Speaker 1: I have an announcement to make. We have exchanged our
Speaker 1: Christmas gifts. I want to get it out there because
Speaker 1: the questions, the questions have not stopped, the emails, the comments.
Speaker 2: You guys, I've never.
Speaker 1: I so appreciate your dedication to Will, especially getting his gifts.
Speaker 1: They really felt for Will. Everyone felt very bad that
Speaker 1: Will was. It had just he had not gotten his
Speaker 1: gifts from Writer. So I want to tell everybody, Will,
Speaker 1: why don't you tell everyone what your gift from Writer was.
Speaker 3: I got an incredibly thoughtful and progressive but in a
Speaker 3: way you're not going to think progressive in size correct
Speaker 3: and that sounds very strange. So Writer and Danielle have
Speaker 3: often Uh. I won't say it made fun, No, but
Speaker 3: poked fun in a lovely way.
Speaker 2: No, I've directly criticized. You know you criticized Judge.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know of my quote unquote George Costanza wallet.
Speaker 1: It is literally.
Speaker 4: People, you must have back problems. I need everything.
Speaker 2: I need everything in it and his priorities and I
Speaker 2: need it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't everything everything?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's credit cards. He doesn't even remember
Speaker 2: opening it.
Speaker 1: Still has his uh Blockbuster card, Blockbuster.
Speaker 2: Yeabuster Blockbuster.
Speaker 1: I'm married because I exactly because you're married because of
Speaker 1: block in your wallet, your wedding ring to remind yourself
Speaker 1: of the Blockbuster card.
Speaker 3: Half of the time, I don't remember that I'm married
Speaker 3: unless I my Blockbuster card.
Speaker 2: Okay, even Susan knows.
Speaker 1: That your memory for the It's great.
Speaker 4: A lot of debates, you know, when we're around the table,
Speaker 4: doesice matter?
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, That's what the conversation is about. I'm helping.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to help you streamline.
Speaker 4: I had a friend when I was like eighteen, take
Speaker 4: my wallet and just start throwing everything away, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, it ended up being very because I don't even
Speaker 2: care anymore. That's no Soper.
Speaker 1: Has on the back of his phone. Writer has a
Speaker 1: thing where you can slip a few cards in your idea,
Speaker 1: and that's all that writer.
Speaker 2: Takes with him. That's always got.
Speaker 3: Whereas I, you know, if I'm at an Orlando area
Speaker 3: Exon station and I want my free Save the Tiger poster,
Speaker 3: he's got. That's a direct quote from Seinfeld. By the way,
Speaker 3: and George's wallet, no.
Speaker 2: So Rider bought me three sizes of wallet.
Speaker 3: I've got the Ultra slim where you can fit about
Speaker 3: twenty five cents and maybe one card, the next one
Speaker 3: where you can fit three point fifty and maybe four cards,
Speaker 3: and then a big bulk wallet that's an actual human
Speaker 3: sized wallet where I can fit in all the.
Speaker 2: Stuff I'm going to need.
Speaker 4: It's I was going to get him like a sleek,
Speaker 4: thin wallet, but then I was like this, you know,
Speaker 4: am I really going to convert him? So ill for
Speaker 4: that as an option, and then I'll give him some
Speaker 4: more options, progressively.
Speaker 2: Getting bigger until he has like the giant wallet. If
Speaker 2: that's what I did.
Speaker 3: So I got my I got three versions of wallet,
Speaker 3: which is phenomenal because I'm going to put them all
Speaker 3: together and make one big wallet that I can then
Speaker 3: carry in my back pocket.
Speaker 2: Danielle, what ad writer give you?
Speaker 1: Well, I have mine right here that I'd like to
Speaker 1: show everybody. Writer got me a Jordan one candle, so
Speaker 1: anyone who knows me knows that I'm a big sneaker
Speaker 1: head and the Jordan one silhouette up until very recently
Speaker 1: was my absolute all star favorite. It's still way up
Speaker 1: there for me, but the Jordan fours have actually taken
Speaker 1: over the silhouette as being my favorite. But look at
Speaker 1: the beautiful detail. It's amazing this shoe, it's phenomenal. It's
Speaker 1: by davy Oachho and it was hand poured in Venice, California.
Speaker 1: It's made with beeswax and soy. You can see them
Speaker 1: at davy Ocho Candleco or davy Ocho da v I
Speaker 1: e oho dot com. And it's this incredible, it's this
Speaker 1: incredible candle.
Speaker 3: Can we alre talk about why it's how amazing it
Speaker 3: is that it's still this detailed For a very specific reason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I left it in my car.
Speaker 1: For how long this temple? Since Christmas?
Speaker 2: No January. We were meeting up in January.
Speaker 1: Oh, big difference December twenty fifth to January. Thank you
Speaker 1: for correcting me on that. I'm so happy you explained it.
