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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Segura.

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Speaker 2: Heilo's are live on a Monday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great z. I'll

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Speaker 2: be canned with you. I thought we were going to

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Speaker 2: be outside today. I had it backwards. I thought today

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Speaker 2: was a training camp day. Today is an inside day.

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Speaker 2: My head is in all different places. So I'm an

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Speaker 2: outerwear because I thought we were gonna be Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But it's nice and cool. It's cool in here, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: We have a c crank in here at the cross

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Speaker 4: Country Mortgage Campus.

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Speaker 3: I got I have pants on, I.

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Speaker 2: Get some do that.

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Speaker 4: I got some red Vanlely joggers on. I got my cord.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it that a great brand?

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Speaker 3: It is a great brand.

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Speaker 2: Love that brand.

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Speaker 3: That's so comfortable, comfortable, comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Comfortable, warm. Last night to dinner at the club, and

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Speaker 2: once the rain broke, yeah, once the rain broke.

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Speaker 4: So yesterday I actually got in I had to get

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Speaker 4: a match, and it was like the final day that possible.

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Speaker 4: We teed off at seven forty in a two on two.

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Speaker 3: In the in the am. How did you It wasn't rained.

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Speaker 4: It did not rain at Walden from seven forty am

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Speaker 4: until ten thirty am, and we were done in under

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Speaker 4: three hours. And the second I got in my car

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Speaker 4: to drive away, it began raining.

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Speaker 3: And I can't believe you got it in for We

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Speaker 3: didn't get.

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Speaker 4: One not one drop, not a single drop. It Walden

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Speaker 4: is I know it's closer to you than it is

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Speaker 4: to me. I think maybe I don't know similar. It

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Speaker 4: has its own weather.

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Speaker 2: Pattern mileage wise. I bet it's closer to me, but

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Speaker 2: I bet distant time to get there. I bet it's

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Speaker 2: closer to you. It is its own weather pattern. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter what's happening at my home. It's always different there.

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Speaker 4: And we just got lucky that for whatever reason, it

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Speaker 4: just all but the second I was in my car

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Speaker 2: It was pretty much all day. I mean there was.

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Speaker 2: It finally broke at like four o'clock, four thirty it

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Speaker 2: finally stopped. No, I'm concerned because while I enjoy I

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Speaker 2: do enjoy a sixty seven and a sixty five. That's nice,

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Speaker 2: but not in August. And I'm worried about a harbinger

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Speaker 2: of things to come that perhaps September is gonna just

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Speaker 2: suck and that's the best month weatherwise in the state.

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Speaker 2: We're this is not August.

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Speaker 3: No, this is not.

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Speaker 2: It's been gray, it's been cool, it's rained crazy. We

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Speaker 2: had flooding last week. Like it's nuts. This is not

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Speaker 2: what August is supposed to its supposed to be.

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Speaker 4: Santa Fe, baby, Oh dude, I'm looking at tows house.

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Speaker 2: I think we do better in Santa Fe. A little

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Speaker 2: bit bigger, a little more of a metro.

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Speaker 4: We can be in the foothills of Santa Fe and

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Speaker 4: we'll be on some great golf course. I was looking

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Speaker 4: land available, I was looking at houses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I spent My wife's like, what are

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Speaker 2: you doing in there? I'm like, I'm looking at houses

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna be very happy in Santa Fe.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna do just fine. It's gonna be great. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be really great. Do we want to talk about

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Speaker 2: this game?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we have to right. Well, first

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Speaker 3: we have a little bit of news.

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Speaker 2: Do the news. Do the news, kid.

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Speaker 3: It is with a heavy.

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Speaker 4: Heart that I announced that the Cleveland Browns have released

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Speaker 4: wide receiver Matt Landers.

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Speaker 2: He was your Greenbrier guy, like I love Theason.

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Speaker 3: He was great. But what's crazy is we never got

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Speaker 3: to see him. They didn't.

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Speaker 4: He didn't get one vertical ball in the entirety of

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Speaker 4: the preseason in games where we were being beaten, when

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Speaker 4: by the time he was in there in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 4: we didn't get to see it out of Lander, So

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Speaker 4: that's sad he's been released. The team is place Hachema

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Speaker 4: Dentegy one of our tackles, another one on reserve injured list. Uh.

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Speaker 4: They have re signed linebacker Brandon Boyer Randall and re

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Speaker 4: this training camp, and boy Or Randall came with the

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Speaker 4: cut after two days and now was back again. So

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Speaker 4: that's where that's where we are right now with the roster. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know we'll get into we've got to the tackle stuff, yep.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, we can talk about this game and and

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Speaker 4: you know, look, all right is there. They're tough. They're

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Speaker 4: tough games. Brother, that's all I can say. I'm calling them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you're living it, and I'm I'm listening

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Speaker 2: to you. You guys did a great job. You and

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Speaker 2: Chris do a great job on it, and you make

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Speaker 2: the most of what you can. But it's it is

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Speaker 2: not a product that ought to be for sale, and

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Speaker 2: it's it's across the league. I mean, unless you have

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Speaker 2: Williams who was a first round quarterback and they let

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you did. They saw it. They let him

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Speaker 2: go out and make some plays. And I mean I

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Speaker 2: think it was Jeremiah who said he reminded him of

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and he made a throw on Saturday that

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Speaker 2: was Aaron Rodgers low rolling left, throwing back before the boundary.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just ridiculous. Yeah, But unless you have that,

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Speaker 2: you really just want to get through the regular season

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Speaker 2: without showing or the preseason without showing anything and without injury. Yep,

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Speaker 2: that's it. So to me, if preseason NFL football is

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Speaker 2: going to continue, it almost ought to be for guys

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Speaker 2: fighting for spots like that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: But that's what basically got this week.

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Speaker 2: But then, don't treat it great, don't treat it or

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Speaker 2: charge it as if it's a real NFL game. Don't

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Speaker 2: masquerade as a real NFL game, because it's not. It's

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Speaker 2: just not.

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Speaker 4: No, it is not a real NFL game. And I

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Speaker 4: don't think I don't think the coach it that way.

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Speaker 2: And he'd take the guys in the middle and the

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Speaker 2: really coach it. Put them in a position you mentioned landers,

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Speaker 2: like he didn't get a chance to get deep nothing

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Speaker 2: like let him live, Like go out there and let

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Speaker 2: him go a little bit. Coach those games to win

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Speaker 2: with the back end of the roster. Maybe you got

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Speaker 2: a chance. But what it is now is it's tough watch.

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Speaker 2: Tough watch, a very very tough watch.

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Speaker 3: And it's.

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting problem that certainly the NFL now finds

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Speaker 4: itself in because I think in a world where you

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Speaker 4: scenes of training camp and you know where basically every

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Speaker 4: have all of these this access the preseason, whether you

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Speaker 3: But now it's it is tough.

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Speaker 4: I thought, I thought we had an enjoyable broadcast.

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Speaker 3: I thought Chris. Chris did a great job.

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Speaker 4: As always, it's tough to watch. It's tough, you know

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Speaker 4: for this one. If you're a Brown saying, you're like,

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Speaker 4: all right, what do I take out of this one?

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Speaker 4: Is that you know, dtr had another nice game out there.

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Speaker 4: That was good to see.

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Speaker 3: You had.

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Speaker 4: Mike Hall Junior and I'll forget all the other stuff

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Speaker 4: we already know the facts of that was very impressive

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Speaker 4: and kind of dominant as a pass rusher in this game.

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Speaker 4: Deonta Foreman looked good, yeah, and gave you exactly what

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Speaker 4: you thought you would get out of him and showed,

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Speaker 4: you know, he can be that goal line back and

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Speaker 4: also better out of the backfield than I think a

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Speaker 4: I mean, we have some young guys, you know, Isaiah

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Speaker 4: was like, man, oh yeah, ol guy, Jimmy bang Bank,

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Speaker 4: Jimmy bang Bank.

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Speaker 3: It was like, see, I'm worried.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: We looked terrible. I'm like, Jimmy, nobody's playing. No's playing, Jimmy.

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Speaker 3: These guys are bang Bank.

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Speaker 4: Come on, they're not actually playing against the always Hey, hey,

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Speaker 4: ban Bank, come on, Jimmy, fine, man.

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Speaker 2: This isn't real.

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Speaker 4: No, no, the only people who coached, it's not It's

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Speaker 4: just the only people I think who even played in

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Speaker 4: this game that would be playing defense in reality or

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Speaker 4: Deontay foreman Pierre Strong was out there for a second,

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Speaker 4: you know, Ricchi if he is, if he's healthy enough,

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Speaker 4: and then unfortunately it sounds like perhaps you have to,

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Speaker 4: you know, consider the you know, jermainea Fetti potentially is

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Speaker 3: But other than that, nobody, nobody, no, zero no, So

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. What matters is the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: And a few weeks now you're gonna get something else

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Speaker 2: here Saturday night. It's gonna be late, it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock. But if you're if you're on Browns after dark, baby, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Brown's after dark, you're gonna get it done. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if our audience is fully aware, our family is

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Speaker 2: fully aware that our final preseason game is taking place

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Speaker 2: in Seattle, that it's going to kick at ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: Eastern Time East at the PM. That's ten o'clock PM

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Speaker 2: Saturday night. And then and that our a guys are

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Speaker 2: gonna go like four is gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna play.

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Speaker 4: How long we don't know, but they certainly will be playing.

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Speaker 4: And my guess is, you know, maybe a quarter, maybe less.

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Speaker 4: I mean, right now, you have to really think about

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Speaker 4: is able to be done to protect his black inside.

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Speaker 4: Given that we've heard, you know, Kevin Sevanski yesterday say,

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Speaker 4: and we'll hear a little bit more from him later.

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Speaker 4: But you know, Jed Wills is not He's not practicing

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Speaker 4: mind boggling when we think about what we knew at

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Speaker 4: the time that he had a scope, and at the time,

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Speaker 4: it was thought he might be back by the end

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Speaker 4: of the regular season, or if we made the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: that there was a chance he would be back then.

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Speaker 4: And here we are getting ready for the regular season

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Speaker 4: and he's still not ready.

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Speaker 3: And I don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: When coach said that postgame was a post.

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Speaker 3: Game, I think it was yesterday or was it yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was yesterday. Yeah, when I saw that, and

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Speaker 2: I thought, okay, to rule him out for the whole week.

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Speaker 2: Now you're talking about now you're certainly in question if

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Speaker 2: he can play the opener. That doesn't seem very likely

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I think I'm he's losing sleep

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Speaker 4: It's not great because it has been a problem, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Dewand has not gotten a rep over there,

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Speaker 3: That seems unlikely though it does seem unlikely.

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Speaker 4: He played left tackle.

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Speaker 2: Had you known that you would not be without both

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Speaker 4: And you have to remember going into it, because I've had,

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Speaker 3: So they're like, all right, we have six.

