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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just sitting here thinking about what makes

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Speaker 2: a star. And then the next thing I know, Aaron

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Speaker 2: Torres is sitting next to me. For what first time

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Speaker 2: since six years? Seven years, eight years? I feel like Lebron,

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Speaker 2: not six, not seven, not eight. How long has it

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Speaker 2: been since we've gotten a chance to do this? My man?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I did fill in for you

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Speaker 4: on the night of the NFC Championship game when Dan

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Speaker 4: Campbell was melting down. Me and Kyle Rudolph had a ball. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I dude, I think we did one show together. Randomly.

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Speaker 4: I feel like there was a Sunday Night Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: game and I don't. Maybe I'm losing my mind. Maybe

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Speaker 4: the maast year. I mean, he's been playing Sunday night

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Speaker 4: games for a few years.

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Speaker 5: How anyway, you.

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Speaker 4: Let you know, speaking of Lebron, you were like Lebron

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Speaker 4: in Cleveland. You left for a few years and you

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Speaker 4: came back. I think it was on the back end

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Speaker 4: of you coming back.

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Speaker 2: I didn't I did. I didn't. I didn't sing I'm

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Speaker 2: coming home or anything like that. I just know I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I just I just I just came back. I just

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Speaker 2: turned the microphone on and came back. Uh, no fanfare

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Speaker 2: at all, but but here we are, dude, and I'm yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's great to be with you. Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're here tonight. Uh.

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Speaker 2: buying should be. Speaking of stars, you heard Steve Disager

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Speaker 2: just say moments ago, Scottisheffler's won another golf tournament. And

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Speaker 2: I bet that the collective yawn that came across all

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Speaker 2: of our listeners, as.

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Speaker 3: He said it was palpable.

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Speaker 2: And and here's what I'm getting at, Like, I don't

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Speaker 2: mean to ask stupid questions. I get why Tiger Woods

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Speaker 2: and Scottie Scheffler are different.

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Speaker 3: I'm not stupid. I totally understand.

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Speaker 2: But I think this is something that keeps coming to

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Speaker 2: the forefront in our sports discussion right now, in many

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Speaker 2: different areas of our landscape. Scotty Scheffler is having the

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Speaker 2: best year right now since the heyday of tiger Woods

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, the last time somebody won six

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Speaker 2: times in a PGA Tour season, and there's a long

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Speaker 2: way to go, so stands to good reason that Scotty

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Speaker 2: is going to fly right by this. We've even had

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Speaker 2: something salacious happened. Aaron the Man got arrested on his

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Speaker 2: way to a golf tournament at one.

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Speaker 3: Point, so we've got all these things going.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is adjacent to the WNBA conversation

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Speaker 2: that we've been having in terms of all the WNBA

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Speaker 2: establishment being why are you suddenly paying attention to us

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Speaker 2: now now that Caitlin's here? Yep, We've been doing this

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Speaker 2: for a long time. So the question is when somebody

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Speaker 2: grab America's tension in the same way, what's going on there?

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Speaker 3: What's the making of a star?

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Speaker 4: It's so no, It's so interesting because we actually did

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Speaker 4: a variation of this last night on My Saturday show,

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Speaker 4: and it's like, it feels like the WNBA is trying

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Speaker 4: so hard to shove a Leah Boston not a Leah

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Speaker 4: Asia Wilson, excuse me about our throats, And I said

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Speaker 4: it to Jason Martin. I said, listen, Tim Duncan was

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Speaker 4: That's been going on for as long as I've been

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Speaker 4: and I knew we were gonna lead with this, and

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Speaker 4: it's just such a great question, and it's one that, like,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's an obvious answer now. I do

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Speaker 4: think think that Caitlin Clark a lot like Tiger Woods,

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Speaker 4: in our consciousness. But I don't really have a great answer, Willard,

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Speaker 4: And I'm actually curious for your perspective because I guess

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Speaker 4: I'm curious if you feel like there's something defined. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well we can yeah, we can bet this around a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I think if it's sometimes like this. Now,

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Speaker 2: now you host a podcast, correct Aaron Tarres pod, you

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Speaker 2: own a media company, I bet you've seen this in

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it just takes off.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and and there are podcasts, and I've watched people

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Speaker 2: The best way I can say it because you just asked,

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Speaker 2: It's no different than any television show where you're like

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately we take that as a slight.

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Speaker 2: You know the WNBA right now, there are a lot

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Speaker 3: I'm great at what I do.

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Speaker 2: I might even be better or certainly more experienced than

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Speaker 2: What is Tiger Woods? What is Steph Curry that some

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Speaker 2: you can see Steph Curry. Is this on a basketball court,

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Speaker 3: That's different.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark shoots the ball kind of almost alas Steph,

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Speaker 2: don't mean it as a slight what is it? What

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Speaker 2: Scheffler is classically not different. It looks exactly like every

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Speaker 4: It's so true, and it's funny because I was thinking

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Speaker 4: It's like I don't I don't see like Jay Monahan

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Speaker 3: He's got that kind of talent. And after a.

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Speaker 3: You brought up the Celtics.

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Speaker 4: Don't get to compare any Let's get to three before

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Speaker 4: you know, you just got it.

434
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Speaker 5: Whatever.

435
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: And then they get to the finals and they're destroying Dallas,

436
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: and then what becomes the conversation Willard, Well, you know,

437
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 4: I mean, just just thank god they didn't get Denver

438
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 4: because that Denver wasn't the matchup that they wanted.

439
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 5: It's like, what are we even.

440
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 4: Talking about, like, Willard, Like, you've watched a bunch of

441
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 4: championships with the Golden State Warriors in whatever, pick a year,

442
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Speaker 4: twenty fifteen. I mean, I guess when we got to

443
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 4: the finals there was no KYRIEO Kevin Love, but nobody

444
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 4: was like, well, you know, I mean if the Warriors

445
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Speaker 4: had faced the you know, the whoever, like, I mean,

446
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: it'd be a different It's like, no, those aren't the

447
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 4: conversations that we have, and so maybe I just think,

448
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 4: you know, what I think is the only thing I

449
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 4: think of with this NBA situation is everything you know historically,

450
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Speaker 4: and when I say historically the last fifteen twenty years, right,

451
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 4: it just does kind of feel like we go from

452
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: at least you know, I don't want to use the

453
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: d word, the dynasty word, but you know, we went

454
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: from the Bulls six in eight, which, by the way,

455
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: and I tell this story all the time, bull six

456
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: and eight right into the Shaq and Kobe Lakers. And

457
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, like when I was a kid, like

458
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: the idea of a three peat, I just thought that

459
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 4: was what teams did, Like they just got good and.

460
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Speaker 5: Then they won three in a row and then you

461
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Speaker 5: figure it out from there.

462
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Speaker 4: But then we kind of got, you know, a year

463
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Speaker 4: or two, but then we had the Heat, and then

464
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Speaker 4: we had a year or two, but then we had

465
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Speaker 4: the Warriors. And so maybe that's what it is with

466
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Speaker 4: the NBAS. We just don't know how to contextualize that.

467
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 4: There isn't that team that's atop the mountain top that

468
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Speaker 4: is so obvious and other people have to knock them

469
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Speaker 4: off and you have to build your team to beat

470
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Speaker 4: that team because it is kind of this weird space

471
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Speaker 4: that we're in where Milwaukee got one. Obviously the Warriors

472
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Speaker 4: are the exception of twenty two, but Milwaukee got one,

473
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Speaker 4: then Denver got one. Now BAS has one, Minnesota's not

474
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Speaker 4: going anywhere, Oklahoma City is not going anywhere, And it's

475
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Speaker 4: just one of those things where I do think it's

476
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Speaker 4: kind of hard to contextualize because to your point, Boston

477
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: certainly is not a dynasty, but they were really dominant.

478
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Speaker 4: But like, they don't have the historically great players, so

479
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 4: we can't do the weird MJ.

480
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Speaker 5: Lebron.

481
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Speaker 4: It's just we're in a weird time in the NBA.

482
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Speaker 4: I guess that was an eight minute monologue to explain

483
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Speaker 4: that we're in a weird time.

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Speaker 2: No, we we are. We are, we absolutely are. And

485
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Speaker 2: there's more to say on that, so we will in

486
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Speaker 2: a second. But I'm glad you brought up the idea

487
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Speaker 2: of Kyrie as a changed man, because I feel like

488
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Speaker 2: a changed man every time I hear Steve di Seger talk.

489
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Speaker 2: It really does. It affects me that deeply. Steve, And

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Speaker 2: good evening, and hello.

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Speaker 7: Good evening, thank you, and a couple things for you. Well,

492
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Speaker 7: first off, it's official JJ Reddick will be introduced as

493
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Speaker 7: new Laker head coach tomorrow four thirty eastern, one point

494
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 7: thirty at the Laker practice facility. Two, I think you've

495
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Speaker 7: stumbled on something here for if you're doing a show

496
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 7: during the MLB All Star break, which is traditionally when

497
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 7: hosts run out of ideas and say, if you were

498
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 7: on a deserted island, what for? You know that kind

499
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 7: of thing. If you were president of sports, you know,

500
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 7: there's a segment at maybe an hour in that because A,

501
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 7: I'd vote for you, b if you were president of sports.

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Speaker 7: Two things, and I mentioned this on one of the

503
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Speaker 7: Saturday shows. Get golf reporters to stop calling Saturday moving

504
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Speaker 7: day as if there's no movement in the standings any

505
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Speaker 7: other day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

507
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Speaker 3: I love that.

508
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm pretty sure all of the strokes count

509
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Speaker 2: all four days.

510
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Speaker 3: That's my understanding of the rules.

511
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Speaker 7: And for those who say, yeah, but it's like, you know,

512
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Speaker 7: people move on.

513
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Speaker 5: People move on other days, not just Saturday. Thank you

514
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 5: Where that came from? That oh it's moving day?

515
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Speaker 3: Cute?

516
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

517
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Speaker 2: I will say I have teenagers and some days in

518
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Speaker 2: the summer they don't move. They're like, so oh them,

519
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: I'm be like, so it's moving day. You're gonna have

520
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: to get up and go some Well.

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Speaker 7: The other thing is get an ASCAR to stop calling

522
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 7: the Daytona five hundred our super Bowl. If I hear

523
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 7: one more time, you know that's our super Bowl. I

524
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 7: think you don't understand the concept of what a super

525
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 7: Bowl is. It doesn't mean big event people. It's a

526
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 7: big event because it decides the champion. Do I have

527
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 7: to actually say that out loud? So if those two

528
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 7: things you could just get them to stop permanently, you'll

529
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Speaker 7: have my vote. Every four years, I will put those

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Speaker 7: on the platform.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna put a team together and we're gonna do this.

532
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Speaker 2: I love the title President of sports.

533
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Speaker 4: Man to say, clear your nine pm hour next Saturday,

534
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Speaker 4: because I think we did stumble upon something.

535
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Speaker 7: Meanwhile, US man soccer was playing at the Dallas Cowboys

536
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 7: Stadium Tonight's and in Arlington. The US shutout Bolivia two

537
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 7: nothing the final. Christian Polisics scored in the third minute,

538
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 7: got an assist late first half. Dominant offensive first half

539
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 7: for the Americans, in fact, eighteen touches inside the attacking

540
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Speaker 7: penalty area compared to none for Bolivia in the first half. Polisic,

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Speaker 7: the young US star, in about two and a half

542
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Speaker 7: minutes into the game, scored fastest American goal against the

543
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Speaker 7: South American opponents in thirty four competitive matches all time,

544
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 7: curled to rf foot shot just packs the fingertips of

545
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Speaker 7: the goalie and into the upper right corner. So that's

546
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Speaker 7: thirty international goals for Polisic in only sixty nine games,

547
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Speaker 7: with the US fastest to thirty goals of any American.

548
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Speaker 7: The US next in Copa America will be playing in

549
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Speaker 7: Atlanta on Thursday against Panama. Panama starts in a half

550
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Speaker 7: an hour in Miami on Fox TV against Uruguay. Bolivia.

551
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 7: Let's just say it out loud is not good. Ranked

552
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Speaker 7: eighty fourth in the world. So for the US to

553
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Speaker 7: win two nothing, yes, a victory is expected. Could have

554
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 7: been more. Bolivia has lost thirteen straight matches in the

555
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Speaker 7: Copa America tournament, dating back to twenty eight fifteen. Tomorrow

556
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 7: night on FS one Brazil against Costa Rica in La

557
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 7: Argentina plays Tuesday night in New Jersey against Chile. The

558
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 7: tournament started this past Thursday with an Argentina win in

559
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Speaker 7: Atlanta over a million viewers on FS one for that

560
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 7: At the Euro Soccer Tournament Germany, the host country tied

561
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Speaker 7: Switzerland one to one with a late goal. Scotland was eliminated,

562
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Speaker 7: losing one nothing to Hungary on a goal in the

563
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Speaker 7: one hundredth minute. Christopher Bell took tonight's NASCAR race at

564
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Speaker 7: New Hampshire. Chase Briscoe finished second. WNBA Chicago defeated Indiana

565
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 7: eighty eight eighty seven. Angel reached twenty five points sixteen rebounds.

566
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Speaker 7: Caitlin clark In defeats seventeen points, thirteen assists. At the

567
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Speaker 7: College World Series. Number one Tennessee forced a game three tomorrow,

568
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Speaker 7: beating number four ranked Texas A and M four to one.

