event challenge. I will say I feel for Ponzanibo.

1122
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 6: He's been looking for that big name opponent in a

1123
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 6: big name fight, and it goes away here. During fight

1124
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 6: week I did text him and he said it's part

1125
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 6: of the game. It seems to be handling it. Well,

1126
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 6: all right, we're gonna begin with a prelim that is

1127
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 6: actually the one that is getting Brian Petrie to Las

1128
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 6: Vegas to see his guy, Chris Curtis, Chris Action Man Curtis.

1129
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 6: Why I want to talk to you about the nickname?

1130
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 6: Why do we not a put it on the front

1131
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 6: and be out of the It should be the action man.

1132
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 6: Chris Curtis would be Chris Action Man Curtis. I need

1133
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 6: you to talk to him about will if if you

1134
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 6: agree with me, I do and can affect change with him,

1135
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 6: I will get it done for broadcast. Don't you agree?

1136
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 4: Or no?

1137
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 5: I do? They all that they Chris Smith, who was

1138
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 5: a gym member who suddenly passed away, or he was

1139
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: Slaughterhouse not the Slaughterhouse. Dom Steele had his own nickname,

1140
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 5: and then Chris went Action Man. I think the it

1141
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 5: was great, but when I first met him, when I

1142
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 5: first started training him, it was the King of Combat.

1143
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 5: That was his nickname then and he still kind of

1144
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 5: goes by that time to time we got to iron

1145
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 5: off the nicknames. Z one hundred percent agree with you?

1146
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 6: John, all right, well I am I adding the King

1147
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 6: of don't don't tell too many people about King of

1148
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 6: Kombat came on the podcast. I believe that was before

1149
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 6: you get biography.

1150
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 5: Right now verified on Instagram. That was his Instagram handle

1151
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 5: was the King of Combat and.

1152
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 6: King of Combat. Chris Curtis. I mean that sounds sounds

1153
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 6: almost better. But unless Action Man was somebody who existed,

1154
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 6: some superhero that I'm not aware of, that you wouldn't

1155
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 6: put a put an article on the front of He's like, guys, really,

1156
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 6: can we move on? But the Action Man Chris Curtis,

1157
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 6: Chris Action Man Curtis, all right, first pick for us

1158
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 6: is going to be Chris Curtis and trenches the plus

1159
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 6: one thirty underdog here in a prelim matchup at middleweight

1160
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 6: against new mansa joking Buckley minus one fifty. If you

1161
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 6: missed walking Buckley's appearance on Blabuhammad's Remember the Show right

1162
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 6: on this channel, you may want check that out. Maybe

1163
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 6: the best guess they've ever had, next to the guy

1164
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 6: who's with him there, Jamal Sweetdreams Hill n UFC appears

1165
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 6: for Buckley five and three in those starts here, Brian Petrie,

1166
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 6: I know you'll have a small ticket on your guy,

1167
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 6: Chris Curtis, What are your thoughts on this one?

1168
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm like a detective solving a crime. I

1169
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 5: feel like I got pictures and red string going all

1170
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 5: over the place. I've been studying Buckley since this fight

1171
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 5: got announced. You know, I'm all in Christie. Actually, mccurtis

1172
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 5: a good friend of mine. If you don't know, we

1173
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 5: trained together. He save my Live, blah blah blah. A

1174
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 5: great guy. I'm gonna see him for the first time

1175
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 5: in a long time since he actually did my He

1176
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 5: was like the first guest in my podcast. Anyway. He's

1177
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 5: seven to one. When I'm in the building. I've seen

1178
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 5: him fight eight live, eight times live. The only loss

1179
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 5: was to one immeasurable La Muhamma and Valparaiso, Indiana a

1180
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 5: long time ago. Yeah, yeah, that's right. So basically what

1181
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: I'm saying is Hockey Buckley's fucked because I'm in the building.

1182
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 5: He's easy gonna be fucked. But no, I love the

1183
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 5: matchup for Chris because Chris is a little undersized for

1184
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 5: eighty five. He's not the biggest guy. He's bricked up.

1185
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: So jaquem Buckley the same Hikeder listened at five ten.

1186
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 5: I don't think they're five ten, but this is a

1187
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 5: good matchup for me. He's coming off the loss of

1188
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 5: Jack Hermanson and it was a frustrating loss. He lost

1189
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 5: a little bit of emotion, you know, his emotions got

1190
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 5: the best of them. Her Manson had a really good

1191
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 5: game plan and it kind of just kind of fell

1192
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 5: apart on him there. And then right after the Rivera fight, though,

1193
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 5: Buckley called out Chris after spending weeks training with him

1194
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 5: in Vegas, and Chris was like, what, like, so, I

1195
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 5: know Chris has a little bit of a chip. I

1196
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 5: know there's been some talks that no one's shooting for takedowns,

1197
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 5: which in thirty eight pro fights, I don't think Chris

1198
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 5: is shot for one takedown. I mean, you can fact

1199
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 5: check me, but I'm pretty sure it's not. But it's simple.

