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Speaker 1: She goes by the name of Angela Staton King, and

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Speaker 1: And I love it. I'm all about grown woman business.

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Speaker 1: that lifestyle at an early early earage. So those are

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Speaker 1: something the things that I also don't agree with. What

430
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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I hate Black people. It doesn't mean

431
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Speaker 1: I don't love black people. It doesn't mean that when

432
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Speaker 1: I go in and I'm advocating and I'm fighting or

433
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Speaker 1: I'm asking for things to be done, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: advocating on my half of black people because when it

435
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Speaker 1: comes to my experience, the only experience I have is

436
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Speaker 1: Black people. And so my difference is even though they

437
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Speaker 1: have been following me and on my story from me

438
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Speaker 1: being set up my favor who was a black woman,

439
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Speaker 1: somebody that I thought was returning, somebody that I looked

440
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Speaker 1: up to, it I trusted. I think where we defer

441
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Speaker 1: at is not necessarily and you but a lot of

442
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Speaker 1: me and levels is while they want to point your

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Speaker 1: feet and so much that the white man, I know

444
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Speaker 1: that black people should do the same ship. I'm not

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Speaker 1: in the black you understand, because throughout my life, when

446
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: it comes to my knees, when it comes to my

447
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: best friend, when it comes to somehow homeboy is my partners,

448
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: everybody I know that's been wrong, the molested, is set up,

449
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Speaker 1: being killed or whatever. I know that these things that

450
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Speaker 1: happened at the hands of someone that looks like us.

451
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Speaker 1: So for us to believe that we just gotta folcus

452
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Speaker 1: on solely on white issues and not bring us together,

453
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Speaker 1: focus on the things that we have done each other

454
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Speaker 1: or how we can begin to uplift each other. And

455
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: I think that's what's the issue for me. But I

456
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Speaker 1: want to make it clear, Nigga, I'm black to be black.

457
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Speaker 1: You don't get a little blackness. And I'm gonna always

458
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Speaker 1: be black, and I don't have an issue. I will

459
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Speaker 1: never not playing my hood is on three something here.

460
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Speaker 1: My cousin is none of that. But I think that

461
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Speaker 1: we can begin to look at things differently and we

462
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Speaker 1: can begin to make better decisions, and that my life

463
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Speaker 1: can be an example of that, because, like I said,

464
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Speaker 1: I am all I knew at one point was all

465
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Speaker 1: I knew how to do was I had to teach

466
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Speaker 1: myself how to take that hustle mentality and turning into

467
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Speaker 1: something legal to be able to sustand for me and

468
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Speaker 1: my daughter. I made like I want to give what

469
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Speaker 1: I am the people I know. It's just like me,

470
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Speaker 1: the people that I live mind, so I ain't got

471
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Speaker 1: that boring with a silver full in my mouth. I

472
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Speaker 1: want to put on the tap dance for the white people.

473
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Speaker 1: Because anybody's been follow me. I don't know how I

474
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Speaker 1: get attacked by both sides, regardless even my reprob can't

475
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Speaker 1: I get attacked by both sides because I stand for

476
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Speaker 1: what's right and I'm not here the time. My back

477
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Speaker 1: on the black race. That's all that I fight for.

478
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Speaker 1: That's why I'm screaming about abortion and how we need

479
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Speaker 1: to make sure that we're in christing out numbers and

480
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Speaker 1: not you're preaching. I know I care about black life.

481
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: I care about black people and before politics. Like I said,

482
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: I've been in the community for the past sixteen years,

483
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Speaker 1: giving out free game, teaching them how to start businesses,

484
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Speaker 1: teaching them how to build business credit, showing them how

485
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Speaker 1: to become published off and showing them a legal way

486
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Speaker 1: to make some money going inside of the prison, sitting

487
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Speaker 1: inside of our jusil out attention says, but this ain't nothing.

488
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Speaker 1: I just got started or got in with Trump and

489
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden just got a name from my

490
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm really been putting into work, and I just thank

491
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Speaker 1: you for one for giving me a chance to let

492
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Speaker 1: people know that that you don't know that. But you

493
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Speaker 1: get these people that just, oh, we hate Trump, we

494
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Speaker 1: hate Trump, so we gotta hate you. You know how

495
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Speaker 1: they're gonna help how if you haven't hate for him,

496
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Speaker 1: and then reflecting their head on me when all I'm

497
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Speaker 1: doing is I'm reading in my favor, Like, am I

498
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Speaker 1: supposed to say, No, hell no, I ain't going to

499
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Speaker 1: talk to the president about the first step and or

500
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have your president to let do Tanner

501
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Speaker 1: out or trying to kill factor these people back deal

502
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Speaker 1: section because y'all hate them. No, I'm supposed to go

503
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Speaker 1: in because I have favor because I do. Haven't see

504
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Speaker 1: that at the table and say, hey, look this is

505
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Speaker 1: what's going on in the black community. What can we

506
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Speaker 1: do to health the Black community. If ain't nobody at

507
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Speaker 1: the table advocate for us, who're gonna do well. I'm

508
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Speaker 1: glad you made that point to point out that you're

509
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Speaker 1: not Candas owns and I know, and again that's no

510
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Speaker 1: dis to her. It's just to the simple fact that

511
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: people do try to make the compare they do with me.

