1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Almost on his podcast today, 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: Ben is in Hawaii, so timing didn't exactly match up. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: But I guess who we have feeling in. 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 3: It's your husband. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: It's my husband. Hey, babe. He's actually not in the 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: same room with me or in the same state. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Right now. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually in LA doing something for Bachelor. 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: In Paradise, which is so exciting. 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: So full circle woman here. This episode was just you 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: say it for me? 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if we're on the same I 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 4: know we didn't watch it together on three Ready okay, one, two, two. 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: Three, snooze. Wow, this was a really uneventful episode. 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad because I was watching it. I'm like, uh, 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 4: does any like this is some thing happened. I mean, 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 4: it's just whatever. I mean, we listen. Sometimes you have 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: good ones, sometimes you have bad ones. Batstan Paradise is great. 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 4: There's way more good than bad. Just like this episode 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 4: was like, it was like, all right, cool, next week 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: looks good with Kat losing her mind. 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: On the beach, like is always losing her mind? 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she's a good reality personality. 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: She's a great reality personality, and she's so stunning. To me. 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: I have no problem with her being on screen all 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: the time because I just want to look at her face. 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: So interesting definition of girl hot. 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 4: Oh she's beautiful, obviously, but I don't think she's the 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: most attractive on the beach. 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: I can't. Okay, So I wasn't sure if I was 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: going to say this on air, because like it's like 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: not like to talk about somebody's looks. 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: Is like whatever, she's beautiful, obvious. 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no. I legit called Lauren my sister 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: in the middle of this episode, and I'm like, guys, 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: guys don't get it. They don't get beauty. 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: Maybe you're right. 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: Because Kat is so effing stunning. And then like Davia, 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: Davia is beautiful, very pretty, but like am my cat, 42 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: I traded faces with interesting. 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Davia is more like you right? What no 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: am I thinking? Let me just announce to the beginning 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: on the names. I always just get confused. It's terrible. 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 2: Davia is the one the blue eyes or the one 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: blue eyed mother? 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: Never mind, Yeah, she's the one who just came down. 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: Who's the one? 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: Who are you thinking? 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: The first episode, she I said she looks like Alicia 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: from uh. 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: Audrey's either Mercedes or Kylie. 54 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: Kylie. 55 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: You know they're sobertty. 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Mercedes. That's all beautiful. That's why I love asking. 57 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: I love asking Jared this question. Okay, yeah, I don't 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: want to like concenture on looks everybody. 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: Obviously they're beautiful. 60 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: No, let's just be honest. The girls are so much 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: prettier than the guys. 62 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: Uh. 63 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: I think the guys are like the Tanner's very good looking. 64 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: Tanner's very good looking. I think Tyler is cute, and 65 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: then Braiden. I think Brandon's probably the hottest. Yeah, it's 66 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: very weird that, like Jared and I are the most 67 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: comfortable talking about who we're tracked. 68 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm very secure in my sexuality. I have no doubt. 69 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: Well not just that, but like also our relationship. You 70 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: don't mind that I say that I think Brandon's the hottest. 71 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: All you think is the hottest girl. 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: All these people that we watch, they're just they're like 73 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: action figures to us. I don't even view them as 74 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: real people, no offense. I mean they're real people. We 75 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 4: should treat them as real people. Don't go after them. 76 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: But my point being is when I'm talking about their 77 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: looks or like they're track. 78 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: Of this, we're not trying to We're not trying to objectify, 79 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: but we're also just like trying to watch like viewers 80 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: and not like people who like know who are in 81 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: these positions before. 82 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: And anybody who's watching this show saying, oh, I don't objectify, We're. 83 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: Watch now get we're watching people run around. 84 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: On a beach in bikinis and bathing suits. We're objectifying, 85 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: and but as long as we're nice about it, that's 86 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: the important thing and self aware saying oh, we are objectifying, 87 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: but they're obviously beautiful people, and there are different types 88 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: of beauty, which is what we're talking about. Like, you 89 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: think Kat is absolutely stunning, she's beautiful, but I think 90 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: that there are more. 91 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: Who's the hottest Who's the hottest girl to you? 