WEBVTT - Tardigrades: Nature's Cuddly, Indestructible Microanimal

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast on Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Jerry. This is

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you should know about Toward Grades. Uh never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of these little guys, and now they have shot into

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<v Speaker 1>the top five alongside the octopus and uh, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>other one that I jellyfish? Jellyfish. These little dudes. Want

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<v Speaker 1>to hug them. I might be hugging them right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you could well, probably not, probably not, But I love them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're cute them, they're tiny that not hardly anybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>what they are. I would say they're I would say

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<v Speaker 1>of people listening, do not know what this is? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was under the US and that they were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a big hit on the internet within the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years. Well, I'm not happy to that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe, okay, it might have been a part of

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<v Speaker 1>a meme. I don't know what political meme. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think tart grades had a had a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But it turns out that they they've been around for

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<v Speaker 1>much longer than the Internet. Yeah, yeah, hundreds of millions

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<v Speaker 1>of years. Yeah, somewhere around the neighborhood of six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million years, which would make them Precambrian explosion, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>them really old PC. Yeah, so before we get into that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's tell you what we're talking about. A tart of

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<v Speaker 1>grade also known as a water bear. Cute name. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite moss piglet um pigmy rhinoceros pigmy armadillo.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like armadillos ever since our lepers episode. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>They are a little tiny micro scopic animals, animals, multicellular

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<v Speaker 1>animals that UM reproduce sexually. In a lot of cases

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<v Speaker 1>that UM are well, they're animals. They're not just like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not bacteria and that viruses. They're not bugs. They're

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<v Speaker 1>very very small. They get to be about a half

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<v Speaker 1>to one millimeter in size depending on the species. And UM.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also super cute depending on your view of things. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>first thing you should do, if you're at home or

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not driving, let's say, is pull at your

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<v Speaker 1>phone or your or your desktop, pull out your desktop

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<v Speaker 1>and look up charted grade and just look at a

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<v Speaker 1>little picture of it, and you know, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about. UM, if you ask me. People

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<v Speaker 1>liking it to a panda bear. I don't quite get that,

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<v Speaker 1>although the have Have Have you seen the picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>one on its back? No, I don't think I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cute. Looks like you just wants to maratches a

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<v Speaker 1>little belly. But it looks to me like if moth

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<v Speaker 1>caterpillar and a naked mole rat and unholy union. That

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome. That was the best analogy of that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what looks like to me, um holy, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they managed to do it somehow. Tells uh the name

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<v Speaker 1>tarte grade is from Latin and it actually means slow walker,

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<v Speaker 1>which is cute in and of itself, and that supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>was named by um. This Italian scientists named Lazaro Spitzani.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell him the name of his book. I love this name.

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<v Speaker 1>His book was Oh boy, Opa scorely de Fistia and Nimala.

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<v Speaker 1>The bield not bad, not bad. You didn't raise your

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<v Speaker 1>your fingers though, that's right. But he named this guy

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<v Speaker 1>he found this well, he didn't discover it. Apparently before him.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventeen seventy three, a German pastor name Johan all

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<v Speaker 1>Goes from gets Uh discovered it. But he is the

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<v Speaker 1>one Spottsani is the one who named it uh, which

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<v Speaker 1>means slow stepper. Yeah. And the reason he called it

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<v Speaker 1>that is because if you look under a microscope at

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff, which was all the rage in the

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<v Speaker 1>late eighteenth century, look at all this stuff. After why

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<v Speaker 1>was his name Anton von Leavin hook Am I saying

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<v Speaker 1>that correctly? I don't remember. I'm pretty sure. Um. After

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<v Speaker 1>he started to invent microscopes, and they there you spread,

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<v Speaker 1>people started looking at what was in debris and rain gutters.

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<v Speaker 1>The added water to it, and they found that when

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<v Speaker 1>you add water to stuff that was just dried up

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<v Speaker 1>dust and a rain gutter, all of a sudden you

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<v Speaker 1>saw that there was a bunch of things that came

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<v Speaker 1>to life. And most of those things move around really

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<v Speaker 1>really fast, just starting about like, oh, it's over here,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go over there. I want to go over there.