512
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Speaker 1: If they see me on Fox, they automatically think, oh, yeah,

513
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Speaker 1: you know, I get people to me O time you

514
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Speaker 1: and Candid your hook up for you and this and

515
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: her and I are just two different women. I've been

516
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Speaker 1: on panels with her before, but we're different. I I

517
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Speaker 1: can tell you know by the way she moved that

518
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: we're just different. The thing with me is Angela, I

519
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Speaker 1: don't and that's why this show was so important to me.

520
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't try to change. Like you can have your opinion,

521
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here with you this entire thirty

522
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Speaker 1: minutes and convince you why your opinion is wrong, no

523
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Speaker 1: more than you can give vince to me on my opinion.

524
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like how I feel, it's

525
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Speaker 1: how I feel. I think we can have conversations to

526
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Speaker 1: see why I believe what I believe and you believe

527
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Speaker 1: with you believe and let the people decide. The common

528
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Speaker 1: goal is who is out here pushing for black people? Period?

529
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Speaker 1: I think and I will say this, and I've said

530
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Speaker 1: this before. I don't just say it behind the scenes.

531
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Speaker 1: I'm saying it on the scene. I think you are

532
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: a strong advocate for the conservative movement. I wish you

533
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Speaker 1: wouldn't attached to Trump because I think that that that stops.

534
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Speaker 1: And I'm saying you should have shouldn't because I'm not

535
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Speaker 1: here to tell you how you should rock like you

536
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Speaker 1: said he supported you. Hey, anything or anybody or anything

537
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: about streets. You funk with those and funk with you.

538
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Speaker 1: Whether I like that or not, that's just that's just

539
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: what it is. But nobody didn't call. They flog that

540
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: they come in because I don't like you. Know what

541
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you gotta plug, you got you got something

542
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Speaker 1: that I needed. When I'm gonna do, I'm gonna come

543
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Speaker 1: high let you and ask you to go hiw let

544
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: your people. That's just not how I ain't going the streets.

545
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: So I just don't understand what these people expect from me.

546
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Speaker 1: Do you You don't you know get what y'all feel like?

547
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: You can feel however they want to feel about Trump, fine,

548
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: because I feel certain ways about and I'm just saying,

549
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: just for clarity, I don't give a ship about knowing them.

550
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: Let's just go down the list fighting Obama, Clinton, Trump,

551
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: Like I said, I charged up Bernie Sanders shot oh yeah, no,

552
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: literally for racism whoever it is. You know what I'm saying.

553
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: So and this was done publicly, not behind the scenes

554
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: on the scene, because I'm about, well, what's best for

555
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: black people, period, So I could care less about any

556
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: of What I'm saying is you have a voice that

557
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: I know can touch certain people in certain demographics, just

558
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: like I feel I can touch certain people on the

559
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: left side or the independent side that I know a

560
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: lot of these cornball commentators could never touch because they

561
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: haven't lived that lifestyle. Let's just keep it real. Everybody

562
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: on the left is not just everybody is so in

563
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: touch with black folks. I mean, let's just be honest

564
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: about that ship Again, no disrespect to nobody. I'm just

565
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: saying there's a certain demographic that will never hear you

566
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Speaker 1: know what they say. One thing, you know, I was

567
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: telling Charlet Maine another day, I said, the hood can

568
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: always flip but people can't always flip to the hoods.

569
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Speaker 1: This difference. You can change it. If you're from the hood,

570
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: you can figure out how to make this move and

571
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: do whatever. We can flip to them, but they could

572
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: never flip to us because that's a life status you

573
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: have to live and understand and experience. So we have

574
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: a different gifts to be able to move in certain

575
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: spaces that other people just not be able to move.