Speaker 1: It's only since January, not since December twenty.
Speaker 3: Fifth, January, February, March, April, four months in the back
Speaker 3: of a car.
Speaker 2: Didn't melt.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 1: One of the other amazing things about davy Ocho candles
Speaker 1: is that they apparently the hot cars, they last forever.
Speaker 1: They or they're very well packaged. But anyway, we talked
Speaker 1: about whether or not I would ever actually light it.
Speaker 1: The thing I think that would make it very cool
Speaker 1: is that the wick is at the part where you
Speaker 1: put your foot in. So I think the wick would
Speaker 1: I think it would just burn straight down and I
Speaker 1: would still have the perfect silhouette of the shoe. And
Speaker 1: I think maybe it would just light from inside once
Speaker 1: the wick got down, and I think it would actually
Speaker 1: look very cool.
Speaker 2: But it melt down, it melts down in the middle.
Speaker 2: Does it become an actual sneaker? Can you wear it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: What like if you get a pair of them? Can
Speaker 2: you just slosh around in your way? Is Danielle's size
Speaker 2: it is?
Speaker 1: We held my foot up to it. It does look
Speaker 1: like my size, maybe half a size too small. This
Speaker 1: might be a size six and I am a six
Speaker 1: and a half, but my foot it did kind of perfect.
Speaker 1: Look at my foot. Yeah, we'd have to see. But anyway,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for being so concerned. We have officially
Speaker 1: exchanged gifts and yeah, so we love you all. Thank
Speaker 1: you for your concern. We will try to exchange gifts
Speaker 1: this upcoming Christmas, which is only about seven months away.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should do.
Speaker 1: It ahead of time. Maybe we should get together.
Speaker 2: I got books for Adler and Keaton too.
Speaker 1: Do you guys open, Oh we did, and we love
Speaker 1: mister Tiger Goes Wild. Wow, and ten minutes till Bedtime.
Speaker 4: Ten minutes of bad times, the gift that keeps giving.
Speaker 4: Every time you read it, you find new details. It's
Speaker 4: so fun, it's so cute.
Speaker 1: My kids absolutely loved them. I love mister Tiger Goes Wild.
Speaker 1: My kids. Can I complain about my kids for a second, please?
Speaker 1: They they don't like hardbacks with the paper on them.
Speaker 1: Adler literally goes, oh, get this paper off of here,
Speaker 1: and he insists on throwing away.
Speaker 2: Oh the dust cover.
Speaker 5: They I know what you meant.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, no, I get that they're annoying.
Speaker 1: I do kind of you can't stand it, And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: but I first of all, mister Tiger, unlike a lot
Speaker 1: of like a lot of hardcovers, have the same print
Speaker 1: on the hardcover, so even without it, you can read this,
Speaker 1: you know, siding and whatever mister Tiger does not it's
Speaker 1: just striped. And he insisted on throwing it away. And then,
Speaker 1: of course, whatever Adler does, Keaton needs to do immediately after.
Speaker 1: So he decided ten minutes till Bedtime had to be
Speaker 1: ripped up. But they love the books.
Speaker 3: So that's a collector of anything that hurts my heart. Yeah,
Speaker 3: taking off the US Jackie.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I did not get Indie books. I got him
Speaker 1: keeping with Indy's very cool dressing. Unfortunately he was too
Speaker 1: big for the pants I got him, but I got
Speaker 1: him an outfit in his He dresses like a nineteen
Speaker 1: what would you say, nineteen thirties? Yeah, like a newsboy,
Speaker 1: like a newsboy, so cute an actually Indians exactly.
Speaker 2: But then you also recently got him. I don't know
Speaker 2: if this counts. Is christ Ohio shirt that was amazing?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It says things to do in Ohio one leave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he loved it, love it.
Speaker 5: He's wearing it today.
Speaker 3: We were hanging out all of us not too long ago,
Speaker 3: and Indy was trying to explain to me the entire
Speaker 3: language of Ohio, which is a completely different thing.
Speaker 2: So he was teaching me different phrases.
Speaker 3: In Ohio, songs in Ohio, the handshakes, there's everything, So
Speaker 3: it is an entire song U Alpha City, skimm yes,
Speaker 3: skimmey toilet.
Speaker 2: By the way, I left Adler and Heaton walkie talkies.
Speaker 2: I'm curious if those ever got used.
Speaker 1: Yes, I forgot. I hid them.