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Speaker 4: to Dewan and Affetti. It's not anything they foresaw. Now,

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Speaker 3: Player in my call. Yeah, and then they went guard

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Speaker 4: You know, I've always said all along, Now they get

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Speaker 2: Certainly feels that way. That's the way that that would go.

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Speaker 2: We don't really know what this week bears either in

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Speaker 4: But I mean, like even in this Seattle game, let's

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Speaker 4: then I'm pretty sure behind them.

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Speaker 3: All that you would have available to you would be

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Speaker 4: we obviously liked Embetica's gets that extra spot because he's

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Speaker 4: Koro four already.

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Speaker 2: Yep, and Duan Jones comes out the millisecond, Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I Fetti will too, he will. I mean

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Speaker 3: I mean it's wild, and I don't know if they're

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Speaker 4: It's as I said, you thought you had six guys there, sure,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can. You don't need to have the best

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Speaker 3: Look at this guy. Look at him.

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Speaker 2: He's a he's fresh off of October Fest in August.

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Speaker 2: Very well, you don't. You don't need to have the

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Speaker 4: It's not like the the Chiefs line was the greatest line.

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Speaker 4: know they can't protect Joe Burrow against our front, and

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00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 4: so it becomes a game of, you know, ball out

438
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 4: so quickly check downs and that's it, because you don't

439
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 4: have the ability to take those shots down the field.

440
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Speaker 4: I worry because our team is now built to be

441
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 4: a very good vertical passing game. You have very talented

442
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 4: pass catchers who are going to want the football and

443
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 4: deservedly so. And you've got a quarterback that is trying

444
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 4: to show that he is the three time Pro Bowler

445
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 4: and the third best the third best quarterback RG in

446
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 4: NFL history. Yeah, that he is that guy. Still, so

447
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 4: this is the one thing that can derail it. And

448
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 4: you know, you tuck Whenever quarterbacks kind of get into

449
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 4: bad habits, it's because they don't believe or trust. And

450
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: you could go back for a while when you know,

451
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Speaker 4: Bake wasn't necessarily trusting what was happening in front of him,

452
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Speaker 4: and it led to a lower, lesser level of play

453
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Speaker 4: from him. So we are trying to avoid all of

454
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Speaker 4: those things.

455
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Speaker 2: That happened year two Bake, Yeah, or year one Bake.

456
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Speaker 3: Year two when we.

457
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Speaker 2: Had who we started it left tackle and then it

458
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: was Greg Rogersig Robinson came in Yeah, and was like

459
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: a savior because it was so bad before that.

460
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Speaker 3: It was Desmond Harrison.

461
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Speaker 2: Desmond Harrison, Yeah, Desmond Harrison, talented kid, talented kid. Yeah.

462
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Speaker 2: And then Greg came in and it was like because

463
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Speaker 2: up until that point, Bake didn't trust anything. No, and

464
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: then they got Greg and it was like, Okay, this

465
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: at least stabilized, stabilizes it, and we can we can

466
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Speaker 2: go a little bit.

467
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Speaker 5: No.

468
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Speaker 2: It's it's it's a brutal spot. And it's funny when

469
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: people use that reference of you don't need to have

470
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: the best offensive line. They oftentimes reference the Brady offensive lines,

471
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: the Manning offensive lines, or they'll do Mahomes and they'll

472
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: do Burrow. The common denominator is all of those guys.

473
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Speaker 2: The first two are first bellet can't miss Hall of

474
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Speaker 2: Famer gold jackets. The other two are headed that way,

475
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Speaker 2: so you can do it. You just have to be

476
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Speaker 2: extraordinary everywhere.

477
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Speaker 4: And they're also kind of for the most part, you know,

478
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: pure pocket passers whose whole game is knowing what the

479
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: defense is doing before they do it and delivering the

480
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: football on time, accurately to where the defense isn't you know.

481
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 4: Mahomes is maybe a little bit more of an improviser

482
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Speaker 4: than that. But you know, our guy and Deshaun Watson

483
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 4: is at his best kind of loosely in structure and

484
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 4: loosely out of structure. You know, he's not just and

485
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Speaker 4: he can obviously throw the ball at a very high levels,

486
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 4: high completion percentage, all of that, but it's not the same. Yeah,

487
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 4: it's not quite the same. He has a much longer

488
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Speaker 4: time to throw than anybody you listed there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see Mahomes behind the back to Kelsey?

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Speaker 3: I did.

491
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Speaker 4: I'm surprised they pulled that out in the preseason, so

492
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Speaker 4: they've been working on it.

493
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Speaker 3: I thought they were gonna.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear them in the interview the interview the

495
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Speaker 2: game interview? Okay, So Kelsey says that he didn't know

496
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Speaker 2: what route to run when they got to the line.

497
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Speaker 2: He couldn't hear Mahomes. He didn't know what route to run.

498
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Speaker 2: Mahomes is pissed because Kelsey ran the wrong route and

499
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Speaker 2: he said he kind of threw the ball behind the

500
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Speaker 2: back to like show him up, like, dummy, you're supposed

501
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 2: to be doing this. And so that's Mahomes why he

502
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: did it is because he was kind of like trying

503
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Speaker 2: to show Travis up, like that's not where you're supposed

504
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: to be. You're supposed to be over here. And I've

505
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: listened to both of the audio, both from Travis's perspective

506
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: and Patrick's, and to me, I think they're both telling

507
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 2: the truth. Yeah, why would I think Mahomes? I think

508
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: Travis didn't hear it, so it wasn't sure where to be.

509
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 2: Mahomes was pissed that Travis didn't run the right route,

510
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: and so it wasn't a designed play so much as

511
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, for God's sake, and he just

512
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: happened to complete it.

513
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 3: Of course he did.

514
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Speaker 2: Nuts. It's nuts. It's fun, it is, Yeah, it is.

515
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: It is. Uh the new Madden game, did I tell

516
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: you a tester of that? We got that down?

517
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: No, what do you think?

518
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: Same same, It's the same nonsense that game had. Now Graphically,

519
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: I guess it's a little smoother than the college game.

520
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: But I played one series with us, and I was

521
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: playing one of the boys. I can't even remember, and

522
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: oh they were playing. They were with the Cardinals. So

523
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: they want to play with Marvin and going down the

524
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: field and I release it. He's in his zone. I

525
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: release it to Amari before he even gets to the

526
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: space where it's supposed to be. And a linebacker does

527
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: the stupid thing where they dropped six feet in the

528
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: air and intercept it. And it's like I just threw

529
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Speaker 2: the control. I said him out, I'm done. They can't

530
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: get that right. Yeah, it's really why they can't get

531
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: that right. It seems like it would be easy to

532
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: get that right, but they can't. Does they get it

533
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: right in the college game. There's incomplete passes all the

534
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Speaker 2: time in the college game.

535
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Speaker 4: I don't feel like I need to have. It's not

536
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 4: like I have that much time for game anyway, But

537
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Speaker 4: I don't think I have the need to have. If

538
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: I want to play a football game, I don't need

539
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 4: two football games.

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Speaker 2: So they, I think what my kids are probably the

541
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: target because they do the creat a guy in the

542
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: NCAA and then they draft them, like Bootsy was lamenting

543
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: this morning that he kept getting drafted by the Patriots.

544
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: He kept resetting it to try to get to a

545
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: different team, and he kept going to the Patriots. Yeah,

546
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: so he's all pissed off about that. So I think

547
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: that's probably the target, is you start with one and

548
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: then you graduate onto the other because you can graduate

549
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: the draft classes so you.

550
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Speaker 4: Can bring you can bring your college guy from that

551
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: into Madden as.

552
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Speaker 2: Soon as they're eligible. So like you become a prospect,

553
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: you play. My kids are ridiculous, Like they'll become prospects.

554
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Speaker 2: They'll play at a lower school where they can start

555
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: right away. Then they'll go to a big school and

556
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: trance and all out the portal again like they'd be

557
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 2: at Ohio State in the little portal of Georgia just because,

558
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: and then they go into the NFL after that and

559
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: then they're imported in. So like Bootsie was playing with

560
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: himself this morning, he had played three years and then

561
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: got it and went in.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.

563
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that part I think that works a little bit.

564
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: But the engine is the same issues that I've had

565
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: with it for five years. Yeah, same nonsense. Our schedule

566
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: for this week, meetings and walkthrough will be later today.

567
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a practice on Tuesday at two o'clock.

568
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: There will be fans at that training camp practice, and

569
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Speaker 2: then one more training camp practice for the fans that

570
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: is Wednesday, that is at one thirty, and then Thursday

571
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Speaker 2: is like a Friday, So you'll have a light practice

572
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Speaker 2: on Thursday, and then you guys will fly to Seattle

573
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: at some point Thursday afternoon for that ten o'clock Eastern

574
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: kick out on the West Coast between the Seahawks and

575
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: the Browns. This will be a lot of I'll be

576
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: fascinating here all everything coach says this week in terms

577
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: of how he's gonna make it, who's gonna play, how

578
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: they're going to handle left tackle, all that stuff. I mean,

579
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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by. I don't recall him ever saying what

580
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: he said about like he's done for the week. I

581
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Speaker 2: don't recall that even with all like is Deshaun going

582
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: to play? Where is he remember all that a year ago? Yeah,

583
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: don't remember him ever saying he's done for the week.

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Speaker 4: I think he's probably said week to week at some point.

585
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: But maybe you're right. I I think they have to

586
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 4: at least talk. I think you need Deshan to play,

587
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: and you need all these guys to get reps. But

588
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 4: the same time, you're gonna have to feel really confident

589
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: that whoever's out there can protect him. Number one and

590
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: number two, you also most need to get some real work,

591
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: because it's possible, right that that's what you're going to

592
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 4: have to do.

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Speaker 3: Week one.

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Speaker 2: Hard to imagine it not being that way with this

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00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: close to it. I mean, now that you have a

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Speaker 2: like in the whole time, I'm thinking, well, maybe Jed

597
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Speaker 2: if Jed comes back Wednesday, so he doesn't travel to Seattle,

598
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: but like he's back at a couple of practices, okay,

599
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: like that's heading there. But to rule him out all week,

600
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: that means his first practice wouldn't be until a week

601
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Speaker 2: from today. No, a week from Tuesday, a week from

602
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Speaker 2: two week from tuesday, and now you're you're inside of

603
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: two weeks. No, it's before he's playing the Dallas Cowboys.

604
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: He's professional markets where.

605
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Speaker 4: So is obviously Jack Conklin. But Jack just hasn't necessarily

606
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: done this. No, not in a long time, in a

607
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: decade basically, right, it's.

608
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Speaker 2: Been a long time since he's since he's played on

609
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Speaker 2: the left side. Now, I don't know if that's as

610
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Speaker 2: simple as like right left, no big deal, But I

611
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Speaker 2: mean or if it's one of those things where it's

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Speaker 2: an enormous deal.

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Speaker 3: They say it is not a no big deal.

