1 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: And we're welcome you back into the Dog Bowl here 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: in Barria, getting you ready for Browns and Broncos Sunday four, 3 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: another four o'clock kickoff. Only a couple of them left 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: before we go back to our regular one o'clock time 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: slots on. Jason Gibbs alongside Nick Shook, Andrew Gribble and 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: our new guest Uh and guest host John Greco will 7 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: join us former Brown's offensive lineman Um, A man of 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: many traits on the offensive line. Is there a spot 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: you didn't play? I did not play right tackle. I 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: played that action in an NFL game at the other four, 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: but right tackle, I can honestly say I've never played 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: in a NFL game, maybe preseason, but not an actual 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: All right, well, we're happy to have you and John 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: will join us every week on the best podcast available. Guys, 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Real quick, just a quick takeaway from you all on 16 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: the on the lost to New England. Positive that you 17 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: might take out of this game, out of that game, 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: and something that we can look forward to here in 19 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: these final nine games that we can build off of 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: that game. I'll start with you. The positive I'll take 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: away is that your run defense has greatly greatly improved 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: for one week, and I think that's been an issue 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: for this team sporadically throughout the season. Obviously, San Francisco 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: ran all over you. Seattle had a lot of success 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: running the ball. The Patriots didn't. It was it was 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: by far the best you did against the run. And 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: I think that really had you not had that turnover 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: stretch to start the game, you you were in for 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: a pretty close back and forth game because you were 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: shutting down that run. So that would that would be 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: a positive. The negative is the easy one. You had 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: a stretch in the first quarter that was the worst 33 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: stretch that you've had all season. Went from zero to 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: went from three to seventeen in a hurry. And you can't, 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean most teams, you can't come back from a 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: seventeen point deficit against the Patriots. I mean, forget about it. 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: You have to play perfect football map point forward, and 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: it's really hard to do. Rick. I think I would, 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: you know, kind of piggybacking off of that was with 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: the run defense was uh, you know, being in the 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: press confer or in the press box and listening to 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots beat reporters, they marveled at the 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: fact that the Patriots couldn't really do that much offensively 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: for the majority of the game. Now, they did go 45 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: down the field thanks to the long screen pass to 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: James Bide ended up scoring a touchdown to put the 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: lead back out to two touchdowns in the third quarter, 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: But for a lot of that game, I just sat 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: there and listened to them talk about how the Patriots 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: offense just couldn't do much against this Browns defense, which 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: is a credit to them. And you know, you don't 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: like to play the what if game, but if you 53 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: do take away even two of those turnovers, that game 54 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: is probably much more manageable and you're in it longer um. 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's good moving forward, because 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: you're not gonna play a team of the caliber of 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots every week, so you know, maybe you'll get 58 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: away with the mistake ers. You obviously want to clean 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: up the majority of them. But nobody's perfect, and expecting 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: to play perfect football is just unrealistic. So that's the positive. 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: The negative, you know, you can't avoid the turnovers. I 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: mean that you can't look anywhere else really than the 63 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: turnovers um and maybe not being able to take advantage 64 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: of that last possession before halftime. But you know, like 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Baker said yesterday, they got a penalty kind of put 66 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: them in an unfortunate situation. You don't want to give 67 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Patriots of ball back, so that's understandable, but there were 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: opportunities didn't take advantage of them and also put yourself 69 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: into deep of a hold of climb out of Yeah, 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: I agree with you guys, and uh, you know, I'll 71 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: say flipping the sides of the ball. I'm gonna talk 72 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: about a little bit of their run offense. I've been 73 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: impressed all year with the rushing attack and it's been, um, 74 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's been positive for the most part. And 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: uh over a hundred yards. I think they're averaging over 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: on ten I think now, Um, but that's that's a 77 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: recipe for winning football. When you couple that with the 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: improved rush defense that you guys are talking about, they 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: can eliminate some of those uh turnovers, some of the penalties. 80 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a strong foundation to put 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: a great product on the field in this second half 82 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: of the season. Is there often to be said, um 83 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: that there were places to be made offensively, and you 84 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: know Todd Monkin said it today the offensive coordinator and 85 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: his weekly press conference here New England. Didn't change anything. 