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: Ah? 93 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: First of like, you're the hottest girl to me? 94 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: Very nice, You don't have to you know who I 95 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: think is the. 96 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: Hottest girl on the beach. You're going to be stunned 97 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: by this? 98 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Wait, can I guess then? If I'm 99 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: gonna be stunned, I think you're gonna say Olivia. Then 100 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Rachel, Oh, Rachel, Okay, Rachel is thriving 101 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: in Paradise. 102 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: Yes, she's doing well. 103 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: She looks so no, but she looks like so glowy, 104 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: like she looks her best self in Paradise. 105 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, she should. Just she's a paradise girl. 106 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: She's a beach and I'm actually surprised by that. She's 107 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: the kind of girl that like looks better when she's 108 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: like a little bit more like toned down, And you 109 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: can tell that she's almost happier just by the way 110 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: that she's glowing in paradise environment than she was in 111 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: the bachelorette environment. 112 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: I feel like everybody looks better on the beach. It's 113 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: that natural glow. Yeah. 114 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: And it's funny because everybody comes home and they're like, 115 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: oh my god, wait do you see me? So girls, 116 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be so gross and sweaty, and it's like, no, no, 117 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: you actually look way you look your best. 118 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I would agree, I. 119 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: Have your best. I love my best. 120 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. Nick. 121 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 4: I was saying Nick last night and he post posted 122 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 4: a picture of me, and I'm like, I'm just so hideous. 123 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: I hate you. 124 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: You're so insane. Your face looks way better now. 125 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: That's very sweet. 126 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: I know this is not what it's about. It's not 127 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: what it's about episode, all right. So the big thing 128 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: really is that it's Cat's birthday, and on Cat's birthday, 129 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 2: like she doesn't remember that in Paradise, if it's your birthday, 130 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: you will get screwed over. Somebody will come down and 131 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: steal the person that you're with, and that, for her 132 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: is Tanner. That's our person, and who comes down is 133 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: Davia and it's legit. The entire episode is just the 134 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: back and forth between this. 135 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: I could care less that it was her birthday. I 136 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: heard it me too, But. 137 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: You and I are like people who don't really care 138 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: about our birthdays that much. I would have like forgotten 139 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: it was my birthday, especially in Paradise, but there's like 140 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: no place in time. 141 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she was like it hurts extra because it's 142 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: my birthday, and I'm like, well, I don't care. And 143 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 4: then also, you know what bugs me is when people 144 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: say on the beach that they're not here for social 145 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: media Instagram or anything like that, and I just don't 146 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: believe you. 147 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: You know that they don't really gain anything. Now it 148 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: is a little different. 149 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 4: I know, but I just the people who are like, 150 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: I'm only here for relationship, but only here for love. 151 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's ridicuous. 152 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: Well, you came to the wrong place then, because of 153 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: course you should try to form a relationship here. But 154 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: if you only came to a reality TV show to 155 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: only find love. 156 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to work out. Just 157 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: statistically speaking of course. 158 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, there is no one here ending up together. 159 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: There is not one couple. 160 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes me sad. 161 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: It almost makes me feel like the only couple that 162 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: might leave together. I guess there's two Aaron b and Eliza, 163 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 2: which they're quiet. They're quiet and calm. 164 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: But that's a good thing. 165 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: Quiet and calm usually is good because then they're not 166 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: getting much screen time, which means towards the end they'll 167 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: get more screen time because that's when like the big 168 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: decisions happen. 169 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: So it's like, all right, you guys got a shot. 170 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I guess Rachel and Branden, like, I 171 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: don't think Rachel rooting for them. I think that they 172 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: might they could end up leaving together, but they're not 173 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: like gonna be a great love. They're not ending up together. 174 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: I don't think they're anything together either, but I'm definitely 175 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: rooting for them because they're my two favorite. 176 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: On the beach. 177 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: I think same, They are my two I think they 178 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: are my two favorite individuals as well as being together. 