Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Fucker well, well, well, welcome
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast, presented
Speaker 1: by Intuit Quick Books, the official sponsor of the NFL.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis. I'm coming to you from
Speaker 1: a city filled with heroes in Bunker's Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rose adult What is up? Boys? Hey Dan?
Speaker 1: Happy Monday everybody? Oh yeah, what is the difference between
Speaker 1: Monday and Saturday or Thursday or any other day? At
Speaker 1: this point, the m O is consistent from day to day.
Speaker 1: We didn't do a podcast on Saturday and Sunday, but
Speaker 1: we're doing them every day this week into it, quick
Speaker 1: Books didn't know what they were getting themselves in for.
Speaker 1: What a bargain we're turning into. Speaking of which, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's time to go back to the table,
Speaker 1: and I know they're gonna say, well, this is not
Speaker 1: the time to negotiate. This is the time to negotiate.
Speaker 1: You paid for in fact, Ricky Hollywood, how are you doing,
Speaker 1: by the way, doing well? How are you guys? Well?
Speaker 1: Do you think that this is something to take up
Speaker 1: with the Shadowy League figures? Do we need to be
Speaker 1: given the into it pop five times a week, as
Speaker 1: we're planning to do again this week. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a fair question to ask. Yeah crazy, Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: I will get on that right away. Al Right, great,
Speaker 1: that's important. Um. Yes, we are back with you for
Speaker 1: another week. Is the second wave of free agency is
Speaker 1: in full swing, and we're gonna get you caught up
Speaker 1: on all the latest news that has occurred since we
Speaker 1: last We're with you, which was Friday. As we've already noted,
Speaker 1: we're planning to come to you again every day this week,
Speaker 1: and uh, maybe the pod will be a little shorter
Speaker 1: than you're used to, but now that we're going every day,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna kind of tinker with some things and
Speaker 1: you know, explore the space a little bit. And what's
Speaker 1: a uh in a time where time and space is
Speaker 1: very confusing, we might as well play around a little bit, right, boys, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: why not play with it, play with the space. I
Speaker 1: love having Um. I thank the listeners for all the feedback,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's a you know, it's been great to
Speaker 1: have some function in the world, Like it's good to
Speaker 1: have something to do. Ultimately, Uh, this is only an
Speaker 1: hour a day, like the listeners are saying, It brings
Speaker 1: a little normalcy to their lives. It brings a little
Speaker 1: normalcy to tow mine. Oh yeah, you don't need time
Speaker 1: on your hands and yourself on your mind. That's the
Speaker 1: last thing you need. This has been healthy for all
Speaker 1: of us. I like getting a chance to peer into
Speaker 1: for instance, Gregg's UM, I believe maybe that's a living
Speaker 1: room space. I just saw a female, a woman walk
Speaker 1: walk by in the background, So I wouldn't see that
Speaker 1: if we were all sitting in a studio. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you know who it was. I don't know
Speaker 1: at all, either Ecca or l s my my wife
Speaker 1: or daughter. Those are the only two women in my house.
Speaker 1: I don't know that your house goes from three men
Speaker 1: in a baby. Wow. That reference again for the second
Speaker 1: time in a month. You didn't see that coming, did you. Um.
Speaker 1: Also coming up today, in addition to the news, we're
Speaker 1: also gonna check in Greg. You wrote a banger. Is
Speaker 1: it live on the site yet it is? Tell us
Speaker 1: about it. I think it's like a you know what's
Speaker 1: just below banger, like a solid banger. It's like, um,
Speaker 1: one of my officers, it's an opposite field, single and softball.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna score run. I'm getting on base. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: no one needs to call it here best and worst
Speaker 1: contracts of free agency? Who got some what from the
Speaker 1: team perspective? Who got some good values? Who maybe made
Speaker 1: some bad deals? I read it. Let me translate this
Speaker 1: for you. The article is these are the guys I like,
Speaker 1: and these are the guys I don't like. No, I
Speaker 1: mean that's answered. The same guys you hate got bad
Speaker 1: contracts and the guys you love got good contract That's
Speaker 1: not true. You would always say, Um, for instance, I
Speaker 1: haven't been on kissing cousins corner. I let it with
Speaker 1: a good contract there. How about that excellent way to
Speaker 1: sell it west by the way, Thank you. That's that
Speaker 1: should keep the listeners plugged into the end of the show.
Speaker 1: All right, boys, I'm happy to hear that everyone's healthy. Erica,
Speaker 1: you look healthier than ever. I feel like you've been
Speaker 1: doing something. Are you exfoliating? What's happening with you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know? Um, not showering every day has actually been
Speaker 1: pretty nice. So when I do get all, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was gonna just say something like
Speaker 1: hussied up, But I don't know if that's like if
Speaker 1: that's allowed, so we'll have to look into that. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, going on runs, getting out of the
Speaker 1: house a little bit, feeling good, and how are the
Speaker 1: quarantine beards coming along? Gentlemen, Marx looks really nice. I
Speaker 1: gotta say, I'll show you a little bit. It's a
Speaker 1: little look. It's in that sort of, um admittedly creepy
Speaker 1: stage where I just you know, the people in my
Speaker 1: own home were wondering where this is going. I can't
Speaker 1: get a haircut for two months either. That's another deep
Speaker 1: concern of mine. Greg's is looking decent. You know, you've
Speaker 1: got your patches like normal, problematic exactly. It's more I'm
Speaker 1: I'm on Mark's corner too, that the lack of a
Speaker 1: haircut is going to become a problem sooner than later.
Speaker 1: Dan looks hot. Really you think it's okay? It's yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. And West looks like
Speaker 1: he's about to deliver his baby himself. It's the hermit
Speaker 1: starter kit, you know what, West, I thought you were
Speaker 1: joking about that, and then I had a nice conversation
Speaker 1: with your wife on the phone. It was no hanky panky.
Speaker 1: Just for the record, West, Um, and uh, she said
Speaker 1: she had legitimately had you going on YouTube to do
Speaker 1: some type of cursory research into delivering a baby out
Speaker 1: of a you know thing. Well, this is Wayne heavily
Speaker 1: on her mind. This was the story of our weekend.
Speaker 1: She's been seeing tweets where a hospital in New York
Speaker 1: the husband was not allowed in because, uh, there's no
Speaker 1: room at the end, basically because of a coronavirus. So
Speaker 1: she's been researching. She's a little worried that there's not
Speaker 1: gonna be enough room even for the people giving birth,
Speaker 1: so she's been looking up alternative places to have a baby. Um,
Speaker 1: we may have what is it called a doulah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we may have one of those. There may be a
Speaker 1: birth in the bathtub. We've been told by neighbors. Fireman.
Speaker 1: We saw Lindsay Rhodes over the weekend from six ft
Speaker 1: away and she told us that her husband has delivered babies.
Speaker 1: He's a fireman. So nine one one might be our
Speaker 1: best bet. But got two months right, it's it's um
Speaker 1: if there's something to be grateful there. If it was
Speaker 1: if you were like two weeks away, that would be
Speaker 1: um an even bigger concern than I'm sure it already,
Speaker 1: is Jesus. Well, if it was two weeks away, then
Speaker 1: I would start to worry about it. She's more in
Speaker 1: the two months, worry not west. You know Ben Leevenberg's
Speaker 1: wife as a duela and be The children that are
Speaker 1: born underwater, UM, no, are notably calmer individuals. Um. I
Speaker 1: can attest that my two children were not born underwater,
Speaker 1: but it's not a terrible um strategy. You don't keep
Speaker 1: them underwater. They're quickly brought out from that, but they're
Speaker 1: coming from essentially a sack of water inside the mother's body.
