WEBVTT - Rear-ended while drunk driving

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<v Speaker 1>Pat you guys, what's up? Before we jump into a

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<v Speaker 1>story that's one of the lowest moments of my musical career,

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<v Speaker 1>A story worth telling with a message worth hearing at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the story, it's a happy ending, and promise.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get into that, I want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that this is the moment, this right here today, as

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<v Speaker 1>you watch, listen, wherever you are in the world, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the moment for me when I say, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to tell you I have new music out right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We just announced a brand new album that comes out

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty fifth. It's called The Country Things, Volume one.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a little side note, as you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>if it says volume one, there's probably going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a volume two. We'll announce that later. But right now,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm worried about telling you is the album is announced.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes out September twenty fifth. Two songs are out

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<v Speaker 1>right now, two brand new songs. It's called One of

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<v Speaker 1>them is called Country Things. The other one is called

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<v Speaker 1>Hate You Like I Love You. I love both of

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<v Speaker 1>these songs. I'm excited. They're both very different in their

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<v Speaker 1>own right Country Things Is. You can't compare the two

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<v Speaker 1>they're very different. They live in the same family, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're very different content wise, stylistically, the same family content wise,

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<v Speaker 1>two completely different stories. And I'm interested to see what

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<v Speaker 1>you think. If you want to comment below, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching on YouTube, comment below and tell me what you

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<v Speaker 1>think of these two songs. And you can find them

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere you find music, anywhere you find music, wherever your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite place to listen to music is, whether that's YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>or Spotify, or Amazon or Pandora or Apple Music, your

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<v Speaker 1>friend's garage, wherever you listen to music, wherever you find music,

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<v Speaker 1>these days, you could find these two songs. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna ask you guys to do as fans

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast, as listeners of this podcast, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple caught actions that you could do to help. On

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Music, you could pre ad so you can go

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<v Speaker 1>and pre add the whole album Country Things, Volume one.

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<v Speaker 1>On Spotify, you could pre save. On the iTunes store,

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<v Speaker 1>you could pre order, and on Amazon Music you could

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<v Speaker 1>pre order. So if you do that, I say, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a Spotify account and you go and you pre

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<v Speaker 1>saved my album, or you have an Apple Music account

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<v Speaker 1>and you go and pre add my album that matters,

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<v Speaker 1>that puts it into this little statistic that then the

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<v Speaker 1>people at Spotify or Apple Music or Amazon and Pandora,

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<v Speaker 1>that those people see it and they go, oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>people really like this album. We better push it up

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<v Speaker 1>so more people could hear it. It's important push it

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<v Speaker 1>out there. That's how that algorithm works. And so first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost, before I get into this podcast, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you about that. I hope, at the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>the very least, if you don't want to do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to pre save it or pre

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<v Speaker 1>add it or pre order it, or least, I just

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<v Speaker 1>hope you give it a chance and you listen to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You listen to give Me a verse and chorus, Listen

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<v Speaker 1>to a verse and chorse of country Things, Listen to

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<v Speaker 1>a verse and chorus of hate you like I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you dig it, if you want to hear more,

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<v Speaker 1>follow the lead here. But I just hope that you

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<v Speaker 1>could relate to these songs. I hope that the stories

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<v Speaker 1>speak to you. I hope it matters to you like

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<v Speaker 1>it matters to me, because then that that that fulfills

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<v Speaker 1>me as a musician more than anything. If songs are

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to people and messages are getting out and people

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<v Speaker 1>can relate, connect to a story or a melody. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes it feel all worth it, It really does. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for listening to the podcast. I'm bringing back my

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<v Speaker 1>old drummer, my current Geegee Apparel warehouse manager Caleb Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>He has an amazing story. We had some really low

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<v Speaker 1>times professionally and in our friendship. He brought it all

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<v Speaker 1>around full circle. God brought it around full circle if

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<v Speaker 1>you believe that, which I do. And then he saw

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<v Speaker 1>the silver lining, the happy ending, the light at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the tunnel. Everything came back to him. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he's not perfect, he's not out of the woods. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not absolutely wonderfully happy. No one is. But he came

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<v Speaker 1>out of a really, really dark place and found his

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<v Speaker 1>way back to life again. And that's the message I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to hear today. Welcome to the podcast, Episode

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven. Ye Ye did chant in DC, moun Times

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<v Speaker 1>and school long Line, I'm fool up and Down going

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<v Speaker 1>back Rangy co watch evage, Yeah the gation. First thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say is if you if you're new to this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to stop right now, don't listen or watch

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<v Speaker 1>this one and go back to episode forty six. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called I called the Cops of My Drummer. Watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to that one, and then come back and then

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<v Speaker 1>meet us back here, because I want you to get

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<v Speaker 1>the backstory on Kyle Kelly and the way that I

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<v Speaker 1>ended that when I called the Cops of My Drummer,

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<v Speaker 1>which is true story, not clickbait. I called the cops

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<v Speaker 1>of my drummer, which was you a crazy night in Flagstaff, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell that whole story, why it happened, and as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned yesterday here at Eue Apparel, that it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to tell that story so that people know the full

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<v Speaker 1>the full circle of what happened that night. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just you were crazy, you got drunk and you had

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy night and things turned bad. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more to it, and so we were able on

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<v Speaker 1>episode forty six to go through all those details. But

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with episode forty six is the way I

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<v Speaker 1>ended it, and I didn't even really realize that I

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<v Speaker 1>ended it the way I did. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people listened to that. That was a very popular episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the first time I've ever followed up

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<v Speaker 1>with an episode the next week with the same guest.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem with that episode is was I ended

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<v Speaker 1>it with the cliffhanger, not meaning to saying that everything

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard so far wasn't as bad as what was

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<v Speaker 1>to come. That finally got Caleb Kelly out of the band,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to bring you back to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So bad the story glad to me because it's also

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that, yes, this incident, this incident we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, got you out of the band, not the

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<v Speaker 1>one that I called the cops on. But the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>thing is is that you still work for us, with

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<v Speaker 1>us every day. I see you more than my current drummer, Dusty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I see you every day. You're the warehouse manager

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<v Speaker 1>here at EE Apparel, and that that incident, which was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you started playing drums for me in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot has happened in eight years, the evolution

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<v Speaker 1>of us as friends, and it's a really cool story.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for being back. Two weeks in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally pulled you out of the warehouse. You were

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<v Speaker 1>completely sweating because it's hot in here. We have this

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<v Speaker 1>fall launch coming up next a couple of weeks September

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth and so you've been getting all the backstories, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been getting all the palettes of new merch coming in

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<v Speaker 1>through the shipments, and so this is the this is

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<v Speaker 1>the go time for you. The shippers will have hell

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<v Speaker 1>on it's eighteenth, but you have hell right now getting

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<v Speaker 1>everything out organized, right, trying to say one step ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of what they need before they get the order out

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<v Speaker 1>the door. So yeah, we've got a lot of boxes

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<v Speaker 1>and pallets and items coming in. So no air conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>in the warehouse, No, No, it's you experience the elements. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good though I had a change shirt because it

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<v Speaker 1>was a little Norley. You clean up nice. So before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into the night, that ended us playing music

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<v Speaker 1>together at least for now, as there might be more

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more music down the road, but for now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's other stories that happened to that I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to bring up, and there might be some of

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<v Speaker 1>them forgetting, but I wanted to bring up one eared Doug.