576
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Speaker 1: And I want to say this to be clear, right,

577
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: you know now, I'm very grateful for the relationship that

578
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: that has been bestowed upon me to have with the president. Right,

579
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna apologize for that because everything that I've

580
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: gotten from it as they beneficially for me before. Our

581
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: community won't talk about the permanent funding of HBCUs, when

582
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: we talk about the funding, play of parenthood, when we

583
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: talk about opportunities ows, when we talk about the first step,

584
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: and when we talk about parts for people that have

585
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: been in president. I'm not going to apologize that. But

586
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: what I will say is that I work for the

587
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: Black community to send each as right now they're seeing

588
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is the president of left. So January comes

589
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: with no reason that Trump is not in here and

590
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is in there. That doesn't mean that do

591
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: work for the Black community. I still do what I

592
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: have to do for the community, regardless of who's president

593
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: and the relationship that I've been able to create with

594
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Speaker 1: Trump and not any his family, but that goes far

595
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Speaker 1: beyond the president. And again, like I said, if Trump

596
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: has been the person to put me in a position

597
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: where I could go when I put on the road

598
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: from Line to say, guys, I'm raising money to rebuild

599
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: this community, sent up for all the Georgia for Black America.

600
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: Where you donate and SHUMP supporters are want to donate,

601
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Speaker 1: you guess what, Now You've got a community center in

602
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Speaker 1: the black community. Because that's what I've been in the

603
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: black community for sixteen years, and I couldn't get them

604
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: to donate. So my thing is, I want to focus

605
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: on what's best for us. How can we uplift our

606
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: communities and if somebody want to help us, do it

607
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: while other people on the sidelines, hey you shouldn't need this,

608
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: you should have did that. All I'm gonna be going

609
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: to be in the community, getting to work, showing these

610
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: people how to start businesses, showing them how to take

611
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Speaker 1: Just like you said, you started your forebrointly business on

612
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: your own. You didn't have no help. That was a

613
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: skill and saying hey, I was a three time to

614
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: convict itself with nobody to give you a job. I

615
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: couldn't even get wealthair, I couldn't get secutionate, I couldn't

616
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Speaker 1: get another and I had four babies on my hill

617
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Speaker 1: with the father in prison serving life, which that means

618
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: no child support. You don't get a seen or die.

619
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Speaker 1: So built mine straight out of the mud as well.

620
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Speaker 1: But I understood that I had God given gift and

621
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Speaker 1: I was able to take that God given gift the

622
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Speaker 1: talent and turn it into a business. This is what

623
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Speaker 1: our community needs. They need to be financially free. I'll

624
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: want free until I've panged financially free. And we just

625
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: stopped beef it over me being mad because they supported

626
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Speaker 1: Joe Bye. And when I'm gonna need a job of

627
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Speaker 1: mask incarceration, I'm sitting up here and fighting to get

628
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: these folks out of jail. Y'all gonna go vot the

629
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Speaker 1: job by and come out and was they put them

630
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Speaker 1: in their fire? I don't know that I hain't be

631
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: setting up here beefing with my people in this community

632
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: about who they support or who wants support when we

633
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: got work to be up because while we beef it,

634
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: we it's no room to help the people. And that's real,

635
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: you know. I was talking back that this morning. At

636
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: some point, ego has to be set aside at some

637
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: point because if it's more about who you're supporting, and again,

638
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: and I want to say this to be clear, I've

639
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: said this also. I think Sender to turn a strong

640
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: and the progressive movement. I think killing Mike's strong and

641
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: the progressive movement without being attached to Bernie Sanders. So

642
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Speaker 1: that's what I want to be clear. It's not even

643
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Speaker 1: just you. I think all of us, and especially those

644
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Speaker 1: that are in the political space, you know, running for office,

645
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Speaker 1: are strong standing on their own. I think people will

646
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Speaker 1: follow your message. People follow killing Mike's messages, Sender turns message,

647
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Speaker 1: and even people that support Biden as strong leaders based

648
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Speaker 1: on what they believe. So so says that I grew

649
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Speaker 1: with you. If I run Congress again, maybe you're so

650
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Speaker 1: to be extrictly be or being that, And I do

651
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Speaker 1: believe that that could have hurt sometimes, this could have

652
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Speaker 1: hurt the campaign. Because for people feeling I get that right.

653
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Speaker 1: But for me, I wanted to run it honestly, in

654
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: and truth. I wanted to tell people this is what

655
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Speaker 1: you get. I didn't want to be fake. I didn't

656
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Speaker 1: want to make him think, oh, vote for me, I'm

657
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Speaker 1: this person they did, You're gonna find out or I'm

658
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: sold in with trum. I wanted you all to know

659
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: and to be that my relationship with Trump and House

660
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Speaker 1: wann use that relationship to make things better. I just

661
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: didn't want to be saying about it. But if you

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Speaker 1: decided to run again in a couple of years, it

663
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Speaker 1: will probably be as an independent, probably so as here

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Speaker 1: this stuff with the election from the governor being all out,

665
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Speaker 1: one thing that I realized, if he want finished right,