Speaker 1: To to let you know, I hear you. It feels
Speaker 1: a little to Los Angeles for me personally, but I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna get much of a vote when
Speaker 1: it matters. I'm still hung up on the fact that
Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes husband, who by the way, is essentially like
Speaker 1: a super hot surfer firefighter guy, he's also delivering babies.
Speaker 1: That's a good job by Lindsay r Oats. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a very lucky man too, but wow, what a
Speaker 1: combination right there. Hot fireman. Not just what this is
Speaker 1: actually iced tea, but it does look like whiskey. So
Speaker 1: I'm drinking it out of a whiskey glass. That's what
Speaker 1: we would expect you to say. I'm in back. I'm
Speaker 1: back into because what you gotta do is you gotta
Speaker 1: control the drinking in this situation. And um, there is
Speaker 1: a temptation to just drink every day during this but
Speaker 1: I have now relaxed into more like a weekend drinking
Speaker 1: scenario and then keeping it sober during the week. You
Speaker 1: gotta have set little, um, you know, walls for yourself
Speaker 1: and barriers during this unforeseen time in our lives. That
Speaker 1: sounds nice. I don't think a single person viewing this
Speaker 1: is convinced that nice tea. But continue on with the narrative.
Speaker 1: It's also it's a good it's a good idea. We're
Speaker 1: here Monday afternoon. We'll revisit Friday's show after our fifth grade.
Speaker 1: See how it's going. Yeah, that's fair. Alright, let's do
Speaker 1: some newsday. You will find me company the landslide in
Speaker 1: a paint spen over in the sky a little. That
Speaker 1: is my boy, the eternally great uh Liam Gallagher, formerly
Speaker 1: of Oasis, showing people how to wash your hands during
Speaker 1: the coronavirus pandemic. And you did a fine job, I
Speaker 1: have to say, and I liked this little message at
Speaker 1: the end as well that takes me back about twenty
Speaker 1: five years. I had not about that. I had no
Speaker 1: idea that was actually Liam Gallagher. I just thought it
Speaker 1: was like a like a bad YouTuber doing a bad
Speaker 1: Liam Gallagher impression. He's been all over it recently. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are certain people out there that are attacking this
Speaker 1: everyone inside thing, and I don't want to necessarily put
Speaker 1: names on it, but some people that I found delightful
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I am simply just muting at this point
Speaker 1: because too much of anyone um is too much, and
Speaker 1: there are I could easily come up with a list
Speaker 1: of twenty to thirty people that are going to get
Speaker 1: deep sixed from my hemisphere very soon. At the at
Speaker 1: the day, you know, at the risk of shamelessly plugging
Speaker 1: my other podcast with Throwback Pod, we had our first
Speaker 1: episode taping over the weekend where we addressed a lot
Speaker 1: of what's going on in the music pop culture realm
Speaker 1: and the Gailga dot laed Um imagine song. Did you
Speaker 1: guys all that did not go? Yeah? That was a
Speaker 1: a bomb in the wrong direction. The celebrities are struggling
Speaker 1: a little bit because they don't know what to do
Speaker 1: in their giant houses. Uh so I if you want to,
Speaker 1: if you like cringe comedy, check out Galgha dot And
Speaker 1: is that how you say good goodo whatever? Leading a
Speaker 1: parade of celebrities making full of themselves, singing imagine, and
Speaker 1: then this other thing that's happening. I enjoyed Liam doing
Speaker 1: it because I find him to be very, very entertaining.
Speaker 1: But a lot of celebrities are. They're giving back by
Speaker 1: showing how they wash their hands, which I feel like
Speaker 1: it's just like a fancy way to show how nice
Speaker 1: your kitchen is. Oh yeah, look at me. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to sinc Number eight. You know, warm rushing, warm water,
Speaker 1: beautiful soaps that cost like eighty dollars a bar. Please.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the news. Uh. The Saints
Speaker 1: made a move over the weekend that definitely helps them.
Speaker 1: They signed Emmanuel Sanders, formerly of the forty Niners, to
Speaker 1: a two year, sixteen million dollar deal. Um, this is
Speaker 1: the same Manny Sanders got traded from the Broncos to
Speaker 1: the Niners and then really had a good impact in
Speaker 1: San Francisco with Jimmy Garoppolo and company. The end of
Speaker 1: his season was hampered by an injury, but he's already
Speaker 1: shown he can come back from injury, made it back
Speaker 1: from an achilles uh in his time with Denver. So
Speaker 1: he's a guy. He's older, he's thirty three, um, but
Speaker 1: he showed last year he can play. And the Saints
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, were a team that, despite having the magnificent
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, really needed another guy to add to that
Speaker 1: wide receiver group. This feels like a really nice pairing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love this signing, and I think we spent most
Speaker 1: of last year saying we needed somebody besides Michael Thomas
Speaker 1: to step up in this offense, and Jared Cook ended
Speaker 1: up doing that in the second half of the season
Speaker 1: when Alvin Kamaro was injured. So now you've got Camara
Speaker 1: coming back healthy, Michael Thomas, the best receiver on the planet,
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders, Jared Cook, uh, You've got Malcolm Jenkins added
Speaker 1: to the defense. I feel like with the forty Niners
Speaker 1: losing DeForest Buckner, losing Emmanuel Sanders by by the time
Speaker 1: training camps open, whenever that happens to be, the Saints
Speaker 1: are gonna be people's consensus pick. For the NFC. They're
Speaker 1: the safest pick I think to make the playoffs in
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. Maybe with the Chiefs, Like I give
Speaker 1: Mickey Loomis their general man, sure a lot of credit.
Speaker 1: They are always the team going into the off season
Speaker 1: that people are overly concerned about their salary cap and
Speaker 1: then they always managed to make it work by moving
Speaker 1: a lot of money around. And this contract Chris Westling
Speaker 1: made the best contracts list. I don't like this slander.
Speaker 1: You gave it right off the top because it's perfect
Speaker 1: for a team that like is the ultimate win now team.
Speaker 1: You gotta figure out like Manuel Sanders is a win
Speaker 1: now receiver. He's not gonna honk a lot if he
Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of targets. He fits in well.
Speaker 1: He's known as a great team like he's a perfect
Speaker 1: like role player to add to that team. That's an
Speaker 1: article for you. Do do your list of win now
Speaker 1: teams this offseason. So I was gonna say, do your
Speaker 1: list of guys who honked too much. That's a long list.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's Thursday's show. We're gonna be needing topics.
Speaker 1: Someone should be writing these down. I think that's something
Speaker 1: nice you see happen in the NFL A little bit
Speaker 1: is when someone like Sean Payton goes out and faces
Speaker 1: the forty Niners and in you know, in the game
Speaker 1: last year that was one of the better games we've
Speaker 1: seen in years, and it's Emmanuel Standards who torches them
Speaker 1: for a hundred and fifty seven yards a touchdown receiving
Speaker 1: and then throws a thirty five yard bomb to Raheem Mostart.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, this guy can do a little bit
Speaker 1: of everything. He's also, you know, in a weird, very
Speaker 1: weird offseason. A veteran has been around so many different
Speaker 1: offenses that you can just sort of account on him
Speaker 1: to produce right away no matter what they introduce him to. Alright,
Speaker 1: moving on, UH quarterback news, The New England Patriots are
Speaker 1: obviously a fascination of everyone now in the wake of
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's decision UH to sign with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: and they have to address their quarterback room now. Jared
Speaker 1: Stidham is a guy that they seem to like, but everyone,
Speaker 1: or a lot of people seem to think, come on,
Speaker 1: that's not how this is actually gonna play out, is it.
