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Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: your All Star weekend reactions. I think God mostly positive

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Speaker 1: coming out of this year. I think last year folks

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Speaker 1: were just so dejected by the lack of entertainment that

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Speaker 1: people was generally positive about it. But what was your Highlightea?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they they talked about.

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Speaker 3: I mean, everybody was buzzing at the game was actually competitive, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean three point Contest to me is always the

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Speaker 3: better contest. Skills, challenges, decent, they have like the old

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Speaker 3: guys with the new like young guys mixed it up.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty dope. I like that.

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Speaker 3: But the game itself is better now. Dunk Contest still

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Speaker 3: has a long way to go, but yeah, everything else

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Speaker 3: is kind of trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: What was the highlight for you of.

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Speaker 4: The highlight I got? You know, the game was competitive.

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Speaker 5: I didn't like that, although I like the old format

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Speaker 5: of east and West and and that nature. But what

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Speaker 5: I took from it is all the stuff that we've

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Speaker 5: been talking about the world versus the US. The world

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Speaker 5: didn't get a win. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And you know that's what we talked about. Maybe y'all

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Speaker 5: heavy at the time. They heavy at the top. They

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Speaker 5: got no legs, you know, they skipped leg day at

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Speaker 5: the top. Yeah, we seeing those guys at the gym,

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Speaker 5: they heavy at the top. It just goes to show

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Speaker 5: you that the world is as great as the world is.

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Speaker 5: We have more depth, Like you know, it don't matter

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Speaker 5: where you go, y'all could have I mean, I know,

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Speaker 5: but to their you know, excuse, they can say, well,

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Speaker 5: Shade didn't play yeah, and uh and well now Lucas

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Speaker 5: somebody else that didn't play out jokers, it could have

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Speaker 5: been a different outcome.

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Speaker 3: Minute because I know he was just coming back played.

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Speaker 3: Luca was kind of yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Both of those guys are like dealing with nagging injury,

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Speaker 1: so I understand what most SG.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it could have been different if they was there,

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Speaker 4: But I mean.

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Speaker 1: They lost, they lost their two games. They got smoked

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Speaker 1: and you know what, I the only thing I did

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Speaker 1: like about that World versus Us format is that I

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Speaker 1: know for a fact that there is a division amongst

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Speaker 1: the player Oh for sure, I know that like certain guys,

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Speaker 1: and I've heard this from multiple players, the American players

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Speaker 1: feel like, you know, media narratives and stuff like that

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Speaker 1: don't build around foreign guys the way that the same

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Speaker 1: thing would build around an American player. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and you just know some of the foreign guys like, oh,

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Speaker 1: these American guys aren't about the same things as US,

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Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah. I know there's a natural

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Speaker 1: rivalry there, so to watch it manifest on the court

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Speaker 1: is dope. And I mean, I think my favorite highlight

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Speaker 1: of the weekend was definitely just the old guys.

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Speaker 3: That's serious for sure, And I think that's where also

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Speaker 3: like there's a little separate like the old guys got

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Speaker 3: some of to prove against the young guys, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the league was moving the direction of young like not

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Speaker 3: really respecting the old guys and the young guys a

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Speaker 3: little disrespectful.

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Speaker 2: Man when it comes to I know and.

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Speaker 3: League, it's not just the League versus America, like the

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Speaker 3: World versus like, it's also the old versus the young,

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Speaker 3: like there was a little bit pride in that, so

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Speaker 3: I thought that was dope, But.

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Speaker 5: No, there was no pride in that. That last game

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Speaker 5: out of you just smoked. Yeah, that wasn't pride to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we should just have one freaking game,

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Speaker 1: you know, that'd be cool.

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't three games. It was twelve minutes. Remember that,

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Speaker 5: that's not a game, So that's not a game. That's

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Speaker 5: a quarter. And all of them didn't play the whole

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Speaker 5: twelve minutes, so that's not an excuse either they ran

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Speaker 5: out of gas, but playing one quarter, come on, two quarters.

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Speaker 1: And maybe maybe they came into the weekend. Do you

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Speaker 1: ever think about a road trip, and you'd be like, yo,

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Speaker 1: if we get three out of four, we're good, and

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Speaker 1: probably to the weekend like victory. Yeah, yeah, the two

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Speaker 1: victories whatever, we're good. We'll move on.

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Speaker 5: You're supposed to like these youngest. Let's smack them up

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Speaker 5: one more time, one more time. Let's give him this

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Speaker 5: ask before we out the door. K D Broad and

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Speaker 5: you know Steph sitting over there, it's supposed to be

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Speaker 5: one of them one more times, whole or not one

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Speaker 5: more time, but just let.

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Speaker 4: Me just show y'all before we out the door.

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Speaker 1: Facts.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: Quick question.

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Speaker 6: Has anybody checked on Jason Richardson?

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Speaker 2: Is he good?

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Speaker 1: Is he okay?

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Speaker 2: I hope so, man see that thing. I think his

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Speaker 2: pride has hurt more than.

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Speaker 1: Any I saw that. Jesus helpless.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was aam That was more of

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Speaker 3: an embarrassing moment than anything. But yeah, he had to

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Speaker 3: pop back up to me. Was that rich climbing fault

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Speaker 3: the past?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Nah, okay, No, I'm not gonna blame the pastor even

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Speaker 3: if it's a bad pass, you can still kind of

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Speaker 3: control yourself to not look at it.

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Speaker 4: Was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, damn.

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Speaker 5: Like what I think what people saw this thing was

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Speaker 5: like all right, you know, jeezu content away with it.

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Speaker 5: I think everybody was just like like when they first

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Speaker 5: saw that, and I hope you all right, but when

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Speaker 5: you saw that, he was like, you know, I'm done

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Speaker 2: It was messed up.

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Speaker 1: And what's messed up is that there were good dunks executed,

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Speaker 1: but this is the image that's coming out of the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the really.

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Speaker 5: Nasty misses, like when we saw these two ducks. Was

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Speaker 5: it's time to end it, Jackson, It's time.

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Speaker 2: They run that back. Bro. That was his first dunk.

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Speaker 2: Oh lord, that was it.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out going on. I thought Jackson

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Speaker 3: was gonna come with a little bit more heat.

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Speaker 2: Bro. That's crazy. You're gonna least they between the legs

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Speaker 2: and like something.

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Speaker 4: Bro, you're supposed to wind mail that one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah out there?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean six eleven six seven feet you're supposed

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Speaker 7: to win mail that.

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Speaker 3: I think he lost it by accident, tried to do something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he tried to do. Maybe talk

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Speaker 3: to the press after and let us know, like what.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's cool.

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Speaker 1: It was cool though.

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Speaker 4: Thank god for everybody at the dunk all this was early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Because you got a Saturday there miss dinner playing all that,

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Speaker 5: you would be hot. I know I would have been

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Speaker 5: hot if I win. And then it was later and man,

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Speaker 5: can we fix it?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: The dunk context.

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Speaker 6: The only way to fix is with famous people in it.

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Speaker 1: Over.

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Speaker 3: If you don't have people like Edwards, Okay, top NBA

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Speaker 3: got yes, Top no influence.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, hell no, I'm talking about famous NBA

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Speaker 1: players Okay, okay, popular star NBA.

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Speaker 3: Players and they gotta take it serious. Yes, how do

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Speaker 3: we do that? What incentives? We gotta get them that?

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Speaker 1: No more?

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Speaker 5: Because the best players back in the day were the

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Speaker 5: best dunkers. Also yea, yeah, it's not like that no more.

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Speaker 3: Mean you still got you still got John Marin.

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Speaker 5: We talked about early two thousands, like like ron Lebron

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Speaker 5: should have been in it. H you know, like like

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Speaker 5: Cop Vince Carter, you had like the stars stars in it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, very early on in their career,

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Speaker 5: early in their career.

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Speaker 3: Like kind of like the last person that was an

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Speaker 3: All Start that participated was John Waller twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: That was also that year.

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Speaker 3: But the last person that wanted that became an All

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Speaker 3: Star after was Donovan Mitchell. I think that was twenty nineteen. Wow,

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Speaker 3: so that was years before he came All Star.

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Speaker 2: So that was seven years ago.

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Speaker 1: Like even if it's not I think it should be Edwards,

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Speaker 1: but like the Thompson Twins, like these guys.

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Speaker 4: That still won't, it's like it's gotta be the star

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Speaker 4: of what.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like they gotta be the lowest one.

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Speaker 3: They got a little buzz though, they got a buzzer

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Speaker 3: people wan to see becausey see how athletic, not like.