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<v Speaker 1>One ear Doug. That was do you want to take anywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll set it up. But I can't finish it because

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<v Speaker 1>I was technically sleeping in the van back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day when we were pushing back every Saturday night when

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<v Speaker 1>we would play a show, me and the band would

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<v Speaker 1>push back that same night to try to make it home,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were most of the time successful. We would

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<v Speaker 1>get home usually by the time the sun was coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter where we were coming from in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas or Oklahoma, we would get back home or

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<v Speaker 1>ride around sunrise. And if we beat the sun coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good Saturday night. It was good. If

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<v Speaker 1>we got home at nine or ten am, it was devastating.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so tiring. But what we would do was

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<v Speaker 1>we would switch off driving and we would pick our

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<v Speaker 1>drivers after the show, no before the show, so we

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<v Speaker 1>knew how much alcohol we can consu Originally it was

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<v Speaker 1>after the show, and then we noticed that if you

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<v Speaker 1>just got hammered, you couldn't be a driver for the

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<v Speaker 1>first right, So we were like, this isn't going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>We we'll pick it before the show. So we used

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<v Speaker 1>everything from driver's license to hotel keys. I remember doing

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<v Speaker 1>hotel keys and we would write our names on them

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<v Speaker 1>and put them up in the visor of the van,

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<v Speaker 1>and then before the show we would just draw names.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a car dealer in Vegas. We would draw in

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<v Speaker 1>pairs so We would say, all right, Shift one is

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<v Speaker 1>Todd and Caleb. Shift two Granger and Tyler, whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would pick usually about four shifts. It depended on

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<v Speaker 1>how far we were driving the shifts. We were very

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<v Speaker 1>strict about it. There were two hour shifts. You and

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<v Speaker 1>your partner would pick who was going to drive and

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<v Speaker 1>who was going to navigate. The only rule was the

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<v Speaker 1>navigator could not sleep at all, could not sleep, and

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<v Speaker 1>you could switch. You could switch off ten minute shifts.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't matter you picked. You had your two hour slot,

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<v Speaker 1>which is by design the length of a movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in case you wanted to watch a movie and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else could just chill out, they could watch the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>they could sleep. The first shift was amazing. You're fresh

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<v Speaker 1>off the stage, you've loaded the trailer, hit the road,

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<v Speaker 1>drive for two hours. You're done. Second shift was terrible

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<v Speaker 1>because just when two hours goes by after loading the

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<v Speaker 1>trailer in two hours on the road was like just

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<v Speaker 1>the time when you start getting tired. It takes two

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<v Speaker 1>hours just to get tired, so you could get tired.

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<v Speaker 1>And then third shift wasn't bad because now you've rested

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<v Speaker 1>for four hours. You've been bumping around in the back

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<v Speaker 1>in the bunk in the back of the van and

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of want to drive anyway. Yeah, this particular night,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe we were in Schneider, Texas. That's the town

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that we played no that we were driving

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<v Speaker 1>to one year Doug. Yeah, where were that RV sign?

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<v Speaker 1>Big Bread. What we did in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>night was we always when we needed a pea stop,

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<v Speaker 1>because you got, what were seven of us, probably seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight five yeah, seven exactly, so seven of us.

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<v Speaker 1>There was multiple pea stops that we had to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but we didn't. It wasn't worth going to a gas

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<v Speaker 1>station just to pee. It just took too long, find

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<v Speaker 1>a parking spot, there could be a line, somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take too long because they're buying something in the aisles.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was way easier to do what we called

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<v Speaker 1>a desert pea basically because most of Texas is the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>We would just pull off on the side and the

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<v Speaker 1>darkness and everyone would pile out and just pee in

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<v Speaker 1>the grass. That's just how it was. So here we are,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm setting the scene for your story. We're outside of Snyder, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, on a random Saturday night, pushing home stop

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<v Speaker 1>for a desert pee. I was not on shift, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the middle bench trying to sleep. You

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<v Speaker 1>never really sleep, but I was trying to sleep and

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<v Speaker 1>the guys get out to go pee, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was you and Tyler on the shift. No, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was Tyler and Johnny. You weren't okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the first bench asleep right there where the

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<v Speaker 1>door had opened. Gotcha, gotcha. So during this desert pea

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<v Speaker 1>we meet one eared Doug. So what happened was here's

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<v Speaker 1>here's where it picks up for me. I'm like laying

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<v Speaker 1>with my feet facing towards the sliding door and I

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, like like sit up real quick, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>some dude had bent his truck around one of those

0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:30.720
<v Speaker 1>like double poles. It holds up one of those big signs,

0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I jump out. Tyler and Johnny are there,

0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, let's go. I don't know why

0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't wearing shoes. I realized once I got there.

0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.360
<v Speaker 1>But we run over to this truck. You were barefoot. Yeah,

0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the first time I hear that. Yeah, it was dumb.