Speaker 3: I love getting loud things that are annoying, so I
Speaker 3: was going to get a drum set. So you're lucky
Speaker 3: I got them.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 1: You loved the drum?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: So I hid them because we in the past had
Speaker 1: had walkie talkies when they were a little younger, and
Speaker 1: Keaton could not figure out that he had to hold
Speaker 1: it down only while talking. The walkie talkie for Keaton
Speaker 1: was still difficult. Adler had figured it out, but then
Speaker 1: they would get very frustrated, and Adler would be mad
Speaker 1: at Keaton and it caused fights. Yeah, so I saw it,
Speaker 1: and I thought, we're close. We're very close to Keaton
Speaker 1: being able to figure that out. We're maybe only like
Speaker 1: four months away. So I have them hidden off to
Speaker 1: the side. For the I usually bring out. This is
Speaker 1: what I do in general with Christmas gifts for my kids.
Speaker 1: They get too many things because we have too many
Speaker 1: people who love them and want to buy them things,
Speaker 1: and despite my insistence that everybody only buy them one thing,
Speaker 1: our grandparents go nuts and we end up with too
Speaker 1: many things. So I take half of the gifts, store
Speaker 1: them away in a closet, and then halfway through the year,
Speaker 1: when it's time to take away the smart switch out,
Speaker 1: get out some of the gifts there they've become bored
Speaker 1: of and bring out a whole new set of gifts.
Speaker 1: So they're in the running for that. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, and they will. They will enjoy
Speaker 1: it for sure. So I'm happy to give you guys
Speaker 1: that update now only only end of April to exchange.
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Speaker 1: ninety seven and you've seen movies like Air Force One,
Speaker 1: La Confidential, The Fifth Element, and Titanic in a theater
Speaker 1: and you don't think it can get any better.
Speaker 2: It's a blockbuster year.
Speaker 1: But it's a Friday night and you've just played your
Speaker 1: friends in what has to be one hundred rounds of GoldenEye,
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Speaker 1: in Ace Ventura, an even cable guy, which people seemed
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Speaker 1: remember it for the next twenty five years. It's hilarious,
Speaker 1: one of the better comedies of the decade, and not
Speaker 1: just because of Jim Carrey, but because of the adorable
Speaker 1: little boy who played his son. The bowl cut, the claw,
Speaker 1: the sadness when he heard the truth, but the heartwarming
Speaker 1: ending where the family came back together. It was a
Speaker 1: perfect movie to get Jim Carrey back atop the box office,
Speaker 1: and today's guest was a major part of that success.
Speaker 1: We know that kid is Eric's potential step son in
Speaker 1: Uncle Daddy, just as cute and just as scene stealing
Speaker 1: as he'd be that same year in Liar Liar. As
Speaker 1: a kid, you'd also see him on Full House, Er
Speaker 1: General Hospital, and as Dennis the Menace in Dennis the
Speaker 1: Menace Strikes Again. He since retired from acting and found
Speaker 1: himself succeeding in the world of sports radio. But today
Speaker 1: we're going to hone in on that one time he
Speaker 1: almost did the unthinkable and made a dad at a
Speaker 1: will please welcome.
Speaker 2: To Podmeats World.
Speaker 1: Someone we are very excited to catch up with, Justin Cooper.
Speaker 2: Justin, how's it going good?
Speaker 5: What's happening?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's so good to see you too.
Speaker 2: It's been a few weeks, I know, just a little while.
Speaker 1: So first we know that your job is now producing
Speaker 1: sports radio, so I wanted to make you feel right
Speaker 1: at home. So my first question is, can Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: actually help the Jets next season?
Speaker 2: I have no idea what's happening, what sport is that.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what sports is.
Speaker 3: He doesn't have If he doesn't get hurt in the
Speaker 3: first game, I mean, come on, if that knees better,
Speaker 3: the acl is better, I think he's got a shot
Speaker 3: that Justin think.
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, I mean he's definitely going to help the Jets.
Speaker 5: He's better than what they've had. But I'm a Broncos
Speaker 5: fan and we just got their old quarterback yesterday, so
Speaker 5: I'm not too happy.
Speaker 2: About That's too thrilled?
Speaker 1: All right, So now that you're comfortable and writer is
Speaker 1: completely out of his element, let's get into acting. You
Speaker 1: started much younger than we did. You were five years old, right,
Speaker 1: how did that happen? How were you brought into the business?
Speaker 5: I think I don't know. I was a very personable
Speaker 5: little kid, and so my mom just, I don't know,
Speaker 5: took me to take headshots and then sent those out
Speaker 5: to agents and then got one and then went from there. Wow.
Speaker 1: So you didn't have any like connections. It was really just, hey,
Speaker 1: we've got a cute kid with a great personality. Maybe
Speaker 1: he should be in entertainment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3: Were you did you grow up on the West Coast?
Speaker 3: Were you in Los Angeles at the time or okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Did people used to stop you guys in the street
Speaker 1: and ask like you should get it? Tell it, like,
Speaker 1: tell your mom you should get him into the TV business.
