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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. It is me, Joey p Joep's a be a.

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Speaker 1: Free agency is done, it's dust, and it's over. Pretty

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Speaker 1: much a couple spragglers kind of hanging around there. So

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Speaker 1: we decided to take a look at some of our

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Speaker 1: favorite moves and what it means for fantasy Our top

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Speaker 1: five or two of our favorite experts, Debro Derek Brown,

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Speaker 1: the King of Bros, is here, and the very most

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Speaker 1: accurate Rancor in the history of the universe is also

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Speaker 1: here from Yahoo the one, the only, Justin Boone who

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Speaker 1: also just got extended. I was scrolling on my Instagram

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Speaker 1: having my morning cup of tea because I'm a snob,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking through and looking through it, I see

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Speaker 1: Justin Boone's face extended. Look at you. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize you were on a one year show me deal, Boone.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were like a multi year kind of

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Speaker 1: guy because you're so good. But you know what, this

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Speaker 1: is what happened. You go on that one year deal, Boonie.

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Speaker 1: Just like in free agency, you go, you crush it.

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Speaker 1: Next thing you know, it's that long term offer. Stay

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Speaker 1: in the face. Way to go, buddy, way to go.

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Speaker 2: Well, that might be a little bit of a misc

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Speaker 2: I was not on the one year prove it deal.

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Speaker 2: This was just a new extension. I would like to

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Speaker 2: believe for the incredible first season that I have had

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Speaker 2: at Yahoo. But no, I mean it's been a wonderful year,

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Speaker 2: Like it's gone better than and you guys know me

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Speaker 2: at this point, right, I am not without confidence in myself.

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Speaker 2: And yet I don't think even I would have anticipated

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Speaker 2: how things have gone coming back. I had some doubts,

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Speaker 2: you know, after five years away from the Fantasy Pro's

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Speaker 2: Accuracy contest. It was like, all right, has it changed?

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Speaker 2: Has everyone gotten better? Have I fallen behind? It was

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Speaker 2: a great feeling, I will tell you guys.

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Speaker 3: It was good to win it the first time back

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Speaker 3: in the day.

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Speaker 2: It was even better this time to win it, to

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Speaker 2: be like, Okay, I might have won it all five

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Speaker 2: of the years that I was gone, then right.

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Speaker 1: Let's not get it.

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Speaker 3: It's an awesome year.

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Speaker 2: It's been awesome at Yahoo, and it was just a

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Speaker 2: no brainer to sign the extension and stick around. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a great crew over there, and yeah, I look

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Speaker 2: forward to what we can keep doing moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bro, I mean it's a great crew. Obviously, they're

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Speaker 1: very lucky to have you over there. We're very excited

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Speaker 1: that you made the move over there.

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Speaker 3: And de Bro.

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Speaker 1: You saw the pictures of him and the trophies, right

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Speaker 1: trophy room. Oh yeah, it's getting a little much. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: there it is there it is. Oh look at bad

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Speaker 1: boy there within reaching distance.

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 1: You know, d I feel like a little Boone success,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, your number one rancor all these

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Speaker 1: times this he owes us something right, kind of like

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Speaker 1: more guest spots in season. Maybe you know, I'm so busy.

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Speaker 1: I'm just in Boone, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean I have said this before.

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Speaker 2: I believe on the show, but I mean, you go

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Speaker 2: back in the day, I was just some dude from

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Speaker 2: Canada doing fantasy content until I joined the Fantasy Pro's

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Speaker 2: Accuracy Contest and it gave me some credibility.

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Speaker 3: And back then I.

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Speaker 2: Used to kind of hide the fact that I was

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Speaker 2: Canadian because I was like, nobody in America is gonna

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Speaker 2: want to listen to a Canadian guy give them football advice.

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Speaker 2: And then after a few years into the Fantasy pros

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Speaker 2: contest and doing well and showing what I could do that.

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Speaker 2: It was like, it doesn't really matter where you're from,

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Speaker 2: just keep them coming.

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Speaker 3: So go. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I definitely owe some of the some of the success,

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Speaker 2: certainly to fantasy pros and to YouTube gentlemen who I

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Speaker 2: always love jumping on with.

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Speaker 1: There were hearts of going out there, but it's that's

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Speaker 1: inspiration stuff. There are people who listen to the show

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Speaker 1: and they're starting now to we all started somewhere.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I always say anything idiot can get to a podcast

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Speaker 1: because I had one, right, look at me, Look at me,

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Speaker 1: still an idiot, still doing podcasts. So the boys have

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Speaker 1: ranked their top five post free agency dudes here that

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Speaker 1: they are super excited about drafting this year. Debro, Let's

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Speaker 1: get you in here first. Let's talk about your number

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Speaker 1: five on your list here, and it is Isaiah Likely

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Speaker 1: now of the New York Football Giants. So Hardball took

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean I'm going to be drafting him

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Speaker 4: everywhere right now. In my early redraft ranks, I had

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Speaker 4: him as tight end seven, and I just the clear

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Speaker 4: path or targets is set. I mean, are we worried

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Speaker 4: about Milik Neighbors coming off acl What does he look

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Speaker 4: But again, this is early. Who is he competing for

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Speaker 4: targets to be the number two target getter on a

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Speaker 4: Jackson Dart led offense, Darius Slayton, Darnold Mooney. We're worried

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Speaker 4: talent upside from Likely. Twenty twenty five was basically a

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Speaker 4: lost season. You go back to twenty twenty four amongst

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Speaker 4: forty seven qualifying tight ends, Likely was top fifteen and

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Speaker 4: approaching Isaiah Likely is a mush draft guy with top

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Speaker 4: honestly feels like low hanging fruit guys boone.

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Speaker 1: Right now, this is that time of year where the

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Speaker 1: ranks are a little you know, stagnate. It's March. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: waiting for the draft to finish, for free agency to

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Speaker 1: wrap up, and all that good stuff. So as of now,

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Speaker 1: likely he's outside of the top twelve tight ends. Wow,

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Speaker 1: early ranks, but just don't want to get boonstake on

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Speaker 1: this because we've got Ronde Gadsden, Jake Ferguson, Juwan Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Would you take likely over all of those guys because

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Speaker 1: those are the ten, eleven, twelve right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, believe I have likely right now at tight end twelve.