1200
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 5: I think Chris is cleaner walking Buckley's big actions. Everything's

1201
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 5: big with him, and Chris's vision defense and boxing's very

1202
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 5: very clean. I like him to kick a little more.

1203
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 5: I don't want to get too emotional because he got

1204
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 5: really emotional with Ray Cooper fight and it's the only

1205
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 5: time he's ever been knocked out Hockey. Buckley does have

1206
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 5: big knockout power, but when you see him fight a

1207
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 5: really clean striker in his last fight against him and off,

1208
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 5: he tends to be able to get red because of

1209
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 5: the big action. It's a big power. Everything's coming big.

1210
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 5: Nothing's super tight and clean, and I think Chris, and

1211
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 5: with buck not being a good CounterPunch, I think Chris

1212
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 5: is gonna be able to march forward and really put

1213
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 5: on the show here. He starts slow, so I'm looking

1214
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 5: for a third round finish here, and I'm a single

1215
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 5: unit guy. I don't do over three units. Mostly. The

1216
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 5: biggest loss I ever had was six units against Izzy

1217
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 5: in Yambohovich. This is a ten unit play for your boy.

1218
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: I'm putting ten units on Chris Curtis. I'm all in.

1219
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 5: He's dog money. I'm so confident. That's the first thing

1220
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 5: I'm doing when I get the check into my hotels,

1221
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 5: go in the sportsbook place, not bet drinks all me boys,

1222
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 5: Chris Curtis all the way.

1223
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 6: Four figure bet on Chris Curtis. For his guy Brian

1224
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 6: Petrie or excuse me, for his guy, Chris Curtis. I

1225
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 6: like both of these guys. Kenny Action Man twenty nine

1226
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 6: to nine overall is a pro. Your thoughts on him.

1227
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 6: Here's the dog against Joaquin Buckley.

1228
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be an interesting fight.

1229
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 7: I think for me, the difference is going to be footwork,

1230
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 7: and I think that's where Chris kind of struggles a

1231
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 7: little bit. He's a little flat footed, he's not light

1232
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 7: on his feet, tends to kind of move in straight

1233
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 7: lines a little bit. And what I've seen from Joquing

1234
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 7: Buckley is much better footwork.

1235
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: He circles well, he.

1236
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 7: Knows how to get in and get out, and he

1237
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 7: knows how to maximize what he has as far as skills.

1238
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a very close fight.

1239
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 7: I don't see Buckley knocking out Curtis, but I do

1240
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 7: agree with Brian that in some ways, you know, Curtis

1241
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 7: could finish Buckley, however, but I just don't see it happening.

1242
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 7: I think Chris needs to get into range first, and

1243
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 7: I just don't see that happening repeatedly where he's able

1244
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 7: to trap Buckley and land the big shots. I think

1245
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 7: Buckley is going to be a little bit faster as well.

1246
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 7: Uh So I like Buckley here. I think it's going

1247
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 7: to be closed. I think it goes to decision. Give

1248
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 7: me wauquing Buckley here all.

1249
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 6: You have to double your bet two k.

1250
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 5: Now the comments are Kenny Kenny and I agree too much.

1251
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 6: Not now see Kenny has that like lab Mic now.

1252
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 5: On a ship's fancy.

1253
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 6: Oh Jesus man, I had to step in my game.

1254
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 5: It was bad for a little while, all right.

1255
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 6: Next fight for US is going to be a heavyweight prelim,

1256
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 6: the feature prelim at that, at least as the card

1257
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 6: stands right now. Biggie boyd Jarzenio Rosenstrike minus one seventy

1258
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 6: Chris Dacas plus one forty five we'll see if I

1259
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 6: Doacas can pick up the Daccas brothers after Kyle lost

1260
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 6: over the weekend. Speaking of Chris the heavyweight, he's been

1261
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 6: humbled and too straight by contenders Derek Lewis and Curtis Blades.

1262
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 6: That came after he started four and oh in the

1263
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 6: UFC with as many knockouts. On the other side, his

1264
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 6: opponent has started four and oh in the UFC with

1265
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 6: as many knockouts as well. But tough times for both guys.

1266
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 6: They both neede a win. Bry which way you go

1267
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 6: in here? Rosen Strike the favorite, Dacas the underdog.

1268
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that. They both need to win.

1269
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 5: The heavily division is pretty wide open in the In

1270
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 5: the it's a thin division, so they keep fun fighters around, right,

1271
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 5: Chase Sherman's on the roster because he's a fun fighter.

1272
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: Now.

1273
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 5: Rosa Strike has laid some eggs out there, right. He

1274
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 5: has all the tools in the power, but sometimes he

1275
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 5: goes out there and it's a little flat. I think

1276
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 5: he's coming out and going for because he's had Daucas's

1277
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 5: chin's been cracked the last two times out. I don't

1278
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 5: know how you don't go out and be aggressive with

1279
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 5: a kickboxing record against a guy who's probably good to

1280
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 5: try to grapple you. Dawcas has an advantage on the ground.

