1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from house 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: I am your host, Jonathan Strickland joining me in my 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: hotel room. Is my esteemed guest co host Ben Oh. Yes, 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. You know that 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: first David came out a little bit weird. Hey ladies 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Ben Bullen and I want to say, Jonathan, Uh, 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: here we are with our super producer Dylan, who's also 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: in my hotel room. Yes, and we're in Las Vegas, 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: l Las Vegas, Nevada. Last if I sound weird, there's 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons for that. One. We are recording 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: this using law of microphones and on our normal studio 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: microphones too. I've been talking all day, so my voice 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: is starting to get a little uh weak. I was 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: a crokey, little lower, little, a little stronger. Yeah it 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: sounds like that, Yeah, exactly. Is your mother's name Martha. 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: And then also we're in a hotel room obviously not 18 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: a studio, so it's gonna have a totally different sound 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: to it. But we wanted to record this because we 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: are actually here in Las Vegas. We are attending ce 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: s C s of course, formerly known as the Consumer 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Electronics Show, but technically it's just CEES now. We are 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: doing this as a team effort, although we kind of 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: have two production teams exploring c E s uh and 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: then you are one of those teams. I'm on the other. 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: And one other thing I should point out, this is 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: my ninth c Yeah, congratulations. Do we get a sound game? Rooms? 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: Too bad? You don't have your little air horn app 29 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: do yes? Go ahead, pull up vamp Yes, Yes, ladies 30 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: and gentlemen. It is so important that I've been here 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: nine years, so important in fact, that my badge has 32 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: a little white ribbon on it that says five plus 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: years on it. So I can I can feel. I 34 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: don't know if it's superior the right word. Hit it, Ben, 35 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: hit it. Let's celebrate perfect then perfect. We're also a 36 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: little loopy, okay, So yeah, Las Vegas. For those who 37 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: are not in the United States, Las Vegas is in 38 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: the Pacific time zone. We are from Atlanta, Georgia, which 39 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: is in the Eastern time zone. That's three hours ahead 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: of Las Vegas. So while it is currently in the 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: PM in Las Vegas, it's a little after midnight back home, 42 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: so we're a little loopy. We're exhausted. We've had a 43 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: long day on the show floor today as we're recording, 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: this was the first day the show floor itself was open, 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: although we've been in Las Vegas a few days. Because 46 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: ce S is always preceded by a couple of press 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: days where they have special events for the press, they 48 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: have press conferences. Now, Ben, as a first time attendee 49 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: of c e S, I want to hear or what 50 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: your reactions perceptions that sort of thing have been, because 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: I've done this enough times now where it doesn't like 52 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't I don't view it through the eyes of 53 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: someone who's never been here before. Man oh, Jonathan Strickland, 54 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, sensory overload. I've only been to Las 55 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Vegas once before my entire life, and it was earlier 56 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: in twos sixteen. The bright lights alone, right, the seizure 57 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: inviting lights and also decor yes yes understated is what 58 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: insult that has never been applied to laws veges. But 59 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: what one thing that was that was amazing is uh, 60 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: the entire the entirety of technology laid out, So for 61 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: any fans of science fiction listening to tech stuff, you 62 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: know you're familiar with episodes Jonathan's done on vaporware for instance, Right, 63 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: and the next big, big idea that has always uh 64 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: sort of like that old Alice in Wonderland joke, Jam yesterday, 65 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: jam tomorrow, jam today. Yeah, nailed it. And so what 66 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: we're what we're seeing here full disclosure. I am here 67 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: and and our team is here entirely to focus on 68 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: the future of automotive technology. But when you invited us 69 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: to come with you to see us seen, to see 70 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: the actual experience and listeners, just so you know, you 71 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: can check out Jonathan's earlier episodes on CS where and 72 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: and I I half wish that you could hear and 73 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: am half thankful that you will never hear Jonathan Strickland 74 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: on his legendary day back in the office after es 75 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: those haunted eyes my friends, and there's thousand yards stare. Yeah. 76 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: So so the first, uh, the first thing I would 77 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: say was that the first event we went to was 78 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: see Us unveiled, and c S unveiled is your longtime 79 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: listeners are familiar with It's uh, it's a press only event, right, 80 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: so there are no other like the only people who 81 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: are there are exhibitors, who have been invited to participate 82 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: in cees unveiled and the press covering it. And then 83 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: you know people of the actual venue who are bringing 84 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: in copious amounts of shrimp cocktail right right, right right, 85 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: which you warned me against. Yeah, well no, no, I 86 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: warned myself against. I'm allergic to shrimps, ray shotguns. Three, 87 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: because what is life if not living? So what astounded 88 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: me there was that there were this panopoly of various 89 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: wildly different technological devices, uh, some of some of which 90 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: were relatively focused on a single idea, like a single 91 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: call in response, like it was it was an implementation 92 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: of a very identifiable concept. Yeah, exactly, So, like you 93 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: look at the thing, and even if the thing itself 94 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: doesn't immediately tell you what it does, a glance at 95 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: its name or a quick look at the description like okay, 96 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 1: that I totally get what that's supposed to be. Yeah. 97 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: And then and then there were these other things which 98 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: were much more big picture, much more abstract, you know, ephemeral, 99 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: ephemeral and and do check out our our video of 100 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: of you Jonathan uh learning how to sleep vies smell. Yeah, 101 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so and so there 102 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: were all these there were. I think what struck me 103 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: was the sheer varieties not the right word, the sheer 104 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: altitude of stuff. Right. And then there's no there's no 105 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: rhyme or reason to it. Right, It's not like they're 106 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: it's not like CS Unveiled is divided up into zones. Right, 107 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: you don't have here are three different drone manufacturers, and 108 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: we're just gonna put them all together because those are 109 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: all that. You know, people who want to see drones 110 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: all go there. No, they might be anywhere in that room. 111 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: And uh so they might have a drone manufacturer right 112 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: next to a company that makes products specifically for infants, 113 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: um really for their parents, because infants have notoriously terrible 114 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: buying habits. And then you might have another one next 115 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: to that that's an automotive like aftermarket stereo system. There's 116 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: no real logic to the layout. You you absolutely have 117 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: to go aisle by aisle in this room to see 118 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: all the stuff, or else you might miss something important 119 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: booth by booth, and and and it's really table by 120 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: table because it's not. We warned you the of us 121 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: who have been here before that that CES Unveiled is 122 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: not what the rest of ce s looks right, And 123 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was so loud and Jonathan 124 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: you you were, you were so um it was like 125 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: it was my first day on the force or something. 