1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: M the Around the League Podcast knows how to spell. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of The Round League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hands and I am joined by 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: What up, boys, How are you buddy? I am okay? 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: We have Chris Westling is not in today. He has 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: a family issue, and Greg, I think we'll throw it 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: to you to explain exactly what the situation is. Yeah, 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: it's such a great day here for us, you know, 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: two great games we were looking forward to. But we're 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: hurting a little because Chris is hurting. His father passed 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: away over the weekend, and you know, we miss him 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: being here, and we're glad that he's back with his family, 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: and we kind of consider ourselves a family, this podcast 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: and you know, our blog and our website, so you know, 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: we're thinking about him, and and we know Chris that 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: your your dad's proud of you, and it's good that 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: you're there. I know you watch the games today with 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: your family and and we'll talk to you soon on Tuesday. Yes, 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: we yeah, we send our condolences to west and his 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: family and I know West, Yeah, watched football today because 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: that's what Westling does, and I'm sure he'll be listening 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: to this podcast and he wants us to talk about football, 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: so we will. Let's do a good one, some good games. 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: We'll get into it. We had two games and there 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: were Super Bowls on the line. I don't know if 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: you guys knew this, UM, so we why don't we start? 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: And no offense, Greg, but we will start with the memorable, 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: truly memorable game of the day, and it was the 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: late game. We'll start in Seattle, where Russell Wilson threw 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: a thirty five yard touchdown pass on fourth down and 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Seattle's top ranked defense force three late turnovers, lifting the 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks to their second Super Bowl with a seventeen win 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: over the San Francisco forty Niners in Sunday's NFC Championship game. Uh, 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: like I said, a hugely memorable game that uh featured 36 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean lead changes and bad blood and a terrible 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: injury that got showed way too many times by Fox 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: and a great ending and Colin Kaepernick falling short in 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the big stage. And there was so much to dissect. 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Greg, what a game. It was 41 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: one of the most incredible second half of a championship 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: game you'll ever see. You know, I think you summed 43 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: it up well. That just big plays. I mean the 44 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch beast mode play and then Kaepernick with two 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: dimes including a jump past twenty five yard touchdown. But 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: in the end, the Seahawks defense. We've been talking about 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: it since the preseason and when push comes to shove 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: in the final quarter in a little extra forty Niners 49 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: final four drives in this game, three and out, sack, fumble, interception, interception. 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: You don't close a game any stronger, any better than that, 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: and that was the best defense in the league, stepping 52 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: up in the biggest possible moment. I think, just a 53 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: crushing loss for you know, watching this game number one, 54 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: it was hard to imagine we followed these teams so 55 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: closely since the summer that one of these teams had 56 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: to go home because it was that. It was that 57 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: kind of deal where I feel so I feel like 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: we saw the two best teams in the NFC, no 59 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: question about it, and everything that you could have expected. 60 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: It was. But there was an issue down the stretch 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: with Kaepernick. I mean, I think he made a couple 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: of really questions that first interception was Andy Dalton nasco most. 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what he saw in that play. He 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: said after the game that he saw Cam Chancellor underneath. 65 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: He thought he could put it over his head and 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: he didn't. Later in that drive before his final interception, 67 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: I believe the same play happened and he was able 68 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: to get it over the defender's head. He just simply 69 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: underthrew an Kwan Bolden. I don't think he's played that 70 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: well throwing the ball during the playoffs, at least the 71 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: last couple of games. We talked about that he had 72 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: to miss his last week and and you can get 73 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: away with that sometimes, but not against Seattle. But you know, 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: we are We're a couple of players away from talking 75 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: about San Francisco slaying three teams on the road to 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl. I mean it was tight. 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: It was not a situation where San Francisco, you know, 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: collapsed here. I thought they played. This team is a 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: lot of character. Well, yes, they certainly have character, and 80 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: and if losing builds character, these last three playoff losses 81 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: they've had are three of the most wretched ones you 82 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: can imagine. Uh, the Giants NFC title game with Kyle Williams. 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Of course, the Super Bowl coming down to the last 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: play the way it did. And now this going back 85 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: to Kaepernick for a second, I think what a lot 86 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: of people forget and we One of the posts we 87 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: have up on a t L I wrote about Kaepernick's 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: night was this was his first full year as a starter. 89 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: This is there's still a lot of room to grow, 90 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: and there's still a lot of flaws in his games. 91 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: And when Joe Montana this past week made news by 92 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: saying that Kaepernick has for improvement, the only thing that 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: was noteworthy about that being said was who said it. It 94 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: It was Joe Montana, So it was interesting. Everybody that's 95 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: watched Kaepernick all year knows that he's been making mistakes 96 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: and he's gone through funks. And when you have flaws 97 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: and you're a young quarterback without a lot of experience, 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: and you're on this stage against the team like this, 99 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: this is it's bound to come out. And that's what happened. 100 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: Isn't it fair to say that we saw some of 101 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: that from Russell Wilson as well. He didn't play a 102 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: flawless game tonight. That's fair and I think it was 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: a microcosm of both their seasons. Really. I mean Kaepernick, 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: what a wild game that he had a hundred and 105 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: thirty yards rushing. He had over a hundred yards rushing 106 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: at halftime, but they only had seventeen yards passing in 107 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: the first half and they were ahead ten to three. 