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<v Speaker 1>They have like very short engine spans, right tartar grades

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<v Speaker 1>lumber about. They kind of fall and flip over a

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<v Speaker 1>lot as they're climbing over like pieces of dust and

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<v Speaker 1>other particles. Um. And they move much more slowly and

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess deliberately compared to their other microscopic friends

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the rain got or debris, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>where they got their name. Um. They have eight legs,

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<v Speaker 1>a little little short, little stubby legs right into their

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<v Speaker 1>rear legs are inverted right, so they're facing forward instead

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<v Speaker 1>of backward, and they face backwards. They face backwards instead

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<v Speaker 1>of forward. And all their legs have little claws at

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<v Speaker 1>the end right for climbing, for climbing, and the first

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<v Speaker 1>three pairs of legs are used for swimming. The back

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<v Speaker 1>are you're used for climbing only in rudder work the

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<v Speaker 1>front with battle and they steer with the rear they

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<v Speaker 1>make dream hands. Uh. And what are they climbing over? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends. You can find them all over the place, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but mainly if they're on dry land, they're they're living

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<v Speaker 1>in moss, fallen leaves, um, stuff that you would find

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<v Speaker 1>in a gutter lichen. Yeah, yeah, things that typically um

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<v Speaker 1>have moisture in them because water bears tartar grades UM

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<v Speaker 1>survive when they're surrounded by moisture. Right when they're amid moisture, freshwater,

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<v Speaker 1>salt water doesn't matter, No, it doesn't inventil the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of course. Right. So there they apparently originated in the

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<v Speaker 1>sea because the species of tartar grades that are marine

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<v Speaker 1>based are the least evolved, I guess you'd put it. Then, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got freshwater ones, and then you've got ones that

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<v Speaker 1>are terrestrial that you can find on land, and those

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones that live in lichens and moss and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Um, and all of them again are

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<v Speaker 1>part of this branch of the family tree that's its

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<v Speaker 1>own phylum. Tarta grata is a phylum. And this article

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<v Speaker 1>makes the point that, um, if you look at humans,

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<v Speaker 1>where where we share a phylum Cordata with like snakes

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<v Speaker 1>and um, every other vertebrate on Earth. Right, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>have their own file there, in their own club. They

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<v Speaker 1>really are. So that says two things. That they're a

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<v Speaker 1>very ancient line and that there's a ton of them,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. Yeah. And there are there's water

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<v Speaker 1>bears everywhere. Yeah, and we mentioned that they're animals. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at a picture, it's probably from them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Not probably, it's definitely from a microscope. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>know you think that again like it's just some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of bacteria or something, um, but it's not. It is

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<v Speaker 1>an animal. It has a brain as a nervous system,

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<v Speaker 1>It has a little stomach and little tiny intestines, has

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<v Speaker 1>a little tiny anus, little tiny esophagus, and uh, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have heart and lungs or veins. Because I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say open source, they are open uh hemail, as

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<v Speaker 1>the lady on the internet said, which means that gas

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<v Speaker 1>exchange and nutrient exchange happens because every cell in the

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<v Speaker 1>tartar grades body is touching the the interior body cavity.

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<v Speaker 1>So as food and air goes through the mouth and

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<v Speaker 1>out his tiny venus, right, Um, those nutrients and those

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<v Speaker 1>gases get to get passed into the cells that get

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<v Speaker 1>pass that that it passes by. Yeah, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>studio apartment. It's actually extremely efficient. Sure. So they're about

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand species or more of tartar grades um. Six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred or so on land, about three hundred marine and

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<v Speaker 1>about a hundred in the fresh water. Um. They lay eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them have sex, some of them don't. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them self fertilize. Yeah, that's pretty interesting stuff. Else,

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<v Speaker 1>they eat the fluids of plants or they some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are carnivores. Yeah, the fluids of animals. There's always

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<v Speaker 1>got to be fluid. Yeah, they have like a piercing

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<v Speaker 1>mouth part. I believe that can pierce cell wall and

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<v Speaker 1>just suck the fluids and proteins and stuff out of

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<v Speaker 1>a cell. And depending on the species that cell, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>plant based, or it may be animal based, including other

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<v Speaker 1>tartar grades, which is decidedly less cute cannibalism. Sure so,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're sitting there right now and you're thinking, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see how this rivals and octopus, these are just tiny,

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<v Speaker 1>little maybe kind of cute, but tiny little animals. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the big whoop? Uh? Right after this break, we'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what the big wholp is. All Right, we're back

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<v Speaker 1>with the big whoop about tartar grades. Despite the size

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<v Speaker 1>of these things, how big were they? Again? Uh? In

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<v Speaker 1>a if you look at a magazine article, they're about

