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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Ped Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with

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Speaker 2: you our special guest, Dan Harrari. His book is called

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Speaker 2: After They Came. His website is linked up at Coast

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Speaker 2: tocoastam dot com. Dan, you were talking about your trip

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Speaker 2: to James Gillilan's wrench in the state of Washington. I'll

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Speaker 2: let you finish that.

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Speaker 3: Up exactly right. So again to just to recap it

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Speaker 3: a little bit, he had given a lecture at Muffon

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Speaker 3: La about his ranch and showed very convincing videos and

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Speaker 3: films of UFOs and the sky there. So I took

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Speaker 3: a girlfriend and I we spent the three day weekends there.

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Speaker 3: This was the fourth of July weekend eight, two thousand

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Speaker 3: and eight. And again during the days there were guests,

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Speaker 3: speakers and films and slide shows and things. And then

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Speaker 3: at night, George, they built a bonfire in the field

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Speaker 3: there and people, men and women would be dancing around

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Speaker 3: a bonfire, playing guitars and playing tambourines. And believe it

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Speaker 3: or not, at O eight, I still had one of

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Speaker 3: those heavy video cam quarners. You know, they have on

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Speaker 3: with the VHS, the VHS tape, so you know, they

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Speaker 3: weighed what eight ten pounds, So I had that on

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Speaker 3: my shoulder and we're looking up in the sky. The

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Speaker 3: first night, Friday night, were for hours and hours and

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Speaker 3: we're looking up in the sky. Nothing. Nothing happened. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's fine. The next day, Saturday, same thing, lectures, guests, speakers, seminars,

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Speaker 3: all those things. The Saturday night, the bonfire, the guitars,

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Speaker 3: the tambourine on my camcuarder on my shoulder. We're looking

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Speaker 3: up hours and hours into the sky. Nothing and I'm

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Speaker 3: getting a little nervous, like, you know, I don't think

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Speaker 3: this is going to happen. The third and final day

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Speaker 3: was a Sunday. More lectures, films and seminars, build the bonfire.

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Speaker 3: I have the carder. I said to my girlfriend, I go,

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Speaker 3: barber Igo, you know what, if we leave early, we

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Speaker 3: can beat the traffic because there were probably three hundred

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Speaker 3: cars there. No sooner, George did I say that? Than

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Speaker 3: out of absolutely nowhere, I'd say, a medium sized craft,

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Speaker 3: maybe fifty sixty feet long, appeared above our heads from

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Speaker 3: out of absolutely nowhere. It was like a black teardrop.

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Speaker 3: Shaped craft. It was very dark, but it was directly

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Speaker 3: over our heads. And then the most amazing thing ever

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Speaker 3: my life. Under the craft, a very bright, dark emerald

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Speaker 3: green light came on under the craft, bright as bright

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Speaker 3: could be. It was the color like from the Wizard

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Speaker 3: above our heads, maybe a dozen times, on and off,

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Speaker 3: as if to say, hello, we're here, we love you,

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Speaker 3: and we know you've been waiting for U. We're in

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Speaker 3: the neighborhood. We wanted to say hello. And then George,

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Speaker 3: the thing it just took off. It vanished, It just

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Speaker 3: took off. I cried. I cried, everyone there cried, hugging, kissing,

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Speaker 3: dancing thing. It was a profound moment in my life.

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Speaker 3: And I can still feel in my heart the warmth

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Speaker 3: and the love and feeling that I got from whatever

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Speaker 3: that was. And I'm telling you that was not a

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Speaker 3: man made craft. That was that was not man made,

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Speaker 3: that was them.

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Speaker 2: No wonder you can get addicted to UFOs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when you have an experience that touches you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly feel that I've become Since that experience,

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Speaker 3: I've become a warmer person, a more open minded person,

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Speaker 3: more caring person. I was maybe more selfish than before

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Speaker 3: that happened. I feel dramatically changed as a human being

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Speaker 3: because I had that experience. And what I would tell

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Speaker 3: people young people now out there, you know, don't look

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Speaker 3: at your phone all the time. Don't look down at

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Speaker 3: you know, you never know.

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Speaker 2: Any look out that's right. Yeah. What do you think

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Speaker 2: of these balloons that we claim that we have shot

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Speaker 3: All right, so I have very strong opinion about this,

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Speaker 3: and thank you for asking me that one. Okay, in February,

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Speaker 3: as we all know, there was a Chinese, man made,

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Speaker 2: And one may have just done it over Hawaii today too.

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Speaker 3: I just heard that shortly. Yeah, I heard that a

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Speaker 3: the one that flew over the United States was clearly

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Speaker 3: And I don't know about you, but I saw them

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Speaker 3: as you know, George and most of your listeners probably know,

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Speaker 3: Three days in a row, the American military shot down UAPs.

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Speaker 3: a row. The pilots reported the first one as being

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Speaker 3: believed the second or third one was cylindrical. And for

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Speaker 3: whatever reason, the media and even President Biden I watched

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Speaker 3: them on TV. Balloons balloons, balloons, well you know yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think the other three were remarkable craft. And George,

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Speaker 3: they've never shown us the debris. They've never shown us

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Speaker 3: the video from the pilots that shot them down. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure there was video of the.

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Speaker 2: Pilot shooting, and you know they've recovered.

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Speaker 3: This stuff, of course. Yeah, that's another thing people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: you know, they probably couldn't have recovered it. They got

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Speaker 3: the China balloon out of the Atlantic Ocean. As far

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Speaker 3: the other three. Of course they did, they got them.