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: And then he makes some crazy great plays in the 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: second half throwing he almost drives him at the end 110 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: of the game. I mean that drive get him into 111 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: the red zone. Was the beauty line before that last 112 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: pass with thirty seconds to play, and then you're just 113 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: a couple inches away. I mean, Crabtree was open, he 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: beat Sherman. Sherman's hips were the wrong way, and he 115 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: made a fantastic mid air recovery. And that was a 116 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: play that I don't think many quarterbacks can make to 117 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: recover after he had already been beat and deflected with 118 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: his left hand to tip it to Malcolm Smith. If 119 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: that's another cornerback, maybe they're not recovering. Maybe crab Ja 120 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: catches the ball. And we're talking about the clutch, Collin, 121 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what I mean we got 122 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: we do the sound clip here. Yeah, when you trying 123 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: me what receiver like crab Tree that's the results. You 124 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: won't get, don't you that we're talking about me? Who 125 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: was talking about you? Crack real quick. Here's here's the 126 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: thing about this. We will be and we are all 127 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be going to New York for the 128 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. This will be the primary narrative at least 129 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: for the first week and a half leading up to 130 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the game. It's gonna be about Sherman and and I 131 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: don't I don't want this game to get like swallowed 132 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: up by that. But that's what's gonna end up happening 133 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: at least tomorrow, and there will be two weeks to 134 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: lead up to this game. But Sherman's comments and what 135 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: he said going out the crab Tree, which was, let's 136 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: face it odd that even in that pumped up state 137 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: for him to the first thing he says is I'm 138 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: the best cornerback in the league. Uh. It was funny 139 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: to me and also strange and kind of came off 140 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: like a butt head. I don't want to I don't 141 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: want to say, like, you know, there are a lot 142 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: of people there. First thing is to say that he's 143 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: the worst person in the world, and he's certainly not. 144 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: But that was a little strange. I thought, you know, 145 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: you're you're halfway up Mount Pious. You have a clown 146 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: climbed to the top of it. This is and this 147 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: is yes, and this is the point I was making 148 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: that sense. You don't need to go to the top 149 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: of Mountpious, but then you don't need to go to 150 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: the rival mountain and then cast down upon people that 151 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: think it's a little out of line for this guy, 152 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: the way he acts sometimes bringing attention to himself, there's 153 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: a way to kind of do it. Fla wants to 154 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: the pipe up here. I can tell you know what. 155 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: He is the Kobe Bryant of the NFL, and I 156 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: believe that. So you know, some people love it and 157 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: some people hate it, but I love it. I love 158 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: his arrogance because he follows up with it. He follows up, 159 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: and not a lot of people will follow up with 160 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: their talent. And you know what, we had a discussion 161 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: last week about Colin Kaepernick and his little imitation of 162 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Cam Newton or what he said was his fraternity and 163 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: he was beating around the bush. Oh no, it wasn't 164 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: Cam Newton. It wasn't attack at him. But guess what 165 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman is a total opposite of that. And I 166 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: love it. I absolutely love it. He's honest. You you 167 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: give him that. He says what's on his mind. But 168 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like you don't need 169 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: to be totally against Richard Sherman, but you also don't 170 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: have to then, uh, you know, throw trash. Throwing trash 171 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: is another thing. What's up with the twelfth Man in 172 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: Seattle throwing popcorn on Navarro Bowman as he's getting carded 173 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: off as a fan base? How many what was that 174 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: the act? One or two people there? And and I 175 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: don't know if anyone else saw except for us. We 176 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: were watching Dan and I were watching the feed from 177 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: the networks. I don't think it was on the air. 178 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Some popcorn being thrown on Navarro Bowman, who Jim Harber 179 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: said after the game, preliminary indications that he has a 180 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: tour in a c L. Which was a really tough 181 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: moment in that game and definitely not a good look 182 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks fans. Yes, but let's get let's get 183 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: back to the play. So Sherman and it was an 184 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: amazing play and everyone will talk about his interview after 185 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: the game, and he didn't back down after the game. 186 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: But yes, an amazing play that clinched the game, and 187 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: it was so fitting. I like the fact that he 188 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: talked I mean, I just like that he's true to himself, 189 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: that he talked himself into being the best cornerback in 190 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: the league a year ago. Who was this guy Richard 191 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: Sherman Before two thousand twelve, no one really knew him. 192 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: And then he kind of backed it up and all 193 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: of a sudden was right there among the best. And 194 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: then this offseason kind of took it to another level. 