666
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Speaker 1: everything is on bull side. And if I do run again,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking you. I'm taking what you said until the

668
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Speaker 1: seneration says that it will probably be as an independent

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Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, because then people will be forced to

670
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Speaker 1: have to deal with the issue. See the moment you

671
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: take the partisan out of it, you gotta deal with

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Speaker 1: the issue. Because I've always said, I've said it on Fox,

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Speaker 1: I've said in liberal spaces, Democrats don't talk enough about

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Speaker 1: black business ownership. They don't talk enough about getting all

675
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Speaker 1: all money. They don't talk enough about and as you know,

676
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Speaker 1: especially being a black woman, truly black women, you wanna

677
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: talk about supporting black women. Give them access to capital

678
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Speaker 1: so that they don't have to be in bad relationships,

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Speaker 1: so they don't have to deal with bullshit from the street,

680
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: so they don't have to be with that ball and

681
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: with that because that's all. They don't have to feel

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00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: like they got an abortion. Even me, I tell I mean,

683
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Speaker 1: I'm very transparent. Every man I was ever with was

684
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: a hustler period, So when you look at that, and

685
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: why was I with him? Because of the access to

686
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: the money, the capital, not having a growing up. So

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Speaker 1: those are real issues that I think we can talk about,

688
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: and I think we can talk about in the black

689
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: community and how we move this forward because the Democrat

690
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: policies do not talk about black business. They just don't.

691
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Speaker 1: But I know that the majority of the things that

692
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Speaker 1: I line up with lean more left. But I'm independent

693
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Speaker 1: and I'm still open to having that conversation, you know,

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Speaker 1: about how we can still talk about business, how we

695
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: can talk about access, because that's really everything that we

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Speaker 1: support that every wrapper for damn sure, I say all

697
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Speaker 1: the time rappers are concerned. Did you support the Second Amendment?

698
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Speaker 1: You always talking about your money right around and I

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Speaker 1: get it his mind, I get it. Which that's definitely

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Speaker 1: a conservat You don't want to pay no taxes? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? You are you? Everything that you

702
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: talk about is conservative, I mean real talk other than liberal.

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Speaker 1: And you don't leaning things. And I don't think you know.

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Speaker 1: I at um Bishop talbert On and he you know,

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Speaker 1: he had presents a very good argument for conservatives and

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Speaker 1: and abortion, and that's just not a I'm a mom,

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Speaker 1: you know. I saw you on Reverence cover you asked,

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Speaker 1: angew where your mom. I thought that was a good

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Speaker 1: way to add I'm a mama, you know what I mean.

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00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: So we can have this as two women. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm pro choice, not because I don't want people

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Speaker 1: to not have their babies. I just don't. It's not

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Speaker 1: a main state issue that I feel I need to

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Speaker 1: be out there, you know, pushing or arguing with people

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Speaker 1: about why they should or should not be But I

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Speaker 1: agree completely with you were saying that when people have

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Speaker 1: the resources that they need, people will want to have

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Speaker 1: their children. I agree with that because I've been in

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00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: that situation myself, so but it's not It's not an

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Speaker 1: issue for me that drives my conversation every day, but

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00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: I do think people should have that conversation. Mass incarceration

722
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: drives the majority of my conversations racial justice and that

723
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: thing about it. We all have our fights and what's

724
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: there us and once we all come together, then we

725
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: attack each one of those issues. I think for me

726
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: want to comes the issue of abortune. It's the racism

727
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Speaker 1: behind it, the fact that he was created to basically

728
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Speaker 1: eradicate the black race. And that's why my aois and

729
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: why is at the beginning to my flight because when

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Speaker 1: they say black lives matter, where you can't have a

731
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Speaker 1: black lives unless you get here through them, right if

732
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Speaker 1: they execute you in the room, you won't have a

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Speaker 1: black live. So I just want to turn right on

734
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Speaker 1: to get us to begin to have that conversation because,

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00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: like you said, that's something we haven't pay attention to

736
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Speaker 1: and it hasn't been on the forefront of our protests

737
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: or our decision making or anything like that. But the

738
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Speaker 1: thing about it is is that you know we have

739
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Speaker 1: women that have guy from abortion We've got people that

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Speaker 1: come back fifteen twenty years dealing with depression because they

741
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: realized that it was a child. I mean, it should

742
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: telling the truth and combatting this agenda when they're pushing

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Speaker 1: abortions health care. We know it ain't healthy to be

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00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: killing my baby. Abortion they healthy. I just can't deal

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00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: with the lie that they're given to our youth. And

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00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: the reason why it's important to me is because now

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00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: I have ours that are at child birth and stage

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00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: and feelings though you know they get pregnant, oh will

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Speaker 1: it's my right and I don't want the baby. I