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Speaker 5: Zion Like you want to know, we're talking about getting

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Speaker 5: the dunk contest like Zion Job. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: It's gotta be them guys is all stars have been

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Speaker 5: all stars and they stars.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of them I'm thinking, like who else

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Speaker 1: Zion Job we just gonna get Yeah, all right, now

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 7: That's the top three that we don't need no more. No,

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Speaker 7: we don't need to dunkers three? Three? But how long

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Speaker 7: is the event gonna last?

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Speaker 1: Poll? You know they gotta sell ship.

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Speaker 2: They gotta go the second round.

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Speaker 4: Bro, we're gonna go three dunkers. Y'all got ten dunks.

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Speaker 5: Each that dunk two rounds, you got more than three

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Speaker 5: donkys non time.

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Speaker 3: I think you would get three dunks to each. Right,

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Speaker 3: So like you do like three, like we do three rounds.

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Speaker 3: You did your first dunk, you gotta have seven, then

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Speaker 3: you eliminate three or four, go to the next round

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Speaker 3: in the top three in that second round this is

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Speaker 3: how and then may be a dunk off in that

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Speaker 3: last round.

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Speaker 2: The last two.

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Speaker 5: This is all I get the three guys. You guys,

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Speaker 5: after ten dunks, there's no going to the finals. We're

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Speaker 5: gonna see the final score. Ten dunks is crazy and

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Speaker 5: the final score that's it. That's a lot of dunks.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna cover the hours.

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Speaker 4: That's all right.

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Speaker 5: We still gotta give them the score. It's about the score,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I think you give them three, maybe four.

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Speaker 4: If you ain't got ten dunks.

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Speaker 2: In this climate, everything has been done almost them now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're gonna doc if you make them.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is make What I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: when I say like the Thompson Twins, because Zach Lavigne

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Speaker 1: was a multi All Star guy when or or neither

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Speaker 1: was Aaron Gordon. They were great dunkers, athletic and it

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Speaker 1: wore people that you could actually recognize. People don't know

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Speaker 1: who Jace Richardson is. Bro Like, nobody's ever heard of him.

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Speaker 1: When Klung is more famous than him.

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Speaker 3: Even young boy that want it, it's not like they

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Speaker 3: really know who he is.

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Speaker 1: You just got it. And again, I think it's just

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Speaker 2: When it comes to participating.

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Speaker 2: That's how you got to fix.

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Speaker 3: You gotta pay, You gotta pay because right now the

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Speaker 1: Edwards needs more money to dunk.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna put me on a lot he makes

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Speaker 3: I don't need to do it. If you want me

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Speaker 1: A crazy way to look at it, though, Danny to

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like Vince Carter's participation in this stuff

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Speaker 3: Sure, but I think they again, they did it before

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Speaker 3: know what, I'm saying that the notoriety like Zach Levine

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Speaker 1: I sure, I guess maybe if you feel like I'm

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Speaker 3: I just don't need to build my brand. I don't

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Speaker 6: But what about the brand of the league?

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Speaker 2: Why do I care about the brand of Like that's

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Speaker 3: Care about my brand. No, but Danny, obviously I'm speaking

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Speaker 6: But that's crazy, Like that's not even logic.

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Speaker 3: The league is making a lot of money off of

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Speaker 6: A percentage of what the league brings in for money.

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Speaker 1: Like the idea that All Star is some big pot

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Speaker 3: One hundred and six thousand dollars for the winner. That's

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Speaker 3: what the winner makes on the dunk contest. Sure, but

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Speaker 2: Do you think.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not talking about the individual prize. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think most of the guys money they get is

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Speaker 3: I it is, well, give you a boost from me

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Speaker 2: I feel like the NBA is not really.

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Speaker 1: This is the money, Danny, is your TV contract?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Most of the money that is generated is like the

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Speaker 6: They're paying for the NBA as a product.

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Speaker 1: Why are you not? Why would you not want to

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, I'm not just but because by what

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Speaker 3: I need to. I don't need to. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Dunk Contest is not gonna make or break

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think it's all of

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Speaker 3: Though I like, I think it helps, it can help,

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Speaker 3: but again I think, listen, you gotta have it more

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Speaker 4: It's not even that. It's like, think about this.

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Speaker 5: The guys back in the day when like you know, Vince,

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Speaker 5: and you know the endorsement money, could you know outweigh

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What I say about that

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Speaker 1: here's what I'll say about that, and I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: the league is less popular than it was ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: It's just the fact twenty sixteen NBA was. I don't

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Speaker 2: How do we get the big two?

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Speaker 1: He deals if that's the case, because sports is still

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Speaker 6: Valuable in that way.

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Speaker 1: But what I will say is when people are like, y'all,

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Speaker 1: You see how the TV money keeps going up, Like

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Speaker 3: The bag of the league bro again selfishly the rebuttal

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Speaker 3: I got for you is back then what he was

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Speaker 3: much bigger now. It's like the NBA is a great plus.

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Speaker 3: They can do a lot without.

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Speaker 1: Understand on an individual level. Thinking about the league individually

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Speaker 2: I guess no.

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Speaker 3: But again there's the reason why the league, the NBA,

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Speaker 3: A lot of players they they don't they care about

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Speaker 3: Association maybe, So why would I do favors for the league.

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Speaker 2: They ain't doing me no favors.

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Speaker 3: Man, that's how they That's how I'm saying they're looking

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Speaker 3: at it. I'm not saying that that was my.

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Speaker 1: Your nose despite your face however, that that I guess.

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Speaker 3: But it's like, Yo, you're paying me because of what

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Speaker 3: you what I can do, what I bring to the table. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: why would I take less of myself and to do

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think if you're twelve years old.

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Speaker 1: I think if you're twelve years old and your goal

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Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, bro, But again, a lot

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Speaker 2: This is also they don't have to know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: It's like, oh, they're just doing All Star this certain way.

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about like when people talk to me

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Speaker 6: And you know, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Dunk Contest is one thing. To be honest, if they

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Speaker 3: But they need to bring it back, man. They need

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Speaker 1: So your thing is like, let's just make it a

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Speaker 2: You have to.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he said, these guys brand like fucking what's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to get them to do something, you

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Speaker 3: participate if I want to be a three point contest champion. Cool, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's an honor to do that. These guys don't. Some

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Speaker 3: you need to be a dunk champion. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 6: I don't disagree with none of that.

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Speaker 1: Like again, I understand, I follow that logic on a

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Speaker 1: Like that number that they agree to is part of

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Speaker 2: I'm with you again.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just one small thing in the grand

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Speaker 3: only want to do the media read on.

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00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 2: He was that's part of.

447
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: It, and I think that's crazy.

448
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 2: But some guys want to hoop. Some guys want to hoop.

449
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe one on one is a lot more.

450
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 3: Who wanted dunk? What's the kids name from Miami, right,

451
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 3: what's his name? Yeah?

452
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 1: Because wide receiver, Hey Shod Johnson.

453
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, yeah, one on one.

454
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: I think you know again, people got to take a

455
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: lot of pride in one on ones.

456
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 2: That's another brand thing, bro, Like, I mean, you.

457
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 5: Gonna get the nobody Like, nobody wants to get embarrassed

458
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 5: at the superstar level because if you do something tricky

459
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 5: or get crossed, it's gonna get played forever.

460
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 4: If you get dunked on. It's the same as the

461
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 4: dunk contest.

462
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 5: Why if if I'm gonna get clipped, like like we're

463
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 5: gonna be watching this clip from The Young Guy Dunk

464
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 5: and just imagine if that was one of our stars

465
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 5: looking at that, that'll hurt their ego, Like they don't

466
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 5: want to.

467
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: Go out there as well, and not one on one player,

468
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

469
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 3: And again I go back to like people look at

470
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: the highlights. It looks good in highlights, because most people

471
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,959
Speaker 3: don't see it a one on one like Land Stevens

472
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: and Michael. It takes time and it gets ugly. It's ugly,

473
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 3: possession posting the tire, MoU foulon might cuts out, the

474
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 3: ref might walk off the court, not the sign plan

475
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 3: and you call them bullshit. You know they don't need

476
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 3: to do it, so like again, it's also part of

477
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 3: their brand that they ain't trying to like I don't

478
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 3: need to do No want to want to hurt my

479
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 3: brand out there, like yeah, right, I don't.

480
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 8: Believe when they no, I believe, I believe.

481
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: I believe.

482
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 3: I believe Wenby the only person I believe it's Wemby,

483
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 3: And maybe I believe some of the.

484
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 6: Younger guys last hope guys.

485
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 3: I don't know everybody else, nah, bro like no, and

486
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 3: it's not even a one on one player like that,

487
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Certain guys aren't one on one players like that.

488
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 6: But I think fans will want to see Wemby and

489
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 6: go at it.

490
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: It'll be an ugly ass game. Be competitive though, for sure,

491
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: but it's gonna be like thirty minutes.

492
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't like.

493
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't.