614
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Speaker 4: However, I think for a guy like Jack Cocklin, who

615
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: probably played left tackle much of his formative years, probably

616
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: the first eight years that he played football, Yeah, it's

617
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Speaker 4: probably not as big a deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably true. He's got some muscle.

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Speaker 3: Like he's at least yeah right, he's done the kicks,

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Speaker 3: all of it.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, like we talked about last night, some good and

635
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Speaker 8: some bad.

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Speaker 7: So we're watching the tape this morning.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to highlight those things that we can teach

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Speaker 8: off of with our players, and we'll do that and

639
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 8: then looking forward to getting on an airplane and heading out

640
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Speaker 8: to Seattle. We'll treat this week like a regular season week.

641
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Speaker 8: As a schedule, there will be plenty of things that

642
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Speaker 8: wouldn't be exactly like a regular season week. Will still

643
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Speaker 8: do some competitive browns versus Browns periods out there at practice,

644
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Speaker 8: but going to try to get the coaches, players staff

645
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Speaker 8: used to the rhythm of a regular season work week.

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Speaker 7: Thank Kevin.

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Speaker 9: Obviously, you said it's going to be as much like

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Speaker 9: a regular season practice as possible. Does that mean that

649
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Speaker 9: starters will get majority reps and like what we see

650
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Speaker 9: guys like Jederick Wills back at practice.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the reps this week, to your point, justin, will

652
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Speaker 8: not be exactly like a regular season that we're still

653
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Speaker 8: working in some of the younger players. As to Jed,

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Speaker 8: he will not be practicing this week, but continues to

655
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Speaker 8: work very hard.

656
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Kevin, can you update us on your other tackles

657
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Speaker 6: specifically the three that got injured last night.

658
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 8: Sure, James Hudson has an ankle injury. He won't play

659
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 8: this week, but he will be back soon. Jermaine should

660
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 8: be good to go. Had a hand injury, but he's

661
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 8: good to go. Keem is out for a little bit

662
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Speaker 8: with a knee injury, which is I'm disappointed for him.

663
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 7: You know, I will highlight his effort on.

664
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Speaker 8: That play was unbelievable running down and that's those are

665
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 8: types of things I thought you can really you can

666
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 8: teach off of those moments with your players.

667
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Speaker 7: So his effort was unbelievable.

668
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 8: Snoop Untley throws an interception, is extremely disappointed. His helmet

669
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 8: comes flying off, He runs, grabs his helmet, puts it

670
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Speaker 8: back on, and runs the defender down. So I just

671
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 8: wanted to highlight that while talking about a Keeam's injury

672
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 8: because it happened on that play. But disappointed, but we'll

673
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Speaker 8: get him back as soon as we can.

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Speaker 2: Okay. And then Nick Harris, how would you characterize his

675
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: transition back to the Browns and how did he play

676
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Speaker 2: last night for you?

677
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Speaker 7: Yeah, transition has been very, very smooth.

678
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Speaker 8: Not real surprise, just knowing the type of person Nick

679
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 8: is both as a teammate and just a super intelligent player.

680
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Speaker 7: A lot of those centers are very cerebral.

681
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 8: Nicks in that category picked everything up, very well, played well.

682
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Speaker 8: So he's a guy that you know, we're glad we

683
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Speaker 8: got him, and really he hasn't missed a beat.

684
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Speaker 7: Hey, Kevin.

685
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Speaker 9: With Jed not practicing this week and Hudson saying that

686
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Speaker 9: long term injury is the plan for him to start

687
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Speaker 9: then going into a week one.

688
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Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll wait on all those type of decisions.

689
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Speaker 8: Really focuses on on this week and and we'll work

690
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Speaker 8: through all that.

691
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Speaker 6: With all of us writing and talking about this tackle

692
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 6: situation for the last couple of weeks and then the

693
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 6: injuries from last night, it almost seems like the sky

694
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 6: is falling for you guys at left tackle and that

695
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 6: the situation is so dire. So can you kind of

696
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 6: maybe reset that a little bit and give your view

697
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 6: on why this is going to be okay and why,

698
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Speaker 6: you know, why you feel good about the future.

699
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Speaker 8: At the position. Yeah, we're just working, Mary Kak, I

700
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 8: understand what you're saying, and I can understand what that

701
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 8: may look like. But for us, we feel really good

702
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 8: about the people we have in this building. We got

703
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 8: guys that are working hard to get back, and we'll

704
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 8: just deal with it day to day.

705
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Speaker 2: What is the plan with Deshaun on Saturday? How much

706
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: will he play?

707
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Speaker 7: Yeah? Gonna Like I told you guys, the plan is

708
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Speaker 7: for him to play.

709
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Speaker 8: I always take into information, So I'm going to make

710
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 8: sure I talk to and work through that this week.

711
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Speaker 8: Not going to get into who plays and how much

712
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 8: just yet, but going to certainly work through that the

713
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Speaker 8: next couple of days.

714
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Speaker 10: Okay, so a series two.

715
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Speaker 7: Quarter, Yeah, everything's on the table.

716
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 8: But like like I mentioned last night, I think what

717
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 8: we have to do is just always we have a plan,

718
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 8: look at it, see what's available.

719
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 7: Do we want to alter anything? So we'll work through

720
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Speaker 7: that the next couple of days.

721
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Speaker 2: Do you believe that there is for example, for this

722
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Speaker 2: game Saturday, will Kevin call Seattle and say, hey, here's

723
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. What are you thinking?

724
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Speaker 3: Absolutely right, Yeah, they'll talk.

725
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Speaker 2: They'll talk, because you don't want to be in a

726
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: scenario like when our guys ask like how long is

727
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: just Sean going to go? That's not just as simple

728
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: as Kevin saying yeah, he's gonna go three series or

729
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: two series. I mean, you're gonna have to see what

730
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Speaker 2: he wants to do, and you want to see what

731
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Speaker 2: that is. And typically, when if the veterans are going

732
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: to play in the preseason, especially when they're coming off

733
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: of injury, you want them to be going out on

734
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: a high note heading into the regular season.

735
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the goal.

736
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Speaker 4: And so right if you have if they go out

737
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 4: there and have one really good series and you're ripping

738
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: the ball all over the place and it's you know,

739
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 4: boom boom boom touchdown, that might be all you need

740
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: to see.

741
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks that.

742
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're hoping to create some type of a positive memory.

743
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: And yes, the coaches will talk. And in this case

744
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 4: it's good because you know, nobody's game planning, but you

745
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: do have Mike McDonald has familiarity with the Browns offense,

746
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: and the Browns offense have familiarity with his style of defense,

747
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: obviously coming from the Ravens, so that is good. But yeah,

748
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: well they'll talk, you'll have a plan. It's definitely more

749
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 4: this is more art than science. That is a feel.

750
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, that looked good and let's go. You know,

751
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: you don't want to keep okay with three and out,

752
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: three out, three and out. Let's keep going until we

753
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: got something positive.

754
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: There was one of those with Bake, didn't We have

755
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: one of those with him where we got into the

756
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: third quarter and it was like, okay, that's enough, that's like, yeah, yeah,

757
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: you kept trying to go out on a high note.

758
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: It was like, and I don't even know if it

759
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: was necessarily all him, it was just the offense wasn't

760
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: going the way, and so it got into the third

761
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: quarter like okay, let's yeah, let's just be done with this, right.

762
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: Because again, you're still balancing work. I don't believe at

763
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 4: all that there is a significant amount of momentum carryover.

764
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: We can get into a groove. I mean, think about

765
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 4: teams that play whole seasons, rest their starters one week,

766
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 4: and then they have the playoff game and they're like,

767
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: oh my god, they're totally oh they've lost their you know,

768
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: they're not dialed in anymore because they had a week.

769
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 4: You got the two weeks. It's the same thing. So

770
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: I think if you get a little positivity, that's great,

771
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: and then there you go.

772
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: I think, unless this is just how I feel about it,

773
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 2: I think unless you have I think it's a player

774
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: preference entirely. Some guys want to play, like Mahomes wants

775
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: to play preseason football. He likes playing, so he plays.

776
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: Some guys don't like playing preseason football, Matthew Stafford, so

777
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: they don't. They don't play at all. So it's entirely

778
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: a preference thing. I think the only time when it's

779
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: like really beneficial that is a blanket statement is a

780
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: rookie situation. A rookie quarterback, especially sure who hasn't been

781
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: through the ringers of it and doesn't know what an

782
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: NFL game is like and what the pregame and all

783
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: of that, Like what the Bears are doing with Caleb Williams,

784
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 2: that's critical to him to get those He started two

785
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: preseason games, he's looked great in both, and so there's

786
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: a benefit to that. But unless you're coming you know,

787
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: and maybe that's it for DeShawn in the sense that

788
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: he's coming off of an injury, yes, what he liked.

789
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: Probably I think it's important for him to play and

790
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: have a series and slay it around and kind of

791
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: be the starter rather than the first time being four

792
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: to twenty five against Dallas with Tom Brady in the

793
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 2: Booth in the opener.

794
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think given what you just said

795
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 4: about what the Falcons are doing right now?

796
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: So I'm not aware what are they doing.

797
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 4: Michael Pennix played in the preseason opener. Yeah, went nine

798
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: of sixteen for one hundred and forty yards. Okay, Kirk

799
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: Cousins has taken every first team rep.

800
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

801
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: The Falcons did not play Pennis against the Ravens on

802
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 4: Saturday at all at all, nor they will they be

803
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 4: playing him in their preseason finale. Rheiem Moore said, Mike

804
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 4: showed us enough last week. We don't have to play

805
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: him further in the preseason. We saw enough last week

806
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 4: with Michael PENNOCKX in live situations.

807
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 2: I've never heard, you know, But they go against type.

808
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: They drafted a running back and a quarterback at the

809
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: eight pick and back to back drafts that could have

810
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: been a starting defensive end and another weapon for Kirk Cousins,

811
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: and they if they do those things, they're maybe a

812
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: super Bowl team. So I don't know.

813
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 3: That doesn't make any damn sense to me. I didn't

814
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: know they were doing that.

815
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 4: No, So I say, like, why he's not gonna play

816
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: all year?

817
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: Unless you have an injury, right, So why wouldn't you

818
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: want him? I don't let him play for a half

819
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: in every game.

820
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: Let him play the whole game. Whole game?

821
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: Who let him live? Yeah? What does this make?

822
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Man?

823
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: They're different, man, I mean that makes sense. That doesn't

824
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: make sense to me.

825
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: We've seen enough of him, have you though?

826
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: Are you sure? What does that mean? All right, we'll

827
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Speaker 2: go the state of the Browns offense coming up next.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a look at the state of

837
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: the offense. We spend a lot of time on offensive

838
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: tackle already today and that will be a point of

839
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: emphasis as the week goes along. Let's just go position

840
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: group by position group Z. Let's start at the quarterback

841
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: in terms of where we are, where we need to

842
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: be kind of how you see it, Yeah, I.