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<v Speaker 1>half the size of a period at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>a sentence. That's a what's a magazine? No? No, that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>you say that, but it's true. That's a good way

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<v Speaker 1>to put it though. So they're that tiny, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are one of the toughest, most resilient creatures on the

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<v Speaker 1>planet Earth. Period they're probably the most resilient animal or

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<v Speaker 1>organism on Earth. Amazing. All right, let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about temperature. Yeah, they like it that like

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<v Speaker 1>seventy degrees and nothing else. Right, So, well, what's weird

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<v Speaker 1>is there's this longstanding tradition and biology of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>kill tartar grades under really not so conditions. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what these little guy can take. Basically, I'm not quite

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<v Speaker 1>sure how it started, but somebody figured out um fairly

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<v Speaker 1>fairly early on that they could withstand amazingly cold temperatures. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking like down to basically absolute zero, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple just a couple of degrees above absolute zero. And

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<v Speaker 1>to understand how crazy that anything could survive at absolute zero.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where like atomic movement based ceases, because absolute zero

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<v Speaker 1>there's no movement of atoms or molecules any longer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what he does. Heat energies the movement of

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<v Speaker 1>atoms and molecules, so cold, by contrast, is the cessation

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<v Speaker 1>or the lesser movement of atoms. Right, we're talking negative

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy two celsius negative fahrenheit. So targe grades have

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<v Speaker 1>been kept at that temperature for twenty hours and then

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<v Speaker 1>thought out and they said that's what you got. You

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<v Speaker 1>got a tickto this is great. I think I fell

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<v Speaker 1>the fly on my shoulder. Uh yeah, seemingly unharmed. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They put them on ice uh at negative two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>celsius and not absolute zero, but they've iced them down

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<v Speaker 1>for years in a row, thought them out. They were

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<v Speaker 1>right back to normal. Amazing. Then on the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>they've exposed them to extraordinarily hot temperatures like a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty degrees celsius and um, we should say so

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're surviving that's like, wow, fifty degrees celsius.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hot. Absolute zero, that's cold. The reason why it's

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<v Speaker 1>so incredibly just mind boggling that Tarte grades can survive

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<v Speaker 1>this and still be animals is that they appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be the only life that can survive these conditions. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason why is if you freeze and your multicellular your

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<v Speaker 1>cells are liable to freeze themselves, and there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of cellular damage when the ice crystals form

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<v Speaker 1>in your cells, they're gonna rupture yourselves because ice expands

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<v Speaker 1>when it freezes. Right. It's also less to yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>did a frostbite frost. So the fact that they can

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<v Speaker 1>come back to life after being exposed to these really

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<v Speaker 1>cold temperatures means that they've got something going on that's

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<v Speaker 1>keeping their cells from rupturing. Science has no idea why.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, with heat, tremendous heat. When you

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<v Speaker 1>are you expose a cell to a hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>egrees celsius, which is above the boiling point of water,

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<v Speaker 1>right you are, your proteins are gonna unfold and pool

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<v Speaker 1>and coagulate and be totally useless. So you can't come

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<v Speaker 1>back to life because all of the processes and the

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<v Speaker 1>building blocks of life are useless in your body, and

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to start from scratch, which is tough

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up to when you're trying to to come

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<v Speaker 1>back alive from being exposed to high temperatures. Tarte grades

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<v Speaker 1>do it all right. So they flash freeze them, They

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<v Speaker 1>freeze them for years, They boil them, they try and

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<v Speaker 1>smash them to the tune of fifty eight hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 1>per square inch of pressure. And the Tartar grade was like,

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<v Speaker 1>bring it, yeah, no problem. And we're talking about pressures

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<v Speaker 1>that are six times greater than the greatest pressures found

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere on Earth. And they withstand it. Uh, they blasted them.