494
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: I think we overrate how much fans care about like

495
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: the beauty of a game. They wanted to be competitive, yeah,

496
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: like yo, these guys are dying to win.

497
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: I feel like the young fans would really like that

498
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: because like games, it's like older fans.

499
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck is I don't think so, bro.

500
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: I really do think if people saw Wemby and Nis

501
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: going at it one on one and they were both

502
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: taking it serious and we're being highly competitive, people would

503
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: be into that.

504
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 3: I challenge you to go home and watch YouTube some

505
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: one on one, like just watch a full one on one.

506
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: But but that's not what is It don't matter, it's

507
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna big schedule.

508
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 3: Watch the top one on one guys that do it,

509
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: just watch go and find the top.

510
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 4: That's not the same as NBA. It still will never

511
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 4: be the same. It's not just some street ship. They

512
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 4: don't call found.

513
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: It looks ugly.

514
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: They got some got some repar I challenged you to

515
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 3: watch the Top and for like one on one, it'll

516
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: be different stars influencers. Though it's a one on one,

517
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: it's so one on one.

518
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna be different names and it's gonna be a

519
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: little different. But bro, it's gonna get that ugly.

520
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: Do you think watching Yannis versus Wenby would be the

521
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: same as watching just too random influence.

522
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying the one on one is gonna go. It's

523
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: a long game and it gets fucking ugly. There's gonna

524
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: be fouls, there's gonna be more fuckers tripping and falling.

525
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 3: I gonna look like a baby deer toimes, like what the.

526
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: I look at it differently. I look at it like

527
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: something like Drake and Kendrick battling and battle rappers. More

528
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: people is the battling, but more people care about what

529
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: Drake and Kendrick are doing because there's stars. It's more

530
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: so invested in the stars.

531
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Speaker 3: Good analogy, but it's not there. That's it's not fitting.

532
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: It's more like steam freestyle. See them go freestyle against

533
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 3: each other. Ye, it's gonna be it's gonna get ugly.

534
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's nigga Drake only you need this BlackBerry.

535
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 6: People would love that.

536
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: People I'm not seeing niggas not having some good bars.

537
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: Think these guys.

538
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think they're gonna sound like

539
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: some ship and I'm not with that.

540
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: I don't.

541
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I want punchlines at the punch going tune up.

542
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Give me a bar saying that. But like when being Yannis,

543
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: it's not like they haven't honed their skills at basketball

544
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: and one on one play.

545
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: I just again, I think the analogies is just a

546
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: look like if.

547
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: Really put this kid in the basket four times in

548
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: a row and yelled at him and cursed him out on.

549
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 3: That, it's gonna be a lot of fouling pretty much.

550
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: That ain't exciting. That ain't exciting to me, man.

551
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: So you just don't want to see one on ones

552
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: you're just not a fan.

553
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,239
Speaker 3: People think it's gonna be mixed in the bag like

554
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: that's what people that's what they picture.

555
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be. That's what I'm trying to tell you,

556
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be.

557
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: That.

558
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody letting that ship happen? Bro, You're really gonna

559
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: let Kyrie dance out there?

560
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: Fuck out here? No I'm fouling that nigga. Like what,

561
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be pretty, that's what It's gonna be. Ugly, bro.

562
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: So I know it's different from the influence, But watch

563
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 3: the motherfuckers play. They play hard, they competitive, and they foul.

564
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: They be grabbing shirts, be getting ripped up, and ship

565
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: niggas be twelve travels cuts out the ref It's good.

566
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: I think if Wemby's shirt jersey.

567
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: And actually playing, they're playing for some money, bro. They

568
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 3: playing for Those dudes are like starving for bread. These

569
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: motherfuckers don't got to.

570
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: Like if when be came up to one on one

571
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: with mad scars and battle.

572
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: Wounds, that's cool to see, But teams we watch.

573
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: It more upset with it than fans. I think teams

574
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: would be like, Bro, I'm not gonna be taking hard

575
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: fouls against Giannison. A freaking exhibition is crazy.

576
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: I'm not excited to see people get bullied. I want

577
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: to see some good basketball, like okay moves. If we

578
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: could play moves without foulton, Bro, that's cool. That ain't happening.

579
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: You'll see they're gonna be fucking jail.

580
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 5: But it depends on how you lay the rules down like

581
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 5: three dribbles.

582
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: Each foul is.

583
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 5: A point you know what I'm saying, two thousand point

584
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 5: much foul as a point point on the quarterback of

585
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 5: one fou.

586
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 4: So it don't turn into what you're talking about.

587
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 6: Gotta punish guys.

588
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 5: That's that's a pillowy one point. If you foul, it's

589
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 5: like it gots based on the rules. If you implement

590
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 5: the right rules, that can be good.

591
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: That that will help. Yeah, let the motherfucker get foul

592
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: call that he don't like.

593
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: But that's the point.

594
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: How you're gonna have to really play defense.

595
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: Doesn't happen in a real game.

596
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: You get foul calls and an All Star one and

597
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: the one on one in an All Star weekend. I'm

598
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: walking the funk off. If the reference ain't called my foul,

599
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: you're a quitter, not me. If I'm one of them.

600
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: If I'm one of them, I feel like I'm getting embarrassed.

601
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting hold I just think you're co signing an

602
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: attitude yourself. Don't.

603
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I don't, but I'm not. I'm trying to tell

604
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: you these guys are they're different than me.

605
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: It's different. We're older, we're growing a different era.

606
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 6: You just don't believe in the mentality you do.

607
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: Look, I think in any.

608
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: The guys that contact you believe in that mentality.

609
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: I think in any situation, the right situation, these guys

610
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: are super competitive and want to win. And I think

611
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: that's going to be entertaining.

612
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 3: To unless there's money on the line. I don't believe it, Bro,

613
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: and it better be a good incentive.

614
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: So face to the league, young guy attitude. This is

615
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: a perfect segue. People are asking after Lebron and Steph

616
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: and KD and you know, the eldest statesmans retires, who's

617
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: going to be the face of the league? And Wenby

618
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: had two different reactions to that entire conversation. Let's let's

619
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: see the reactions.

620
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 5: How do you view the status of being potentially the

621
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 5: next face of this league?

622
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: Oh?

623
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: Of course, definitely see it happening.

624
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 9: I think it's the natural course of things, you know,

625
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 9: supplying the mend you know, and I'm here to supply

626
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 9: that's it.

627
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: But Lebron closed for retirement, have you given any more

628
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: thought into whether you'd like to become the future face

629
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: of the league? Man? No, folks got Wayne by Yama.

630
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 9: Now what they got going on?

631
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: They got women, Yama, they'll be a.

632
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna for ever be a goofy motherfucker you funny

633
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 3: and shit. But he's charismatic, you know, I'm saying that's

634
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: why people are drawn to him.

635
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Got the commercials.

636
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll eventually, I'm saying he'll grow up and

637
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: be more mature. But he's just like he having fun.

638
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: He hoping, he love it. He loved to compete. He

639
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: ain't gonna say it, but I feel like when he

640
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: stepped on that court, he gonna play like it, you

641
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

642
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think and for some reason has like an

643
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: issue with just the title.

644
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, because.

645
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: Give him the belt how you know what I'm saying,

646
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: he's gonna dog, you know, disrespect the old heads. You

647
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: gonna whoever on the court, you can try to beat

648
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: everybody down.

649
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: I think he just hates the title face of the league.

650
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 3: He don't want the magnifying glass of pressure of like

651
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: every day be responsible, Like I have to be responsible

652
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: for being the face.

653
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: Of the league.

654
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 5: You know how we're trying to force it on guys

655
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 5: now where I think you know, it's really something that's

656
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 5: organically given and we saw it coming like we saw

657
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 5: it when like when Lebron was coming to them, the

658
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 5: build up of him coming to the league was to

659
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 5: be the face. The build up with Magic, the build

660
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 5: up with Jordan's coming in because you gotta know, Jordan

661
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 5: won the national championship Winter Olympics beat all all In

662
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 5: was like, this is gonna be the guy. And we're

663
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 5: saying that about Wemby. We anticipated his arrival two years

664
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 5: before he got here, right, it was just like, hold on,

665
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 5: it's this guy had coming to the league. So that's

666
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 5: the common denominator when we talk about who the face

667
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: is gonna be, like, it ain't somebody we just said, oh,

668
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 5: you know, he can be.

669
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: It's never been that way.

670
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 5: Unless we gotta change how we look at it now,

671
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 5: maybe there won't be no face of the league. But

672
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 5: then if anybody who fits the bill and being the

673
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 5: next face, it's Wemby, regardless if he's from wherever, he's

674
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: from France or wherever. It was a guy that you

675
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 5: saw years before he even got to the league. And

676
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 5: it's always been that way. It ain't nobody just like,

677
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 5: oh damn, he's the person of the league now, because

678
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 5: if it was that, we would we would have said

679
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 5: Jason Tatum when he won the when he won the championship,

680
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 5: he got a shoe, he got commercials, he got a

681
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 5: championship Olympic tin.