843
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: Think we're in a very good spot at quarterback. I

844
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 4: think you're gonna end up having three on the roster. Watson,

845
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 4: Jameis Winson and dtr dtrs twenty seven for thirty five

846
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: in the preseason.

847
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: Looks great.

848
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: And the interception was not a bad ball at all.

849
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: It hit our receiver in his bicep. Now, could it

850
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 4: have been out in front of him, of course, but

851
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: it wasn't a terrible throw.

852
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: And he's been very good. So I think that's what

853
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 3: you'll see there.

854
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: And then Huntley, you know, I think you saw the

855
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: good and the bat of Huntley right. His ability to

856
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: throw the football at times was good, made some plays

857
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: with his feet, but you know, the red zone interception

858
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: was just airmailed a wide open guy on a five

859
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 4: yard route and you can't overthrow like that. And now

860
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: he made an incredible play on that. You heard Keme

861
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: Sefanski reference. It gets knocked down, his helmets off, puts

862
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: his helmet back on, runs and chases down the guy

863
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: ninety yards later and he gets his helmet knocked off again.

864
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: That was also the play though where you lose Hachema

865
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 4: Dentagy and the Browns have had a real bad luck

866
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: if you think about it, it plays, it's been for

867
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 4: a while. I could think of a bunch where a

868
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 4: turnover or a bad play has led to devastating injuries. Yeah,

869
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: Jack Conklin Week one, Jed missus a block. Boom, Conklin's done.

870
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: You go back to interception. Odell gets hurt running back

871
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: after the interception and tears his ACL in Cincinnati on

872
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Speaker 4: the opening play of that game.

873
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's right. Well even kicker and punter.

874
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 4: Last that was last year. So that was on a

875
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: kick return touchdown. De Hop gets hurt chasing him. But

876
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 4: hork Is then goes and asks me the kicker hurts

877
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: himself taking So we've had our insult to injury in

878
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: this case is we were adding injury to insult and

879
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: we've we've done that unfortunately too much. But that's where

880
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: I think you are in that room running back. So

881
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: the running back room, you've got deonce Foreman, Jerome Ford,

882
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 4: and Pierre Strong and it might be.

883
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: Just those three. Like here's the other thing we haven't

884
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: seen nahem Heinz.

885
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: Boy, that's true. I mean, and he was so excited

886
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: and you knew what you were kind of getting out

887
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: of him. But now you're right, we've spent so much

888
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: time on Jack and Jed that we forget that Nai

889
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: Mines is here and hasn't practiced at all at all. Yeah,

890
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: all camp.

891
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 4: So you know, if he's gonna make it, it's gonna

892
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: because of what he is as a kick returner and

893
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: a punt returner. But I think coming off of an

894
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 4: injury that catastrophic, you need to see it. Yeah, and

895
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: he still hasn't been activated off the Pop.

896
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: No.

897
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 3: In fact, I don't know that anybody has.

898
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: I guess I haven't even thought about that, but it

899
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like it right.

900
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 4: That initial group was Naim, Heines, Jed Conklin, Newsom.

901
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 3: Newsom was on h n.

902
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 4: Fid' Anthony Bell, Nahem, Heines, none of that. We haven't

903
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: seen any of those guys, any of them. Dalvin was

904
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: Dalvin on or we haven't seen Dalvin either. I think

905
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: dal was on Pop. We've seen any of them. I

906
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 4: think Hines and news we're on n FI because Heines's

907
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: injury was sustained away from football, and then you had

908
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 4: Jed Jack, Dean, Anthony Bell, Dalvin and Nick Chubb on

909
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 4: the pupp and we haven't seen any of them. Newsome

910
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 4: is actually close to being back, which is good.

911
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. We haven't seen any of them.

912
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 4: So you know, to me, you you might get away

913
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 4: with three running backs, which would be good for the

914
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 4: overall roster. But Pierre can certainly handle your kick return duties. Yeah,

915
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 4: I think he'll be very good at it. Deontay Foreman

916
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 4: showed you exactly what you wanted to see there, although

917
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 4: we have not been able to open up any holes

918
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: in either of the first two games for our running

919
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: backs at all.

920
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: No, No, but I don't it's hard to know what

921
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what to make of it.

922
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: All right, tight end.

923
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: So tight end is going to be two or three.

924
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: Obviously you've got David Joku, You've got Jordan Akins and

925
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: I think this suits him so much better. And then

926
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 4: you've got you know, two guys I think really for

927
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 4: one spot, Trayton Welch, you know, the undrafted free agent.

928
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 4: I don't think he's you know, looking to make this roster.

929
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 4: But you've got Giovanni Ricci, who had you know, four

930
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 4: catches from thirty two yards, but now is banged up

931
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 4: and may miss a few weeks. So that makes it

932
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 4: make me think it's unlikely for him. So could Zaiyer

933
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: Mitchell Payton make it leading receiver? Four catches fifty nine yards?

934
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 4: And this one big guy been working with rabel A

935
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 4: lot as a as a blocker.

936
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Could he be?

937
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 4: Could he be the guy there? Could he he's I

938
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: think that's that's an interesting spot. We've said this is

939
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: one of the few positions right third tight end that

940
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of a battle wide receiver. I

941
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: think you're probably pretty good at six, Amari Jerry Judy,

942
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: Elijah Moore said Tilman. I mean, in fact, said Tilman

943
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: didn't even play in this last game. Tells you all

944
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 4: you need to know about what they think about said Tildman,

945
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 4: and what that he will have a role this year yep.

946
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 4: And then my guess is he got banged up David Bell,

947
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: but he is he's like.

948
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 3: The class favorite them.

949
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: It was on the Principal's Honorall gold Star. And then

950
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: I think Jamari thrash is kind of sell it separated

951
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 4: himself as that sixth receiver, you know, So that leaves

952
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: like guys like Mike Woods, Amari and Brown Prochet on

953
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 4: the outside looking in, and probably all three, you know,

954
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: our our practice squad candidates, because Proche was your punt

955
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: returner last year, so he could be on the practice squad,

956
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: come up a couple.

957
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: Times and still fulfill those duties for you.

958
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 5: Uh.

959
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: And then now we're at the offensive line, and here's

960
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 4: where I think it gets real.

961
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: I don't even do How do we even have the

962
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 2: tackle talk right now?

963
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: Well, we'll just kind of go through what we've got.

964
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It's that's something that you'll know

965
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: more a week from now.

966
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: So you've got Betonio, Ethan Posik, Wyatt Teller, Dewan Jones.

967
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: Then you have Jed Wills and Jack Cocklin, both of

968
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 4: whom I would imagine are going to be on your

969
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: fifty three I would imagine, I don't know. Then you

970
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 4: have you know, James Hudson and Jermaina f Eddy. You've

971
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 4: got Nick Harris, You've got Zach Zinter, Michael Dunn. So

972
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 4: you cannot have that would be one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

973
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: ten eleven.

974
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: You can't have eleven.

975
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: Eleven could done. Somebody had mentioned that he played tackle

976
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: at Maryland. I mean that's come on, come on, hey, hey,

977
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: come on, come on.

978
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: Uh So, my guess is you'll end up ten here,

979
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: and it's probably do they keep three on the backups

980
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: on the interior and two backups at tackle, or do

981
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: they keep three backups at tackle and two on the interior,

982
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: which would mean it would be just be Nick Harrison,

983
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: Zach Zenter. And you try to get you know, Michael Dunn,

984
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 4: Javon Cohen to your practice squad, which is probably feels

985
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: more likely. So if you dad that if you had

986
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 4: ten six sixteen twenty two and two is twenty four

987
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 4: on the offensive side, which would give you twenty six

988
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 4: bodies to play with on defense. If you had ten

989
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: o line six receivers is sixteen and that's it with

990
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: only two tight ends making the roster, that would be

991
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: ten sixteen eighteen, twenty one, twenty four. If you go

992
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: three three.

993
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: Three three two six eleven or ten, I meix ten.

994
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there you go.

995
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 2: There you go. Need some clarity up front, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Browns quarterback Cole McCoy is retiring from the NFL. The

1015
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: Browns drafts McCoy in the third round of the twenty

1016
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: ten draft out of Texas. Three seasons with US and

1017
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: then played for the forty nine ers, the Commanders, the Giants,

1018
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: and the Cardinals. Started thirty six games for seventy five yards,

1019
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: thirty four touchdowns, thirty two picks in the career, a

1020
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: fourteen years career. Tv O Bradford. All these guys drafted

1021
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 2: ahead of him, and he lasted the longest.

1022
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 4: It's incredible, and it's it's not a bad living if

1023
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: you can get it right.

1024
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's it's a heck of a it's

1025
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: a heck of a living to be able to make

1026
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: and usually what you come across. Chase Daniels talked about

1027
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: this too. Who he was in another one of those

1028
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: you know he was played at Missouri, Colt played at Texas. Yeah,

1029
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: those just really smart, supportive. If you're smart and supportive

1030
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: and easily adaptable, you could make a living playing backup

1031
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: quarterback for a long time, almost never having taken snaps. Yeah,

1032
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: is kind of the way that it goes. Yeah, he

1033
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: was there was always a physical It's he was definitely

1034
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: a top My Heisman ballot. His senior year they played

1035
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: for the national title. He gets hurt in the National

1036
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 2: title game on the first drive. Yeah, if he doesn't

1037
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: get hurt, they go right down on Bama with him

1038
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: at quarterback. He gets hurt on the first drive he

1039
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 2: goes out. I want to say, Garrett, it doesn't matter.

1040
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: They had a five Our kid was a true freshman

1041
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 2: who came in and just got didn't water because they

1042
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: got smigg smoked. Yeah, they had no chance.

1043
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 10: The reer lost for Colt McCory a little over twenty

1044
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 10: five million, twenty five.

1045
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 4: Tracks, twenty six, twenty six, four, forty seven, nine eighty.

1046
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: But what's interesting is his first at the by the

1047
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 4: time he turned thirty uh or thirty one, he'd have

1048
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 4: made ten million. He actually made sixteen million the last

1049
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 4: seven years. Yeah, so it was actually more private, except

1050
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 4: you know, and that's when he actually thought he was

1051
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 4: going to be maybe doing something. The most he ever

1052
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 4: made in a single season was three million, ninety three thousand,

1053
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 4: seven hundred and fifty dollars for the Washington Commanders in

1054
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, and then in twenty twenty two he was

1055
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: actually paid three million, seven hundred and fifty thousand for

1056
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: by the Arizona Cardinals at the age of thirty six.

1057
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: It's amazing and he's a great friend of the hoff

1058
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: Hoff loves. He introduced off to those poncho shirts Off

1059
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: wears all the time.

1060
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so he got him Lockton, like it seems

1061
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 3: like London.

1062
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 2: London Brown paling around with Paul Brown. Yeah, doing Dames

1063
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: Breakfast and Guinness and doing the Guinness Challenge, like all

1064
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: these things are happening for the Hoff.