569
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Speaker 7: In tonight's MLB game bottom of the fifth at Wrigley Field,

570
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 7: the Mets are shutting out the Cubs for nothing, and

571
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Speaker 7: Texas won its fourth straight for nothing over Kansas City.

572
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Speaker 7: The winning pitcher was Max schurz Are going five innings

573
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Speaker 7: in his season debut. And you mentioned Scotti Scheffler. Yes,

574
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 7: he won the Travelers in a playoff in Connecticut, his

575
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 7: sixth victory already this season. Tom Kim finished second. Cameron

576
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 7: Young shot sixty six and tied for ninth place after

577
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Speaker 7: a fifty nine on Saturday.

578
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Speaker 5: Some call it moving day. Sorry, sorry, I do it.

579
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Speaker 5: I had to do it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't move far off.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, moved right up and then right back down. The

582
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Speaker 7: amazing figures. He shot fifty nine. That wasn't even the

583
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Speaker 7: course record. There Jim Furrick shot his fifty eight, the

584
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Speaker 7: tour record there in twenty sixteen. By the way, Storming

585
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 7: the eighteenth green today, while the tournament leaders were lining

586
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 7: up putts were six climate protesters, delaying the finish for

587
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 7: about five minutes. An activist group with a history of

588
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Speaker 7: disrupting events around the world, claim responsibility, and in a

589
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 7: statement said, golf, more than other events, is heavily reliant

590
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Speaker 7: on good weather. Golf fans should therefore understand better than

591
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Speaker 7: most the need for strong, immediate climate action. End quote

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Speaker 7: back to you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for doing that.

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Speaker 2: Because as I heard about this earlier, and I immediately

595
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Speaker 2: wanted to and I mean this in all seriousness, I

596
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: wanted to pull the protesters aside and say, look, you

597
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: guys got to rework how.

598
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Speaker 3: You're doing things. Nobody knows what you protest.

599
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of like that really really funny commercial that

600
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: someone tells you about and you're like, what was it for.

601
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: They're like, I don't know, but it was hilarious.

602
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: I'm like that it was a terrible ad, Like you

603
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: got to you gotta let us know what you're mad

604
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 2: about before you storm the tower.

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Speaker 3: So that so climate protesters.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, see this, when you run for president of sports,

607
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 7: we will actually have placard signs on the corner. We'll

608
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 7: be more specific in what we're desiring.

609
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and I and also as the

610
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Speaker 2: President of Sports, I'm in favor of climate. Yeah, I

611
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: think we should have one. I really do for all

612
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Speaker 2: the sports. I think all of them should have their

613
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: own client.

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00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 7: Pretty good, even indoors.

615
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: You say, oh, basketball, you know a little more wiggle room,

616
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: but but they're right, golf needs climate.

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Speaker 7: So I oh, speaking of indoors, can I bring up

618
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 7: one thing that Aaron and I were talking about last night.

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Speaker 7: Did you hear the announcement of the LA Olympic organizers

620
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Speaker 7: that the swimming competition in twenty twenty eight at the

621
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Speaker 7: Summer Games is going to be at the La Rams

622
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Speaker 7: Football Stadium.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

624
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 7: The original idea is maybe we can put a pool

625
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 7: on top of the USC baseball field. And then they've

626
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 7: seen what's going on this week with the Olympic swim

627
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 7: trials at the Colt Stadium. They built a temporary pool

628
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 7: over the concrete floor, put one of those big black

629
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Speaker 7: curtains over the fifty yard line and they're having twenty

630
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Speaker 7: two thousand people at a swim meet using half the arena.

631
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're going to do this at SOFI Stadium.

632
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Speaker 7: That is correct, twenty twenty eight.

633
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Speaker 2: And they specifically said it would be at the Rams Stadium.

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Speaker 3: That's how they announced it.

635
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 7: No, that's how I announced it because o'kay. Good, that's

636
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Speaker 7: what built.

637
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Speaker 2: That's what it is. Yeah, no, I know that's what

638
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: it is. I just I just like it. I like

639
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: it when the Chargers are just left out of things.

640
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: I just enjoy it.

641
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 7: Well, let's just say it. Honestly, the Chargers got lucky

642
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 7: with this building, just like the Raiders got lucky with

643
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 7: a building. Nevada is paying most of the Raiders building.

644
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 7: It's not the Raiders Stadium. It's the State of Nevada Stadium.

645
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 7: So across the street from the Rams Stadium. You're aware

646
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 7: that the Clippers are da again. Their money is being built,

647
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 7: and that's going to host Olympic basketball.

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Speaker 3: In San Diego. Don't call them Los Angeles Chargers.

649
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: The only team in sports that plays all that not

650
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Speaker 2: true on the road.

651
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Speaker 7: Not yeah you say that, No, it's not close to truth.

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Speaker 3: All all of they play all road games.

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Speaker 7: No, actually, never having attended literally every Charger home game

654
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Speaker 7: since they moved to Los Angeles. You get exactly what

655
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 7: you used to get in San Diego when it's a

656
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 7: national team like the Steelers or Cowboys or Raiders, complete

657
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 7: takeover of the stadium. When it's the Bengals or Arizona,

658
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Speaker 7: very loud pro Charger crowd.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's not as fun.

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Speaker 2: If I'm president of Sports all Charger games.

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Speaker 7: Careful, careful, you're risking my vote, Mark Willard.

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Speaker 4: Willard, How I know that we actually worked together at

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00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: one point, because now there was one point we were

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Speaker 4: on either right after one of the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 4: games where they took over Sofi Stadium. I vividly remember

666
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Speaker 4: this because I had a buddy like, why is every

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Speaker 4: rams forty nine Ers game in Los Angeles in.

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Speaker 5: Percent forty nine Ers?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 5: And even like I know you were just like I

671
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Speaker 5: talk about this every single day.

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Speaker 7: Even the NFC title game had so many forty nine

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Speaker 7: I think it might have been Yes, sorry sir.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you what, I don't know what happened

675
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: to that fan base within the last six or seven years.

676
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 2: They take over almost every bill I'm not kidding. It's

677
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: like it's way worse in LA for sure. But I'm

678
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: telling you, man, that has been and I have data.

679
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: Now this isn't just me making it up. That has

680
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: been the best traveling NFL fan base in America, which

681
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: is odd, like you know what I mean, because it's

682
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: not that kind of market. It's not Pittsburgh, it's not

683
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay, but they are just maybe there's too much

684
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: money in Bay Area. I don't know, but people are

685
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: buying plane tickets every damn week in the NFL season.

686
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Speaker 3: It's wild.

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Speaker 5: I just I remember.

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Speaker 4: I think it was right after the NFC Championship game,

689
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: not like that night, but a week or two after

690
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Speaker 4: or whenever they played in the end.

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Speaker 5: I think it was.

692
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: It must have been the year the Rams went to

693
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl at the Tart dropped interception.

694
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Speaker 5: Whatever, we need to relitigate.

695
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Speaker 4: And I think maybe I was working the weekend between.

696
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Speaker 4: Maybe we filled it. Maybe I don't think you haven't

697
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Speaker 4: filled it on any saturdays. I just know that I

698
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: asked you that because I had other people ask me,

699
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 4: because it was I think it was after the NFC

700
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: Championship game, like, and people were looking at it as

701
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: more of a slight to the Rams of like, how

702
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: can you not sell out in such anyway. I know,

703
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: we gotta get come back and talk about what we

704
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 4: got to talk about. But I just remember us having

705
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: that conversation.

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Speaker 2: I'm yeah, now you're you're actually jogging some memories here

707
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: for sure. But uh but yeah, well we'll get into

708
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: all of that. And by the way, not done yet

709
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: with this this NBA conversation about where things sort of

710
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: stand in terms of attention, and with a JJ Reddick

711
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: news conference coming up now at one thirty Pacific tomorrow afternoon.

712
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: I think there's some things we need to get into there,

713
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: and we will. We're in the tiraq dot com studios.

714
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Speaker 2: Aeron Tours is in for e from on Mark Willard.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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719
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Speaker 1: listen live.

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Speaker 2: All right, Aaron Torres is in forree from Mark Willard.

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Speaker 2: Aarontors with you live ti raq dot com Studios. Maybe

722
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Speaker 2: it's not industry rule number four thousand and eighty, but

723
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: reminder number four thousand and eighty.

724
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Speaker 3: Yes you do like dynasties, Yes you do.

725
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Like the same day team over and over don't show

726
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: up to that Super Bowl party and say I'm so

727
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: suck of Tom Brady. No you're not, No you're not.

728
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: And the ratings prove this over and over and over again.

729
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: It's one of the funny things in sports fandom is

730
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: fans will say, gos, I'm so sick of Team X.

731
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: I really love parody.

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Speaker 2: I love it when everybody, all these different teams have

733
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: a shot every year. Well, our behavior repeatedly suggests otherwise.

734
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Speaker 2: And I do think that's what the NBA is suffering

735
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: from right now through these playoffs. And when I say suffering,

736
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: it's not like something is awful or or or not fixable.

737
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: But you said it a handful of minutes ago. Bub

738
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: when you're like, look, they just don't they don't have

739
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: that team. And if you don't have that team, sometimes

740
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: we sort of just feel like we're a wayward ship.

741
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: Like we don't know what we're comparing this that or

742
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: the other two. We don't know what our measuring stick is.

743
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Speaker 2: So this takes nothing away from Boston or their style.

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00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: They're the best team. They were the best team the

745
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Speaker 3: whole time.

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00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: Somehow they quietly just meandered their way through this whole

747
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: thing as like clearly the dominant team, but this idea

748
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: that every year it could be Denver and then there's

749
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: Boston and Milwaukee got one and now Jannis doesn't even

750
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Speaker 2: get out of.

751
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: The first round.

752
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Speaker 2: We're sort of just like aimless without having that team.

753
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Speaker 2: So that that's what the NBN. There's no like, there's

754
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: no way to just like snap your fingers and do this. However,

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Speaker 2: I do think this is a very interesting offseason that's

756
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: about to unfold because we've got a lot of big

757
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: names that could be changing places, and the NBA would

758
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: benefit if they had that sex appeal team that everyone

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00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: wanted to compare themselves to.

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Speaker 4: All I'll say that really quick is what's interesting about

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Speaker 4: that is you look at the Celtics, you look at

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Speaker 4: the Nuggets, you look at the Warriors last three NBA champions,

763
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 4: all their best players were internal and home grown. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, Stephan Clay and I'm sure we'll talk about

765
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 4: Clay at some point. Steph Clay Draymond were all drafted

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Speaker 4: by the Warriors, Yo Kitchen Murray were drafted by the Nuggets,

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00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: and of course, obviously Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum were

768
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Speaker 4: drafted by Boston. And by the way, credit to Brad

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Speaker 4: Stevens for bringing in to Derek White, bringing into Porzingis, etc.

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Speaker 4: But the core is basically, you know, developed, and so

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Speaker 4: I think that's a really interesting thing. Something is going

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Speaker 4: to happen this offseason. And all of NBA twitters go,

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Speaker 4: oh my goodness, Bradley Beale didn't really do much. The

774
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: Sager and me and Jay mart were talking about this

775
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 4: last night is like, we got so crazy about the

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Speaker 4: Dame Lillard trade.

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Speaker 5: It was Drew Holliday going the other way. That was

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Speaker 5: the X factor in that trade.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna get excited and maybe it'll make something

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Speaker 4: more interesting. But the last couple your show us that

781
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 4: you got to build it from within continuity. That's what

782
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 4: wins in the NBA is teams that have been together.

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Speaker 4: And yes, you can drop a key piece like a

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Speaker 4: Drew Holiday in, but I agree with you, like, normally

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Speaker 4: when we get this this team that is built with

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Speaker 4: puzzle pieces in the off season, dude, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: It Just like we've got a bunch.

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Speaker 2: Of those examples now, over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: So all right, much more on that. You mentioned Clay

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Speaker 2: Clay is coming up. But coming up next, let's get

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Speaker 2: to JJ Reddick, because not only is there oppressor tomorrow,

792
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Speaker 2: but what did he call you?

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Speaker 5: We?

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Speaker 3: That's right, Aaron's in for e from the night.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I rolled around all week long. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna need to talk about the Lakers, the state

801
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: of the Lakers, the head coaching situation, and JJ Reddick.

802
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to talk about this this weekend.

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00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: And then I come to find out that maybe JJ

804
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: Redick means even a little something.

805
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: More to you than the average bear.

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00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: Please please do set this up on what's going on

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Speaker 2: with you and JJ Redick.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Okay, I you know I feel bad for Disager

809
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 4: and Mary who heard this whole story yesterday. But I'll

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Speaker 4: try to be brief. I'll try to be as brief

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Speaker 4: as I can be. But twenty twenty two NCAA Tournament. Okay,

812
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: so listen I'm a college oops guy, Okay, yes, end

813
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Speaker 4: of the day. I understand it's a niche sport. A

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Speaker 4: couple of months a year, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 4: weeks a year. Excuse me, not even a couple months

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00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: unless you're a diehard. Okay, that's fine. Elite eight game

817
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: Villanova versus Houston that was still when Jay Wright was

818
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: at Villanova, and it was kind of one of these like.

819
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Speaker 5: Low scoring, really physical games.

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Speaker 4: And I get it wasn't the most aesthetically pleasing game, okay,

821
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: and so, but it was also one of those games

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00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: where all the NBA fans came, they parachuted in and

823
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 4: spent the whole time complaining about how awful the product.