0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I only remember because there was glass everywhere, but it

0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, like it wasn't It didn't cut

0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.200
<v Speaker 1>my feet, thank god. But we go over there and uh,

0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.920
<v Speaker 1>we say, this is the middle of nowhere, boy, yeah,

0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Black Texas, nut town, inside middle of nowhere, middle up

0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.920
<v Speaker 1>two am. Yeah it was like that. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>early and my first week with you guys. This was

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<v Speaker 1>the after the last show, our first week. So he

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<v Speaker 1>wraps his truck around this pole, run over there, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>to the driver's side and pull open the door and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously not wearing a seatbelt because here's the driver's side

0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and he's all the way up against that window, kind

0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of leaned up against there. And I go in there

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<v Speaker 1>and I grab his arm. I'm like okay, you okay,

0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and he looks at me and he's just like because

0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>he had broken his jaw and it was like back

0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and hanging down to the side. And uh, that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the worst part though. Uh. The other part was his

0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.440
<v Speaker 1>ear was hanging off and there was only like a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. It was like down here. So I grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>him like, car, you're all right, and he kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. He's not saying anything. I mean he might

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<v Speaker 1>have been saying something. Yeah, I couldn't tell what he

0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:08.760
<v Speaker 1>was saying, because the jow was broken and his ears

0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:13.240
<v Speaker 1>hanging off his head and he was like, ah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was one ear Doug. We so his name wasn't Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>but you named him Doug. Yeah, one ear Doug. If

0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.040
<v Speaker 1>his name is Doug, that would be kind of cool. Yeah,

0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:31.880
<v Speaker 1>nailed it, but it's probably not Doug. So I don't

0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.400
<v Speaker 1>think one year Doug's listening to this podcast. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are buddy, First of all, I'm sorry. I didn't mean

0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to laugh at you. But at the same time, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we might have saved your life. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what would have happened. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>was just I don't think he was bleeding out too bad.

0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.000
<v Speaker 1>He was just laying up against I mean, maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>would have. And and to set the scene too, it

0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.040
<v Speaker 1>was we're on this two lane highway in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas, but this and the guys are peeing off

0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the two lane highway. But this happened in the service

0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:10.920
<v Speaker 1>road where the where the billboard was. So I mean,

0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.440
<v Speaker 1>of all places to be standing there peeing in the

0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.600
<v Speaker 1>middle of nine on side of the road, of all

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<v Speaker 1>places for a drunk driver to come flying down the

0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.320
<v Speaker 1>service road and wreck. It was right here, in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere. So at that point he had just

0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.680
<v Speaker 1>got in a fight with his with his girl, right, yeah,

0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.720
<v Speaker 1>he had. He had left like stormed out. We found

0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.600
<v Speaker 1>out later, well, he wrapped his truck around there. We

0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.159
<v Speaker 1>pulled him out, pull him out, and he's like, it's hanging.

0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.560
<v Speaker 1>And then some car pulls up and uh, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was his daughter or his significant other,

0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.880
<v Speaker 1>but she's like, he's he's okay, he's he's fine, he's fine.

0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't think so she's like, no,

0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.600
<v Speaker 1>he's fine, he'll come with me. He's fine with the

0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.440
<v Speaker 1>truck was fine. And I was like, man, I really

0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's okay, and she's like, no, trust me,

0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:06.159
<v Speaker 1>he's fine. I'll take him with me. It's not a

0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.639
<v Speaker 1>big deal. And I was like, look at him, and

0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:13.199
<v Speaker 1>she looks at him and he's ah, and she just

0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:18.959
<v Speaker 1>she was like, oh, christ upped up and starts crying

0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.720
<v Speaker 1>and she so she didn't see him until you said that. No,

0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.560
<v Speaker 1>she probably saw his good side, okay, And then he

0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.159
<v Speaker 1>turned around and the ears just dangling there and his

0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.359
<v Speaker 1>jaws all bode So then she was like then she

0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:37.880
<v Speaker 1>started crying. But then like the cops showed up. Uh

0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you remember the cops circle. I don't know who called

0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the cops. Uh must have been so I bet you

0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Tyler called him, probably because remember then city cops showed

0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.800
<v Speaker 1>up and they were like, uh, what's outside the city

0:18:55.119 --> 0:19:00.760
<v Speaker 1>And then dude that was a mess share office showed

0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.439
<v Speaker 1>up and was like, it's not my jurisdiction neither. Yeah,

0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.320
<v Speaker 1>So then DPS showed up. He was not in the

0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.760
<v Speaker 1>mood to be there. All they called. They said, you're right,

0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and that guy said, it's not it's not my jurisdiction.

0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.720
<v Speaker 1>So then they called DPS. But remember it took him

0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:18.199
<v Speaker 1>an hour to get there because he was asleep and

0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:23.240
<v Speaker 1>there was one Texas State trooper available in that county

0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and he was asleep, so they had to call him

0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:30.000
<v Speaker 1>wake him up because he was the only guy that could.

0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know all you police officers listening, I don't

0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.359
<v Speaker 1>know what it is he had to do, but he

0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.440
<v Speaker 1>had to get his eyes on the scene. Yeah. I

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:43.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know how what who, like whose responsibility it was,

0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>but they were like the city was like, it's not us,

0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.359
<v Speaker 1>it's county. County was like it's not us, it's DPS.

0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.080
<v Speaker 1>And then DPS was gonna show up. But the Sheriff's

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 1>office dude was like, he said, okay, what happened? We

0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 1>were like, all right, Well he wrapped his truck around

0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.719
<v Speaker 1>this thing. We pulled him out and we saw and

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.640
<v Speaker 1>he was like holding this. I'll never he's just holding

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 1>his bad He's like zero, yeah, very matter of fact.

0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Zero got that point holding Yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah,

0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I already knew that. Picked up on that. Uh yeah,

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that was interesting. So we had to stay as a band.

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.440
<v Speaker 1>By this time, we're all up. Anyone else that was

0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.679
<v Speaker 1>asleep is now up. And like I said, we always

0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.639
<v Speaker 1>wanted to push back and make make home before the

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.480
<v Speaker 1>sun came up. Well, we had to stay for the

0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.080
<v Speaker 1>DPS officer to arrive because we were the only witnesses

0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and they needed to get a statement from us. And

0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.200
<v Speaker 1>there was, as you know, you've probably been in a

0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.800
<v Speaker 1>situation before, there's no getting out of this making a statement.