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<v Speaker 1>They tried to suffocate them. They prepped tiny little hands

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<v Speaker 1>around their throat. They put on tiny black gloves first

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<v Speaker 1>so they didn't leave any of it. Now, they tried

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<v Speaker 1>to suffocate him with carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide,

0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:42.400
<v Speaker 1>nitrogen UM. They've shot them with gamma raise what the

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<v Speaker 1>X rays. Yeah, they found there was a French study

0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that found that um. It took five hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>thousand room Gin's I think that's how you say it

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<v Speaker 1>to kill fifty of the tartar grades in a sample

0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.280
<v Speaker 1>but still lived. And that's five hundred and seventy thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes five hundred to kill a human, but it

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<v Speaker 1>took five hundred and seventy thousand to kill half, just

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<v Speaker 1>half of the tartar grades in a sample. Yeah, they

0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.800
<v Speaker 1>shot them up into space and I think about half

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<v Speaker 1>of those lived, right, So they literally, like he said,

0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.800
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to come up with newer and more creative

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<v Speaker 1>ways to kill these things. And the tartar grades take

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<v Speaker 1>all comers basically. And there they have a couple of mechanisms. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>science is trying to figure out one how their cells

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<v Speaker 1>keep from freezing in a way that they would rupture

0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.280
<v Speaker 1>or how their proteins keep from unfolding. But like that

0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:41.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of radiation exposure should do all sorts of horrible things.

0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.880
<v Speaker 1>You should go listen to our radiation sickness episode. That

0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.800
<v Speaker 1>was a good one, But it should do all sorts

0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of horrible things, like break up the n A. But

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<v Speaker 1>apparently they have some sort of mechanism to prevent this

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<v Speaker 1>from happening, right while they have a mechanism to stitch

0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it back together. And apparently they also produce a protein

0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.640
<v Speaker 1>called de s up that UH acts as a shield

0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that wraps itself around DNA and and basically shields the

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<v Speaker 1>DNA from radiation exposure to begin with. So um, they

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<v Speaker 1>have all these these natural processes, but they also have

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<v Speaker 1>passive processes as well that that include basically like going

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<v Speaker 1>into a state of suspended animation depending on the conditions. Yeah,

0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:29.880
<v Speaker 1>there are two things called um uh an oxybiosis and cryptobiosis.

0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Those are two of the three states where these things live. Um.

0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.800
<v Speaker 1>The other one is just the active state, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just a regular living normal charter grade. That's where they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing all their daily life basically, which I don't think

0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.880
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned. You know, there's not a lot to that part. No,

0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.480
<v Speaker 1>And apparently researchers are like, we have no idea what

0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.640
<v Speaker 1>role they play in ecosis. Yeah, that's kind of what

0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, Like, they're indestructible. They're gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing left maybe after our nuclear annihilation or global

0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.880
<v Speaker 1>warming has wiped us off the face of the earth. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but why nobody knows? Who knows? Maybe they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>grow up and be big boys one day. Well No,

0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that's a really great question though, because if you think

0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.000
<v Speaker 1>about it, you're like, why would these things be able

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<v Speaker 1>to withstand pressure six times greater than what's present on Earth,

0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.960
<v Speaker 1>or radiation like you would never find on Earth, or

0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:21.119
<v Speaker 1>temperatures like you would never doesn't make any sense until

0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.359
<v Speaker 1>you stop and think, like, there doesn't have to be

0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.359
<v Speaker 1>a reason. It could just be that they have strategies

0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that they used to defend themselves against certain conditions on

0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Earth that are just just totally unrelatedly, also happened to

0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.000
<v Speaker 1>cover these other conditions that we humans try to launch

0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>them into that a tartar grade would never would never

0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:45.119
<v Speaker 1>evolve to take on. But they can still withstand it.

0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Like you asked the tartar grade and They're like, We're

0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.399
<v Speaker 1>just trying to survive dude, right, Like, why you have

0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to lay a purpose on it? What's with your hangups?

0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.960
<v Speaker 1>So the first one I mentioned, the an oxybiosis set

0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.160
<v Speaker 1>s whim. If you like starve them of oxygen, they

0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.480
<v Speaker 1>will puff up, uh in a little ball and stay

0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that way. Basically, Yeah, I guess they lose their ability

0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to um regulate fluid transmission in and out of their cells,

0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and fluid rushes in and they puff up and they

0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.920
<v Speaker 1>can stay that way I think for a few days,

0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.199
<v Speaker 1>and then after that they die. But not bad. A

0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.480
<v Speaker 1>few days of being completely saturated with water not bad. Uh.

0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.480
<v Speaker 1>The other one that's really amazing though, is a cryptobiosis.

0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.359
<v Speaker 1>So uh, we said that they do need this water. Um.