195 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: And then he leads the league in interceptions and the 196 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks defenses is still racle and he makes the game 197 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: winning play to go to the Super Bowl. So I'm 198 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: a football fan. I like guys. I like when stuff 199 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: like that happens because it's good for the sport. It's 200 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: like Dion Sanders, you know what I mean. It's a 201 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: modern day and it's all it's all been building to 202 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman getting to the Super Bowl stage. And Eisen 203 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: made a good point on Media Day a week from tuesday, 204 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: he now has, if he didn't already, will have the 205 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: high rafter on the fields where all the media will 206 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: be around him. He'll be a major figure, and this 207 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: is what he's wanting. We had Sinko two years ago, 208 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: we had Randy Moss last year, and why not just 209 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: another you know, we got Richard Sherman this year, where 210 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: there was there was going to be somewhat of an 211 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: absence of this type of trumped up figure. If if 212 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: if he had if they hadn't gone, and there wasn't 213 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: a lot of Sherman plays in this game to get 214 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: excited about. He was not a huge factor. They did 215 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: not throw at him much. I thought Bobby Wagner made 216 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: a lot of big plays in this game. Camp Chancellor, 217 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: uh made some big hits. Michael Bennett and Cliffe both 218 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: combined again for some big plays. It's a team defense. 219 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: It's really not all about Sherman. Why are you throwing? 220 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: Listen up? Plague was was similar to the Super Bowl 221 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: ending play from a year ago to some degree. Why 222 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: are you throwing a fade route when you're up against 223 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: Uh a taller cornerback. I just thought it was a 224 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: strange play to dial up to one of the secondaries 225 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: in years if he and Kaepernick said up to the game, 226 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: he under threw it a little bit. He wished he 227 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: put it in the corner. He just didn't you have 228 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: to make against the quarterback cornerback that good with with 229 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: length like that, you've got to make almost a perfect throw. 230 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: He's at the eighteen yard line at that on that 231 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: play with thirty seconds to go, Crafty get some separation. 232 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't think the decision was bad. I don't think 233 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: it was a great throw. We did see him make 234 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: in an absolutely incredible throat to Bolden, and and Wilson 235 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: had an I mean, they you do see that. The 236 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: other the flip side with the ability of these two 237 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks was they occasionally make a play that just blows 238 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: your mind. But they're both growing. There's no question I 239 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: want to see what Wilson is able to do against Denver, 240 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: because he was far from perfect tonight. Yeah, but like 241 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: you said, on that play where he's scrambling around back there, 242 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: you know, conjuring up memories of Randall Conyngham and then 243 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: throwing it deep. You know, they had a pretty good 244 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: second half. They could have put the game away a 245 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: little quicker if they took advantage of that possession where 246 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: they got the ball in the red zone and they 247 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: ended up fumbling it on fourth and goal after the 248 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: bowman injury. So many things happened in this game, it's 249 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: almost hard to remember it. They could have put this 250 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: game away earlier, but ultimately they scored the final thirteen 251 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: points of the game. They went into halftime down ten three, 252 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: and you know, the forty Niners defense supposedly right there 253 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: with the best groups in the league. They put up 254 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: twenty points on him in the second half. They got 255 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: the job done. I thought one other thing that seemed, 256 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, last week against Carolina, San Francisco shifted second 257 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: half into a power approach. They just shoved the ball 258 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: down the Panthers throat Frank Or fourteen yards on eleven carries. 259 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: He didn't look completely was he did. He look banged 260 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: up to you. At some point he left the field 261 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: for chunks of time. And they weren't able. You know, 262 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: when you're when you have Kaepernick running for a hundred 263 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: and thirty yards, that's great if you're against the Packers 264 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: and you're scoring points in different ways too, But they 265 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: didn't really get that ground game going. They weren't able 266 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: to control that that part of the game at all. 267 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: I thought they weren't consistent as an offense They got 268 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: some drives going in the second half with Kaepernick's throws, 269 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: most of his hundred and fifty three yards were all 270 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: in the second half. But they weren't a good offense. 271 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: They had no consistency in terms of their past game 272 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: or their running game, and a lot of those rushing 273 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: yards from Kaepernick were on scrambles. It wasn't like they 274 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: were called runs. They called plenty of runs too, but 275 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: the big players were on scrambles. This was the first 276 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: loss since November seventeen. And you know how many times 277 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: do you see do you see the year after year 278 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: the team that get hot at the right time takes 279 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: off and wins the Super Bowl? And this year is 280 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: a little different. Now, this year is shaping up different 281 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Uh. For for starters, the top, 282 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: the two number one seeds are playing in the Super 283 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: Bowl for the first time in five or six years, 284 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: only the second time since ninety three. So we had 285 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: it recently with the Saints, uh and the Colts, But 286 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: this doesn't happen to us, right, and the Seahawks knocking 287 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: off this Niners team, I know, I got a feeling 288 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: by the time kickoff happens on Super Bowl Sunday, a 289 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna be picking the Broncos. That's 290 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: just my vibe right now, Assessler, if you will. But 291 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: I think ultimately I'm so impressed by what the Seahawks 292 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: were able to do against the Niners team that is 293 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: so such a good team, and Kaepernick is such a 294 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: good quarterback. Yes, he's a little ross still and he's 295 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: still got some progress to make, but to turn him 296 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: into Geno Smith type figure in the fourth quarter of 297 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: the NFC title game tells you just in terms of 298 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: and overs, let's be fair, that tells you so much 299 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: about how good this defense is, and when we get 300 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: into the second game of the day, how fascinating it 301 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: will be to see the defense this good, especially the 302 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: secondary against the best quarterback ever. Arguably. I want to 303 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: apologize to the Seahawks fans and forty Niners fans and 304 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: anyone else about saying that we needed to move the 305 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: Patriots Broncos game into prime time because this NFC was 306 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: the underdog. I take it all back. That was a snoozer. 