0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:43.960
<v Speaker 1>You know. As much as we wanted to just go okay,

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:48.119
<v Speaker 1>you got it, were no. We had to wait. We

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.400
<v Speaker 1>had to wait for the DPS to fill up the report,

0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and that took an hour for him just to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think he lived forty five minutes away, plus

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:56.919
<v Speaker 1>give him fifteen minutes to wake up and put his

0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 1>clothes on, and then he gets there. Then you guys

0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:05.040
<v Speaker 1>had to tell the whole story again again to him,

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.199
<v Speaker 1>and it set us back a good two hours. Just

0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.879
<v Speaker 1>stopping to pee one time set us back two hours

0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and get us home late. But if you if you're Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this podcast and you're Ever in Snyder, Texas,

0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:26.680
<v Speaker 1>walking around and you see a man, middle aged, kind

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of thin, one ear might be and one ear, one

0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:32.840
<v Speaker 1>ear looks a little bit different, like maybe it's been

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.760
<v Speaker 1>reattached with some stitches, just go introduce yourself, say hey,

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.040
<v Speaker 1>are you one ear? Doug. He doesn't even know that

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.560
<v Speaker 1>this podcast is exist, but probably not listen. If he is,

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 1>it's with one earbud or one headphone. He listens to

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 1>podcasts with one here one ear muff. Think they're talking

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 1>about me. All right, we'll take a quick break. We'll

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 1>be right back. More things to tell you guys about

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Right now. We have the Yee Apparel Fall launch coming

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.880
<v Speaker 1>up September eighteenth. So excited about this launch. This is

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.159
<v Speaker 1>September what an incredible month for ye Apparel. We have

0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the album Country Things coming out September twenty fifth. We

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.920
<v Speaker 1>have a brand new YEE Nation website which we are

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:27.520
<v Speaker 1>going to announce very soon that it's a member's only

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.119
<v Speaker 1>website that's going to be very exclusive. And then we

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 1>have the Ye Apparel Fall Lunch coming out on September eighteenth.

0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 1>This Fall Lunch is probably going to be our biggest

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:40.640
<v Speaker 1>launch ever. And I say that because as we've led

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 1>into these from the spring to the eye ee Day,

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>to the summer launch now the Fall Lunch in twenty twenty,

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>they've gotten progressively more and more exclusive, more and more popular.

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>The reason this is almost a warning for the podcast

0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>listeners that it by ten am when we put this

0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.200
<v Speaker 1>on sale on ye apparel dot com or ee dot com. Also,

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna go fast, and we're gonna have some exclusive

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 1>merch from really really well thought out pieces for ee apparel,

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:12.480
<v Speaker 1>hats and shirts and merchandise, and it's gonna go quickly.

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.919
<v Speaker 1>So make sure put on your phones, put on your

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>calendar on September eighteenth that at ten am you're gonna

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 1>want to log into this website EE dot com or

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 1>eye Apparel dot com and get what you want, because

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to go there and go I

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>want a large of this and you click and it

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 1>says sold out and you're gonna be disappointed. I'm really

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>excited about it. This has some awesome merch. So we'll

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 1>see you guys fall on September eighteenth. I'm sure there's

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot more stories that we could tell one of

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>these days. On another podcast, we chased a lot of no,

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say chased, but we've followed a lot of

0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>drunk drivers at three four o'clock in the morning just

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>because we're out, we're in our van and we would

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.120
<v Speaker 1>see something, you know, see a guy swerving all over

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the place, and so it would kind of be almost

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 1>something to do for us to call it in and

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 1>we would just we would be heading west on some

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>road and just keep just keep on going until finally

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 1>someone arrived. And that was always some excitement, and we

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.439
<v Speaker 1>have there's just so many stories that happened in the

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 1>middle of the night, and when you're a band traveling,

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you see them and that kind of includes you. Yeah,

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>my drummer and I want to tell the story about

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the final night of us playing music together. The story

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about in the last episode, and we

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>had had I also want to slightly defend myself that

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't just cutting you off, because we had a

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of events like Flagstaff, none that bad, but we had,

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, several occasions where we had to kind of

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>sweep things under the rug because we did it in

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>front of a club owner or a promoter or a

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>radio person, and and you went off the handle on

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>something because of your current mental state. And we had

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 1>just we were in a good place at this time, right,

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>we had arrived at a a good time in your

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>life and your mental health. And I can't say enough

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that if you haven't heard the previous episode, you got

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to you got to listen to that because I don't

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>want to explain it all again. But you had been

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>through a bunch. You'd had a lot of loss in

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>your life. You lost your two brothers, which which is

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>it is your life, you know, when you have your brothers,

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that is your life, and you lost it, and you

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 1>were on a road to recovery, and you were in

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a good place, the best place that I had known you,

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and everyone felt great about it, and then this night happened. Yeah, yeah,

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I'd even been i'd been going to see a grief counselor,

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'll never forget that on this day, I went

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to go see this grief counselor and I was like

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>smiling and just in a good mood. And then she

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, you're smiling. I was like, I feel good. Yeah,

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel good. I'm comfortable enough to say that today

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel good and she was like, that's good. It's

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>really it's good to hear You've been even working on

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:06.439
<v Speaker 1>this for months. So oddly enough, that was that was

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the day right after I've said I feel good today,

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm hopeful. So that was is it Tuesday or Wednesday?

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>It was a Tuesday. We were supposed to roll out

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>today the next day for our run that week. And

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>so I leave that grief counselor in a super happy mood, hopeful,

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and got home. And I'm not going to get into

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the details of what happened or what I discovered because

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>because the kids are are old enough to maybe find this,

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think you know, you never want someone

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>making fun of or making light of your parent, Like

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>is I don't want the kids too? You know, you

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want someone making fun of your kids parents. Even

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>if you don't, even if you don't like that person

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>or you don't have the best opinion of that person,

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>you know you need to step back and think of like,

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 1>how would this affect the kids. So it's with that

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>thought in mind that I'm not going to go over details,

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>but I'll just say that it was bad enough to

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>where that the betrayal was bad enough to where that

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>was that was it for me. You know your marriage

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>was going to come to an end because of this

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>event that happened. Yes, and that's that's we just won't

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>discuss the event. Yeah, I'm no, And that's I'm okay

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>with saying something happened and that marriage is over, and

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll leave it at that out of respect for my kids,

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>because you know, you can't dog your kids. You can't

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>dog the other if you're a part of a divorce family,

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't dog the other person in front of your kids.

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't do anything for them. In fact, it damages them.

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't matter for this story. It doesn't matter.

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:31.239
<v Speaker 1>What matters to this story is how you reacted to

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that event that eventually led to your divorce exactly so

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that happened or I get home, I leave uh and

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and just and I'm just like, I gotta get out

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of here, go somewhere. I just got to go somewhere.