0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.320
<v Speaker 1>If they doesn't mean they have to live in the water,

0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.280
<v Speaker 1>but they need water. Um. But if this water eventually

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.359
<v Speaker 1>goes away and you dry them up, they pull in

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<v Speaker 1>their feet, they pull in their head, and they basically

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<v Speaker 1>stop metabolizing. They go into this weird state of suspended

0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.239
<v Speaker 1>animation where they say, all right, I'm I'm basically you

0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.600
<v Speaker 1>think I'm dead. By all accounts, I look like I

0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.199
<v Speaker 1>would be dead, but I'm not and it's called a

0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.840
<v Speaker 1>ton state to you in yeah, or tune. I think

0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.639
<v Speaker 1>it might be tuned because it was it's short for

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<v Speaker 1>um tune conform. It's got a it's a German word

0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.720
<v Speaker 1>with an oom lot over the oh. So wouldn't it

0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.320
<v Speaker 1>be a two? Well, it's like turn trench in form,

0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.359
<v Speaker 1>tune in form. But I'm gonna call it a ton state.

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh Okay, So this this ton state or tuned state,

0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that's how I'm going to say it. Uh. Their metabolism

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.080
<v Speaker 1>solows down to like point zero five percent of its

0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:34.720
<v Speaker 1>normal rate. Right. And there was a researcher in the

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<v Speaker 1>forties in Italy who said that she revived a sample

0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>of tartar grades from a sample of dry moss that

0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.800
<v Speaker 1>had been collected like a hundred and twenty years before. Well,

0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:51.439
<v Speaker 1>apparently no one's ever recreated that one, but they have

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.120
<v Speaker 1>found that a tartar grade can survive in this teen

0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:59.879
<v Speaker 1>state for at least thirty two years. Some Japanese researchers

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<v Speaker 1>took moss that was collected from Antarctica in three and

0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:08.199
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and fifteen, they opened up the sample

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and where they rehydrated it, and they found that some

0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.440
<v Speaker 1>tartar grades came alive. It's almost like it freeze, dries

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:18.840
<v Speaker 1>itself and just needs to have, you know, add water.

0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, all right, what what happened over the

0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 1>last thirty years? Right exactly? This president The thing is, though,

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is if something dries out, it loses it's of its water,

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:34.320
<v Speaker 1>it's moisture from its body. I think, Okay, if something

0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.080
<v Speaker 1>drives out like that, like your DNA needs water to

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.879
<v Speaker 1>If DNA stays dry, it starts to deteriorate pretty quickly.

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.440
<v Speaker 1>So again, nothing is supposed to be able to survive

0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:50.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty years of that state, right. Um, So this has

0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>just got researchers puzzled as well, like how are they

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 1>doing this kind of thing? Apparently they have um proteins

0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:01.440
<v Speaker 1>that helped stitch DNA back together, So I guess they

0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.760
<v Speaker 1>start to come out of the tune state and one

0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of the first things they do is stitch back this

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>their d n A they get up the little sew machine. Yeah,

0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>well there's this one dude, and we'll take a break

0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and talk about his a seeming obsession, uh with these

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 1>little fellows right after this. Alright, so if you want

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to know everything, you want, need to know about a

0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:47.120
<v Speaker 1>charter grade, you should sit down and have coffee with

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>unc Chapel Hill Coatar. Heels uh with this? Is he

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a professor? He's just he's a prof Thomas Boothby. This

0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:02.480
<v Speaker 1>dude seems like he go to like every article I

0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:07.480
<v Speaker 1>read featured him as the main uh Interviewee. Well, he

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 1>likes to talk tartar grade. He does. He has a

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 1>button that he wears all the time. Said, asked me

0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 1>about tartar grade. People like what, Uh so, Yeah, I don't,

0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm sure it's not an obsession. But he

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:23.360
<v Speaker 1>is stricken with him as I am. And Um, he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out like how and why they're able

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 1>to do all these amazing things. Um, probably more on

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the how than the why. He's why. He seems to

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of I don't know. He leaves that

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<v Speaker 1>to the philosophy professors. Yeah, exactly so what Thomas Boothby

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>made his name not in the way that he would

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily like when he was leading a team I think

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand fourteen, maybe maybe two fift that that

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<v Speaker 1>did a genetic scan of a species of water bears

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<v Speaker 1>and found some really surprising results, Right, they found that

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<v Speaker 1>something like seventeen percent and change of genes in the

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 1>water bears were associated with other things like fungi, bacteria, viruses,

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that they had all these DNA stitched up with theirs,

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and that the the assumption was that that was how

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the Tarte grades were able to do all these amazing

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>things and survive in all these ways because they were

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 1>borrowing talents and traits and characteristics of unicellular life and

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>non living life like viruses, and that that's how they

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>were able to to survive these extreme conditions. Yeah, but

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, the kind of ended up being a watch.