179 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: One because I know Rachel the best out of anyone. Yep, 180 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: she might be the only girl I've ever met in 181 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: real person and like not just zoom, and she's just 182 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: such a rutable character. I don't really like her. And 183 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: then you know that I've you don't know that I've 184 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: been like rooting in support of Braiden like throughout this experience, 185 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: and Ben thinks I'm Awaco why I think reminds me 186 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: of Dean. 187 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just got a great It seems like he's 188 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: got a great personality and he's very fun loving and 189 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: I love guys like that. Now, would I want Brandon 190 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: to date my sister? Probably not, but I would love 191 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: to hang out with him. Not because he's bad, but 192 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: just because he's probably you know, he wants to play 193 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: the field. He's a good looking guy, he's young, he's 194 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: doing well for himself, Like, I don't think he's ready 195 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: to settle down. Ironically, because he's on Bachelor in Paradise, 196 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 4: but he's fond to watch in Fun to see day people. 197 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I see that the two of them think 198 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: it's gonna be like a bit for somebody to come 199 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: in the middle of that and have more fun together, 200 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? There could be like 201 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: some smoke show that comes and whisks one all of 202 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: them away, But then I think at the end of 203 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: the day, they're gonna be like, yeah, but I have 204 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: more fun with Braden or r And. 205 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: They're both so attractive, like you know, it's gonna be 206 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: hard for someone to come down and really like wow them, 207 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, totally all right, So Davia comes down, 208 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: they go on the. 209 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: Date and then well we also didn't talk about the 210 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: rose ceremony, like, which is really what kicked off the episode. 211 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, and that's when what's her name? Sam 212 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: comes in? And Sam is from Bachelor in Paradise, Canada. 213 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: How do you feel about that choice of bringing a 214 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: Canadian down? Like why? I guess that they're trying to 215 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: cater to the Canadian audience, which is huge when it 216 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: comes to Bachelor fandom. But it's just like we don't care, like, 217 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: no offense to Sam. I get that she's a reality character. 218 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: She definitely has like reality star personality points. But I'm 219 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: just like, Okay, we'd rather somebody that we know if 220 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: you have like such a selection to choose from. 221 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, for us, it's well who cares? 222 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: But if I could see why Bachelor's trying to do it, 223 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 4: because they're trying to tap into a Canadian audience, which 224 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 4: makes sense, so I really don't fault them at all. 225 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: And so she comes in obviously all the guys are 226 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 4: on her, uh quickly trying to get that rose, give 227 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: me that rose, Like. 228 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: No shame. We're just like because Sean was just like, hey, 229 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: just letting you know, like you're my only chance of 230 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: a round. 231 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, honestly, I love the honesty, right. 232 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the honesty. The problem is, and I'm 233 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: so glad she didn't give him the rose, not because 234 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: I don't like Sean. He seems nice and uh like, 235 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: I kind of wish she was stelling the beach because 236 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: he's young and good one. 237 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I wish she was there too, because 238 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: it's just like he's a good character. Peter's a boring character. 239 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a good character. 240 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: But also at the same time, she's older, and I 241 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: was like, well, I know that she's never. 242 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: Going to date this kid. At least. 243 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: Peter is thirty three, she's thirty four. There's like they're 244 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: kind of the same place at life. So there's a 245 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: part of me that is glad that she gave him 246 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: the rose because it felt more authentic, but at the 247 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: same time, like, this guy's a better character, though I'd 248 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 4: rather see him date other people. 249 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: So as an audience trying. 250 00:10:49,679 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: To date other people, yeah, yeah, same same. But there 251 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: was no other real anything worth mentioning from the cocktail 252 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: party Bachelor of Row ceremony, except for maybe the fact 253 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: that there was a little bit of a toss up 254 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: as to whom Mercedes was gonna choose because she did 255 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: leave Will hanging the week before between whethers she wasna 256 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: chose Tyler or Will, and they didn't even brush upon that, 257 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: which I did find a little bit strange. But she 258 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: ends up choosing Tyler, which I don't think was a 259 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 2: shock to anyone in the audience. Aaron s who was 260 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: with Sam, the contimpated girl goes home, No shocker there, 261 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: and then Sean and Will and then the other John, John, 262 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: the other John, Yeah, he goes home too anyway. Okay, 263 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: So then the next morning it's the whole catch a 264 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: bang and Davia picks Tanner without even talking to anyone else. 265 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: Whywie would you think about that? 266 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: I loved it. 267 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: Good for her, she likes Santa, she wants to take 268 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 4: Tanner on the date. I'm going to ask Ten on 269 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: other day. I'm not gonna talk to other guys, he says, yes. 270 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: Them, cool, we're on the way. 271 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: I think people like Obviously, Kat is just the next 272 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: in line of what we've seen in Bachelor imparatives of 273 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: people overreacting with he didn't talk to me, or she 274 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: didn't ask for my permission to go on the date 275 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: and he didn't tell me, and it's like I gave. 276 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: Him a rose the night before. It's like, guess what, guys, 277 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: this ceremonies happened every three nights. That's what's gonna happen. 