Speaker 5: Yeah, stuff like that happened. Like I'd be waiting in
Speaker 5: line at like Disneyland for a ride and I'd be,
Speaker 5: you know, hamming it up, and people would just be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: you should you know, you should start him in acting
Speaker 5: or something, and yeah, that's how it happened. Wow.
Speaker 4: Did you go right into on camera work or did
Speaker 4: you ever do theater or acting classes or was it
Speaker 4: just right into the deep end.
Speaker 5: That's funny. So I've been thinking about this, because you know,
Speaker 5: I've you know, started I started rewatching Boy Meets World
Speaker 5: with my wife, who's a little bit younger than I am,
Speaker 5: and then started listening to you guys' podcast, and I know, writer,
Speaker 5: you did a lot of theater, and I remember thinking like, man,
Speaker 5: I hated theater.
Speaker 2: Will the same way?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did it like one time, and I was like,
Speaker 5: you know what I like being able to do multiple
Speaker 5: takes right.
Speaker 2: In the same way of exactly the same way.
Speaker 3: So what I mean when you started, the route that
Speaker 3: a lot of especially young actors take if you're not
Speaker 3: going to go theater is commercials. Yeah, so were you
Speaker 3: Do you remember kind of being on the commercial circuit
Speaker 3: back in the day?
Speaker 5: Oh for sure. My first job was a Domino's pizza commercial. Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: and then did a bunch of commercials before landing you know,
Speaker 5: anything major.
Speaker 1: So after the Domino's commercial, you said you did a
Speaker 1: few commercials. Was your first TV show full House?
Speaker 5: I believe?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, made the rounds of the ninety shows?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did Full House er and then your first
Speaker 1: series regular was on a show called The Boys Are Back. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: So what do you remember about that show.
Speaker 4: That's what I was going to do you remember any
Speaker 4: of this? Do you remember being on Full House?
Speaker 5: I do not remember being on Full House. I do
Speaker 5: remember The Boys Are Back though Kelsey mulrooney was a
Speaker 5: coaster on there Rest in Peace, but she was like
Speaker 5: my first girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Then.
Speaker 5: I don't know, like five thigs.
Speaker 2: Okay, still so young.
Speaker 1: You booked all of these like within your first couple
Speaker 1: of years of being yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What did your parents think of all of this and
Speaker 1: the success that you had right off the bat?
Speaker 5: You know, I think my I remember, if I'm thinking back,
Speaker 5: like my dad was sort of like, oh, that's cool,
Speaker 5: you know, like kind of like indifferent about it. But
Speaker 5: my mom was very much you know, the like she
Speaker 5: was into it, like her kind of I think her
Speaker 5: dream was to be in you know, show business, and
Speaker 5: so then you know, I was doing it and was
Speaker 5: getting successful at it. So I think she was very excited,
Speaker 5: but you know she was she was a great studio mom.
Speaker 1: What did your parents do for a living.
Speaker 5: Well, it's so my mom at the time, I guess
Speaker 5: before she had me, she worked at Laura mar and
Speaker 5: that's where she met my dad, and my dad ended
Speaker 5: up working at the grounds department at Paramount Pictures and
Speaker 5: he just retired last year.
Speaker 2: So wait, he worked at the grounds department at Paramount
Speaker 2: Pictures for what like forty years?
Speaker 5: The yeah, thirty something years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So do you remember anything about trying to memorize your
Speaker 1: lines as a kid. Did it come very easily to
Speaker 1: you as it does to most kids. What do you
Speaker 1: remember about memorizing your lines?
Speaker 5: It did, and I do remember like it was kind
Speaker 5: of annoying to some of my co stars sometimes because
Speaker 5: I would just I remember my lines, I remember their lines,
Speaker 5: and then you know, they'd be like pausing and then
Speaker 5: I'd say their line and they're like, oh.
Speaker 1: You know, that's good.
Speaker 2: Kid's memories. Kids actors are like that. You somehow absorb
Speaker 2: everybody's lines around you. I plastic, it's just fun. You'll
Speaker 2: get everything in at that point. And so I remember
Speaker 2: the same thing.
Speaker 3: You're eight or nine on a set, ten years old
Speaker 3: in the set and it's like, I know everybody's line.
Speaker 3: I wonder, now if we all tried to memorize lines,
Speaker 3: which you know, it's a muscle. It's one that if
Speaker 3: you haven't used in a while. I haven't had to
Speaker 3: memorize dialogue in twenty years, fifteen years. I wonder if
Speaker 3: we could all snap right back into it again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good question.
Speaker 2: I know track as a director.