682
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: Why wasn't he the face of the league. He's the

683
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: best American at the.

684
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 5: Time, Like we didn't and it is like we don't

685
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: crown him that that this anticipation has to have built

686
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 5: up way before he even comes to the league. And

687
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 5: the only guy that fits that is Winby Now we

688
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 5: said that about the next guy who could be Alivee

689
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 5: s Cooper Flag, you know, because his build up coming

690
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 5: into the league.

691
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: So it ain't.

692
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: Nobody agent Debon to like those guys that have come out.

693
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 4: We ain't got nobody as Americans like that right now.

694
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: No.

695
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: I mean for me, I like Kid a lot. I

696
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: think he's a couple of years away from it. But

697
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: you're talking about outside of Americans. I feel like some

698
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: of those guys that built their way up, like Jokic,

699
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: SGA checking round pick, but like he could have easily

700
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: been like MVP last.

701
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: Four years that I'm still not gonna make it the MVP.

702
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: You got multiple face. I feel like you have multiple faces.

703
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: But with the talent we got in the league to

704
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: that you have multiple people that could represent the league.

705
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 5: Now they can still become face of the league, but

706
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 5: there's there's always gonna be that one guy, and then

707
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 5: you got other guys that helped carry that mantle. Like

708
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 5: if Winby becomes face to the league, then we're gonna say, Okay,

709
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 5: the face of the league is Winby and such and

710
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 5: such and such.

711
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 4: The same thing we did with Curry.

712
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 5: We put Curry on the side of Lebron when he

713
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 5: started winning, though we didn't say this about And when

714
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 5: he started winning. So it's gonna be interesting to see

715
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: now if Wenby wins it this year, he would undeniably

716
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 5: be the face of the league.

717
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: I think Wenby. The one thing about him is different

718
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: from you know, you talk about the mentality as some

719
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: of the younger guys, is that he's clearly invested in

720
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: what gets fans excited about the game. Obviously you could

721
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: tell he's doing a bit of brand management as well,

722
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: but like, for instance, he started this fan club, Like

723
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, he comes from France where there's an ultra's culture,

724
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: like these mega soccer fans over there, and he was like,

725
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: I want to develop that in San Antonio and he

726
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: himself got involved because he knew fans would get hyped

727
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: about it, about starting this type of ultras kind of

728
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: club in San Antonio, because Wenby's directly involved in it,

729
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: and that, to me, that's just mentality as somebody's like,

730
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: how do I get fans geeked? Not how do I

731
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: set up myself to get a Remova suitcase suitcase fucking

732
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: brand endorsement, which is not the same as getting fans,

733
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, excited about the game. It's good for you personally,

734
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: which shouts to you. You get endorsements, maybe some nice

735
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 1: watch company or Louis Vauton to call you someday and

736
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: make you a model, and that's good for you. Basketball

737
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: fans don't give a fuck about that. And so that's

738
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: what I think is dope about Wemby is like he's

739
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: worried about what NBA fans want to see and hear

740
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: from NBA stars. And to me, that's the difference between

741
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: a guy being like, yeah, fuck loyalty. That's like, no

742
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: fan wants to hear that shit, even if it's true. Like,

743
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: you gotta approach your job as what it is. It's

744
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: selling an entertainment product. You have to make people want

745
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: to watch your games. Talking about your fucking business management

746
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: and acumen is fucking crazy. They don't make fans hype

747
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: for basketball. And that's why I love about Wemby.

748
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: That's an overseas thing because you know, like when you

749
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: play over there, like a lot of their funding is

750
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: from like the fan base.

751
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of it is Lebron's.

752
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: All of their funding is from like we play overseas,

753
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: Like all.

754
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: Right, I don't want to say it's Lebron's fault. I

755
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: think Lebron's influence is playing a role here in the

756
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 1: sense that like because we've exalted Lebron as the the

757
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: first billionaire NBA player and how they and the business

758
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: and the production cut and we've like praised them for it,

759
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: like in the press, I think players got in their

760
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: mind that like that's the model I should follow.

761
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, which it has always been business most

762
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: But what.

763
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like that ship came like ten years

764
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: into Lebron's career.

765
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 6: Bro, Like he spent a lot of time just doing

766
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 6: fan service.

767
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, and you gotta I think you gotta

768
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: freaking take the fans seriously. I know that's crazy. But

769
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: like I thought that like most back in the days

770
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: players just understood that was Like, Now, I wonder, like,

771
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: do these people even think about fans at all?

772
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 6: You know, when they're interacting with the.

773
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: Public, and it just feels like Wenby's like, nah, man,

774
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: I want to get fans hype. Yeah, I'll be the

775
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: face of the league. Yeah, I'm gonna get people hyped

776
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: about my games. I'm gonna talk shit, I'm gonna I'm

777
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna be like yeah, Oklahoma City. Yeah, we put a

778
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: target on them. Yeah, we see them as as a problem.

779
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: It's our competition. We want to kill those guys. He's

780
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: talking about the freaking game of basketball.

781
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 4: He's building towards that. So what's that.

782
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: When Paul and them were ragging on Lebron and you know,

783
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, like these fierce matchups in the playoffs, and

784
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: Paul is like, yeah, man, he had the run of Miami,

785
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: him and KG, and so fans are like, the next

786
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: time these guys play, fans are caring about that. Paul's

787
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: not talking about yo, man, you know, it'd be dope

788
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: if I got a sunglasses deal one day. No fan

789
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: kids a fuck about that, bro, straight up and down

790
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: and that's that's like the drum that I'm being It's like, yeah,

791
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: I want these guys to get paid, bro, but like

792
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: I want you to sell the freaking game to at

793
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: least try.

794
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: To speaking of the face of the league, you know,

795
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: and Wemby and had a hot mic.

796
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: What do you say? I don't know.

797
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 2: He got caught on a hot.

798
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: Mic saying we got the clip, We've got the clip.

799
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait to go. Yeah, the hot mic. It's

800
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: a stretch.

801
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: Gosh, yeah, hmm.

802
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: I think it's a reach. I mean it's also our break.

803
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: He gets his break, he wants to go home for all.

804
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean I want to go to Atlanta and

805
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: play for the Atlanta Hawks. So I think it's a

806
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 3: reach as a stretch. I don't think Minnesota fan should

807
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 3: be concerned about him, leave him trying to be part.

808
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Of the hall. So because of the sequence of the

809
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: words that he said and me knowing what I know

810
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: about it, when he said wings, I thought he was

811
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: talking about like chicken wings and strip clubs.

812
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: Many wings. Everybody thought the same.

813
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: Ship.

814
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 4: Everybody know Atlanta and the strip clubs know for.

815
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: The Wings boy, and you know he's a strip club connoisseur.

816
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: In case people didn't know that about it, He's he.

817
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: Lives his life.

818
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he.

819
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: Doesn't hide he's hide from it at all. He lets

820
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: you know, I'm living my.

821
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: Life, right. But yeah, I just don't. I don't see

822
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: this as a true threat to the Tens, do you?

823
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: No?

824
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: Not?

825
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: Atlanta not only hear Like now, if they had a

826
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: real chance at winning, they turned around and they were like, oh,

827
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: I could be the faces and I could actually go

828
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: around and win the championship. Maybe, but right now, nah,

829
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: Atlanta's They've done some good things, but they still have

830
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: some work to do.

831
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: Also, I want to ask both of you guys about this,

832
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: like when you guys were on your respective teams, cause like,

833
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: did guys talk about like, man, you know, I'm gonna

834
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: come fuck with y'all right, and it just never happened?

835
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Is that not something that like that feels like in

836
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: the heat of the moment, somebody could say.

837
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: Like, it doesn't happen like that. Usually, like they'll ask yo,

838
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: how They'll ask how about the city? How you like

839
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: it over how you like if it's during close to

840
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: their free agency years, you know what I'm saying, Like

841
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: they might ask some questions got you in that sense,

842
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: or even after it happens after they signed back somewhere,

843
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: like I was trying to get to where y'all was at,

844
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: but just didn't happen. They didn't come with you know,

845
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: the correct bread or what name came too much bread?

846
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: I just couldn't leave, got you. But yeah, never I've

847
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: never experienced.

848
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 6: It like somebody be like, yo, I'm coming to San Antonio.

849
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: It's just not like that.

850
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: Something they'll hint that I could definitely fuck with playing

851
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: over here?

852
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: How is it? How is it over there?

853
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: These It does happen because these conversations take place.

854
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: At the Olympics and summertime, these places.