1065
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 3: Is he just running unfettered in England Boulevard and green lights? Baby? Yes,

1066
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 3: he is.

1067
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: Fantastic job out of the off, McCoy is not going

1068
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: to work with nb Sports, NBC Sports covering Big Ten

1069
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: games as a game and studio analyst. He'll make his

1070
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 2: booth debut September seventh in the game between Nebraska and Colorado.

1071
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: So I was curious on the so that last year

1072
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: that was a Noah Eagle Todd Blackledge was their Saturday

1073
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 2: night college football game. And they're doing the Brazil game.

1074
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 2: No Eagle and Todd black attleg is doing the Brazil game.

1075
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: They are correct.

1076
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been introduced, so they're going down there for

1077
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: that game.

1078
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 10: But it's because the NBC, you know, the Thursday of

1079
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 10: the Sunday Night Cruise doing the Thursday night game.

1080
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's Friday night, Friday night and Sunday night.

1081
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 2: Oh they're running it back Sunday, so they're going three

1082
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: games and then four days on NBC. Yeah, jeez, that's

1083
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: a behemoth. Eagle's great, so then he's gonna So then

1084
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: I wonder how that explains it. That's right, that's opening

1085
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: weekend of the NFL. So it won't be Noah and Todd.

1086
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: He'll be doing the game. Could be with a Jack

1087
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: Collinsworth or something like that. Could be that type of

1088
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: a situation in the Colorado Nebraska game. And then Colt

1089
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: will probably go to like the pinch hit guy and

1090
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: then do some studio stuff. That's probably the way that'll go,

1091
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: because they those two guys are really good, Eagle and Blacklynch.

1092
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: They were really good. Last year, Raiders head coach at

1093
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: Tonio Paris announced Gardner Minshew will be the starter week one.

1094
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: He beat out Aidan O'Connell for the job. Duh, Benshew, Baby.

1095
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 4: I still think that's where Justin Field should have ended up.

1096
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 4: But it's neither here nor there.

1097
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: Well, it's a pretty bad job out of it's a

1098
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: pretty bad job out of Justin that the guy who

1099
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: was his offensive coordinator in Chicago and him and said, actually,

1100
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: we're good with.

1101
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 4: Him, all right, do this game with Neither one of them,

1102
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 4: by the way, have played particularly well this preseason, and

1103
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 4: Neil Pirace even said, I wish that, you know, there's

1104
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: a happier end for this competition, but it is now over.

1105
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: So these guys are the The Las Vegas Raiders are

1106
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: a slow start to towards an off row, off ramp

1107
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: to a tank. Like it'd be very easy for that.

1108
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: They should tank, That's what they should do. Yeah, it

1109
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: makes all the sense of the world. How many teams

1110
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: in the league are in a position where they could

1111
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: off road for a tank. The Raiders certainly feel like that.

1112
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: I think Denver likes Knicks. I think that I don't think.

1113
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 3: They wanted them all along.

1114
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: Remember, Yeah, like Jimmy bang Bank had that from somebody

1115
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 4: that he met at a conference.

1116
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: I think bang Bang did have that.

1117
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 3: He did.

1118
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. They feel like they're an off ramp to

1119
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 2: a tank. Could the Giants be an off ramp for

1120
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: a tank? They feel like they would be ripe for it.

1121
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: But the team we just saw here, the team we

1122
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: just saw king is really leaning towards that.

1123
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: I think if the Saints got into a terrible start,

1124
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 4: they would be.

1125
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: Yes, the other one. Those are ones that all if it.

1126
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: The rest of them are all either have their quarterback.

1127
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: The rest of the bad teams either have their quarterback

1128
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: or just drafted them.

1129
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 4: Peyt right, Patriot's just drafted. I would say if the Jets,

1130
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 4: if like the Rogers, got hurt again, they would be

1131
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: a candidate. Texan's called Jake Sitans. Now, I don't think

1132
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: any I don't think the Titans are no.

1133
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: It seems like they like Levis. I guess if Levis

1134
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: is terrible, they could off rampant. But it's not a

1135
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: terribly loaded quarterback class anyway. Now they still could all

1136
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: go except three of them in the top ten with

1137
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: Beck and Ewers and shaduer Sanders.

1138
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 4: But tell you what, the NFL is pretty good. I mean,

1139
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 4: I think the Falcons are gonna be compelling. In the South,

1140
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 4: the Bucks made the playoffs last year, so you got it.

1141
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 4: I think two and the Saints are solid. You have

1142
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 4: three solid teams. Do it this way, do this game.

1143
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: Who's bad? Just start in the AFC East. New England's bad.

1144
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: Start in the AFC East.

1145
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: Okay, just New England.

1146
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: New England is the only one bad there. AFC South,

1147
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody.

1148
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Tennessee. I don't know if they're bad, I

1149
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: don't either.

1150
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: But they're the like emphatically, so i've I could win teams.

1151
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 7: Right.

1152
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: If you say bad, then I think just so far,

1153
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 2: just New England raiders bad.

1154
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 3: Agreed.

1155
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: Denver is a lot like Tennessee.

1156
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: I think Denver's bad.

1157
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So Denver bad bad?

1158
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 7: All right?

1159
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 2: So that's three NFC, NFC, it's tough.

1160
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1161
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 10: By the way, this just in out of Washington. Jade

1162
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 10: Daniels name starting qban.

1163
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 2: Kidding, no kidding, Hey, New England do the same thing. Yeah,

1164
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: play the kid, play him?

1165
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 3: Who? By the way, who was who was Jayden Daniels

1166
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 3: even competing with? In Washington?

1167
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: Uh?

1168
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 10: They said Marcus Mariota is on the roster to simply

1169
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 10: buffer Daniels. The rookie needed no bridge.

1170
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked good, Mariota. I didn't even know if

1171
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: Mariota was the guy I was thinking of. I thought

1172
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: they had somebody else they brought in. Who, right, that

1173
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: kid's no Sam? How's like in San Seattle? Yeah? Because

1174
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: pretty good?

1175
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: He was?

1176
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, locks in New York. I thought they had

1177
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 2: somebody else too, So you got three bads. I don't know.

1178
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: Are the Giants bad.

1179
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1180
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: I don't think so either.

1181
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 3: Really, I don't we're talking.

1182
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: Terrible terrible. I don't think the Giants won six games

1183
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: last year and they drafted the leak neighbors.

1184
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sam Hartman is in Washington.

1185
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: No, that's so he's I got Sam Hartman and Sam

1186
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: Hall confused. Hartman was at Notre Dame last year before that.

1187
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 10: He's a rookie. Ye, I'm I'm in on the Giants

1188
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 10: being awful. Daniel Jones is garbage. They lost Barkley who

1189
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 10: I mean.

1190
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: I agree, I don't disagree that they are on it.

1191
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: I mentioned them as an off road for a tank,

1192
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: but I'm not ready to say they're bad garbage. I

1193
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: think they could be competitive a little bit. I think

1194
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: the Vikings could be bad. I mean, I like Kevin

1195
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: a lot and Quasis our guy, but that's a tough

1196
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: that's tough outfit.

1197
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you're not gonna have Hockinson back. I

1198
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: think probably till the middle of the year at the earliest.

1199
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not great.

1200
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: It's not great.

1201
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: Carolina is bad.

1202
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody in the West is bad.

1203
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: No, huhuh no. And I think like a team like

1204
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: Arizona thinks they've kind of reset Kyler and they're pretty

1205
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: confident about their operation. I think that they could be

1206
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 2: a building team. I think if they win seven games,

1207
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: they're thrilled, but they think they're heading in the right direction,

1208
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: in the right direction. And the Rams and the Seahawks

1209
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: are pretty mustard. So I think there's only like four

1210
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: or five bad teams. Even if you put the Giants

1211
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: in there, that's five or six. I mean, they're just

1212
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: it's a lot of good ball. It's a lot of

1213
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: good ball out there. Man is the Viking signed quarterbacks

1214
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: Stefan Gilmour one year ten million. He played for the

1215
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: Cowboys last year, So we saw that former Defensive Player

1216
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: of the Year in nineteen sixth different team in his career.

1217
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 2: This from Florio published an article on Pro Football Talk

1218
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: critiquing this year's Hard Knocks with the Bears. He's claiming

1219
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 2: the show is less real than ever before. Some quotes

1220
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: and observations from the article through two episodes, there's no

1221
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: profanity on the show at all. Well, as a as

1222
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: a father of two children, good and it works good

1223
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: for me. So what Why is that negative that there's

1224
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: no profanity? So I'll rebut that the Bears didn't want

1225
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: to do hard knocks at all. The next best thing

1226
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 2: is to make it so boring that no one wants

1227
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: to watch. Then I don't think he's watching the same

1228
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: thing I am, because I think I've enjoyed it's straight

1229
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: star power. Like it's Caleb Williams. Yeah, eighty percent of

1230
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: the time, it's DJ Moore, it's Simone Bile's husband.

1231
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1232
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what more you'd want.

1233
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 10: Adam rips this every day on PFT last one.

1234
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: Hell, it barely seems like ambl Schreiber wants to narrate.

1235
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: At one point of voice is so flat and dull

1236
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: that I wondered whether they opted for an AI version

1237
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: of the series. Longtime narrator. What's his ax to grind here?

1238
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. He's he likes to go to negative town.

1239
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: Let's just be honest about it.

1240
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember we had Yeah, that escalated quickly.

1241
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 10: We thought it would, and it was.

1242
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: We were hopeful we were having a little bit of fun,

1243
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: but Tommy DeVito's agent instead not no fun. Hey, don't

1244
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: you remember the follow up question? It was like a

1245
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:02,959
Speaker 2: three minute answer, and we're like, oh.

1246
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: Okay, anybody saying that he was like damaging.

1247
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: Stereotypes to Italian Americans. Yeah, he seems like he's living

1248
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: his best life to him. Yeah, so he seems happy

1249
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 2: about it. Mike, I don't know. Yeah, I don't sense

1250
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: that at all. I think it's been awesome. I think

1251
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: the Caleb Williams stuff is awesome. I think the stuff

1252
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: with Eberflus is great. I think if anything like and

1253
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: it's our organization, but we're probably the low point of

1254
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: hard Knocks because we.

1255
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: Did not play that. We didn't give him anything nothing.

1256
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: We misled and they cajuiced crystals with Cajuice, like, yeah,

1257
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: broken Roeback and Aim. At least he was our player.

1258
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: He was gonna Yeah. But I mean we spent they

1259
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time with Devin Cauldjuice. I remember,

1260
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: like Cohen Home, that was my first year here, and

1261
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: we would watch the episodes and my wife would be like,

1262
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: what about the Cajuice kid. I'm like, honey, he's nowhere

1263
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: near making this roster. He's not in the vicinity of

1264
01:00:59,120 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: making the roster.

1265
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: No brog Brogan Roan rollback had no chance. None, Yeah, no, none.