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Speaker 1: kill the baby. Where here I am the world mom

751
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: who want to wear a child and saying baby, wait

752
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: a minute, that's my grand baby. Let let my grand

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Speaker 1: baby live. So me, I don't want to vote for

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00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: my life and mine to be exterminatd But again, this

755
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: is where we still have that difference of the thing,

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00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: and we have that conversation, and we could talk about

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00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: what's important, why we need to bring it up again,

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00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: how can we prevent because I knows I don't have

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Speaker 1: the power to overturn abortion, but if a young woman

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Speaker 1: comes to me that pregnant, I'm not gonna take hard

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00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: at an abortution. I'm gonna try to sit around and

762
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: short some type of life still where she could ask

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Speaker 1: her baby and be able to afford and have that child.

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Speaker 1: So those are some of the things that I would

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Speaker 1: like to do for our community. I believe that if

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Speaker 1: we can focus on financial literacy, showing people how to

767
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: get money where they're not depending on the government, and

768
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: we'll see a big time around and we started valuing

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00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: life again and trying to keep our families together and

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Speaker 1: our restructure our child before system. We got this culture

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00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: right now, the minute you get pregnant or you're catching

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00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: with another woman or something, we break up, like all

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00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: of our families are split up. You know when we're

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00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: gonna start pushing keeping our families together. And I just

775
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: think that we gotta start getting back to things that

776
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: made comments sense, getting back to things that bring about

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00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: good morals, good character, honesty, not pushing an agenda. That

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00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: whole is life. I ain't hit him nobody down right.

779
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: I did what I had to do. I've been there,

780
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: done that. But the people that we see now encouraging

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00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: our young women to be part of taking that lifestyle,

782
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: they're not telling them about you know, how every time

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Speaker 1: you sleep with the man, you give the piece of

784
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: your soul away. How that type of lifestyle can lead

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00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: the drugs and don't wanted pregnancy and disease and stuff.

786
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: We just got to get back to telling the truth

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00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: and won't for us. And I'm to blood people think that, um,

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00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm putting us down. I'm really not. I just want

789
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: to bring attention to the things that we're not paying

790
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: attention to it figure out what we can do to

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00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: make things better for us, besides pointing to feed at

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00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: somebody else. And would you also say that just because

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00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: you're bringing attention to those issues, meaning the harm that

794
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: we do among ourselves, it also doesn't mean you don't

795
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: recognize white supremacy or racism or so speak to them

796
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: because because they'll hear everything you say at a moment ago,

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00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: but not also realize that I can understand how we

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00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: hurt ourselves, but you do understand that it is a

799
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: system out there that has been designed to bring down

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Speaker 1: black people. So speak to that a little bit. I

801
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: definitely believe a systemic racism is something that I find against.

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00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: I know that when the Constitution and these things were created,

803
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: they didn't really have us in mind, we weren't considered

804
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: to be equal for something that we need to fight.

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00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: But then I'm also a realist, right, and I understand

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00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: that it's far for forty three years of living. When

807
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Speaker 1: we talk about someone that I know dearly or someone

808
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: around me and my c their life, I just don't

809
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: know any white person's killed somebody black, or somebody that

810
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: I care about personally. Now, I've read the stories, and

811
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: I've seen the stories on the news. But then when

812
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 1: it comes to our inner city neighborhoods, when I'm talking

813
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: about what I'm dealing with every single day, when I

814
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: grow all around with our witness I know what I'm witnessed,

815
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: and so when I hear what people say and I

816
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: compare that to my life experimence, then I understand that

817
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: there's work that needs to be done on both sides.

818
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna be the one to say, oh,

819
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: we need to deal with white people. We need to

820
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: deal with white people, when I know years ago my

821
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Speaker 1: six year old this was shot in the head by

822
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Speaker 1: somebody that looked just like me. I know they's given today.

823
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Just last week, my seventy year old these was shot

824
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Speaker 1: at back twice with a K four seven by somebody

825
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: that looked just like me. What I'm saying is how

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Speaker 1: long when we say Black lives matter, shouldn't be all

827
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: about black lives matter? And why is it only when

828
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: a white person is involved. We gotta value black life

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Speaker 1: at all. So my experience versus what we're seeing on TV,

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Speaker 1: what we're hearing, my experience versus someone else's experience, No,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't take away from what that person experienced, but

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Speaker 1: my own experience is kind of overridinging. And I just

833
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: see that we gotta serve bringing together a real brotherhood

834
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Speaker 1: and a silver joyd that saves our babies, that protects

835
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Speaker 1: our children, that prochects our families, that protects our women,

836
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Speaker 1: and I want our families together, and that's on the

837
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: way back. I just wanted to continue to be able

838
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Speaker 1: to go bro successfully. And I would say that I

839
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: think that, like you said, just like in the family,

840
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: you've got different aunties pushing different different lines, So you're

841
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: gonna focus more on one than you do with the

842
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: other without erasing you know what it is you're doing.