126 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: Listen to your rookie, right, We're gonna come at you 127 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: from all sides. Did you stick with me? And you'll 128 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: you'll get through the day, right, right? And I and uh, 129 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: you said, this is just a taste, And I was 130 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: already so now you I thought I wasn't going to 131 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: get across the border. You remember that, Yeah, and uh? 132 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Wrong story short, not to be too Nabokov about it, 133 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: but I had this, uh, I had this mismatched badge 134 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: that had imposter syndrome. Alright, so let's tell this story 135 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: because I think it is interesting. It's okay, it's just 136 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: a minor, little little thing that happened. But um, anyone 137 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: who's ever had to work with online forums, you know, 138 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: there can sometimes be little oversights, like there could be 139 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: some sort of automated UH code that doesn't always check 140 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: all the right boxes, and if a box goes unchecked, unfortunately, 141 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: the end result is that you get the wrong thing. 142 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: Ben and I, out of the group of eight people 143 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: who came here, from how Stuff Works were the victims 144 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: of this cruel arrangement where when we went to retrieve 145 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: our badges, we were designated as industry attendees. Now now 146 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: c e S has different categories of badges, right, you 147 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: have media, which that's the press. You have exhibition press, 148 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: which means your exhibitor press, I think is what they 149 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: call it. Exhibitor press means that you are you also 150 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: have at presence on the show floor and you get 151 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: access early access to the show floor because of that. 152 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: So people who have exhibitor press badges, they can go 153 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: to the show floor even when it's not technically open 154 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: to the to the rest of the attendees, it's not 155 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: open to the public at all. Then you have like 156 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: other like you know, industry analysts or exhibitor badges, buyer 157 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: government yea. So we both had industry attendee, which is 158 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: the most vague of all the categories. And we went 159 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: to the casino where they have the press day, which 160 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: is well really the convention center, which is at Mandalaid Bay. 161 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: So we go to Mandalais Bay and before we even 162 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: try to get in line, we had at least the 163 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: sense to ask the rest of our team has media badges, 164 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: we have these industry attendee badges. Are we gonna have 165 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: a problem And they said, yes, you are, go over 166 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: here and get in line for people who are having issues. 167 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: And we got to the front of line sure enough. 168 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: Very nice lady who was who was sitting there said 169 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: did you have to pick up your badges at the airport? 170 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: And we're like yes, and she's like yeah. So apparently 171 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: we were not the first happened to you as a 172 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: veteran got through. It was weird because apparently with mine 173 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: it was just a simple matter of checking that box 174 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: or un checking it or whatever it was. But Ben, 175 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: with you, the system just did not want to make 176 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: you press for a really long time, I know, in 177 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: the first year. But you know what, it was worth it. 178 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: It was worth it to get in there. And on 179 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: our second day, and we're recording this, by the way, 180 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: before our final day, so we're this is our third 181 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: day as we're recording, yeah, yeah, And the second day 182 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: was still not officially open, and there were these amazing 183 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: press conferences, some of which were controversial, which we looked 184 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: at in a live stream. And today was our first 185 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: day on the show floor and we we kind of 186 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: like uh, divided and conquered, right, And so you were 187 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: running and gunning as fast and as hard as you could, 188 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: mainly focusing on North Hall because in c s there 189 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: are there are actually several centers where there are exhibits. 190 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: So the one that's probably best known as the Las 191 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Vegas Convention Center, which has more than like a million 192 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: square feet of exhibition space, uh, and that has three 193 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: halls of North Hall at Central Hall and a South hall. 194 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: The North Hall is where almost all the automotive technology 195 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: is located. And because you're the host of Car Stuff 196 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: and you're they're focusing on automation. Also, this is a 197 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: good time to mention there is a companion episode to 198 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: this episode right the episode we're recording right now, the 199 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Tech Stuff episode, we have a companion piece of Car Stuff, 200 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: which technically is already published and yet paradoxically we have 201 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: not recorded yet. This is just like Looper. Yeah, it's 202 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: just like that. It's just like that scene in Looper. 203 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: So if you haven't listened to Car Stuff, first of all, 204 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: shame on you go and subscribe to car Stuff right away. 205 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: It's not amazing show. Ben and Scott do a phenomenal job. 206 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: And um, but you'll be able to hear more about 207 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: the vehicle focused technology in that episode and I'm a 208 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: guest on that. Uh, So we're not going to focus 209 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: on that too much here. But when you walked into 210 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: that North Hall and you started to see how how 211 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: various companies had structured their booths in order to try 212 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: and draw people in, I mean, that's the whole purpose 213 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: of cees is pull pull people in so you can 214 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: convince them that your product is awesome. What was your 215 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: first kind of impression walking into the North Hall at 216 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Convention Center. Oh? Okay, So to set the scene, 217 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: we luckily, we luckily have some seasoned guides, so so 218 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: our crew members and uh and you, Jonathan have been 219 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: there before. So US US cubs and rookies are like 220 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: are pretty much at this point following the guide, and 221 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: we talked about how is like a scene in an 222 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: RPG video game where where the characters are shown the 223 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: different parts of the map and there's a lot of 224 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: fog of war as well. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah. And 225 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: so so we get there and we're out about ten 226 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: minutes from when the doors open, and there there's a 227 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: crowd of people congregating, and when I say congregating, I 228 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: mean easily what twenty yards behind us filled with people. Yeah. 229 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: So the way it works is that the doors are 230 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: the doors are technically open in the sense that they're 231 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: not shut, but no one is allowed to go in 232 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: unless they have that exhibitor press or they are an 233 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: exhibitor the hoi POLOI like media and all the other 234 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: folks who are not on officially exhibitors. The Yeah, we're 235 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: not allowed to go inside until the first day. It 236 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: starts at ten am. So we were probably I don't know, 237 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: maybe fifteen or twenty people back from the from where 238 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: the doors were at most right, and then more and 239 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: more gathered behind us as the time drew nigh for 240 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: them to allow us. And I was actually amazed at 241 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: how crowded North Hall got right away, because as whenever 242 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: I did see, yes, the old days before I was 243 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: covering stuff for Toyota, I say North Hall for the 244 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: second day, and uh, I always I always thought people 245 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: who were hitting South Hall at Central Hall the hardest 246 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: because there are a lot there's a lot more general 247 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: technology there. But this year, I mean there was a 248 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: lot of excitement around vehicles, so the first thing, so 249 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm very much like a cheap skate, right. So first 250 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: thing I see on the left, I see like some 251 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: bags and uh, I'm thinking, you know, we've got crew 252 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: with us, they've already got stuff. We might see some 253 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: This is my rationalization for grabbing two bags. And so 254 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: do these bags and walking and we know we have 255 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: to go to the left, and we're angling the entire time. 256 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: We're working as this hive mind unit. But it's hard 257 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: to pay attention to our unit. It's so easy to 258 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: get lost in a crowd of stuff, thing you care about. 259 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: And there's you know, there's a high performance autonomous car 260 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: to the right, you know what I mean. There's a 261 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: Faraday future beckoning in the distance. I see the neon glow. 262 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: There's a booming system lasting base. Yeah. So yeah, there's 263 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of demands on your attention that 264 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: are all simultaneously. It was, yeah, it was immediate sensory overload, 265 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: and we, uh, we saw that it was hitting. The 266 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: weird thing was if you walk in and you find 267 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: what do we call like an island where there's not 268 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: that river of people, and you turn and you see, uh, 269 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: you see people walking in probably about maybe five to 270 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: ten feet and then stopping and just sort of getting 271 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: divide and looking around. If I wasn't with a group 272 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: of people and at work, you would have been one 273 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: of those folks. Absolutely. I don't know how long it 274 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: would have stood there, And anyone who's been doing it 275 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: for a while, like you'll, you'll, you'll hear us start 276 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: to grouse about. Look, you can, you can, you can 277 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: step off to the side and gawk. I have places 278 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: I need to be. That's another thing. So many people 279 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: stop in the middle of the thing. Well, and here's ben. 280 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: When I started doing this, it was two thousand and eight, 281 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: and so the iPhone had only been out a year, 282 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: and um, and smartphones weren't that big a thing, right, 283 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: smartphones not not everyone had them yet. Sure, I mean 284 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people in ce s did, but not 285 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: everyone had. And you didn't have nearly the number of 286 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: apps or social media platforms that were easily accessible on 287 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: your right. So add to all the demands of an 288 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: unattentioned we just listed a second ago all the ones 289 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: that you're already carrying with you with your smartphone, and 290 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: you're essentially you're essentially suffering a d D. You are 291 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: like a d D personified, and some people are compelled 292 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: to whip out their smartphone and check it every couple 293 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: of feet, even if there's a multitude of people behind 294 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: them that's desperately trying to get to the other side 295 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: of the hall. Get that endorphin rush. I've got to 296 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: ask you, this is this is your ninth years, so on, 297 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: so on your on your ninth year, this is this 298 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: is to some degree, a lot of people would think 299 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: this is old hat. I disagree with that because we've 300 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: talked off air, and the thing is, while the maybe 301 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: the bureaucratic parts of it, the housekeeping parts of it, 302 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: might be old hat, what it means to what it 303 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: means to me is that you have a nose for 304 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: the things that stick out well. I can, because I've 305 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: been cutting it so long. I can see the things 306 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: that are brand new, or at least are are noticeable 307 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: enough this year to be called brand new, right that. 308 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: I usually say trendsit c e s have kind of 309 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: a three year arc before they become really well known. 310 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: First year is when you might only see one or 311 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: two examples of a particular type of technology or or 312 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: something that a particular type of technology is trying to do. 313 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: Like it may be that the technology itself can take 314 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: many different forms, but it's all being done for the 315 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: same purpose, right. Uh, So that first year you might 316 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: only see one or two examples. The second year and 317 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: they might be prototypes, they might not even be production models. 