1281
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 5: But how good is his wrestling? You know, I know

1282
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 5: he's a black belt. What he needs to do is

1283
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 5: he goes in the closet, grab the black belt in

1284
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 5: the back of the closet, dust it off because he's

1285
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 5: gonna need it for this one. Because rosas Truck's power,

1286
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 5: you don't have to hit you cleanly to hurt you.

1287
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 5: And with the confidence level of Daucas right now, I'm

1288
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 5: a little worried about it getting slept, but he's been

1289
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 5: slept by two really good guys, so maybe he's not

1290
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 5: two down on himself. I don't know how mental tough

1291
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 5: he is. This is the way I was gonna take

1292
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 5: a dog shop because I really don't like Rosastruck all

1293
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 5: that much. But you know, it's heavyweights, little gloves, little punches.

1294
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 5: I don't know how good daucas is wrestling is. I'm

1295
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 5: gonna go Roasastruck by Kale, but I don't love it.

1296
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 6: Kenny Chargino Rosenstrike, as I mentioned, started four to zero

1297
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 6: in the UFC. Since he's lost four of six. Stop

1298
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 6: by Alexander Volkov in round one. That was his last fight,

1299
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 6: you and fourth what was his fourth UFC main event.

1300
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think rosen Strike he kind of got

1301
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 6: to go balls to the wall and you know, try

1302
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 6: to knock Doccas's head off. What do you think about

1303
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 6: the heavyweight skid?

1304
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got to do something. And you know Doccas

1305
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 7: is probably in a tough place too, But we got

1306
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 7: to talk about roses Strike. He's in a tough place

1307
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 7: as well. You know, lost his last two fights. Hasn't

1308
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 7: gone well for him. I think that, you know, he

1309
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 7: has shown toughness in the past, you know, especially against

1310
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 7: Curtis Blades, who is a tough matchup for anyone in

1311
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 7: the headweight division. And I couldn't agree more with Brian

1312
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 7: Doccas has to go out there and take him down.

1313
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 7: Is he a great wrestler. I don't think so. But

1314
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 7: is he good enough to take rosen Strike down? I

1315
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 7: think so so. I think that he's got to play

1316
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 7: it smart here, has to pick and choose when and

1317
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 7: where he strikes with rosen Strike. I like him in

1318
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 7: the underdog spot here, take him down and look for

1319
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 7: a win on the ground.

1320
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 6: Chris love it all right, next up, huge fight at featherweight.

1321
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 6: I think I actually got chills a little bit. This

1322
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 6: one's on pay per view. Fourteenth ranked Ilia Topuria minus

1323
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 6: one forty five, number nine Bryce Mitchell the plus one

1324
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 6: twenty five underdog on Draftking Sportsbook.

1325
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 4: Right now.

1326
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 6: Topouria really has a way about him and a wisdom

1327
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 6: that belies his age. He's twenty five years old, He's

1328
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 6: twelve and oh four and know in the UFC, Bryce

1329
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 6: Mitchell's fifteen and one twenty seven and one combined. For

1330
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 6: these guys, Kenny neither man has tasted defeat in the UFC.

1331
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 6: Something has got to give Mitchell Topuria flow willly with

1332
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 6: you which way you go in here with the featherweights.

1333
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 7: Extremely interesting fight. I love this fight. I'm so glad

1334
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 7: it's come to fruition. Bryce has been looking for a

1335
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 7: big fight, and I think this is just that. Ilia

1336
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 7: Topouria is a guy that has shown his toughness in

1337
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 7: the past. You know, he has shown that he can

1338
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 7: come back from adversity. He knows how to deal with that.

1339
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 7: There are times where I see him a little tentative

1340
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 7: and he waits, and sometimes he needs to get hit

1341
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 7: or rocked to get back into the fight. You don't

1342
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 7: want to do that again. Someone like Bryce Mitchell. Mitchell

1343
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 7: is a finisher through and through. He's a guy that

1344
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 7: once he has you hurt, he will take advantage of that.

1345
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 7: And I think that Bryce has tools on the ground

1346
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 7: as well where he can give to Pouria a lot

1347
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 7: of trouble. However, I think that to Pouria, if he

1348
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 7: goes out there and fight smart, I think to Pouria

1349
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 7: wins this fight.

1350
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: I think he's a little cleaner with his striking.

1351
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 7: I think his wrestling is good enough to stop some

1352
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 7: of those double legs or at least a just over

1353
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 7: time to Bryce Mitchell's takedowns. I think Bryce is a

1354
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 7: good takedown artist because of his speed, he has very

1355
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 7: good timing. He knows how to get in on your legs.

1356
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 7: But I don't know this. This is the trickiest fight

1357
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,959
Speaker 7: for me on the card. I think of who to pick,

1358
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 7: but I like Iliot Tapouria here to win this fight.