1266
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: The Bengals have announced that we were in they're all

1267
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: orange uniforms when the open season Week one against the Patriots.

1268
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: They also got the Evan McPherson deal three years sixteen

1269
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: point five before Jamar Chase. I don't think those two

1270
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: things are linked at all. I mean one's three years

1271
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: sixteen point five, the others trying to reset the receiver market.

1272
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: So I think those things are very different.

1273
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 4: They're quite different, Yeah, quite different.

1274
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: All orange for them.

1275
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: I don't like that.

1276
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 4: I think the orange looks better under a black jersey

1277
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 4: or I just don't think all the orange looks great.

1278
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: It seems like uniform for uniform's sake for me. Yeah,

1279
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: I think they have a cool uniform when they wear

1280
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: black over white, or I think black over orange is

1281
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: fine when they do that, or even white over orange whatever.

1282
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: And then they have the all white one, the white

1283
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: Bengal Tiger, which everybody wanted forever. Yeah, So not sure

1284
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: on that, No, not sure. And around the sports world,

1285
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr is expected to step down as Team USA's

1286
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: had coach Eric Spolster Tyler or the front runners to

1287
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: replace him. Is Tyler ahead coach somewhere in the league.

1288
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm asking, I don't know Clippers. Is he clips? Okay,

1289
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: very thankless. Jobby coached the team for what Olympic game

1290
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: got a gold medal? Is expected to step.

1291
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 10: Which, by the way, again I told these guys, I

1292
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 10: don't think the coaches get medals.

1293
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: They don't.

1294
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 10: Like Coach K never got a medal for winning like

1295
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 10: three gold medals.

1296
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: They they don't. And honestly, you know what would be

1297
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: might be perfect for something like that is if somebody

1298
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: like coach K did it again, like somebody or even

1299
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Speaker 2: Jay Wright Villanova, like somebody who doesn't coach in the

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Speaker 2: NBA who doesn't have to worry about any of it

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Speaker 2: and just coaches the team ahead of him. One thing

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Speaker 2: I saw on Carmelo Anthony was really fourth right in

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Speaker 2: his I feel like he was pretty locked into what

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Speaker 2: was going on with Team USA. And he says the

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Speaker 2: only thing that they did wrong with Jason Tatum was

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Speaker 2: they should have told him in the camp, hey you're

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Speaker 2: the third three, like it's Lebron, it's KD. Then you

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Speaker 2: you're the third three. So he says that he felt

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Speaker 2: like they weren't honest with Tatum in terms of what

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Speaker 2: his role would be, and that's where the hard feelings

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Speaker 2: came from.

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Speaker 3: And it's absurd.

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Speaker 4: He should have been on the floor over a lot

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Speaker 4: of the people that were on the floor. Why do

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Speaker 4: we have to play by This isn't how basketball's played.

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Speaker 4: It's not played with one, three, a four, a five.

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Speaker 4: It's not played that on anymore. It's played just get

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Speaker 4: your BET's.

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Speaker 2: A fantastic point out of you. Also, the notion that

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Speaker 2: Lebron is a three, He's not a three's a one.

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Speaker 3: Basically was their point guard.

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Speaker 2: He was the point guard. That's what he was. It's

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Speaker 2: what he's been with the Lakers for the last four years.

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Speaker 2: Like he is not a three in any way other

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Speaker 2: than size.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He is a point guard, is what he is. So

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Speaker 2: there you go on that side of things, all right,

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Speaker 2: We'll take a look at the state of the Browns

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Speaker 2: defensive room, much healthier than the offensive side of things.

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Speaker 2: Going to that coming up next, list to clear. The

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Speaker 2: a look at the Browns offense through the first two

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Speaker 2: preseason games and where we stand at this point in camp.

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Speaker 2: Let's do the defense now, and for that we go

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Speaker 2: to Doc to Z.

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Speaker 4: All right, if you are just joining us, we kind

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01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 4: of went through the offense and we had, you know,

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Speaker 4: roughly twenty four guys make it, not roughly exactly twenty

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Speaker 4: four guys making it on offense.

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Speaker 3: But that left some.

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01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: People out that because it's going to be difficult to

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 4: make this roster defensively. I think it's even going to

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 4: be more difficult start defensive end. I believe we will

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Speaker 4: have five defensive ends and we will have Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 4: Zadarius Smith, obo okoron quote, Alex Wright, and.

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Speaker 3: Isaiah McGuire who they liked a great deal.

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Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas I think would be a prime candidate for

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Speaker 4: the practice squad and has been.

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Speaker 3: I think he's had an excellent preseason.

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01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: Pretty good room there, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Defensive tackle. I think you will have five here as well.

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Speaker 4: This is where you could see them maybe do a

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Speaker 4: thing where they keep four if they need, like a

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Speaker 4: vested veteran. You know that they would that they cut,

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Speaker 4: but then have the you know you're coming back your

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01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 4: wink wink, nod nod, but you hat Dalvin Tomlinson, who

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Speaker 4: we have not seen yet. You've got Shelby Harris, Quentin,

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Speaker 4: Jefferson Mohurst, Mike Hall, and I I do not believe

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Speaker 4: at this time that Siaki Eco will be on this ross. Sure,

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Speaker 4: I mean he was playing, but like the last snaps

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 4: of that game, they could have had Sam Kamara out there,

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Speaker 4: they did not.

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Speaker 3: No, that's typically that's somewhat.

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01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 4: Telling, and it's unfortunate. I mean that was yeah, real

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01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 4: high hopes coming out of Baylor.

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Speaker 3: Now we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I could be wrong, but that was just that's

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01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 4: that's Those aren't scores as much as that is just

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01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 4: observing and history teaching me what I think I'm looking at.

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Speaker 2: Well done all right.

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01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 4: LB's LB's six of them, Jordan Hicks, Jeremiah Usu Kormo,

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01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 4: Tony Fields, Mahmod Diabat, Devin Bush, and Bookie Oor Watson.

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 4: Now I think Winston Reid has a good shot to

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01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 4: be on the practice squad. They like him a lot,

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Speaker 4: especially since I also think it defense tackled. Chris Williams might.

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Speaker 3: Be a practice squad target.

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Speaker 4: I think ECO they would if nobody claimed him. Sure

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 4: certainly bring him back. Corners six, Denzel Ward, mj Emerson,

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Speaker 4: Greg Newsome.

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: When am I blinking right now? On twenty nine cam Mitchell.

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Speaker 4: Now here's where I think it is wide open, and

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Speaker 4: I have no idea what they are going to do.

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Speaker 4: But you have got Khalif Halossie, who they like a

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01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 4: great deal. Miles Harden they like a great deal, Tony Brown,

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Speaker 4: Justin Hardy. Now Brown's probably a better corner than Hardy.

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01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 4: But Hardy is, you know, the only Special Teams pro

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Speaker 4: bowler here. So you really have eight right now for.

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Speaker 2: Six spots, eight for six at corner.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how this is gonna go.

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Speaker 4: My guess is they're gonna keep one of the Special

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Speaker 4: teams guys and one of Halossie and Harden. But they

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Speaker 4: really like Harden and they really like Colossie. Halossie would

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01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 4: maybe get a little bit of an edge because I

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01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 4: think Harden's viewed more as a nickel. Yeah, you already

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Speaker 4: have Cam Mitchell as the nickel, and Halossie probably would

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01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 4: be truthfully your next like your number four outside guy.

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Speaker 4: So I could see this end up being Halossie and

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Speaker 4: Tony Brown, or Halossie and Justin Hardy, or you can't

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Speaker 4: rule out Harden, but that's so that's that's tough.

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Speaker 3: And then safeties. And now right now I have five

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Speaker 3: that would be.

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Speaker 4: One Thornhill, Grant, Delpot, Rodney McLeod Ronnie Hickman, d Anthony Bell.

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Speaker 4: Now if d Anthony Bell isn't ready, maybe you can

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 4: get away with four here and then you'd be able

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01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 4: to bring him, you know, back once things go like

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01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 4: he could be on your roster, you place him on

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01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 4: IR once the season starts, you bring back one of

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Speaker 4: the defensive tackles, and you go with four, and then

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Speaker 4: have somebody on the practice squad like Edmunds. I think

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Speaker 4: number forty one Edmunds I think has practice squad potential here.

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Speaker 2: So you're if you have four safeties, then you're good

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01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: because you had twenty four on offense, you get twenty

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01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 2: twenty seven other and then you can't. So you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to something's got to give, right, Yeah, But I

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Speaker 2: think folks, one thing that you're noticing is that these

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01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: are the these are not the old days. I mean

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01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 2: you're talking bottom bottom roster. Yeah, you're talking fifth, sixth corner,

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01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: You're talking fourth, fifth safety, You're talking.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think they want Hickman and Bell. I

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Speaker 3: think they.

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Speaker 2: Want Yeah, that you want them all, but like I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're talking the very last.

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Speaker 4: Now, you probably could get away with five linebackers and

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 4: then you hope that you can get Bookie Watson back

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01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 4: to practice squad, But I don't know if they want

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 4: to expose him to that.

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01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: We also don't know the new kickuff rule is gonna.

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Speaker 3: I think it makes a big difference.

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: I think Bigley.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I think Winston Reed will be on

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01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: the price one. I think he has a potential to

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01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 4: be active even on game days as a as a linebacker.

1445
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 4: So I think that's kind of pretty much where where

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01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 4: it stands here.

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 2: Do you have any you know, the linebacker injuries, any

1448
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 2: any of the injuries on defense give you pause.

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01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 4: Well, we haven't seen the Anthony Bell at all, so

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Speaker 4: I mean that gives me some pause there. But other

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01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 4: than that, No, I think Dalvin is going to be

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 4: good to go. We're good the defensive end, linebackers, Hicks,

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01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 4: they said it'll be ray for Gwen Fields is actually

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01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 4: doing more work now, so I think he'll be He's

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01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 4: gonna be ready.

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01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 3: You're good.

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01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 4: Greg should be back. So no, I really don't have

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01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 4: any concerns.

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01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you were without Zadarius, who's fine and he'll

1461
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 4: be ready to go, but you're without Zadarius Dalvin Hicks, Newsome.

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of the five that were out

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01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 4: when we were taking on Minnesota. Oh, and Denzel was not,

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01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 4: and Denzel is.

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01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: Denzel in the protocol still right right, Yeah.

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 3: So that's where you are.

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 4: So like the idea that you could have a guy

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 4: who is just like Heine Nahem Hines, it feels tough

1469
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 4: to see how he would get onto this team right now.

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01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 4: Feels tough to see if a third tight end makes

1471
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Speaker 4: it or you're gonna have to go one fewer at

1472
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 4: the offense line maybe, or you're gonna have to cut

1473
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 4: a receiver that you really like, or you're gonna have

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01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 4: to cut a linebacker that you're like. You're gonna have

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01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 4: to cut multiple you really like, You're gonna you might

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01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 4: have to say, listen, we're gonna cut you. But come

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01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 4: back to a you know, a Mowhurst or a Shelby Harris,

1478
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 4: some a vested veteran like that. There's it's not going

1479
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 4: to be easy to get this down to fifty three.