843
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: My personal experiences, everything that you talked about, from my

844
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: man being shocked, from going to prison, from whatever. When

845
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: I talk about mass incarceration, I'm not talking about people

846
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: not being convicted for their crimes. What I'm talking about

847
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: is the over sentencing of it all. You know, first

848
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: time non vital offenders, they get locked up, you know,

849
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: for seventeen eighteen years for a crime that really maybe

850
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: it was only worth of five or seven years sentence,

851
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: because that's what's closest to me. But I also will

852
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: say when I thought the Oklahoma City Horsecloth rape case

853
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: of a white man raping black women, that one of

854
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: those women were my was my cousin. So the issue

855
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: with police brutality is the power that they have and

856
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: the ability to get away with the ship. That's what

857
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: the issue is. It's not for me. It's not that

858
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm ignoring what's happening in the hood. What I'm saying

859
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: is for Officer Hollsecloth to be able to pull over

860
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: thirteen black women and threatening them we're going to prison.

861
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: When Oklahoma sends more women to prison than anywhere in

862
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: the world, that was a real threat. And threatening those

863
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: women and making those women have sexual favors to get

864
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: out of prison, that is a real issue. And he

865
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: was able. He's not didn't get away with it now,

866
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: but he was able to get away with it for

867
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: so very long, and now that those women are still

868
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: not even believed import something that I was saying right

869
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: alongside you with the fight, right, I'm not saying that

870
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: that's not important. I will stand up and I will

871
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: fight that. But I'm also a woman that's been raped

872
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: by somebody in the enter telling industry, a well known

873
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: person here in Atlanta, Georgia's arrest rays picture. All of

874
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: that stuff was in the back of my book. Black

875
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: people didn't care nothing about that because he was somebody

876
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: in the inn. And so again we're talking about these experiences.

877
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm saying one experience don't deserve no

878
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: less attention than other. We talked about right that. Okay,

879
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: black people were supposed to have each other back and

880
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: we're supposed to look out for each other. So to me,

881
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: when a black person is killed by another black person,

882
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: it hurts me more then when it happens at the

883
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: end of a white person, because there's this brotherhood and

884
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: his sisterhood that we're supposed to have. You supposed to

885
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: have my back, I'm supposed to have your back. Like

886
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: when we talk about oppression black people for him saying

887
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna in her because she support that hurt me.

888
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: Why why would you support me whether you're doing nothing

889
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: to hurt you are you're doing nothing to her else

890
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: we made agree, but I'm not doing me thing hurt

891
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: so all. We can't hold our own people that. We

892
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: can't suppress our old people. We can put out a

893
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: foot on the neck of our old people. So what

894
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying is we got to stop saying who is

895
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: me and they for doing it? When we're trying to

896
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: do the same things to each other, we're pretty much

897
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. I think there's accountability on both sides.

898
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: We can hold this system accountable. We can hold ourselves accountable.

899
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: Some people are gonna spend more time on one issue

900
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: than the other, um they all equally deserve the same attention.

901
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: And what I hope people get from this interviews we

902
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: wrap up is we talked here now for thirty something minutes,

903
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: and spent very little time talking about Trump, you know,

904
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: and very little time talking about because it's not about

905
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear your position, Angela, And I think

906
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: when people say what you know, I don't want to

907
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: interview Angela because you know she's sport Trump or I

908
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: don't want to give it because you go Trump, what

909
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: interview Angela about Angela? I mean, let's let's just see

910
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: what that's about, you know what I mean, like, let's

911
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: just have that conversation. I've tried to be very intentional

912
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: every other show conservative liberal, conservative, liberal, conservative liberal for

913
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: a reason. I think it's important that you hear other

914
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: opinions and leave the politics out of it. You know, Uh,

915
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: passing Scott did do a lot of talking about Trump,

916
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: but that's past Scott. But yeah, that's and hey, hey

917
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: right and so. But you know, but you know how

918
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: many people listen to that interview and had no idea.