1359
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 7: I love Bryce Mitchell, I love what he's doing out there,

1360
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 7: and I would love to see him win this fight.

1361
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 7: But I think this is a tough one for him

1362
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 7: here against Toporia.

1363
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this, I'm gonna keep rolling since John's

1364
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 5: off the scream here, but we'll just keep going.

1365
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 6: Uh.

1366
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 5: This fight's incredible. I mean, I mean every time, you

1367
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 5: know what, every time I think of Bryce Mitchell, I

1368
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 5: think of when he gets on the microphone. Every time

1369
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 5: I get on his microphone, I'm mnta say, Arkansas. I

1370
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 5: think it's just the best thing ever. I couldn't be

1371
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 5: further from different from each other. There's a UFC produced

1372
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 5: video where Bryce Mitchell's feeding his cows and water and

1373
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 5: his cows and Torporio is getting his haircut for the

1374
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 5: fourth time that week and getting his beard trimmed up.

1375
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 5: You know, it's a pretty boys in Spain. I love

1376
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 5: this fight and I think both fighters are really good.

1377
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 5: Lover hate him. Bryce Mitchell is a good fighter. He's

1378
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 5: almost a throwback fighter, you know what I mean, Like,

1379
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 5: you know what he's gonna do, and it's hard to

1380
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 5: stop it. Like Edson Barboza went in there knowing, I

1381
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 5: gotta stop this guy's stak down. I'm a demolism on

1382
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 5: the feet, got dropped on the feet and then just

1383
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 5: couldn't hand him on the ground. To Worrio though, is

1384
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 5: that if you ask him my Twitter to Poria. Is

1385
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 5: he's already the champion. They love this guy. They're looking

1386
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 5: at this load number, they're loading up. I'm not surprised

1387
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 5: if he gets higher here as a fight week goes on,

1388
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 5: because he has all the towns, or he's twenty five

1389
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 5: years old. He's been impressive. Greca Roman background kind has

1390
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 5: trained all over, was in Georgia, now in Spain. But

1391
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 5: I question is he drinking his own compliment juice just

1392
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 5: a little bit too much? Right? And that could be

1393
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: a good thing because then you can get this air

1394
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 5: of invincibility. You're a young guy. You can go, hey,

1395
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 5: I'm untouchable, or maybe he thinks he's untouchable. And then

1396
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 5: he's going against a guy named Bryce Mitchell who's going

1397
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 5: to come in there and ruin all that. To Poria

1398
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 5: is better on the feet. I think he's more powerful.

1399
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 5: I think he's faster. I think he's explosive. He does

1400
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 5: have a good Greka Roman background. With that being said,

1401
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 5: he should clean up in round one and we should

1402
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 5: go have drinks by, you know, by the main event

1403
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 5: right now. Wrong, that's a wrong because this is MMA

1404
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 5: and then tangibles matter, and I think Bryce Mitchell is

1405
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 5: going to go in there with his Camo shorts, and

1406
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 5: I think he's going to push a pace that to

1407
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 5: PORI doesn't like. I think it's it's going to be

1408
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 5: a very scary first round for Bryce Mitchell. And then

1409
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 5: when ta Poria meets meets that second round if he

1410
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 5: survived a lot of the onslaught that Bryce brings, the

1411
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 5: pressure of the wrestling, the grappling, and this overall Cardio

1412
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 5: because Bryce is Cardio is elite. We'll see what kind

1413
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 5: of fighter he is because everyone's already crowning him as

1414
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 5: the next CHAMPI at one forty five. With that being said,

1415
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 5: I'm going Bryce Mitchell. I'm locked in on him. I've

1416
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 5: been bouncing back forth all week. I think to Pooria

1417
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 5: is highly skilled, but I'm gonna go old school Bryce

1418
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 5: Mitchell for a decision win. I don't think there's gonna

1419
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 5: be a finish here. I think it's gonna be a

1420
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 5: decision win.

1421
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 4: All right.

1422
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 6: Sorry, I'm on my phone for the rest of the show.

1423
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 6: My WiFi just went at my house, so bear with

1424
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 6: me whatever it takes to get the rest of the

1425
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 6: show and the can Fellas. At middleweight, Dracus du plus

1426
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 6: b minus one sixty five Darren Till plus one forty

1427
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 6: Till back for the first time in more than a year.

1428
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 6: He was submitted by Derek Runson September twenty twenty one.

1429
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 6: His opponent here of the South African pretty violent VP.

1430
01:07:58,960 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 6: Who do you have here?

1431
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1432
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 5: So I'm a Darren Till guy. I'm a big supporter

1433
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 5: and we have fallen on hard times. People have jumped

1434
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 5: off the bandwagon. After the Derek Brunson fight, Darren Till

1435
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 5: looked a lot of shape, he looked injured, he fought.

1436
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 5: It seemed like he fought for a paycheck, which isn't good.

