1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: And that's the coolest thing about actors. We can keep 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: learning and going and getting better. And an acting coach 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: told me that as athletes, they can't their bodies give out. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: With us, they don't. We can keep going. You just 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: keep getting better, and like, yeah, I kind of like that. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: We can just be like seventy and keep doing it. 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: We're superior specimens to athletes. Basically, that's where my brain 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: just took that that I'm going to carry with me 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: from here on. Please do hi. I'm jessica's Or and 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: I played Vanessa Abrams on Gossip Girl and I am 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: now hosting my own podcast x O x O. Hello everybody, 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: and welcome again to your favorite podcast. Well at least 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: it's my favorite podcast, Off the Beat. I am your host, 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Brian baum Gartner. Today is an exciting day. Now why 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: is an exciting day? It is International Women's Day, and 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: I am told the traditional gift on International Women's Day 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: is to record a special episode with a talented and 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: funny woman like my guest, Jessica Zor. This interview may 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: surprise you a bit, I mean not her. She herself 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: is precisely the type of person, an actor, that you 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: would expect on this show. You know her from shows 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: like Gossip Girl, Complications, Shameless, or The Orville. But the 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: thing that might surprise you a little bit is that, well, 24 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: jess and I are very good friends, like came to 25 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: my wedding. Good friends, like gave her mom a foot rub. 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: Good friends. Wait was you don't have a friend like that? 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Well you'll see what I mean. She is also the 28 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: host of her very own podcast, XO x O, which 29 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: in fact is brought to you by the same incredible 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: team behind this podcast. Oh well, you know it's good. 31 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 1: Please welcome fellow podcaster and one of my favorite people 32 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: on the planet. Jessica Zor Bubble and Squeak. I love it, 33 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Bubble and squeaker Bubble and squeaker cookie, every moment left 34 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: over from the nut before. Am I coming at Hi? 35 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Just what I'm like surrounded by you? I have your 36 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: book here, your Christmas card with your beautiful girls. Oh, 37 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I am everywhere. It's so good to see you. 38 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: I didn't want to call you before we were doing 39 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: this because I wanted I said the same thing, like 40 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it, and I'm like, you know what, 41 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: we won't. And we've always for as long as we've 42 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: known each other and been friends. I feel like when 43 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: I talked to her see you, it's like we were 44 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: just hanging out last week. I know. So what are 45 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: we the most unlikely duo in all of Hollywood? I 46 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: feel like we are. Oh my god, I love it. No, 47 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean seriously, I want to talk about it a 48 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: little bit. How we got to know each other. But 49 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: you and I, I mean again, now this is pre pandemic. Yeah, 50 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: we we were like going to any parties together. What 51 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: were people thinking about this? I don't know, but I honestly, 52 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: those were the most fun times I've had. Papa was 53 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: always with us and Celeste, and even now when they 54 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: come up, I'm like, if I'm not gonna be with 55 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: you three, it's not the same. No offense to anyone 56 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: that's come with me the other years. But I always 57 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: have the most fun with you because you guys, don't 58 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: you have fun if you don't take anything too seriously. 59 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: But that's also why I think we always connected and 60 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: like became friends right away. Like we're serious about what 61 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: we do and our families and things like that and 62 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: our work, but we also like we like see what 63 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: it all is too We're not like too serious about it, 64 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yes, I mean you have 65 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: to be slightly more serious on the red carpet than 66 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: I do. Let's be on. But it's crazy. I was 67 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: thinking about those early days and looking over your career 68 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I don't think that I was fully 69 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: aware we started hanging out very quickly after Gossip Girl started. Yes, 70 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: like it had to have been like two thousand seven, 71 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: two thousand right in there, right for sure, which I 72 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: was trying to go down because we also, like obviously 73 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: with Will being a mutual friend of ours, someone I 74 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: grew up with who's also a dear friend of Brian's, 75 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: our friend Will Monady, who's a legend and an amazing person. 76 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: But I couldn't like pinpoint exactly the time we met, 77 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: because I truly feel Brian like we've been friends for 78 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: a lifetime, and although going back to two thousand seven, 79 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: it's a very long time, but even I remember, like 80 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: I don't remember specifically, but I know the feeling. I 81 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this guy is super dope, super cool, 82 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: down to earth. We were both Packer fans, which is 83 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: nice from Atlanta, which is everybody she called. She called 84 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: me dope. She called me dope. She called me dope. 85 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Here's one of my earliest memories. All right, I was 86 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: on this television show called The Office, which is the 87 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: opposite of the Gossip Girl experience. So we're in New 88 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: York and I don't remember if this is the first 89 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: time I met you or very early on, but we 90 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: are at an establishment and there is a general consensus 91 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: and this is you, this is some of your other castmates. 