919
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: I told people, I said, Pastor Scott more hood than

920
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: four or five Democrats liberal cornballs put together. He the

921
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: streets for real, for real. So what I'm just hoping

922
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: Angela is one thing people heard, were able to hear

923
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: us have this conversation instead of waiting on this big

924
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: if they want to see the fighting, you should have

925
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: watched Tyson and whatever lad or Nate get knocked out,

926
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: because I don't think you're gonna get knocked out. And

927
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm damn so not get knocked out. So that was

928
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: not knock each other out. That's right Black women to

929
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: come together. Listen, we don't have to agree on everything,

930
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: and we're not on It's just like your sister or

931
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: your mama. You're not gree on everything with them. You're

932
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: not gonna agree on everything with your spouts. You're not

933
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: going to agree on everything with your children. Or what

934
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: we do is find out what we do agree on,

935
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: how we can come together and what we can do

936
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: to hell the community. Like you said, he said, Angela,

937
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm pro short, but I agree with what you. Let's

938
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: get some community siders together. That teachings one of the

939
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: financial literacy, So don't I can go that like me

940
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: that way. You don't have to me pro life, but

941
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: help me create a life down for these women so

942
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: they feel like they need to. That's what we can

943
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: want together on. This is the main thing I want

944
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: people to get from you and why I wanted to

945
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: have this. You can have those conversations with those with

946
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: those women and touch them in a way that other

947
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: people will never be because you've been in that situation.

948
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: And I just think political parties and politicians and not

949
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: just Trump. This goes for Biden too. I tell people

950
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: who do that with Biden to anytime we start putting

951
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: a politician in a political party in black folks business,

952
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: somebody is cutting off that message. I just believe that.

953
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: And that's not just for you, that that's across the board.

954
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: Killer Mike as strong as hell. I'd rather him not

955
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: be with Bernie. I mean, but I just do. I

956
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: think I think he's gonna be able to tell. I

957
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: think some the turner can touch. I think it's certain

958
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: people who push on the Biden side, uh, that that

959
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: can touch certain demographics that even I maybe I can't.

960
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: The thing is, who's pushing for black people at the

961
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: end of the day, And now that we got through

962
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty and we proceed on these next

963
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: four years, let's see Who're really gonna push the line

964
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: for black people. That's what I'm looking for, you know,

965
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: just an opportunity to push a line. Hey, if you

966
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: can talk, if you can, if you can stop women,

967
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: uh from from a boarding the babies, and that's the life.

968
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: You say, Hey, I'm which if you if I can,

969
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: I talk about mass incarceration like I've been locked up.

970
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: But that's because I didn't get a felony. It wasn't

971
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: because I didn't do nothing. It was because I didn't

972
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: get caught. So I pushed that line, you know what

973
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the same way I talked about police brutality.

974
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: I noted the closest person to me was shot last

975
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: year in paralyzed by somebody black. Like I get that,

976
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, and this is somebody

977
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: that was locked up under the ninety four Crime Bill.

978
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 1: So when I look at what hurt him worse mass incarceration,

979
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: being locked up, you know for fifteen sixt in years

980
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: through the ninety four Crime Bill, are coming home and

981
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: being shot and paralyzed by black man. Both of them

982
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: hurt him, but was affecting him for the rest of

983
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: his life right now, something that happened inside our own community.

984
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: And so both of those things have to be addressed.

985
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: And one can't be ignored. Where we put all the

986
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: attention on one, we have to equally put it, you know,

987
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: on on both of those things in our community. So

988
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm just glad you came on the show a different voice,

989
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: a different side, and for people, most importantly to see

990
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: that this was not about me and you dragging each

991
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: other and fighting each other and and going back and

992
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: forth people to see that we can have real adult

993
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: conversations as grown women. And that's what I'm looking and doing.

994
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: That's what I want. Like, I hate the fact that

995
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: people just want to automatically just have his hate geared

996
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: towards me because they see that I'm affiliated with Trump,

997
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: or Trump gave me a full part, or I was

998
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: pushing his policies and his initiatives. What you know, I

999
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: ran for Compress because I felt like I could do

1000
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: more for the community. And I mean, since that hasn't happened,

1001
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: my takeaway from this is that I don't have to

1002
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: be in Congress to do things for our community. So

1003
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking to, you know, the coalition of black leaders,

1004
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: people that want to do what's right for our community.

1005
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: We don't necessarily need the government. They're trying to make

1006
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: us believe that we do, but we don't. Reality is

1007
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: that I've been doing this work sixteen years prior to

1008
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: Reality is that you are walking living chestimony yourself, and

1009
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: just from listening to you today, and if we can

1010
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: take you know, our struggles, what we learned from what

1011
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: we created, you gotta stay to come get it bringing

1012
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: the people over half of them, you know, returning citizens.

1013
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: That's real skill. The published company. You know what I'm saying.