824
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's such a bad product. Blah blah

825
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, this and that and so. So you know,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't a great game, but part of it was

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Speaker 4: Houston and Villanova at the time were two of the

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Speaker 4: most physical teams, and bluntly, the rules of college basketball

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Speaker 4: just allow you to play defense differently than you can

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Speaker 4: in the NBA. Like, I don't think most people wouldn't

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Speaker 4: debate that. Stan Van Gundy said in the NCAA Tournament

832
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Speaker 4: this year. He couldn't believe the physicality that's allowed in

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Speaker 4: college basketball. That's a decision by the NBA took out

834
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Speaker 4: the hand check whatever. So I'm watching the game, I'm

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Speaker 4: seeing everybody criticize, and I put out a pretty harmless

836
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Speaker 4: tweet March twenty six, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 5: I said, I love all.

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Speaker 4: The arguments I'm seeing today about the quality of play

839
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: in college hoops or the product or whatever. Trust me,

840
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Speaker 4: of NBA teams played forty eight minutes of defense like

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00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 4: Houston and Villanova are tonight, We'd see a lot of

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Speaker 4: games in the seventies and eighties in that league too,

843
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Speaker 4: And so I bring it up. You know, listen, some

844
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Speaker 4: people use social media in different ways. I just kind

845
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: of use it as a stream of consciousness. I say

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Speaker 4: what I'm thinking at the time. Well, NBA Twitter gets

847
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 4: a hold of that, and oh my goodness, the audacity

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Speaker 4: to imagine a world where a team scores in the

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Speaker 4: seventies and eighties. By the way, Mark Willard, the losing

850
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: team in three of five finals games scored in the

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00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 4: eighties this year. But that's neither here nor there. So

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00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: NBA Twitter is coming after me. And then the King

853
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Speaker 4: of NBA Twitter decides that he wants to chime in.

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Speaker 4: That would be current Lakers head coach JJ Reddick says,

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Speaker 4: and he just tweets tell me. He quote tweets me,

856
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 4: tell me you don't watch the NBA without telling me

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00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 4: you don't watch the NBA. And so I kind of

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00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: try to be diplomatic about and say, I think you're

859
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: misunderstanding what I said. It basically got nowhere. He was

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00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: being an arrogant whatever and whatever. I moved past it.

861
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: I don't really care people, you know, come after me

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00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 4: for all sorts of weird stuff.

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Speaker 5: It's fine.

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Speaker 4: So about two three weeks later, I'm sitting there doing work.

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Speaker 4: The tournament is over, this is long since past, and

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Speaker 4: my phone starts blowing up and everybody's like, Torres, did

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Speaker 4: you see what JJ Reddick said on his podcast about you?

868
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Speaker 4: And I was like, JJ, why would JJ Reddick be

869
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 4: talking about me on his podcast? While I get sent

870
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: the clip. This is from the old man in the

871
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: three podcasts. By the way, Kevin Durant was his guest,

872
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: and this is what he had to say about your buddy, Torres.

873
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: I had this tweet the other day.

874
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 8: Some knucklehead said if NBA teams played defense as hard

875
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 8: as college kids. I bet you the scores would be

876
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 8: in the seventies and eighties. Two, First of all, I

877
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 8: mean it's just math. First of all, the shot clocks longer,

878
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 8: so there's gonna be more possessions in NBA game and

879
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 8: there's eight more minutes of basketball.

880
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: So Heed, that's not possible.

881
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 4: That was your current Lakers head coach JJ Reddick to

882
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: two quick side things. One, there is a happy ending

883
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: if your team tour is on this because what ended

884
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 4: up happening Mark Willard. So, I'm from the East Coast,

885
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: grew up in Connecticut, and you know, we have an

886
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 4: old saying where I come from, we don't start fights,

887
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: but we finish him. Well, what ended up happening was

888
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 4: in the weirdest twist of fate ever for a basketball

889
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: novice like me. Once we got to the playoffs and

890
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: the defense ramped up that year, we started seeing a

891
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 4: lot of games where teams ended up scoring in the

892
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: seventies or eighties. So I just wanted to make sure

893
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 4: my buddy JJ knew every single time, just in case

894
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 4: he missed it. Because it's a math equation, f head,

895
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 4: it's common sense there's eight more minutes. I mean, teams

896
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 4: don't score in the seventies and eighties, so I kind

897
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 4: of just made it a priority, you know, every time

898
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: the Suns played the Nets. Oh hey, JJ, just quick

899
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: ends up. Did you see the score of the Sun

900
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 4: Nets game? The Nets only scored eighty nine. Just wanted

901
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: to make sure you saw that, JJ, And so I

902
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: kept doing that, probably did it ten twelve times. Then

903
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 4: people who listen to my show and kind of were

904
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: aware of the interaction.

905
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 5: They started tweeting JJ. So eventually he blocked me.

906
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, as I said, oh yeah,

907
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 4: so so yes, I'm blocked by the Lakers current head coach,

908
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 4: and as I said, three of the NBA Finals games.

909
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: And by the way, I forget who was on the

910
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: call for the NBA Finals Mike Breen, Doris Burke. I

911
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: can't you know, I'm blanking on who the third person

912
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: was in the booth. Three of those games ended with

913
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 4: a team scoring in the eighties. So I feel like,

914
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 4: you know, listen, I'm I'm not the next pat Riley

915
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: according to the Lakers, but I think it's uh Torres one,

916
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: JJ Reddick.

917
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 5: Nothing. Despite the derogatory verbiage used against me.

918
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: So are you going to the press conference tomorrow?

919
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: Bleephead.

920
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 4: So it's really funny you say that because I was

921
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 4: talking to somebody in office and they were like, if

922
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 4: you just because I don't cover the NBA, I don't

923
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: have any contacts at the Lakers, And somebody was just like,

924
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 4: if you just ask so and so, and I'm not

925
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: saying I won't say who it is, if you just

926
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 4: ask so and so, like he can get you a

927
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: press pass and I and I really want to because

928
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 4: I just want to, you know, ask a question. Some

929
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: of the effect of hey, coach, you know, congrats on

930
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: the new gig.

931
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 5: Was just curious.

932
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: You once said that it's impossible for teams to score

933
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 4: fewer than ninety points because quote, it's a math equation,

934
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 4: f head, and just curious what that says kind of

935
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: about the defensive philosophy whatever.

936
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: But I thine amazing, what would be amazing?

937
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: Please do it?

938
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 5: Aaron, come on, okay, so the rest of us okay.

939
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: So if I if I try to get a press

940
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 4: pass and it says Fox Sports on it, I don't

941
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 4: want to be the guy that embarrasses the company.

942
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: So you're giving me permission the ball.

943
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: If the boss has come to me and say, tours

944
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 4: you started a scene at JJ Reddicks press conference. I'm saying, well,

945
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: Mark Willard, do you let me fill in with them

946
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: that one time? And he said that I had to

947
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: be there for journalistic purposes.

948
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: I think you should even go instead of saying because

949
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: maybe this will keep it on the down low.

950
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: Instead of having the words Aaron.

951
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 5: Torres on your control.

952
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: You should have it say foxhead, fox.

953
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 5: Head, Yeah, that's kind of what he said.

954
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: Foxhead.

955
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go there, and please asked that question, and yeah,

956
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: don't don't call him go don't call him coach, So

957
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: don't call him coach, like like call him by the

958
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: name that you guys give each other. You should do that.

959
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 4: I should let me ask you a question though, And

960
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to make this about me, but whatever,

961
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: I kind of I've hijacked this segment. I tried to

962
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 4: push on J Mart last night. I know that at

963
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: that point he had no idea that he was obviously

964
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: ever going to be a head coach. But I did

965
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: say to J Mart, I was like, would Doc Rivers

966
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 4: ever even on a podcast? Would Doc Rivers ever talk

967
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 4: like that? Would Eric Spolstrev talk like that, and Jmart

968
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: wasn't ready to say that it's some indictment on who

969
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 4: he is, right, But I do kind of think like,

970
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know, I'm probably being too

971
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: sensitive about it.

972
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 5: What I actually really don't care, But I just I

973
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 5: don't know.

974
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: I just you know, it's only And jmar brought up

975
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: the good point of like it's kind of like, you know,

976
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 4: we're at the point now where like you're smart enough

977
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 4: to know you don't put something dumb on social media

978
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: because it might not impact you today, but five years

979
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: from now you might be interviewing for a job and

980
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: your future boss might say, hey, Mark Willard, hey errator,

981
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: is that thing that you tweeted out in twenty twenty four.

982
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the best representation of this company.

983
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 4: And it just feels like I don't just felt like,

984
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm probably being too sensitive. But to me,

985
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 4: I think it just speaks to the kind of guy

986
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: he is, the arrogance and you know, besides the basketball

987
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 4: acumen that clearly might not be there.

988
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 5: I don't know, I think, yeah, it's not anyway.

989
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, here's what I would actually say about this,

990
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: and and I'm gonna maybe run the risk of having

991
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: one leg on each side of the fence your team.

992
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: Jay, No, no, no, no, no, no, not at all, not at all.

993
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 2: But but but with regard to the idea that JJ

994
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: doesn't fit the mold, you know, do the Lakers want

995
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: a head coach who's speaking to people this way on

996
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: social media? During Depending on where you were listening, you

997
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: may or may not have heard our last commercial stop

998
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: set where there's audio of Dan Patrick talking about I

999
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: don't want my head coach with a podcast and a

1000
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: backwards hat. Colin Cowherd has done this for years. I

1001
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: don't want I want my quarterbacks to be quarterback you know,

1002
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: I don't want guys to have a backwards hat.

1003
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: Listen, here's what I would say about that.

1004
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: I do think that when that becomes a thing for you,

1005
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more about you than it is

1006
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 2: about them. In other words, it's usually more about your

1007
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: age than anything else. And I'm not some spring chicken either,

1008
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: But if you've got a problem with a quarterback having

1009
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: a backwards hat, that's because of when you were born,

1010
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: Like you'd have no data that suggests that means there's

1011
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: a problem at the position because the quarterback's got a

1012
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: backward hat. Here's what I mean by this. I'm not

1013
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 2: saying JJ is a great hire. I do think there's

1014
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: a lot to discuss about this, and we will. But

1015
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: I do also think we've got to start breaking down

1016
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: some of our barriers. We've got to open our mind

1017
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: to what a leader looks like, sounds like, feels like.

1018
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to fit.

1019
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: In a box.

1020
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: I think it's really an underlying theme of a lot

1021
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: of things we talk about right now. It doesn't need

1022
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: to fit in a box. The WNBA is selling out arenas.

1023
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't need to fit in your old style box.

1024
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: So if JJ reddick, you know, look, coaches are wearing

1025
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: sweatsuits now, sure on the sideline, so this is already

1026
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna look different. I think these are two different subjects,

1027
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: and I don't think that's what you were getting at

1028
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 2: at all. But I know that there's that piece of this,

1029
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: which is that JJ doesn't fit the mold. I don't

1030
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: really have an issue with that because I don't know

1031
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: what the mold is anymore, and I don't know why

1032
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: it exists.

1033
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 4: Sure, and I will say like in JJ's defense, Wait,

1034
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 4: am I team JJ?

1035
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: Now?

1036
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 5: Did I turn on myself? No, I'm kidding.

1037
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 4: But like, I think that's part of why they hired him, right,

1038
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: is that you know, it isn't just the retread guy

1039
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: who made the finals fifteen years ago. That sounds like

1040
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 4: at Doc Rivers.

1041
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 5: It's not.

1042
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 4: It's just that was the hypothetical there. Like he's young,

1043
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 4: he's new. I mean even in kind of the reporting

1044
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: after he got hired, you know, he embraces analytics, but

1045
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 4: he's not paralyzed by them. And so I will say

1046
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 4: in his defense, independent of what he said about anybody

1047
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: and how he's spoken on any podcast, you know, I

1048
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 4: think that is part of why the Lakers did hire him.

1049
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 4: And and you know, again, I know we're gonna have

1050
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: plenty more time to talk about the higher and his

1051
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: relationship with Lebron and all that stuff, but I do

1052
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 4: think there is something to that. Is like you said,

1053
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: the mold is quickly changing, and let's be honest. You know,

1054
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: if this works out, JJ Reddick is going to be

1055
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: with the organization post Lebron James. You know, there's gonna

1056
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 4: be some younger guys from a younger generation. He can

1057
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 4: probably relate to him better. So I actually do think

1058
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 4: that is a fair counterpoint by you, Mark, which is

1059
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 4: that you know, we've we've tried with the Lakers the

1060
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: Frank Vogel type and it obviously it resulted in a championship.

1061
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 5: But part of the reason why I JJ.

1062
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: Reddick was hired was so in demand, not just from

1063
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: the Lakers, from other people, is because because he doesn't

1064
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 4: fit that old school mold. And as you said, that

1065
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: that old school mold doesn't even exist anymore.

1066
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: Okay, but what does this all say about the state

1067
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: of the Lakers franchise. I happen to think that that's

1068
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: a different question and answer. We'll get to that coming

1069
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: up next. Glad you're with us tonight, whatever it is

1070
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 2: you're doing. Bleeped Torres is in fray from Salam along

1071
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 2: with Yes, sorry, I mean that's your name, So along

1072
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: with me, Mark Waller.

1073
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio.

1074
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 2: Sores Mark Wheler on Sunday Night Fox Sports Radio, and

1075
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: we are live in the tyrack dot Com studios.