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>This is a there's a lot to process what was

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>going on in my mind at that time, which suck

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>because I just walked out of that uh, out of

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that counselor's office, thinking I'm happy, I'm smiling. She had

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>just noticed that I was smiling and I hadn't done

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that for I had been going to there for a while.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>So then to come home and just and it was

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>out of the blue, like it was one of those

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't see it coming at all. So

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I got to get out of here,

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and I take off and just start driving west. I

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know where I was going west ish

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>northwest is ish, I guess, and uh, you know, admittedly

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>start started drinking along the way. I was just my

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>mind was blown at at at what had what I

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>just discovered. And on top of like the boys, because

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't too far down road that I discovered this,

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>So it was a lot to try and process. I

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>just got to a place where I was like I'm

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>getting better. And then this it was like coming out

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of the water, you know, coming out of cold ocean

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>water where you're drowning and your head gets above the

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>surface and someone's there with a pot of boiling water.

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like it didn't didn't get any better, it was

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>another into another bad situation. So so, yeah, I just

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>started driving, and you're probably going to Colorado. Yeah, somewhere

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in your mind, you were driving northwest to Colorado from Texas. Yeah,

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was going to go either to I

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>was going to go to mountains, you know that. So

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>that was mine. I still don't know if this is

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>going on. And we're leaving the next day to go

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>on a tour. Yeah, and there has been times many

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>times in my career when I have to kind of

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>straddle friendship and managing several men as employers. It's employees,

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and this was a this was a big one for me.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>So so then you arrive in Abilene, Texas, right, Yeah.

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>All along the way, I wasn't going to Abilene. Uh,

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't my target, and but I was. I was

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>heading somewhere and along the way, I I had called

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and talked to you a couple of times and called

0:32:56.320 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and talked to my dad mm hmm, and uh, I

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't listen to his warning. He's like, you need to

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.959
<v Speaker 1>stop what you're doing. Find a hotel. I'll get your

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>hotel wherever you're at, and you stop stop driving. You're

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>going to get arrested, You're going to get in trouble.

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Something's going to happen. You need to stop. And I

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't listen to him. I made things worse, like what

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about. And your poor dad has always

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>given you sound advice, the right advice, many many times,

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was always like, well, but what if I

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>do it my way? And it has never never worked out? Uh. So, Yeah,

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I called to talk to you and I remember telling

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you and uh, this is when you yelled at me

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>for what I just said. You yelled at me stop

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>being my boss and just be my friend. Because I

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, dude, come back. You know we leave tomorrow

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>for tour. If we could talk this out, we could

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>work this out on the road, you know, with your brothers,

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>with your team, Like, stop being my boss and just

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>be my friend and listen to me. Yeah. I took

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that on some levels. You're right the way I took

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 1>it was that you were more concerned with me as

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>an employee then as a friend. And at that time,

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>in my mind again, maybe another situation where I don't

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>know what would I don't know what you could tell

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a person who just found that out, who would be like, oh,

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what, you're right, I'll probably come back. I

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>was about to overreact, but yeah, I'll come back. No,

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I was doing. I was in a bad in a

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>bad way. And if I would have just listened to

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you and been like, all right, yeah, I'm not going home.

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I'll just come to your place and then we'll roll

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.919
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow and you know, I'm just gonna go out on tour.

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll work this out. But that was not That was

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>not what I did. So then lead me to what happened.

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 1>So I'm on the way to somewhere and I pull

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>into Abilene and I remember pulling off the main road

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>and I was on like a feeder road and I'm

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>driving and I get rear ended, which was unfortunate, well

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple of the wasn't the most unfortunate thing that

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.439
<v Speaker 1>happened that day, but it didn't help. So I get

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>rear ended and stop the car and that guy gets

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>out he's mad at me, and and I was like

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the wrong guy on the wrong day, you know, not

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>not that I was going to. It was him and

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>a friend. So it was me against two guys. And

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not you know, I'm not super I'm not super quick,

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not I'm not scared. I could deny both

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>of those things. You just said said, yeah, yes you are,

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, uh, you know, it just didn't

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>It didn't matter. I'm not you know, you know, like

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>my goal going into any fights we talked about I

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>have way too much Mexican irish in your button. Yeah,

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm knocking back down and I'm not scared to get hurt.

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>And that day I would I would have, just like Flagstaff,

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I would have welcomed it. I don't know what the

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the I don't know why that welcoming pain into situations

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't know why that that is enticing

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>At that point. I guess you're just so frustrated that

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you're like, I don't care. I really don't care. I

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 1>don't care what happens. So I was like, let's fight. Yeah,

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, awesome. Some of these guys wanted to fight you. Yeah,

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>they were mad at me. They rear ended you. Yeah,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and then they wanted to fight you. Yeah, all right,

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>class A citizens. Yeah yeah. It was uh, it was

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was bad, but they were in me,

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>they want to fight me. The cops get called the sill,

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>they say, both of you pull over, and and the

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>cops are like, well, they're talking to him, and they

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>come over to me and they're like, we smell alcohol.

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, yeah, like what's going on? And I

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>was honest with him. I just told him, Hey, this

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>is going on, this is what's going on. Just found

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>out this about my marriage. Horrible day. These guys were

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>in me and uh, and they were like, okay, well

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go talk to this guy, but we'll be back.

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Just hang here. I remember them going to talk to

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>that the other driver, and they were like they were like, well,

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna stay with him because you know,

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:10.479
<v Speaker 1>we believe he's intoxicated. And uh, he's like what about

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 1>my car? On The cop was like, you rear ended him.

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, it was your this accident's your fault. But

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, they couldn't leave the scene with me like that,

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 1>So so they take you to jail. Yes, they do.

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 1>How did I find out about this? I forgot about jail. Yes,

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you're going to jail in Ablene, Texas. I don't know. Uh,

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that's blurry in my memory. There's a couple of things

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that are blurry, probably more blurry for your Yeah, you

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>remember more than I do. Something like this happened. I

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.959
<v Speaker 1>find out you're going to jail in Ablene, Texas. Maybe

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it was your dad or might have been my dad,

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe your ex wife have been. But you are relaying

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>to me like, hey, you know, I know I'm not

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>going to make tomorrow's show. Yeah, but can you like

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.439
<v Speaker 1>play acoustic and then I'll just join you guys. I'll

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 1>just come and meet you on Thursday. Did I even

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 1>say that? I don't even know that. I was, well, you,

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember exactly what you said, but you alluded

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 1>to not gonna be there. I'm not gonna be there,

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>but i'll be Just give me a few days and

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back. Yeah, it was my thought, and

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, dude, you can't come back. Yeah, Like

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I got to get another drummer and we got to

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>keep going. I can't. And once again to slightly defend myself.

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>This is we talked a lot on your trip to Abling. Yeah,

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't like I wasn't blindsided with this information.