855
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 5: These conversations take place at the All Star Game, you know,

856
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 5: amongst stars, when they're in that locker room or or

857
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: you know, on the court and hanging out. It just

858
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 5: it takes place in those moments. It really in the game.

859
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: During the season, it may take place if you got

860
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 5: a start on a losing team and another star might like, hey,

861
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 5: you need to come round with us. That type of

862
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 5: conversation may be here, but the team enough and I

863
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 5: need to be there All Star Olympics, and I don't know,

864
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 5: maybe a summer gathering. What I'm saying this is when

865
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 5: those conversations do take place.

866
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: Copy all right, man, Thursday night hoops. The NBA is

867
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: fire back games that matter, big game coming up. Pistons

868
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: at the Knicks. Pistons looking like the class of the

869
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. I don't know how you even see it

870
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: any other way in terms.

871
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: Of they got the number one record in the league

872
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: right now.

873
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: Best racing in the league point differentially.

874
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: Okay, see lost the other game other day, so that

875
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: behind Detroit half a game or something.

876
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: Wow, best record point differential of straight up historically like

877
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: you and that point differential, you a championship contender. They

878
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: got the star. They're beating people up, literally getting into

879
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: fights and beating people up.

880
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: They got to proven playoffs, honestly, so they do.

881
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: But I think this is a big game for the Knicks,

882
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: especially listening test wise. Yeah, super big statement game. I

883
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: know the Garden is going to be rocking. Jalen Brunton,

884
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: I think is gonna be ready to meet the challenge.

885
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: So I definitely think he'll have more than twenty six

886
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: and a half points in this game. For sure.

887
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go less for JV.

888
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna hoop, but I think it's gonna

889
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: be like they've been playing some good team basketball, got Stafford,

890
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

891
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: Don't think he's gonna do it alone the ball game more.

892
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go more with Jalen Bronson because I think

893
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 5: he's gonna have to do more and he's at home.

894
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: I mean, they've taken some mass whoopings from Detroit the

895
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 5: last and I think he has a sense of pride

896
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 5: about itself. I think he'll have more.

897
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 6: Kate Cunningham more or less than twenty four and.

898
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: A half, I'm gonna go more, definitely more guys.

899
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: Guys are suspended.

900
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: He remembers every time he plays them what they did

901
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: to him in the playoffs.

902
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: He's not happy about it.

903
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: Big Garden crowd.

904
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they felt they got a little cheated. He also

905
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: in his first playoff series, crunch Time, he had to

906
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: learn a think or two. So far this year, I

907
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 3: think he's been clutch player of the Year and anytime

908
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: he sees that Nick uniform, he ain't forgetting this.

909
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: More than twenty four and a half more than twenty Yeah, I'm.

910
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 5: Gonna go less This is probably the biggest game he's

911
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 5: gonna play in this year. And I say that because

912
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 5: you have a certain number of games you play during

913
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 5: the season when you're a contender, and it's always those

914
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 5: games when you're playing against another contender that circle. And

915
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: this is gonna be a measuring stick because you might

916
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 5: see these cats in the playoffs and Brunson they're taking

917
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 5: this like a playoff matchup, and these are the type

918
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 5: of games that get you ready for the playoffs. I

919
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: think the lights are gonna be bright. I think he's

920
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 5: gonna get his taste of playoff basketball in a regular season.

921
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 5: That's what I like to call these games, a taste

922
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 5: of playoff basketball in the regular season in New York

923
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 5: fresh after the All Star Game.

924
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a little tough. So I'm

925
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: gonna go less.

926
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm going with with Cad Cunningham more than

927
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: twenty four and a half, just because he's missing Jalen

928
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: Duran b Stewart is out as well. It's just he's

929
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: gonna have to carry more of an offensive load and

930
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: so give me that, and then I want to do

931
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Carl towns Man with the boards. Their two best big

932
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: men out. This is a perfect opportunity for Carl Towns

933
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: come in dominate. Yeah, he gotta you gotta less than

934
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: eight point five.

935
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: You gotta get more, man, you gotta get more than

936
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: you know, he's going against Paul Reed. I believe Paul

937
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: is my dog, and he hoops. But he got be

938
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: size the advantage there, so he gotta take advantage and

939
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: try to get on the glass.

940
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: Man. So Cat, I'm gonna go more for Cat for uh.

941
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 5: Eight is like that benchmark. I'm gonna go less more.

942
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to dominate.

943
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: After all start, he chilled out.

944
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, that first game after All Stars. Sometimes it's tough.

945
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: As long as he don't go six one, I think

946
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: we'll be straight.

947
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 8: Wow, they lost last two games.

948
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 3: I'm going yeah, they beat They've been beating their ass

949
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: bro after the break too. I think I'm gonna go

950
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: New York because they don't got their guys. Detroit got

951
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: their guys. I'm gonna go Knicks. No during No, Isaiah

952
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 3: Stewart Like, that's a good amount of rebounding and defense,

953
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: and that's a big part of the game.

954
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think not having Andobi is gonna play a

955
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: huge role in this. Yeah, he's he's been out with

956
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: a nagging injury, and so I think Detroit wins a

957
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: closer game. But also, if you're the Knicks, you still

958
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: feel a slight edge because we got you in the playoffs.

959
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: We're not gonna have to play you till a few

960
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: rounds in, So I'm taking Detroit.

961
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: I mean what you mean a few rounds in might

962
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,879
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963
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 5: They keep tripping, seriously, I mean they got the number

964
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 5: three seed. If they slide to that fourth round, you

965
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 5: don't want to see this match up until the conference final. Sure,

966
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 5: they better stop slipping. So I got I got the

967
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 5: Knicks winning this game.

968
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1007
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1008
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1009
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1010
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: Is that how it's gonna work?

1011
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 6: You think of top three don't want to go live

1012
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 6: and play in DC.

1013
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: Who's done nothing ever.

1014
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: So I'm saying the small markets are like.

1015
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: DC's not a small market.

1016
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: But if they're winning, to offer you more money too, Yeah.

1017
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: They're gonna go somewhere for They're gonna go where they

1018
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,240
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1019
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to DC, know what I'm saying,

1020
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: Like the Utah's, the Minnesota, like the teams Charlotte, he.

1021
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 4: Got a four hundred million dollars coming out.

1022
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know if they're gonna do that.

1023
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 2: Are they allowed to do that?

1024
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: I think they're.

1025
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 5: Gonna say all incoming players are gonna be free agents

1026
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: to stop the teams from Yeah, but.

1027
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna cap how much you get still.

1028
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: Cap you gotta cap the rookies something, you.

1029
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. But I'm just saying. I think

1030
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: the smartest players will want to go to a team

1031
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: that they got the best chance to get a great

1032
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: second contract, for sure. And if you just have a

1033
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: track record a fucking young players careers up, why should

1034
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: a young player want to go play for you?

1035
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: If you got the bread, it's the bread one. I

1036
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: think branding is a big part of it. I think

1037
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: a lot of guys just want to play with either

1038
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: where they live or they like feel like if I

1039
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: grew up in this city, I want to play for

1040
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: this team, or I want to play in a warmer city.

1041
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm I think most people are gonna gravitate to the

1042
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: cities that are more comfortable, that's all. Oh, No, man,

1043
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: I think if you have a track good West is

1044
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: in hell like in beyond.

1045
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 4: A Milwaukee great fan bases.

1046
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure, but like, okay, like those cities that

1047
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 3: people don't care. In the Midwest, warst cold at ship

1048
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 3: and ain't much going on.

1049
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 4: I think like you should be only allowed to drive

1050
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: one rookie one guy sign.

1051
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: I think players, I think players are savvier than that,

1052
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: especially with their representation. Like if you have a coach

1053
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: who has no track record of making players better, i e.

1054
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Setting them up to get their sick ass second contract

1055
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: just because they're in they're on the Clippers. Let's say

1056
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: it's the Clippers who are here in Los Angeles. If

1057
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: a player has any sense they're not doing that, like

1058
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy easy to me to be like, Oh,

1059
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: I just want to live in that label. My career

1060
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: goes nowhere. Let's do it.

1061
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

1062
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: Let's mock draft right now, the top ten picks in

1063
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: the draft right now. If you're a top ten pick

1064
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: in the draft, what teams are you looking at?

1065
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 5: Depends on what they can offer can play the most,

1066
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: just because I'm the top pick. Lakers say, Lakers can

1067
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 5: offer you the most. But then you go there and

1068
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: you won't develop. You're not gonna get the ball.

1069
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 4: You can get the ball.

1070
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: You're you're a ball handling kind of guard. You want

1071
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: to go play with.

1072
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: What you're talking about the contract then mostly yes, so

1073
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: you say, but you're saying that.

1074
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: It's a combination of both.

1075
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: They can offer a contract, you're saying the cap, but.