318 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: The second year you start seeing production models out of 319 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: a couple of niche companies. The third year you start 320 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: seeing the bigger companies developed their own version of that 321 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: niche market stuff, and then it becomes mainstream and or 322 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: the other flip side of it is, no one buys 323 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: the stuff and it just fades away. So a great 324 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: example of something that was uh that trickled in then 325 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: was omnipresent and now no one talks about it really 326 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: that much anymore. Is three D television. Three D TV 327 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: just didn't happen. I mean, there are like almost every 328 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: television that's sold today has a three D mode or 329 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: is three D compliant, But consumers just didn't jump on that. 330 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: They didn't care. They didn't want to have to have 331 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: an extra set of hardware in order that them to 332 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: watch their TV. So that was something that they the 333 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: industry pushed really hard for several years and then ultimately 334 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: it's a non talking point. It just doesn't come up. 335 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it maybe included in the specs for a device, 336 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not prominently advertised typically, right, Yeah, 337 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: there's it's not something that we hear. It's not it's 338 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: not something that we hear networks or currency creators talking 339 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: about more. But on the flip side, Uh, something else 340 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: that was just getting started when I started going to 341 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: ce S were consumer drones. You were seeing just a 342 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: few of those on the market, and the first ones 343 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: were just quad copters that didn't have any like they 344 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: might have a very basic camera on them, but it 345 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: was mostly too to allow you to do like some 346 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: fun like a r type stuff. Parrot drones were probably 347 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: the best example of that, early on, pretty expensive, and 348 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: now today there every everyone has a drone. Like it's crazy, 349 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: you you Intel has drones on display, Um, they're uh, 350 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: Polaroid has drones on display. It's weird because in order 351 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: to fly it, you first have to pick it up 352 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: and shake it really hard for like thirty seconds. It 353 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: develops the ability to fly and then sponsored hey, hey 354 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: he's a local, local guy right, well, local to Atlanta, 355 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: not in Las Vegas. Oh yeah, visit us if you 356 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: want to do it our home office. We'll walk over 357 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: to the Whole Foods where you see that guy at 358 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: the Olive our story. Oh really yeah, Wow, Well I 359 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: didn't interrupt them. I'm gonna have to go over the 360 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: Whole food is more for you going to I feel 361 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: like we didn't have anything in common. That's terrible because 362 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: there's an Olive b stro you have to pass. You must, 363 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: you must really just have a lot of issues walking 364 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: into that. Let's get a little hyper local. They're going 365 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: back to see Yes Yes, So you know, seeing those 366 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: trends and yeah, it means that when I see something 367 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: that that kind of is outside of that group, I 368 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: take notice. So here's an example. Last year when I 369 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: went to see S, I saw a few different devices 370 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: that were designed to encourage meditations and and and encourage 371 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: an ability to release stress. Uh. The argument being that 372 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: we're carrying more and more stress in our lives, we're 373 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: having harder time dealing with it. We've got a lot 374 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: of those demands on our attention would again adds to 375 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: that stress. So this year we're not just seeing meditation, 376 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of technology that's being marketed as 377 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: a means to help you go to sleep. Yeah, I 378 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: find this particularly interesting. Not that long ago, I did 379 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: an episode about a s MR, which is kind of 380 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: it's it's often sort of grouped into that category. It's 381 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: something that a lot of people watched to to relax 382 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: and often to all sleep. To write a s m R. 383 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: For anybody who has checked it out, there's an entire 384 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: culture online. Yeah. Well, like uh, partling Feathers and talking 385 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: like this. Yeah. Yeah, And I interviewed Heather feather who 386 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite a s MR artists. She 387 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: is a doll, a wonderful, wonderful person, and uh, she 388 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: did very well explaining the whole concept. Well, the rise 389 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: of a s MR shows that there is this incredible 390 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: demand for things that will help people relax and distress. 391 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: So we're seeing that now in the consumer marketplace because 392 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: there's an entire section at c e S devoted to 393 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: sleep tech. I haven't even seen it yet because that's 394 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: what I'm doing tomorrow, which is good because I'm gonna 395 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: need to sleep by that, right, you might not have 396 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: any any problems. I'm pretty much. I think after we 397 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: record the show that already published but hasn't recorded, yet 398 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm pretty much going to bed. So that's an example 399 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: of a trend that is is uh. I would say 400 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: in that second to third stage, right, probably more in 401 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: the second stage because I'm not seeing sleep tech being 402 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: adopted by the really big names yet, but it's definitely 403 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: in that second year part of the arc I was 404 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: talking about. Now, um we one of the things we 405 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: did early on, we did a live stream where where 406 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: we talked about some of the trends that we know, 407 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: is sleep tech being one of them. We talked about 408 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: another interesting end and this is kind of uh edging 409 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: over into the automotive part two because that's one of 410 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: the companies we mentioned. We talked about how two thousand 411 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: and sixteen we saw some tumultuous events and circumstances for 412 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: some high profile companies. We have to talk about this. 413 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: This is Texas. So so we've got this issue where 414 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: imagine that you are an executive with a prominent company, 415 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: whether it is one that's been around for ages or 416 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: it's one that's just made headlines because it's so audacious, 417 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: and then you have a rough year and then you 418 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: go to c S where you have to put on 419 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: your best face. Yeah, you're gonna you're you know, you're 420 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: gonna be hit by hard questions and yet you still 421 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: have to do this pr game. The two companies that 422 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: we thought really um encompass this that they embodied it 423 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: and they went through we went to two totally different approaches. Yeah, 424 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: Faraday Future, which is one of the most ambitious startups 425 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: I've ever heard of. I mean, it's a it's a 426 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: company that is trying to break into the automotive industry 427 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: building a car which is not just a car, but 428 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: a whole line of cars, which is, by the way, 429 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: the one of the most difficult things everyone can do 430 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: from scratch. I mean, the fact that Tesla was able 431 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: to do it is amazing. Well, yeah, and Tesla only 432 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: was able to do it, I would argue, because there 433 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: was a very it had the appearance of audacity, but 434 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: it came from the actions and bankrolls of PayPal, so 435 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: it didn't start from an angel investor, you know what 436 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean. And then we have another example which which 437 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: we uh we especially felt called to mind where we 438 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: were the plane over here. Yeah, so that would be Samsung. Obviously, 439 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: Samsung in twenty sixteen, especially in September and October, had 440 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible time because the Galaxy Notes seven famously 441 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: was having these issues where some people were having their 442 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: their handsets were bursting into flame, typically when being charged, 443 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: the battery was bursting into