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Speaker 2: I think he's right in that range. Debro certainly a

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Speaker 2: little more excited than I am. But I think the

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Speaker 2: big thing is what Debro said, this Molik Neighbors injury,

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Speaker 2: and this time of year, I get it, people aren't

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Speaker 2: talking about injuries much normally.

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Speaker 3: It's like all very positive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Cam'scataboo stuff right now is very Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be fine, He's gonna be good. We're not

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Speaker 2: really hearing the same about Malik Neighbors. And if you

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Speaker 2: They're loading up here, and I think they're loading up

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Speaker 2: Of course, he's following Harbaugh over which you like to see.

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Speaker 2: The only negative that I could put on this is

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Speaker 2: So that's the only part that I'm a little bit

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Speaker 2: be there, the volume is going to be there. On

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Speaker 2: I mean, Likely can work a lot of the same

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Speaker 2: be this like moveable dynamic piece for them. I think

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Speaker 2: that's really exciting. And we also know in fantasy it

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Speaker 2: doesn't take that much to get into like the low

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Speaker 2: end tight end one ranks right, Like you put up

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Speaker 2: a decent touchdown total, you can get in there pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: After the top guys, it's pretty wide open. So I

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Speaker 2: really like Likely as somebody that I'm also targeting and

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Speaker 2: drafts issuear debro.

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Speaker 1: You know what I love. I think it's so cute

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Speaker 1: that Boone thought he could hide the fact that he

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Speaker 1: was Canadian when he pronounces at organization. I just love that.

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Speaker 1: Is there any doubt potentially on that at all? All Right,

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Speaker 1: So two tight ends to kick things off here. Chicka

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Speaker 1: conko O the next one on Boone's list here at

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Speaker 1: number five, So let's talk about that. He is now

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Speaker 1: Washington commander. Certainly opportunity abound here for him. Commanders obviously

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Speaker 1: some issues last year offensive line, some issues with Jane

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Speaker 1: So twenty twenty six, Chicka coonquo, What does that look

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Speaker 2: Well, this is another one of those like, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is a deeper pick. I saw deebro put likely

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Speaker 3: So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 2: This isn't necessarily like must have I'm going to have

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Speaker 2: a Concho on every team, but I think he is

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Speaker 2: going to be an incredible value because you look back

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Speaker 2: like last year, what an older zach Ertz did was

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Speaker 2: the tight end fourteen and fantasy points per game through

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Speaker 2: the first thirteen weeks he suffered his season ending injury.

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Speaker 2: And o'conko is somebody that's been like low key, pretty interesting,

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Speaker 2: pretty productive, catch a more than fifty passes, you know,

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Speaker 2: each of the past three years here. We've also seen

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Speaker 2: him do it as a fantasy starter for stretches, like

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Speaker 2: we saw him as a top twelve fantasy option. He

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Speaker 2: accomplished that feet down the stretch in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: posted you know, top seven weekly finishes in half of

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Speaker 3: So we've seen it in small sample sizes.

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Speaker 2: Now he's going to get this opportunity attached to a

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Speaker 2: good quarterback in an offense that we really don't know

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Speaker 2: who the number two pass catcher is going to be. Right,

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Speaker 2: we have Terry McLaurin, who I think is also somebody

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Speaker 2: that people should be targeting in drafts. Just remember he's

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Speaker 2: one season removed from having a great year and then

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Speaker 2: last year, like you were talking about, all the problems

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Speaker 2: they had and the injuries and everything. Right, So this season,

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Speaker 2: who's going to be that number two? Brandon Ayuk seems

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Speaker 2: like he's probably gonna end up there at some point.

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Speaker 3: But what is Brandon Ayuk? Now?

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Speaker 2: Is he the guy that we saw a few seasons

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Speaker 2: ago where he can be a meaningful piece, or is

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Speaker 2: he in a different stage of his career. He definitely

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Speaker 2: has a lot to prove. So I think a con

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Speaker 2: quo in a role that we've seen be valuable for

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Speaker 2: fantasy already is a very sneaky player that you're gonna

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Speaker 4: I've got him in like mid tight end two range, Okay,

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Speaker 2: And I think too with the Erz thing, like he

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Speaker 2: We have Jalen Wattle. It looks like everyone's reporting it

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Speaker 2: Jalen Wattle being traded to the Broncos. Wow, big, yes, big,

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Speaker 3: News here, Deebro. You want to give your thoughts, dude?

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Speaker 4: This is this is really freaking interesting for a passing

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Speaker 4: Dane Courtland Sutton because you haven't had really his claim

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Speaker 4: I mean, out of these two guys, give me Waddle

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing we're in concert there.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Waddle getting into a much better situation now.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that was concerning.

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Speaker 2: Now for me, this puts him back in that low

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Speaker 2: I know you at Debra were always in on the

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Speaker 2: But what a great thing for this offense. What a

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, yeah, we had massive storms here

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Speaker 1: I want to make the wheel for a second. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know the song has let Jesus take the wheel,

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Speaker 1: not to Derek Brown, the Broncos trading for Miami wide

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Speaker 3: It just happened at the exact our perfect moment.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, just just because I was out of

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Speaker 1: they not want him to have anyone to throw the

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that the idea booned?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't really talk about the Miami side of this,

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Speaker 2: and it leaves that.

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Speaker 1: Off I'm a great host. I wasn't even here and

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Speaker 1: I asked the right question.

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Speaker 2: Hey, one thing that I said while you were gone

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Speaker 2: was we were talking about, you know, Malik Wilson in

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Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to see them throw the

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Speaker 3: So I think this is very probab.