Speaker 1: Who else is going to be in that room while
Speaker 1: they added someone Brian Hoyer, Uh, the veteran quarterback who
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been with a million teams and
Speaker 1: now he's been on the Patriots for a third time.
Speaker 1: So he comes over uh and joins that room, essentially
Speaker 1: replaces Brady's roster spot for the time being. Greg you, um,
Speaker 1: are a man who supports the Patriots on some level.
Speaker 1: Do you believe there is a a big splash in
Speaker 1: store for New England, either in the next week or
Speaker 1: two or in the draft or is this potentially a
Speaker 1: real situation with Stidham. I mean, the only thing, um,
Speaker 1: that they're gonna make a splash, and it is the
Speaker 1: price of my house on Stidham Corner going up. I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: we've been talking. I've been talking about this on the
Speaker 1: podcast for a while. I thought I thought he was
Speaker 1: a legitimate part of the equation, and this Brian Hoyer
Speaker 1: sign makes me think it's over. I mean, they are
Speaker 1: rolling into two thousand and twenty, I think with Hoyer,
Speaker 1: Stidham and maybe a rookie to be named later. But
Speaker 1: this was the strongest sign yet that Stidham is gonna
Speaker 1: be a huge factor and they don't have much cap space,
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me if they draft someone to
Speaker 1: u it. But Stidham, I think, is a guy they
Speaker 1: have to believe in, or else they wouldn't be acting
Speaker 1: how they're acting. And Hoyer to me is like kind
Speaker 1: of the thing that tells us what they want blamed
Speaker 1: to me, how the Patriots are not going to be
Speaker 1: a bad team in two thousand and twenty. I know
Speaker 1: they have the greatest coach of all time, but the
Speaker 1: roster is not impressive, especially on offense. And when we
Speaker 1: see these teams that go from ten wins down to
Speaker 1: three or four wins, it's because they don't have a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and it's because the quarterback play is abysmal. And whatever,
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham had a great preseason, We've seen tons of
Speaker 1: guys have great preseasons and then flame out and be nothing.
Speaker 1: I just this, this offense gives me no confidence whatsoever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just right. They'd had a low wattage roster in
Speaker 1: many ways last year. And you know, we could talk
Speaker 1: about the Vikings all day long for letting people go
Speaker 1: left and right. And it's not that like stars are
Speaker 1: leaving New England, but people with key roles from a
Speaker 1: year ago were all gone, so their drafts suddenly becomes
Speaker 1: sue were important and I just part of me. I'm
Speaker 1: not rooting against the Patriots necessarily, but it would be
Speaker 1: amazing to see Belichick on a team that simply cannot
Speaker 1: hang with others and have to deal with that on
Speaker 1: a week toweek basis because I feel like he's kind
Speaker 1: of giving a gigantic middle finger to everyone insane. I'm
Speaker 1: not panicking, I'm not signing stars. I'm letting people go
Speaker 1: and signing nobody. I mean, you could have had Dalton,
Speaker 1: you could have gotten Jamis Winston. Never felt like a
Speaker 1: Patriots quarterback to me, but there were guys out there
Speaker 1: and Brian Hoyer does not exactly UM get the season
Speaker 1: ticket holder rushing to the gate to see eight of
Speaker 1: those affairs in Foxboro. UM. I certainly said it with
Speaker 1: a dose of glee because as a fan of an
Speaker 1: a f C East team that's not the Patriots, this
Speaker 1: has been a cause for celebration tom Brady leaving. But
Speaker 1: I kind of mean it that the Patriots aren't special
Speaker 1: if you take Tom Brady out of the equation. There now,
Speaker 1: like so many other teams that are looking for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I think Belichick's greatness as a coach. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna question that, But is there any scenario
Speaker 1: where this is a truly contending team I'm talking Super
Speaker 1: Bowl contending team in the way it's presently constituted. No,
Speaker 1: And I think it'd be hard for anyone to argue that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you. I would argue it just
Speaker 1: because football history has teams that you just don't see coming,
Speaker 1: and they would have to be a team like that,
Speaker 1: the two thousand one Patriots led by Tom Brady being
Speaker 1: one of them. I mean that that was one of them.
Speaker 1: That was a one in a million thing, you know, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there, I'm saying it there is. There'd
Speaker 1: be less surprising teams to make a run and be
Speaker 1: relevant than the team that had the number one defense
Speaker 1: in the NFL last year with most of the key
Speaker 1: people back on that defense led by you know, a
Speaker 1: head coach whoes you know, had a history of finding
Speaker 1: ways to do things even with or without Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they're going to be like a super Bowl team.
Speaker 1: But the X factor that we're not, you know, talking about,
Speaker 1: I was like how good is stid I'm gonna be.
Speaker 1: We have no idea. They don't really know how he's
Speaker 1: gonna be in the regular season. But if he is
Speaker 1: the week one star order, like there is absolutely a
Speaker 1: chance that he's a capable quarterback or else, I don't
Speaker 1: think they would have as much faith in him as
Speaker 1: they do the problem. You know, they just have to
Speaker 1: have a plan. B Brian Hoyer is making a million
Speaker 1: dollars on this contract, so he is not getting even
Speaker 1: decent backup money. He is getting like I may or
Speaker 1: may not make the team type of money. Greg, let
Speaker 1: me ask you one quick thing, like do you I
Speaker 1: you know I have feeling I know your answer is
Speaker 1: gonna be. But the Patriots being in essentially cap hell
Speaker 1: right now, and you can't look at the roster and
Speaker 1: say there's stars all over the place like with with
Speaker 1: another another team that might be paying five or six
Speaker 1: all pros. I mean, do you put any of that
Speaker 1: at the feat of Belichick where there has been a
Speaker 1: number of questionable drafts. Number One, the team cannot go
Speaker 1: out and really sign anyone right now because of the
Speaker 1: cap space. And I know that we all talk about
Speaker 1: Belichick being the greatest GM along with everything else. But
Speaker 1: they're not exactly in a great place to roll out
Speaker 1: um a continuity plan post Tom Brady right now. No,
Speaker 1: they're not, and I think they would have been a
Speaker 1: different points. I guess I would just push back that
Speaker 1: they probably like their roster more than everyone else does.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think their defense of their defense in
Speaker 1: terms of you know, moving from the back to the front,
Speaker 1: their secondary is very much intact. They do have the
Speaker 1: defensive player of the year, so we say they don't
Speaker 1: have stars. They have an offensive line where they haven't fade.
Speaker 1: He's gonna fade quickly. They have an offensive line pairing
Speaker 1: where they have a center who has been great for them,
Speaker 1: who will be returning, one of the best guard combinations
Speaker 1: in the league, a first round pick at left tackle
Speaker 1: they love, and one of the better right tackles in
Speaker 1: the league. So that's like one of the better offensive
Speaker 1: lines on paper, a deep backfield. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: like a great team, but I think you could find
Speaker 1: half the teams in the league with a lot less
Speaker 1: just pure talent than the Patriots. Still, I think it's
Speaker 1: so much positive spin. I think it's time and and
Speaker 1: the counter to that is I think it's a fair
Speaker 1: time to question everything, even mark your comment just now
Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick is a great GM all that was
Speaker 1: all kind of built on the back of Tom Brady
Speaker 1: being his quarterback. So I know he's made a lot
Speaker 1: of shrewd moves throughout his career, but what can he
Speaker 1: do when he doesn't have the greatest quarterback of all time.