flame. And it was such 444 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: a hard, hard problem for Samsung. First, they issued a 445 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: an exchange program where they started exchange notes seven's. Uh, 446 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: they said that, you know, the actual percentage of those 447 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: that were affected was quite small. Sure, they wanted to 448 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: do an exchange program, but then some of the exchange 449 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: units reportedly were bursting into flame, and that's when Samsung 450 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: had to issue a worldwide recall. Uh. And last I 451 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: had heard there's still several hundred thousand out in the wild. 452 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and uh some of the phone service providers 453 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: are breaking notes. Yeah. In fact, uh, that was a 454 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: big deal where I think it was Verizon that said 455 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: they weren't going to do it, and then they said, okay, 456 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: we'll do it, but we won't do it till January 457 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: eight or something. It's like poison until update. Right. Yeah, 458 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: it's essentially to make sure the phone can't be a 459 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: phone anymore, and that way no one has a reason 460 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: to keep it around. And uh, so long story short, 461 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: this was a huge pr problem for Samsung. I mean, 462 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: it was an enormous issue, very damaging to the company's reputation. 463 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: And then they come out to c S and they 464 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: have a whole press conference that they have to hold. 465 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: They've got that time slot, and it's you paid a 466 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of money to be part of CS And so 467 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: then we've got them coming out and they start off 468 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: their press conference by acknowledging there was a problem, but 469 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: not apologizing for it. They essentially said, uh, we're looking 470 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: into it, or, as I would like to say, we 471 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: have top men looking at the top of men whose yeah, exactly, 472 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: so not not to cast dispersions on Sam. So I'm 473 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: sure they are investigating it. They obviously they have very 474 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: great motivation to find out what exactly was the problem. 475 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: But a lot of people felt that that perhaps was 476 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: not enough, that perhaps they should have come out so 477 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: far as to apologize for the the issue and the 478 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: way that was handled. But that did not happen, and 479 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: then they went ahead and had the rest of their 480 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: press conference. Faraday kind of the way they they addressed 481 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: their problem. Faraday's problems into A sixteen included a bunch 482 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: of executives left. They reportedly started having some financing issues 483 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: despite the billion dollar investment of various business people from 484 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: from Asia. But then, um, we we heard reports that 485 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: the construction on their production facility here in Las Vegas 486 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: where we are has halted and that they and that 487 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: people haven't been getting paid for a while. So uh, 488 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: they didn't acknowledge that at all as far as I 489 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: can tell. When they Yeah, they said they were still 490 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: planning on having their production model ready by which is 491 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: incredibly ambitious, like that old comics strip, the little two 492 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: panel comic strip that we see so often on the internet, 493 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: and the dog in the burning house right at the 494 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: table as sure himself. I'm just saying him because of 495 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: the hat. Uh, everything is fine. What we saw is 496 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: that not only did executive leave over sixteen, but two 497 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 1: left just a couple of weeks before c YES started. 498 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: So this was an interesting thing, you know, seeing seeing 499 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: these companies that had very public problems, Uh, and how 500 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: how would they handle it? And so you could argue 501 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: that Samsun, you know, if you felt like they owed 502 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: people an apology, you could argue that they fell short 503 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: on that, but at least they acknowledged it, which Paraday 504 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: as far as we could tell did not. Uh so 505 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: that was interesting. We've seen some some cool tech. You've 506 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: got a chance to walk into Central Hall for a 507 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: little bit. Oh yeah, I I went and checked out 508 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: a Samsung exhibit. Actually, this is great washer. The washer 509 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: that washes while you wash. It was the it was 510 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: the will it explode? And there's a timer. You get money. 511 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: Uh no, you don't get money. You get bend Bucks 512 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: And anyone who's interested in that please write to me. 513 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: And it's a wonder one exchange training so you can't 514 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: exchange you back. It is accepted in various locations throughout 515 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: my mom's house. Were negotiations for the kitchen. It's a 516 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: big win for us. So, uh, when to check out 517 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: some of the VR experiences because one of the big 518 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: questions that people have. So going back to the example 519 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: of three D television technology, there were some great startups 520 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: right that had this brilliant stuff, and then larger manufacturers 521 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: saw it, loved it. This is an opportunity, right and 522 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: spoke to broadcasting partners, content creators saw it, loved it. 523 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: This is an opportunity. Somewhere along the way, they forgot 524 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: to ask the consumer if they wanted it. Right, yeah, 525 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: there was. It was an effort to manufacture demand and 526 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: it failed. That's a great way to put it in 527 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: its perfectly and brutally concise. So the question with the 528 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: R then is is this manufacturing demand? And the answer 529 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: is there's a lesson learned primarily through the idea of 530 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: using a smartphone as the hardware, Right yeah, I mean 531 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: doing that where you're you're help starting to rely upon 532 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: uh someone using a piece of technology they already own. 533 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: So there's no initial investment to purchase other hardware apart 534 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: from maybe a headset that it will slip into. In fact, 535 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: I have two of them on my table right here, 536 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: essentially Google card board, but these are from Kodak picks Pro. Yeah. 537 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: I need to give one of those to Ramsey because 538 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: that's that's technically one of them is his. So doing 539 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: going through that approach, you you lower that that barrier 540 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: of entry. But at the same time, anyone who's a 541 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: savvy consumer realizes that the experiences they're going to get 542 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: using a phone as their display are going to be 543 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: far below the quality of something that's a dedicated piece 544 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: of hardware VR. So yeah, we're we're seeing um struggles 545 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: in the VR space. There's tons more VR here and 546 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: a R than I've ever seen in the past. Like 547 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: there's so many examples, and again it's another one of 548 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: those pieces of technology that seems like everybody has some 549 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: former and pieces. I I gotta tell you, man, I 550 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: took this virtual reality boat ride. I hope you guys 551 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: can hear the air quotes votes. I'm doing the sound 552 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: effect we use on other services, so it's never been 553 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: done on this one. But thank you, thank you. So 554 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: we're in this. We're in this thing. I went because 555 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: the boat ride was the shortest line. The medium line 556 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: was the was the flight line, like air flight over Sydney, 557 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: and uh, the most uh most mandy line was a 558 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: thing called Skeleton Mountain with right And of course we 559 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: had a long day and I was thinking, you know, 560 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: I'll wait till Skeleton Mountain just comes out on my phone. 