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Speaker 2: Now you look at this offense that we were already

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Speaker 2: I would imagine they plan in the draft to quote

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Speaker 3: There's a couple guys.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Miami, in that offense, there's some deeper guys

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially off our first time starter in Malik Willis too.

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Speaker 4: Dude, did you see the compensation that they got back

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Speaker 1: place to go. Uh and let's get to number four

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00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,840
Speaker 1: on our list too, Mike Evans for Derek Brown Debro.

436
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's an older wide receiver on a team

437
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,199
Speaker 1: that I think health wise we have a ton of

438
00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,800
Speaker 1: questions about, So what could go wrong right for Mike Evans?

439
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,320
Speaker 4: This just feels like Davonte Adams situation for me last year.

440
00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,520
Speaker 1: That's all. This feels like.

441
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,760
Speaker 4: Comp'm he goes to a really freaking good team that's

442
00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,400
Speaker 4: gonna throw the ball, that has competent quarterback play at

443
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,000
Speaker 4: there we it is a non zero chance that Mike

444
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,640
Speaker 4: Evans leads the entire freaking NFL in red zone targets

445
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,920
Speaker 4: this year. Who's to stop him? Guys? Juwan Jennings is gone,

446
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,359
Speaker 4: Christian Kirk not scared of Ricky Piersoll can't stay healthy?

447
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,720
Speaker 4: George Kittle, what what do we see out of him

448
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 4: from twenty twenty six? Like when does he even play?

449
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,919
Speaker 4: When's he one hundred percent? And people are going to

450
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 4: discount Mike Evans because they worried about the hamstring injuries

451
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,120
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff and all the emf

452
00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,280
Speaker 4: absolutely idiotic jokes going to be out there and I'm

453
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 4: not worried about any of that. And people are going

454
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,160
Speaker 4: to say, okay, well, but Mike Evans is getting older, okay,

455
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 4: and they're going to point to his one point seven

456
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,440
Speaker 4: to six yards per route run last year. The thing

457
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 4: that I'll push back about that is, did you see

458
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield play quarterback last year for most of the

459
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 4: season After the beginning of the season, he was hurt

460
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 4: and he played terribly Mike Evans. If you look at

461
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 4: also deeper analytics on him amongst all wide receivers at

462
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 4: least two hundred routes, this guy was second in separation

463
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 4: last year and second in route win rate. I'm not

464
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,360
Speaker 4: worried about Evans. The cliff has not come. You will

465
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,640
Speaker 4: get a discount based off of his age, based off

466
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 4: the injury history, and the upside is not going to

467
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 4: be priced into Mike Evans. Yes, I'm all in.

468
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is we're talking about Mike Evans.

469
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 1: It just brought up something that you kind of mentioned.

470
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 1: You see the compensation and for the Wattle trade and

471
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 1: looking at that compensation, the one thing that just popped

472
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 1: in my head boom, was that Okay, so boom first

473
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 1: round picks for Jalen Waddle, Right, So what's the AJ

474
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 1: Brown cost? Or have we gotten to a point now

475
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 1: where everybody like the musical chairs thing, like everybody's found

476
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 1: a chair and AJ Brown howsen and the Eagles may

477
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 1: have overplayed their hand a little bit and maybe you

478
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 1: can't get which you could have gotten for AJ Brown,

479
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks ago. And I know

480
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: they want to wait till June because of all the

481
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 1: cap implications there. But that does kind of beg the discussion,

482
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 1: I think a little bit too of like what is

483
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 1: that AJ Brown value now after Jamalen Wattle goes for

484
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: a first round and a bunch of other picks.

485
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, And there's a lot of factors in terms of, like,

486
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 2: you know, his happiness with the team and how he

487
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 2: feels about sticking around there. I don't normally bet against

488
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: Howie Roseman either. I feel like he tends to be

489
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 2: pretty smart about these things, and I think he'll get

490
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 2: it sorted out eventually here. But yeah, the AJ Brown

491
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 2: situation is basically like the last major piece in terms

492
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: of you know, receiver talent out there, and there's still

493
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,719
Speaker 2: a few teams. I mean, it really seems like the

494
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 2: Patriots are the ones that are hoping they can get

495
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: that done. And I mean from a fantasy perspective, I

496
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 2: think we would all like to see that happen as well,

497
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: for Drake May and for aj Brown to get them

498
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 2: that true number one.

499
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't think Romeo Dobbs is that guy, but I

500
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 3: really like Mike Evans.

501
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: I'm curious Debro where you have him though, because factoring

502
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: in all those things you said, and like you look

503
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 2: at the hamstring injuries.

504
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 3: This is six.

505
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: Straight seasons now where he's had some type of hamstring injury,

506
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: and yes he's getting older the type I think he

507
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: still has a bunch left in the tank. There's been

508
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: some decline, but has a bunch left in the tank.

509
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: The other thing I worry about, though, is the receivers

510
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 2: like him, these bigger guys. The cliff does come very

511
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: quickly for them normally, right, So I do worry that

512
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: it could hit and yes, we'll throw out all the

513
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: electrical power station. All that stuff's nonsense. What I really

514
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 2: think value wise, in my mind, I have him ranked

515
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 2: as a wide receiver three.

516
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: But I think when he's on the field.

517
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 2: He's probably going to be a wide receiver two in fantasy,

518
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: and he'll have those spiked weeks, the touchdowns. He'll be

519
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 2: up there in wide receiver one range. But really, I

520
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 2: think you're expecting that when he's in your lineup, he

521
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: could be a wide receiver two. The question is just

522
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: going to be how many games is he going to miss?

523
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: And what are you gonna do during those games? And

524
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: you can always find somebody else on the waiver, whereas

525
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: you know that flex option to get in that.

526
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: I like that DeVante Adams comp that you laid out,

527
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: you bro, Yeah, that was a very astute I think

528
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: that in terms of usage, like big upside in terms

529
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: of touchdowns.

530
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 3: I like that.

531
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a good do. I like it long term, No,

532
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a three year contract, but it's a

533
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: one year deal if you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,

534
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: let's get to the next one here on Boon's list,

535
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: Number four, Wandale Robinson, who Brian Dabole now call him,

536
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: plays for the Titans and he brings Wandell Robinson over.