Speaker 1: He's also one of the best trade partner. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has fleeced a billion people with trades and basically
Speaker 1: taught other teams how to negotiate trades. So I do
Speaker 1: give him. I don't think he's just it's not been
Speaker 1: like here's the thing. He didn't have the greatest post
Speaker 1: or something here, he didn't have the greatest quarterback of
Speaker 1: all time last year, I stid him is a major
Speaker 1: question mark and corter in the playoffs, right, could could
Speaker 1: totally sink their team, right, but it was it would
Speaker 1: have been the best season. They won twelve games. As
Speaker 1: kind of my point, like they won twelve games. We
Speaker 1: can't have it both ways. That we talked about how
Speaker 1: bad Tom Brady was last year, I mean it's pretty
Speaker 1: much was accepted on this podcast that at best he
Speaker 1: was mediocre and they had an easy schedule and maybe
Speaker 1: they're more like a ten win team, but they they
Speaker 1: found a way to win twelve games that that actually happened.
Speaker 1: They beat some good teams along the way in that
Speaker 1: that shows to me there was kind of a backbone
Speaker 1: that wasn't all based around the quarterback. The problem is,
Speaker 1: is Stidham gonna be okay if he's really the guy,
Speaker 1: or is he gonna be a major, major problem, And
Speaker 1: that's certainly possible. Yeah, I don't think Patriots are gonna stink,
Speaker 1: but I just whether they're actually a team that matters
Speaker 1: right now is more what I'm talking about. And you
Speaker 1: can't have it both ways either. You can't call them
Speaker 1: the number one defense when you sat here and said
Speaker 1: in the last two months of the season that their
Speaker 1: defense was getting worse every week and are no longer dominant.
Speaker 1: I don't trust them on defense to be that good again.
Speaker 1: I think they have it like an It's an asset
Speaker 1: what they have on defense there. I expect them to
Speaker 1: be better than average, but you're right, I don't expect
Speaker 1: them to be nearly that good. Their offense is gonna
Speaker 1: have to be better. I don't think any of us
Speaker 1: have asked this question, Greg, how are you? How you
Speaker 1: holding up? I mean, in addition to the rest of
Speaker 1: the world upside down, the Patriots obviously are matching the
Speaker 1: times that they live in. Even the Red Sox lose
Speaker 1: Chris Sale to Tommy John surgery, that that one really hurt.
Speaker 1: In the Rosenthal household, there was like we we we
Speaker 1: had a hard time getting up that morning. I mean,
Speaker 1: what what is how are you good? It's funny some
Speaker 1: of the listeners and you said I had an unemotion
Speaker 1: in a response to Brady leaving, and I feel so differently,
Speaker 1: like gratitude is an emotion and I and I'm not
Speaker 1: just saying that, Like I feel that more than ever
Speaker 1: right now, not about the Patriots, But aren't the five
Speaker 1: Like haven't you guys thought a lot about how lucky
Speaker 1: we are during this last week or two compared to
Speaker 1: like all the people out there, many of whom we
Speaker 1: know and don't, who are a lot more vulnerable, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we have jobs that are
Speaker 1: paying up. You're kind of taking this in a different
Speaker 1: direction right now, But I feel that I I was joking around.
Speaker 1: I feel the same thing about the Patriots, like they
Speaker 1: could go out in sixteen forever, and I'd be grateful
Speaker 1: for what they gave. I think that's you do occasionally
Speaker 1: have a disconnect with the larger Patriots fan base, and
Speaker 1: I think you just delved into a disconnect right there
Speaker 1: with the oh and sixteen forever. I'm not sure you're
Speaker 1: gonna get too many to sign up for that in
Speaker 1: New England. I I you're a very optimistic Jets fan, Dan,
Speaker 1: and I'm I was always kind of the same way.
Speaker 1: When the Patriots are bad or or the Red Sox
Speaker 1: are bad, it's the same way. People are like, I
Speaker 1: don't know the people that have like full time jobs
Speaker 1: and everything that are winding and I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, well, it sounds like you're doing great
Speaker 1: the Patriots also part ways was Stephen Gaskowski, So the
Speaker 1: end of an era at the quarterback and the kicker
Speaker 1: position he'd been there forever. He's thirty six years old,
Speaker 1: missed the end of last year with a hip surgery.
Speaker 1: Seemed to be trending in the wrong direction, UH in general,
Speaker 1: as he aged, so this is probably pretty easy decision
Speaker 1: that saves some money for the Pats. So that is
Speaker 1: another position, UH that has some unrest. Who is their kicker?
Speaker 1: Last year at the end of the Folk Hero, I
Speaker 1: wonder if he's back. They had like eight of them.
Speaker 1: I really didn't expect a guy on kicker corner to
Speaker 1: be asking who the Patriots kicker was, Like, you know what,
Speaker 1: My my mind is a little scattered right now. I
Speaker 1: have to admit in other former in other former Patriots news, UH,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Fowler of VSPN reports of the Colts intend to
Speaker 1: keep Jacoby Brissette. Jake Briskett, who of course was the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback last year after Andrew lux surprise retirement, would
Speaker 1: figure it now to slide into the number two role
Speaker 1: behind Philip Rivers, who signed the one year, twenty five
Speaker 1: million dollar deal UH to join the Colts in the
Speaker 1: short term. So I even read it, and Peter King
Speaker 1: of NBC wrote that it wasn't even you know, beyond thought,
Speaker 1: that beyond a reason that Jake Priscott could be the
Speaker 1: future answer in India. I don't buy that at all.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any going back once you move
Speaker 1: away from him for a year or however long this
Speaker 1: last with Philip Rivers, but he makes so much sense
Speaker 1: to me as their number two. Yeah, when you um
Speaker 1: asked me too in bed with the cool at the
Speaker 1: press commerce, I I told you what what was going
Speaker 1: on with Jacobe? Did they love him as a human being,
Speaker 1: They just don't want him to be their starting quarterback
Speaker 1: in and I think they still believe in his development too,
Speaker 1: and they are year to year at quarterback. Rivers his
Speaker 1: one year million when none of that money pushed into
Speaker 1: the future. I think if he plays the way he
Speaker 1: did last year in Los Angeles, he's gone, and maybe
Speaker 1: they go back to Brissette and draft another guy. But
Speaker 1: it would not surprise me to see Brissette under center
Speaker 1: next year. I mean, they've also given away their first
Speaker 1: round picks, so if they wanted to make some sort
Speaker 1: of splash and get one of these rookies in the
Speaker 1: first round, they can't do it. They got the Forest
Speaker 1: Buckner instead. Right, Brissette was a guy that their contract.
Speaker 1: I know they love him, but I think if they
Speaker 1: didn't have their that contract where all of his money
Speaker 1: almost was guaranteed this year, that they would have gotten
Speaker 1: rid of him. They wouldn't be paying him sixteen million
Speaker 1: dollars to be someone's backup. But he's one of those
Speaker 1: guys that it would have been more costly to get
Speaker 1: rid of him than it would be to keep him.
Speaker 1: And if you're in that scenario, he's not going to
Speaker 1: be a pain in the locker room. He is a
Speaker 1: good guy. He is a great backup quarterback at the
Speaker 1: very least, So why not just uh, why not just
Speaker 1: keep old Jake around. I'm not buying he's anyone's quarterback
Speaker 1: of the future. This guy's twenty eight or nine years old.
Speaker 1: He's almost as sneaky old as Taysom Hill. Well. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's the backup or the quarterback, but
Speaker 1: they couldn't find themselves in a situation next year where
Speaker 1: he's their best right and he's been there for three years.