307 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: This was fantastic. I'm so excited. We're gonna watch these 308 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: teams and these coaches and these quarterbacks for a while 309 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: and it it lived up to all the building and more. 310 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: Final stats in this game three eight yards for the 311 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: forty Niners, eight yards for the Seahawks, penalty yards sixty 312 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: for the forty Niners, sixty six for the Seahawks. I 313 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: mean this was about as even as it gets, time 314 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: of possession split right down the middle. I mean they 315 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: did a great job. And Greg as a Patriots fan 316 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: and also you are, let's not even bring that as 317 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,359 Speaker 1: a Patriots fan before the page threots became the Patriots, 318 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: and myself as a Jets fan going back to their 319 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: early nineties. Uh, seeing Pete Carroll going to the Super Bowl, 320 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: this is not something you could have predicted about fifteen 321 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: years ago, is it? No? Uh? No one. I always 322 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: thought Pete Carroll got a bad rap for his tenure 323 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: in New England. It's like replacing. You don't want to 324 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: be the guy that replaced Parcels. Uh. Look, he wasn't. 325 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: He was a five hundred coach with an awful general manager. 326 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: He wasn't the one picking the players. You never would 327 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: have thought that guy would have turned into a college 328 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: football legend. And now he's leading you know, just one 329 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: of the best constructed teams in the NFL, But I've 330 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: gotten used to it by now. I think he's a 331 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: great lesson where because he talked about when they got hired, 332 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: we got hired at USC. At his first press conference, 333 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: he said, I understand this is not popular, and there 334 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: were a lot of USC fans and we're not college guys, 335 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: but they were railing against the concept of what at 336 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: that point was a milk toast uh Pete Carroll being 337 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: hired to run USC. Right, it was It's like, and 338 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, he had got basically ran out of the 339 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: NFL for being too boring and too nice, but then 340 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: he comes back and he's recreated himself. He grew. I mean, 341 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: he's a He's That team is reflection. They're a reflection 342 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: of what he is. And I think in a way 343 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: what you see from Sherman, I don't think Carol has 344 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: a big problem with that because I think that confidence, 345 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: bordering on boastfulness is part of what that team is 346 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: all about. All right, Sherman, I mean, Carol's going to 347 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: go into the Seahawks Ring of Honor and like seven 348 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: years and the Jets. He's most famous for being the 349 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: coach of the fake Spike game. So it's being a 350 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: Jet fans into the ring of honor someday who will 351 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: probably be thought of so highly by Seahawks fans, even 352 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: if he's not a popular figure nationally maybe a little bit. 353 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: But me for picking Seahawks vers not Dog Baldwin. What 354 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: a big game he had today. He has made so 355 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: many tough contested catches throughout the playoffs, throughout the season. 356 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: He also had that kickoff return today. He goes over 357 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: a hundred yards. I swear, whenever the Seahawks need a 358 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: big play, it always seems like it's little Dougie Baldwin. 359 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: Maybe he grew agitated with this uh storyline bubbling up 360 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: all week that they have no wide receivers, which I 361 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: believe was mentioned on this podcast. That's fair. This is 362 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: the first big day for a Doug in sometime well 363 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: even just across all spectrums. Got to go back to 364 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Doug Williams. It's been that long no Doug has sort 365 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: of resurfaced as a famous dan. You are on the money. 366 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, even the Seahawks didn't believe in Doug Baldwin. 367 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: Why else do you bring in Percy Harvin also a 368 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: slot receiver. You're trying to replace him play pay Sydney 369 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: Rice forty million dollars. He's like, I think he's a 370 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: great story. Any final thoughts on this game, gentleman. And 371 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: by the way, one thing about Crabtree, Crabt is a 372 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: good receiver. The the other thing that bothered me about 373 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: Sherman they he kind of he kind of went after 374 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: crab Tree for not being any good. Crab's a really 375 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: good player and he just got beat by Sherman. What 376 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: I hear from your Dan real quick is I think 377 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: it's fine to be annoyed by Sherman. Uh. There may 378 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: be something about him that just sort of like, come on, dude, why. 379 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: But I also think that a lot of people feel 380 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: the way Crystal feels, is that a this guy backs 381 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: up what he says and be it's not that big 382 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: of a deal, but we are going to be focusing 383 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: on it primarily for two straight weeks. Everything that comes 384 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: out of this guy's mouth is going to be put 385 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: through your hands on a typewriter onto NFL dot com writer. Well, 386 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: what year is this one? I don't know what it is. 387 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm back in Doug Williams, Famous Doug Williams. Crystal doesn't 388 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: even know what a typewriter is, Crystal. It's a device 389 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: that used to Uh, I like it. Yeah, it's an 390 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: old device. Don't worry about its car doesn't know who 391 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: you too is. She definitely doesn't know what a type 392 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: typed on the typewriter when I was a little girl. Okay, 393 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: you asked for final I just thought of one because 394 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: I've never done. How about Pete Carroll and the Seahawks 395 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: coaches going for it there on fourth and seven. You 396 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: mentioned how Hashka gets a Star of the game. Uh, 397 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: maybe the best thing he did. Did he tell them 398 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: he couldn't hit the field goal from that long? I don't. 399 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: I don't even know. They changed their mind after they 400 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: took a time out, after they couldn't get house got 401 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: in the field, and then they go for it on 402 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: fourth and Steven Wilson sees that they're off sides, goes 403 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: for the big plays. They send three verticals. That was 404 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: kind of the stones moment of the way, you know, 405 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: and and two of us in the room follows terrible 406 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: football teams, right, and we watch a lot of bad football. 