1480
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 4: And right now, you know, the biggest question is what

1481
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 4: the heck do we have to do with the O line?

1482
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 4: Because ideally on the line you could go, you could

1483
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 4: get away with nine for sure. In some case you

1484
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 4: get away with eight, but I think nine for sure.

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 4: Two backup tackles and then you have a backup you know,

1486
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: Nick Harris, and then you have Zach Zinner and then.

1487
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 3: Away you go.

1488
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, but with our situation right now, you might need

1489
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 4: to have four backup tackles or you might need to

1490
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 4: have them sorry, one, two, three, five tackles total three backups.

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Speaker 2: You coach will talk tomorrow before practice and and hopefully

1492
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: you start you need to see Jack get start to

1493
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 2: be around and you need to see those things. That's it, folks.

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01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: Like the reason everyone's talking tackle is because there's nothing

1495
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: else to talk about. Everything else is deep deep on

1496
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: the depth chart.

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Speaker 3: Stuff.

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Speaker 2: Tackle is the only thing on the front line. Yep,

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Speaker 2: left tackle. That's it all. Coming up next. He is

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: is the preseason television voice of your Cleveland Browns. He

1514
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: is the partner with the man to my left, the

1515
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: great Oh Baby Zee he is, Chris Rose, I thought

1516
01:12:58,479 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: you guys were great. I thought you and Z were

1517
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: that's right. I think you guys have fun. These are

1518
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 2: tough sales, Chris. This is tough. I mean, you're not

1519
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 2: playing guys who are gonna play. You're deep on the

1520
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: depth chart. Well, you don't have a rookie quarterback to watch.

1521
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: It's tough. But I think you guys have a good

1522
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: time and paint some fun pictures for us. So, for

1523
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: what it's worth, nice job on Saturday, Buddy.

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01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 5: I appreciate that a lot.

1525
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 7: Bo.

1526
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 5: You know what, my favorite part of the entire day

1527
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 5: is with Nathan. I got to be honest with you.

1528
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 2: Yea.

1529
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 5: When so when there's ninety guys on the roster, it's

1530
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 5: like doing a college game, except the guys at the

1531
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 5: end of the college roster actually get in the game, right,

1532
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 5: So there's always I don't know how you guys, you know,

1533
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 5: but I don't know how many games you've done before.

1534
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 5: But when you prep, you like, you know, you study

1535
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 5: the rosters and you kind of go over them in

1536
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 5: your head and you feel good about it. It's like studying

1537
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 5: for a test, right, Yeah, And all week there were

1538
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 5: two guys I had trouble with from the Vikings for

1539
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 5: whatever reason, I would just get a brain fart and

1540
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 5: I got, you know, brain freeze. I just locked up

1541
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 5: on these two guys and I couldn't figure it out.

1542
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 5: And of course the football announcing gods will make sure

1543
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 5: that those two guys take second page. And bow Richter

1544
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 5: made a play number ninety eight on a sack and

1545
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 5: Dwight mcglothin made the interception on the ninety yard return,

1546
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 5: and I swear to God as it happened, I was like,

1547
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 5: oh my God, is that forty seven that did it?

1548
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 5: Because I can't remember his name. As he is running

1549
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 5: down the field and Nathan is pointing frank with you know,

1550
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 5: frantically at the boards saying it's like pointing a harder

1551
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,799
Speaker 5: and harder, more emphatic with the point. He's like, hey, dummy,

1552
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 5: it's stiff guy that is just picking off the ball.

1553
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 5: So it's one of my favorite things. There's a lot

1554
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 5: of favorite things I love about Nason, but that it

1555
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 5: might be the top.

1556
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 4: By the way, that was there was no hey dummy,

1557
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 4: implied whatsoever. It's just there far away here, I saw

1558
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 4: it here you what so you w yeah, A little

1559
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 4: bow written, Everyone's a little bow Richter action.

1560
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: You ch.

1561
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 4: People really wanted the return of the best damn sports show,

1562
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 4: and they got it that Fanatics Fest. Chris was so

1563
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 4: kind shared some of the picks from behind the scenes

1564
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 4: with me yesterday. It looked like an awesome time and

1565
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 4: I heard there was real great crowd interaction that had

1566
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 4: Spider Sally fired up.

1567
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, we have to get into that

1568
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 5: part right now. Yeah, the uh, it was fun. So

1569
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 5: I'm sure a lot of people have seen on social

1570
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 5: media channels about fanatics Fest, and I didn't know what

1571
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 5: to make of it. I was there on Friday for

1572
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 5: John Boy Media. We were up on center stage for

1573
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 5: two hours and had our own booth, and it was

1574
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 5: quite an event, like it was amazing. He brought in

1575
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 5: a listers all over the place and so that was

1576
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 5: a ton of fun on Friday and then Sunday to

1577
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 5: be able to get together with I mean, it was

1578
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 5: the show that kind of really changed the trajectory of

1579
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 5: my career and and I love those moments. We did

1580
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 5: it for eight years, not obviously with the same cast

1581
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 5: and crew, but a lot of it and I hadn't

1582
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 5: seen Tom and it had to have been over a decade. Obviously,

1583
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 5: Irv I worked with for years. I'd run into Sally

1584
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 5: in some strange places in town. Hadn't seen Jalen Rose

1585
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 5: in a long time. I run into Stephen A. Smith

1586
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 5: a little bit, and obviously I see Cec Sabbati a

1587
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 5: awful lot. And we couldn't get cruck up there because

1588
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 5: he had Philly's broadcasting duties. But it was great. I mean,

1589
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 5: it was so awesome to see everybody and hang out

1590
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 5: and you know, rekindle a little bit of magic that

1591
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 5: hopefully people were entertained from two thousand and one through

1592
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 5: two thousand and nine, and then yesterday afternoon. It was

1593
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 5: a great crowd and I loved everytht of it.

1594
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 2: Chris, while we're talking about this, how did this come about? Initially?

1595
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 2: All the way back in one two thousand? How did

1596
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: it come about? What was did you know what you

1597
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 2: were signing up for? How instrumental were you in the

1598
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: development of the show, because it, as I've said many times,

1599
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: it was so instrumental to me in terms of how

1600
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 2: to do sports television in a really fun way, in

1601
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: a really accessible way, yet also smart and all of

1602
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: those things. How did it come about for you.

1603
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 5: Well, I was out at Fox Sports Nets. So think

1604
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 5: of it as as kind of today's version of Fox

1605
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 5: Sports One, except that we were kind of a competitor

1606
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 5: with Sports Center. We had a late night show called

1607
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 5: The National Sports Report, and we had a lot of

1608
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 5: really good talented people, Keith Olberman, Kevin Frasier, Jeanie's Alaska,

1609
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 5: Chris Myers, like a lot of people. And then you

1610
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 5: heard rumblings about this possible show being broadcast. David Hill,

1611
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 5: who of course was the executive at Fox Sports, wanted

1612
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 5: to bring this show over from Australia and it was

1613
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 5: called the best damn sports show period, And you heard

1614
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 5: rumblings as former athletes and Tom Arnold's going to be

1615
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 5: a part of it, and we're all like like Roseanne's

1616
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 5: ex husband. People couldn't quite get a feel for what

1617
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 5: it was around the building. I was not supposed to

1618
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 5: be a part of the show. The week before it started,

1619
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 5: they were doing rehearsals and there were two other guys

1620
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 5: who were going to switch off co hosting it, okay,

1621
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 5: but only one per day. Neither of them could do

1622
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 5: the rehearsals on Thursday and Fridays, So my boss called

1623
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 5: he said, hey, listen, we want you to just sit in,

1624
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 5: have the guys work on their building, chemistry, have you know,

1625
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 5: the whole crew working together to get a show ready

1626
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 5: for a particular day. So it's essentially a preseason game,

1627
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 5: except here's where the starters are playing, except for you, Rose,

1628
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 5: You're not going to be a starter. Well I did

1629
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 5: it for two days. My boss walks up to me

1630
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 5: after Friday show and he said, hey, listen, we might

1631
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 5: be calling you this weekend. I was like, okay, great,

1632
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 5: call me whatever. It's the day before the show, and

1633
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 5: Scott Akerson, who's in charge of it, he goes, listen,

1634
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 5: you're going to be hosting the show. I was like what, Wow.

1635
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 5: He said, yeah, you're going to be hosting the show.

1636
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 5: And at the time, I had to cancel two vacations

1637
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 5: because of it, and my wife is like, they're always

1638
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 5: screwing you. They're asking you to do more work, and

1639
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 5: I was like, well, no, this might actually be a

1640
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 5: good thing, and sure enough it worked out. So it

1641
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,879
Speaker 5: was it literally came out of nowhere.

1642
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: That's unbelieving. That's unbelievable.

1643
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 3: What a job.

1644
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 4: The way to go in and justly them right out

1645
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 4: of there, and I.

1646
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 5: Will tell you so, I will tell you this. So

1647
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 5: the two guys, one of them called me and he said, listen, man,

1648
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 5: I knew you were going to knock out of the park.

1649
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 5: He left a great message and he said, I wish

1650
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 5: the best of luck. I want you to go crush it,

1651
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 5: go do your thing. And I barely talked to the

1652
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 5: other guy. He never said a word, and he blocked

1653
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 5: me on Twitter. You up like what I mean? I

1654
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 5: was like, I didn't do anything here. Yeah, it was weird.

1655
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 5: It was very very weird.

1656
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that is great.

1657
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: How for two that just it's unbelievable. That's it.

1658
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 4: Sometimes they'll that's how these things happen, right, And then

1659
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 4: you get out and you make the most of it

1660
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 4: and look at everything you're doing. Now, How did it

1661
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 4: come to be? Whose idea was it to get you

1662
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 4: guys back together at Fanatics Fest? Was it Fanatics?

1663
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 2: Was it?

1664
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 3: Was it the crew? How did this come to me?

1665
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 5: I think that Tom has a friend who either worked

1666
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 5: for Fanatics or closely with Fanatics and they mentioned it

1667
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 5: to Tom. Hey, what do you think about this possibility?

1668
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 5: And we've been for years trying to you know, we

1669
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 5: kicked around the idea of doing something, and when Tom

1670
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 5: sent out a message, he's like, hey, guys, are you available.

1671
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 5: You know, we all did whatever we could, and Kruck

1672
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 5: he gave it his best effort. But I don't know,

1673
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 5: ye I love I like the Phillies organization. They've always

1674
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 5: been good, but I'm I'm upset with them. I really

1675
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 5: wanted Kruck to be there because there would be days

1676
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 5: on the show where Kruck would barely say anything and

1677
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 5: still be the star. His faithful expressions, like the way

1678
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 5: he would roll his eyes just a little, you know,

1679
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 5: like the crank he was a cranky old man when

1680
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 5: he was just a cranky middle aged man. So he

1681
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 5: just was great to work with. And I loved it

1682
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 5: when he was on the show.