92 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: This is our friend Will Malnati of the Malnati Pizza 93 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Empire and now he's taking over the world of media. Yes, 94 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: and we decided we're going to go to another establishment, 95 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: which is literally one block away. Okay, it is around 96 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: a corner, but it is like directly behind where we are. 97 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: And everyone is like, yeah, We're gonna go get in 98 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: a limo. And I'm like, what, why are we get 99 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: to get it? Why are we getting in a limo? 100 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: And because I wasn't into the whole paparazzi scene at 101 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: this point, I didn't know what was going on, so 102 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: we we pile it a limo. Your mom is there, Okay, 103 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: this is crucial to the story. Your mom is there 104 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: and is sitting next to me, and her feet are hurting. 105 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: This is early on and suddenly I'm giving your mom 106 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: a foot missile in a limo for exactly one block 107 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: ride around the corner. I'm like, okay, all right, I 108 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: guess this is what we're doing here. I am like laughing. 109 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: First of all, my mom loves a foot rub, obviously, 110 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: but that I remember that, Oh my god. And you're 111 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: not you guys, he is not joking. We literally probably 112 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: getting that many people into the limo took more time 113 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: than if we just walked there. But is it because 114 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: of paparazzi? Oh well, hunter? And I was like, why 115 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: are we not why are we not walking? Yes, but 116 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: the paparazzi was a thing for you guys. Um, all right, 117 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that. So my mom is gonna 118 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: die laughing right now. Hey, listen, all I do is 119 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: speak truth. You're off the beat. I speak off the 120 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: beat truth, all right. So you're from Manominee Falls, which, 121 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: by the way, if you know that song Manomonie Beep, 122 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: that's all I can think of whenever I hear Monomonie Falls. 123 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: What is that the Muppet show Beep? It's not about 124 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: the city, it's just the same sounds. I'm an idiot. Um, 125 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: so you're from there and a big fan of the 126 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Yes, now you bet you're a Packers 127 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: fan from birth. Yeah. Basically, if you're from Wisconsin, you 128 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: you are just you're a Packers fan, You're a Bucks fan, 129 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: you're a Brewers fan. There's no you don't have another option. Really. 130 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: I also think it's funny. It's like the Packers like 131 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: packing cheese, Brewers like beer, Bucks like Hunting. I'm like, 132 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: we got some real, real cool names for our sports team, 133 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: but you know, people like to drink Hunting, eat cheese, 134 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: eat cheese. Wisconsin period, Cheddar. So you're from Wisconsin, you're 135 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: a Packers fan, and obviously we have bonded over that. 136 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: But how did that happen? One that was like points 137 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: in my book right away, like from Jump but like 138 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: from Atlanta, but also a Packer fan. That doesn't happen often. No, 139 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it really was about the relationship with 140 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: UM twelve Mr Rogers. I. Early on, he and I 141 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: started becoming better and better friends, and I was following 142 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: them and I was going to Green Bay and you know, 143 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: I was a fan of the Falcons, the at but 144 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: I was like, what am I doing? Am I going 145 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: to sort of just stay fans of this team that 146 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: I grew up with that I don't get to see anymore? 147 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: Or am I going to root for my friend and 148 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: then through him? I've met so many awesome guys and gals, 149 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: not just on the team, but people from Green Bay. So, 150 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, a j Hawk is a great friend of 151 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: mine now, and Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb and you know, 152 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of the guys. And then going to the Games, 153 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: I spent a bunch of time with the people of 154 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay and I just fell in love with it. 155 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: I fell in love with the city. I fell in 156 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: love with the people. I fell in love with the 157 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: organization and how they do their business. And so I'm 158 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm all in yeah, And once you are like a fan, 159 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: you don't have a choice. Now, Brian, it's done. So 160 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: it's done. I'm shooting promotional videos for them, and I 161 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: know I don't know um. In fact, now we're going 162 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: story time again. I'm gonna remind you Jess and I 163 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: were together for this excluding rubbing her mom's feet, one 164 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: of the weirdest nights ever and also one of the 165 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: greatest sports memories of my life. So we were in 166 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: Dallas when Green Bay won the Super Bowl and had 167 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: a crazy snowstorm in the city shutdown. I was like, 168 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: that's right. It was like Green Bay Packers like brought 169 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: the weather with them. I'm like, when's the last time 170 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: is it snowed in Dallas and they're shutting down this city? 171 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: Like what there's yes, So that's so that's part of 172 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: my story. So we are we we we go to 173 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: the game. That's amazing, But I believe the night before 174 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: is one of the weirdest, most uncomfortable nights of my 175 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: entire life. And you were there. So we are at 176 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: a super Bowl party. This is this is what happens. 