86 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: They didn't really do anything different throughout the game. They 87 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: didn't adjust. We had opportunities, we just didn't make them. Yeah, 88 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: that's that's probably the most disappointing things as they all, Um, 89 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: you know how to look at this week. Um, you know, 90 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: when a team is not changing, when they're not adapting, 91 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: and you're you're still able to run the ball and 92 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: do the things that you're practicing all week, makes a 93 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: little bit easier on you because you don't have to 94 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: make those game time adjustments. But you know, when you're 95 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: not making those big splash plays, those big opportunities that 96 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: really you've executed all week in practice, you know, that's 97 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: that's how you fall a little bit short. So I 98 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: know that they're just trying to keep attention to detail 99 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: moving forward and they're gonna try to make those big 100 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: plays this coming weekend. The Patriots only out gained the 101 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: Browns by eighteen yards. I think that entire game, and 102 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: that's just that shows how if the penalties are just 103 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: killing you, I mean they're just absolutely like it's made 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: almost every drive seemed like an adventure even though when 105 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: you score points on because a lot of these drives 106 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: where you have score points you have had to overcome 107 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: penalties to do so. You almost need these big plays 108 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: just to get first downs. And it's those drives where 109 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: you move the ball and you don't have any penalties. 110 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: It really stands out there, like, oh that was that 111 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: was a lot easier than most of the other has been. 112 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: And I think you have three offensive pass interferences in 113 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: the game, somewhere more questionable than others. But thirteen penalties 114 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: you're not gonna win, especially you had that penalty disaster 115 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: game to start the season. Eighteen penalties. A lot of 116 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: those were the unsportsman likes, the emotional penalties. None of these, 117 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: none of those thirteen were this. These were just procedural 118 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: five yard, ten yard at a time penalties. But those 119 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: are enough to just kill you and put you behind 120 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: the six. And just that was that defensive drive where 121 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: you you kept giving them first downs with those penalties 122 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: and even though you didn't give up a points there 123 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: just put your defense on the field for way too long. 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: And yeah, this is a trend. I mean they even 125 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: there was a defensive drive against at all two weeks 126 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: ago where they did the same thing where they gave 127 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: them multiple first downs as they moved the ball down 128 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: the field and went down scored. And it just really 129 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: comes down to just discipline and execution. Discipline in not 130 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: jumping off sides except for the time when you're told 131 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: to jump off sides, which understand that's understandable um and 132 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: execution trying to run a rub route but making contact 133 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: with the defender three yards deep instead of one yard 134 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: and getting flagged for it on an important play on 135 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: third down where you would have picked up a good 136 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: amount of yards and move the sticks. So, uh, you 137 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: hope that you can clean that up. But it's something 138 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: that over time, you know, as it continues to crop up, 139 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: you just you wonder, hey, when are we gonna get this, 140 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: When are we really gonna hone in on this and 141 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: focus and not make these mental errors because these games ahead, 142 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: some of them should be winnable. Obviously, it's the NFL, 143 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: and you know the end of given Sunday and everything else. 144 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: But if you can get out of your own way, 145 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: you should stack some wins together and start to turn 146 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: this season around. It's just a matter of doing it. 147 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks. Let's move on to the Denver Broncos, 148 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: two and six on the football season and a team 149 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: that has fallen on some hard times. Bradley Chop, of course, 150 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: out for the year with the torn a c L. 151 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how he played in the game and 152 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: didn't know it was torn because I know when I 153 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: tore my a c L, I felt like I got shot. Um, 154 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: not that I would know what that feels like, but 155 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: I definitely couldn't walk, uh much less play in the 156 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: basketball game that I was currently playing in. So he's 157 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: out now, Joe Flacco out, and Brandon Allen set to 158 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: make his debut. Here's a guy that's outside of preseason game, 159 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: really hasn't taken any snaps in an NFL game, and 160 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: with a new quarterback making his debut. While you get 161 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: maybe a little excited as a Browns fan, the the 162 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: the guy, the analyst inside me says, here's the guy 163 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: we don't know anything about. What if he comes out 164 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: and lights the world on fire. That's because there is 165 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: no tape on him. And until there's tape on him, 166 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: is that a situation that you've got to be very 167 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: leary of going into the game. Yeah, I think so. 168 