Speaker 1: That's the thing when they talk about his development. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's been on that team for three seasons now.
Speaker 1: It's it's not like he just got there. I would
Speaker 1: think Jake brisk had becoming their quarterback again would be
Speaker 1: a last case scenario for them, because they they said
Speaker 1: it at the end of the regular season that they
Speaker 1: got a huge sample size of Brissette and he didn't
Speaker 1: do enough for them. So what would sit him on
Speaker 1: the bench for a year. Bringing him back make him
Speaker 1: their answer a quarterback unless it was an absolute necessity
Speaker 1: where they couldn't find anyone else to play the position. Yep,
Speaker 1: it makes sense, all right. More quarterback news. The Panthers
Speaker 1: trade Kyle Allen to the Redskins. Do we see Kyle
Speaker 1: Allen in London? Was at the quarterback when they beat
Speaker 1: the Bucks? Indeed, yes, speaking of London, we were at
Speaker 1: a somewhat historic game because in that game where the
Speaker 1: Panthers beat the Bucks, in that scene in St. Peter
Speaker 1: King Piece I alluded to a few minutes ago, that
Speaker 1: was the game where the Bucks internally were like, oh no,
Speaker 1: we can't this winstant thing is not gonna work. When
Speaker 1: he threw five picks and had two fumbles. Uh, So
Speaker 1: we were there, We could say, We could always say
Speaker 1: we were there. It was an intense melt chop and
Speaker 1: we were like on the sideline attempting to do sideline
Speaker 1: reporting in one of the lasting drive it off, but
Speaker 1: we pulled it off. But I mean to be thirty
Speaker 1: forty yards away from watching one of the more intense
Speaker 1: quarterback melts of all time was memorable. There was anyway
Speaker 1: Kyle and had a little had his moment. Uh And
Speaker 1: I think it kind of crested in that game in
Speaker 1: London where they had I think had won four or
Speaker 1: five or something along those lines, and then he kind
Speaker 1: of revealed himself to be not maybe the answer. So
Speaker 1: Tom Pelliser reported the Panthers trade Alan to the Redskins,
Speaker 1: uh per a source informed of the situation, the Redskins
Speaker 1: are sending a fifth round pick back in exchange for Alan.
Speaker 1: The trade comes after the Panthers sn XFL star P
Speaker 1: J Walker, who lit up that league and it's abbreviated
Speaker 1: first season, So some musical chairs in the backup positions
Speaker 1: for two squads. It's great news for Dwayne Haskins. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about where is Jamis Winston Gonna Land, Where
Speaker 1: are there some spots you could see for Randy Dalton,
Speaker 1: like who like where the legit competition come in? We
Speaker 1: said Washington, And this makes me think they're not going
Speaker 1: that route. And Kyle Allen supposedly might get a chance
Speaker 1: to compete with Dwayne Haskins a little bit or be
Speaker 1: a guy that's there if Haskins struggles, because Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: likes him. But give me a break. If they're going
Speaker 1: to Kyle Allen that is saying good night to the
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins era. I think it's interesting that, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're Ron Rivera, you're trying. He seems to want
Speaker 1: to sign every Panthers player he can, and Brandon being
Speaker 1: up in Buffalo keeps stealing these Panthers players away for
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, and there's this little inner NFC war. I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting also to watch to see Lewis
Speaker 1: Riddick on Twitter said us that p J Walker, who
Speaker 1: really was pretty awesome um in Houston with the with
Speaker 1: the XFL. I don't know what you can say. The
Speaker 1: competition was that he thought he might steal snaps and
Speaker 1: starts away ultimately from Teddy Bridgewater this year. How I'll
Speaker 1: wait to see it, but he is an interesting player.
Speaker 1: In other news, the New York Giants have added some
Speaker 1: depth to their backfield by way of Dion Lewis, the
Speaker 1: twenty nine year old running back who was cut loose
Speaker 1: by the Titans after this season. It's a one year deal.
Speaker 1: Say Kwan Barkley obviously the man there, but now Dean
Speaker 1: Lewis joins that team. In other news, Nelson Aglare signs
Speaker 1: a one year contract with the Raiders, right eyes and Aguilar,
Speaker 1: who had his moments in Philly but really could never
Speaker 1: win the trust of the fans and apparently of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff in front office because of his poor pair
Speaker 1: of hands. Uh. He now gets a fresh start with
Speaker 1: the Raiders who are still looking to um improve on
Speaker 1: that wider suit receiver group that just got killed by
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown going nuts. So that a look for the
Speaker 1: Raiders to address that in the draft. Well, I feel
Speaker 1: like after five years of Nelson aghil Are, the one
Speaker 1: thing that I feel like I have a good sense
Speaker 1: of is that he can only be a good receiver
Speaker 1: when he's playing primarily in the slot. That's when the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl year, when he had a good year, he
Speaker 1: was playing the slot. And the Raiders have Greg's boy
Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro there. I don't like him as the number
Speaker 1: two receiver playing outside. Mm hmm. They need they need
Speaker 1: some more receivers. I mean they have signed to just
Speaker 1: about everyone possible and in the off season like Mike
Speaker 1: Mack's getting busy, Eli Apple, Corey little to Nick Nick Koyaikowski,
Speaker 1: Carl Nasson, Malik Collins, are Witten Mariota like They have
Speaker 1: signed a little bit of everything, but the one position
Speaker 1: that was probably the most desperate was receiver, and A
Speaker 1: isn't really doing a lot for me. Neither nor is
Speaker 1: Jason Witten at the tight end option. But they have
Speaker 1: some pieces there as well. Greg, did Hunter Renfroze rookie
Speaker 1: season well, not spectacular, but certainly productive from where he's
Speaker 1: taken in the draft. Did that change how you feel
Speaker 1: about rookies with suspect hairlines? No, I think that's a
Speaker 1: red flag. I mean, you're not going to be respected
Speaker 1: in the locker room. And um my thing with renfro
Speaker 1: was just throwing the ball to him early in the
Speaker 1: season was wildly inefficient and h he he played quite
Speaker 1: well down the stretch. I'm not giving up. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that this guy is gonna be great, though. Let's
Speaker 1: come down so you're not a lot with your hair
Speaker 1: these days too. I mean, we've we've had people couched
Speaker 1: inside our own UH network that we went to a
Speaker 1: few media summits, and I can think of one individual
Speaker 1: who suddenly, after years of being I thought bald, showed
Speaker 1: up with a thick, full head of hair out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: And Jason Witten is an example right on the raiders
Speaker 1: of the creative ways you can handle things. Greg, did
Speaker 1: you say you're not giving up on giving up on
Speaker 1: Hunter Redfroll? Yeah, exactly. Finally in the news, ESPN says
Speaker 1: no thank you to UH, or excuse me, Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: says no thank you to ESPN, The Post has learned sources.
Speaker 1: According to Andrew Martin, who is just all over this
Speaker 1: story for the Post, UH sources say the overriding factor
Speaker 1: was whether Manning finally wanted to enter the broadcast booth
Speaker 1: and commit to the weekly schedule in the fall. The
Speaker 1: answer remains no. So from where we were a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago, when it was very exciting the thought of
Speaker 1: Al Michael's and Peyton Manning being the Monday Night dream
Speaker 1: team UH and Mike Rico getting his shot on Sunday
Speaker 1: Night earlier than expected with Chris Collinsworth for NBC, none
Speaker 1: of that's happening. Al remains with NBC and Collinsworth and ESPN,
Speaker 1: I don't know where they go quite quite honestly, because Uh,
Speaker 1: it's clear they want to make a change, but they
Speaker 1: don't have a solution right now. And if your booger
Speaker 1: and test it tour. It's it's obvious, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a business and that I guess it's hard not to
Speaker 1: take it personally. But they are publicly at least it's
Speaker 1: being publicly reported trying to replace you. Can you bring
Speaker 1: those guys back? How does it work? I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out. Kurt Warner was reportedly their second option.