407 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: And the difference between the four teams that started alive 408 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: and the even the two that you know, exist tonight 409 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: or that gutsy go for the throat type strategy, out 410 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: of the box stuff. You watch bad football teams, they're conservative, 411 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: they do stuff. It's it's vanilla and I love Carol 412 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: and what they did on that play, that was a 413 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: great decision. Fortune favors the bold and that was the 414 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: goal ahead time Angel correct, Actually was Kurt vonnegu That 415 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: was a I think that's probably the biggest play in 416 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: the game. I know there's a million big plays in 417 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: this game, but that has to be the biggest. Chance 418 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: favors the prepared mind. Under siege two, dark Territory, second, 419 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: bad guy. All right, let's move on to the a 420 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: f C Championship game. Right, It's time to move on. 421 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: It feels like days ago at this Johnny Yes, Peyton 422 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Manning threw for four hundred yards and two touchdowns and 423 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: the Denver Browncos are heading back to the Super Bowl 424 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: after a win over the New England Patriots on Sunday 425 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: in the a f C Championship Game. Uh, this is 426 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: a game where the Broncos looked like the better team 427 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: the whole game. I know, the Patriots got back into 428 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: a little later, made it a game of it and 429 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: if they got that two point conversion, who knows what happens, 430 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: but they didn't. And Greg, you have I mean, listen, 431 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: how upset can you be about this season? You got 432 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: it to the n C title game, you got beat 433 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: by an awesome Broncos team. You weren't that disappointed down 434 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: the newsroom and you're okay, right, well, I'm at work. 435 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: It's different, you guys have to admit it's different watching 436 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: the game at work. It's easier to take a loss 437 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: when you just get beat, when when a team is 438 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: so clearly better than the other team. And I think 439 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: if they played this game more whining, I'm saying very philosophical. 440 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: Easy there, he's moving around. It actually looks kind of 441 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: angry Broncos. It was the most one sided Patriots game 442 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: of the year, and it's not even close. No other 443 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: team pushed them around like the Broncos did. They went 444 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: over five hundred yards, They moved the ball the entire game. 445 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: The Patriots had some chances on offense, they didn't play well, 446 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: and the Broncos defense was terrific, especially against the run. 447 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't a close game. A lot of their playoff 448 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: lasses have not been close to Baltimore twice to the Jets. 449 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: I thought was a convincing loss. These are games where 450 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: they've just been clearly outplayed. You know, It's like the 451 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore game last year. They were a little lifeless. It 452 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: just seemed they got sunk in a hole and they 453 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: couldn't get out of it in this game, both games, 454 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: both these games that lost to keep to leave. That 455 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: was a big factor. I think that we talked about 456 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: a Patriots defense that you know, in damnishex Jenga took 457 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: him out of the game, which I thought was interesting. 458 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you did. I mean, but you know, I thinking 459 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: question if that was is flagrant to some say, I 460 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: didn't think so. But losing to leave that that sunk 461 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: this Patriots defense because you have to be able to 462 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: defend four or five targets that are legitimate receivers at 463 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: the same time, and they just didn't. They couldn't do it. 464 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: And Manning kept chunk past place twelve fourteen, ten yards, 465 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: converting major third downs and chewing up the clock. They 466 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: did what the Patriots are good at sometimes, which is 467 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: keeping the opponent off the field. Bray it felt like 468 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: eons in between drives for the Patriots, but isn't Losing 469 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: to Leave was no doubt. It was a big loss 470 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: for their secondary, but really it wasn't that. What their 471 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: season was all about. The Patriots was losing guys and 472 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: filling the holes and moving on. I'm not gonna put 473 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: the whole game on to Leave, the whole game because 474 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: I think the Broncos were going into this game the 475 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: much better team. I think people talked themselves into the 476 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: Patriots because they're the Patriots, but this is what happened 477 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: on Sunday makes sense. The Broncos have the better quarterback, 478 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: they have the home field advantage, they have the better 479 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: overall team, and they won. This wasn't a big surprise. 480 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying. The defense of the 481 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: Patriots had such an uphill battle going into the game, 482 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: not just because of the injuries that they've had this year, 483 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: although that's a factor. They don't really do anything well. 484 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: The best thing they do is bend but don't break, 485 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: and they actually did that for the most part. They 486 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: stopped the Broncos in the red zone a few times today. 487 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: Once to Leave was out, they can't get off the field, 488 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: and there down even before four to leave was out. 489 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: I thought The tone was set early when after the 490 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: first Broncos punt, every other drive they're hitting third and ten, 491 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: third and nine, third and ten. There was that early 492 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: fluttering Manning pass that looked like it could have maybe 493 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: e Ben picked off, but Arrington overran the ball and 494 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: it just fell imperfectly to Welker's hand at that point 495 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: at zero zero, And they keep going down the field 496 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: after that, and there was just no confidence that they 497 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: were gonna get anywhere near Peyton Manning and that they 498 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: were gonna get stopped. They got one stop. I mean, 499 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: they stopped the Broncos one time in the game. That's 500 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: about as big a beat. Denver Head drives sixth straight 501 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: scoring drives. Story reason it wasn't seven was because they 502 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: burnt out the clock at the end of the game 503 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: seventy three yards nine three sixty eight sixty yards. They 504 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: had two drives over seven minutes. They just they did 505 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: everything they needed to do by just chewing up the clock. 