Speaker 1: I I I know everybody's lines and yeah, ok, because
Speaker 1: for me, it's all linked to camera shots or or
Speaker 1: blocking moves that I want to remember, and so I'll
Speaker 1: be like, that's not your line. This is your line,
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to cross on it. So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I've just never stopped using it than as
Speaker 1: a director. So, okay, after you did The Boys Are Back,
Speaker 1: you found yourself in a very familiar spot for kid actors,
Speaker 1: which is on a soap opera. Right you were you
Speaker 1: were recurring on General Hospital.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, very much so, And did you enjoy it?
Speaker 5: I did?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 5: I enjoyed it a lot. I became close with a
Speaker 5: couple people on that show. Jackie Zeeman, who played my mom. Yeah,
Speaker 5: she had a couple of daughters that were close to
Speaker 5: my age, so we would always go up to her
Speaker 5: house for birthday parties.
Speaker 2: And oh that's fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all very close.
Speaker 1: Well that's really cool. I guess Yeah. I had never
Speaker 1: really thought about that. That if you're a mom on
Speaker 1: a show with young kids the same age as the
Speaker 1: kids you're working with, how fun that is to then
Speaker 1: invite those kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So wait, by this point, you you've done all
Speaker 3: these shows. How old are you by? By say General Hospital?
Speaker 5: I think that's kind of right around six or seven.
Speaker 1: I mean literally everything we've mentioned he did between like
Speaker 1: five and six years old.
Speaker 2: I'm saying you're only seven years old.
Speaker 1: You are a series regular on The Boys Er Back,
Speaker 1: and then a recurring on General Hospital, and then we
Speaker 1: get to boy Meets World. Yes, so we just recapped
Speaker 1: your episode this week, and I know we asked you
Speaker 1: to watch it. When was the last time you had
Speaker 1: seen it? And what were your thoughts watching it today?
Speaker 5: Okay, so I've seen it now like probably three times
Speaker 5: in the last like three months. Just because that's kind
Speaker 5: of how this all started.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, my then fiance now wife, we were just
Speaker 5: looking for something to watch, you know, opened up Disney
Speaker 5: Plus and hey, and I asked her. I was like,
Speaker 5: you know, I was on an episode of Boyman's World.
Speaker 5: He's like, no, so okay, let's watch that. So we
Speaker 5: watched my episode and then we're like, let's watch the
Speaker 5: whole series.
Speaker 2: So fun.
Speaker 1: And congratulations on your wedding. When did you get married?
Speaker 5: February twenty ninth.
Speaker 1: Oh, congratulations.
Speaker 3: Isn't that leapier day? Do you not only have to
Speaker 3: celebrate your wedding anniversary every four years?
Speaker 2: It's kind of brilliant, brilliant.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. Plus it was a weekday, so
Speaker 5: it was a lot cheaper, right, that's great.
Speaker 1: So when you watched it then with your wife and
Speaker 1: now recently for our recap, what were your feelings watching it?
Speaker 1: What did you think seeing young you?
Speaker 5: Oh, it's so interesting because with Boyant's World, I have
Speaker 5: so many like core memories with with doing that shoot. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so there's a number of different things that was, you know,
Speaker 5: that would play actually like a big part in my
Speaker 5: life later on. So and rewatching it, rewatching it last night,
Speaker 5: I realized that I remember a lot more kind of
Speaker 5: like off the set, like not. I remember not as
Speaker 5: much on camera doing the scenes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, BTS you remember all the BTS stuff?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, so you know, for example, a couple of
Speaker 5: things like the studio teacher I think it was I
Speaker 5: think it was Wesley. I remember the Madagascar cockroaches.
Speaker 2: And cockroaches forget those.
Speaker 5: I also remember so I had already at this point,
Speaker 5: I had already filmed Liar, Liar, but it hadn't come
Speaker 5: out out yet, right, okay, And I remember him telling me,
Speaker 5: he was like, you know, you're gonna need an autograph
Speaker 5: because this is going to be big. And so he
Speaker 5: actually helped me design my autograph that I yes, that's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: cut is that?
Speaker 3: And is it?
Speaker 1: Is it the autograph you would still use today or
Speaker 1: did your signature change over time?
Speaker 2: So cool, that's great. The importance of a teacher.
Speaker 5: You know, they're going to change your life exactly. So
Speaker 5: that was pretty awesome. You will. I thought you were
Speaker 5: like the coolest person in the world.
Speaker 1: Everyone did.
Speaker 5: We got along.
Speaker 2: I just remember we got along very very well. We
Speaker 2: had a lot of fun that week.
Speaker 5: Yeah. One one like a core memory that I remember
Speaker 5: it was you were amazing at throwing jelly beans as
Speaker 5: high as possible and catching them in your mouth. Yes,
Speaker 5: he would like it would scrape the top of the
Speaker 5: sound stick was catwalk And I was like yes. And
Speaker 5: so for like the rest of my life, I tried
Speaker 5: becoming like great at that and I think I'm I
Speaker 5: think I'm pretty good.