278 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the life you've chosen. So uh so 279 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: they did that. 280 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: You know what? 281 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: Was another thing that I'm tired of that they did 282 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: on the Davia and Tanner day and it makes me 283 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 4: upset that everybody's doing it now. Is the Patrick Swayze 284 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: dirty dancing move. It It just it was. It's such 285 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 4: a pop culture phenomenon. And then I love that scene 286 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 4: in Crazy Stupid Love. But Ryan Gossing says he can 287 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 4: do it and they end up doing it and it's 288 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: so sweet. But like Davia and Tanner did it on 289 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: the day and then Rachel and Branden did it later on. 290 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: Rachel and Branden are allowed to do it, I know, 291 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: but it's they were sloppy and fun. 292 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: I know it's slop fun, but I get what you're saying. 293 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: I don't like it when. 294 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: Everybody have to do it now everyone, every guy has 295 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: to show off with strength. Anyway, I digress, because. 296 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: You definitely couldn't lift me up like that. 297 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: No, we weigh the same, we weigh the same. I'm kidding, kidding. 298 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: I was just telling Jared the other day that, like 299 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: non pregnant, I am the heaviest I've ever been, or 300 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: except for maybe not freshman year my freshman year in 301 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: college when I did weigh myself and it was it 302 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: was not good. 303 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: You're still very tiny, thank you. 304 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: But can I just say one little, one little tidbit 305 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: of our lives. One time Jared and I were doing 306 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: the Hungry Eyes dance in a hotel room in Hawaii 307 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: when we were just we had just gotten together. We 308 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: were like literally in the middle of like trying to 309 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: recreate a dirty dancing scene. And then the cleaning lady 310 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: came in the room and it was real hilarious, embarrassing. 311 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: Very embarrassing because we were blasting the music. So Davia 312 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: Fander going to dates and then Kat's losing her mind 313 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 4: because she's on the bed. Oh, but also Braden Rachel 314 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 4: get a day card. They go, they do this pinata thing, 315 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: very cute, very sensual. They seem to be form a connection. 316 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: I don't these are the really things be said about that. Yeah, 317 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: and then Kat is on the bed and then they're 318 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: doing this truth or Dare thing. 319 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: Oh, the truth or Dare thing was probably the juiciest 320 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: part of the episode. Yeah, because Mercedes ends up making 321 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: out with with John Henry. 322 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, John Henry, Right, and. 323 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a second, Tyler's not here because it 324 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: said somebody on the day bed and she was like 325 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: really into Tyler last week and he wasn't on the 326 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: day bed, but she had no problem going full force 327 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: with him. 328 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: And then who's with John Henry? 329 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: Olivia? 330 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: Olivia? And then Olivia and him go in the hot 331 00:14:58,680 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: tub later on. 332 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: And then they go it's obvious that John Henry is 333 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: not as into Olivia as Olivia is to him. 334 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very obviously. 335 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: There was even that hesitation, he is, who's a better kisser? 336 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: And then he like hesitated for real And it wasn't 337 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: like in a j I don't think it was in 338 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: a joking sense. 339 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: No, it was like, bro, just say her, Yeah, just 340 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: a lie right. 341 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: Now, because the white lies are fine in this situation. 342 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: Of course, nobody ever wants to hear that somebody is 343 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: a better kisser than them, Like that's this is my 344 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: old argument that yes you can, because there are people 345 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: who say, like, you should never lie, Oh you should. 346 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes that's a moment where even if the other one's 347 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: a better kisser, you just lie. 348 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: And then if it comes. 349 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: Back to haunt you because you said it on camera, 350 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: you're fine because you're trying to make her feel better. 351 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: AnyWho. 352 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: But Olivia does like suck his finger in that truth 353 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: or Dare situation, and that was sexual. 354 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: Very sexual. 355 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: But he was still thinking about Mercedes. 356 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: Was thinking Mercedes that he wanted Mercedes to suck that finger. Yeah, 357 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: And then the big thing that came from the day 358 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: bed was the Jess and Blake. 359 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 360 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me just say this. 361 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: So now we're finding out that Jess is not into 362 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: Blake as much as Blake is into Jess. This is 363 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: a moment I believe that goes back to sometimes age 364 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 4: does matter. 