177 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: You go to the Super Bow all and there are parties, 178 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: and you know, our little pod you know, was essentially 179 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: me and you and Will and basically there starts to 180 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: be this like grumbling. It's like, oh like whisper after 181 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: party of JTS after party of j T s. And 182 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I turned to you, however, 183 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: but I remember going like, Who's who's j T. Who's 184 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: It was like, oh no, justin timber Lake, justin timber 185 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: Lakes having an after party, and I'm like, Okay, this 186 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: all seems weird, but I'm in Dallas for the Super Bowl. 187 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Let's go for it. So there's a bunch of people 188 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: and as just says, it's snowing, it's icing, the roads 189 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: are closed. It's really a serious situation in terms of 190 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: the weather, and it's a city that isn't used to it. 191 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: It's not like if you're in Wisconsin or in the 192 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: cities where they're like, okay, we got snowpads doing. They 193 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: didn't know what to do because they don't get snow 194 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: like that, right. And also because it's like you know, 195 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: it gets warm during the day or whatever, it turns 196 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: into ice. And I'm not going to do a web 197 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: report for everybody. Basically, it was dangerous and there's not 198 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people on the roads. And somehow we 199 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: procure a big suv and we're all going to the 200 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: after party at J T. S. And so we get 201 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: out of the car and it's a little dark, like 202 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: it's like, huh, it's kind of weird. Maybe we're earlier whatever, 203 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: and we go inside and there's nobody there. I mean, 204 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: there's like his managers there. He's gone to bed. There's 205 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: literally nothing happening at this house, and we're now from 206 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: where our hotel was, were like halfway across the world. 207 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: The driver's gone, the driver's gone to bed, and I 208 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: mean this was within five minutes. He's not answering calls. 209 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Whatever was We sat there for like two hours, just 210 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: this thing with nothing happening. I mean, not a beer 211 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: to be seen. We're just sitting now in JT's house 212 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: while he slept in the other room, having just the 213 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: most awkward, weird experience of my Hollywood life. It was 214 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: a wild situations. Yes, so I always remember because that's 215 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: obviously one of my favorite sports memories of all time, 216 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: but it's coupled with the most awkward night. Awkward for sure, awkward. 217 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: I do feel like Justin ended up coming out at 218 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: one point, because I remember my uncle came to meet 219 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: us and met him and was like, wow, he's such 220 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: a nice guy. But I'm like, I don't know what 221 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: time that was. We were still waiting for our car. Yeah, 222 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: and then your mom showed up. I gave her another 223 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: foot rob. It was so bizarre. It's a trip. Okay, 224 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: so you're in Wisconsin and you decide you want to 225 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: do modeling, So how does this happen? Talk to me 226 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: about how you get your career stars. So I guess 227 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: I was like four or five. I don't really remember this. 228 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: Someone had stopped my mom and said, you should really 229 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: consider getting her into modeling. My mom was a young 230 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: mom and thought maybe there is something here and we 231 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: could save the money and put it away for her 232 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: for college. And in Nominee Falls, ironically now is the 233 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: headquarters of Cole's department store, so they shot right there. 234 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: So I started modeling there. Then I was ten, I 235 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: started working down in Chicago. That's where I met Will 236 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: because we modeled together there. And then at like twelve 237 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: and thirteen, started going to New York for more jobs. 238 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: And then there wasn't agent that would go to Chicago 239 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: and try to meet new kids to bring them out 240 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: for pilot season. And we met with him and it 241 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: went well, and he wanted me to come, but my 242 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: parents were like, we can't afford to just like up 243 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: and take you to l A. We have other kids. 244 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: We couldn't do it. That just wasn't an option. So 245 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: I went through high school. And how old are you 246 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: at the old I was probably twelve or thirteen. Okay, 247 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: so this is like child act. Yeah, but I wasn't 248 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: in I wasn't in theater. I wasn't in drama. I 249 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: had done commercials and I liked, you know, the vibe 250 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: in front of the camera and being funny or smiling 251 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: and goofy and things like that. But um, years later, 252 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: I UM, let me tell you this story first, because 253 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: this is what also gave me a taste. I auditioned. 254 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: There was a big movie called Star Wars, and my 255 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,119 Speaker 1: dad was obsessed with all of that, and I auditioned 256 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: for Princess Leah. And then I got a call back 257 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: and they did fly us out to l A. And 258 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: I get to this callback if they've narrowed it down 259 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: to I don't like a handful of girls. And I 260 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: went in to do the read and there's all these 261 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: people at this big table, huge names that you know of, 262 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: And then they had crans and papers and all these 263 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: things for the kids to do. And it was around 264 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: the holiday, so I made cards for everyone in the 265 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: room that said Jesus is the reason for the season. 266 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: And as you know, probably more than half of the 267 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: people in the room were Jewish. So they go in, 268 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, an hour later when it's my turn again 269 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: and I hand the things out and the casting director 270 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: comes out and it's like, where's Jessica's parents? And my 271 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: mom's like sitting in there and her like she's like 272 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: right here. Thought I was like in trouble. They're like, oh, 273 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: we just think it's so nice that, like, you guys 274 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: aren't stage parents. He wrote Jesus is the reason for 275 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: this season and handed it to a bunch of Jewish people. 276 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: M I clearly didn't get the job. I like didn't 277 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: remember that. My agent years later told me that, I'm like, Mom, 278 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: why would you let me do that? She's like, I 279 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: was letting you do you. So there was a little 280 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: bit of that where I go went to l A 281 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: and you know, kind of auditioning and being in front 282 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: of people that make really cool movies and really good art. 283 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: And then so get to my senior year, I go 284 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: to my home room, um, and the teacher says something like, 285 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, congratulations to the first day of the rest 286 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: of your life. And I had planned on marrying Ryan Zoohockey, 287 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: going to an art school in Chicago, being an interior designer. 