1076
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 3: Here's where I'm coming from on JJ Reddick.

1077
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: And it's not even really that much about JJ Reddick,

1078
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: because one thing that I don't really love to do.

1079
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: I don't mind if others do, but I'm not going

1080
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: to tell you that this is a bad hire until

1081
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 2: I know it's a bad hire, and it's not yet.

1082
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: Because the Lakers might win the next twelve championships in

1083
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: a row. I don't know if they did that, being

1084
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: pretty credible, but like I personally, and I know you're

1085
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: a huge college sports guy, so I'd love your perspective

1086
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: on this too. Let's go back to what I said

1087
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: first hour. When I'm president of sports, you know what

1088
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: else I'm going to do away with? Ready for it?

1089
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 5: You're ready, I can guess.

1090
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: Go ahead, give me a guess.

1091
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 5: Grading coaching hires well close.

1092
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 3: Draft grades?

1093
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, gone.

1094
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: You will never again in the history of your life

1095
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: have to deal with waking up the morning after the

1096
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: NFL Draft to find that your team gotta be minus.

1097
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 4: You know, it's actually worse than draft grades. What in

1098
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: my opinion, it's the redraft. It's like, oh, well, if

1099
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 4: we were doing this draft over, Philadelphia would have taken you,

1100
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 4: honest and he'd be paired with Joelle. And it's like,

1101
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: but it's that didn't happen, so why are we It's

1102
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 4: the weirdest thing. And I guess people are click those articles.

1103
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 4: I just think it's the dumbest thing. So you can

1104
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 4: you could get your rid of your draft grades. Redrafts

1105
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 4: are dead when I am sports commissioner or sports president

1106
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 4: or whatever.

1107
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: Perfectly, Yeah, that's I'm into it because that's essentially just

1108
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: ranking the players. That's just a different way of being Like,

1109
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: so here's how it actually worked out. Like, if you

1110
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: want to do draft grades, I do them that way. Okay,

1111
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty four. Go back and tell me what

1112
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: grade my team got in twenty twenty one. Tell me

1113
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: that I don't need a redraft. Tell me now how

1114
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: they did. That would be at least, I don't know,

1115
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: somewhat useful. But the whole thing of deciding this is

1116
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: good or bad the second that it happens, you actually

1117
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 2: don't know yet.

1118
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: And I'm not here to be anti content.

1119
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: I get it, mock draft grades whatever, not gonna win

1120
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: that battle. But here's my takeaway from what we just

1121
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: watched happen over the last three weeks, because this is

1122
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: something that I can already comment on because I do know,

1123
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: and that is is that something's wrong with the Laker organization.

1124
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: Something is wrong and I can't I can't even sit

1125
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: here and tell you exactly who, or why or what.

1126
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is this is as clunky of

1127
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: a process as I have ever seen. And for the

1128
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: fact that it's the Lakers, the freaking Lakers, Aaron, I

1129
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: don't know why more people who cover that organization and

1130
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: are fans of that organization aren't sounding along. How long

1131
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: ago would it have been if I had said this

1132
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: to you Laker fans, you'd have lost your damn minds.

1133
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: Lakers need a new coach. And here's what's gonna happen.

1134
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna get nationwide rumors of somebody who how how

1135
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: old is JJ? How old is JJ? You know off

1136
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: the top of.

1137
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 5: Your head, thirty nine to forty one?

1138
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, all right. So we're gonna get

1139
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: nationwide rumors two weeks ahead of time that a potentially

1140
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: not even forty year old podcast hosts who made his

1141
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: name mainly with the Clippers is your main target. And

1142
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: then all of the sudden, we're gonna do an about face.

1143
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: We are going to target I don't care how accomplished

1144
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: he is a college coach.

1145
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: That college coach.

1146
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: Is gonna take us on a week and a half

1147
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: journey where we climb a staircase, talk about money, know

1148
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: his every move every five hours for an entire week

1149
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: and a half climb all the way to the top,

1150
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: where he sits in a chair and says to us,

1151
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you tomorrow, and then comes out tomorrow.

1152
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 5: To go, nah, I'm good.

1153
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: And then we pivot back to almost forty year old

1154
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: podcast hosts and hire him, who may or may not

1155
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: have been the quote unquote real target all along. I

1156
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: don't care who you hire, but this is messy, disorganized public,

1157
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: and not the way you drew it up, no matter

1158
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: how many times you tell me, this is how you

1159
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: drew it up. And I've never known, no matter good, bad,

1160
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: or of or otherwise in terms of their higher I've

1161
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: never known the Laker operation to be so clunky as

1162
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: it was over the last month of our lives.

1163
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 4: Well, I really do think that this month exactly the

1164
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: timeframe that you laid out. Maybe it's because I live

1165
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 4: in LA you know, maybe it's because working at Fox

1166
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: Sports Radio we have a ton of Lakers fans behind

1167
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 4: the scenes working here. I think this was just like

1168
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 4: exposure at how like, I have known how messy this

1169
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: organization was, and it's funny to go back to the

1170
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 4: Dan Hurley thing. And I've said this many times on

1171
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: these airwaves, so forgive me if you've heard me say

1172
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 4: this audience out there. But not only am my college guy,

1173
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 4: but I actually went to Yukon. So anytime I say anything,

1174
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 4: it's oh, you're you're a Yukon homer. But when Dan

1175
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 4: Hurley went through that process, I was blown away by

1176
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 4: the number of people that were like, well, I mean,

1177
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 4: tore you just you don't turn down the Lakers. And

1178
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 4: I was like, really, you don't. You don't turn down

1179
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 4: the Lakers because two of their last three head coaches

1180
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 4: were Darvin Ham who had never had a head coaching job,

1181
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 4: Luke Walton, who had basically never had a head coaching job.

1182
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 4: It's like, people turn down the Lakers all the time.

1183
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 4: But what I do think that Dan Hurley thing opened

1184
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: people's eyes to is just exactly this how dysfunctional it is.

1185
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 5: And it kind of blows me away.

1186
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 4: Is that really if you take away like like if

1187
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 4: Lebron James, and we can debate who he is now

1188
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 4: in his career whatever, if Lebron James hadn't decided I

1189
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: want to live in LA for reasons other than basketball.

1190
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 4: I mean, we're talking about a decade plus of just incompetence.

1191
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 4: I mean, when was Kobe's last game? Twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen,

1192
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 4: so whatever it is. Then you go through the huge rebuild.

1193
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 4: You draft D'Angelo Russell, you draft Julius Randall, you draft

1194
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 4: Lonzo Ball, you draft Brandon Ingram, and then Lebron decides

1195
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 4: he wants to come and oh, by the way, I'm

1196
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 4: the de facto GM. I'll make sure Anthony Davis comes

1197
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 4: along with me at some point. And it's just like,

1198
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: I was actually surprised that there weren't more people that

1199
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 4: were aware of how dysfunctional this thing is. And by

1200
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 4: the way, it's sort of a credit to Lebron that

1201
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 4: even at forty years old, he's still covering this up

1202
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 4: because they made the Western Conference finals last year and

1203
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 4: of course won the Bubble title in twenty twenty. So

1204
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 4: this has been I think an eye opening thing for

1205
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: America because to your point, and I do actually agree

1206
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: with you, is I was the guy that the second

1207
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 4: guy was hired or a girl was hired or whatever.

1208
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 5: Oh home run knock it and it's like you just

1209
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 5: don't know.

1210
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1211
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 4: But independent of that, even if JJ Reddick is the

1212
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 4: next pat Riley as they're now trying to leak out,

1213
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 4: like the dysfunction in that organization is kind of crazy.

1214
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 4: And like I said, I think from the Dan Hurley

1215
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 4: thing on, I think America got a ro seat to

1216
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 4: just that.

1217
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: Okay, very well said, plenty more to say on it,

1218
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: and we will. But again, when I talk home run highers,

1219
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: I like to look at hires that have already happened

1220
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: and paid dividends, like Steve Desager. That was a home

1221
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: run higher. Welcome back to the show, Steve Hi.

1222
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 5: Hello.

1223
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 7: And as far as Lakers history, they haven't won fifty

1224
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 7: games or had a six hundred winning percentage regular season

1225
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 7: but once since twenty eleven, twenty twelve. Actually, so yeah,

1226
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 7: we're going back a while. And yes, for those who

1227
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 7: didn't hear, the Lakers will introduce JJ Redick as head

1228
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 7: coach tomorrow. Four WNBA games today, including a shock Chicago

1229
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 7: win over Indiana eighty eight to eighty seven. Angel reached

1230
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 7: twenty five points, sixteen rebounds, Caitlin Clark seventeen points, thirteen

1231
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 7: assists in defeat, and seattlebeat Connecticut seventy two to sixty one.

1232
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 7: Connecticut was thirteen and two wins for New York and Washington.

1233
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,479
Speaker 7: Christopher Bell took the NASCAR race at New Hampshire. US

1234
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 7: men's soccer defeated Bolivia too nothing and it's a Copo

1235
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 7: America opener in Arlington, Texas. The Americans had sixty percent

1236
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 7: of the possession. Christian Polisics scored in the third minute.

1237
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 7: The Americans will play Panama on Thursday in Atlanta. At

1238
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 7: Panama is down one nothing to Uruguay after thirty minutes

1239
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 7: in Miami on Fox TV right now. At the Euro

1240
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 7: Soccer Tournament Germany, the host tied Switzerland one to one

1241
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 7: with a late goals. Scotland was eliminated today losing late.

1242
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 7: At the College World Series, Number one Tennessee forced to

1243
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 7: game three tomorrow, beating number four ranked Texas A and

1244
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 7: M four to one. The Met's lead is now four

1245
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 7: to two at Chicago over the Cubs in the bottom

1246
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 7: of the seventh The Yankees Gencarlo Stanton was placed on

1247
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 7: the injured list today with stray hamstring, could miss a month.

1248
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 7: The Yankees acquired JD. Davis from Oakland in New York. Today,

1249
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 7: Atlanta beat the Yanks three to one, winning pitcher Max

1250
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 7: Fried seven to three. Elsewhere, Cleveland won again six '

1251
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 7: five over Toronto. The Blue Jays have lost six in

1252
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 7: a row. Guardians closer Emmanuel Class with his twenty fourth

1253
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 7: save and his ERA is zero point seven to two

1254
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 7: Saint Louis closer Ryan Helsley with his twenty sixth save.

1255
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 7: Cardinals beat the Giants again, five to three. They've won

1256
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 7: three in a row, including the game in Birmingham this

1257
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 7: past week against San Francisco. Giants have lost five straight.

1258
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 7: The Dodgers and Angels were off today. Houston won its

1259
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 7: fifth in a row, eight to one over the Baltimore

1260
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 7: Orioles from Ravaldez. With the win and a win for

1261
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 7: Max Scherzer in his season debut, he went five innings

1262
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 7: in Texas Rangers four nothing over Kansas City. Texas has

1263
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 7: won four in a row. Stanley Cup Game seven is Monday,

1264
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 7: Edmonton at Florida. The Panthers have lost three straight. They

1265
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 7: led three games to none and haven't held a lead

1266
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 7: in any game since, and road teams have won each

1267
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 7: of the past three game sevens in the history of

1268
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 7: the final. Home teams used to dominate in this in

1269
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 7: the final, not recently, and Florida will be home to

1270
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 7: Edmonton on Monday. Scottie Scheffler took the Trackler's in a

1271
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 7: playoff in Connecticut, his sixth victory this season. Tom Kim

1272
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 7: finished second. This is the first time anyone has won

1273
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 7: six times on the PGA Tour before July since Arnold

1274
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 7: Palmer in nineteen sixty two. And yes, there is a

1275
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 7: payout to discuss. It's a pretty healthy one for a

1276
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 7: guy who's used to healthy payouts. This year, Scheffler earns

1277
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 7: three point six million dollars for this weekend's work. And

1278
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 7: then there's the Live Golf Tour in Nashville. Terrell Hatton

1279
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 7: won by six strokes. He gets the usual four million

1280
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 7: dollars for a live golf victory, and on top of that,

1281
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 7: he was part of the team that won the team title.

1282
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 7: He and three others on his team will split three

1283
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 7: million dollars. Final note women's PGA was this weekend. Amy

1284
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 7: Yang wins by three strokes, year into spot on South

1285
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 7: Korea's Olympic golf team for the third time. Yang, age

1286
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 7: thirty four, is the oldest major winner on the LPGA

1287
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 7: Tour since twenty eighteen. This was Yang's seventy fifth career major.

1288
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 7: Start back to you.

1289
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, so Scheffler wins his sixth time this year

1290
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: three point six million Travelers Championship. Where if you're going

1291
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: to call yourself Travelers Championship, all days should be moving days.

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Speaker 2: But but uh, you're telling me that Terrell Hatton made

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01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: almost five MILI today for winning the three day tournament

1294
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 2: that none of us could name.

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01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's three rounds worth in live golf.

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01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: Correct, four million for the win, seven hundred and fifty

1297
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 2: grand for the team win.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he split with John Rahm and two others on

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Speaker 7: his team. Yeah, so their purse is lower the live

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01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 7: golf perse or actually for this weekend, their purses were

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01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 7: the exact same. It's just the winner gets more in

1302
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 7: live golf, and the field is shorter and the tournament

1303
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 7: is shorter.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Willard, can I ask a question really quick?

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01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 3: Of course?

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 4: So we open the show by saying, what makes a star?