1076
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 6: They're going to cap how much a rookie can make

1077
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 6: no matter.

1078
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: What every team is. Doesn't just say they're gonna give

1079
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: you the max they can offer a rookie.

1080
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: Every time you just say, don't cap it.

1081
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 5: Ain't nobody gonna make the mistake of signing a rookie

1082
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 5: to a huge dealing and mess up.

1083
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: They cap a cap deal that like the max they

1084
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: can get is twenty per year.

1085
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: I don't think you should get a max if.

1086
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 3: They're all offering the max that they can get at

1087
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 3: a cap rookie, say the max rookie deal is fifteen

1088
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: to twenty million.

1089
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 4: Dollars, get that that's unlimited.

1090
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 6: I have a question, So why isn't this happening at

1091
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 6: the college level.

1092
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: Why doesn't every kid just want to play for USC

1093
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: if they could get the same amount of money and

1094
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: nothing else matters, Why don't they just want to play

1095
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: for USC and U C l A.

1096
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: I think it just happened on the college Why do

1097
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: you think want to BYU they offer the most money.

1098
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Dan, you said, you're saying markets and like, oh,

1099
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna get funnel to these certain.

1100
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: Kind of teams. Again, I don't believe they.

1101
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Speaker 1: Can.

1102
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: They be offered the most money, Like what we gotta see.

1103
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

1104
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 6: The money is relatively close.

1105
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: Or let's just say the Lakers can offer you to

1106
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: the Pacers can offer you ten, and the Pacers and

1107
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: you're a guy who needs the ball in your hands,

1108
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: the Lakers have Luca Dodgers and the Pacers' slot.

1109
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: That's obviously I'm saying, let's make it a base thing.

1110
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: If every team can offer you ten, worries, that's.

1111
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: Not what they're gonna do.

1112
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 6: That's not what they're not gonna Just make it so

1113
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 6: that every team can offer the.

1114
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Same amount of money if they're gonna give these whacker

1115
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: teams some kind of advantage, but you have to offer

1116
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: more than just what the money is. Like this idea,

1117
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: we just funnel young, good players to failing organizations or.

1118
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 6: Teams who all they ever did good was lose on purpose.

1119
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand why that's good system or good for

1120
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: the league. And I'm saying in the NCAA, they're already

1121
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: showing you there's a system where guys are like, all right,

1122
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: some people can offer me more, some people can offer

1123
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: me less. But guess what, John Caliperry just put x

1124
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: amount straight people into the pros or this organization just

1125
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: x amount of young players have shown themselves to get

1126
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: big second deals.

1127
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: It has to do again, we have to see what

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00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 3: the money is like. Now it all depends on who

1129
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: can offer what type of money.

1130
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 6: I think the money I think they definitely needs to

1131
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 6: be a scale.

1132
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: Because who don't matter who.

1133
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: Like if I if I'm the Lakers and I'm all

1134
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: over the cap, it don't matter what I go into

1135
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: the cap. If I can get another one ban Yama,

1136
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: I'm offering whatever.

1137
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: But that's different.

1138
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 4: You got a draft if you're way over the cap.

1139
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to put limitations on it. But the

1140
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: incentive to get players, like the way that you get

1141
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: plays cannot be that you make the NBA product a

1142
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: ship product on purpose? Can you get good players on your.

1143
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: Team teams that above the cap now don't get a

1144
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: top ten picks.

1145
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: What you're saying, I'm saying there's a system that could

1146
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: happen Danny like game that you can put in place,

1147
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: that we can put in I'm not thinking on the fly,

1148
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: but they're like, you can make it like this to

1149
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: where it's it's even because like you don't want to

1150
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: think about.

1151
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 5: You get a high a team like the Lakers, who

1152
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 5: has a good what do you call it draft or no,

1153
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 5: like their big market and they spend the twenty five million,

1154
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 5: it's gonna cripple their cap space to where they can't

1155
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 5: get it better.

1156
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 4: So let them do it.

1157
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 5: And then this other team, Okay, I'm gonna draft two

1158
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: rookies that's gonna be pretty good at a lower price

1159
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 5: and get them split that between these two. That's gonna

1160
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 5: give me more depth, the reason, the.

1161
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: Reason why too many moving parts with I think that's

1162
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: what you have to put a lot of boundaries.

1163
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: A lot about the draft how it is now, you know,

1164
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: did you know I think it's horrible. Yeah, But like

1165
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: the people are gaming the draft system, they're gaming it,

1166
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: and how they gaming is making their teams trashed on purpose.

1167
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: From February all that can't be How you sell your

1168
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: league is to get rid of the draft. Yes, there's

1169
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: no other way to do it because the incentives are disgusting,

1170
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: be horrible, get access to young talent, or what the

1171
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: team's gonna do.

1172
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 5: Like you could keep the drift, but get rid of

1173
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 5: the rooky scale.

1174
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 4: Get rid of that now.

1175
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 5: So like now the number one player, it used to

1176
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 5: be like that, you could like Big Dog came in

1177
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 5: signed eighty million, So now if you can't afford the

1178
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 5: number one pick, it goes to well than afford it,

1179
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 5: sure like he'll get drafted by you and be like, well,

1180
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 5: y'all can't afford me, I'm gonna re enter the draft

1181
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 5: sure and the.

1182
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 4: Like or something like that. I don't know.

1183
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: I think there should be some level of playing choice,

1184
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: just straight up like, and you need to make your

1185
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: franchise attractive for younger players. Yes, you won't be as

1186
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: attractive as easily as the Lakers. Okay, we get it.

1187
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: That's the one fucking team you can't have the same

1188
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: built in advantage of legacy, history, prestige, blah blah blah

1189
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: blah blah.

1190
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 6: So the Lakers will have an advantage in that sense.

1191
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: But like, Bru, like the idea is just like I

1192
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: don't have to make my franchise attractive to young talent,

1193
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: I just get them because I'm trash that like, I

1194
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: don't understand.

1195
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: That's another way to fix that part too. I don't

1196
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: think it's just you have to take away the draft.

1197
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: There's other ways you can kind of fix.

1198
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 6: Mark Cuban said, we need to get fans.

1199
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Speaker 1: We need to get fans to understand that, make fans

1200
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: understand that this is good. Well, if you're a Jazz fan,

1201
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: if you're an NBA fan, shut up. This is just

1202
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: smart basketball management. Educate the fans about how smart the

1203
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Jazz are of being a fucking horrible basketball team, saying

1204
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: that understand Jazz fans individually can talk themselves into it.

1205
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we're not selling the league. They just Jazz fans.

1206
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: You know somebody who's like, oh, you know, you're a

1207
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornets fan season ticket holder. You paid all this

1208
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: money the fucking Utah Jazz coming to your town. Garbage.

1209
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't have to see what terrible hoop and I

1210
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 1: paid all this money for professional basketball and they doing

1211
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: silly shit by pulling their best players in the fourth quarter.

1212
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: Anti competitive bullshit.

1213
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 6: This is what we're selling the people in the name

1214
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 6: of the NBA Draft.

1215
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: That sounds crazy. We don't need the draft bro to

1216
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: have a league.

1217
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 7: But if it was that, if it gets Cooper, yeah understand, like.

1218
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: It didn't get but that's not how they got Cooper flag.

1219
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: That's why it's so stupid.

1220
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 2: But again, the teams that tanked have like.

1221
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: Pro getting Luca three teams had to be fucking idiots,

1222
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: you know.

1223
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Like the tanking is proved so that

1224
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: they got to the bad teams get a chance to

1225
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: better player.

1226
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: Bro, we got a draft.

1227
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 6: Better Cleveland also got what was Bennett?

1228
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: How many people have been like that, these teams.

1229
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 6: Will tank, get a number four pick and the kids sucks.

1230
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: That's there, but they at least got the choice to

1231
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: do so.

1232
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: And then they do it all over again, purpose all

1233
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: over again.

1234
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: That's the front office problem. That's not a draft, that's

1235
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: not the draft draft.

1236
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 4: But like, what's the old front office.

1237
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: Made a bad decision?

1238
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 5: What's the overall goal that you know David Stern wanted

1239
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 5: and Adam Silver wanted moving forward, their idea was what

1240
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 5: it is now actually to create kind of like no

1241
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 5: more dynasties, like like kind of like balance amongst the league,

1242
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 5: like we see in the NFL.

1243
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: Lakers, the best players.

1244
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 5: It's like what we created, like the draft is another thing,

1245
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 5: but what we created as a whole, like a team

1246
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 5: hasn't repeated since like what years ago, seven years ago,

1247
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 5: and then we got a new champion. Like at the

1248
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 5: end of the day, I love that part. Sure of

1249
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 5: the NBA. Now, these rookies may turn off something in

1250
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 5: the draft and all of this team's taking it is

1251
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 5: what it is. But at the end of the day,

1252
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 5: I know that the league as a whole is not

1253
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 5: top heavy with like the Lakers getting all the talent

1254
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 5: or the New York Knicks getting all the talent, Like oh,

1255
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 5: we think these big market, big market teams are doing.