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, anytime you're playing a team that has their 169 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: back against the wall and a lot of adversity in 170 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: their building and surrounding their organization, you don't know what 171 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: team you're gonna get. You're gonna get the team that 172 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: comes out firing on all cylinders, that's rallying behind a 173 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: first time starting quarterback, or you're gonna get a team 174 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: that just can't handle the adversity and that's just gonna 175 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: keep sputtering. So you got to prepare that you're gonna 176 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: see a team that's undefeated, and you know what that 177 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: being said, you know you're gonna see a game plan 178 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna be quarterback friendly for them. So the easiest 179 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: thing to do is disrupt him, hands in his face, 180 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: hands in the throwing lanes, pressure, try to get him 181 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 1: off of his game, off of his rhythm, because I 182 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: guarantee all week they're working on the running game, which 183 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: has been successful. They're working on quick play action throws 184 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: kind of you know, really um quarterback friendly, offensive line 185 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: friendly plays. That way, it takes a lot off his plate. 186 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: And you know this is a team that is well 187 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: positioned to do that. You know, we obviously know what's 188 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: on the roster upfront, but they've really turned it up 189 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: in the last you know, a couple of weeks. Olivia 190 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: Brian is one specifically. Gribble wrote about it today. You 191 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: can find on Cleveland Browns dot com. Uh some p 192 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: F numbers that kind of illustrate where he's been. He 193 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: was way out of the top ten or fifteen in 194 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: in some key categories, and then the last two weeks 195 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: he's fourth in total pressures generated, he's tied for first 196 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: in QB hurries, He's tied with his teammate Miles Garrett. 197 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: So I mean this is, you know, we're illustrating that 198 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: this is not just a Vernon Uh effort. He's fifth, 199 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: tied for fifth in the NFL and in key plays 200 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: in the past rushing game and and he's tied for 201 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: twenty and overall pass rushing grade, which is a far 202 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: far cry from where he was UH in his first 203 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: five weeks with the team. So basically, this this defensive 204 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: front is really starting to figure it out. They've also 205 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: played really well against the run. There's nembs have backed 206 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: up as well, so you think, well, if you stop 207 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: that run and then you force it onto the shoulders 208 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: of a guy who's never played, you setting yourself up 209 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: for a pretty good day. It's just as long as 210 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: you can do that on a consistent basis and get 211 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: after him early enough and not to let them hang 212 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: around for too long. Let let me talk about something 213 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with the outcome of this game. Uh. 214 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: I was in attendance for Brandon Allen's starting college debut, 215 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: and I will be there for his NFL debut, which 216 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: is maybe the lowest possible claim to fame I can 217 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: never have. But I was in the building when he 218 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: was summoned to start for Arkansas for the first time 219 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: as a freshman two thousand twelve. Uh. You think he 220 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: had some magic maybe, Uh he did not. He was 221 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: ten of eighteen sixty five yards two picks. They lost 222 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: fifties two nothing. So what I'm saying is this is 223 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: a tough spot for brand now and to be in. 224 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: He's been in the league though for four years. This 225 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: is he's played a lot of preseason football. Uh, just 226 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 1: hasn't played a lot with the Broncos. So this is 227 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: something I get. We've we've been on the wrong end 228 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: of some of these miracle starts that the Browns have 229 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: seen over the past years, these guys making their starting debuts. 230 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this is something it's just something you have 231 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: to take advantage of. I mean, he's been on the 232 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Broncos for two months. I mean he was he was 233 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: added to the team after the preseason, so he didn't 234 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: play preseason with the Broncos. They had to make a 235 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: move because Drew Lock was hurt. I mean, you just 236 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: simply have to take advantage of this. And this is 237 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: for an offense that wasn't good with Flacco. I mean, 238 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: so this is something you really have to go in 239 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: and truly sell out against the run, because that's what 240 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: they're pretty good at. I wouldn't say they're great at it, 241 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: and you've got to just take advantage of it and 242 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: make it so this team has to play from behind 243 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: because they're not. They're they're not a good offense when 244 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: the game's that close, and if they're, if they're playing 245 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: from behind, that that's when you can really pin yours back. 246 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: And that's kind of to that point to this is 247 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: a team that with the front office that basically signaled, 248 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, two weeks ago that hey, we know we 249 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: really aren't gonna do much this year. Uh, we're gonna 250 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: trade away our veteran receiver and try and get some 251 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: massets for it as we move forward and give more 252 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: exposure to our younger guys. I would imagine that they 253 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: didn't expect Brandon Allen to be included in that, but 254 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: they do have two really good running backs who are 255 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: promising different styles. Uh. Philip Lindsay is a lot to handle, 256 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: just because he's so small and shifty that he's hard 257 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: to get a hand onto to bring down. So you're 258 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to be really disciplined in the run game, 259 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: which they've been in the last few weeks. They need 260 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: to continue that. Uh. And then yeah, you know you 261 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: can again kind of make Brandon Allen make those mistakes 262 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: and then just feast off of them. One thing that 263 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: they haven't done so far is forced turnovers. It seems 264 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: like the game in which should be able to do that. Yeah, 265 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: I agree. Um, and short to interrupt you, but um, 266 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: as long as they you know, make make Alan in 267 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: Denver as offense, beat you don't beat yourself when they 268 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: try to take those shots and you know, knock it away. 269 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: Create turnovers, but you know, avoid the penalties because don't 270 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: give them any cheap yards that's gonna set up scores 271 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: for him and they should be okay. So a guy 272 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: gets traded from a team, they they become sellers at 273 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: the deadline. What does that do to the to the chemistry? 274 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: What does it do to your locker room? They still 275 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: have eight games to play and you're two and six, 276 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: so it's not totally over. It's not looking ideal by 277 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: any stretch. But what does that do to a to 278 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: a locker room after you trade a guy that's a 279 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: playmaker of his caliber? You know, I always thought it 280 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: was kind of awkward when it's just kind of an 281 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: awkward time of year, because you know, it might be 282 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: a guy in your room, or or somebody that you're 283 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: close with on your side of the ball, or or 284 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: a leader you know, and and there's certain guys that 285 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: you know come up in those conversations that it sends 286 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: a message to the team. It's like, well, maybe what 287 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: direction we headed in right now? Like you alluded to earlier, 288 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: they're trading some of their key players and trying to 289 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: acquire assets for the future. Well what about the guys 290 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: that are there now? They're trying to make a living now. 291 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: So that's the thing. There's just because the message maybe 292 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: upstairs is that we're thinking ahead, you know, the message 293 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: downstairs in the locker room is no, we want to 294 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: win now. This is our livelihood, this is our job. 295 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: So you're gonna get a fiery team. And I think 296 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: guys usually rallied behind behind their teammates. That's It's interesting 297 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: because you did trade a playmaker and then you lose 298 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: your starting quarterback, and now the injury report comes out 299 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: and thirteen guys are either not practicing or limited in practice, 300 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: and it's like, are those injuries that and I'm not 301 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: saying guys should play through, but little nix and scratches 302 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: maybe that you would play through if you were six 303 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: and two as opposed to two and six. I think 304 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: we should also face the reality that this is these 305 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: guys livelihood and they might not be fighting necessarily for 306 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: the Broncos future this year, but they are always fighting 307 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: to put on good tape and earn a contract or 308 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: earn an ability to play somewhere else after. Yeah, so 309 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: I think they'll still be motivated. And they're also at 310 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: week nine without a bye right now also, and that 311 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: that's where those injuries we saw the Brown's injury report 312 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago before the bye week, where 313 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: you were I mean, it was it looks like half 314 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: the team. I mean, that's the impact of not having 315 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: a buy yet. I don't know if did they get 316 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: one the week after or is it it might be 317 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks down the road where it's they're 318 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: just in a tough spot because they as as painful 319 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: as this Brown season has been, with going two and 320 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: five to this point and being disappointed by some results, 321 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: the Broncos has been equally tough, if not worse, because 322 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: they were in so many close games to start the 323 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: season and they were on the wrong end of basically 324 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: all of them. And they last week and they're too 325 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: They're two wins were impressive. I mean, they played really 326 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: well in those two two games. They played well enough 327 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: to beat the Bears, didn't beat them, obviously, played enough 328 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: to beat the Colts, didn't didn't beat them. I mean, 329 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: they've just been on the wrong end of a lot 330 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: of these games. And you're hoping, as someone who roots 331 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: for the Browns, that you've caught them at a time 332 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: where they just feel defeated and maybe that's that's where 333 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: you can hopefully take advantage. So you mentioned the bye week, 334 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: it's next week, this is your last one going into 335 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: that bye week. There's a little bit of an element 336 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: there as well. Yeah, and that division is still up 337 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: for grabs right now. I think there's still a lot 338 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: of football left to be played in that a f 339 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: C West, So I would expect you'll get a pretty 340 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: good effort from von Miller and company coming up on Sunday, 341 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: kickoff again at four. On our side of things, the 342 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: injury bug, uh. Damarius Randall not looking positive like he's 343 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: gonna play this weekend. Uh. Eric Murray coach, alluded to 344 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: it today after his press conference got dinged up yesterday 345 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: and might end up being a little bit more severe. 