561 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: But but to be fair, so everybody knows, this was 562 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: not simply a some sort of oculous riff situation where 563 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: there's a phone in a in a VR headset and 564 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: you put it on. These were in dedicated like chairs 565 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: that were hydraulically operated, so this was like a full 566 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: immersive experience and hactic feedback you had, like, so it's 567 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: like almost like a moving movie theater, very epcot. So, 568 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: so this would be more of an experience where you 569 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have control over what's happening, but you can 570 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: control your point of view, right exactly. That's the only 571 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: agency you have is looking around the perspective. Uh. That 572 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: was cool. The phone didn't blow up as he got 573 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: good as Jonathan, as you can see those you can 574 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: see I still have my eyes, yes, and then there 575 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: in fact where they were when I saw them this morning. 576 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. And you guys know that my colleague is 577 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: a skeptic, so he uh, he will tell you if 578 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm not being straight with you. That's true. So so 579 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: that was cool. Yeah, it was an interesting VR. I 580 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 1: had a VR experience today too. I went and did 581 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: something called Project Alloy, which is over at Intel, and 582 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: they had two different experiences as well. One of them 583 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: was a zombie survival game where he's trying to shoot 584 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: down zombies. The other one was a room that you 585 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: got to walk around and guess which one I got 586 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: to do the room not not the room, movie, not 587 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: that room. There's no temm uh. That didn't have Dylan's 588 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: Dylon's finally pricking up once we talked about Tommy Rizzo. 589 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: He was slimping in his This is totally true. He 590 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: was slumping in his chair a little bit right until 591 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: we got to Tommy Rozzo. So the project Helway was interesting. 592 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: It was an example of mixed or merged reality is 593 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: what they call it merged reality. So imagine a VR headset. 594 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: So you're looking at a display. It's on your head. 595 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: There's a forward facing camera on the case itself, all right, 596 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: so it's kind of like a phone. It's got you know, 597 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: like a forward facing camera um or backward facing camera 598 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: in the case of a phone. So you're you're wearing 599 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: this and the camera picks up stuff that's within a 600 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: couple of feet of your body. So that way, when 601 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: you started getting close to something, it starts to show 602 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: up in your views. So Ben, where you are standing 603 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: right are sitting right now, you're probably close enough where 604 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: I would actually be able to see you, and I'll 605 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: be looking at a virtual display that I would see 606 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: I would see the video of you right there. So 607 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: that means I could walk around a physical space but 608 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: not not bump into objects or people who are in it, 609 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: so I could still have a virtual experience. In this case, 610 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: it was actually pretty cool. When I walked in, it 611 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: looked like there was a giant globe with a moon 612 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: orbiting it, so really it was just you know, the 613 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: Earth with the moon orbiting it in the center of 614 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: the room, and then at three points around the globe 615 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: there are these green buttons and different buildings underneath them. 616 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: If I went and pressed a button, then to my left, 617 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: an enormous version of the building I had just picked 618 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: would rise up all of the ground and I could 619 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: take a better look. So there was like an something 620 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: like an Aztec pyramid, something that looked kind of like 621 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: the taj Mahal, and something that looked like more of 622 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: a European cathedral. Sounds like a crazy dream. It was 623 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: a little weird, uh. And then I would turn it, 624 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: i'd see Ramsey because he would be standing very close 625 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: to me with the camera, and but I didn't bump 626 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: into him because I could actually see him and he 627 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: didn't appear like he was in the scene. It was 628 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: more like if he were interrupting a scene. Like it 629 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: wasn't seamless, okay, so it didn't look like something yeah, yeah, exactly. 630 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: It didn't look like Ramsey was standing on top of 631 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: the earth or any just that he would kind of 632 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: be breaking through the signal in a way. So an 633 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: interesting implementation. I assume from the name project that it's 634 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: still kind of in the developmental phase of stuff is yeah, 635 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: and but it's seeing something that's being called merged reality 636 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to virtual reality or augment reality somewhere in 637 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: the middle. Was really interesting thing. So we have a R, 638 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: and then we have VR, and then we have MR. Yeah, 639 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: and then you have m R e's which wasn't that 640 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: a terrible video that? Did that ever come out? No? 641 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: I hope not. Yeah, we uh we uh on came 642 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: we had a bucket available, which yeah, which we needed. 643 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: Going back, going back to the point I would like 644 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: to ask on behalf of everybody listening on overall? Yeah, 645 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: so far in comparison to twenties, sixteens past, how does 646 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: this measure up? What are you thinking? It looks well? Um, 647 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: it's pretty busy, although towards the end of the day 648 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: Central Hall wasn't nearly as as bustling as it was 649 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: first part of the day. Um. I have a much 650 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: more focused approach this year than I have in years passed, 651 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: Like in several years, I was essentially let loose at 652 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 1: CS and that was up to me to wander around 653 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: and find things to talk about. Was a one man. 654 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: I was the only guy from how Stuff works who 655 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: who is just set up alone adrift in a lost 656 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: sea of technology. Um. This year, I had a much 657 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: more focused game plan, so I didn't see as many 658 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: of the booths as I typically do because I had 659 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: I had a very specific places I needed to be 660 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: and in video I needed to shoot. UM that stuff 661 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 1: I saw, I enjoyed. We had a great time over 662 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: at the Stern Pinball UH booth. We actually got to 663 