1256
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: The Knicks would just get all the talent. It's one

1257
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: team that you could point to that you could probably

1258
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: be like, man, they would probably end up a lot

1259
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: of years getting guys who are dying to go play

1260
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: for the No other teams is that existful?

1261
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: No, it does? It does. I think who else?

1262
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: They just be building challenges because of who they are

1263
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: and where they're at.

1264
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: They'll get the first crack at those top players. Like

1265
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: everybody wants to play for Mix or Boston or Lakers.

1266
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: Bro every is a historic thing. Kids want to play

1267
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: in the or Miami. They want to play in a

1268
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: big like, they're gonna get the They may not get them,

1269
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: but they'll get the first interview crack at talking and.

1270
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: Then okay, so then the first chance that these stars

1271
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: have to pick a team, they're kicking.

1272
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: These guys won't necessarily do that.

1273
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

1274
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: So you can't blame the draft, like the process of

1275
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 3: the draft on GM's back.

1276
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: No, I'm blaming the process of the draft on trash basketball.

1277
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: Like you're like, this is one thing creating that getting

1278
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: jazz and putting out the worst product possible, Like, how

1279
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: could you want to be the league known for teams

1280
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: quitting on fucking winning games in February. That's like, Danny,

1281
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: that's crazy message to send out to.

1282
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 3: The world show and the bigger picture. You're you're saying

1283
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 3: that eventually it'll turn to where it'll be better basketball

1284
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: because look out how quick the turnaround was for okay, see.

1285
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: In San Antonio.

1286
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think.

1287
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: So we get all these teams to get better players

1288
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 3: at the time, then it's like we'll have more competitive

1289
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 3: basket for the next whatever ten years. There's always gonna

1290
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: be some team's gonna be bad.

1291
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: You're selling something to the fans, Like, like eventually when

1292
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: you message to an entire world that your fucking NBA season.

1293
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 4: Product is lower the ticket prices.

1294
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 6: Now, it is crazy.

1295
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 5: Lower the ticket prices incentives to taking Like I'll pay

1296
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 5: for these season seats at the beginning of the year,

1297
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 5: give me a discount.

1298
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: Brown, How can you be a league that like tells

1299
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: people outwardly your fans these games are bullshit, They're worthless.

1300
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: Jazz Pacers game tomorrow is worth the fucking ship on

1301
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: the bottom of my shoe. That's what you want to

1302
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: say the fans because of the draft, Like that seems

1303
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: that's the tail wagging the dog to me, Like that's crazy,

1304
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: Like we need to protect the draft at all costs, Like, no,

1305
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: we don't. I don't draft.

1306
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: Think there's other ways to can fix that. Man, Maybe

1307
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: the draft is a solution, but.

1308
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 2: I don't.

1309
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 3: I don't mind the draft. I think the draft is okay.

1310
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: I don't think it's terrible.

1311
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: I think the draft is horrible.

1312
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: It's horrible for the lead and it's only sixty picks.

1313
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: How much really does.

1314
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: It dictate, bro, It's how many teams.

1315
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 3: First twenty picks? It dictates quite a bit. But outside

1316
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: of that, a lot of guys getting undrafted, a lot

1317
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 3: of guys.

1318
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm not saying that. I'm

1319
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: saying when ten teams out of thirty are trying their

1320
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: hardest to lose in your league. That dynamic doesn't exist

1321
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: in any other professional league in the world where teams

1322
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: are actively trying to lose a third of your league

1323
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: but doesn't want to win.

1324
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: But other sports we do have drafts though, right, But

1325
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: why again?

1326
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: The NBA is sure because they have different dynamics. Like there,

1327
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: there's different sort of structures in the NFL, even the

1328
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: NFL because it's such a like, you know, it's such

1329
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: a huge sport and you can try to position yourself

1330
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. You just can't ask.

1331
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 10: A team in September October to tell the rest of

1332
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 10: your locker room, people that are putting their life and

1333
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 10: limb on the line, we're not trying to win anymore.

1334
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: Well, how do they do the draft? Like, how do

1335
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: they pick who gets the topic?

1336
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: Worst records?

1337
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: It's also worst records, but.

1338
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: Just less games. Right, it's harder. They don't start taking

1339
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: they don't start losing until like.

1340
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: The sorry, football, I'm sorry. In football, you just can't

1341
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: bring that mentality into that culture.

1342
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 6: That's fucking that's insane.

1343
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 5: What they do is put a quarterback out there who

1344
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 5: they don't think can't get it done.

1345
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 6: But the defense, the guys that play defense on that

1346
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 6: team are.

1347
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 3: Still trying to get I don't think it's a player thing,

1348
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: because every player in every sport wants to play. Bro

1349
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like everybody's earning a contract.

1350
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: They want to show what they can do. It's the

1351
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: top down, it's the front office, the coaching staff. They like,

1352
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 3: we're gonna sit these guys because if they play, they're

1353
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: gonna fucking play.

1354
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1355
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 6: No, And I'm not saying it's the players.

1356
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the people at the top the jazz organization.

1357
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: So NFL does the same thing, essentially, they put in

1358
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 3: different type of players, right.

1359
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: No, they don't. They don't. Sometimes you got a young

1360
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: quarterback and you're scared that his development is gonna be

1361
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: fucked up. You put the backup in because his development

1362
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: is gonna like you might like scar this guy for

1363
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: life because you got him sacked eighty times. Cool. They

1364
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: don't just say in the third quarter, I'm taking out

1365
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: my two best cornerbacks because I want to lose. That's

1366
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: just bro. The idea of trying to lose games, that's

1367
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: just impossible. Even teams that consider themselves to be rebuilding.

1368
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: You want to be building winning Abbess.

1369
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 5: Organizations contract NFL too, Yeah, you just can't unless you

1370
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 5: start doing that with the NBA and center based contracts.

1371
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: Bro.

1372
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: But that a player thing, right, more than anything, And

1373
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 3: I don't doubt that the players are not trying to

1374
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 3: hoop BRO.

1375
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: In the NFL, the players would fucking mutiny if you

1376
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: actually sit here and tell a middle linebacker, a safety

1377
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: you pulled your three best defensive linemen in the fourth

1378
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: quarter of a game that y'all had a chance of

1379
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: winning because you want a better chance at new fucking players,

1380
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: they would riot. They would be like, what the fuck

1381
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: is wrong with you? We play to win. We play

1382
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,959
Speaker 1: this game to win. So like, yeah, NB, Like Jared

1383
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: Jackson is like, all right, he loves the game, he

1384
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: wants to play, but management come down and say you're

1385
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: not playing no more. He's gonna be a good soldier.

1386
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 6: But like, realistically, that's disgusting.

1387
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: BRO, And what if I guess everybody's like, yeah, it's

1388
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: cool to have a league of ten teams that don't

1389
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: give a fuck about anything and just put out a

1390
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: trash product from February to bro He's they started in February,

1391
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: bro Danny February broh Yeah.

1392
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean it's like we were the almost two thirds

1393
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: of the way through.

1394
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: It's like people just you know, you have a rule

1395
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: and then there's like a spirit of the rule, and

1396
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: then there's the letter of the rule. The Jazz and

1397
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: all these other tankers are doing they're playing it by

1398
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: the letter of the rule, like meaning I'm not breaking

1399
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: any rules, but like.

1400
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: Bruh, the manipulating, manipulating, like the rules what you're saying.

1401
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: You know, It's like the number seven eleven had the

1402
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: penny jar, Like if you was paying the cash and

1403
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: you was like three cents, sure, you just took the

1404
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: three pennies and like you know what I mean, and

1405
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: then some asshole came and just took the whole jar.

1406
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: That's these tanking ass teams right now. That's what they're doing,

1407
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: and they're disgusting. I hope Adam. I don't know. I

1408
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: don't know if Adam got the stones to do it.

1409
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: But I hope that he does. Let's on the show.

1410
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: On a fun note, plack Boy Max had Jalen Duran

1411
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: and Jared McCain in the studio last week.

1412
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: They was spitting some crazy I heard day it's hilarious.

1413
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 3: I heard Jalen's little session.

1414
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 6: Let's check him out and see what you guys think.

1415
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: I had to watch this. I do funny at ship bro.

1416
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 9: And if you keep grinding, she gonna act right. And

1417
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 9: I lost my bst to a duke. I said, fucking

1418
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 9: she can have it? Is she gonna do shit I don't,

1419
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 9: and she gonna touch it.

1420
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 4: I won't.