346 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: The secondary continues to deal with some health issues. If 347 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: it's if it's not one guy, it's another guy here 348 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: in the secondary of this year. Yeah, it's interesting. It's 349 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: like the one area where you can afford injuries for 350 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: some reason that it just keeps having injuries. But it's 351 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: like without those guys, it's not ideal. You want them 352 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: both in the field, but you've got options at both spots. 353 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: T J. Kerry didn't play much at all last week. Uh, 354 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: he would be I would imagine the guy that goes 355 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: and fills in for Murray in the slot, and then 356 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: you had your mix of of white Head. Uh. Maybe 357 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: Murray was playing a little safety as well in that game. 358 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: But also um Morgan Burnett went from a guy that 359 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: was playing about fifteen twenty snaps to every snap against 360 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots. So it's good to have a veteran there 361 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: that you can do that in Justin Burris as well, 362 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: so you've got options. It's not ideal you want to 363 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: Marris Rando on the field. You want Eric Murray in 364 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: the field. But I think against this specific team as well, 365 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: I think you can weather it. Uh. But just hopefully 366 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: these guys can get healthy soon. Yeah. And from an 367 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: offensive standpoint, you know, you take a look and defensively 368 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: Grebel you mentioned they played better to last week, uh, 369 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: and did him continue to progress and Olivia Vernon's playing 370 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: well on the offensive side of the football. Just got 371 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: to get some consistency and get rid of the mistakes, 372 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: get rid of the penalties, get rid of the turnovers. John, 373 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: I guess how tough is it to change habits in 374 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: the middle of the season. Well, I think it is 375 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: tough because you know, you work on you work on 376 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: those things in camp and and all throughout the offseason. 377 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: But you know it's I'm not saying it's too late 378 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: to change. I think they can. I think this the 379 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: game that we're all wanting to see and that they're 380 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: all expecting to play and they want to do as well. 381 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: I think it's out there, and I think we're gonna 382 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: see it here real soon, because let's be honest, all 383 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: of the we talked a little about a bit about 384 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: the fifty fifty balls or chances or things. It always 385 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: seems to go the opponent's way. So I think you're 386 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: gonna see moving forward and potentially this week where you're 387 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: gonna see a ball in the air and at ball 388 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: and our guys gonna come down with it, whether whether 389 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: it's offensively or an interception. You know, I think that 390 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: just some these brakes maybe calls you need to start 391 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: going in our favor. And then and then we're on 392 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: the flip side of it talking about you know, we're 393 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: not We're not the team saying we got to eliminate 394 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: those things. So I think it's out there, and as 395 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: long as they keep their heads on, you know, level 396 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: and everything and moving forward remaining positive. I think you're 397 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: gonna see that. I'll ask you this though, how how 398 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: dangerous or how tough can it be when you're in 399 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: the locker room that might think it's getting the wrong 400 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: end of a whistle and not letting that affect how 401 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: you do things. It's tough, especially when when you feel 402 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: like you're getting picked on, let's say from the officials 403 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: or something. You know, you don't want to go out 404 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: there and create a bigger problem because those guys are 405 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: human too, and you know a lot of those fifty 406 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: things where like for me, it was like they might 407 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: have been holding the guy may look at you and say, 408 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I like that guy, I'm not gonna throw it. I'm not. 409 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they do that, but you know there's 410 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: a lot of things that you know, refs miss and 411 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things they see they could have 412 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: gone either way and end up throwing. And I think 413 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: is if you just try to, you know, continue to 414 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: play technique sound emotionally sound football, you wan't have to 415 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: worry about it. I think you also made a good 416 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: point earlier too, that that if you can get those 417 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: parts down, there are things that you're doing that produces 418 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: winning football, Like running the football well, I mean, Nick 419 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: Chub is averaging over a hundred yards of game and 420 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: he's I think, I want to say he's leading the 421 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: league or his second in the league in yards per carry. 