Speaker 1: Wow, it actually is something you could do, like you
Speaker 1: just worked on it and you still to this day.
Speaker 2: I bet. Oh wow, that's cool. So be and Wesley.
Speaker 2: Wesley teaching you something actually important like a good signature,
Speaker 2: and I'm teaching you how to throw things high in
Speaker 2: the air and choking.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I can.
Speaker 1: Tell you know what.
Speaker 2: It really shows on the show as well.
Speaker 1: It really comes through the two of you had And
Speaker 1: it's not surprising because even though Will is not a
Speaker 1: father and didn't want to be a father, he is
Speaker 1: so good with kids and and so it's it's no surprise.
Speaker 3: Kids are amazing when I can give them back to
Speaker 3: their parents totally. Yeah, which it's just I knew was
Speaker 3: for me. I mean it's just the But no, I
Speaker 3: remember you and I right away kind of getting along
Speaker 3: very well and joking around with each other, and we
Speaker 3: worked on kind of the the wrestling thing where the
Speaker 3: flying where you jumped into my arm like all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I just remember we had a good time. It was
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: And I think that episode alone, because of how they
Speaker 3: saw that you and I got along, that led right
Speaker 3: to Tommy, which is we did later in the in
Speaker 3: the series where Eric almost adopts another little boy. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think they saw how you and I worked well
Speaker 3: together and that changed, you know, changed part of the show.
Speaker 5: So it was it mattered well, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 5: I think that they were even I remember my mom
Speaker 5: telling me about this way back then. But they were
Speaker 5: talking about a spin off with you and you know,
Speaker 5: potentially you know, uh, the character that played my mom,
Speaker 5: and I know it never really uh you know, manifested
Speaker 5: into anything.
Speaker 6: But it makes several times we've heard of different possible
Speaker 6: they were really trying to spin Eric off, and there
Speaker 6: was a bunch of different versions of that.
Speaker 2: That's the third different version I've heard of a possibility,
Speaker 2: and it does it makes sense to me. Eric brand show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she was phenomenal, the older woman. I mean, you could
Speaker 2: you could have easily done that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well do you remember did you know that Justin
Speaker 1: had had worked with Jim Carrey at the time.
Speaker 2: That he was on the show.
Speaker 3: Yes, of course, because he we we talked about it,
Speaker 3: and he talked about how you know, he's telling me
Speaker 3: what the what the movie was going to be, and
Speaker 3: I was, you know, such a a fan of Jim Carrey,
Speaker 3: because he had you know, Ace Ventura had come out,
Speaker 3: which was such a throwback to like the Jerry Lewis
Speaker 3: kind of wacky comedies which were I'm a big fan of,
Speaker 3: and then Cable Guy, which people didn't like but I
Speaker 3: really enjoyed. I thought was an incredible Uh just kind
Speaker 3: of look at that social more at the time, and
Speaker 3: so to hear, you know, it was kind of I
Speaker 3: was geeking out where with Justin where I was like.
Speaker 2: So, what was it like working with Jim Carrey And
Speaker 2: we we talked about it. He was like, he's great.
Speaker 2: We had so much fun.
Speaker 3: And I was also a huge uh news radio fan
Speaker 3: and was more a tyranny played your mom in in
Speaker 3: Liar Liar, So I was asking about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I was just you know, absorbing all that as
Speaker 3: I could. And you know, especially with you know, you
Speaker 3: were what five or six when we did the show,
Speaker 3: so you're in school most of the time, so we
Speaker 3: were kind of grabbing conversations as we could around the
Speaker 3: craft service table or while we were rehearsing and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. But No, I distinctly remember that week of
Speaker 3: just being like, kid's great.
Speaker 2: You know, we had a ton of fun.
Speaker 3: You know they always say, don't work with little kids
Speaker 3: or animals, but I've been blessed with that where it's both.
Speaker 3: Both times i've been worked with little kids, where I
Speaker 3: worked with animals, I've had a great time.
Speaker 1: And I just I do.
Speaker 2: I distinctly remember us really getting along that week.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I remember watching the episode last night. There was
Speaker 5: even a line about going and seeing a Jim Carrey movie.
Speaker 2: M yeah, and I was like, I wonder, I'm sure
Speaker 2: they put it. Our writers are famous for that. I'm
Speaker 2: sure they put it in. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I was. I was surprised that I'm only in I think,
Speaker 1: like one scene with you, because I have such great
Speaker 1: memories of working with you. And in my head, I
Speaker 1: was like, how am I going to play into the storyline?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I don't really late, but
Speaker 1: I just must have been myself into every conversation.
Speaker 2: You would have been in school with him school, That's true.