Speaker 1: I think Marshawn had that as well, So maybe we'll
Speaker 1: see him. And I've said this before, but I've I've
Speaker 1: liked when he's done a playoff game here and there,
Speaker 1: the Saturday night games with Rich Eyesen and and um,
Speaker 1: he's I think Kurt Warner has done a really good job.
Speaker 1: He does great work on Radio two. And I think
Speaker 1: the difference between Kurt Warner and Peyton Manning is that
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner has discovered that he enjoys broadcasting football. I
Speaker 1: I get that Peyton Manning keeps getting matched with these
Speaker 1: dream roles, you know, years on end, But I don't
Speaker 1: get any sense that Peyton Manning has any real innate
Speaker 1: desire to be a color analyst for the NFL. I mean,
Speaker 1: is does it is there any hint that that's the case. No,
Speaker 1: not so far. Not so far. Maybe in time, but
Speaker 1: at this point no, and ESPN is probably pretty bummed
Speaker 1: about it. West, did you say Andrew marsiand are you
Speaker 1: have that on authority? Are you just going with a
Speaker 1: alternate reading of his name. I'm just going by how
Speaker 1: my history have seen that name pronounced Marando. I mean
Speaker 1: that's where, that's the route, um, where it came from
Speaker 1: from the old country. Can be dead wrong. Can you
Speaker 1: get on this, Ricky. I think it's Andrew marchand West
Speaker 1: says it is Andrew Martian. Yeah. I think you're both right. No,
Speaker 1: I need you to do research on this. Reach out
Speaker 1: to the New York Post please, Okay, Yeah, I'm on it. Okay, great.
Speaker 1: Uh And that's what's happening in the news. All right, Mark,
Speaker 1: I wanted to touch base with you on something because
Speaker 1: I know there's been a lot of questions about you
Speaker 1: and your airbnb set up. Well. Now we have an
Speaker 1: update on the city situation from Simone Sessler on Twitter.
Speaker 1: A big thank you to Mark Sessler for figuring out
Speaker 1: how we can both work and homeschool our boys. I
Speaker 1: took over his home office and we got a cheap
Speaker 1: airbnb studio around the corner as a quiet office space
Speaker 1: to podcast and take turns getting breaks. We both homeschool
Speaker 1: the boys. My hero Wow, she wrote my hero or
Speaker 1: did she wrote it? She need to add to that. Now.
Speaker 1: The initial thought, and this is fairer unfair, is that
Speaker 1: you had something to do with this tweet yesterday. That
Speaker 1: was your initial thought. And I said fairer or weight
Speaker 1: into that degree. I think it's unfair because you know,
Speaker 1: I did reply. I did reply to Simone. Okay, Mark, yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I'm you know, I fired back
Speaker 1: at you if if the if the were kernels of
Speaker 1: that that were true. But here's the thing. The plan
Speaker 1: played out, um in a in a perfect way because
Speaker 1: I needed it, you know, almost entirely when free Agency
Speaker 1: was in its frenzy period, and you know, and we
Speaker 1: have tried to figure out how to keep this house.
Speaker 1: Come currently, I'm in a what used to be a bedroom.
Speaker 1: It now just looks like a ramshackle um Northern Quadrant
Speaker 1: of Iran. But I have the door locked. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got setup that in the week and a half
Speaker 1: and you've got yours looking beautiful and well again it's
Speaker 1: like it's it tracks back to being um, you know,
Speaker 1: caring about the show and being a professional. But the
Speaker 1: Airbnb thing, for simone side of it. UM paid incredible
Speaker 1: dividends from the Friday through Sunday period where I, you know,
Speaker 1: as any good husband would try to do, get out
Speaker 1: of here. You've been dealing with these kids for you know,
Speaker 1: four or five days, and we're we're I think, like
Speaker 1: with a lot of people, I I'm with Greg. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to complain about anything. I've kind of enjoyed
Speaker 1: UM homeschooling them a little bit and now then it
Speaker 1: gets to be a little bit too much. But they
Speaker 1: are here twenty four Evan. They're not allowed to wander
Speaker 1: the streets obviously, so you're we're just trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out. And that was an incredible UM investment for
Speaker 1: the one and a half week period. It just it worked,
Speaker 1: and I would suggest it, well, it's so it's we
Speaker 1: had it. We have it for a couple more days,
Speaker 1: but it's lost. It's based function other than I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give her another night off because it's just you know,
Speaker 1: these you have these little kids, they wake up at
Speaker 1: like six o'clock in the morning. Needs that when how
Speaker 1: far away is it? I could walk there in five minutes.
Speaker 1: It is literally I could also see NFL network out
Speaker 1: the window of it, and I initially thought we were
Speaker 1: gonna have to go into this nob We're gonna go
Speaker 1: into the studio and all this stuff. And then society
Speaker 1: just said everything is over, and so the proximity mattered
Speaker 1: less because because you know, one of them things people
Speaker 1: are stressing here during all this social distancing is you've
Speaker 1: got to keep that connection going. And that's not just
Speaker 1: with people that you you know over the phone or
Speaker 1: anything that that's with your wife. And I'm thinking, these
Speaker 1: kids follow us leap, it's only five minutes away. You
Speaker 1: never know, you never know. I I'm just saying, but
Speaker 1: once they're asleep, you know, it's a it's a crafty plan, Greg.
Speaker 1: In our practice, we don't typically leave the nine and
Speaker 1: seven years in the house. An I legal plan, I
Speaker 1: would say, in terms of how the lawses child rearing,
Speaker 1: as Gregg pointed out the last show that the l
Speaker 1: A Police seem to have vanished entirely, So I think
Speaker 1: you could probably get away. I've not seen a policeman anywhere.
Speaker 1: Not Every romantic rendezvous was above board as far as
Speaker 1: the law is concerned. Sometimes dangerously. Yeah, thank you, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's true. There would be guilt though if you did
Speaker 1: do that and you return and your youngest, say, has
Speaker 1: a horrific nightmare and he's stumbling around the house looking
Speaker 1: for a parent to hold, Yeah, I feel tad guilty.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that that question. It's calmed down
Speaker 1: about the idea of you know, sometimes love and passion
Speaker 1: can't be held by laws. I mean the need you.