422 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean there's a guy who's extremely consistent, who's carried 423 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: the load on the ground. And you've been able to 424 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: do this against some pretty good defenses as well. You 425 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: know last week the number one defense overall. So if 426 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: you can do that against another solid defense in Denver, 427 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: but kind of control possession and limit the opportunities that 428 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: they're going to have and and also cut down on 429 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: your own mistakes, then you're gonna put together a winning 430 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: game and come away with a victory. It's just a 431 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: matter of doing all those things together once and right 432 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: now you're getting some and not the other ones. You 433 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: just need to put it all together. Well, and you saw, 434 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: we know what you got in Nick Chubb, one of 435 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: the more dynamic playmakers right now in the National Football League. Um, 436 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, we know we need to get Odell going 437 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: and Jarvis and the receivers need to get in the 438 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: end zone. The tight end spots been the one catching 439 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: all the touchdown passes. We got a good game Sunday 440 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: from Baker Mayfield against the New England Patriots, as good 441 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: as you could have wanted. I mean, I don't put 442 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: that interception on him, but it was it was efficient. 443 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: You weren't gonna be taking big, big chunks plays because 444 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: of the weather, and he he did fine. It just was. 445 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: And he's playing down in distance from behind a lot 446 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: too because of the penalties. Yeah, you know, John, I 447 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: want to ask you about this. On that play that 448 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: resulted in the interception, um Joel Brattonio was tasked with 449 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: guarding blocking a guy who was in a much wider 450 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: alignment than usual. How difficult is that on a play 451 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: that requires so much timing and just snap, move the ball, 452 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: get out, you know, and somebody's shooting that gap like that. 453 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: It's it's difficult. And you know, you don't know if 454 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: they practiced it against that look. So that's obviously a 455 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: thing that you just kind of in your own mind 456 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: and and you're kind of away from the building study 457 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: or looking at you you kind of say, Okay, what's 458 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: my emergency plan if this happens? And listen, I know 459 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: Joel very well. I know he had that continguency plan 460 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: in place, and it was just one of those things. 461 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure he thinks about it and he's still bothering him. 462 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: And I know he's gonna come out this weekend and 463 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: probably play his best game because I know he's gonna 464 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: want to erase that and show that that was just 465 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: a freak thing. But you know, it's tough, especially when 466 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: you know a place called and you're sitting there and 467 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: you say, this play. The success of this play really, 468 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: if I do my job, it can make it go 469 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: and if I don't, it's gonna be a bad one. 470 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: And that's that's all the things. Great players make those plays, 471 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: and he's a great player. So that's that's kind of 472 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: a thing. I felt bad when I saw because I 473 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: know it is eating him up. But I know he's 474 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna bounce back to this week and it and it 475 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: happens so quickly too. It's a matter of if you 476 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: can get a block for a second and a half 477 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: or less, maybe something like that can happen. Yeah, And 478 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: if a guys, uh, you know, if an alignment's different 479 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: or for defense is in a different alignment that you've 480 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: maybe be expecting, it's kind of you have to you 481 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: have a quick response and change your angle and change 482 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: your steps, change your footwork. There's a lot of moving 483 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: parts to it, and it just you know, credit them. 484 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: They had either a good scheme or a good uh 485 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: a key that that maybe they were expecting it or 486 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: saw it on tape or something and and made a 487 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: great play. I think the only one more thing I 488 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: want to drive home about this that I've seen a 489 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: lot of fans kind of ask about and in the 490 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: conversation around that specific play, because you know, obviously it 491 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: goes viral on the internet and everything else. Um was 492 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: the idea that Baker had an opportunity to not toss 493 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: that ball forward in the design of that play. That's 494 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: pretty much not a thing, right, Yeah. I think there's 495 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: so much trust and timing associated with it that you're 496 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: talking about less than split seconds. I mean, it's like 497 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: a nanosecond that he has to react and get rid 498 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: of that ball because if he holds onto it too long, 499 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: it's a sack or a tackle for loss. If if 500 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: he throws it too early, it's a it's a fumble. 