506 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: And then at one point they add twenty one first 507 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: downs in the third quarter when New England had twenty 508 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: four total plays. That's ridiculous. And they're the best offense 509 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: in NFL history just looking at points and Peyton Manning 510 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: had the best season in NFL history just looking at touchdowns, 511 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: and they played like the best offense you ever want 512 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: to see in a really good matchup for them on Sunday. 513 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: They played right to how they played all season. They 514 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: were the best team in the a f C all 515 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: season long, and then they came through with a great performance. 516 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: And let's give credit to Peyton Manning because every this 517 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: was hanging over his head all season, Like I don't 518 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: know a lot of there was a vocal minority some 519 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: people located in this building that basically anything he did 520 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: in the regular season was, oh, well, he's no good 521 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: in the postseason, you know, And every everybody kind of 522 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: pointed to this game is this is when Peyton's gonna 523 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: come out and fall short again. The guy was as 524 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: good as he's been all season. He was one Julius 525 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: Thomas drop away from three touchdowns in an even more 526 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: impressive offensive day. His passing he was surgical. It was 527 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: like a seven on seven drill all game against a 528 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: very good Patriots team. Not a great team, but a 529 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: very good team. He stepped up in a big spot. 530 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: He's now too two in the Manning in the Manning 531 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Brady bowls in the playoffs anyway, and he's I guess 532 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: his playoff record is now eleven and eleven and now 533 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: you get now, you get to the super Bowl. We 534 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: have plenty of time to talk about this. But Peyton 535 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: Manning wins that one more game now, and you've got 536 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: to throw all that garbage out the window. Out the window, though, 537 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: but two quick garbage, but it will go out the window. 538 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: But two quick points. One. I think that the Broncos 539 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: uh learned so much from that loss last year that 540 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: that Ravens lost and Fox said that made us a tougher, 541 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: more resolute team. And you know when all that jive 542 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: came up about oh Peyton Manning camp play in the cold, 543 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: they game plan to show that he could. And today 544 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: when it was what's gonna happen to Peyton Manning all 545 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: this stuff you're talking about, Dan, they came out and 546 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: threw the ball on first down to start the game 547 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: seven times in a row. I think they went out 548 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: of their way to get that passing game and get 549 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: Manning in the flow, and he was as sharp as 550 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: he's looked all year. But number two, we can't get 551 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: out of here with talking about what Denver's defense, which 552 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: it didn't do last year but it did do today. 553 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: Was it shutdown New England entirely La Garrett Blunt six 554 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: yards on the day we all as a society all 555 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden talk to la Garrett Blunt into superstar status. 556 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I think it's because people read your article about him 557 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: before the last game. I said that he could be 558 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: a difference baker. I didn't know he would he would 559 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: go like Madden on easy level against the Colts last week. 560 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: But I think everyone almost assumed Blunt was going to 561 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: be a factor this week and he totally wasn't. And 562 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: then let's talk about Tom Brady. Tom Brady missed some 563 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: big throws in this game. And you know a lot 564 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: of people get on Manning when he misses throws in 565 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they point to it is Brady gonna 566 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: get the same level level of criticism because the reason 567 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: they weren't in that game until very late was because 568 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: he missed some throws on the first half that would 569 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: have changed this game potentially. You know, Mark makes a 570 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: great point that the Broncos came out aggressively throwing. The 571 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: Patriots came out aggressively throwing too. You know, the Patriots 572 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: begged the Broncos to run last time, and the Broncos obliged. 573 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: This time, they wanted to throw, and I think the 574 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: Patriots came in here saying, your secondary's weak without Harris, 575 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna put it in Tom Brady's hands and give 576 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: him a chance to win the game for us. They 577 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: came out throwing and it didn't work. I mean, the 578 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: first third down to the game, they throw it to 579 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: Austin Collie. That doesn't work. Second third down of the game, 580 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: it's third and short, they throw a bomb to Matthew Slater. 581 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: He has one career. Matthew Mulligan was a factor. Danny 582 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: Ammendola's jet legend, Dan's ex factor didn't have a catch. 583 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: You couldn't get the ball to him. There wasn't a 584 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: lot of separation and winning on the outside, and when 585 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: there was, Brady miss throws. It wasn't a great game 586 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: for him. He played better in the second half, but 587 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was a typical two thousand thirteen performance 588 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: by Manning was better than him and we could close. 