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Kala, pull over, pull over, pull or

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:46.879
<v Speaker 1>come back, don't do this, don't do it. And you're

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like no, no, no, no. And then this happened, and

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>then you're like, hey, I want come back, and I

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, dude, that ship has sailed. I don't

0:39:55.360 --> 0:40:00.080
<v Speaker 1>remember that. I remember having that conversation. I mean, like

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, was there's a lot I don't remember on

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>on the way up to Abilene. Not just getting away

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>from the problem was my main goal, and and that

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen. I made things so significantly worse, not only

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>from like I got arrested, spent the night in Abilene's

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>finest hotel, uh and and then affected my job, you know,

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 1>all all that stuff negative. And then I was like, yeah,

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was it was bad. It wasn't.

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>My job wasn't on my mind on the way up

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>there to Abiline. So things are really low for you,

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and I find I go into that. We go in

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the next day, we find a last minute guy to

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>come and kind of sub play drums, not a very

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.959
<v Speaker 1>good job, but that that's actually the day that dust

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>the Saxton was getting off the road with this rock band,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Evans Blue, and was able to come fill in, which

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>he's still to this day. It's been my drummer. I

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's been seven years. And you it's funny because

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Dusty was the one that recommended you to me. Yeah,

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>because you guys have we've all been in this Texas

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>music circle. So yeah, so Dusty, there was never any

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>weirdness between Caleb and Dusty. In fact, Dusty had trouble

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>learning a lot of your songs because you're a really

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.800
<v Speaker 1>good drummer and you you have an interesting open handed style.

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But I want to say this, And so you're listening

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to this podcast, the average listener, and they're thinking, to

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>dud guy, just after you've heard the Flagstaff story, and

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>after you've heard this story, it's like, now, now you've

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>lost your job, and I've already told you, I've already

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.280
<v Speaker 1>sworn to you this has nothing to do with friendship.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>We're still going to be friends. And you were like, nah,

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you leave me like everyone else has. Then I don't

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>blame you. I would leave me too, But I want

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to say that I'm not bringing you on here on

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>this podcast to tell the bad story and then end it.

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:16.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing you on the podcast just like you told

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>me on text today you said, let's make some more lemonade.

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 1>And I want I want everyone to hear this story

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and I want them to be a little shocked and

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>be like too, this guy's that this is this is

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the end. But then on what unfolded on the next

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>several years for you was very evident. You've had a

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of blessings in your life since then. Your life

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>is on a completely different path. You have an absolutely

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>incredibly amazing wife now new wife, and amazing little boy,

0:42:55.960 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>ye who's now three years old. A side note was

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>River's best buddy, Prosper And all the things, all the

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>stories you said, especially that trip to Abiline, everything that

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>happened when your dad told you to pull over and

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 1>get a hotel and I told you to come back,

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 1>and those guys rear ended you. Everything that happened. If

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it hadn't happen just that way, you might not have

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.919
<v Speaker 1>found your new life that you have now. It had

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to play out that bad, or you might have stayed

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>in your miserable existence that you were back then. Yeah,

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>And so I want to I want to tell people

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>as are listening to this that either you could be

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>in this state of being miserable, or you could be

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you could know somebody that is, or most likely it's

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 1>coming and you don't know it's coming. Because life has

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 1>suffering in it. We all enter suffering and it would

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>come out of it and we go back into it.

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what humans do best. But it's important to hear

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>caleb story. But for some reason, I knew I just

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>knew you, and I knew your heart, I knew your soul.

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 1>We'd had some deep conversations. I knew you very well,

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and I knew you you were going to get better

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to end up with a new wife

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and have a new life. And you didn't believe me,

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.840
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<v Speaker 1>I love this club. So we fast forward a few months.

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<v Speaker 1>You pick up a job working for an electrician and

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>then you luck out and he actually has a shop. Yeah,

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you could live in. It's almost like sling Blade, the

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>movie where you live in the garudge repair. My life

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:11.399
<v Speaker 1>was a lot like sling Blade. I mean, uh so, yeah,

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>it was. He had a detached shop, which was actually

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:21.760
<v Speaker 1>probably very close to this the size of this office.

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>It had upstairs, but that was used for storage. Downstairs

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>there was his desk, some storage, and then a couch,

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and so I lived on the couch, So like one

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.720
<v Speaker 1>half half what this office was was what I lived

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>in with a dog named Hank and my guitar. So

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you that was your reset place. You got a new job,

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>you were absolutely miserable. Understandably. I would go and visit

0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you there. Which is an other ironic thing, is that

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.799
<v Speaker 1>then I we ended up when we had River, ended

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 1>up moving just down the road from Matt House. Yeah,

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:16.760
<v Speaker 1>like maybe two miles. Interesting, and you slowly began putting

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>your life back together. And it probably seemed when you

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>were in the middle of that rebuild that nothing was happening,

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:32.760
<v Speaker 1>nothing was improving. You were destined to fail in the world.

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>You were cursed in some way, you had bad luck,

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 1>as I've heard you say back then, and you were

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>almost just accepting that that's just Caleb Kelly was a

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 1>mess up. Yeah, And I remember one day telling you,

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I said, you are the biggest underachiever I've

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 1>ever met. Yeah, something like that, Because here's this guy,

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:11.439
<v Speaker 1>that's smart, witty, funny, very handy, very talented musically, and

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you just kept underachieving on every level in all of

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:19.879
<v Speaker 1>those categories. What can I say? And at some point

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't. I couldn't listen to you feel sorry

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>for yourself anymore, and I had to start taking a

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:31.760
<v Speaker 1>different approach of bro the is this going to get better?

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:33.919
<v Speaker 1>Ten years? I think I even said, ten years from now,

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have a new girl, You're going to

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:42.240
<v Speaker 1>be in a new life. And tell me about how

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>what happened with with Heidi? Where did she come from?

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So well, she came from heaven. Seriously, she's an angel.

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>And so what happened was I was on Instagram and

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>saw her and she was posting for a benefit for

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:20.839
<v Speaker 1>her sister that she lost to cancer. And I lost

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Levi to cancer, she lost her amber to cancer. So

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I just messaged her and said, is there anything I

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:34.399
<v Speaker 1>can do? Even at this she didn't know at this

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>time in my life. It was this crazy dude living

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 1>in a office. But I was just like, is there

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>anything I can do? She was like, yeah, you can,

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, repost this flyer for the benefit. And that's

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>what it did. And we started talking. We had a

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 1>lot in common, and we started talking on the phone,

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and then and then went and got her from Kansas

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and brought her back, and she has been Ah, it's

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:16.439
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to describe the total opposite of what I am.