1307
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 4: Scottie Scheffler really is a star? So we obviously basically

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 4: virtually everyone that would be deemed a star in golf,

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01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 4: if such a thing exists outside of Tiger Woods. Rory

1310
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 4: McElroy and Scotty Scheffler has basically gone to live at

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01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 4: this point and nobody cares. So could you argue the

1312
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: star of golf is actually the PGA Tour, as in,

1313
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 4: like the player the no player right now now that

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01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 4: Tiger Woods isn't what he was at his apex, is

1315
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 4: actually a star.

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01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 7: Well Scheffler, They have these signature events with the big

1317
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 7: payouts here he's won seven of the eight. So if

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01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 7: that doesn't get you, you know, scream this is the

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01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 7: star of the sport. What will Well No?

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Speaker 5: It's like, but yeah, go ahead, will No.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, like I think people and

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01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 2: I you know, just for people who miss that beginning conversation,

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01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: people know who Scotty Scheffler is. I don't think people

1324
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: are aware of what Scotty's doing right now. He's got

1325
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: a shot for this to be the best here that

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: anyone has ever had ever and so that's kind of

1327
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 2: what I'm getting at. But to your question, I guess

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01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: i'd answer that if you say, is the star the

1329
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: tour itself? My answer would be not if it's going well,

1330
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: because it it will always have it's golfer fan base

1331
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: like it always did. It did it did prior to

1332
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods. But if you want to really grow, if

1333
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: you want to get the casual eyeballs, if you want

1334
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: to go through something like what the WNBA is experiencing

1335
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: right now, then no, then there needs to be people

1336
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: that we want to sit down and follow.

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01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 7: Casual fan is what you mentioned, because this is my

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01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 7: observation as an outsider. They do fine in TV and

1339
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 7: they have people with money that watch their tournaments. Yes,

1340
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 7: so they succeed as a professional enterprise. By the way,

1341
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 7: Scheffler has passed twenty seven million dollars in earnings this year.

1342
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 7: That's just on the course stuff. That's ridiculous and really quick.

1343
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 5: Willard.

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 4: The opposite of the WNBA with Caitlin Clark is what

1345
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 4: we talked about with the NBA, which is that the

1346
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 4: Celtics just don't seem to have that if factor that

1347
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 4: make people want to tune in. And unfortunately because of

1348
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 4: some of the way the playoffs shook out, Like you

1349
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 4: said earlier, and I don't want to put words in

1350
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 4: your mouth, but it felt like there was a big

1351
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 4: lebron steph void in these playoffs.

1352
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 5: I know we're talking about doubt.

1353
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would argue, and this is just by having

1354
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 2: rabbit ears and big eyeballs and nothing else. They have

1355
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: no data in front of me. But my bet would

1356
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: be calendar year twenty twenty four the most talked about

1357
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: basketball player in this country as a woman. I agree,

1358
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: I agree, And that's not a bad thing. But it's

1359
01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 2: not great for the NBA. It's not great for the

1360
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: NBA that that there there's nobody. There's nobody that's sort

1361
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 2: of got people buzzing. And and I sort of made

1362
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: my point about all the silly narratives that we've brought

1363
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: up through the playoffs, because it feels to me like

1364
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: people are searching for that and when they can't find it,

1365
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: you sort of just make it up. They're like, yeah,

1366
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is Michael Jordan. And then you're like, okay,

1367
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: hang on a second. Take two three two, Luca Dowja

1368
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: Chkyrie is the best backcourd of all time.

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Speaker 3: Okay, take three three two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, sorry, we're out of what's July first here

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01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: anytime soon?

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Speaker 5: That's get James hardened? Is he demanded a trade?

1373
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: By the way, She's always demanding a trade I'll see.

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Speaker 4: I actually had the thought on Kaitlyn Clark, and I

1375
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 4: haven't put pen to paper, so this is just part

1376
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 4: of the moment. Is she the most famous basketball player?

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Speaker 4: Like under the age of I again, whether it's twenty

1378
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 4: five whatever.

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Speaker 3: Under the age of twenty five?

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean she probably is.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, it's famous since you since you phrased it

1382
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: that way, I think so.

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Speaker 5: I think so.

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01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 3: I think so. If Anthony Edwards.

1385
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 2: And Caitlin Clark walk through a mall together kids, remember

1386
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: they used to have these things called malls, never mind

1387
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 2: walk through a mall together in a city that's not

1388
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: their home city, take it to be la Anthony Edwards

1389
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: and Caitlin Clark walk through the grove.

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Speaker 3: Who's got a bigger crowd?

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Speaker 5: No, I think it's totally fair.

1392
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 4: And again I haven't totally put pen to paper of Okay,

1393
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 4: what is the official under twenty five crowd?

1394
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: In the end?

1395
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 4: Like who is in the NBA that's under twenty five?

1396
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 4: But it's like, you know, I know this is the

1397
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 4: cliche thing to do. Oh does my grandma, does my mom?

1398
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Speaker 4: Does my wife?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: My wife knows you Kate and Clark is like she

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01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 4: didn't know Anthony Davis's ye and I Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 3: Either of them.

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01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 4: Yes, she doesn't know who Jamal Murray is. You know

1404
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 4: whoever those guys would be. I think it's an interesting

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01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 4: conversation when.

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Speaker 2: The tyrak dot Com studios and not done with your

1407
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 2: Laker comments that you just made.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that coming up next top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: How to sort of maybe say goodbye to a star

1410
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 2: even when you kind of want to but can't say

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01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 2: that you want to. We'll tell you who we're talking

1412
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: about around the band as well. Aaron Torres is in

1413
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: for Ephraim. It's Mark whilerd and Aaron Torres. It's Fox

1414
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Okay with Aaron Torres, Mark Willard Live Tyraq

1415
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: dot com Studios. You were getting it together on the

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01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: Lakers and the dysfunction that you see, and you said,

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01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 2: if Lebron James had not decided that he wanted to

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01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: live in California, who knows where this all would have

1419
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: gone over the last ten, twelve, fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's really really well put.

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01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: I used to have issues with what the Lakers would

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01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: do anytime they needed something, if it wasn't going well,

1423
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: if they needed a new coach. They would immediately pick

1424
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: up the nineteen eighty five team photo.

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: And they'd be like, all right, who do we hire?

1426
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 5: Sure?

1427
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: And so I was often critical of the Lakers for

1428
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: being a little bit too attached to their own history.

1429
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: Somewhat understandable.

1430
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: It's a great history, but if you're not getting better,

1431
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: you're getting worse. All of that, and then sort of

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01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 2: now I feel like they.

1433
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 3: Did start to move through that.

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01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:04,480
Speaker 2: But in that process, yeah, they did hand their organization

1435
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: over to Lebron James in the way that we know

1436
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 2: it has always been the organization belongs to Lebron when

1437
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: he's there. The only partial exception is the Miami Heat

1438
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: because pat Riley is just that way. But they did

1439
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: hand that organization over to Lebron. And you absolutely can

1440
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: fairly accuse the Lakers through the years of being so

1441
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: desperate for any star that they sort of conducted themselves

1442
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 2: that way, like, no matter what, we're star hunting. And

1443
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's necessarily a bad thing. The

1444
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: fans usually love that, especially in LA But like I mean,

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01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: I had these conversations with people in that organization where

1446
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: they're just like, he's out there. I know he's out there,

1447
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: and they were so hell bent on getting that person,

1448
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 2: and they struck out so many times, over and.

1449
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 3: Over and over and over again.

1450
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: And I don't think they even necessarily nailed Lebron with

1451
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: their pitch. Lebron came because that's where Lebron wanted to live.

1452
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 2: You don't need to pitch Lebron. Lebron tells you where

1453
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: he's playing. So to your point, there is something wrong

1454
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: with their internal process in the way they are building rosters, acquisitions,

1455
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 2: and coaching staffs.

1456
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,799
Speaker 4: There's no doubt, there's no listen, you know. And again

1457
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 4: this goes to little bit of the Dan Hurley conversation

1458
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 4: of I'm not saying the Yukon job is better than

1459
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 4: the Lakers job, but it's like you're gonna give up

1460
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 4: everything to go to a place with a forty year

1461
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 4: old superstar, you know, if you want to call him that.

1462
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, he's still a great player or whatever. But

1463
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 4: it's just like it's a really tough situation. By the way,

1464
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 4: we haven't even you know, hit on the elephant in

1465
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 4: the room. Now you gotta draft his son and develop

1466
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 4: his son into an NBA player. It's just it's a

1467
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 4: real mess and you're right, and what I think it

1468
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 4: speaks to to the top is just a total lack

1469
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,839
Speaker 4: of leadership. And it's not even just a lack of leadership,

1470
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 4: it's a lack of confidence in the leadership, right, because

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01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, be decisive.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

1473
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 4: I just you look at Genie, I don't know on

1474
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 4: a personal level. I know you used to live in

1475
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 4: la Maybe you do, Mark and I don't, But it

1476
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 4: just feels like there's just.

1477
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 5: No rhyme or reason to anything that they do there.

1478
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 4: And so again, I just think these last couple of

1479
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 4: weeks have really exposed how dysfunctional this organization is. Is we said,

1480
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 4: I've been wrong on a million coaching hires and draft picks,

1481
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 4: and so maybe I'll I don't really have a strong

1482
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 4: opinion on how JJ Redick will be. I just think

1483
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 4: it's actually a pretty tough situation that he's walking into,

1484
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 4: given how good the West is. But more than anything,

1485
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 4: I think the biggest loser in this whole situation is

1486
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 4: the Lakers, because it is so obvious to anybody that's

1487
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 4: paying attention at all, this is just not the organization

1488
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 4: that a lot of people think it is.

1489
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 2: Well, and I really do wonder who's calling shots and why.

1490
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 2: At this point, there's always evidence when Lebron is on

1491
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 2: a team that he's calling a lot of shots. But

1492
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 2: if we do sort of act like this is probably

1493
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: going to be his last.

1494
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 3: Year, is he playing two more years?

1495
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. My eyes are on the decisions they

1496
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: make during that time. If you're hiring a coach because

1497
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 2: Lebron says so, if you're using a draft pick because

1498
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: that kid has the same DNA as Lebron James, if

1499
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 2: you're doing all of those things just so Lebron can

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01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: turn around and leave a minute later, Wow, there's no

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01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: bigger picture of weakness than that.

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Speaker 4: Well, and but they are though, right, I mean, you know,

1503
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 4: I mean, because like the prudent thing, and I know

1504
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 4: others have discussed it, is you know, he's a free agent.

1505
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, if he opts in, I don't

1506
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 4: think you can really do anything about it, but like

1507
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 4: you could kind of let it be known, Hey, you're

1508
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 4: not really wanted here. You didn't have to hire his guy,

1509
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 4: you don't have to draft his son. And so just

1510
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 4: the fact that maybe that they're moving forward with this

1511
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 4: as the plan, knowing that there's only another year or two.

1512
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 4: Maybe that speaks to how dysfunctional this is.

1513
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a very fair point because

1514
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 2: it's like, like based on what like, you're desperate to

1515
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 2: keep lebron so that you can continue to be the

1516
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: eight seed, you can continue to play in the play

1517
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 2: in tournament. Like I just think if that's, if that's

1518
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 2: what's happening, you have to be prepared to make decisions

1519
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: you don't want to make.

1520
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 3: Let's flash it over to a different.

1521
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: Western Conference team that is also a parent and potentially

1522
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: about to make a very very unpopular decision. And how

1523
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: do you go about saying goodbye when goodbye is hard?

1524
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: We'll get to that coming up next. Aaron Toys is

1525
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1530
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Speaker 2: tire buying should be Aaron. We romanticize sports. It's what

1531
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 2: we do as fans. We find a way to act

1532
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 2: like we know these people or just fall in love

1533
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: with the story. I've done this a lot, where you

1534
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 2: ask people like, why are you such a fan? Why

1535
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: do you love X? You know, fill in the name

1536
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 2: with a sport, a team, a player. Why, And people

1537
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 2: have a hard time answering the question. Something about community involvement,

1538
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: there's something about entertainment. You don't know, just something clicks

1539
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: with you and the next thing you know, you're crying

1540
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,799
Speaker 2: if your team or your player does well, which therefore

1541
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: makes breakups really hard. But sometimes they are an absolute necessity,

1542
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: and sometimes it's out of everyone's hands to sort of

1543
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 2: have that breakup not be messy. Now I don't even

1544
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: know for sure that this breakup's going to happen, but

1545
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 2: my goodness, it feels like it is. And I can

1546
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: give you some background as we discuss it. But what

1547
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 2: is your take on everything that we've seen from Klay

1548
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: Thompson and the Warriors over the last not even just

1549
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 2: few weeks, but quite frankly all season. A reported two

1550
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: year contract offer for forty eight million dollars that was

1551
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:07,759
Speaker 2: turned down before the season started, seemingly back and forth

1552
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: angry relationship that led to four closed door meetings between

1553
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson and Steve Kerr a benching a bench role

1554
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 2: that was given to Clay for a period of time,

1555
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 2: and now we arrive almost to free agency and reportedly

1556
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 2: no offer is on the table. Clay has unfollowed the

1557
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: Warriors on Instagram, and also the Warriors have reportedly essentially

1558
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: said to Clay, yeah, we'd love to have you back,

1559
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: but we got like eight other things to figure out first,

1560
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 2: which only resonates to Clay as to say, you're not

1561
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,480
Speaker 2: even close to our first priority.