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Like he got really excited and thought, oh my gosh,

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>they've got all this stuff, but it turns out they

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:57.719
<v Speaker 1>were just contaminated through poor experimentation. They they assumed that

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>there was lateral gene transfer that was going on. It

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 1>turns out that yeah, they had a contaminated sample. And

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 1>hats off to Thomas S. Boothby because he's not like, Okay,

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go hide for the next decade like he's

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.360
<v Speaker 1>he was like, Hey, it happens. It's science, man. We've

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>gotten increasingly sophisticated machines and the increasingly sophisticated machines found

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that our sample is contaminated. Let's get back to work.

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 1>So the Japanese researchers that follow up on a different

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>type of tarted grade one of the hardiest around um

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Resuma tourists pantasma. Basically, I was hoping that's what it was,

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>but it was like ramas odious, very natus. Here it

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:46.120
<v Speaker 1>comes this, uh, and that's one of the hardiest of all.

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a land species. Um, the land are much more hardier.

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I think we already said that, right, And well there's

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:55.679
<v Speaker 1>your why, Chuck that one of the reasons why these

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the land um species have have evolved is because they

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>have too They don't have these stable conditions that the

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>marine and aquatic ones do. Right. Yeah, So, um, they

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>tested the res ramas odious are very an odous species,

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and they found that they had about one percent of

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>foreign genes involved in them, which is about normal because

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>lateral gene transfer can happen at that rate. It's just

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of average. All right. So, like you said, he

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 1>held us head high and said, all right, no big deal.

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>We're going to continue to search for the reasons why

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>these little dudes are so hardy. One of the things

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>that they found that was pretty unique is um ice

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>is a big deal. And we talked a little bit

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>a few minutes ago harkening back to the frost bite

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.679
<v Speaker 1>where ice crystals form inside a cell, tearing apart that DNA.

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>And there are some animals that make an anti fee

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>freeze like protein like fish. Some fish do that to

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>keep it from freezing. And they thought, well, maybe the

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 1>chart grade is doing that, and they don't think it is.

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.679
<v Speaker 1>They think it can just handle it basically a right, like,

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just freezing the outside of the cells and

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 1>not the inside like some weird mechanism they don't understand.

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's definitely not producing in any freeze like some

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>of these fish are. It's just like, bring bring it on,

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>little ice. I can take it. I can take that problem.

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:22.120
<v Speaker 1>And again with radiation exposure they have they've they've been

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 1>found to have proteins that shield DNA and the ability

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to stitch DNA back together. Right, Yeah, so you got

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that covered. Yeah, And I think you alluded to it earlier. Um,

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>it may not be the case of the Tartar grade

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>has all these different things to survive these environments, but

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe two or three little tricks that are just you

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>can apply to different ways of survival. So it's not

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>like they're evolving to go fly through space colonize new plants.

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>That's a question that a lot of people come up

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>with once they learn about tartar grades, is like, well,

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, are these things like aliens? Did they

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.199
<v Speaker 1>come on an ast roid and basically gets spread like

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:06.959
<v Speaker 1>seed here on Earth? Um, they could survive space, some

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>of them could conceivably, but um, they would burn up

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 1>on re entry, so probably not. So were they on

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>on the back of an asteroid, they would, Yeah, they'd

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>burn up because fire apparently can kill a charter grade

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess. Yeah. And those space experiments, they were inside

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the satellite, inside the capsule, protected from re entry until

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>they were out in space, and then they were exposed

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>to solar radiation and then they were put back in

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the capsule and brought back to Earth and sound. Yeah. So,

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>like the thing he found in common was with the

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>heat and the cold, the common length there is an

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>ability to repair DNA, and so maybe that's the sort

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of common denominator here. They're just good at it, and

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>they're good at it because they have to be or

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>else they wouldn't be around. Yeah, they were forced into it. Yeah,

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty nihilistic you. I like it. There is

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>another thing that stood out to me. I just love

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 1>so um. At the pressures they can withstand, the fatty

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>membranes of their cells should be as solid as cold butter,

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and again should stop functioning at those pressures, or should

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<v Speaker 1>kill them. They bounce back solid as cold butter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean think about it. Like, normally, fatty membranes that