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: play pinball, I got to talk to Gary Stern, who 664 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: is the head of the company. He opened up one 665 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: of the machines for us to look at, which is 666 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: a very a different beast than the old pinball machines 667 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: that were largely electro mechanical. Now it's mainly digital, and yeah, 668 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: it's really cool digital, but was still like with you know, 669 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: mechanical solenoids and stuff to do the actuation for the 670 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: various components. But it's all done with busses now like 671 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: microprocessors and busses as opposed to the hard wired circuits 672 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: that it used to be. Frankenstein's monster. Gary Stern actually 673 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: said that, you know, and a few years ago you 674 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: would have a half mile worth of wire in one 675 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: of those pinball machines. Now it's more like a quarter mile, 676 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: So it's been halved. It's still a huge amount of wire, 677 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: but it's much less than what it had been. It's 678 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: much more efficient. The machines themselves aren't as heavy as 679 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: they used to be. Um. But when he opened it up, 680 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: it's not like I could take one look at a 681 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: wire and know exactly what it went through it was. 682 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: It was like a spaghetti monster of madness. But that 683 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to see that. Um. I 684 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: don't know what the perception is among the press yet. 685 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to enough of our peers to find 686 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: out if they feel like this is a good c 687 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: e S or bad c e s. We've had some 688 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: in the past where there was so little innovative technology 689 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: on display that anything remotely all the ordinary, no matter 690 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: how silly it may seem, was pounced upon as being interesting. 691 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,479 Speaker 1: So the big example of that would be from several 692 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: years ago, the haptic fork, the haptic fork, which would 693 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: uh try to keep you from eating too quickly. If 694 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: you were moving the fork too fast, it would start 695 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: to vibrate so that the food on the fork would 696 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: fall off. Well, you had to eat at a at 697 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: a certain speed, you know, the mindful eating, in order 698 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: for the fork to remain Still, can I say this 699 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: on our Family show? What a Yeah, that's fine? Um, yeah, 700 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: if nothing else I can believe it. But by by 701 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: eye I mean Dylan, Oh god, But okay, I see 702 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: what you're saying. So we we don't know all the way. 703 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: But but you've seen from me and stuff. One thing 704 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: I did want to ask you about. Yeah, so this 705 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: is something we talked about off air, and we can 706 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: be briefly which was we asked about drones spoiler alert 707 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: the Companion episode on car stuff. We'll we'll touch on 708 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of dronery. Is that what we'll drone on? 709 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: We'll drone on to So what's the best drone? What 710 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: what's the most what's the well, what's the craziest one 711 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: you saw craziest that's gonna be? Oh my god? Can 712 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: I just ask you, is it true that there's a 713 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: drone that can carry people yes, yes, that would be 714 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: the e Hang drone. It is large enough to carry 715 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: one person for about twenty minutes. That's all. We gotta 716 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: really good look at it. Um that will be It 717 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: will be at least in a promo if not a 718 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: full on video. Yeah, that was That was probably the craziest. 719 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: I mean that when I think of premiered last year, 720 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: but it was the first time I had seen it. 721 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: I didn't get you to see it last year, so 722 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: I was really impressed by that. They're also, I mean, 723 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: we're seeing more drones with thermal imaging, which is cool 724 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: and kind of scary at the same time. Stuff they 725 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Would probably have a lot 726 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: to say about that. We saw a lot of drones 727 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: that are taking very different approaches. There's some that are 728 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: more like racing drones, so they're built very light and 729 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: for speed and for cornering and that kind of stuff, 730 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: and they're very high performance racing drones. There are others 731 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: that are more for things like capturing footage if you 732 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: want to do like crane shots or helicopter shots. There 733 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: are others that are specifically meant for our first responders 734 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: and emergency situations. All of them are here, and we've 735 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: seen um that huge variety, and I just I suspect 736 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: it's just going to continue. We even saw the Star 737 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: Wars drones that um we we were sent a Star 738 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: Wars drone at the office, uh, in the form of 739 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: a speeder bike. Dylan actually uh has also got one 740 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: of them, although he got a an X Wing. And 741 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: then we we both were drooling over the tai Fighter 742 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: Advance that was on display over on the show floor. Yeah, well, 743 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: well we only have to I'm not rich, but we're 744 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: doing We're doing well. We're comfortable, We're drone comfortable. But 745 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, we could go on and on about this. 746 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: The I think the the interesting thing is again hearing 747 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: your perspective about how it really is sensory overload. Like 748 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: I get to a point where I just had blinders, 749 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: where I could be looking at something and no information 750 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: is coming into my head like I that happened to 751 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: me last night when I went to what was called 752 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: Digital Experience. There's all these other events that happened after 753 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: the normal hours of the CS have closed that really 754 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: it's just an attempt for companies to get more face 755 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: time with media and other other important folks. In the 756 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: industry for people to network, yeah, and to promote stuff, 757 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: and so um, I went to this thing, and I 758 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: walked through that room three or four times, and I 759 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: think I might be able to tell you two or 760 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: maybe three pieces of tech that were on display, and 761 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: then nothing against the people who were there, no nor 762 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 1: the technology. There was plenty of stuff that was really interesting. 