501 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: You know. So it's just a timing thing. Is a 502 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: lot of this offense is, and it's a thing that 503 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: they've practiced. It's a thing that looks great on during 504 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: the week, and you know, unfortunately against the Patriots that 505 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: just didn't work out in their favor. So I think 506 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: the timing has a lot to do with it. And 507 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: Baker was doing his job. He was getting rid of 508 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: the ball in a timely manner and just you know, 509 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: fell into the wrong hands unfortunately. Alright, time now for 510 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: our keys to a Browns victory. God knows they need it. 511 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: We need it, a fan base needs it. Everybody would 512 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: like a victory Monday. So with that being said, Gribble, 513 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: I'll start with you give me the biggest key to 514 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: a Brown's victory on Sunday. I'll go really simple, so 515 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: you guys can get in the details. If you score 516 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: twenty points, I think you scored twenty points, you win 517 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: this game. I think the Broncos have had a tough 518 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: time getting I think that the key number in Denver 519 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: this year was twenty four. They haven't really hit that consistently. 520 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that hasn't scored much 521 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: points to begin with. They play low scoring games. That's 522 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: where they want to be. With you. They've got I 523 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: think the Browns have a really good kicker. The Broncos 524 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: have a really really good one that is used to 525 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: those those elements in Denver. I know when we were 526 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: there last year, we were not wanting to see him 527 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: come out and attempt that last field goal at the 528 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: end before Jabbral made that that game saving sack. So 529 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: I think if you scored twenty points, I think you win, 530 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: and I think you win in a position where you're 531 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: not sweating it out the end. Do you need to 532 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: get up Yeah? Yeah, I mean you can't play from 533 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: behind against this defense. I mean, they're they're still a 534 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: really good defense. Somehow, They're still really really good without 535 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb and they they it's a it's a I 536 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: would say, even though they have a new coach and 537 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: apparently they're doing a lot different things, it's a cultural 538 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: thing there that they have. They've just had a really 539 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: good defense for about it seems like the last decade. 540 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: They have a lot of experience veterans on the defense too. 541 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: They still have Chris Harris, jrs H, Todd Davis, Is 542 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: there guys like Adam Gotsis. I mean, there's it's not 543 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: just Von Miller it's not just Bradley Chubb and and 544 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: they're relying on that backbone. But I totally agree that 545 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 1: you cannot play from a significant deficit. If you think 546 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: last week it was hard, well, actually last week was 547 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: probably still more difficult. But let's just let's just say 548 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: take the lesson from my how how you know, how 549 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: how quickly did you feel like you were making an 550 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: uphill climb there. Let's get rid of that and try 551 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: and operate, you know, on schedule and get ahead and 552 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: then get a little more comfortable so you can play 553 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: a little more freer. Yeah, I think, um, I completely 554 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: agree with you, and I think in order to do that, 555 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: like to see maybe take a lot of shots and 556 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: be really aggressive early, you know, take those big plays 557 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: down the field like we were last year on the 558 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: first score. Yes, so really, just you know, unload the playbook, 559 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: all your deep fun throws early, try to get an 560 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: early one or maybe a special teams are a big 561 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: turnover in the red zone that that allows for an 562 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: early score. Then put to put all the pressure on 563 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: their new quarterback and let our guys maybe have a 564 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: sack party at the end of the game. Then they 565 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: can control that the Browns can control the clock throughout 566 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: the game with their rushing attack, so I really like 567 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: to see them be ultra aggressive early, try to get 568 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: a cheap you know, maybe turnover something that sets up 569 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: a score and and go from there. Kind of a 570 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: beautiful thing to consider because most games, and especially a 571 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: lot of the games that the Browns I've had so 572 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: far this year against very good opponents, the one of 573 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: the keys has always been you gotta established the run, 574 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: you gotta control possession. But to hear go out and 575 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: get a score first and then kind of circle back 576 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: to controlling possession, it's refreshing because it could create some excitement. Yeah, 577 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: of course, did you ever have to go up against 578 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: von Miller one on one in a situation where you 579 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: ended up having to go Yeah? I think that they 580 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: used to have a package where he lined up on 581 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: the inside, And I know teams were starting to do 582 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: that towards the end of my career, and I was 583 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: kind of hoping that they waited until I was done. 584 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: But it makes