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Speaker 3: President Biden went on TV and said, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's been a lot of balloons going on, and then

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Speaker 3: you know, the China balloon, and you know, and then

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Speaker 3: the one over Alaska. I saw him do this. He said,

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Speaker 3: the one over Alaska, we believe was a balloon hobby

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Speaker 3: ones were probably balloons as well. George, you know, a

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Speaker 3: that way. And Georgia was watching President Biden, who I

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Speaker 3: actually admire, and I was thinking, Toman, Joe, you can

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Speaker 3: say right now to the world, Joe is just say,

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Speaker 3: we believe these three UAPs may not have been man made.

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Speaker 3: He said, No, it's balloons, balloons, balloons. I don't believe

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Speaker 3: they're balloons. A lot of people in upology that I've

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Speaker 2: But you're right, it has been very quiet after they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, where's the New York Times, where's CNN?

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Speaker 3: Where's even Fox or MSNBS? Where are the major outlets?

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Speaker 3: Why don't they go? Mister president? Okay, here's the thing

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Speaker 3: that's two months ago, almost three months ago, mister president,

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Speaker 3: you know what happened to those UAPs? Or here's the thing, George.

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Speaker 3: A few weeks ago, as you know, doctor Sean Kirkpatrick

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Speaker 3: did we recover the UAPs? Have they been studied? Do

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Speaker 3: you know what? There's not one question, George, not one

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Speaker 3: question about three UAPs that had just happened a few

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Speaker 3: There's no follow up China balloon, China balloon. These other

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Speaker 2: You know, these other three objects could have been UFOs

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Speaker 3: Can imagine? Could you imagine? Woudn't that be something? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean, whatever they were. Now, if they were Chinese

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Speaker 3: maybe they were our own craft. I don't think our

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Speaker 2: Me, not intentionally at least.

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Speaker 3: Right right, Although whoever runs the UFO cover up black

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Speaker 3: Nelly and didn't tell anybody else. I can't I personally,

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Speaker 2: As a publicist, who would you say? Dan has been

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Speaker 3: Well, my buddy Steven Spielberg would certainly come to mind.

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Speaker 3: I actually had the honor of meeting him at an

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Speaker 2: And it's a genius, just just.

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Speaker 3: I can. In twenty ten, Universal Studios had a rededication

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Speaker 3: Like it was like the Oscars, and it's just tons

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Speaker 3: talk to you, Arnold Arnold. Everyone there. George wanted Arnold.

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Speaker 3: I'm standing there next to Stephen Spielberg. No one else, George,

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Speaker 3: no one else was even looking at He wasn't literally

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Speaker 3: So I went up to him that this is a

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Speaker 3: funny story. Stephen's late mother, Leah Adler, had a kosher

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Speaker 3: et all right, he knows that the Jurassic Park was scary.

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Speaker 3: He knows that I go up, I go Stephen, my

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Speaker 2: Close Encounters of the Third kind et just remarkable work.

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Speaker 3: Close Encounters. I watched that movie once or twice a year.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, where's Dreyfus, by the way, hasn't in a movie

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Speaker 3: Boy, that's a good question. That's a really good question.

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Speaker 2: When I is he okay healthwise?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I do know that

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I should say this. I do

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Speaker 2: No, I heard that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a client who's one of his best friends.

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Speaker 2: You know, Michael Levine, the publicist.

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Speaker 3: I know who he is. We've crossed path.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good guy too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But Steven, Yeah, with close Encounters. I mean, every

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Speaker 3: time I watch that movie, I cry at the end.

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Speaker 3: It's so wonderful and so imaginative. I love when doctor

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Speaker 3: he's there with his pipe.

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Speaker 2: Yep, the real one, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was in that movie. I recently met

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Speaker 3: Paul Heinek at Alien Conn.

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Speaker 2: Paul's a great guy. His son, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have

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Speaker 2: you met Jacques Valet, No, no, I've not. He is

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Speaker 2: the one where in the movie Close Encounters, the French

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Speaker 3: Earl Gray Anderson is reading. I think it is a

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Speaker 3: Jock la something volume five or some book that he

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Speaker 3: just put out recently. It's supposed to be the ultimate

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Speaker 2: He does a great job. Well, let's tak some time

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Speaker 2: to talk about after they came. It's a novel. But

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Speaker 3: Okay? So when I came up with this premise, I

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Speaker 3: So I came up with a guy. I based this

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Speaker 3: his name is Jonathan Tuckerman. He lives in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: He has a business that's failing. His children don't speak

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Speaker 3: As he's drowning, an enormous UFO comes up from the

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Speaker 3: Pacific Ocean right above him. Huge enormous, beautiful diamond shaped

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Speaker 3: craft multicolored beams him on board slowly, then hovers over

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Speaker 3: We love mankind. We've been coming to Earth for ten

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Speaker 3: We are your allies. We want to help you cure

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Speaker 3: him to cure your problems. So any problems you have

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Speaker 3: the ship vanishes, this guy is lowered down to second base,

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Speaker 3: He's been on live global TV because of this craft

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Speaker 3: and these aliens, and everyone goes, who are you? Who

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Speaker 3: idea what's happening. I don't know. They take him to

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Speaker 3: the White House. He meets the President, George. When I

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Speaker 3: first wrote the first draft of this book twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 3: Oprah Winfrey there was a rumor she was going to

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Speaker 3: run for president. You might recall that.

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Speaker 3: So when I was first writing the outline, I thought,

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Speaker 3: you know what if Oprah Winfrey was the president, wouldn't

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Speaker 3: She's such a war wonderful person and everyone loves her.

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Speaker 3: So I based my president on on on Oprah.

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