Speaker 1: We would have been near each other in school, even
Speaker 1: if we weren't in the exact same room. We would
Speaker 1: have been in school together. And I also two rooms
Speaker 1: at k A.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, this is Kat Taylor right season four,
Speaker 3: We're still at KTLA Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we got we got close because I mean
Speaker 5: I think you know, there was a there was a
Speaker 5: time after the filming. I think we went with your
Speaker 5: mom to some event. She drove us and we met
Speaker 5: what's uh, I'm blanking on the actress and named Danica mckeller. Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: we went to some charity event together. Yeah. And then
Speaker 5: of course after Boy Meets World, I got Brothers Keeper,
Speaker 5: which was also on t G i F. Yes, and
Speaker 5: then so we saw each other at all that.
Speaker 2: The fun Yeah, random big party events.
Speaker 5: Right yeah, camire event where and Sync played and then
Speaker 5: you know that's that.
Speaker 3: That was where we did the live t G I
Speaker 3: F thing where and Sync kept having to sing tearing
Speaker 3: up my Heart And by the third time they walked out,
Speaker 3: they went here's our song, sorry.
Speaker 2: And sang it again.
Speaker 4: That was where Danielle met them, right, I mean I
Speaker 4: wasn't there that I couldn't be there.
Speaker 2: I remember, oh really to someone up north, I remember
Speaker 2: they we did it live.
Speaker 3: A lot of the stuff was doing We're doing it live,
Speaker 3: And the thing I remember most about that night was
Speaker 3: it starts with a big sweeping like crane shot to
Speaker 3: come on me and I intro the night, and I
Speaker 3: wanted to wait till the cameras settled, and they obviously
Speaker 3: wanted me to start earlier, and the stage manager as
Speaker 3: the camera swinger, was just going like freaking out the
Speaker 3: whole time. So I was like, I'm gonna let the
Speaker 3: camera land and then I'll speak.
Speaker 2: But it was just like this. It was so still
Speaker 2: never forget that in my life.
Speaker 5: But that's right.
Speaker 2: We would always see each other at the t g
Speaker 2: IF stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and then then you know, I became buddies
Speaker 5: with Chris Kirkpatrick and then you know, he would invite
Speaker 5: me anytime I sync was in LA to hang out
Speaker 5: backstage and then so I would see Danielle backstage, and yeah,
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 1: It was so fun.
Speaker 2: I love it so much.
Speaker 1: So do you remember the audition for a Liar or Liar?
Speaker 1: And did it feel just like any other movie audition
Speaker 1: to you?
Speaker 6: Or did it?
Speaker 2: Did you know it was special?
Speaker 5: You know, that's interesting that nobody's asked me that before.
Speaker 5: And I'm trying to think right now, and I I
Speaker 5: don't remember the audition at all, Like I remember so
Speaker 5: much vividly filming it, but uh, the audition, I can't
Speaker 5: really think of it. I can I remember the exact
Speaker 5: moment when we got the call that I booked it.
Speaker 1: Tell me about it.
Speaker 5: I think we were we were picking up my sisters
Speaker 5: from swimming lessons, okay, and uh I was in a Nope,
Speaker 5: I was wrong, that's wrong. I was in a kinkos.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah. And I just remember, you know, because I knew,
Speaker 5: you know, obviously, I knew who Jim Carrey was. I'd
Speaker 5: never seen Cable Guy because it was not allowed to
Speaker 5: see that, sure, but I was a big fan of
Speaker 5: the mask.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course, perfect for you.
Speaker 1: Did you do a chemistry test with Jim?
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 5: I went to his house and met him there, and
Speaker 5: it worked well because I had heard that he had had, like,
Speaker 5: you know, previous issues with child actors, and so it
Speaker 5: was very important that we meet and do that chemistry test.
Speaker 5: And you know, everything went well. But I remember that
Speaker 5: vividly too. Go into his house because I walked in
Speaker 5: and he's got the Riddler costume in a frame on
Speaker 5: his wall, and I was like, that is awesome. And
Speaker 5: I remember he goes to he says, he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: I've got the Batmobile in my backyard. You want to
Speaker 5: go see it and I was like, yeah, I do.
Speaker 5: And we go back there and it's like one of
Speaker 5: those Kmart twenty five cents like batmobile.
Speaker 2: Yes, just worth the joke, let me carry. I bought
Speaker 2: that just for the case.
Speaker 5: Over.
Speaker 1: So you are at Kinko's, you get the phone call,
Speaker 1: You've already done the chemistry test and what's the what's
Speaker 1: the phone call?
Speaker 2: What do you think? How do you feel when you
Speaker 2: get that news? You know, I just I was.