537
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: So obviously target volume is the key here. Volume is

538
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: always king in fantasy, But what's the quality of that

539
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: volume here in year two for cam Ward.

540
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 2: I think that Robinson's the kind of guy that we

541
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: saw something different from him last year.

542
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: Right in past seasons.

543
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: You know, my guy Matt Harmon over at Yahoo, he

544
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: always picks on Wandell Robinson, at least he did in

545
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: the past. You know, the Mickey Mouse type like PPR

546
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: scam kind of receiver.

547
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 3: And we saw that a couple of years ago. Ninety

548
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: three catches.

549
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: Six nine yards. That's insane, like, how is that even possible?

550
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 3: Right?

551
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 2: But last year we saw them open it up a

552
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: little bit more with him, give him a little more downfield.

553
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: He still you know, he has ninety two catches, but

554
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: he has a more respectable stat line with over a

555
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: thousand yards, scores four touchdowns. And this was, you know,

556
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 2: the worst kept secret in free agency. We knew he

557
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: was going to go to Tennessee. We knew he was

558
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: going to rejoin Brian Dable, and I don't know that

559
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: there was a team that needed him, more like they

560
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: didn't go out and get somebody else big perhaps in

561
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: the draft. I mean, it seems like they're pretty locked

562
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: on Jeremiah Love in the first round.

563
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 3: We'll see if he ends up there and.

564
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 2: If he isn't available to them, if he does somehow

565
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 2: go earlier than that, maybe they'll go a receiver early.

566
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: But right now, it really looks like Robinson is going

567
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: to get a ton of volume in that offense and

568
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: have a chance to produce. Last year we saw whether

569
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: it was Shamiri DK, whether it was like a man

570
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: or like these guys were having these you know games

571
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: where they were flashing, where they were getting opportunity. Robinson

572
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: a much more proven receiver than those guys. So I

573
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: like him not as somebody that's going to win you

574
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: your league, not as somebody who's going to come in

575
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: and have a monster year, but a guy who's going

576
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: to be a nice value and be a really good,

577
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 2: you know, wide receiver three flex option with some upside.

578
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, in PPR leagues especially, And I could see him

579
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: just being that safety blanket for cam Wore. And oh look,

580
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: I like what cam Moore did in the second half too.

581
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: After I made the coaching change, things got a little

582
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: bit better for him and he played a little bit better.

583
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: And he's a hard working kid, which is what I

584
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: like about cam Wore. He takes a you know, we

585
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: knock a lot of the guys who don't have a

586
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: good work ethic, who don't seem to refocused. I don't

587
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: think any of that is ever a problem with cam Ward.

588
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: I think he's just still kind of figuring things out.

589
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: And that's that's why I'm optimistic about this Wandeale Robinson signing.

590
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: But was like you had something else to say there.

591
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, I'm hopeful that Dabel can

592
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: really improve that offense. I think they did a great

593
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: job with the coaching hires that they made this year

594
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: and day Ball coming in.

595
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: How could they go?

596
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: Certainly, I don't know if we're going to ask history

597
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: of the universe.

598
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 2: I also I don't know if we're gonna ask Debro's

599
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: thoughts on this one, because correct me if I'm wrong. Debro,

600
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 2: did we not make a Wandeale Robinson dynasty trade late

601
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: last season maybe push for the playoffs, and I sent

602
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: you maybe like a second round rookie.

603
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got, which is fair value. I'll still take

604
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: that trade even today. And this is not me shading Robinson.

605
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: I'm actually I actually want to push back a little

606
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: bit on something you said, like him not being a

607
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: league winner. If you draft this guy as a wide

608
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 4: receiver three on your team and he produces as let's

609
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: just say what he does last year wide receiver fourteen

610
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 4: and fantasy points per game. I think he absolutely can

611
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: be a league winner. And the thing that we saw

612
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 4: at Robinson that was very, very different from previous years.

613
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 4: You saw verticality in his game. He wasn't just as

614
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: like around the line of scrimmage. His a dot went

615
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: from freaking in the fives to nine point zero. You

616
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 4: saw him be able to get downtown and that was

617
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: honestly where we saw the stat lines differ from Wando Robinson.

618
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 4: So if we're talking about he lands with Brian da

619
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: Ball who did that and changed his role last year.

620
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 4: And he's competing with who Lakao Man or Shmiri DK,

621
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 4: which basically he just stle DK's role, so not even

622
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: really DKY, but he's competing with Gunner Helm and the

623
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 4: ghost of Christmas past of Calvin Ridley. Yes, please give

624
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 4: me all the one del Robinson, and I think he

625
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 4: can be a leader. Let's get to the next name

626
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: on the list, and it's a big one here.

627
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: The Super Bowl MVP is number three on Derek's list

628
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: of guys you got to have now post free agency.

629
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: So Ken Walker obviously had a great playoff run. Now

630
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: it's a matter of what he can do for the

631
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: Kansaity Chiefs and Deebro. When you talk about Walker too,

632
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: tell us about what your thoughts are, as Patrick Mahomes,

633
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: we would imagine either starts the season late or starts

634
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: at slow at the very least, and how that factors

635
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: into Kenneth Walker's fantasy value.

636
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 4: I mean, let's even play out the case scenario where

637
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 4: Justin Field starts for the first four games. I think

638
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 4: that that could easily be in play. And you're gonna

639
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 4: tell me, does Andy Reid definitively buck the trend of

640
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 4: being a pass first offense. We don't think he's gonna

641
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: let Fields go out there and sling it forty five

642
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: freaking times. So if that were to happen too, this

643
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 4: offense is gonna revolve around Ken Walker and Andy Reid

644
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 4: is incredibly stubborn. Is this going to be a run

645
00:26:59,359 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 4: first offense?

646
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: No?

647
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 4: Are they going to run the ball more? Possibly because

648
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 4: they actually have a running back that can do that.