288 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: My life was planned. And when she said that, it 289 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: kind of kept going over and over in my head. 290 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, is this what I'm doing? I don't know. 291 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: And then it clicked and like I kind of want 292 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: to go see what that agent was talking about a 293 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So I went to the guidance counselor, 294 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: took all my credits, graduated at semester, and I went 295 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: home that day told my parents I'm gonna graduate in 296 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: January and go out for the pilot season. I just 297 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: want to go see what this guy has to offer 298 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: and has to say. And they were like, if that's 299 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: what's gonna make you happy, go ahead. That's how I 300 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: got to l A. Now, how was Ryan Zumickey about this? Well, 301 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: we had dated through high school and he's, you know, 302 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: my high school sweetheart, and he's such a lovely, wonderful human. 303 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was a weird thing because 304 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: we're from a small town. Everyone kind of stayed there, 305 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: which is awesome and beautiful. But for me, I was like, 306 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to like explore and travel and see things. 307 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: So so I did. Right. So at first I'm going 308 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: to teach weather and now geography. So my nominee falls 309 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: is not that far from Chicago. I mean, that's a 310 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: drive just for those of you who don't know. So 311 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: you you did the cold stuff, and you were in Chicago, 312 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: and then you did some stuff in New York. But really, 313 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: other than these couple of experiences, you hadn't had that 314 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: much experience in l A. Is that right? No? And 315 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: even when I booked my first acting thing and they 316 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: told me the mark and the directors like you gotta 317 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: keep hitting the mark on the same line, I was. 318 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: I was freaking out, Brian. I didn't know. I'm like, 319 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: why why would I have to say the line every 320 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: time on the same spot? And I remember it was 321 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: a Damon Wayne show and one of the Wayne's brothers 322 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: were helping me in the back. They're like, oh, because 323 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: it's you know, they got a match stuff. So I 324 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: didn't even know what I was doing. And I was 325 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: like it was scary and nerve reckoned. I'm like, I 326 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: need to take like a technical class so I know 327 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: what marks mean and all the moving. And I mean, 328 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: because I didn't, how did you know? I mean, I 329 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a similar experience too, right, 330 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: I mean I had done so much theater at that point, 331 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: so you know, in theater, depending on how intricate the 332 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: lighting and the set moving and all that stuff. You know, 333 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: they're definitely marks, but it's not the same. No, And 334 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: it's literally like to the word it is. And I 335 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: think that's another thing people don't realize that, you know, 336 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: acting on film or television, when you're acting in front 337 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: of a camera, it's there is a huge technical element. 338 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: You have to kind of get your bearings. So you 339 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: go right after high school to l A, so you 340 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: start to book jobs. I did. Yeah, what were some 341 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: of the shows you were doing? What I Like about You? 342 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Which was Amanda Bayan's which was awesome because Kelly from 343 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: nine O too, and No, Jennifer Garth was on it. 344 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: I was tripping out. I was like, so excited when 345 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: you get to do that. And then the Wayne's brothers, 346 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: my wife and kids, Drake and Josh and Nickelodeon and 347 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean these were some of these were five and under, 348 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, a couple lines here, Um, what was really cool? 349 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: And I say, maybe it was God looking out for 350 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: me or the universe. The first audition they put me 351 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: on was a national IBM commercial which ran for two years. 352 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: Thank god I got it. Just paid so well, I 353 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 1: mean I made more money on that than almost all 354 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: those shows I just said put together. So that was nice. 355 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: I could take acting classes, I didn't have to go 356 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: and wait tables. I could really focus on my craft. 357 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: So that was a really big and I don't overlooked 358 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: that at all. I was very blessed that that worked 359 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: out for me. So you don't ever go back to 360 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: go to school. I don't. Right before I was gonna 361 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: head back, I was actually talking. It was Marlon Wayne's. 362 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: He said, what do you mean you're going back. You 363 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: can't just come out here and give it a couple 364 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: of months. You know, it takes years, and and I said, 365 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: I know, but he said, no, you need to like 366 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: stay and grind. And I let it like settle in. 367 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, maybe he's right. So like a month 368 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: before I had stuff picked out to go to school 369 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: in Chicago, the whole thing, I called, and I'm like, 370 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna stay. And then I stayed. And 371 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: then you know, like our industry, so like you can 372 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: be on this thing where you're booking stuff, and then 373 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: you don't book some things that you're getting offered, things 374 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: that you might not love but could be cool, you're 375 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: auditioning for things you love but you're not getting. I mean, 376 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: there's so many different factors and emotions. And I was 377 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: in a real funk. Maybe there have been like probably 378 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: ten auditions I didn't get, So then I was feeling 379 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: that too, So I wanted to move home. And then 380 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: my mom came out and her and Jamie Fox sat 381 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: me down at Patch to tell me that they don't 382 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: think I should move home, that when things get tough, 383 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: the easiest thing is to do is to give up. 384 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: And I listened to them even though I had like 385 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, Mom, why would you guys sit and do 386 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: this to men? And Jamie is just like talking to me. 387 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you've been in this and you've done and 388 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: he's like yeah, but you don't think things got hard? 389 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: And a week later is my whole story with Gossip Girl. 390 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: So thank god for my mom coming, thank God for 391 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: them kind of telling me the truth. And it wasn't fun. 392 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean I was I was lonely. I was crying 393 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: myself to sleep some of the nights I missed my family. Um. 394 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: When people are like, oh, it's so glamorous, I'm like, 395 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: you guys didn't know when I was like by myself, 396 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: crying myself to sleep. But yes, there's beautiful things that 397 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: come along with it, but there's definitely it's a it's 398 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: a roller coaster as an actor for sure. Yeah, I 399 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: love hearing. I mean, first off, you're so cool that 400 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: you name dropped one of the coolest, hippest places that 401 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: no one knows in l A, Pa, just like you 402 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: just threw it in there, just like that's my favorite. 403 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: Oh god. Um. But know that those moments like that, 404 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: even all this these many years later, that that stuck 405 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: with you, that you were really about to leave. And 406 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, you might think that your mom would say, 407 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: come home, little girl, but she had the gumption too 408 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: to convince you to pursue what she knew you wanted to. Yeah, 409 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: and she always did tell me come home, you stay 410 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: here if you if we need to find you a 411 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: place that you want to move out, And that was 412 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: always that, but she really was. She said, I think 413 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: you find a happiness here and you're just going through 414 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: a bit of a thing, so I'll come out. And 415 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: even just my mom's presence being there took a lot 416 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: of that feeling away, of the loneliness, even you know, 417 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: and then when she left again, I like broke down 418 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: and free, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm like 419 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 1: on the four or five crying of music. And then 420 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: I like look around him, like these mountains are beautiful. 421 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: I live in l A. Like, come on, just get 422 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: it together. This is nice. It's not that bad. No, 423 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: it's not that bad. Yeah, all right, So you have 424 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: this talk at cool one and then you meet the 425 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: folks on Gossip Girl talk to me a little bit 426 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: about how that happens. And that's not in l A. Right, Well, 427 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: it shot an New York. But right around this time, 428 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: I was in that funk of wanting to move home 429 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: and a friend of mine and his roommate they were 430 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: going to this barbecue and asked if I wanted to go, 431 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: and I wasn't really in the mood. I was like, 432 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: because it was at that thing. I'm like, the last 433 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: thing I want to do is like be around people 434 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: in l A at a barbecue because all they do 435 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: is talk about themselves and the industry. How funny and 436 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: contradicting as I'm doing that. So I wasn't in the mood. 437 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: And my friend, um Nathaniel was like, no, you know, 438 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: it'll be fun. So him and his friend come and 439 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: pick me up. I literally go in the car, no makeup, 440 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: and we get there and I meet, you know, the 441 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: guy who owns the house. He was very lovely and 442 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: his friend Stephanie, and we're like drinking Margarita's and sitting 443 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: by the pool and people are talking about life and things. 444 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: But there it was like kind of refreshing because it 445 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: wasn't what I had in my mind of all the 446 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: other things I'd been to. It was really kind of nice. 447 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: We'll cut too. It happened to be Josh Swartz and 448 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: Stephanie Savage Josh Schwartz's house. Stephanie and Josh were obviously 449 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: both there. They're the creators of Gossip Girl. They don't 450 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: mention a word to me there about anything, but in 451 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: their mind, apparently the way they tell the story is 452 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: right when they shook my hand, they're like, this is Vanessa. 453 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: So a couple of days later, I get a call 454 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: from my manager. I go to Warner Brothers. I audition. 455 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I felt like it went well. You know auditions, Sometimes 456 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: you feel like, well, it doesn't go your way. Sometimes 457 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: you feel like they don't you get the job. It's 458 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: so weird. I thought it went well, but I always 459 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: after an audition if I don't get it, I like 460 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: to get notes so that I can work, so I 461 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: can bring it into the next thing, just iron out 462 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: or get better at I do want to learn and 463 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: keep going. And that's the coolest thing about actors. We 464 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: can keep learning and going and getting better. An an an 465 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: acting coach told me that as athletes, they can't their 466 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: bodies give out. With us, they don't. We can keep going. 