365 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: Only God, babe, we are just so married because I 366 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: was going to say he is too old for her. Yep, 367 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: they personally as two separate individuals, the nine year age 368 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: gap is too much. Whereas some people are eight years whatever, 369 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: some people eight years, no big deal. Like look at 370 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: Joe and Serena, right, they have like thirteen years or something. 371 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: The two of them totally different places in life. 372 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes not all the time. 373 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: But you know, life is happens in the gray and 374 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: everything is not always black and white. Like we talked 375 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: about age sometimes does not matter. Well, you know, obviously 376 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: we're talking about adults here, but you know, so if 377 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: you have a twelve age year age gap, sometimes it 378 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: doesn't matter. But in this case, it's eight or nine, 379 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 4: and it matters because Blake is in a different place 380 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: in his life and he is just not wanting to 381 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 4: test the waters and date around and he likes Jess, 382 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 4: and he wants to move forward with Jess, and Justice 383 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: isn't like that where she obviously wants to date around, 384 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: she obviously wants to explore on the beach, even to 385 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: the point where again a little just like these I'm 386 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 4: just the old man who tells people to get off 387 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: my wawn at this point, but like these little side 388 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: comments that just bug me. And Tanner said the same thing, 389 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: and it's like you people, you people, because she said, like, 390 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: I haven't done anything for myself like my friends do anything, 391 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 4: Like oh yeah, you've gone on a reality TV show 392 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: to date around on a beach and you haven't done. 393 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: Anything for yourself while being here. 394 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 4: And Tanner said the same thing where he's like, you know, 395 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: it's really important I focus on myself. I'm like, oh, 396 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 4: you're selfish, so anyway, like you have to. 397 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: Focus on yourself. 398 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: Why you are voluntarily going on this beach for yourself 399 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 4: while dating all these people and then also sorry that 400 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 4: you might have to, you know, try to be nice 401 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: to other people and date them and whatever point is, 402 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: you know, she made it known that she feels like 403 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 4: she hasn't done anything for herself whatever. But yeah, it's 404 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 4: just like it's very obvious, and I feel bad for 405 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 4: Blake because of course he's into her and he wants 406 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 4: to move forward, and it's very obvious that she wants 407 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 4: to explore. So I honestly, I think the best thing 408 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 4: for Blake, because Jess seems so indecisive in this moment 409 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 4: about what she wants to do. 410 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: I think it's back to somebody else. Yeah, I would 411 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: be I. 412 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 4: Think it's I think it would be a great move 413 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 4: for Blake just to say, listen, I think that we 414 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: need to, you know, go our separate ways right now. 415 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: It's kind of what he said, I'll give you space. 416 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think, yeah, Blake needs to hopefully, you know, 417 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: take his own advice and really not only just give 418 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 4: her space, but try to distract himself because on that beach, 419 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: as you will know, like you can give, there's only 420 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 4: so much space you can give someone. It's not like 421 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 4: you're you know, you guys aren't going to see each other. Yeah, 422 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 4: actually every ten minutes. 423 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 2: Yeah that sucks. 424 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: Well, it's because there's only what all hanging by the 425 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 4: pool while you're going down to the beach. 426 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'm still fifty feet away from you. 427 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: It's intellectual space. 428 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's only so much space I can give you, 429 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 4: so you can't really give I know, emotional space. But 430 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 4: as we well know, there's no emotional space when you're 431 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 4: trying to get there. Yeah, you're trying to hit on 432 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: someone else thirty five feet from where your ex was. 433 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: So I think it's important that Blake tries to explore 434 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: the relationships as well. 435 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: Unlet's just explore the relationships as well. 436 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 4: And I hope he like sticks to his word because 437 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 4: Blake obviously seems like the person who is gonna be 438 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: making that decision, because it feels like Jess is very 439 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: indecisive right now, which is understandable. 440 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: She's twenty four, there's all. 441 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: These hot guys on the beach, and she obviously really 442 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: likes Blake, but she's young and she wants to explore, 443 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: and it's good for her. 444 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: I just think that she's not gonna make that decision. 445 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: On another note, I forgot that would also trade faces 446 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 2: with Eliza. 