1562
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 3: You're probably not second or third either.

1563
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 5: Well, it is interesting.

1564
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of people probably just joining

1565
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 4: us here at the top of the hour, but we

1566
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 4: spent a lot of the last hour talking about the

1567
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 4: Lakers and what did we diagnosis the problem with the Lakers?

1568
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 4: As you said, when things went bad in the you know,

1569
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 4: twenty ten's what they do. They pulled up that nineteen

1570
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 4: eighty five you know, NBA Championship team photo and they

1571
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,839
Speaker 4: tried to you know, consult with somebody, or hire somebody,

1572
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 4: or bring back a guy that played twenty years ago.

1573
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 4: And like so, in a lot of ways, I actually

1574
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 4: do give the Warriors credit because they're kind of doing

1575
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 4: the opposite of what we've kind of discussed with the Lakers.

1576
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 4: Is the Lakers cling to their past, you know, just

1577
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 4: a lot. I don't know the right way to put it,

1578
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 4: but and the Warriors are kind of the exact opposite.

1579
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 4: But to your point and to where I think you

1580
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,919
Speaker 4: want to get, it just shows that it's unfortunate because

1581
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 4: there really is no way for the perfect breakup unless

1582
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 4: and there aren't very many examples of this that I

1583
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 4: can think of, unless the player just acknowledges I'm not

1584
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 4: the same, dude. I understand where you're coming from. But

1585
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 4: the problem with Klay Thompson is in free you know,

1586
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 4: there are spots that make sense for him that there

1587
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 4: may be a player away, a veteran away. And I'm

1588
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 4: just using these as hypotheticals, but you know, we know

1589
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 4: that Oklahoma City wants to get just a little bit older.

1590
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 4: Be ironic if you played Oklahoma City given the history there,

1591
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 4: but you know, like they traded for Alex Caruz, so

1592
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 4: they want to get a little bit older. You know,

1593
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 4: you hear some stuff with Orlando they want to bring

1594
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 4: in some veteran press. So like there is still a

1595
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 4: spot where he'll be valued. But in some ways it's

1596
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 4: one of those where I'm not sure that either side

1597
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 4: is wrong, and it's the Warriors basically acknowledging, you know,

1598
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 4: kind of again the opposite of the Lakers clinging to

1599
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 4: their past. The Warriors are like, we're not where we

1600
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 4: need to be, but to get to where we need

1601
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 4: to be, this window isn't closed.

1602
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 5: But to get to where we need to be.

1603
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 4: To keep this window open, you can't keep the same

1604
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 4: role that you've had.

1605
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:54,719
Speaker 5: It's tough.

1606
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 4: And again, I know we'll get into some of the

1607
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 4: nitty gritty of it, but it just shows it's really

1608
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 4: hard even for the great players, with the great organizations

1609
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 4: that are part of the great runs, for things to

1610
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 4: end in a perfect manner.

1611
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 2: Well, and it's also it's also about money. It's unfortunately

1612
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 2: it's a lot about money. Like I look at the

1613
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: Warriors situation and people will make it about Clay as

1614
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: if the Warriors are like, well, yeah, you're just not

1615
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 2: as good anymore. I think he's still plenty good. The

1616
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 2: problem is is they have found themselves with the most

1617
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: expensive roster in the sport for some time now. The

1618
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: new CBA gets real punitive, real fast. If you creep,

1619
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: if you keep just flying by the luxury tax and

1620
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 2: the second apron And you and I are not going

1621
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: to sit here and explain that to the audience right now,

1622
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 2: because I don't even know how good of a job

1623
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: we could do of it. It's complex and it's all

1624
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: not that not that exciting. Just know that at a

1625
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: certain point, if you keep doing that every year, you're

1626
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: gonna end up not only paying millions upon millions of

1627
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: dollars basically to air, but you're also going to start

1628
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 2: forfeiting draft picks and things like that. So the Warriors

1629
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 2: are like, we've got to reset the financial clock and

1630
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: we've got to get better. So it's sort of as

1631
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,799
Speaker 2: almost like clay. You can still put on a Warrior

1632
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 2: uniform and shoot threes for I don't know, like five

1633
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: million a year, but we've got to go figure out

1634
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: how to get better. And if we spend on you

1635
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: what your quote unquote worth on the open market, the

1636
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: only thing we ensure is that our roster is exactly

1637
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: the same again next year. And that's why I compare

1638
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: the Warriors to the Lakers, because I am wondering, how

1639
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: intensely do you want to keep Lebron James when all

1640
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: all of these names, Lebron and Ad and Clay and

1641
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 2: Steph and everything. All of it added up to two

1642
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: teams in the play in tournament. That's it. That's all

1643
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: that it added up to. And for the Warriors, they

1644
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 2: got blown out in their playing game and didn't even

1645
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 2: make the quote unquote playoffs. So it's like, you can

1646
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: sit here and get sentimental, but you're shooting yourself in

1647
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: the foot pretty hard if you let that lead.

1648
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 5: The way, no doubt.

1649
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 4: And again it is why I actually give them credit

1650
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 4: because these are tough conversations to have, and you know

1651
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 4: it's not new to the Warriors. I mean, listen, this

1652
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 4: happens in all sports all the time. I mean, I'm

1653
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 4: not trying to speak disparagingly of someone we lost this week,

1654
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 4: but like you know, the stories of Willie Mays with

1655
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 4: the Mets are famous, you know, and they're famous for

1656
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 4: a reason, and it's you know, you can go through

1657
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:48,879
Speaker 4: the history of sports.

1658
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 5: Patrick Ewing, where was he?

1659
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 4: The Sonics, the Orlando Magic, Hakeem Olajuan with the Raptors.

1660
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 4: That happens for like a half a second. I can't

1661
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 4: say I remember it. And by the way, it also,

1662
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 4: let me be clear to the point that you just made.

1663
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Clay would be the equivalent of

1664
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 4: that in this era. I still think there's something left

1665
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 4: in the tank, but it is the point you made

1666
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 4: is the important one, is that he still has something

1667
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 4: left in the tank. He still has value to a

1668
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 4: very good team. But this is a salary cap league,

1669
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 4: this is a Major League Baseball. You can't just sign

1670
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 4: everybody and keep everybody and overpay for everybody. And it sucks,

1671
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 4: but these are the tough decisions you have to make. Obviously,

1672
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 4: you have some emerging young guys that are either on

1673
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 4: cheap contracts or about to get paid, whatever the situation is,

1674
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 4: and you just can't pay everybody. And it's, by the way,

1675
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 4: we see this all the time, and it's always with

1676
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 4: someone as as accomplished as Klay Thompson. But we see

1677
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 4: this in the NFL all the time. You know, teams,

1678
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 4: teams have success, everybody wants to get paid. Everybody can't

1679
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 4: get paid. You got to make decisions on who stays

1680
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 4: and who goes. So I don't really know, you know

1681
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 4: what I really added beyond what you said, but this

1682
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 4: is something that has gone on for a while. And

1683
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 4: again it's just unfortunate because to your point, Clay still

1684
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 4: has a lot left in the tank, but because of

1685
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 4: some of the financial restrictions and because some of the

1686
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 4: other things that they have to take care of, just

1687
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 4: doesn't feel like he's much of a priority.

1688
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 2: When you're in a good relationship, you don't ever think

1689
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 2: that that relationship is going to go south, you know,

1690
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 2: And I like, i'd ask you you got anything going

1691
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 2: on in your life that's like not exactly how you

1692
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 2: envisioned it anything.

1693
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 5: Nothing terrible, but I know the point that you're getting to.

1694
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean, I think that it's just sort

1695
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 2: of it's something every person has to kind of go through,

1696
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: which is that at some point or another, you've got

1697
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: to get used to things being reality that you never

1698
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 2: thought would be reality. And so what the Warriors are

1699
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 2: are either letting go of or what Clay is deciding

1700
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 2: to go do elsewhere is like the loss of a

1701
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 2: vision that I think the organization had, he had, and

1702
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 2: I know the thing Base had, which is those three

1703
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 2: players being lifetime warriors hip.

1704
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 3: But what is that, you know, what is that worth?

1705
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: We could get into that, but the bigger thing is

1706
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 2: is that's just something that we.

1707
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 5: Made up in our heads, no doubt.

1708
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: We made it up in our heads and were like,

1709
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 2: that's the way it's gonna go. And then you arrived

1710
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 2: at a spot like they offered him a deal at

1711
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year that I bet Aaron if

1712
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: you got the Warriors in a quiet spot, they're pretty

1713
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 2: damn thankful today that he said no. Sure, because if

1714
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 2: he had said yes, that's twenty four million a year,

1715
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 2: it's on the books and they are completely handcuffed right now.

1716
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 2: And what they didn't know then is that that group

1717
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 2: given a largely healthy season. I know Draymond kept getting

1718
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: himself suspended, but largely a healthy season.

1719
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 3: That group wasn't even a playoff team.

1720
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you a quote. You cover this

1721
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 4: on a day to day basis up in the Bay Area.

1722
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:06,759
Speaker 4: I mean, wasn't this reportedly, if not outwardly. The reason

1723
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 4: that Bob Myers kind of stepped aside. He said, you know,

1724
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 4: I've done a lot of great things. I can leave

1725
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,639
Speaker 4: with my legacy intact without having to be the bad

1726
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 4: guy because I know tough decisions are coming.

1727
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was all about legacy.

1728
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 2: I just think that after a certain point when you've

1729
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:29,799
Speaker 2: won four championships, and these people are completely different people

1730
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: than who they were twelve years ago. They're icons now,

1731
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 2: you know, their future Hall of Famers, teammates punching one

1732
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 2: another like it's exhausting. It's exhausting to have that much attention,

1733
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 2: that many egos balance all of it.

1734
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 3: I just think that that's my perception.

1735
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 2: And Bob would come on our station quite a bit,

1736
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 2: and sure, he's only going to share so much.

1737
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 3: He's going to package it in a nice light.

1738
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 2: But a guy who's not even fifty years old yet,

1739
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: I think, was just like, I need a break.

1740
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 3: Sure, this is just this is just a lot.

1741
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's fair, and but it does speak to

1742
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 4: what you said, is that it's not twenty sixty to

1743
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 4: fifteen anymore, twenty fifth, sixteen, twenty eighteen.

1744
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 5: It's not even twenty twenty two.

1745
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 4: And like you know, Clay, listen, it's staking, by the way,

1746
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 4: to your point, everybody deals with adversity. Nobody's the same

1747
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 4: as they were seven or eight years ago. And physically

1748
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 4: he's been through a lot and he's not the same. Yeah,

1749
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 4: and he's not the same player, not the same defender.

1750
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not saying that you can just find

1751
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 4: shooting anywhere. But what made him so unique was that

1752
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 4: two way ability. Six foot seven, six foot eight, whatever

1753
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 4: he is, six foot six, you know, I don't know,

1754
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 4: it's just it's just you know, what do they say

1755
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 4: like to you know, time stops for no man, And

1756
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 4: it's just one of those tough situations where, like I said,

1757
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 4: to kind of lead the segment is I feel bad

1758
01:32:58,880 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 4: because I see both.

1759
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 5: He knows that he has something left in the tank.

1760
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 4: But the organization has to do what's best for the

1761
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 4: By the way, again, I give them credit for what's

1762
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 4: actually doing what's best for the organization rather than what

1763
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 4: feels like is probably the right thing to do. Good

1764
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 4: by a guy that's won you a lot of games

1765
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 4: many many years ago.

1766
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 2: Watch us have that conversation, and next week they'll re

1767
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 2: sign him to twenty million a year for three years

1768
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: and do absolutely nothing different. That's it wouldn't shock me.

1769
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 2: It kind of shocked me. But anyway, Aaron Torres is

1770
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 2: in for Ephraim Mark Wellerd Aaron Torres, and surprisingly we

1771
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: both have a very similar view on what is ailing

1772
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 2: the WNBA through this process of growth, and it's got

1773
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 2: nothing to do really with Caitlin Clark or Angel Reese

1774
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,879
Speaker 2: or or trying to beat up Caitlin on the floor,

1775
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 2: and physic has had nothing to do with any of that.

1776
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 2: In fact, it has nothing to do with it what

1777
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 2: happens in the games at all. We'll get to that

1778
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 2: coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, we'll live

1779
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 2: TYRNK dot com studios. This is completely off the map.

1780
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 2: But you know who Scott Hansen is Red Zone Channel.

1781
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's excellent.

1782
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's excellent. I love Scott. I love the Red

1783
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 2: Zone Channel. And he's been doing this every single Sunday

1784
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 2: before our show, and it catches my eye every single time.

1785
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: He tweeted it out a few hours ago, eleven Sundays away, Wow,

1786
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 2: my friends, eleven Sundays to go. Eleven more of these shows,

1787
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 2: and I guess now, actually we're closer to ten, ten

1788
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 2: more of these shows, and then we're playing football.

1789
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 4: It's it's wild because all year long, like I do

1790
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,719
Speaker 4: look forward to, you know, June July, a little bit slower,

1791
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 4: get away with the family, do that whole thing. But

1792
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,600
Speaker 4: then you get here and you're like, I kind of

1793
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 4: miss football, and it's the double edged sort of I

1794
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 4: think we all know what like. It's the double edged

1795
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 4: sort of we all know once we get into it,

1796
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:22,799
Speaker 4: exactly what it entails. And basically we have no social lives.