467 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: You just keep getting better, and like, yeah, I kind 468 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: of like that because we can just be like seventy 469 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: and keep doing it. We're superior specimens to athletes. Basically, 470 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: that's where my brain just took that that I'm going 471 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: to carry with me from here on. Please do uh Yeah. 472 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: So they call back and they said they love to read. 473 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: They just kind of feel you kind of look a 474 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: little similar to the Three Girls, which is Blake Lively, 475 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: late Mester and Taylor Momson. Um, if you know what 476 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: they look like, I look nothing like them. So I'm like, 477 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: what I'm like, send pictures of my hair curly. I'm 478 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: like a little bit mixed here. So they send pictures 479 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: of my hair curly and then they're like, yeah, so 480 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: I go to New York and I do my three 481 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: to four episodes and then on that fourth or fifth episode, 482 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: they asked me to be a series regular and that 483 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: changed my life. Yeah. So did you know Gossip Girl? 484 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean this was a hot show at the time, Like, 485 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: were you aware of it? Were you had it started 486 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: airing at this point when you joined or no, nope, 487 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: it had not aired. But when I got there, every 488 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: billboard in Times Square, every bus had the cast up, 489 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of buzz around it because 490 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: it was, you know, the creators of The o C. 491 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: That was such a huge hit. So I had a feeling, 492 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, people are going to really dig this um. 493 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, when I landed and I'm like, well, there's 494 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: literally posters everywhere of this show. And then when it aired, Yeah, 495 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: it hit pretty quickly. Can I ask you this about 496 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: the Office? The fourth Wall thing to me is like 497 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: so wild? Did you guys have to do like did 498 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: they do like lessons with you on it? Yeah? No, 499 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: I mean the camera is definitely a character in the show, 500 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: and so us having to use that other character was 501 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: was something new. I don't I don't remember us talking 502 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: about it too much. There were definitely some scripted moments, 503 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean Shocker Jim Michael where it was scripted specifically 504 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: looks to the camera. Um, there was definitely that. Kevin 505 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: was actually one. I was one that used it a 506 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: little more than most, and it's different. It's difficult now. 507 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean some of my old co workers and I 508 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: were talking about it through the podcast that now when 509 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: I have a bad joke or something, I want to 510 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: give a look to the camera, and it's really not 511 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: to at this point to pretend it's not there. Yeah, well, 512 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: you all did such a great job with it, but 513 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: I just didn't know if you had to because what 514 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: I mean like getting I don't want to say trained 515 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: by it, but like on the Orville was seth um McFarland, 516 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: there's some languages and some of the planets. So if 517 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: someone comes and guest stars, they have to go and 518 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: take lessons on how to move and do it, which 519 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: I guess it's not the same thing, but in my mind, 520 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder if there's like a thing of 521 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: timing or that I don't know, because it's so great 522 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: that you guys do it and it's so flipping funny Bryan, Right, 523 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: And that's that's actually what I said. I think the 524 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: hardest job in the world for an actor is actually 525 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: the like one week guest star job, because it's not 526 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: just the technical elements, but even if you're experienced every show, 527 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: every movie, you do things a little bit differently. You know, 528 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: as I joke with people, it's like you literally don't 529 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: know where the bathroom is. So you're there, you are like, 530 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: where's the bathroom? And how are we shooting this and where? Yeah, 531 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: so that's a huge part of the work. Actually, I 532 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: think you bring up a really good point. Yeah, a 533 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: guest start. Yeah, I don't think people realize that either. 534 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: And then I also think, even no matter how professional, 535 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: how many times you've worked on things, it's also nerve 536 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: wracking because you're stepping into someone else's playground. There's just 537 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: so many things to it, like the dynamic with everyone, 538 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: how how much do the producers care if you're married 539 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: to the words are not? Can you be loose with it? 540 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: There's just a lot of stuff. And when you watch 541 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: an episode, the guest star brings such another layer to 542 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: it because it's the new arc of the storyline or 543 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: whatever that episode is. About so it's so important, but 544 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: there's like so much that goes in like what you 545 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: just said to it. Yeah, No, that never actually really 546 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: occurred to me. But we've had guest stars Amy Ryan 547 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: talking about coming on the set for the first time 548 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: and like it was really difficult, and I wonder if 549 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: you actually bring up an interesting point that, yeah, it 550 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: shot a little differently. There is a different vocabulary. You 551 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: brought up marks, right, We didn't have marks. And in fact, 552 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: there were times, you know where you would say like, so, 553 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: where do you need me, and the camera guys would 554 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: be like, oh, we'll find you. Like literally, don't do that. 555 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: And you know, as we've talked about, sometimes the shots 556 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: that they had to search for us a little bit 557 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: were ultimately better. Wait, I want to finish off about 558 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: about Gossip Girlfriend. When did you realize that it was 559 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: going to be huge? Um? There was all of a 560 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: sudden a time where we got to work and we 561 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: all had to have security guards, which was really eye 562 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: opening and wild. There was a time a fan handed 563 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: me a little puffy key chain and the my security 564 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: I grabbed it from my hand and I'm like, what 565 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: are you doing? It's a hello kitty thing? I love 566 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Hello Kitty. That's cute that she knew that, And I 567 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: was I would have honestly like used it or had 568 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: it in my trailer. And he ripped off the head 569 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: and there was like a microphone in it. I said, 570 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: how did you know that? And he said, that's like 571 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: someone trying to get some dirt and information. You never 572 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: take something like that from a fan. And you know, me, 573 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: my like Midwestern, I'm like, oh my god, giving her 574 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: a hug and like thinking she's great, and I remember that. 575 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, people care that much that they're gonna like 576 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: give me a fake Teddy Bear Hello Kitty situation to 577 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: hear some stuff that is crazy. It's how creepy, Oh 578 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: my gosh. But yeah, it was stuff like that like that, 579 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: or you know, if we go somewhere and having to 580 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: go in the back door. As an actor, you don't 581 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: really ever think what if something hits like that. You're 582 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: just happy you got a job. I'm living in New 583 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: York and making money. The character was cool, My cast 584 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: was cool. You don't think about all that kind of 585 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: stuff coming having to sneak in or you know, use 586 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: a different name and all that stuff, and all of 587 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: that was like, Okay, I'm like, this show's hitting in 588 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: a way that I didn't expect, right, or like taking 589 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: a limo to go one block, right. I mean that 590 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: for me was I mean, my show had been on 591 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: for a few years, it had not caught on in 592 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 1: the same way or it just I mean, obviously it's 593 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: just a very very different kind of show with different 594 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: kinds of people. But yeah, I remember experiences with you 595 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: around that that yeah, I mean, that's just that's crazy. 596 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: But I feel like you can't walk anywhere in any 597 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: room at any part of the world now, Brian, where 598 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: people aren't coming up to you left and right. Well, yeah, 599 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: that is true because I remember my cousin when we 600 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: remember we went to watch the Packer game down in 601 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: San Diego. My cousin Sam and Cody came and she's like, 602 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: why did you not say you know you were with Brian. 603 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: I so because I don't. He's just a friend of 604 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: mine and he's the loveliest person. They had so much 605 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: fun and thought you were awesome, and but I just 606 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: remember she's like, oh my gosh, people are coming up 607 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: to him left and right. That's got to be like 608 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I would say probably more so than 609 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: anyone got some girl. Now, well, it's I think it's 610 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: more specific fans. I think that people aren't generally looking 611 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: for that photo to post, you know, that sort of Yeah, 612 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it that sort of insidious side. Thankfully, 613 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: there's not been as much. I mean, clearly some I mean, look, 614 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: it is what it is. But for me, most of 615 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: the time it's fan interaction. I mean, you know, by 616 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: the way, I still I will post things about where 617 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: I have been, but very rarely where I am right now, right, yeah, 618 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: that we have a friend was overseas and they were 619 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: all out to dinner. It was a big group of 620 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, ten people. I think somehow someone figured out 621 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: where they were staying. They got back and the house 622 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: was broken into. Their passports were taking all the things, 623 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, I'm like, that's probably because people 624 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: can kind of people can figure stuff out, you know 625 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But that's scary, No, that is. And 626 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, actually, I'll tell you this is just a 627 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: very funny story. I was shooting in Columbus, Georgia, and 628 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: I had an overnight shoot and right as it's getting 629 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: dark and you can see it on my and so 630 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: you can go back now and look at it. We 631 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: were shooting at a very rough hotel in Columbus, Georgia 632 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: called the Thunderbird In and on the on the sign 633 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: out front it advertised having a pool. Yet at that 634 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: moment people were having dinner when we had just arrived. 635 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: They were literally eating dinner on the grass that had 636 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: filled in the pool. But yet the sign was still 637 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: up advertising that you could stay at the Thunderbird End 638 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 1: and have a pool. I thought this was the funniest 639 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: thing ever, so I posted this video that made me laugh. Basically, 640 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: that was all my point was. And I showed the pool, 641 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: show the sign, show the thing, and at like three 642 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, people start showing up, like and 643 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, what what I mean Columbus Georgia, Like how 644 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: the security guys like yeah, there's some guys here who 645 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: you know. And I'm like, oh my goodness. Anyway, but 646 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: that's not getting broken. I mean, all that is just 647 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: crazy crazy. But wait, how about when you were at 648 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: the wedding you didn't know the bride? Yes, yeah, that's 649 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: in the introduction to the book where I stopped in 650 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: to see this is the first time Angela and I 651 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: were in Scranton. That's very cool. You guys did that. 652 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: By the way, I love I love going um and 653 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: they I'm told that the bride is a big fan 654 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: of the show, and so I I go ahead and 655 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: say hi, and she tells me it's the best moment 656 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: of her life. She's in her wedding dress at her 657 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: wedding and I was like, no, no, no, no no, you 658 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: just got married forty five minutes ago. She was like, nope, 659 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: this is it. And I was the lass don't. And 660 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: then I was just in Scranton a little while ago, 661 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: and the woman came up to me. She's got a daughter, 662 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: she's ten. She came up, she was she had the book. 663 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: She wanted me to sign the book, and she was there. 