589 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: We could. You brought up Amendola and I did pick 590 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: him as max factor this week. Targeted once he dropped 591 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: the pass had no catches, and we can now officially 592 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: close the book on a huge personnel blunder by the 593 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: Belichick era Patriots. I know Welker didn't have a huge 594 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: game for the Broncos, but Patriots had a better chance 595 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,239 Speaker 1: to win if they just would have been smart and 596 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: kept welcre in their building. And now you're throwing with 597 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: to these Hammondaggers. As Bobby the brain Heenan would say, 598 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: when you could have had Welker and amundl was not 599 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: the guy this year and today when they needed him 600 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: to step up, he disappeared. How about our boy, Although 601 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: you can't forget that Edelman did turn into a Pro 602 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Bowl quality type of receiver. Yeah, could have had him both. 603 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: It's a bad sign when Austin call that says so 604 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: much Austin Collie four catches fifty seven yards today and 605 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: Amendola didn't have any, and they're picking Collie up off 606 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: the street. Mark is disappointed. I would have liked to 607 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: see them find a way to get the ball to 608 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 1: Verreene more on some which I saw initially that its 609 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: success throwing the ball to the outside of Arene chewing 610 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: up some yards here and there. But then it's just 611 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: everything sort of shriveled up. And I think Dan's right 612 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: about the Brady with the deep passes that took ten 613 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: points off the board. Those misses, I mean, potentially one 614 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: was had had the had the Edelman passed being caught, 615 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: that's a touchdown, could have been a touchdown missed Collie 616 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: open towards the end of the first half. But I 617 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: don't know if even if they played, they had to 618 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: play in a game to win this, and they weren't 619 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: close because the Broncos were so good in situations like 620 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: the end of the first half. How they had the 621 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: ball and it was second and twenty after a penalty, 622 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, oh, the Patriots are going to get 623 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: the ball back with a chance to score at the 624 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: end of the half. But instead Manning, you know, in 625 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: the shadow of his own goal line complete the twenty 626 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: five yard passed. They end up going down and scoring 627 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: the field goal. Then they get a touchdown right after 628 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: intermission on a seven and a half played drive. That's 629 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots move. That's the Patriots move. Situational football. Ten 630 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: points and suddenly the game's almost over. They did that 631 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: all day where you the Patriots found themselves in some 632 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: type of desirable down in distance scenario, and then to 633 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: Marry Thomas fifteen yards, Eric Decker thirteen yards, Uh, Julius 634 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: Thomas eleven yards, and all of a sudden, you know, 635 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: all the more any momentumals us. And let's talk about 636 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots pass rush, which literally didn't exist. Oh, it 637 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: didn't exist at all. I mean they couldn't. They got 638 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a what do we like to 639 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: call it? A ghost you mean a dirty Peter? A 640 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: ghosted And if people haven't been listening to every podcast, 641 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: we they are if we asked, we asked you early 642 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: in the season, when a team has no quarterback hits, 643 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: we're a sack. It's called a Gholston. Although Dan wanted 644 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: it to be called a dirty Peter. The People's Champions. However, 645 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: Greg I thought we came to a compromise that they 646 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: could both be used. It's like being a dinger or 647 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: around tripper. Yeah, you could tweet at different sports. You 648 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: could tweet at us and let us know which like 649 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: would you like better? But yeah, we could say them both. 650 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: It was it was a Gholston. What about a dirty Gholston? 651 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: That's pretty good, not bad. That's called compromise. See we 652 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: met in the middle as a team, crystal smiling. Everything's good. 653 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: See if I want to flip it around here from minute, 654 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: because Denver, how are we getting out here without talking 655 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: about pot roast? I thought you were going to give 656 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: some their offensive way? Did we ever explain to the 657 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: people that don't know what dirty Peter Gholston dirty ghost 658 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: is and I want you don't want if you don't 659 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: want to get the pot roast thing in here, I 660 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: can tell times he went, he's brought it up. I 661 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: just was impressed with him today and it was one 662 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: of the things that we talked about that just has 663 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: pot roast written like four times in a row. All Right, 664 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna rudely interrupt you and just completely change the 665 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: subject so that your head starts spinning up. I will, 666 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: I will, I will take someone down and let's give 667 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: him the floor. Let's give him the floor because there's 668 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: a there's an agenda here. Let's be honest. Mark Sessler's 669 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: X factor for this game, Terrence pot Roast night, and 670 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: you can honestly was not even going to bring that 671 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: up what we had written about them coming into the week. 672 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: Was that, Oh, this run defense of the of the 673 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: Broncos has gotten better for four weeks in a row. 674 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: But it's like, oh, here comes the Patriots. Maybe that's 675 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: not real, but they just shut him down and pot roast. 676 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: You know, by the way, a sack on the fourth down, 677 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: a major fourth down, couple quarterback hits, tackles for losses. 678 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: I mean, he's This is a guy that the Jaguars 679 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: let walk who a lot of people didn't think that 680 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: much of maybe the off season outside of Welk or 681 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: the biggest edition for Denver in the off seas, I agree, 682 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: get that off your chest. Two years, four and a 683 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: half million dollars, John Elway, what a signing. He gets 684 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: pot Rose knighton his best run defender. He gets Sean Phillips, 685 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: who I know is replacing a mistake in Doomerville, but 686 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: ultimately Phillips has been good. He gets Dominique Rogers Crow Marty, 687 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: who has been their best cornerback. What a free agent Hall, 688 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: I know I'm forgetting. I'm forgetting some off the top 689 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: of my head. Dan. They don't have Peyton Manning without Elway. 690 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: And I asked us to Dan downstairs because I think 691 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: we look at John Elway and for us we just 692 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: still remember him as the guy scampering around her quarterback. 