1797
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, you just get into that

1798
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 4: routine of you know, Thursday night into you know, I

1799
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 4: watch obviously a lot of college football because of my show,

1800
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 4: and to Sunday and to Monday, and then you do

1801
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 4: it all over again.

1802
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 5: But you know what you're getting into.

1803
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 4: But then you're also like eh, but then it's there

1804
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 4: and you love it and you're busy and you feel

1805
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 4: fulfilled every time. I don't know, it's just it's an

1806
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 4: interesting paradox. I guess that we live as sports broadcasters here.

1807
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely no question about it.

1808
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 3: So I dig that. Enjoy whatever the hell you're doing

1809
01:35:59,600 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 3: right then.

1810
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 2: So you don't need to figure that out or apologize

1811
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 2: for that, Aaron.

1812
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 3: Just just enjoy whatever the hell you're doing right now.

1813
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 5: I'm hanging with you. What's better than that? Forget football?

1814
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 4: I got Willard, got Willard and Angel rece What more

1815
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 4: can I ask for?

1816
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 2: Eh, Willard, Angel Reese or the National Football League?

1817
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, let's get into it.

1818
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: And glad you're with us, and by the way, quick reminder,

1819
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: shortly after the show, the podcast goes up, So if

1820
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 2: you missed any of today's show with Aaron Torres here,

1821
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 2: be sure to check out the podcast. All you have

1822
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 2: to do is search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

1823
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 2: those podcasts, and be sure to also follow rate review

1824
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 2: the pod. And again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1825
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. You'll see this show posted right

1826
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 2: after we get off the air. Plenty of time left, though,

1827
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 2: And you said something before the show we were texting

1828
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 2: and chatting, and it felt similar to me to something

1829
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 2: I kind of went off about last week when Angel

1830
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 2: Reese clocked Caitlin Clark in the head during a game

1831
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 2: and was it a basketball play. Sure, I wasn't offended

1832
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 2: by the play, but I was much more knocked off

1833
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 2: course by the fact that she then spent her postgame

1834
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:21,719
Speaker 2: press conference talking about how Caitlyn gets a special whistle,

1835
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 2: and I thought to myself, Gosh.

1836
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 3: You know what's going on here.

1837
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 2: This isn't about Caitlyn getting bullied because it's a very

1838
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 2: physical league. This isn't so much about race, sexism. All

1839
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 2: of the things that have come up in the conversation

1840
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 2: about the WNBA.

1841
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 3: I think this has more to do.

1842
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 2: With the fact that the WNBA is so not used

1843
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 2: to this level of attention that you get really odd

1844
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 2: things happening in press conferences and on social media, and

1845
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 2: we as consumers are like, whoa, what the hell was

1846
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: that all about? Like, that's not how you do it,

1847
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 2: And so maybe there's something actually good to that. I'm

1848
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 2: not trying for everybody to be cookie cutter, but I

1849
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 2: do wonder if the WNBA establishment understands that's a big

1850
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 2: piece to the puzzle. For instance, when you forearms shiver

1851
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 2: the girl in her back, and then after the game

1852
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 2: when someone's like, hey, what was going on with Caitlin

1853
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 2: and your answer is no, Caitlin Clark questions, please hold

1854
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 2: on a second. Now, you just made it eight times

1855
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 2: bigger than it was. So this is what the WNBA.

1856
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,759
Speaker 2: And I really don't want this to sound snooty. Please

1857
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 2: sound the alarm if it does. Y'all don't need to

1858
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 2: have this social national experiment that you're all having.

1859
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 3: You just need media training.

1860
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that's it.

1861
01:38:58,760 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 5: That's it.

1862
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 2: This whole thing saying would be so much less if

1863
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 2: everybody would just kind of learn how to play the

1864
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 2: game when the microphones and cameras, come on.

1865
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 4: You know, it's the old it's the oldest saying. I

1866
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 4: actually think it's a Bible verse. I'm not religious, but

1867
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 4: to whom much is given, much is expected. And it's

1868
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 4: like not a lot has been given up until this point,

1869
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 4: but not a lot has been expected. And so it

1870
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 4: is interesting because it feels like, you know, there's been

1871
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 4: this sport has existed obviously, we know for twenty eight

1872
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 4: years whatever it's been, and it feels like there's been

1873
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 4: a very niche audience that's like really into it. Now

1874
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 4: it's tiny, it's MIDI school. That's not I'm not trying

1875
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:39,799
Speaker 4: to be offensive either, sound the alarms. It's just the truth.

1876
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 5: But I also think.

1877
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 4: The media that covers it has all been super invested

1878
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 4: in it and its success and whatever. And so I

1879
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 4: bring it up because now that you are getting the

1880
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 4: national exposure, now that you are getting you know, even

1881
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 4: Fox Sports, like literally, like, I'll be honest, I did

1882
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 4: plan part of my day.

1883
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 2: Now.

1884
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 4: Part of it is I knew I was working with you,

1885
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 4: but even if I wasn't, I did, for the first

1886
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 4: time in my life, planned part of my day to say, hey,

1887
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 4: let's make sure you're at least sort of in front

1888
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 4: of the TV if anything happens in this this fever

1889
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 4: Sky game. Now nothing did. And I think that's an

1890
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 4: interesting conversation in and of itself of are all these

1891
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 4: shows gonna try to manufacture something tomorrow or are they

1892
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 4: gonna talk basketball or are they not gonna talk about

1893
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 4: it at all? But that has been the biggest eye

1894
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 4: opener to me, Willard is I just don't think anyone

1895
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 4: was ready for this wave of interest that has. Clearly

1896
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 4: they've said they're ready, they've said we want you and whatever.

1897
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 4: But it's not just the players, by the way, the

1898
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 4: coaches don't know what they're doing. By the way, can

1899
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 4: I ask a question, I'm not trying to be sarcastic.

1900
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,759
Speaker 4: I haven't heard has the commit at any point said

1901
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 4: anything the commissioner, who has been irrelevant. Has this thing

1902
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 4: descend upon the heavens and make the sport matter? And

1903
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 4: it's like every day this poor girl, Kaitlyn Clark, and

1904
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 4: I do feel bad for her she finds herself in

1905
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 4: the middle of a controversy. Can the commissioner speak out

1906
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 4: and say one thing about whatever?

1907
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 5: What eve you know?

1908
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,799
Speaker 4: Even Becky Hammond is at like it's just it speaks

1909
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 4: to they've never had this spotlight. And I don't think

1910
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 4: I think everybody's kind of freezing except for Kaitlyn Clark.

1911
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 4: Kaitlyn Clark's just playing basketball and some days she's good

1912
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 4: and some day she's not. But everybody else is like

1913
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 4: overwhelmed by the moment and it's been kind of surreal

1914
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:47,759
Speaker 4: to see for guys like you and I who cover

1915
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,879
Speaker 4: the NFL, the NBA, major college football, major League baseball,

1916
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 4: where this is just kind of par for the course.

1917
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I and I think that's why when it

1918
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 2: just looks like everybody's offended all the time, yep, if

1919
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 2: I had to say it in one sentence, that's what

1920
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:09,480
Speaker 2: it is. And you don't want that. That's not enticing

1921
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 2: to fans. You don't want to just look offended all

1922
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,799
Speaker 2: the time. And the reason they look offended is because

1923
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 2: people are starting to ask probing questions and are they

1924
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: perfect questions? No, there's a lot of people that aren't

1925
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 2: used to covering the WNBA or watching it that are

1926
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 2: new to the party. You can get mad at them

1927
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 2: for having not been at the party for the last

1928
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 2: twenty years, or you can say welcome to the party.

1929
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Speaker 2: You could do this.

1930
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Speaker 3: One of two ways.

1931
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Speaker 2: So are there going to be stupid questions?

1932
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Speaker 3: Yes? Are there going to be stupid comments from fans?

1933
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Speaker 2: Yes, if you take a holier than now, I'm mad

1934
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 2: that you said that tone. Well, now you're out casting

1935
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 2: these people as opposed to handling it the way. For example,

1936
01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 2: I watched the NHL do this for years. Guys in

1937
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 2: hockey locker rooms for years, we're always known as the

1938
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,839
Speaker 2: nicest dudes and whether you like hockey, and we almost

1939
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 2: never talk hockey, and I'm not even the biggest hockey fan,

1940
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 2: but when I covered hockey, I very much got the

1941
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 2: feeling that the players were aware of. Look, that question

1942
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 2: might be stupid, but we want you here. We want

1943
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,640
Speaker 2: you here. So I'm not going to now crush you

1944
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 2: on the top of the head because you just asked

1945
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 2: a stupid question. I'm gonna explain it to you like

1946
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 2: your four yes, and then I'm gonna shake your hand

1947
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 2: and say see you tomorrow. We got another game. And

1948
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,719
Speaker 2: so that'd be my only suggestion to the w NBA.

1949
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 2: Stop getting mad at everybody for what we all admit

1950
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 2: may sound stupid to you. Sorry, most of us just

1951
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 2: got here.

1952
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:55,799
Speaker 4: We did, and and sorry, I'm just blown away, Peah.

1953
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 4: I just think the thing that I have noticed, it

1954
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,600
Speaker 4: doesn't feel like anybody was ready for this moment, and

1955
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 4: I think pretty much everybody operated essentially in obscurity, and

1956
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 4: so when nobody's paying attention, you can kind of do whatever.

1957
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 4: The commissioner can kind of never be a public front

1958
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 4: facing figure. You can't be that if you're Roger Goodell

1959
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 4: or Adam Silver or Rob Manfred or even Gary Bettman.

1960
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 4: You know these, some of these coaches, I think if

1961
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 4: embarrassed themselves. You know, the Minnesota Lynks coach, who's the

1962
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 4: Olympic coach, who who was liking tweets that were basically

1963
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 4: negative about Caitlin Clark.

1964
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Speaker 5: It's just it's such a weird deal.

1965
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 4: And I'll be curious by the way, again, I know

1966
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 4: I mentioned in a minute ago, but the sky Fever

1967
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 4: game was pretty entertaining. Today there was Angel Reese was

1968
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 4: awesome and she didn't say anything controversial, she didn't do

1969
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 4: anything controversial as best as I saw, none of her

1970
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 4: teammates than anything controversial. So I am curious, like, is

1971
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 4: there a conversation tomorrow and does it actually revolve around

1972
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 4: basketball because that's gonna see that's that's where there will

1973
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 4: actually be growth in the sport. Because it has felt

1974
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 4: like the last couple of weeks the discourse has just

1975
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 4: gone completely off the rails so many times. But it

1976
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 4: is interesting to think about. It's just like, I don't

1977
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 4: think anybody was really ready for this moment. I don't

1978
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 4: think anybody realized how just how big this was going

1979
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 4: to be. And here we are talking WNBA.

1980
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 3: You know, I fully agree.

1981
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,719
Speaker 2: You know who's ready for the moment though, is Steve

1982
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 2: de Seger, always, always and forever ready for the moment?

1983
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 5: Steve, Hello, there here it is.

1984
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 7: I love your hockey analogy, by the way, because as

1985
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,759
Speaker 7: one who covered the NHL in the nineties when hockey

1986
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 7: was new into the West in cities like Anaheim and

1987
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 7: San Jose, the great one Wayne Gretzky was always very

1988
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 7: conscious of growing the game. It didn't matter what went

1989
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 7: on in the ice that may be bad for him.

1990
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 7: He always, as you said, had the proper response and

1991
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 7: gave people time. The best example is one Gretzky game

1992
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 7: I covered in LA. They lost, couldn't score at the

1993
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 7: end despite a six on four advantage. Final Horn sounds.

1994
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 7: Gretzky takes his stick and pounds it over the top

1995
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,679
Speaker 7: of the goal until it busts in half, and takes

1996
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 7: the remaining half a hockey stick in his hand and

1997
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 7: hurls it up against the backboards and skates off the

1998
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,839
Speaker 7: ice to the locker room. Fifteen minutes later, he's standing

1999
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 7: in front of his locker and answering literally any question

2000
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 7: that we had for as long as we needed to

2001
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 7: speak to him.

2002
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 2: There you go.

2003
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 7: The great one was the greatest.

2004
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 2: You have to be ready for us to be like,

2005
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 2: so is the ice cold? And then like just be

2006
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 2: like it is it is. I'm glad you asked that.

2007
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 2: That's the worst question in the history of ever. But

2008
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you asked that, And thank you for

2009
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 2: being here my locker. We'll see again tomorrow.

2010
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 7: And no WNBA games tomorrow. By the way, After four today,

2011
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 7: including the Chicago win over Indiana eighty eight eighty seven,

2012
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 7: Angel reached twenty five points sixteen rebounds. Caitlin clarke In

2013
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 7: defeats seventeen points thirteen assists. We'd mentioned it on a

2014
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 7: Weekend and show before the scheduling this year for the WNBA,

2015
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 7: they're gonna have the sendoff game for Team USA before

2016
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 7: it leaves for Paris as the All Star Game on

2017
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 7: July the twentieth in Phoenix, WNBA All Stars against Team

2018
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 7: USA Women, and then it's a month break for the

2019
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:23,520
Speaker 7: WNBA season. It'll resume in mid August and go till September.

2020
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 7: Just saying MLB, the New York Mets got to win

2021
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 7: over the Cubs in Chicago, five to two, that's not

2022
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 7: the story. The Mets last year had a couple of

2023
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 7: pitchers kicked out because they failed what's called a substance check.