sense because you know the tackles are 585 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: they're built to block in space. They're a little bit 586 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: more athletic. I hate to say that, I know all 587 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: the tackles are out there listening are loving it. But 588 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: I hate to admit that, but you know, you get 589 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: your your kind of star edge rusher, Like when they 590 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: move Miles inside or ov inside. You know that makes 591 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: guards nervous. I'm like, wait a second, why are you 592 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: in here? You know, give me some you know, big giant, 593 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: slow guy. And I know there's a lot of really 594 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: athletic three techniques and and defensive tackles, but I do 595 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: remember going against him where they would kind of have 596 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: a little package where he'd be inside and they'd have 597 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: somebody else over the edge, and they'd run twists and everything. 598 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: So it creates a lot of havoc and maybe confusion 599 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: because you're trying to I D people. You're like, why 600 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: is this guy in here? So you might see it 601 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: mix it up. But he's a great player. Your key, 602 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: if you have one big key for a Browns win 603 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday, my key is to disrupt the quarterback on 604 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: the defensive side. And uh, at the end of the game, 605 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: let's have let's see Myles Garrett have three sacks, four sacks. 606 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: Let's see OVI have a have a you know, big 607 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: sack coming out party, and and let's just see everybody 608 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: having fun, work to wear. Everyone on our sideline is smiling. 609 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: It's a nice flight home. I'm in. I'm a big 610 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: fan of that, especially because it will be a late one. Yeah, 611 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: as it always uh shook key to victory. This one, 612 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 1: I think is maybe the most obvious based on what 613 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: we've been talking about all week, and let's just avoid 614 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: the penalties, avoid shooting yourself in the foot, get out 615 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: of your own way, and start to play the football 616 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: that you've shown in spots that you can play. You 617 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: showed it against Seattle early. I mean you took that 618 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: game by the throat and just didn't finish it off. 619 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: So let's do that here uh in Denver and come 620 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: away with the victory that everybody can be proud about 621 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: and feel good about moving forward. I would love nothing 622 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: more than in the third and fourth quarters to be 623 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: handing the ball off to Nick Chub, and hand the 624 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: ball off to Nick Chubb and hand the ball off 625 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: maybe the Dantrell. Let's take that for you know, plus 626 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: four yards a carry and uh and rack up some 627 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: first downs and eat some clock, you know with the lead, 628 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: big fan. One final thing, altitude, is it a big deal? 629 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: Is it not a big deal? Is it overblown? I 630 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: always used to think that it was overblown. And I 631 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: played out there, uh with my time in Cleveland, and 632 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: we had like a really long opening drive, like twelve 633 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: play and I thought I was gonna die when we 634 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: went to the sidelines. So I think it was real. 635 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: But I think as the time went on, you either 636 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: stopped thinking about it or worrying about it, or you're 637 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: just tired from playing a game. So I think it 638 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: is a is a real um, real issue or concern 639 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: only if you let it be. If you just go 640 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: in there kind of expecting it and say, you know what, 641 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to adjust on the fly, I think 642 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 1: you everyone will be okay. Is it? Is it like 643 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: when you hear people talk about this who have gone 644 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: and played, you know, basketball against the Nuggets or against 645 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: the Broncos. They a lot of them tend to say 646 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: it's something that hits you early. Like you just said, 647 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: is that mostly what you've heard from your teammates too? Yeah? 648 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: I think so. And like I said, it could affect 649 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: everyone differently. I don't know if you're if you're from 650 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: that part of the country, you know, if you're just 651 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: used to it. But if you go out there, I 652 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: don't know how long it takes your body to acclimate 653 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: it to it, or I've heard that if you're like 654 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: you're saying, affects you really, but I hear if you're 655 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: out there for a day or two that you should 656 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: be acclimated to it or adjusted to it. So we'll 657 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: see how it goes. Hopefully it's not. You know, you 658 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: never want to use it as an excuse as to, 659 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, why you're not winning the game. But as 660 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: long as they can go out there and and kind 661 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: of let that somebody something that's been the back of 662 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: their minds because they have a lot of other things 663 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: that they should be focused on I think about. Okay, 664 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna wrap it up. We'll get you 665 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: ready for Broncos. Brown's coming your way on Sunday. The 666 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: radio pregame show starts at kickoff at four with Jim Donovan, 667 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: Doug Deacon and Nathan's a Girl on the University Hospitals 668 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's radio network. 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