649
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: And when I said I was so in on kN

650
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: Walker last year, I guess I must have really meant

651
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six. But the thing about Walker, it's

652
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 4: never been the talent, it's been the usage, and it's

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Speaker 4: been a little injuries along the way. And for everybody

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Speaker 4: that wants to push back on the kN Walker hype

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Speaker 4: by landing in Kansas City, like why Like he's shown

656
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Speaker 4: the ability to produce and he's been an RB one

657
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Speaker 4: in previous years in Fantasy points per game in Fantasy

658
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Speaker 4: and he's exactly what the Chiefs need. You look at

659
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: this offense last year, second lowest explosive run rate, they

660
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Speaker 4: had the lowest miss tackle rate, and the entire freaking NFL.

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Speaker 4: They ran the tenth highest zone rushing percentage fifty one

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Speaker 4: percent of their runs, and Walker with those runs, third

663
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Speaker 4: highest explosive run rate, third, most miss tackles, force per attempt,

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Speaker 4: he's top twelve and basically every single per touch efficiency

665
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Speaker 4: metric that you could pull up, and he's a plus

666
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Speaker 4: in the pass games. So we're talking about receptions, touchdown totals.

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Speaker 4: Who is taking work away from him? It's not Amari

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Speaker 4: de Mercato, Nope. So Ken Walker show yeah, sign me up.

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Speaker 4: He's an RB one and Fantasy for me boone I.

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Speaker 1: Was all with the CBS boys yesterday we were talking

671
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Speaker 1: about free agency and all this stuff, and they asked

672
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Speaker 1: me where would you want to draft ken Walker? I said,

673
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Speaker 1: ideally in the third round is where I'd like to

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Speaker 1: get him, but I don't know if that's going to

675
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Speaker 1: be an option. Do you think he's going around to

676
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Speaker 1: being a second Yeah, I do think he's be a

677
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Speaker 1: lock second round pick, or maybe a late second, maybe

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Speaker 1: early third loop around.

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Speaker 2: I mean, ideally i'd take him in like the tenth

680
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Speaker 2: round if that was possible, but it's not going to

681
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 2: be possible, and I don't think the third round is

682
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: going to happen much. I think this is one of

683
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: those things where in free agency we see guys get headlines,

684
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: everybody gets excited about them, and this is the player

685
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: that everyone has been talking about the last week since

686
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: this happened, Right, everyone is excited about Kenneth Walker. People

687
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: are trying to trade it for him in Dynasty. People

688
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: are pumped to get him in redrafts. So yes, I

689
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: think he's going to be a second round pick. He's

690
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: going to continue to move up boards, and for good reason.

691
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Speaker 2: I'm with Deebro like this is a great eight spot

692
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: for him. The only question will be durability, because we've

693
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: seen him get hurt in the past and last year.

694
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Speaker 2: I also was pumping him up before the season. I

695
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: was drafting him everywhere. I took a lot of him

696
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: and Charbonnet. That didn't work out great. That was one

697
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: of my biggest l's on the year in terms of

698
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: my rankings. And to watch him late in the season

699
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: come on and finally, you know, make it happen in

700
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs, it wasn't any sort of consolation prize for me.

701
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Speaker 3: I was still upset.

702
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Speaker 2: But yes, in Kansas City, they're bringing him in to

703
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Speaker 2: get a chance to be that guy. And you can't

704
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: argue with what the Seahawks did last year slow playing

705
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: him like that because he was healthy later in the season,

706
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Speaker 2: and in the previous couple of years when they tried

707
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: to use him that way, he was getting dinged up.

708
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Speaker 2: So I hope that he can stay healthy, and I

709
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: hope that he can go out there and really early

710
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: in the year probably be the engine of that offense,

711
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: because you're either going to have a less than a

712
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: hundred percent Mahomes or you're gonna have justin fields out

713
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: there who we've seen the Justin Field show, and maybe

714
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Speaker 2: it'll be a little bit better, you know, with Andy Reid.

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Speaker 3: Calling the shots.

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Speaker 2: But I still think that this offense is going to

717
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: look a lot different earlier in the season, and Walker

718
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: is going to be a huge piece of their success

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Speaker 2: if they're having success.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid is light years ahead in terms of coaching

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Speaker 1: and quarterback understanding than anybody that even Justin Fields has

722
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Speaker 1: made eye contact with on his sidelines in the last

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Speaker 1: five years of his career. Okay, it's not even close,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not saying he's going to resurrect Fields into

725
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Speaker 1: something special. But you know what, if I was Justin Fields,

726
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Speaker 1: that's where I'd want to go. I'd want to go,

727
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Speaker 1: and I want to learn for Patrick Mahomes of I'mzaria's,

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Speaker 1: and I want to be with Andy Reid, who's been

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Speaker 1: working with quarterbacks since you go back to the Green

730
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Speaker 1: Bay days. It's not all just about the guys who

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Speaker 1: are moving on to other teams. Sometimes it's those that

732
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Speaker 1: get left behind all of a sudden have their fantasy

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Speaker 1: values changed by free agency. And one of those guys

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Speaker 1: is number three on Boons List. It's Chuba Hubbard of

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. So let's talk about Cuba. Now that

736
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Rico has left town. What are your thoughts on him?

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Speaker 2: Justin Well, I think we got to remember the context, right,

738
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Speaker 2: Like early last season, Chuba Hubbard was the lead back.

739
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Speaker 3: He got injured.

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Speaker 2: I think he rushed back because he was worried about

741
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Speaker 2: getting Wally pipped because he was out, and Rico Duda

742
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: was absolutely going off, and it seemed like when Hubbard

743
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: came back, he wasn't really the same player. And we've

744
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: seen this happen before running backs get injuries not be

745
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: as efficient the rest of the season. I think that's

746
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: what happened to him, because you look at this guy

747
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: two years ago, twenty twenty four, he finishes the RB

748
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Speaker 2: twelve and Fantasy points per game and half PPR, almost

749
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Speaker 2: twelve hundred rushing yards, forty three receptions, one hundred and

750
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: seventy one receiving yards, eleven touchdowns. He was great for

751
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Speaker 2: fantasy that year, and then last season they bring in

752
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: some legit competition. Now, who's the competition, like Jonathan Brooks,

753
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: Sorry Jonathan Brooks. Maybe, like we'll see, he's got a

754
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: long way to go to come back from these injuries.