1437
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 5: And that's the ego of them, that's the confidence that

1438
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 5: I love. But he's been spending a lot of time

1439
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 5: in swite and I know he finished his camping Tiger

1440
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 5: more time muy Ti And those are gyms that you

1441
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 5: don't go to half ass. You got to work at

1442
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 5: those gyms. You gotta be in shape. So I'm banking

1443
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 5: on that he's in shape for this because I am

1444
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: a Till Ride or Die Justice Duplessi, which I fucking

1445
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 5: nail boys. This guy's a killer. He has split fights

1446
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 5: for Roberto Solditch, who if you ask the hipsters in

1447
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 5: MMA this guy's the best one eighty five in the world.

1448
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 5: I think he's very good. I don't think he's better

1449
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 5: than Izzy. But if you ask the hipsters out there,

1450
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 5: all we love Robert, you know solditch either way, he's

1451
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 5: got split winds, you know, split fights over him and

1452
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 5: du Plus he's a very good fighter. He's a killer.

1453
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 5: He mixes everything up well. He could have three finishes

1454
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,919
Speaker 5: in the UFC if Tavars wasn't so tough. Knocked Tavars

1455
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 5: around a lot. This guy has powered problem is he

1456
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 5: rushes in a lot. I see him, let's see a

1457
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 5: lot head up a little bit, and I just feel

1458
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 5: like Darren Hill's piston of a left hand can catch him. Now,

1459
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 5: Till's not the best finishing in the world. He's hurt

1460
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 5: a lot of people and hasn't been able to put

1461
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 5: him away. But this is the guy who went five

1462
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 5: competitive rounds where Robert Whitaker in kind of a striking

1463
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 5: chess match where they both dropped each other. That's the

1464
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 5: darreuntil I need here, the guy that's not willing to

1465
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 5: get taken down, accept the ground position. This is what

1466
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 5: I need Darun Hill here, And I'm a Darren Hiel guy,

1467
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 5: So I'm going to go for my wallet's sake. I

1468
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 5: hope he's motivated, and I hope he's uninjured because I'm

1469
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 5: going till by decision.

1470
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I canceled. What do you have with the middleweight?

1471
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, Ran, I think that's a great breakdown. I think

1472
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 7: the other thing for me is what has Darren Dial

1473
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 7: done since his last fight? Has he identified his weakness

1474
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 7: of the grappling skill and improved that tremendously. He's been

1475
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 7: training with Hams at CHIMAIV, He's going over Sweden, He's

1476
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 7: been training in Thailand. I know there's a bunch of

1477
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 7: Russian wrestlers, Dagistani wrestlers that are over there.

1478
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: I hope he's working with.

1479
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 7: Those guys because for me, that is how he wins

1480
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 7: this fight, if he's able to keep it on the

1481
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 7: feet and control the pacing against duplus C, who not

1482
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 7: the most technical fighter, but man, he will throw everything

1483
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 7: at you all the time, non stop. So just puts

1484
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 7: his foot on the gas and he can beat up

1485
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 7: a lot of guys just based on that alone.

1486
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: So I think Darren's the more technical fighter, but it.

1487
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 7: All comes down to his ability to stop the takedown

1488
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 7: and counter duplus c as he rushes forward, Brian, I

1489
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 7: agree with you. I think he rushes forward. That's where

1490
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 7: he's got to take advantage of that and control the pace.

1491
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 7: So I like Darren Till. I haven't lost faith in

1492
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 7: him yet. I agree with you here this time we

1493
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 7: agree Darren Till co.

1494
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Speaker 6: All right, Tomain event a lightweight Patty the Batty Timbletton

1495
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 6: minus two thirty Jared Gordon plus one ninety five Jared Gordon.

1496
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 6: Since I said the line to you, fellas can now

1497
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 6: be had plus two, fifteen and h depending on where

1498
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 6: you shop. Twelfth UFC appearance overall for Flash he's won

1499
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 6: three or four. Patty Piblet three and zero. In the UFC,

1500
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 6: he's won five straight overall, Brian Petro, your thoughts on

1501
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 6: the co main events.

1502
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so a lot of people MMA purists are getting

1503
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 5: a littleupset that Patty got the co main event. Shut up,

1504
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 5: this guy's electric, right, this is what they want. Like

1505
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 5: is he going to be a world champion? I don't know,

1506
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 5: but he is a fun guy to watch inside and

1507
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 5: outside the cage. Comine and vump bump. I love now.

1508
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 5: I gotta tread lightly because I know Jared Gordon is

1509
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 5: close friends with Blao, who's a very close member that

1510
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 5: he's a part of this channel, and I love blat right,

1511
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 5: and Jared Gordon seems like a great guy everything he's

1512
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 5: been with, so so I'm gonna treade lightly. But I

1513
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 5: just I got a call it like I sees it,

1514
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 5: and I think Patty Kao is four out of five

1515
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 5: Jared Gordon loss has come from KO. I think Jared's

1516
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 5: gonna want to take Patty down and use that smothering

1517
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 5: ground game, because that's how Patty has lost in the past.