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>She is the calm, cool, collected, compassionate, you know. She

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:28.399
<v Speaker 1>she's she has everything prepared for everybody and always has

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 1>like a little gift for everybody, And I am not that.

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't I don't know how that really happened, because,

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I was just like a you know,

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 1>living there on that what I called my island, and

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>then moved into I did move into a house when

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I brought her back from Kansas. But yeah, that was

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that was a win that I did not see coming.

0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't believe you. I thought it was

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.879
<v Speaker 1>just gonna be just gonna be kind of crazy. If

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>looking back on it, if I would have told myself,

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>if if the me now could walk up to the

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>me then and be like, you're gonna be okay, You're

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:16.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be okay, You're gonna make it through this. You

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have an option but to overcome. I want to

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 1>get to that what you're saying, and I want to

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:31.440
<v Speaker 1>go into detail about that, but because of your legal restrictions,

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:36.799
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't leave town pretty much, so traveling on the

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>road as a drummer, even though everything's pretty good in

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>your life, traveling on the road still ain't gonna happen.

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Then what what what ends up happening is my Amber

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:53.760
<v Speaker 1>ends up becoming really close with your Heidi. And Heidi

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 1>is a really good nanny slash babysitter. So we have

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 1>crazy little River at home and young Lincoln young London,

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and if Amber needs to do anything, Heidi comes over

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:15.279
<v Speaker 1>and starts babysitting. She's perfect babysitter. And then you guys

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>have prosper little boys the same age as River, So

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.800
<v Speaker 1>like worked out great because then Heidi could watch the

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 1>two young ones and then Lincoln in London, and then

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 1>if your two older ones came, it's like just a

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 1>big farm of kids. And you would usually come with

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>her when that happened. Yeah, so they're during this time,

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm touring like crazy. So at some point I was like, Hey, Caleb,

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm torn like crazy. Could you take care of a

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of things around the house when I'm gone, because

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I would come home and then I would have a

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:49.759
<v Speaker 1>turn and burn, like a twenty four hour turn and burn,

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and be out doing something else. And I like, things

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:55.280
<v Speaker 1>were starting to break in the house, and you're really handy,

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:57.960
<v Speaker 1>so you could fix this faucet and then you could

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>move this electrical outlet. And then I was like, hey,

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:02.839
<v Speaker 1>do you mind mowing the grass? And then you would

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:05.279
<v Speaker 1>do that. And then I was like, you do you

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 1>mind that dead tree out there needs cut down? And

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>you'd cut that, and so then I turned into like

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 1>a full time job. How do you would come babysit

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 1>when Amber needed help. You would help me with yard

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and housework when I'm on tour. And then we had

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:21.399
<v Speaker 1>this list system going. You would just check off things

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.720
<v Speaker 1>on the list, and before we know it, you're working

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>for me Like that can just like sneakily happened. You're

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>just all of a sudden, you're back and and it

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't We didn't even take that much time off. But

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's crazy that, you know, and I said this

0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>on the last podcast, You know, I trust you and

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Heidi more than most everyone else in my life. With

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:52.720
<v Speaker 1>my most valuable possessions, my wife and my kids and

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>and I think part of that trust that I had

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 1>not because we're just close friends, but because we'd had

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the diversity in our lives that we had. We had

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 1>some problems that we had to read we were forced

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to resolve, like we had to stare it in the

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.279
<v Speaker 1>face and fix it. We couldn't just leave and go

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else. We had to deal with it, and that

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 1>humans are. You gain so much trust with each other

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>when you make it through the fire and then come

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:24.840
<v Speaker 1>back out the other side. That ended up leading to

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you working from there to here at EE Apparel managing

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the warehouse, and I wanted to take time to go

0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to dive into what you're saying. If someone's listening, and

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:46.320
<v Speaker 1>this is where you get to make lemonade. If someone's

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 1>listening going through this, or their brothers going through their sister,

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 1>or their dad or or their son, or their daughter,

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 1>or their friend, or it's them and they're in that

0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>dark moment like you'd say, they're in that the Electricians shop,

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>sleeping on a couch with a dog with no hope.

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>You were there and you remember it, and you did

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 1>not think you're going to be here today. So what

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>could you say? What could you possibly say to that person,

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's say, well, first off, don't give up. You know,

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:30.920
<v Speaker 1>there's there's nothing there's nothing you can't get through or

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 1>you can't fix is kind of a weird word. I

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know about fix. But there's nothing you can't get through.

0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you can get through stuff. You don't exactly fix it,

0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 1>you get through it, you know what I mean. And

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 1>but don't give up. I couldn't have told you that

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>back then. That wouldn't have worked. No, So what do

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you say to that person? Because if I, if I

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 1>came over to a kale, remember, don't give up. You

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 1>probably punched me in the mouth. Well, and we've talked

0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:03.760
<v Speaker 1>about this. I think whether it be adversity or grief,

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:08.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe like I would have understood it maybe a little

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>more if at that time you you had had something

0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 1>similar happened, you know what I mean, Like who has

0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:24.840
<v Speaker 1>something similar like to that? But like we always we

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 1>always say, uh, you know, I always tell you one

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 1>drop of empathy is equal to five gallon buck a

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:35.839
<v Speaker 1>five gallon bucket of sympathy, So you've got the one

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 1>drop equal to five gallon bucket. So I would have

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:45.720
<v Speaker 1>listened more, you know. So I'm hoping that, hoping someone

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:49.640
<v Speaker 1>out there who is going through something has watched these

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 1>two episodes and been like, he has gone through some stuff,

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and maybe it'll maybe it'll hit home a little harder.

0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not that what it's not that what you

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:04.400
<v Speaker 1>said wasn't one hundred percent right and I probably should

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:08.759
<v Speaker 1>have just listened to you. It was that it was

0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that I wasn't listening to you as much as I

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.720
<v Speaker 1>should have. If someone who went through a whole bunch

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 1>of other stuff would have said the same exact thing,

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I probably would have listened more. And that's a funny

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:24.080
<v Speaker 1>thing about empathy, is that it it hits more. Now

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 1>we share a lot of the same air when it

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:32.080
<v Speaker 1>comes to grief and hardship. Now I think, I mean,

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>it feels not the same exact air, but you know it,

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just different. So I'm hoping that when I say

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 1>don't give up, maybe maybe they believe it because you know,

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 1>because of that stuff that have gone through And I'm

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm thankful for the stuff that I went through because

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it today right here today, I'm in a position where

0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I can tell people we don't give up. Yeah, And

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's maybe they don't give up. If that sounds

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 1>too big of a task for you, maybe it's don't

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>give up on today. Yeah, don't give up on what.

