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Speaker 3: But enough with that, let's get to the show.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is independent presidential candidate Robert Francis Kennedy Junior.

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Speaker 2: And well, it is a pleasure to have him back

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Speaker 2: on the show. It's great to see you.

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Speaker 4: Sir Suger.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me absolutely so. You know, we watched

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Speaker 2: your real debate. It was garnered views by millions of people.

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Speaker 2: We have some video from that actually, and we wanted

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Speaker 2: to talk to you a little bit about your decision

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Speaker 2: of the mainstream media system, which consequent Quentley was still

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Speaker 2: you decided to throw that independent event.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, there was seventy one percent of the

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Speaker 1: American people wanted me on that debate stage, and and

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Speaker 1: I qualified for the debate by the right here, I

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Speaker 1: that way, by the criteria that CNN established. We think

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Speaker 1: that that debate was an illegal campaign contribution by CNN

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Speaker 1: The debate vision in our country which is tearing our

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Speaker 1: Within five years, fifty cents out of every dollar that

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Speaker 1: promised to balance the budget and both of them ran

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Speaker 1: making government honest again. And you know, I said this

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Speaker 1: from CNN. And by the way, CNN during COVID, which

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Speaker 2: Bobby, one of the things that we do, I mean,

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Speaker 3: The fallout from that.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to get your reaction to President Biden's performance.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that he's currently fit to

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's fit to serve as president.

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Speaker 4: A whole bunch of them right.

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Speaker 2: Well, but since you were the highest polling Democrat in

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Speaker 1: We haven't heard from anybody yet. I'm sure they're looking

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Speaker 4: Twenty two hundred people in it.

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Speaker 1: This was a poll of twenty six thousand, and it

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Speaker 1: shows clearly that I'm the only person who can beat

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump than me in office, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then there's the rank and file Democrats who are

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Speaker 2: Is it something you would even consider, Bobby at this point,

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Speaker 2: you've run as an independent, You've picked your vice president.

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Speaker 2: Would you even consider running for the nomination at the

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Speaker 1: I think that that because me running is an independent

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm curious to then find out, because one of

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Speaker 2: What did you disagree with about Trump most on the

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, I think Donald Trump was a terrible president.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the things he talks about.

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Speaker 2: Returning then to the possibility of running as a Democrat,

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Speaker 2: do you still think that well? I mean, one of

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Speaker 1: I think that I am the classic Democrat. I'm the

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm Kennedy Democrat. If you go down all

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Speaker 2: Bobby, what did you make of the Supreme Court decision

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Speaker 3: It something you agreed with or disagreed with.

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Speaker 1: I think it's horrifying, I think, and I you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not partisan about this. It helped Donald Trump, but

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Speaker 2: And this is critical because, as I understand, this is

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Speaker 1: Since I don't, I honestly don't know numbers, I do

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Speaker 1: not true. Oh and you know, in terms of the

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Speaker 1: the other allegations, I listen, I've said this from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: I am not a church boy. I am not running

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Speaker 1: like that. I said it in my I had a

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Speaker 1: very very rambunctious youth. I said in my announcement speech

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Speaker 1: that I have I have if I have so many

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Speaker 1: skeletons in my closet that if that, if they could

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Speaker 1: all vote, I could run for a gig of the world.

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Speaker 1: So you know, there is vanity Fair is recycling the

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Speaker 1: thirty year old stories and I'm not you know, going

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Speaker 1: to comment on the details of any of them.

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Speaker 4: But it's you know, I am, I am.

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Speaker 2: You're talking there about the nanny situation. I mean I

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Speaker 2: do have to ask her. I mean you're denying it or.

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Speaker 4: Not, I'm not going to comment on it.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I gave you the opportunity, and officially

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Speaker 2: it's a goat.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know necessarily about what What did

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Speaker 2: they say is a spare rib of a canine.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what they said for their identification. But

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Speaker 3: we've got it from you.

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Speaker 2: I'll let the anatomy experts be the ones who can

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Speaker 2: determine that. Sir, I very much appreciate you joining us

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Speaker 2: for these questions. It's been a big interview for us,

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Speaker 2: and we wish to see you on all fifty ballots

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Speaker 2: and including on the debate stage, because that's what the

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Speaker 2: American people deserve.

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Speaker 4: So thank you, Thank you very much. Segar absolutely