1518
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 5: Off his back hasn't been great, but it's Kenny pointing

1519
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 5: out the last time he broke down at Patty fight.

1520
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 5: He's in San Diego work with Justin Flores. He's fixing

1521
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 5: those things. And Patty, even though his striking is a

1522
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 5: little harky jerky for me, his chins in the air,

1523
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 5: his ticks are good and he's explosive. He does have power.

1524
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 5: Regardless of how bad it looks or not how great

1525
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 5: it looks, there's power there. So sorry, Blao, I'm gonna

1526
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 5: go Patty by Ko probably early, and to fight. I'm

1527
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,440
Speaker 5: looking to play myself.

1528
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 6: And that's another reason why Brian Peter's going to Vegas

1529
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 6: see Patty Pimblet's fight live. Darren so as well. Can't flow.

1530
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 7: This is a very interesting fight. I do think there's

1531
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 7: a lot of value in Jared Gordon. Jared Gordon and

1532
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 7: his ability to potentially stop those takedowns and smother Patty.

1533
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: Patty can knock him out.

1534
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 7: I think that his speed is going to be significant

1535
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 7: over Jared Gordon, and Jared's not the fastest guy, and

1536
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 7: sometimes it takes Jared a little bit to get into it.

1537
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes it takes Patty a little bit to get into it.

1538
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 7: In round one, We've seen Patty have some you know,

1539
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 7: struggle a little bit early, but then once he gets

1540
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 7: his birth the man, he's tough to stop. I think,

1541
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 7: if I'm Patty Pimblin, I'm looking at that Grant Dawson fight,

1542
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 7: I'm looking at that fight to see and find a

1543
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 7: way to beat Jared Gordon. I think if he can

1544
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 7: get around to the back of Jared Gordon, that's where

1545
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 7: he can win this fight. So look for some scrambles,

1546
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 7: look for the takedown, scramble to his back, hop up

1547
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 7: on there, and look for that rear naked choke. So yeah,

1548
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 7: but if Jared's able to stop the takedowns and get

1549
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 7: on top, I think Jared wins his fight. So I

1550
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 7: do think there's value on Jared. I think Patty's speed

1551
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 7: and his ground game will most likely be the difference.

1552
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 7: I'm not sure if he gets a finish, but he

1553
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 7: shouldn't let Jared hang out for too long because Jared

1554
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 7: tends to get stronger as the fight goes on.

1555
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 2: So but I'll take Patty here as well.

1556
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 6: Very excited to see it all play out and finally

1557
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 6: main event for the undisputed the UFC light Heavyweight title.

1558
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 6: Maga mat unk Eliath looking at capstone his winning streak

1559
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 6: with a UFC light heavyweight title. He's won nine in

1560
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 6: a modest two forty five former Champi Yombohovich plus two

1561
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 6: h five. As you guys, Nobohovich did get that win

1562
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 6: over Alexander Rockets, serving to position him for this fight.

1563
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 6: That was to be the comin event. Now it is

1564
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 6: for the undisputed UFC light Heavyweight Championship. We will see

1565
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 6: if Wuhovich can become a two time champion. Here, Brian Petrie,

1566
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 6: we will start with you. You going with the favorite

1567
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 6: or the dog in the UFC Light Heavyweight title fight

1568
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 6: this weekend.

1569
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 5: So being in the buildings for Vegas, my first ever

1570
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 5: Vegas fight, I am sad that I'm not getting near

1571
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 5: Glover too, because that's my fight of the year and

1572
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 5: I want to see a legend like Glover because he's

1573
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 5: not having any more left. But however, I think this

1574
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 5: is a great new main event. I think, you know,

1575
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 5: we've all been praising an Kaliath for a while. He's

1576
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 5: the next one. He's the next guy, and he is

1577
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 5: getting a former champion of Whovich. He's a grinder. I

1578
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 5: mean this guy. If you're a struggling a UFC fighter

1579
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 5: right now, you got to look at Yomblehovich's career early

1580
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 5: on and be like, this is a motivation for me.

1581
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 5: This is all you gotta do is work your ass

1582
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 5: off and get there. This guy was two and four

1583
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 5: at one point over six fights. No want to he's

1584
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 5: gonna be champion, and he became champion. And he's looked good.

1585
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 5: He looked good against Alex Jenner Wreckage. He looked like

1586
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 5: his boxing, which is israel Asania described it as herky, jerky,

1587
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 5: little off timing. It works for him. But you know,

1588
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 5: I have under underestimated y On for a long time,

1589
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 5: and I guess I might be doing it here because

1590
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 5: this is about as close as a lock as it

1591
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 5: gets to me with An Caliath I Thinkank Caliath is

1592
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 5: head and shuttles above everyone besides maybe YERI in this division.