1683
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 2: What it seemed from the outside looking in, and I'm

1684
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 2: guessing when you guys got back together, it was a

1685
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: lot like riding a bike. It seemed like at times

1686
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 2: that you would forget that the cameras were on. And

1687
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 2: I mean that in the highest form of compliment, because

1688
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 2: it's almost like you guys were I always viewed it

1689
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 2: as and we tried to do this with various shows.

1690
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: This show. We tried to do that where you just

1691
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: hope it's a cool conversation that people are He's dropping

1692
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: in and being able to watch and be a part of.

1693
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 2: And that's what it seemed like. So I'm guessing when

1694
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: you guys got together, it was right back into it.

1695
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I.

1696
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 5: Mean, truth be told, this wasn't a show yesterday. It

1697
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 5: was more of a gathering. Like our show was great

1698
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 5: because we did have such good people behind the scenes

1699
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 5: that helped us prep interviews and really did a lot

1700
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 5: of digging when the information wasn't as readily available as

1701
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:07,919
Speaker 5: it is now, and so they created great, great content

1702
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 5: for us when we would have guests sit down or

1703
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 5: if there was a different sort of way to be

1704
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 5: able to change, you know, the talk of a topic.

1705
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 5: You see, even my dog was excited for our Seriously, Sidney,

1706
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 5: it's your brother, it's your brother.

1707
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 3: The guy's been flying all over the world.

1708
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 5: Stop Who's who is she barking at?

1709
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

1710
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 5: Will here? I gotta go in on another room. And

1711
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 5: that's sorry, guys. You know, my youngest son's leaving for

1712
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 5: college tomorrow, so it was his best buddy, we were

1713
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 5: two years older, hanging out today before they go their

1714
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 5: separate ways. So that's why the dog's barking because Will's

1715
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 5: here so ill?

1716
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: How are you doing with that? Dad with uh.

1717
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, it's gonna be hard. Like we've already taken

1718
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 5: one to college and then he quickly came back. But

1719
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 5: the younger one. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird when the like,

1720
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 5: your little baby, he'll always be my baby. My dad

1721
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 5: said the same thing about me. I was the youngest

1722
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 5: of four kids. He's like, you know, I was in

1723
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 5: my late thirties when he passed away or whatever. He's like,

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01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 5: you'll always be my baby. I don't care if you've

1725
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 5: got kids. So like, that part's hard, but I'm excited

1726
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 5: for him.

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01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 7: Uh.

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01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 5: He's a quiet kid. You guys have met him. He's

1729
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 5: kind of easy going for a teenager and pretty mature.

1730
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 5: So I think we're the only parents in the world

1731
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 5: who are like, hey, you know, it's okay to party

1732
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 5: in college. Go for it.

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01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 7: Good.

1734
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 5: Fine. I think the rest of it will be good.

1735
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 5: It's that part we're a little worried about.

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01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 3: Enjoy yourself. Yeah, that's right, it's going to be fun. Crazy.

1737
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 3: He's got a lot more flying.

1738
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 4: By the way, this is two weeks of incredible air

1739
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 4: travel for you.

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01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, but it's all good. It's all I will

1741
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 5: tell you this. So last night I had to fly

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01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 5: back to New York to do FanFest from Cleveland.

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, so did that.

1744
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 5: Did the FanFest, which was awesome. Caught a flight out

1745
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 5: of JFK. Right is all those thunderstorms that blew through

1746
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 5: Cleveland on Saturday night. We're coming to New York. So

1747
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, are we ever going

1748
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 5: to get out of here? We had to fly like

1749
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 5: halfway to London before we could turn west. I was like, guys,

1750
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 5: what are we doing here? So it was it was

1751
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 5: an interesting travel home. I'll get to see Nathan in

1752
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 5: Seattle for like maybe twenty four hours, and then hop

1753
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 5: on a red eye back to take Brady back to college,

1754
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 5: give him a big hug, and then head home back

1755
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 5: to LA. But I you know, listen, I'm never going

1756
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 5: to complain about the travel. I love what I do.

1757
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 5: I'm thankful I get to do these preseason games with you,

1758
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 5: and I think we're going to get to call some

1759
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 5: starters Nathan on Saturday.

1760
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, please knock on find something like we you

1761
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 2: rowed this?

1762
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 3: I think I think you guys are rowed this yeah,

1763
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 3: I would agree.

1764
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, we are, we are a little bit. All

1765
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 5: he was going to say is, like the last couple

1766
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 5: of years, we've got some fun preseason games like that

1767
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 5: one in Kansas City last year was freaking off, Like

1768
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 5: that was a that was really great to call and

1769
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 5: we got to see the starters for a while. This

1770
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 5: year it has been rough. Let's just call it what

1771
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 5: it is, man, it's been rough.

1772
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 4: Well, and then we went through i think at one

1773
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 4: point in the fourth quarter, and we listed the number

1774
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 4: of people that participated in that game that may play

1775
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 4: a role for the Cleveland Browns this season.

1776
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 3: And you could do that on one hand.

1777
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was you know so, and that's

1778
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 4: counting Pierre Strong, who played for two plays.

1779
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 7: You know, right.

1780
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah. There was certain safeties hadn't been there for a week.

1781
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 5: We had one guy who was dressed. He was a

1782
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 5: packer in the Browns stadium the week before and we

1783
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 5: signed him the day before and he was like our

1784
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 5: third safety and.

1785
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 3: He ended up playing eight place Coyle.

1786
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 4: We had another guy who hadn't been there a week,

1787
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 4: as Chris Chase Williams, who played what all the snaps

1788
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 4: but eight in the game. Coach Bondo's like, I haven't

1789
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 4: even seen anything. I've never had any experience with anything

1790
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 4: like this at any level. So yeah, it was it

1791
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 4: was wild. It was good to see dtr I thought

1792
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 4: it was really good to see Deontay Foreman. But yeah,

1793
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 4: it's this is the one. Now, this is the main event.

1794
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: It is a late start here, Brown's after dark Chris

1795
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 4: called it, i think on the broadcast, and so yeah,

1796
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 4: that's what we're we're looking forward to. But as you

1797
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 4: well know, you know, not a lot of great news

1798
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 4: coming out about you know, the potential return of our

1799
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 4: left tackles. It's it still feels like that is probably

1800
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 4: and it's a good thing overall, but that that is

1801
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 4: that this is by far the biggest most pressing issue.

1802
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 4: You know, last year, remember we were dealing with Kate York,

1803
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 4: we were dealing with you know, a lot of stuff,

1804
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 4: you know, on the offensive side of the ball. Now

1805
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 4: it's that one position. But you know, kind of how

1806
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 4: are you feeling going into this, And there's been a

1807
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 4: lot of talk locally about you know, do you even

1808
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 4: put de Shaun out there if he doesn't have a

1809
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 4: wills or a conklin In my answers, yeah, because at

1810
01:26:58,360 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 4: some point he's gonna have to play without them, most

1811
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:00,799
Speaker 4: likely in the regular season.

1812
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 5: Not only that, I mean you can chip with guys.

1813
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 5: You can put an extra tight end over there. Like

1814
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 5: it's not ideal, right, whoever we put over there is

1815
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 5: not going to be Trent Williams. Like, we understand that.

1816
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 5: So you're going to have to coach like that. Like,

1817
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 5: do you want to put Deshaun in Harm's way? No,

1818
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 5: But he also has not thrown a pass in the

1819
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 5: NFL since November. In a game setting, he has got

1820
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 5: to get out there, and he's got to run a

1821
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 5: bit of the offense. Like it's important that he gets

1822
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 5: out there. And by the way, good left tackles get

1823
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 5: beat too, and quarterbacks get hit. So if that's your philosophy,

1824
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 5: then why would we have played him last year against

1825
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs because he could have gotten hurt

1826
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 5: there too. Like, it is football, and it is important

1827
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,480
Speaker 5: that he gets out there, that he runs the operation.

1828
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 7: That's Kevin.

1829
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 5: Kevin's big term. Oh heck, it's that's like on page

1830
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 5: two of the NFL head Coach's handbooks.

1831
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and so.

1832
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, our guys need to get out there. Now, guys

1833
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 5: are dinged up a little bit. Then of course you

1834
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 5: don't put him out there, and Miles Garrett, I will

1835
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 5: personally put him in bubble wrap, like he does not

1836
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 5: need to see the field until Sunday at four twenty

1837
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 5: five on September eighth, you know, like I'll feed if

1838
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 5: he can lie down, we can get him a manny petty.

1839
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 5: We get whatever it is. I don't care that dude

1840
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 5: should not see a football field until September eighth, and

1841
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 5: then unleash him and let him go. But the rest

1842
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 5: of it, guys need to play.

1843
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: I agree. Hopefully we get that. I think we're going

1844
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 2: to get it on Saturday and look forward to you

1845
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: and you and Z on the call of some meeting

1846
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: for football. Appreciate you, my friend as always. And thanks

1847
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 2: for the walkdown memory Lane with best Damp.

1848
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:46,839
Speaker 3: That was awesome.

1849
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 5: No, I appreciate it. It's always fun. Sorry about the

1850
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 5: dog bark and I can't I can't get around.

1851
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 3: No worry about it.

1852
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 4: Control what you can control. That's on page two of

1853
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 4: the coach playbook.

1854
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely in between two and three. It kind of runs

1855
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 5: over from the bottom of one top of the other.

1856
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 5: All right, guys, always appreciate it.

1857
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 2: We'll catch up all right, all right, brother the Great

1858
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 2: Chris Rose on the Twisted Tea Hotline. So much more

1859
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,240
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Speaker 4: All right, We just wanted to take the last minute

1864
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 4: here to send our best to the McMullen family.

1865
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 3: Todd, Sarah, Colin, and Corey. They share. We give him

1866
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 3: a shout out. When they came to training camp, sent

1867
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 3: us a very nice note. We got nice little notes

1868
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 3: from the kids and everything. So we are wishing your

1869
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 3: family the best.

1870
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, for sure.

1871
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 4: Hopefully you guys can overcome everything you're dealing with and

1872
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,120
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Speaker 4: Brown's Go. Todd, you got this brother, Thank you guys.

1875
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 4: Lovely family, lovely incredibly nice handwritten. You don't get these anymore, Nope,

1876
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 4: very very kind, So Todd, Sarah.

1877
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 3: Colin, and Corey McMullen. We are certainly pulling for you guys.

1878
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely tomorrow we will be back out at training camp.

1879
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 2: That is a one thirty or two o'clock practice two

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Speaker 2: o'clock tomorrow tomorrow on Wednesday, so you'll have you'll have

1881
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 2: that to look forward to tomorrow, which is nice. The

1882
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