Speaker 1: I don't think the coronavirus and what's happening to our
Speaker 1: country has done an incredible amount for people's um marriage
Speaker 1: libido scenarios in general. I mean that's I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: suggest it's not a high point in the you've got
Speaker 1: that backhouse though, I forgot about that. The shack, well,
Speaker 1: you can go to the shack and get away with
Speaker 1: it is because you're still on the property and you
Speaker 1: know anyway, these are all these are all possibilities for you, buddy. Um,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Greg Road a sub banger by
Speaker 1: his own estimation. Here's the headline, NFL Free Agency's best
Speaker 1: Contracts colon Cousins Extension smart I mean headline. Those headline,
Speaker 1: guys have not the headlines are always revealed to me
Speaker 1: by you, Dan, But yeah, wait, this is one of
Speaker 1: the I'm reading this now and I don't know how
Speaker 1: they came up with this, but I they're a wonderful
Speaker 1: editing team. Love them like whatever can get the most controversy,
Speaker 1: that's got to be the headline. Let's get into it, Greg,
Speaker 1: you mentioned Kirk Cousins, you know, so you could look
Speaker 1: at it two ways. Greg. With Cousins, it's a nice deal. Um,
Speaker 1: it keeps stability at the position. There might be other people,
Speaker 1: In fact, there are that's say that this guy is,
Speaker 1: you know, fairly pedestrian and he hasn't been able to
Speaker 1: get him over the hub in the first two years,
Speaker 1: and now you're essentially tying yourself to him for half
Speaker 1: a decade. Speak to that. I liked it just from
Speaker 1: a financial point of view because it only added one
Speaker 1: year of guaranteed money. It's two years, sixty six million,
Speaker 1: but it only if they wanted to they could get
Speaker 1: out of it out of two years, so it's not
Speaker 1: half a decade. It's basically just tacking one extra year on.
Speaker 1: But then you don't have to go into the season
Speaker 1: with all the questions of is he a franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: or not. It's like they've made a decision. They saved
Speaker 1: ten million dollars in cap space by doing the move.
Speaker 1: They were decisive about it, and uh, when the contract
Speaker 1: ends and he might not get another one from Minnesota, Like,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if he's not in the top
Speaker 1: ten highest paid order backs in the league. So it's
Speaker 1: really not like a crazy amount of money an ease. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I stand into all of your ability to uh generate
Speaker 1: strong feelings one way or another on that contract. M
Speaker 1: I just like the move. Here's the here's the reason
Speaker 1: why he's not on board with this segment because I'm
Speaker 1: getting that Cousin got another thirty million. I mean because
Speaker 1: I'm I've killed and I hate what the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: done and I hate what the Redskins did with Cousins
Speaker 1: last time. And this is the opposite of that. When
Speaker 1: they would have had every reason to do that that
Speaker 1: it would have cost them more money in the long run,
Speaker 1: Uh to wait around and and been a little bit
Speaker 1: of a problem. Instead, you open up cap space. Now,
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are gonna pay for it. Another
Speaker 1: move you like Greg Jason Hargrave formerly of the Steelers,
Speaker 1: joins uh An Eagles defense that was not lacking guys
Speaker 1: that can get it done on the defensive line, but
Speaker 1: now they are, you know, downright scary with Hardgrave involved. Yeah.
Speaker 1: West West talked up the Eagles moves the other day,
Speaker 1: and I totally agreed. It's about getting like in act players,
Speaker 1: and I like teams that have an identity and they
Speaker 1: build strength on strength, and that defensive line is their strength.
Speaker 1: Malik Jackson's gonna be healthy again next year. So you
Speaker 1: have Jackson, Hargrave, Fletcher Cox, Derek Barnett. That's a good
Speaker 1: it's a good brand. And I don't think it was
Speaker 1: too expensive to get him either, at least compared to
Speaker 1: other defensive lineman free agency. What move? What's the move
Speaker 1: you hated? Do I want to hear West? What did
Speaker 1: you not like about it? Let's hear that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just like, of course, Greg's gonna say he
Speaker 1: hated Todd Gurley. You've always hated him, never credited him
Speaker 1: as a good running back. You've never liked Robert Squinn,
Speaker 1: like all these guys. See, I wouldn't expect anyone you,
Speaker 1: I mean, to remember who I like or don't like,
Speaker 1: but Quinn has been one of my favorite players, I
Speaker 1: would say over the last time every year for the
Speaker 1: last three or four years. And then when he played
Speaker 1: light out, absolutely lights out with the Cowboys last year,
Speaker 1: like that didn't seem to factor into your analysis. It did.
Speaker 1: But there's a reason why he cost five million dollars
Speaker 1: on a one year contract the year before, and why
Speaker 1: why he's been on so many different teams five straight years.
Speaker 1: He's had an injury problem until last year. So are
Speaker 1: you going to trust the four years before that or
Speaker 1: you're gonna trust just last year? Trust the last time
Speaker 1: I saw him, which was unblockable. Well, the Bears agree
Speaker 1: with you, and they must have felt the same about
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham. You know, the last time they saw him,
Speaker 1: he had like a thirty yard catch and you'll see
Speaker 1: that again, Like what you were looking at Jimmy the
Speaker 1: playoff game, he had a thirty yard catch. I think
Speaker 1: it was the only one all year, and they were like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that guy must be great. How long did it take
Speaker 1: him to cover those thirty yards? And minutes? All right? West?
Speaker 1: What else did you hate about what Greg wrote? That's
Speaker 1: it just just the part where I knew he would
Speaker 1: bashtak Girl and Robert Quinn. Well, what's what is the instinct? Okay,
Speaker 1: the Falcons have like no caps ace relatively, and that's
Speaker 1: what they're saving it for. Like, why why do you
Speaker 1: have to pay Todd Gurley six million dollars? I don't
Speaker 1: because I don't have to, But but I understand the
Speaker 1: low risk of that, Like one year six million dollars
Speaker 1: for a guy who another year removed and it's not
Speaker 1: like he even had surgery. What if he just flashes
Speaker 1: that form again? What if he gets to be like
Speaker 1: eight pent of what he was when he was Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. Now you've got a great offense
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I will give this to Greg. If someone
Speaker 1: assigned me the shore of coming up financially with the
Speaker 1: best and worst contracts, I'd be a child blindfolded in
Speaker 1: the woods in the middle of the night. I have
Speaker 1: no idea how to write that, So I think Greg
Speaker 1: was the right person to author this. Be like your
Speaker 1: children searching the Los Angeles streets looking for their parents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're out at the hotel. It's also like, yeah, go ahead, West.
Speaker 1: I would say it's well reasoned and well written. I
Speaker 1: just you know, I gotta have something for the show
Speaker 1: where I rip on Greg's you know, the same guys
Speaker 1: he always hates are on here again and also down
Speaker 1: Down and West has a loaded gun in his right hand.
Speaker 1: So get out of this as quick as possible. Our
Speaker 1: editor Phil Specter, you know, he has me working on
Speaker 1: power rankings for tomorrow. It's a kind of similar, Greg,
Speaker 1: though also in a good way. That is, you can't
Speaker 1: be right or wrong with this. Well, I looked at
Speaker 1: last year this that I made, and tell believe me,
Speaker 1: you can be wrong. There are some Kenneth was on
Speaker 1: the Worst Contracts list that might have been the best
Speaker 1: for you. But you can study of all time. You
Speaker 1: can't be right or wrong on the day you publish it.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Randall Cobb, come at me. That's what I
Speaker 1: feel pretty strong about. By the way, that's a terrible contract.
Speaker 1: That was like we didn't get we just traded DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins and he was our plan and we're just gonna
Speaker 1: pay him whatever he wants. Does it hurt you a
Speaker 1: little bit now NFL network shut down. This would have
Speaker 1: been a great little seg for you to have your
Speaker 1: tie on and the the pocket square and you'd be
Speaker 1: going through all these with Siciliana or money, and it'd
Speaker 1: be a real moment for you and it kind of
Speaker 1: it's out the door. Well, how how have those moments
Speaker 1: really made an impact in the world at large previously?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if it would have been
Speaker 1: a moment as you described, more personal moment. Because by
Speaker 1: the way, for programming, I can think of an hour
Speaker 1: long show that we could offer daily, five days a week.
Speaker 1: Where's the why are they? Why are we failing to
Speaker 1: drum up interest? With these people walking around the third floor?