1593
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 5: I think his wrestling is on point. I think his

1594
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 5: striking is on point. My only critique of him is

1595
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 5: he's had a couple of dead Man events. He had

1596
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,759
Speaker 5: three main events where that you know, especially the Thiago

1597
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 5: Santos fight, were like, do more, you can do more,

1598
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 5: and I know Sia Santo's got bricks for hands, and

1599
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 5: you got to be a play a little safe. But

1600
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 5: then he comes back and finishes Anthony Smith. Listen, I

1601
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 5: like Ank calif here. I mean, I'm seeing the board well, folks,

1602
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,799
Speaker 5: I'm seeing the board well, boys. And I think caliath

1603
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 5: Is is close to a lock as I got here.

1604
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 5: I think he could finish him late. Yan is extremely

1605
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 5: tough and durable. I don't not going to touch the props.

1606
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 5: This is a part for me. I'm gonna go and calive.

1607
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 6: All right, pretty convictedly at that camp flow. What do

1608
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 6: you have for us on the title fight.

1609
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 7: So Uncle Iav has had some duds, mainly because he's

1610
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 7: not the guy who exposes himself. He doesn't go out

1611
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 7: there and you know, throw caution to the win and

1612
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 7: just start throwing wildly. He's very calculated with every single

1613
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 7: thing he does, and I think that's extremely important in

1614
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 7: this fight, because Yan would take advantage of someone like that.

1615
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 7: Yan will take advantage of mistakes. That that's where I

1616
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 7: think Yon really shines, and I don't think he has

1617
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 7: that here against Unclelive. And I don't think he's got

1618
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 7: the restling advantage here either with Unclelith. Uncle Ive can

1619
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 7: win this fight by striking, and I think he can

1620
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 7: win this fight by outpointing you, taking you down, controlling

1621
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 7: the action, controlling the ground game, taking away a lot

1622
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 7: of the submissions of Yang Bohovich. So for Auncliath, I

1623
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 7: think that, you know, I see him winning this fight.

1624
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 2: I think there there's some value in Bohovich.

1625
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 7: I just don't see Uncle Ive making major mistakes or

1626
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 7: even maybe little mistakes that Jan Bohovich is able to expose.

1627
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 7: So I like Uncle Ive here. He's going to be

1628
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 7: a guy that is going to be very difficult to beat.

1629
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 7: I've been watching him for a very long time. This

1630
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 7: is a very intelligent and skilled fighter.

1631
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 6: I will see wear it closes, Brian, appreciate your patience

1632
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 6: today and have a great week, and at least for

1633
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 6: a handshake if nothing else.

1634
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 5: Brother, absolutely, I'll see you boys.

1635
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 6: All right there, he is great, great with us for

1636
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 6: the main eventch challenge. All right, I'm doing the podcast

1637
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 6: on my phone for the first time in three hundred

1638
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 6: and seventy five episodes. But before we go, we got

1639
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 6: to do the Marrow seconds here. See if somehow Cody

1640
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 6: has an NFL prediction or any great insight. You got

1641
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 6: any bonus information for us? I know Sergey Pavlovitch want

1642
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 6: a bonus. Steven Warner, boys, Thompson and Kevin Holland were

1643
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 6: the fight of the night. I'm curious who got the

1644
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 6: other performance bonus. Probably had to be Roman Dalides right

1645
01:17:55,400 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 6: with that, caff Slicer Tko. Good to see you, by

1646
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 6: the way, Cody, good.

1647
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 9: To see you as well. Good to see as well.

1648
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 9: I'm chosing up this info for you. The Pavlovich with

1649
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 9: the performance the night in Roman to lead say with

1650
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 9: performance of the night, You're correct.

1651
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 6: Damn Roman, don't come to my house, buddy, I I

1652
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 6: it's all good, all right, Cody, what do you have, kid?

1653
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 9: I know that's the last guy you'd want showing up

1654
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 9: to here Christmas dinner.

1655
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 5: Hun invited.

1656
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 9: I mean you take a seat right and take a

1657
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 9: seat at the head of the table.

1658
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 6: He's invited.

1659
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 9: Uh so my NFL picks, John, I'm back. I mean,

1660
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 9: I'm I've been making some moves right, Like I texted

1661
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 9: your brothers. Unofficial pick was on the Pats two weeks ago,

1662
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 9: and that hit. The official pick that I put out

1663
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 9: was on the lines of Thanksgiving. That hit, of course

1664
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 9: it did. So we're we're running on a nice hot

1665
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 9: streak here. We're, you know, making some moves. Now I

1666
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 9: get my new red Sox. I got this at Logan Airport.

1667
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 9: Last time I was back, sat out of the Tom

1668
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 9: Act for two and a half fucking hours. So if

1669
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,919
Speaker 9: you work at Boston Logan Airport and the Jeff Blue department,

1670
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 9: fuck you.

1671
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 6: Yep, Jeff Blue is the problem. With all due respects,

1672
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 6: I like Jeff.