447 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: I'm glad that during that whole monologue, I just gave it. 448 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 3: I guarantee you were listening to me and you were just. 449 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: Like it was. 450 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: Who else would I. 451 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: One couple we haven't brought up is Kylie and Avan 452 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: they're not gonna happen. I'm sorry. I know that Kylie 453 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: feels like supposedly secure, but we have seen nothing from them, 454 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: and I don't feel it. For Avan, I don't know 455 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: that he really likes her that much. Did you pick 456 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: up on any vibes? 457 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't pick up any vibes like that, because 458 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: Avan said that he wants to move forward with her. 459 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: When you're sitting next to Brady. 460 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: There's one thing to say it and there's one thing 461 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 2: to feel it. 462 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: Well, I guess I'm taking him at his word. 463 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 2: I guess. So I don't know. You guys, let me 464 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: know if I'm picking up vibes from avon that like 465 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: he's not that serious about this, because they've shown us 466 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: in nothing. There's one there's one you can be quiet 467 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: like Aaron b and Eliza, and that's like quiet confidence, 468 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: and then there's like quiet by a mission, And that's 469 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: what I feel with Kylie and Avan. Maybe we haven't 470 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: seen a thing of them since their date, and their 471 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: date really wasn't like a strong substance anyway. We really 472 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: you know, I know that it feels like this is 473 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: a short episode of the almost famous podcast. But I 474 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: really think we kind of covered everything. 475 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the last thing was obviously the morning of. 476 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: Davia talks to Cat. They go back and forth. Cat 477 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: is obviously trying to stick her claws into Davia and 478 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 4: figure out exactly. I don't know what she wants anymore 479 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: because it feels like she's still kind alongst talk to 480 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 4: Tanner as she was saying, because it was obvious that 481 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 4: she was upset when hearing that he wants to pursue 482 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: something with Davia. 483 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: From Davia and now we're going into the conversation. That's 484 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: our cliffhanger exactly pulling her down to talk. 485 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 4: So my imagination goes that won't go well because she's 486 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: probably just gonna lose her stuff. Also, another thing in 487 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 4: the preview, Charity comes down. 488 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: Mm hm oh, and this is so ridiculous. This is 489 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: the most ridiculous thing ever see. 490 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: I I love Charity, she's great, but in the same 491 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 4: vein as bringing down Hannaby, I am done zo with 492 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: bringing down these former bachelorettes who are in happy, committed 493 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 4: relationships and just trying to stir the pot for god 494 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: knows why, like Hannah brought down and then they made 495 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 4: it not known if I don't know what. 496 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: She was dating or not, was pretendingly she might be 497 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: down there to date. 498 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 4: I didn't like that she's in a relationship. And then 499 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 4: now Charity comes down and she's gonna maybe try to 500 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: talk badly about Aaron. 501 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: Okay, but she's not. That's what's so weird, is like 502 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 2: Aaron is all like, oh my gosh, whether she says 503 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: something that jeopardizes my chances with Eliza. Dude, what Charity 504 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: loved you. You came back, You came back to Fantasy 505 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: Sweets week after you were eliminated, and she accepted you back. 506 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 2: That's how much she liked you. You had the most 507 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: amical breakup of all time. All she's gonna do is 508 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 2: praise you and say that she'd be lucky to be 509 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: with you. So this is all just ridiculousness. 510 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: It looks like she might come down at a. 511 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: Rose ceremony, like a rose ceremony night. 512 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's at night and they're all dressed up. 513 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 4: So I'm thinking, does she come down in a rose 514 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: ceremony and throw a little rock in there of whether 515 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: you said Eliza right, whether Eliza picks Aaron or not, 516 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's like, can we just stop 517 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 4: unless it's a form bachelorette, because now it's Katie. 518 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: There's rumors Katie. 519 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: Katie is actually juicy stuff because obviously Katie's single and 520 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: now so is Blake. 521 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: All right, so of course if you go down to date, 522 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: that's different. 523 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 2: So that makes sense throw her in there, and the 524 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: speculation is that Katie might be actually going down there 525 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: to date. 526 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's listen of course, just like Rachel, if 527 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: Katie goes down there and she's like, oh, I'm here 528 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 4: to date and not just you know, try to cause 529 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 4: controversy and just you know, pluck in and pluck out. 530 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: Great, sure, go go down and date. 531 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: But I just like all these like former bachelorettes that 532 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 4: they're like making it seem like they're gonna just stir 533 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: the pot. 534 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: It's like, just please, no, thank you. Yeah. 535 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 4: The hand of thing was because I love Hannah, I 536 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 4: love Charity, but just like the way it's like being presented, 537 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, guys. 538 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: God, yeah, well that's not them, that's not on them, Okay. 539 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: I just want everybody to know that you're not you 540 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: don't think that this is like their idea. To come down, 541 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: you know, because you know, we know that this is 542 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: all a production idea. We're not getting up these girls 543 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 2: for like going to everybody. 