763 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: It literally was just that I was tired and it 764 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,240 Speaker 1: was so much. It was like, it's so much information 765 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: that my brain as a defense mechanism, was shutting down 766 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: the ability for new information to come in. So um, Yeah. 767 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: And that happens typically to me on the third day 768 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: of of the show four being open, but it hit 769 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: a little earlier this year, and we were here earlier 770 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: this year. Yes, that's true. So our plan for tomorrow 771 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: as the recording of this podcast, it will be in 772 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: the past by the time you hear it again. Another 773 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: paradox is that we're both going to go back to 774 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: the show. Ben is going to go back to the 775 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Convention Center. I'll be going over to the 776 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: other the other major area where they are exhibitors, and 777 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: that's the Sands Convention Center. Is that the area where 778 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: the Eureka places. Yes, Eureka Park, So that's where all 779 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: the startups are. Like, it's a lot of the smaller 780 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: companies that tend to focus on a specific product or 781 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 1: specific line of products. Uh, the ones that you see 782 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: in the convention center tend to be bigger companies that 783 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: might have a raise of products, like families of products, 784 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: like Samsung is a good example. They've got TVs, they 785 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: got refrigerators, they've got washer dryers, they've got all sorts 786 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: of stuff. They got phones that will blow up, they 787 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: got all sorts of things. But when you go to 788 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: Eureka Park, you tend to find companies that we make 789 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: three D printers, or we make these robots, or we 790 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: makes right that they're supposed to be an a R toothbrush, 791 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 1: and I don't know what that means. There's an augmented 792 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: reality toothbrush and I don't know. So it doesn't project 793 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: on your teeth. I don't know. Tomorrow you are Journey, 794 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: and I'm going to get a lot more information about 795 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: what's there, and I'll be shooting a lot of episodes 796 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: of the series Forward Thinking. I do. If you aren't 797 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: familiar before it Thinking, go check out Forward Thinking that's 798 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 1: a fun show I do about what the future holds 799 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: for us, and in this case, I'm using c e 800 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: s to kind of look at how future ideas are 801 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: creeping into the technology of today and uh and then 802 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: where could we go from there? Knowing that not all 803 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: of these technologies are bound to succeed, some of them 804 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: will likely fade into obscurity, but that's kind of the 805 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: fun of it too. Um So, before I completely wrap up, 806 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: first of all, reminding my listeners check out that companion 807 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: piece to car stuff or of car stuff rather, and 808 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: make sure you listen to that so as you hear 809 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: our talk about the way the automotive industry has been 810 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: taking oversees. And I have a final question for Ben, 811 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: the most important one. I don't know what this question, 812 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: so I told Ben that I had a question I 813 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: could not forget to ask him at the end. Very 814 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: important considering where we are, Where are you on gambling? 815 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 1: Are you up or down? Oh? I am actually up? Yeah, 816 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: I have almost tripled my fortunes. Wow, that's sweet. I'm 817 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 1: almost a I've almost a thirty year thirty Yeah. What's 818 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: the word for millionaire? But instead of a million, it's thirty. 819 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: So you started with tending you're up to almost thirty 820 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: you're doing better than I am. I I I'm up 821 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: sixteen dollars and cents. I did not know this would 822 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: be the question. I know you didn't know. I didn't 823 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: tell you it was an important one, though. Yeah wait 824 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: wait wait wait yeah, Well if you go back and listen, 825 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 1: tech stuff has an episode about how slot machines work. 826 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: I am currently sixteen dollars and twenty five cents ahead. 827 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 1: So I listened to my own show, followed my own advice, 828 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 1: and as a result, I have more money than when 829 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 1: I started with. And maybe you should retire a champion. 830 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: Maybe I propitiated the gods of gamblers. I what I 831 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: do is I put a twenty dollar bill, Chris twenty 832 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 1: dollar bill into the machine, and then I play, and 833 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: I wait until I get over the twenty dollars, and 834 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: then I hit cash out, and then I walk away, 835 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: and then maybe later on I'll do it again. But 836 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: as soon as I get over the amount that I had, 837 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,919 Speaker 1: I cash out and walk away. Now you know, I'm 838 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to like like many people with a newfound fortune, 839 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: I am planning to directly before we leave for the airport, 840 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: blow my tire, my entire my entire state. Yes, I 841 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: can come a coffee maybe a buffet on the dalliance 842 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: of black Check, and I'm going to use this voice. 843 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: I can, I can recommend, I can recommend the Gremlins 844 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: Slaw Machine. It's very good to me. Uh well, thank you, 845 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: thank you for asking. And yes, yes I am a 846 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: thirty year that's wonderful. So Ben Bolin, thank you so 847 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: much for joining me on this show. I will unlock 848 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: the door and allow you to leave the hotel room 849 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: as as we're finished recording your show. I would also 850 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: not to be um, not to be too too much 851 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: of a diva, but I would appreciate if you could, Untie, 852 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll see, uh will in the meantime while 853 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: we're trying to houdin our way out of the ropes. Uh. 854 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: I think that I think the long time listeners already 855 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: know we had mentioned the episodes of previous c S 856 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: s or ces pass on tech stuff. I do want 857 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: to recommend, if you are acquainted with the internets and 858 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: for everybody's benefit, of not using the Blackjack voice again 859 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: until it's time. Uh. Jonathan Jonathan also has video video 860 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,800 Speaker 1: segments on forward thinking, as well as a show that 861 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: we both work on together called brain Stuff, which addresses 862 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: everyday science, not just of math, but the questions that 863 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: you didn't know you wanted to hear, one of which 864 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: would be probably if you haven't heard of it yet. 865 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: You know how in old time movies people have a 866 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: weird voice. You're tired of the Transatlantic accent. Yes, that's 867 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: why I talked about strolling down the boulevard and saying 868 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: the dirigible races. Yes, So why do people talk that way? 869 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 1: Why does it sound like that? Well, you can find out. 870 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: And that brain Stuff episode, so if it didn't already 871 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,879 Speaker 1: pop up on Facebook for you, when when viral which 872 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: was kind of crazy, So check it out when you 873 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 1: have a chance. Uh, and do please tune in to 874 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: car Stuff. Yes, yes, and remember, guys, if you have 875 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 1: any questions, comments, suggestions for future episodes, you can always 876 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: write to me. My email address is tech Stuff at 877 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. And by the time you 878 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: listen to this ce S will be over and I'll 879 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: be able to look at my email again. And if 880 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: you don't like using email, you can contact me on 881 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: Twitter or Facebook. The handle of both of those is 882 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: tech stuff H. S W And I'll talk to you 883 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 1: again really soon for more on this and thousands of 884 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: other topics. Is it, how stuff works dot com