1673
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 9: I was watching the Packers versus Eagles on a little

1674
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 9: six by six screen. It was a great It was

1675
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 9: a great time.

1676
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, always delayed to me worse half the time. What

1677
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 6: do you have for us?

1678
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 9: So, just a couple of notes from the MMA space

1679
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 9: Cameron Simon samon am I saying that correctly, it looks

1680
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 9: like a dragon ball Z name. He makes his UFC

1681
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 9: debut this weekend. He's the protege of Drake's dupless which

1682
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 9: I think is pretty interesting. I mean he's not that old, right,

1683
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 9: We're at that stage now where like there was photos

1684
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 9: of him at dupless C's fights when he was like twelve.

1685
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 9: So we're in that stage a fighter where it's just

1686
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 9: like if you're making the UFC, you know, like an

1687
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 9: Aaron Blanchfield, Like you started doing this at ten years old.

1688
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 9: You know, it wasn't Kenny picking this up for fun

1689
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 9: at seventeen, you know, trying to get some money down

1690
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 9: at the local Dover forum.

1691
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 6: I'm twenty one years old. Nickname MSP, so we got

1692
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 6: SPGB and now we have but yeah, born December twentieth

1693
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 6: in the year two thousand and making his debut this

1694
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 6: weekend against how about this nickname Ready the guy he's fighting,

1695
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 6: also making his debut undefeated. They're both six and l

1696
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 6: But Steven Obi Wan Shanoby the pillow.

1697
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 2: Right, Oh that's good.

1698
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 6: He used to just be Obi Wan Shanoby and then

1699
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 6: he added the pillow to it, so now he's Obi

1700
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 6: Wan Shanoby the pillow.

1701
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 9: Well, and you know what the best thing about that

1702
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Speaker 9: is is you're on Disney, so you can say that.

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01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 9: If you're on any other promotion, like, you can't you

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Speaker 9: get copyright.

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Speaker 5: Flag for that.

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Speaker 9: You can't say that.

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Speaker 4: Well there you go.

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Speaker 9: Uh one last point of the MMA news before we

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Speaker 9: get to the football pick that everyone's waiting for, wishing

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Speaker 9: Dustin Poie speedy recovery from a nasty staff infection. He's

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Speaker 9: in the hospital right now, you know, dealing with this.

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Speaker 9: I'm showing it on the screen, wishing a speedy recovery

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Speaker 9: to him. And then, of course, you know, because Dustin

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Speaker 9: and Connor have their great friendship, you know, Dustin Derk

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Speaker 9: Connor offered some nice words, so I want to just

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Speaker 9: bring that up here. He'llip soon scruffy nickers, And that,

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Speaker 9: of course led to a little back and forth between

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Speaker 9: Connor and Pourier. I couldn't find any live lines on that,

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Speaker 9: but what's your guys appetite for that? To seeing another

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Speaker 9: Connor Poier fight.

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Speaker 6: Well, I guess i'll lead. I would like to see

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Speaker 6: a fresh fight for Connor. We've seen that three times,

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Speaker 6: certainly one of them was back in twenty fourteen. But

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Speaker 6: I would like to see a fresh matchup for both guys.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how Kemflow feels about it. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'll still show up and call a fourth meeting, but

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Speaker 6: I'd like to see some fresh.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's a fight that we need to

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Speaker 7: see for the next one. It is something that I

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Speaker 7: think is interesting for a fight later on down the line,

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Speaker 7: but not for Connor's first fight back off the injury.

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Speaker 9: Now, well, I can help would agree with you there.

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Speaker 9: I would love to see a new fight. The last

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01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 9: one closed Connor was a plus one oh five pot

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Speaker 9: minus one forty. Got to think if that fight happens again,

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Speaker 9: Poitier is deeper minus two hundred minus two fifty, you know,

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Speaker 9: especially given the injury.

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Speaker 6: Not that high. No, no way, it'll get right.

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Speaker 5: That's okay.

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Speaker 9: You're contractionally obligated from discussing this anyway. So so last point,

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Speaker 9: of course, is the NFL cover the NFL pick of

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Speaker 9: the week. Everybody's money making. Kenny has actually paid for

1743
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Speaker 9: True's entire college fund with my picks by fading me,

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Speaker 9: so you know, good on you there. The pick for

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Speaker 9: me this week is going to be the Bengals minus

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Speaker 9: six against the Browns. I didn't think that the Browns

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Speaker 9: were playing well at all. The Bengals look like they're

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01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 9: hitting all cylinders. Joey Cool looks like the best QB

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Speaker 9: in the NFL. He smoked the Chiefs on Sunday when

1750
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 9: what was a closer game on paper than it was

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Speaker 9: actually in person. So I think the Bengals are going

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Speaker 9: to pull it out on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: That's the Pickugh, I like it. I think Cincinnati is

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Speaker 6: a team to ride going forward. All right, thank you

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