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Don't give up on today? What does that mean? Just

0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>make it through the day. That's all you got to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't give up on today. And when things were tough

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<v Speaker 1>for me, sometimes I would have to tell myself, just

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<v Speaker 1>don't give up on this minute, don't give up on

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<v Speaker 1>this hour. Like I don't know what did, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where this next breath is going to come from,

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<v Speaker 1>but just don't give up on the current one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then somehow, some way, the sun goes down and

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<v Speaker 1>then comes up again the next morning, and then goes

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<v Speaker 1>down again tomorrow, it comes up the day after tomorrow,

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and it just keeps. The rhythm of the earth keeps happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And by don't give up, you're not talking about you're

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<v Speaker 1>on a twenty mile run and you're really tired, you

0:58:57.400 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 1>want to fall out of the race, And it's not that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just stay here, yeah, just stay just breathe. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all it is. You know. I remember reading one time

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<v Speaker 1>the on the the Alcoholic Steps, what's the saying when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to alcoholics? Anonymous that's like, don't strive for perfection.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that saying, Uh, just strive. I'm gonna get it wrong.

0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:33.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember paraphrase. It's like, don't strive for don't

0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:39.600
<v Speaker 1>strive for perfection, just strive for something. And before I

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<v Speaker 1>really knew what that meant, I was like, that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a cop out. You should always try to be great,

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 1>always strive for greatness, try to be the best, try

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to strive for greatness. That's that's what every Self Helped

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<v Speaker 1>book says on the cover, and Barnes and Noble, being

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<v Speaker 1>your best, try for great But the reality is sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you just need to strive to just get the day done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that was the victory was making it to

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<v Speaker 1>the next day. So sometimes that can be hard. So

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<v Speaker 1>that don't give up is don't give up. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you it will get better. Do not or try not

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<v Speaker 1>to make things worse. I made my life at that

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<v Speaker 1>point would have been it would have been bad. Losing

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<v Speaker 1>the boys and then finding out about that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been bad. That would have been bad for I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think anybody can agree that would have been pretty

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<v Speaker 1>pretty crappy year. But I made it worse. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you may think life couldn't possibly get worse. It could

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<v Speaker 1>all get worse. No matter how low you've dug yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>you could go lower. You know, the every minute to

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<v Speaker 1>minute that my life was then thinking about my brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and then thinking about the betrayal would have been enough,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it was losing brothers, then the betrayal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go pay this court costs. I gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>do this class. I've got to, you know, ignition, interlock,

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<v Speaker 1>all these different things on top of what happened. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I can tell you one thing, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>my new mantra when it comes to talking to people,

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<v Speaker 1>it is that it's like, don't make it worse because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get better and you want your life

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<v Speaker 1>to get better, and trust me, it doesn't get better

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<v Speaker 1>if you make it worse with those incredibly stupid decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you love your current wife and your current little boy?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I I couldn't. I did not let

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<v Speaker 1>me rephrase that current wife. Do you love your wife? Yes? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I could not imagine my life without her, As weird

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<v Speaker 1>as it sounds. Sometimes I have to remind myself that's

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<v Speaker 1>a different individual, not like half of me feels like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have to go. She's she's her own personally,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we are not. And because that's what it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like. And then and you and you and anyone

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<v Speaker 1>listening that that has something like what you have now.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have your wife and your little boy without

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<v Speaker 1>the series of events that were so terrible that led

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<v Speaker 1>you to them. Yeah, that goes away. That that joy

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<v Speaker 1>goes away if you lose the suffering. Yeah, the butterfly effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is mind blowing and it's very biblical. Also, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you it's really hard to I couldn't tell myself back

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<v Speaker 1>then that, Hey, your your life. Okay, Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're having a really hard time right now with the boys,

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<v Speaker 1>and then with this happened, But you are going to

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<v Speaker 1>have this knockout of a dame and you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>this little kid who looks just like Jack Jack from

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<v Speaker 1>the Incredibles and is twice as crazy. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been like, what are you even talking about? No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. My life, my

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<v Speaker 1>life is paying, my life is suffering. This keeps happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't believed you. I love that Apostle Paul says

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<v Speaker 1>that suffering creates perseverance. Perseverance creates character, Character creates hope,

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<v Speaker 1>and so basically what he's saying Post Inspired by God

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<v Speaker 1>says that you don't you do not have hope without

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<v Speaker 1>suffering doesn't exist. Hope doesn't exist without first suffering. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to suffer as humans, we don't want to,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are required to to have true hope. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is as deep as this podcast you can get.

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<v Speaker 1>But you are the You're the living proof of that

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<v Speaker 1>that through a series of unimaginable suffering, it led you

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<v Speaker 1>to unimaginable hope that you have now in your future

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<v Speaker 1>and your life and your and who you are and

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<v Speaker 1>your purpose. Ultimately Caleb Kelly's purpose on this earth, it

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<v Speaker 1>all came from suffering. Yeah, Yeah, it was just some

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<v Speaker 1>things have to, Like you're saying, some things have to.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one of the rare pigments in paint is this

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<v Speaker 1>bluestone they find in the mountains of Afghanistan, and the

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<v Speaker 1>rarest pigment on Earth is made from this bluestone that

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<v Speaker 1>they have to crush into a fine enough powder to

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<v Speaker 1>turn into paint. So you have to take this bluestone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely beautiful on its own, but in order you

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<v Speaker 1>can't paint with rock. You can paint rocks, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't paint with this rock. But they have to crush

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<v Speaker 1>it to this fine powder and then it is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the rarest pigments in paint in the world. But

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<v Speaker 1>it had to be crushed all the way down to

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<v Speaker 1>the finest to lose us to gain that. You hear

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<v Speaker 1>that story repeated so many times. So if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this podcast, if you if you're suffering, and you

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<v Speaker 1>probably are because you're human, hang on, make it through

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<v Speaker 1>this minute, this hour, this week. Just hang on. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to set records on the race. You just

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<v Speaker 1>have to finish. That's it, dude, Thanks for being on again.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll do more. There's so many more road stories.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to get that deep. There's just like

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<v Speaker 1>one ear Doug stories galore that would be fun to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we got to get back to work.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a a fall launch coming up here, just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks. I'm working again. You gotta go work.

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<v Speaker 1>See you guys,