755
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: But I think right now, We're gonna go into the

756
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: season with Chuba Hubbard as that guy again, and if

757
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: he avoids any sort of injuries, I think he could

758
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: easily be a top twelve, top fifteen fantasy back again.

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Speaker 1: All right, The next guy on our list, Debro is

760
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: another one in the same situation, Travis Etn That's right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not not changing. You had your chance.

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00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: Your chance was at the NFL Draft when he came

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00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: into the league. To change your name. That's when everyone

764
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: changes their name once you go into the draft. That's it.

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Speaker 1: You're a creole boy.

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Speaker 3: I know all that.

767
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: People can't speak Cajun.

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Speaker 1: That's not his fault, know what. You know what? Ericson

769
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: made a great point on the Tailgate yesterday, and his

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00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: point was this, how come his brother hasn't said this?

771
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: Mmm? Oh his brother was a.

772
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Speaker 4: Fourth round pick. I don't think his brother wants to

773
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: can wagon the teams like so. No. So.

774
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Speaker 1: In other words, so every time he signed a big contract. Now,

775
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: now next time Justin Boone comes on, I have to

776
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: call him Justine Bonnet. Is that what I have to

777
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: call him that? Then he comes on the show just

778
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: because he signed a big contract with Yahoo now justin

779
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Boone and he's he's a favorite of this organization.

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Speaker 2: I did have one of my football coaches back in

781
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: the day pull a prank on one of my other

782
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: coaches by telling him that weeks after we had met,

783
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: that my name was actually Bounet and the guy was like,

784
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm so sorry, and he kept calling

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00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: the for like a while after.

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Speaker 3: That before we finally called him. Yes.

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Speaker 2: I would like to also chime in on the the

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Speaker 2: Hn name thing, because I think it's you got to

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00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: think about the Cajun aspect. As you know, a kadie

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Speaker 2: who speaks French. I have been calling him Travis et

791
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: chien for a long time. It's it's a chan h Chan,

792
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's not like he says a chan.

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00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: I don't even think it's actually a chan. It's h's.

794
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be pronounced that way. It's close to

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00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: a chan. Travis h quite eight chan.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so what do you so, let's let's talk

797
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: about Bachhelle Tutan instead.

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00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: I truly love.

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Speaker 4: About getting people fluent in Cajun. This is absolutely in

800
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: my wheelhouse. I love this dude with Travis h Chan

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00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: gone Bachil toot and it's left all time man like

802
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: and and the great thing about this is all the

803
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez truthers out there are going to keep his

804
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 4: ADP and check the entirety of the off season for

805
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: everybody push him back. And is there risk here? Absolutely,

806
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: But you're telling me a guy that I can draft

807
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: as a mid to low end RB two and in

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00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: that spot you want upside. You want upside for your

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00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: team and for your roster, and Tuton has it man like?

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00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 4: Is there is there worries here that this could be

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Speaker 4: the new Seattle backfield and Tuton is the new ken

812
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: Walker and he gets just absolutely just crushed by Rodriguez

813
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 4: vulturing touchdowns. Yes, but that risk will be baked into

814
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: his ADP based off of everything We're hearing everybody out

815
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 4: on the social media streets and fantasy talking about there

816
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: is a Chris Rodriguez hive. And I'm not saying that

817
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: it's not deserved. And yes, we all know that he

818
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: was with Liam Cohen and Kentucky, we don't need you

819
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 4: to tell us that. But basie Tuton last year when

820
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Speaker 4: he was given opportunity and there was also injury that

821
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 4: was part of this so yes, we didn't see the

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00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 4: ascension to Tuton, but back half of the season when

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00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 4: we see that from rookies, he was banged up and

824
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: out of the lineup. So can we see that this year?

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00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: We want to bet on talented second year players than

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00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 4: Tuton is the guy you to be targeting and drafts.

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Speaker 4: Looking at what he did last year on a per

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Speaker 4: touch basis, once fifty five qualifying running backs, he was

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Speaker 4: top twelve and rushing success rate misstackle sports per attempt

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Speaker 4: and yards are to contact per attempt. The upside swing

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Speaker 4: you want to take at running back this year is

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00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: basial Tutin and I love the fact that they added

833
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez because it's gonna keep his ADP in check

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Speaker 4: throughout the entire of the summer.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're enjoying this conversation, remember you can keep

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Speaker 1: It's free, it's fun. You can hang out with an

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Speaker 1: amazing community of football degenerates and talk about dynasty this

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00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: time of year. You can talk about your rookie drafts,

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00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: you can talk about redraft, you can talk about all

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00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: the madness of free agency, and of course you give

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Speaker 1: me be on the shows because we have shows that

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Speaker 1: are live on there that go right to our podcast feed.

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Speaker 1: So be on the shows. Talkball with us at fantasypros

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Speaker 1: dot com slash chat. All right, let's go to number

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Speaker 1: two now after that very exciting base, shall tutant because

847
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: I got some shares myself in the Dynasty world, so

848
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: I was. And it's funny because I have Travis Chin

849
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: and I also have Bachelle Tooton on that same team.

850
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: So now love and life, now we've separated them out.

851
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: Everybody wins. It can be a beautiful thing. Also, it

852
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: could be a beautiful thing for twenty twenty six people

853
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: who have shares of one. O'marion Hampton and Justin Boone.

854
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about him, so I

855
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: know this is the guy that's getting a lot of

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00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: helium right now in the fantasy community, in redraft leagues

857
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Speaker 1: and dynasty leagues. I know the rookie was a little

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00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: disappointing with injuries, not just his but also the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: So twenty twenty six, what makes Omarion Hampton such a

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Speaker 1: big winner in your mind? After free agency is.