693 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: Is he underrated as a general manager? I mean he's 694 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: done an incredible job. Yeah. You whenever Peyton Manning is involved, 695 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: and it's the same thing with John Fox, it's almost 696 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: hard to discern. And even the offensive coordinator gains it's 697 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: hard to discern, you know, if he's great or it's 698 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: because he has the greatest quarterback ever. But he deserves 699 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: Elwaly deserves credit. He came in there and immediately that 700 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: team headed in the right direction, and even with the 701 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: horrible Tim Tebow, they were a playoff team and won 702 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: a playoff game that was the product of a lot 703 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: of people forgot that was a great defense that was 704 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: that was in place there more than Tebow. And now 705 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: you he made getting Manning was on Lway because he 706 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: was able to woo him to town and they built 707 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: a nice team right and also Alway, And not that 708 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: anyone would choose Tebow over Elway, but he very He 709 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: did a nice job of taking Denver out of that 710 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: whole Tebow mania, the thing it was entrenched in sand. Perfect. No, No, 711 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: we're gonna go get a quarterback. And by perfectly you 712 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: mean he got Tebow on the first flight out of town. 713 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Then well he did not. You know, some teams hang 714 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: on to the wrong quarterback for two or three years 715 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: and not to get to not to start talking about Tebow. 716 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: But the genius of what Elway managed was when tebow 717 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: Mania was raging at full effect and every day people 718 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: were coming to him and like, all right, now you 719 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: obviously buy in on this. He was always like, you know, 720 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: it was good. That's fine, We're not going to make 721 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: any decisions. It was good. It was good. True, like 722 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: he never bought in and that's a testam with him. 723 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: But anyway, yes, I think that he's doing a great job. 724 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: As as we say they're in the super Bowl. It's 725 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: like it's like Terrence, you still call him Terrence and 726 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: you call him pot Ross, just like we can call 727 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: it a Gholston and a dirty Peter. I mean, he 728 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: he whipped Logan Mankin's there a couple of times. Both 729 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: offensive lines got a lot of credit this year for 730 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: being good groups, and Denver's offensive line looked like the 731 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: far better unit. Today we're the guys who weren't starters 732 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, where New England starters 733 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: typically completely solid, didn't have a good game today. Okay, 734 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: so if you missed any of the last twenty minutes 735 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: or so, the Denver Bronco is completely embarrassed the New 736 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: England Patriots in every way match I'll see you next season. 737 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: That seems like an overstatement. It's too bad, though. Good bye. 738 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: Good job by John Fox. By the way, because you 739 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: talked about growing from losses, you could put a lot 740 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: of last year's lost on him kneeling on the football 741 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: uh and taking overtime against the Ravens. There were spots 742 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: in this game where the Patriots could have gotten back 743 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: into it if they went ball controlled and ran into 744 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 1: the line. They kept throwing the ball, and that showed 745 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: a difference in philosophy from last year to this year, 746 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: and that paid off. And it all goes back to 747 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: what he should have leaned on last year, which was 748 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: you have an amazing quarterback, let him make the plays, 749 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: and if he screws you, that's what happens. You can't 750 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: get mad about that. Give him a chance for all 751 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: the dominance. If the Patriots had gotten that two point conversion, 752 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 1: as Bill Belichick said after them that would have changed 753 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: their strategy. They would have kicked the ball off. He 754 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: didn't say that directly, but he said it would have 755 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: changed their strategy. But I don't as a Patriots fan, 756 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it would have mattered because I think 757 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: you said it. John Fox has been aggressive. He let 758 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: him throw there when they got the ball. I think 759 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: he would have let him throw if they got the 760 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: ball up eight points. And I think the Broncos would 761 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: have gone down the field and run the clock out, 762 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: because there's no reason to think they would enough they've 763 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: dominated all game. I just picture John Fox last night 764 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: at like one in the morning, and it's like hotel 765 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: with like his a phone to his here with Ron 766 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: Rivera just saying, listen, you gotta you gotta do what 767 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: I definite ever Boat run Hey and two Super Bowl 768 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: UH coaches here, both retreads, John Fox and Pete Carrolls. 769 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: Whenever you break out that retread, go get a retread 770 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: in any area of life where you can find a 771 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: retread part of what it is that you do do it. 772 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: How about experience. It's like an older woman experience, not 773 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: a retread that they can know a lot We totally 774 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: lost Greig on that last West of what it chimed 775 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: in with something about the ways of a lady. Yes, crystals, 776 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: enjoy it. I'm not sure where Greg was taking us there, 777 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: but let's continue on. It's been a log day, all right. 778 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: So that does it for Sunday's edition of the Around 779 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: the League Podcast. Championships. Sunday edition of the Around League Podcast, 780 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: will we will be back Tuesday. We will have the 781 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: off forementioned West back with us and once again hanging 782 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: their West and West. We'll talk some football Tuesday. It'll 783 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: be great. We'll get West on the phone and uh 784 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: until then, and we have a lot of there's a 785 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: lot to get to because the super Bowl is the 786 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: next game. You know what else we have Tuesday? Kevin 787 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: Patra not in Chicago in Hawaii covering the Pro Bowl 788 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: for us. Gonna get some good inside scoops there. It's 789 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: gonna be like a lost in translation situation for Patri 790 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: and Hawaii. I think he's just gonna be kind of 791 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: hanging out at the bar alone, maybe, you know, talking 792 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: up some coaches you're seeing at the league hotel in Hawaii. 793 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: That's a good assignment right there. I think there's some 794 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: Bill Murray parallels with patra I don't see them, but 795 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust you on this. Well, he just hopes 796 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: there's a Scarlett Johansson involved. I don't see that either, 797 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: all right, so yes, we will be back on Tuesday. 798 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: Until then, this is Dan Hanson signing off for the Sizzler, 799 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: for the Boss for k Rich behind the Glass until Tuesday. 800 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: The Ways of an Older Woman Someday