664 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it was so crazy to see her. It's 665 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: so awesome. I love stuff like that though. That's awesome. Um, 666 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: all right, so tell me tell me about tell me 667 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: about the podcast. So Brad is playing hockey in Calgary 668 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: for the Calgary Flames and I had just wrapped the 669 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: ore violle and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna take a beat. 670 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm a new mom because I was literally went back 671 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: to work with a three month old working fifteen hour days, 672 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: so it was it was a wild situation. So that 673 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: that show wraps season three and I'm like, I'm gonna 674 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: take a beat. I'm gonna come with you, Brad. For 675 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: the first time in our relationship, I can actually come 676 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: with you somewhere. And a couple months before we were leaving, 677 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: I get a call from my manager and they said, 678 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: this amazing production company has this idea for a podcast, 679 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: and they pitch it and kind of say, like a 680 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: rewatch situation. I kind of sat with it. I was like, 681 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if a rewatch is for me, but 682 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: maybe like a walk down memory lane and talk about 683 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: why the show was a hit and how the fashion 684 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: was a character and how it was filming in New 685 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: York and bring on some of the cast and the producers. 686 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: And so I pitched kind of my creative thoughts on 687 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: it and what I thought could be cool and fun 688 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: to do, and they liked it. And I got to 689 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: come to Calgary and be in my home and still 690 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: be with my daughter who's just you know, downstairs taking 691 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: a nap right now, and get to go to Brad's game. 692 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: So I kind it's like the best of both worlds. 693 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to do it, is one so 694 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: that I could be with my family but also create 695 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: something that's super fun and take the fans behind the 696 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: scenes a little bit of stuff they didn't really know. 697 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: And it's really fun to go back and reminisce with 698 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: everybody because we haven't watched the show in so many 699 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: years and we haven't talked about all the things that 700 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: were nuts and crazy and fun and and it's really great. 701 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: I will say, there's a lot more work that goes 702 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,479 Speaker 1: into a podcast that than people know, don't you think. 703 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: I think people are like you just throw the headphones 704 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: on and you talk to your friend, like this is 705 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: fun because I really feel like you and I have 706 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: just been on the phone for but there is a 707 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: lot more. Now is it fun work? Am I having 708 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: the time? For sure? I just on the other day 709 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that must be nice. You just go 710 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: in and said, I said, no, it's not. Just by 711 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: the way, there's a lot more, but all worth it, obviously, 712 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, I just you know, it's like one of 713 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: those things until reality shows started, like showing like restaurants 714 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: and stuff, you never really think about all that stuff. 715 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: If you're not in it. So when someone's like rude 716 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: and sends back a dish, I'm like, oh my god, 717 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: the chef's been here since like five am. But you didn't. 718 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: You don't think that, do you know what I'm saying? Like, 719 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: until I did this, I would have never known what 720 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: you all had to do to like be where you're 721 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: at now. No, absolutely well, Jess, thank you so much. 722 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: You know how much I love you. I like just 723 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: seeing you here, hearing your voice all the way up 724 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: there in Canada. And in fact, I will will I'll 725 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: close by by how we began. I thought that again. 726 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing weather in geography today. I drove through Northern 727 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: Michigan University. I spoke at Northern Michigan University, which is 728 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: straight head north, as you may know, on the other 729 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: Great Lake from Green Bay. And we drove through Manominee, Michigan. 730 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: Right is that that's not where I'm from, the right Okay. 731 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: And we tried to call you to get a recommendation, 732 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: but I was like, this is she's from Nominee Falls. 733 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: Nomie Falls is down by Milwaukee. But everyone confuses both 734 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: and I get it. I mean, the name is like 735 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: wild Um it was lovely to see your face. I 736 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: miss you so much. I want to come give you 737 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: in the family a big hug. But this was so 738 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: so fun. I may have to, like also just call 739 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: you and ask like certain questions. Make sure I'm doing 740 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: all this podcast stuff right, because you're like a gangster 741 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: the o g of it now. So you're doing awesome 742 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: all right. Here we are Beauty and the Beast. Um. Sorry, 743 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: no offense, no offense beast. Thanks jess That's right, folks, 744 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: you heard it here first. I am beauty, but you 745 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: already knew that. Jessica. So good to see you, my friend. 746 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: I hope we meet up again very soon. Let me 747 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: know when you're back in the US. Thank you all 748 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 1: for listening once again to this humble podcast we call 749 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: Off the Beat. Follow us on Instagram at off the Beat, 750 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: and like and subscribe wherever you listen to your podcast 751 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: and come back next Tuesday to hear from a guest 752 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: who may or may not have been on what is 753 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: often regarded as the greatest television show ever made other 754 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: than The Office. Have an excellent week. Off the Beat 755 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: is hosted an executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside 756 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: our executive producer Lang Lee. Our producers are Diego Tapia, 757 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: Liz Hayes, Emily Carr, and Hannah Harris. Our talent producer 758 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: is Ryan Papa Zachary. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak 759 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode 760 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 1: was mixed by seth Olandski