1014
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: I turned over three hundred people in office from the organization,

1015
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: got four dollars jobs created for returning citizens when the

1016
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: partnership through a laxes. These are things that we've done

1017
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: independently without the help of the government. Imagine what we

1018
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: could do if we come together. Need you killing like

1019
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: all of these other movements and voices out here in

1020
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: the movement that's really made and stride, Where can we

1021
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: sit up six of the side. Where can we sit

1022
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: and hey to the side. When can we come down

1023
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: to the table and say, okay, angie, we know where

1024
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: you're at with the pro life We get that we

1025
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: need be even with you. Let's just go in and

1026
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: begin building these centers where we get help women with

1027
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: the children. Criminal justice. Before I hear y'all, I hear

1028
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: what y'all saying about the police, know it ain't right.

1029
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: That's going to build up our coalition and the next

1030
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: leaders who were want this to where that getting change

1031
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: these laws, because that's what's important. We'll be fighting this

1032
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: forever if the laws don't change. But we just gotta

1033
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: come together as a collective, as a people and have

1034
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: people everywhere that they need to be owns. Don't need

1035
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: to be in the same I ain't no sinse and

1036
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 1: me sitting and y'all see host of the show said,

1037
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: I need to be over here doing what I'm doing,

1038
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: what you're doing, what your doing my son over there,

1039
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: So read goes over here. You understand what comes from

1040
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: to meek us over there, to mill us over that way.

1041
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, we all out here feeling like

1042
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: over here we all want the same thing. We're going

1043
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: about it a different way. We got here too, riss

1044
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: putting in the world too, and we all different voices.

1045
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: We know rist thing you talked about, the vaccines. We

1046
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: know y'all criminal justice before I am too. You know

1047
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 1: my friend to me today, police brutality me, I'm pro life.

1048
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: All these are for the best, what's best for the

1049
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: black community. You just gotta sit down to the table, man,

1050
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: stop fighting, put the differences the side, come together really

1051
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: playing the word. We're gonna be get to see it.

1052
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: That's absolutely right. But just me on the show be

1053
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: heard not attacking me. I know they thought he was

1054
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: gonna be beat like having to I t they might

1055
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: not always agree, but they don't take care of that's right.

1056
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: When it comes to light mess. Guess what they're gonna

1057
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: come together. Both of my teas gonna jump on you

1058
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: know about those shooters to work man, take care of

1059
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: our community. And it's just made our blessing to be

1060
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: on with you today. I appreciate it to you. You

1061
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: hit it right on the nail. The real gonna show.

1062
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: You really exposed a whole lot of ship, and you know,

1063
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: people donna see as we continue to move forward, if

1064
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: you're for black people, it's gonna show because you're gonna

1065
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: keep on pushing this ship. Passed, Trump passed, Biden passed,

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Speaker 1: the next ten white presidents. You're still gonna be pushing

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Speaker 1: for black people. And that's just what it is. So

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Speaker 1: I get the criticism on both sides. So I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you stopping by. I know people gonna love this interview,

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Speaker 1: will get criticism. Somebody's still gonna want us to be

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Speaker 1: but it just ain't happening. I'm glad, like we say

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Speaker 1: in the hood, I'm glad to see you rather than

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Speaker 1: view you. And that's real because the game could have

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Speaker 1: took you out and it could have took me out

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Speaker 1: until I tell people to tell you've been faced with

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Speaker 1: those types of obstacles. What ain't talking about drag on

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Speaker 1: the internet, like somebody really putting the gun to my head.

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Speaker 1: I don't have talked myself. You ain't have. I tell

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Speaker 1: people if you if you've really this internet ship get

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Speaker 1: to you, you haven't either been through enough are you

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Speaker 1: haven't recovered through the pain you've been through one of

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Speaker 1: the two. You haven't had enough pain because you think

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Speaker 1: this is really beefing, or you still got trauma from

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Speaker 1: the pain you've been through one or the other. Because

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Speaker 1: anytime you ain't had a gun to your head and

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Speaker 1: somebody beat your ass, you don't have to fight somebody

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Speaker 1: off of you. That's where I come from. So sitting

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Speaker 1: up somebody in some Instagram inbox, let him know right now,

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Speaker 1: that's right. I'm a real housewife. Read and that'll tell

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Speaker 1: your story. I appreciate it so much. Appreciate you so much.

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Speaker 1: Where can they find you before we get out of here,

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Speaker 1: You guys find me on Instagram? The Angel sing on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: the saying I'm also a parlor, the Angel saying, let's connect.

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Speaker 1: Everybody hit me up, I respond, I'm not a person

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Speaker 1: that eye who are somewhere. I want to connect with

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Speaker 1: the community, those of you that really want to fight,

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Speaker 1: really want to do what's rights, begin to work on

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Speaker 1: this call. This year, We're gonna need work. I heard that.

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Speaker 1: I'll write you. Y'all been listening to straight Shot No

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Speaker 1: Chaser with Angela stand King. Thank you so much for listening.

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