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<v Speaker 1>make up cells, they're basically in a liquid state cold butter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not good for cellular function. Yeah. It's also not

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<v Speaker 1>good when they give it to you at a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, to put on the bread. You know the

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<v Speaker 1>key to that stick it under your arm. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>just hold it in my hands, and you want you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to get greedy and try to do two

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<v Speaker 1>it once, don't. It slows it down more than it

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<v Speaker 1>longer than it takes to do two separately. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you got butter on your hands. No, No, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you get the little foil rap kind. Oh I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about I served you a dish with cold you leave. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about like a you know, a real restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>that just has butter in a dish. That's That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. You leave that restaurant. That's not a real

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant if somebody, somebody's not paying attention to detail or

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<v Speaker 1>even the worst or the little cold butter balls that

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<v Speaker 1>they've scooped, and it's just took that in your cheek

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not spreadable. It's useless. Yeah, it just rolls

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<v Speaker 1>around when you try to put it in a nerf gun.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard, man, have you seen those things lately?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I was watching the kid's chair on

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and try not to get to like

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<v Speaker 1>hysterical about stuff. But the nerf guns these days, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're like assault weapons. I guess I do. Like so

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't count, Yeah, I know, but it's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's clearly made me think, like, huh, well, they're clearly

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<v Speaker 1>indoctrinating young children as young as possible. You like this

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<v Speaker 1>nerve gun, you're gonna love anyway? Uh Wow, that took

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<v Speaker 1>a weird turn at the end, Yeah, didn't it. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know more about tarte grades or guns,

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<v Speaker 1>you can type those words into the search part how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com and since I said, whatever, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for listener mail, I'm gonna call this Aaron Sorkin rebuttal.

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<v Speaker 1>This from Mark Frost. Hey, guys, had a comment to

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<v Speaker 1>about Chuck's professed dislike of Aaron Sorkin. Was that you

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was me? That was me? Did you?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you gang up? Yeah? Okay? My wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>are definitely fans, But I want to put a different

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<v Speaker 1>perspective out there for you to consider. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anyone is supposed to consider his writing to be conversational.

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<v Speaker 1>I would kind of liken it to a musical or

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<v Speaker 1>the place of Shakespeare, and he says, I'm not equating

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<v Speaker 1>Shakespeare with Sorkin. Musicals aren't how people talk. Shakespeare was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not representing how people talk. Back then, uh, for

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<v Speaker 1>Willie the Sheik, it was a poetic language filled with

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<v Speaker 1>metaphors that turns a lot of people off even today.

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<v Speaker 1>But like with musicals, it's a stylized way of showing

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<v Speaker 1>what people are feeling and thinking. Realizing that, yes, people

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk that way actually makes me enjoy it more.

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<v Speaker 1>In some ways, it makes things more compact, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it can express feelings ideas more quickly. We can often

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<v Speaker 1>do so with more do so more entertainingly. Uh as

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<v Speaker 1>the people are way more quick witted than you would

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<v Speaker 1>be in real life. But suspending your disbelief makes it

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyable for me, at least. I think that's the problem

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<v Speaker 1>I have with it. It it prevents me from suspending disbelief. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>me too. I definitely like to Steve Jobs movie, which

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<v Speaker 1>we both liked. Right. You liked it, okay, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually liked how clearly artificial the construction of it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed very much like a play in several acts.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you there, sir. I did not feel

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<v Speaker 1>like anything that was attempting to show real events or

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<v Speaker 1>real sequences, but rather to condense a lot of what

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<v Speaker 1>happened during periods of his life into specific scenes. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with all that. Then those scenes packed in the

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<v Speaker 1>drama emotions from the time they had. Uh. We also

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<v Speaker 1>just finished news Room, News news Room, and love that anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>People are always up in their own opinions, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to agree with most of your film thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>just not this one. I love both your show and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys will continue to do so. That is Mark Frost.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Mark. That was very well well written, well thought out. Thanks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. People love Aaron Sarkin. Yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 1>all that West Wing and stuff like that. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen The Night Manager? No? What is that man? Where

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<v Speaker 1>do they hear about that? Everywhere? The John Lacarre adaptation

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<v Speaker 1>with m oh Dr House and uh, actually it's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a movie? It's like a sixth part mini series.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I like this. It's very good. Check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You will like it a lot. Promise. All right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>got Josh is guaranteed. You also said it like Soyland.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that, did I? Okay, I'm just kidding.

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