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00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: Settled, Well, I mean you look at what he did

862
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: last season, and I think if he didn't get hurt,

863
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: we would already be viewing him as like a top

864
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Speaker 2: five fantasy back. I don't think he even needed to

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Speaker 2: have the great offseason that he's had so far, because

866
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: you look at what he did last year RB sixteen.

867
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: He averaged thirteen point three fantasy points per game, showed

868
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: a pretty solid fantasy ceiling when he was good when

869
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: he was out there double digit fantasy points, and six

870
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: of his last seven outings, despite playing behind that like

871
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: decimated offensive line. Right they had all the injuries in

872
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: the offensive line, he kept producing. But let's go through

873
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: the list. He gets Mike McDaniel now as his offensive coordinator.

874
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: These are things most people know, but let's just make

875
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: sure it's clear. Mike McDaniel great offensive mind, gonna be

876
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: phenomenal for that rushing attack. And then they bring in

877
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: Tyler Biadish at center, they bring a Cole Strange at guard,

878
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: they bring in alec Ingol at full back, they bring

879
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: in Charlie Kohlar at tight end.

880
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: Like they just completely beefed up.

881
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: On top of the fact that, let's hope they're going

882
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: to get their two stud tackles back. Right, Let's hope

883
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: those guys are back and healthy. This offense is going

884
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: to be amazing. This is an offense that you want

885
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: to invest in, and Marion Hampton was drafted to be

886
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: that guy.

887
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 3: I'm not scared.

888
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: About Keaton Mitchell joining the team because you can have

889
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: a second back, you can have that change of pace

890
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: guy out there. Keith Mitchell is not a high volume player.

891
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: He's somebody that can be a really smart piece on

892
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 2: an offense if you use him correctly. I think Mike

893
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: McDaniel will use him correctly. But Omaron Hampton is going

894
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: to be the workhorse there and he is potentially you

895
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: don't want to talk well league winners. I think this

896
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: is a guy that definitely is going to be a

897
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: league winner in twenty twenty six.

898
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: All right, So Marion Hampton, I know Debro and I

899
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: are very excited about him as well. Which brings us

900
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 1: to the number one winner here on the boys list

901
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: for a post free agency, the guys that now a

902
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: free agency is done, I have a clear path to

903
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: maybe some fantasy expansion going forward in twenty twenty six,

904
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: and I'm going to give you a chance here, Deebro

905
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: in case you want to change them. No, I'm not

906
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: changing it now that I'm not changing all right.

907
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna talk abo.

908
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: Number one was before the breaking news of Jalen Waddell

909
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: and all the other stuff. So your number one was

910
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: Malik Willis, which I get. You know, yesterday when I

911
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: was on that show on CBS, Jamie Eisberg was talking

912
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: about He's like, look, you know, there are certain quarterbacks

913
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: I think are gonna be better, and like Kyler Murray, I

914
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: think I'd rather have his my quarterback. But in fantasy,

915
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: I want Malik Willis because he's just going to run

916
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: a ton And I think all we've done now is

917
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: just solidify the fact that, yeah, he is going to

918
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: run and run some more and run some more, and

919
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: it's Stevan Hm and it's going to be Malik Willis.

920
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they will draft a wide receiver with

921
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: one of these many picks that they have now when

922
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: they have a bunch of so I'm not too concerned.

923
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: But we are in that weird in between, So talk

924
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: to me about your thoughts on what Malik Willis is

925
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: now in his first run really as a starter, after

926
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: a couple of years in Green Bay, sitting back and

927
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: kind of improving his game and developing well.

928
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: First of all, with the Wattle news breaking, we have

929
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: to talk about the depth chart and stuff. Greg Dolcich

930
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: I think is a serviceable pass catcher and I'm not

931
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: hanging all my hopes on him. But now we're discussing

932
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: a team that we look at the depth charts as

933
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: currently composed. Well, they're not a finished product. The NFL

934
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 4: Draft is coming and this team has oh let's see

935
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: here now, two first round picks, a second round pick,

936
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: and now they have four thirds. They're drafting pass catchers

937
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 4: in this draft, and we talk about what's the strength

938
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: and the skill set standpoint from a fantasy angle, it's

939
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 4: not the quarterbacks this draft. It's not the running backs.

940
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: It's not the tight ends. Oh that's right, it's the

941
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: wide receivers. So they probably draft a guy in the

942
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: first round. Denzel Boston, come on down to Miami, love it.

943
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 4: Take him at back into the first round. Spind your

944
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: second round pick on wide receiver or one of these thirds,

945
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 4: go get Ted Hurst, Chris Brasel or Bryce Lance and

946
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: we're off to the races. Dude, you got speed and

947
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: they have pass catchers. I think they're going to address this,

948
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: and so I'm not worried about it. If anything, right now,

949
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: if you're doing early Best Ball drafts or in Diynasa

950
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 4: leagues or what have you, Malik Willis the cost is

951
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 4: going to be suppressed as a QB two because of

952
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: all these worries. The offensive line is solid. I'm not

953
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: telling you it's top twelve, but it is solid. They

954
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 4: played really good last year. They're young. I think it's

955
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: going to be workable again this year. And now we

956
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: haven't even discussed Malik Willis's rushing upside over the last

957
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 4: two years. Like, this guy has given us rushing equity

958
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 4: when he's been starting six games started, He's averaged forty

959
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: four point eight rushing yards per game over the last

960
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: three seasons. Amongst quarterbacks that would have ranked first, fourth,

961
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: and third. So we're expecting top five rushing production. Okay,

962
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 4: and then you add that to the passing prowess. And

963
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: I know we have a small sample, but Malik Willis

964
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 4: over the last two years, he has one hundred and

965
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 4: eighteen dropbacks, eighty nine passing attempts. On those attempts, five

966
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 4: point six percent big time throw rate. Last year amongst

967
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 4: all the quarterbacks at least one hundred and ten dropbacks,

968
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: that would have been eighth best, right ahead of Caleb Williams.