2024
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 7: You've seen the umpires literally grab the hands of a

2025
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 7: pitcher to see if they're clean, or look at his glove,

2026
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 7: something like that. Well, closer Edwin Diaz of the Mets

2027
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 7: was thrown out tonight to start the bottom of the

2028
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 7: ninth before he faced a hit her due to a

2029
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 7: foreign substance on his hand, and the cable camera close

2030
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 7: up of the hand showed that it was let's say, discolored.

2031
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 7: Something was up.

2032
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 5: It looked weird.

2033
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, this is Edwin Diaz, who was the closer

2034
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 7: in the National League just two short years ago. Had

2035
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 7: an EER for the full season at one point three

2036
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 7: to one. He was a phenomenon. He had about sixty

2037
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 7: innings pitched in almost one hundred and twenty strikeouts that year.

2038
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 2: Oh and the intro and the intro trump You don't

2039
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 2: leave out the intro. That was the best thing I've

2040
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 2: seen in baseball.

2041
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 7: Now he had come in. You know, Yankee fans had

2042
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 7: their Mario on our Vera entrance for years. Mets finally

2043
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 7: had theirs when Diaz would come into the game and

2044
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 7: the Tommy trumpet playing. And by the way, with Mets

2045
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:35,719
Speaker 7: fan Jason Smith on tomorrow night, you might be hearing

2046
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 7: that tune in Derision throughout the show tomorrow, that's my guess.

2047
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 7: But Edwin Diaz didn't play at all last year due

2048
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 7: to injury and has not been good this year. Eer

2049
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:48,799
Speaker 7: four point seven zero, So is he kind of trying something?

2050
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 7: The umpires would say, Yes, he was kicked out for

2051
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 7: a reason and therefore facing a ten game suspension. Tonight,

2052
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 7: Texas beak Kansas City for nothing. Max Scherzer, who once

2053
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 7: got an trouble for the same thing, hasn't met, made

2054
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 7: a season debut with Texas through five innings and got

2055
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 7: the four nothing win against the Royals. Today, Shrzer retired

2056
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,839
Speaker 7: the first thirteen batters. At the College World Series, Tennessee

2057
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 7: stayed alive, beating Texas A and M four to one

2058
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 7: to force a Game three of the best of three finals. Tomorrow.

2059
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 7: US men's soccer defeated Bolivia two nothing in its Copa

2060
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 7: America opener. Christian Polisics scored in the third minute. The

2061
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 7: US will play Panama on Thursday in Atlanta. Panama is

2062
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,759
Speaker 7: losing late one nothing to Uruguay in Miami on Fox

2063
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 7: TV right now. At the Euro Soccer Tournament Germany, the

2064
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 7: host tied Switzerland won to one with a late goal.

2065
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 7: Christopher Bell took the NASCAR Race, and Scottie Scheffler won

2066
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 7: the Travelers in a playoff in Connecticut, his sixth victory

2067
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 7: this season. Scheffler in the so called signature events, the

2068
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 7: big money limited field events that the PGA Tour has now,

2069
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 7: He's played in seven of the eighth they've had. In

2070
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 7: those seven events, he's earned about seventeen million dollars just

2071
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 7: in those seven turn he's won four of them. If

2072
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 7: you include everything this year, including the Masters, it's over

2073
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 7: twenty seven and a half million just in the on

2074
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 7: course earnings for Scottie Scheffler back to.

2075
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:13,679
Speaker 3: You great stuff.

2076
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 2: See appreciate it so much, along with Aaron Torres in

2077
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 2: for e from Mark Willard TYRAQ dot Com Studios, Fox

2078
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. I'm just looking at this based on what

2079
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 2: we've talked about a lot tonight, and I'm thinking not

2080
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 2: just Klay Thompson. I'm also looking at Brandon Ingram and

2081
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 2: Paul George and Kevin.

2082
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 3: Durant and boy who knows where this goes?

2083
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 2: Does it go to Joel mb Does it go to Giannis,

2084
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, Donovan Mitchell, Damar DeRozan. We could keep going

2085
01:50:53,400 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 2: and going, Like, I'm really wondering what we're about to

2086
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 2: encounter in terms of how this deck gets shuffled in

2087
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:08,879
Speaker 2: the NBA and if it does help sort of create

2088
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 2: a different kind of excitement level for this season. It's

2089
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 2: it's been a minute now that that July is one

2090
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 2: of the most interesting months in the NBA season, even

2091
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 2: though there are no games.

2092
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 4: No doubt, I mean what we're talking about this time.

2093
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 4: I mean it felt like it felt like we as

2094
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 4: a collective industry like probably dragged that Dame Lillard, you know,

2095
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 4: trade demand. I mean, we we made like a solid

2096
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 4: five weeks worth of content out of that. I mean,

2097
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 4: granted they took a while to trade them, but I

2098
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 4: just remember it was like every day there were no updates,

2099
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 4: and it was like, oh, well, the heat haven't cold,

2100
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 4: what does it mean, let's lead the show with it

2101
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 4: for four straight days. You know, It's like so some years,

2102
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 4: some years it's certainly more interesting than others. But there's

2103
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:57,600
Speaker 4: no doubt that July now and a lot of the

2104
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 4: same way that you know, March's kind of NFL Free

2105
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 4: agents se time, it feels like July has become NBA

2106
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 4: hot stove season. And unfortunately I'm not the first or

2107
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 4: one hundredth person to say this. In many ways, it

2108
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,560
Speaker 4: feels like that part becomes more interesting than oftentimes the

2109
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 4: games themselves.

2110
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. By the way, with only eleven

2111
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 2: and now ten Sundays left before we're talking red zone

2112
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 2: before we get out of here. Coming up next, they

2113
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 2: say they're the flagship franchise for the entire NFL. Then

2114
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 2: why has it been so damn quiet this offseason?

2115
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 3: Let's get into that. Coming up next on Fox.

2116
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Okay Tyre rag dot Com Studios, Aaron tours

2117
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 2: in for Ephraim, this has been fun tonight, man, and

2118
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 2: I had no doubt that it would be.

2119
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,639
Speaker 4: I was just telling Mary and Pat show flew on by,

2120
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 4: and by the way, in June when there's not as

2121
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 4: much to talk about, you know, you know we're having

2122
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 4: a good sign when the show flies on by. So

2123
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 4: I appreciate you having me. I had a blast as well.

2124
01:52:57,960 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 4: You know, listen, I know you love working with you.

2125
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 4: But you know, if he you know, if he ever

2126
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 4: needs another Sunday off and you want to make call

2127
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 4: the bullpen, your boy Toras pretty much will be ready

2128
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 4: for the most part.

2129
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 3: So this this won't be our last show. I have

2130
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 3: no doubt about that.

2131
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 2: Just as a conduit to a larger conversation, I want

2132
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 2: to ask you if you know right now who is

2133
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 2: listed as the starting running back for the Dallas Cowboys.

2134
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 2: You know what it is.

2135
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 5: It's not Zeke Elliott?

2136
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 1: Is it?

2137
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 5: Did he?

2138
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 3: He's? It is is Ezekiel Elliott.

2139
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, what do I get?

2140
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 2: Maybe you you get a free trip into a conversation

2141
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 2: about why the Cowboys offseason has looked and sounded like this.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm scratching my head at uh at such a level. Now,

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Speaker 2: Doc Prescott is is due for an extension. Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 2: is due for an extent. You brought Ezekiel Elliott back

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Speaker 2: to be your starting running back. While productive, he does

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Speaker 2: not have the look of a star anymore.

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Speaker 5: He's a Clay Timson a football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys have largely looked at their offseason and

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Speaker 2: seemingly not been aware that they're allowed to upgrade the roster.

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Speaker 2: And that's coming off of a year where they, along

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Speaker 2: with the Miami Dolphins, I would argue, were the biggest

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Speaker 2: paper tigers in the NFL. Good team, good team, can't

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Speaker 2: beat other good teams, but a good enough team to

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Speaker 2: beat all the teams you're supposed to beat, So good job.

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Speaker 2: I thought that this owner was always about being the flagship,

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Speaker 2: was always about getting people talking. They have had the

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Speaker 2: biggest head scratcher of an offseason of any NFL team

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Speaker 2: in the entire league.

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Speaker 4: So it's interesting because we had this not argument, this

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Speaker 4: converse on My Saturday show last night. Is I actually

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Speaker 4: think there's a lot of parallels with the Lakers. The

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Speaker 4: conversation we had with the Lakers where we think because

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Speaker 4: of that star or because of the purple and gold

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Speaker 4: that the organization operates a certain way that we just

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Speaker 4: have no factual proof that it does right. Like, I mean,

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Speaker 4: just go back to the Cowboys' playoff last year. They're

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Speaker 4: at home. Great regular season, as you said, probably payper tiger,

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Speaker 4: but whatever, get get there at home and get destroyed

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Speaker 4: by the Green Bay Packers. Youngest team in the end,

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Speaker 4: I think they were the youngest team to make the

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Speaker 4: playoffs in this many years. And I only bring it

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Speaker 4: up because what was the conversation. It was like, well,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's no way Jerry is gonna put up

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Speaker 4: with this, and Bill Belichick's available, and Pete Carroll's available,

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Speaker 4: and like that, they're kind of I mean is Belichick

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Speaker 4: And it's like have you been paying attention? Like that's

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Speaker 4: not who Jerry Jones has been for a long time now.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't fully explain what's going on this off season.

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Speaker 4: But I just don't think they are the team that

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Speaker 4: you think that they are. They've actually weirdly drafted well

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Speaker 4: historically for the most part, they've kind of overpaid guys

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Speaker 4: a lot, like the Lakers, probably more than they should.

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Speaker 4: That has not obviously been the case this offseason. I

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Speaker 4: know they're renegotiating a bunch of things. Are they going

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Speaker 4: to give Dak the extension?

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Speaker 5: Are they not?

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Speaker 4: I just don't think they're the organization that people think

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Speaker 4: that they are, If that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I think it's a very very fair point

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Speaker 2: right now. And does that mean resting on Laurels? Could

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Speaker 2: it be kind of looked out another way? I guess so.

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Speaker 2: But the whole thing is a head scratcher to me.

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Speaker 2: If you're not going to actively go out there and

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Speaker 2: make the team better, I think the excuses are there.

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Speaker 2: You could say, look financially, you know, Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 2: okay so so Dak Prescott and cdee Lamb. Like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know why it sounds like this. I live in

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Speaker 2: the Bay Area. There's not one day right now this

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Speaker 2: offseason where people aren't talking about Brandon Ayuk same draft

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Speaker 2: as Ceedee Lamb. People are talking about this every day.

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Speaker 2: Ayuk is putting stuff on Instagram. He's furious this negotiation.

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Speaker 2: That is this the final year? Are they gonna have

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Speaker 2: to drop debo after the year. Brock Perty's contract is

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Speaker 2: gonna be these extension eligible next March.

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Speaker 3: That's a big deal. There's all this going on.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys have their quarterback and their receiver, the two

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Speaker 2: biggest names on their offense are sitting right here having

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Speaker 2: no clue what their future is, and the Cowboys just

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Speaker 2: have their feet up on an automan as if the

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Speaker 2: season doesn't start in ten Sundays.

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Speaker 7: But it does.

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Speaker 5: It's really strange.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I can think of I've heard people

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Speaker 4: kind of make this argument is listen, you got you

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Speaker 4: gotta lock up CD long term, right, But a lot

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Speaker 4: of people have said, listen, Dak, you've kind of I mean,

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Speaker 4: the situations he's been put into, I mean, comes in

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Speaker 4: as a young quarterback. The old line is probably the

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Speaker 4: best in the league. You get a young zeke a

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Speaker 4: year or two later, whatever it is. And I've heard

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Speaker 4: the argument. I don't know if I really believe it

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Speaker 4: that it's kind of like, Okay, you want that extension,

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Speaker 4: go ahead and improve it this year. Prove that you belong,

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Speaker 4: that you deserve it, because we're not going to give

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Speaker 4: you every little piece to work with. Again, I don't

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Speaker 4: know that I ultimately believe that, but that's some stuff

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Speaker 4: that I've heard, just from the perspective of, like, you know,

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Speaker 4: you want that whatever, whatever the new number is. I know,

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence just got two seventy five or whatever it was.

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Speaker 4: You want that forty five, fifty, fifty two, whatever the

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Speaker 4: number becomes, go ahead and improve that.

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Speaker 5: You deserve it. That's the only real thing I can

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Speaker 5: think of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the teams do have more leverage than we

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Speaker 2: give them credit for, at least when you're talking about receivers.

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Speaker 3: The market has gone crazy.

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Speaker 2: But these guys they're gonna have to play on their

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Speaker 2: fifty year option. It doesn't help them to sit the

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Speaker 2: year out or anything like that. Quarterbacks that's a little different.

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Speaker 2: You don't have the leverage. Like if you have one,

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Speaker 2: you pay the going rate, whether it feels right or not.

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Speaker 2: Like I laugh when people are like, whis your pay

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Speaker 2: prock perty fifty? You have no choice.

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Speaker 5: Of course you're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna pay him fifty.

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff got over fifty.

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree at all. Yet it's bizarre situation in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely all right, my man. Fantastic to have you,

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Speaker 3: and I know that we're gonna do it again.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me, man. I appreciate you absolutely.

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Speaker 2: For Aaron Torres, I'm Mark Willard Plank and span, you

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Speaker 2: are coming up next, Keep it locked right here.