1421
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 9: Um, just not going to get another one, pick up

1422
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 9: the phone and hit up another one, then another one,

1423
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 9: and another one, then another one in another one.

1424
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, be go hard, be go hard, yo. He lost

1425
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 8: his girl to one to ten the bars.

1426
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm old school man. I'm gonna go with two out

1427
01:04:59,200 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: of ten on that.

1428
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: I was about to say, like a three for the

1429
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 2: flow is three.

1430
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,479
Speaker 1: There's no lines of RUMs. The funk with the content though,

1431
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. My shorty left me. I'm

1432
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna get four more. You know, I don't know maybe

1433
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: about the you know the derogatory statement towards lesbian's. I

1434
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's hip hop, so we don't really care.

1435
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: But like another one, No, we're big allies. Everybody knows

1436
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: that community.

1437
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, gonna be TikTok boy, TikTok. It's another heartbeat heard

1438
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, yeah.

1439
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 11: Just on the west side Wars versus and I am giving.

1440
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: You one line, my line because this is my flash.

1441
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: Seven k on me all right back.

1442
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 11: I've been catching all players like a wide shot on

1443
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 11: this switch.

1444
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: Because I'm like that, like that, like that because I'm

1445
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: like that.

1446
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 11: I like thats alright, ass Yeah, I like thats alright,

1447
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 11: bass Yeah, I like thats alright, bass yeah yeah, I

1448
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 11: light as alright, ass.

1449
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn out this city city. I know that

1450
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: my brothers just with me gone.

1451
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 11: We better than I bring in that Philly better because

1452
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 11: if we don't get.

1453
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: Sticky, I can't believe they gave me ya yo.

1454
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 11: I'm gonna showing what's up nat me a super max

1455
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 11: So because you have been getting these bucks. Yeah, I

1456
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 11: like that, alright, bass, Oh yeah, I like that alright,

1457
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 11: mat yeah.

1458
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: Like that rocket like little Lousie out there, we got vibes.

1459
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go. We're grading on the scale.

1460
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go six.

1461
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: That's crazy. He was, he was going there. That's a little.

1462
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bars ain't crazy, but like song to it

1463
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: a little sound seven seven and a half, seven seven

1464
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 3: and a half like a little know what I'm saying,

1465
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: a little technology.

1466
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: He was just way better than.

1467
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's way better. Affectation was low.

1468
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 6: You could tell he actually has rapped and stuff.

1469
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: He's he's been, he's been a booth before.

1470
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: It looks sounds like who would the best NBA rappers ever?

1471
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

1472
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 1: I think for sure?

1473
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: Game up there?

1474
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: I heard Miles Bridges pretty likes pretty good.

1475
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 4: I'm going shot.

1476
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: Shack is Yeah, Shack is up there.

1477
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 2: That was solid. What saying.

1478
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 3: Uh, drum had an album. She was not too bad.

1479
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 3: Andrew Drummond had album. Yeah, it wasn't like bars, but

1480
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: it has vibe like he has songs litt auto.

1481
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: Some old Depot had an R and B album.

1482
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll sing.

1483
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: I remember that. That was pretty solid. Victim's R and

1484
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: B album was kind of sod damn for sure. Okay,

1485
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, Miles Bridges is way better than he has

1486
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: any business being and he's talking about, you know, sliding

1487
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: on the ops.

1488
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1489
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: You have you, guys, ever gotten in the studio and

1490
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: the vocals.

1491
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: On the track the best?

1492
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 4: You got nothing.

1493
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 6: There's no there's no vocals out there.

1494
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: You got me.

1495
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 3: You got me doing a Drake intro on some ship

1496
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: that's like that. I've done a few of those. Only

1497
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 3: one I released though, but I was. I did the

1498
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 3: intro as if I'm Drake, but I was if I

1499
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 3: was Luca, then I did. I was, okay, one of

1500
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 3: the one with viral though Luca one went viral.

1501
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: I didn't do that. I didn't put out the other

1502
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: two though, just like the you just got to put

1503
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: him out.

1504
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: Man, you're just.

1505
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: Talking on the beat, bro. It ain't nothing crazy.

1506
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: So Paul, you never went in the studio. I'm sure

1507
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: you've been in the studio with rappers before and all

1508
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: of that, but you never like got on the wax

1509
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: love that.

1510
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: No, you gotta do the intro or the Drake intro.

1511
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 2: I had it on my I G.

1512
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Yeah that yeah, I think it's

1513
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 3: that one or the one of the the one with

1514
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: Luke on there or they found they found that this

1515
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 3: stuff the Luca joints.

1516
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: I did all. I didn't know they released the other.

1517
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: Ones though it's in the top left.

1518
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get the song, you get the sound I'm saying.

1519
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 3: But I guess they did put the SGAG one out there.

1520
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 3: Just left Milwaukee after dropping forty damn the with a average.

1521
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 2: Not new to me, Sureley, I do this.

1522
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, shit boy, seventy seven junior senior. Don't matter which James.

1523
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: As long as I.

1524
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: Got my aar with me, we ain't playing games. Boys

1525
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: in trouble for real.

1526
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, skinny fat Luca, it don't matter. I move at

1527
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,440
Speaker 3: my own pace, no matter how much my weight fluctuates.

1528
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 3: You'll still get put on skates on one time.

1529
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: I don't get it twisted. Yeah, bars, that's perfect, you

1530
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1531
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 3: Walk them down on the beak, just talk. I didn't

1532
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: know they put out the step. I didn't see the stuff.

1533
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 3: This was the inside the greenroom joint.

1534
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I need you do. We gotta

1535
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Speaker 2: do a random tic.

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: I never did.

1537
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: No TikTok okay, see what you got. We cook up something.

1538
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 3: But I don't even see how he's turned out. Honestly, hmm,

1539
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: it's four. I am in Oakland. I'm thinking about all

1540
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 3: the fun we had in Texas, left the city heartbroken

1541
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 3: like I did my exes.

1542
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: They ain't like that one get.

1543
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 3: Them dirty twice back to back, like old school gun fights.

1544
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: On the holiday.

1545
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 3: It don't matter who they throw at me. I take

1546
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: down giants. Boy, check my wrap sheet. I put the

1547
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:50,520
Speaker 3: best of them to sleep.

1548
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:59,959
Speaker 2: Night night. That's me. You know who it is? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1549
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: But that was Met who wrote them.

1550
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 5: I wrote, Bro, I got somewhere with that.

1551
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 3: Don't sound different than when I was listening to it. It

1552
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 3: sounds like it's not matching without I wrote that. Bro.

1553
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: Harrison literally said, yoah, I need you to do so.

1554
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 3: I said word I did, like like night before. I

1555
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 3: was like, shit, last, I gotta put some shiite.

1556
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: So you used to write rhyme?

1557
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 3: No, No, you just you just naturally.

1558
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: That's easy to do.

1559
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: You're just talking.

1560
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: You gotta like right the beat, you.

1561
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: Just talking, and you know what I'm saying.

1562
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: It took.

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01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 3: I want to say a lot of takes. Me to

1564
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 3: a couple of takes. Because the instrumentals only like thirty seconds.

1565
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,799
Speaker 3: I had to fit it within the instrumental. So Lucas

1566
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 3: Ship was longer, so I had to, like, damn, I

1567
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 3: had to like do it quite quicker.

1568
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: So you had even more bars.

1569
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 3: Nah, it just I just spaced it out like I

1570
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 3: My intro was like some you know what I'm saying,

1571
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 3: like one minute church type ship. You know what I'm saying,

1572
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 3: Like like the ad libs. I would take my time. Yeah,

1573
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 3: seventy seven, you know what I'm saying. But I had

1574
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 3: to rush it a little bit more because it's only

1575
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 3: twenty five thirty seconds even were put actually on the

1576
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: next leg, next time whatever, But I didn't see how

1577
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 3: that went, how that came out.

1578
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: We gotta get you back in the boufa na at

1579
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: some point.

1580
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 2: I'm not writing.

1581
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 3: I ain't doing but I wrote those but I'm definitely

1582
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 3: not rapping.

1583
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 6: Okay, you're not gonna.

1584
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: It's two am. I just landed in the city. Scott's cleaning.

1585
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 3: But you know, my team get down like Aris who

1586
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see.

1587
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: That's my son.

1588
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: You know what it is?

1589
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 3: Fresh legs my teams. So for real, I dropped thirty

1590
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 3: because I'm most valuable. Still I don't play for us.

1591
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 3: Is crazy. I feel like there was more to that.

1592
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. It might have got cut short.

1593
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 3: There's definitely more to that because I threw a thunderline

1594
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,440
Speaker 3: in there somewhere, and then also.

1595
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 1: Him freestyle is one of the goats.

1596
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 6: We're getting out of here with that.

1597
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,519
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1598
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,040
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