969
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: His ten point nine yards per attempt over the last

970
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: two years that would rank first amongst quarterbacks. And am

971
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: I projecting he's going to be a top twelve NFL passer? No,

972
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: but this all goes back to can he be serviceable

973
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: and the rushing equity carry the day for Malik willis

974
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 4: absolutely So that's the case, and he runs They add

975
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 4: pass catchers in the draft. How is he not if

976
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: he stays healthy a top twelve fantasy quarterback on a

977
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: points per game basis and you're drafting him a QB two,

978
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: how is he not?

979
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Guys, We've seen the worst quarterbacks with rushing ability finish

980
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: as a QB one in fantasy, so he definitely can

981
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: do that. I have some concerns about like his dynasty

982
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: value and whether he's going to remain a starter. Like

983
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are looking at it

984
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: and going, oh, we've seen a bunch of backup quarterbacks

985
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: get another opportunity, and you know, whether it was Sam

986
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: Darnell or these other guys get the opportunity, excel in it,

987
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: and then be the real long term option for their

988
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: team moving forward. I don't know that Wilson is going

989
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: to be that guy, but that doesn't matter. We're looking

990
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: at him for fantasy, and Debro hit the nail on

991
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 2: the head that for fantasy, it doesn't matter what pass

992
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: catchers are, to be honest, because of the rushing ability,

993
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: he is going to be out there and be somebody

994
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: that you can consider starting.

995
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: It's funny. I almost imagine him going or Dynasty Leagues

996
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: this offseason from the guy that he was like, Oh yeah,

997
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: I want to acquire Malik Willis. Let's all get on

998
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: that Malik Willis trade, and now they have people will

999
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: acquired them going oh no, what's happening here? There's nothing

1000
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: around him, It's all falling apart. I wonder if you

1001
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: could actually, if you missed out on that round one

1002
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: buy of Malik Willis, maybe you could buy that round too,

1003
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: like or if somebody was holding him for hostage, like no, no, no,

1004
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about Malik was Maybe just maybe this

1005
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: is a second chance for to buy him in Dynasty

1006
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: if you want, all right, Number one on Justin Boone's list,

1007
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: no more anticipation, no more waiting, justin Boone, who do

1008
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: you have?

1009
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: I will say I was surprised that this guy had

1010
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: as good of a season as he had. It didn't

1011
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: really seem like it in the moment. Ashton genty for

1012
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: the Raiders. Just a nightmare first season in terms of

1013
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator change and the offensive line issues and

1014
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: the quarterback struggles around him. And at the end of

1015
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: the year, you look and he had over thirteen hundred

1016
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: scrimmage yards, he had ten total touchdowns, was the RB

1017
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: seventeen in Fantasy points per game in half PPR. And

1018
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: now you go, Okay, they're improving on the offensive line.

1019
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: They're bringing in Clink Kubiak, who I think we all

1020
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: have a lot of faith in in terms of, you know,

1021
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: what he can do as a play caller. There, they're

1022
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: gonna figure out their quarterback situation. They're going to draft

1023
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: a quarterback, likely Fernando.

1024
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: Mendoza number one overall.

1025
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: So what's going to happen this year when all of

1026
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: a sudden the environment around him improved. If he was

1027
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: able to produce like that last season, now you're gonna

1028
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: have a much better environment. To me, that just boils

1029
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: down to a very high end fantasy campaign at a

1030
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: guy who's gonna have a shot to be potentially top two,

1031
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: top three fantasy running back at the end of the year.

1032
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: All right, So there you have it, everybody, that's the

1033
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: top ten here for Justin Boone and Derek Brown, the

1034
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: guys that they think free agency has really up their

1035
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: fantasy value. Some guys just by addition by subtraction, some

1036
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: guys addition to new teams that could improve their fantasy stock.

1037
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: What do you think we'd like to hear from you?

1038
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: Drop your comments below in the YouTube channel. What's your

1039
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: favorite player from free agency that has really now changed

1040
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: their value on the positive swing for you after free

1041
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: agency is now over? And of course don't forget to

1042
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: subscribe to the channel. We're trying to get to three

1043
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: hundred thousand this year. We can do it with your help.

1044
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: We're getting real close to it too, as long as

1045
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: great guests like Justin Boone keep popping in and talking

1046
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: with us as well. Boonie, congratulations on the extension. We

1047
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: love you well earned. We're all very excited when you

1048
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: went over from the Score to Yahoo and we're all

1049
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: still very excited for you. To repeat as champion again

1050
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six in the rankings competition. Man, thanks

1051
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: for hanging out with us today. We appreciate it.

1052
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. I reciprocate that love. It's always

1053
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: fun hanging out and talking to you. And yeah, I

1054
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: will say right after the season, it didn't take long.

1055
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: My wife mentioned, She goes, I know what you're gonna

1056
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: do next year. You're gonna get yourself fired up and

1057
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 2: try to repeat. That's gonna be the motivation. And she's

1058
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: probably right. That will be the fire under me next season.

1059
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: And you nailed it there too. Yeah, this is the

1060
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: man she married.

1061
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: She had to know what you were. We knew. We

1062
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: could have warned her, but she didn't ask us. Otherwise

1063
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: we would have told her to run, run for the

1064
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: hills away from that. That's wonderful man, Debro. I'll see

1065
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: you on the Tailgate later this week. We got a

1066
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: big draft show again. Go over to YouTube, subscribe to

1067
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: the Tailgate right now. That is our new channel. And

1068
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: I want to appreciate everybody who's already gone over there

1069
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: supported dropped great comments too. He's got some great shows

1070
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: talking free agency, talking NFL Draft, just talking ball man

1071
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: and it is a great time too, so join us

1072
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: for that. That's kind of the show after the show,

1073
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. That's the tone of

1074
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: what doing. So not quite as straight laced as we

1075
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: are in Fantasy pro So if you look at for

1076
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: more ball talk, go check us out at the tailgate.

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