Speaker 1: We have no idea. Where do we get contact? Let's
Speaker 1: replay Tom Brady's two thousand and eight Week eight victory
Speaker 1: four times in a row. I don't know. You could
Speaker 1: have picked any any year, um, except two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: That would be something I don't know because it's I
Speaker 1: probably just argued against my own point right there. Nothing ever,
Speaker 1: nothing for me, will ever beat what they had in
Speaker 1: the air Friday. It was called the Jamis Winston Showcase. Well,
Speaker 1: I just love that created Well that was a tough spot.
Speaker 1: That was the night before because I was supposed to
Speaker 1: be on now on Friday afternoon last Friday and watching
Speaker 1: our Mayor Eric Garcetti announced that we're now in in
Speaker 1: our shutdown. That's like the only time the mayor is
Speaker 1: ever going to tell me that my had has been canceled.
Speaker 1: Don't need to wait for the internal email on that one. UM.
Speaker 1: Finally before we go today, so check it out NFL
Speaker 1: dot com slash Rosenthal. Um did anybody was anyone else
Speaker 1: alarmed by Ben Roethlisberger's appearance appearance in his Let's listen
Speaker 1: to a little bit of Big Ben Ricky if we
Speaker 1: con couldn't Steelers? Hey everyone, Ben Roethlisberger here. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to take a moment to make a quick video
Speaker 1: to let everyone know that we're doing well here locked
Speaker 1: down in the house, and UM, let everyone know we're
Speaker 1: thinking about them and praying for everyone. And UM if
Speaker 1: you absolutely have to leave your house, which we encourage
Speaker 1: not doing, but if you have to, I just hope
Speaker 1: everyone practices good social distancing. UM six eight feet away
Speaker 1: from every one. UM. But if you're locked down in
Speaker 1: your house like we are, there's a lot of fun
Speaker 1: things that you can do and figure out. We spent
Speaker 1: the morning, uh figure out curriculum for the for the
Speaker 1: next few weeks of and he just goes on and
Speaker 1: on and and it's it's funny how um he expected
Speaker 1: everyone to not be like thinking only about what was
Speaker 1: going on with his beard and his face and his hair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, yeah, you know, I think he could take
Speaker 1: a tip from you, Dan, because I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: overall presentation and a little bit of redkin up top
Speaker 1: might turn that from um sort of trapped mountain man
Speaker 1: to swell and trim the beard a little. But his
Speaker 1: message is very nice. But I find his appearance to
Speaker 1: be um from ten years from now. I would if
Speaker 1: if someone said this is from I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: yeah it is. Yeah, he's still talking. By the way,
Speaker 1: he could also use the redkin. Would be fine because
Speaker 1: he could use a little style up top. But what
Speaker 1: about Greg's beard oil, Yeah, I mean sculpt that thing.
Speaker 1: He looks like an a then in regular at hucka Poos.
Speaker 1: I think I've had many Yeager. I mean he looks
Speaker 1: like he could play right guard. That's the elephant in
Speaker 1: the room. And then uh, he's cutting his own hair.
Speaker 1: That much is clear if you look at the top,
Speaker 1: he is cutting his own hair. Was that a figure
Speaker 1: of speech? Are you actually calling big Ben an elephant
Speaker 1: in the room. Well, why do you think he's got
Speaker 1: the beard? He was the only quarterback with multiple chins,
Speaker 1: so he had to cover it up. He he is,
Speaker 1: you know, and not trying to be mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a man of generous carriage myself. But
Speaker 1: like he's over three hund pounds right, Well, it's like
Speaker 1: seventy of that is in his beard. Hair. I didn't
Speaker 1: see the rest of the body. For me to make
Speaker 1: that claim, I'd want him to um reveal the rest
Speaker 1: of what's happening with the body. He could be, he
Speaker 1: could be a guy. Maybe just he gains it in
Speaker 1: the face. I mean, it's it's possible. But we don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about him blocking any of us because
Speaker 1: he's already blocked all of us and the rest that
Speaker 1: is true. I just I'm looking forward to well, I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to the World Reserve returning to normal and
Speaker 1: there being a season. But then after that, I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to training camp and Big Ben shows up and
Speaker 1: he's cut out of marble. That's like that would be
Speaker 1: one of the great shocks, and I would be so
Speaker 1: pumped up, Like like Brad Pitt on the roof and
Speaker 1: Once upon a Time in Hollywood when he takes the
Speaker 1: shirt off right Mark, Yeah, I'm not I thought he
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt looks um he he fit that scene. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna get that from Big Ben, And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't if I if I had a house, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put Big Ben on my roof because I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that he doesn't go right through it at this point,
Speaker 1: So I don't need You can't even get a construction
Speaker 1: man to your house at this point, So no, no thanks.
Speaker 1: Who is West? You're a great historian of the game.
Speaker 1: Who is the last plus sized quarterback to thrive? To thrive? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you might have to go back to like Sonny Jorgenson
Speaker 1: for that, But I mean the first guy you think
Speaker 1: of is the Pillsbury throwboy, right of course? Rest in peace? Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I think Sonny. Yeah, you gotta go back to the seventies. Probably,
Speaker 1: it's probably. I don't know about any eighties from from
Speaker 1: the time they started getting millions of dollars. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can come to camp like pounds anymore. Well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's a fascinating subplot around the Steelers and uh,
Speaker 1: just trim it up, Ben, that's all. Just trim it up.
Speaker 1: I mean we're growing out our beards too, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. You just you can't let it get scraggly
Speaker 1: like that because you start to look a little nuts
Speaker 1: after a while. Yeah, you're not gonna walk walk over
Speaker 1: his bridge. No, No, somebody else have a bridge joke. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, good stuff, guys. Um we we'll be back
Speaker 1: tomorrow with another show and we will track what's going
Speaker 1: on in the NFL. And uh that is and that
Speaker 1: is good advice. I will say though from Big Ben
Speaker 1: to continue practicing your social distancing and uh. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: an animal is attacking somebody. Come on, Rick, he cleaned
Speaker 1: it up. That's that's um. What's his name, old Pago
Speaker 1: So you can't hear him all Pugo. I wanted to
Speaker 1: call Toto, but it's it's not Toto. I guess it's
Speaker 1: that time because Walkers. The other day he was doing
Speaker 1: a podcast by himself. I was about football, it was
Speaker 1: about animals. But he likes the microphone setup. I'll subscribe.
Speaker 1: Hello alright, very very very clearly pronounced, speaks directly into
Speaker 1: the mic. That's one of the first tenants of broadcasting.
Speaker 1: All Right, guys, Ricky, let's do this again tomorrow and
Speaker 1: uh until then, this has been around the NFL Podcast,
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Speaker 1: S is Dan Hanson, signing off four The Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Old Boss, the Little Boss, Ricky Hollywood
Speaker 1: behind the glass until toast that that was the end.
Speaker 1: He is that, Yeah, well we're here, We're just all
Speaker 1: going to stay by. I don't know if there's anything
Speaker 1: say hello, hello, hello, hello, yeah. What what do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about on your podcast? Walker? Do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about the Patriots? I know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to tell Walker that he's he's a paper coming
Speaker 1: on Patriots fan like the precise worst time. Hello hello,
Speaker 1: all right, Patriotte who likes the Eagles? My sister, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she also likes the Lambs. She likes the Rams and
Speaker 1: the Chargers probably the best now and maybe the Bucks
Speaker 1: and Eagles next. What did you think about Tom Brady? Walker? No, no,
Speaker 1: you weren't happy, all right,