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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane

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Speaker 1: Never told your protection of I Heart Radio, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of Fictional Women around the World subsub

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Speaker 1: listener suggestion, So thanks, as always for your suggestions. We

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Speaker 1: do take them into account and we very much enjoy

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Speaker 1: getting them. Today we're talking about Rebecca Welton from the

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Speaker 1: critically acclaimed Apple Plus sports comedy show ted Lassa which

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Speaker 1: I recently just watch all of them in a whirlwind

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Speaker 1: today and I loved it. There are going to be

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Speaker 1: some broad strokes of the show and plotline, so if

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Speaker 1: come back to this one later. It's gonna be fairly unspoilery,

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Speaker 1: but still spoilery, So just a it probably spoilery, just

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Speaker 1: go ahead and say that. So. Rebecca Walton formerly Rebecca Manion,

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Speaker 1: is played by Hannah Waddingham, who, if you're not familiar,

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Speaker 1: she was the priest mother and Game of Thrones that

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Speaker 1: did shame shame. I did not know that. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the first season. I was like, what was her?

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Speaker 1: But you should know this, so The show starts literally

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Speaker 1: the very first scene with Rebecca going through a really

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Speaker 1: hard divorce after she finds out that her husband, Rubromanion

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Speaker 1: was having affairs that were printed in the tabloids. And

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Speaker 1: Rubert Manion is played by Giles from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, did you not notice this? I didn't know that. No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't notice it. Wow, I'm pretty sure you have

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Speaker 1: face blindness. I'm very sir, just kidding. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Why why? So she takes control over the football team

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Speaker 1: aka the soccer team, which was originally owned by her

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Speaker 1: husband and he loved it. It It was his life. Uh

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, because he loved this team so much, she

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Speaker 1: was determined to run it into the ground as the

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Speaker 1: fan base to Rebecca's absolute vindictive delight. But Ted is

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Speaker 1: and he's like wearing her down with his biscuits with

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Speaker 1: so this doesn't happen all at once. The Rebecca tries

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Speaker 1: who is also another fantastic character, a model and the

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Speaker 1: see how that ripples out into her friendships. As part

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Speaker 1: nervous about. It's never done before. It's actually one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite scenes I think is when Keyely Rebecca reveals

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Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. So this event gets

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