544 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: It's not like I think everybody's aware of the fact 545 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: that neither Hannah or Charity called the show is like, Hey, 546 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: I'd love to come down. 547 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 3: Make it look like I'm just gonna Really, I know some. 548 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: People are naive, babe. Okay, my last comment about this 549 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: episode is just overalled with Kat, Like she's just she's 550 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: just too angry for anyone to be into her right now. 551 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: Of course, but that doesn't matter because she's great for 552 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 4: TV and let. 553 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: Her. 554 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: But what she's doing, And I'm probably hypocrite for even 555 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: saying it, because like, nobody would have wanted to be 556 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: with me crying Ashley. I either nobody wants to be 557 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: with her right now because she's just angry cat. She's 558 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: like angry and extra cat. I was crying an extra 559 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: Ashley and she's angry an extra cat. 560 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 561 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, but just probably doesn't like anybody there besides 562 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: him anyway. Oh except for John Henry, which we might 563 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: see in the next episode, and like they're a hot couple, 564 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: and John Henry just wants to like make out with everyone. 565 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: I feel like, so in that work, it will probably 566 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 3: work out. 567 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: And yeah, Cat is quickly becoming a great villain in Paradise, 568 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: so good for her. 569 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: And then we'll have Olivia go back into her Olivia 570 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: mode and be like, oh, yeah, Olivia is really great 571 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: when she's angry too, because she can be just as 572 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: scary as Cat. And now I just remembered what I 573 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: forgot earlier. I'm so over people being like, oh, it's 574 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: their karma, you know, like it's I feel bad for them, 575 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: but it's their karma. I'm like, guys, you signed up 576 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: for a dating show where you're all going to date 577 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: in the same environ. Okay, you're all going to get 578 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: screwed over at some point or another. 579 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 3: Uh yeah. 580 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: But I can understand why people were talking about Cat 581 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 4: like that because she kind of did that to Brandon 582 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: and now she's obviously going. 583 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 3: To be doing it. 584 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: I'll just kind of do it to each other like 585 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 2: and it's just all about like how you do it. 586 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: It's all about how you do it well. 587 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: Yes, and no, I don't know if I necessarily agree 588 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: with that, because I think some people really do do 589 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 4: it to themselves. 590 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm just saying the manner in which you 591 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: break up with somebody is like you're karma. Right, If 592 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 2: like you're kind about it and you talk about it 593 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: ahead of time, then people don't have issues with you. 594 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: But if you just like, like, yes, I go on 595 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: a date. Yeah. Yeah, So that's what I'm saying. 596 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 4: But isn't that the whole point they were arguing with karma? 597 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: If you handle it well, then you have good arma. 598 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 4: If you can do it poorly a backcarmer, and they're saying, 599 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: can't handle it plolae. Yes, yes, I don't get it. 600 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're right. I'm just saying that, like maybe 601 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: karma is like a little bit like it's just like 602 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: a heavy term to really like throw around around. 603 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: Paradise of course, because it's all fun, it's all funny 604 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: games exactly. 605 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 606 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 3: It's not real life karma. 607 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know, it's paradise karma a whole different breed, 608 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: of course. 609 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: I mean, this whole entire thing, the podcast, the show, 610 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 4: it's meant to be entertaining. Yeah, you know, it's not 611 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: we're not talking about I mean, we're all very aware 612 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: that there are you know. 613 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 3: This is meant to be an escape. 614 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 4: So when someone says karma, I don't take it as 615 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: I guess you were saying, like, hey, there's heavy things happening. 616 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 617 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: Okay, got it. No, this is an escape obviously. 618 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, guys, that was fun. I enjoy doing this 619 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, you're I like you. 620 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: You know I would hope. So, yeah, Dawston a big 621 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: kiss for me. Tell him I miss him and I'll 622 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 4: say soon. 623 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: Okay, he's up a library now. 624 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a baby, all right, I have to do help. 625 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: We suck at being really but a. 626 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: Man who's been married for over four years hope, I 627 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: suck at pet Newlywood's love you And until next time, 628 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: I've been Ashley, I've been Jared. Bye. 629 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 630 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.