Speaker 5: I was excited to do it, but it was you know,
Speaker 5: I didn't really grasp the magnitude of it back then. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I don't think, you know, even after completing filming,
Speaker 5: I still didn't grasp it. Like like when Wesley told me, oh,
Speaker 5: you're gonna need like an autograph, and I was like, okay, sure,
Speaker 5: I'm going to need an autograph. Did I really need
Speaker 5: an autograph?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: I think also one of the reasons why it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have hit you is because you had been consistently booking Yeah,
Speaker 1: so many things. I mean, you had only been acting
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, and I mean, to me,
Speaker 1: reading the resume feels like almost every audition you went
Speaker 1: in for they were like yeah, of course this is
Speaker 1: the kid we want yep. And with the exception of
Speaker 1: then of course liar liar really changing your life. You
Speaker 1: probably didn't feel like you needed an autograph before that
Speaker 1: came out. So when you get the news, you're just like,
Speaker 1: great a movie with a fun guy. That was the
Speaker 1: Batmoviet job.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly where did you film Universal? Oh? Really?
Speaker 2: Oh man?
Speaker 3: So you're on the Universal lot the whole time doing
Speaker 3: this movie with Jim Carrey for the most part. Did
Speaker 3: you get now were you one of those one of
Speaker 3: the kids that I hear about with I was so
Speaker 3: jealous of that would shoot on these big lots that
Speaker 3: was like, okay, well you've got forty five and it's
Speaker 3: you know, I've got a forty five minute break run
Speaker 3: ride go ride.
Speaker 5: Jurassic Park and then and then hair and makeup would
Speaker 5: get really upset because I'd be like be wet from the.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's like the dream when you are a young
Speaker 3: actors getting to have Disney World or Universal or one
Speaker 3: of these shoot.
Speaker 4: It must have it must have been a long shoot, right,
Speaker 4: I mean you must have been working hard because that's
Speaker 4: a big movie. That's a big budget movie with a
Speaker 4: lot of scenes and you're in so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think it was three months, right, Yeah, well.
Speaker 3: You are in a lot of that movie. I rewatched
Speaker 3: it not too long ago. I did a Jim Carrey
Speaker 3: than not too long ago, and you are in an awful.
Speaker 2: Lot of that film.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a good time.
Speaker 2: Were you going to regular school at the time.
Speaker 5: Yes, I was in private school up until high school,
Speaker 5: and so they were really good about, you know, giving
Speaker 5: me course.
Speaker 1: We're rings taking it with you.
Speaker 3: So you LA high schools have to be so used
Speaker 3: to that, whereas my high school in Connecticut was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do. LA high schools like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I go talk to doctor Jim. He takes care of
Speaker 3: all the actor kids who've got to work around their schedule.
Speaker 5: Such.
Speaker 2: It's such a different world when you grow up in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles or New York.
Speaker 1: I think Liar Liar is absolutely one of my favorite comedies,
Speaker 1: and I have to assume it was just as fun
Speaker 1: to shoot. What was it like playing Jim Carrey's son
Speaker 1: in a movie where he's free to just be as
Speaker 1: funny as he could possibly be.
Speaker 5: Oh, it was. It was awesome and I think It's
Speaker 5: funny because I think more people understand now because this
Speaker 5: is he's been in the you know, public eye for
Speaker 5: so long. But back then, like one of the main
Speaker 5: questions that I got all the time was like, oh,
Speaker 5: is he is he really like that like off camera,
Speaker 5: and he is like, it's just that's him all the time.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you know this little tid there,
Speaker 5: it's gone like viral a couple of times online. But
Speaker 5: there's a scene where after he tries to like chase
Speaker 5: me and the mom in the airport and he gets
Speaker 5: flung from the thing. We have like an emotional scene
Speaker 5: that we're doing together. But in the meanwhile he's he's
Speaker 5: also in the background as fireman fireman Bill, Yeah, fire
Speaker 5: Marshall Bill. Yeah. So he's he's like hamming it up
Speaker 5: in the background. Meanwhile we're doing like serious scene. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: you'll have to. You have to check it out. You can.
Speaker 5: You can see him back there doing his like faces.
Speaker 5: And that was none of that was like, that was
Speaker 5: all his idea. It wasn't like anybody like part of
Speaker 5: the script or anything like that. You just you know,
Speaker 5: acting like a goofball the time.
Speaker 3: And then of course they became legendary again too. Then
Speaker 3: he's one of those lyre liars, one of those movies
Speaker 3: that made the outtakes and spoofs at the end so
Speaker 3: enjoyable again because they tacked it onto the end of
Speaker 3: the movie, and then people would just constantly want to
Speaker 3: sit there and wait to watch that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: The way that you know, boy Me's World, when we
Speaker 3: had the spoofs at the end, or when Eric's trapped
Speaker 3: in the couch, it just it lets you in on
Speaker 3: the joke in such a way, which the.
Speaker 2: Most brilliant life did it.
Speaker 4: The Star film did it with auts and showed the
Speaker 4: crew as all bugs with so brilliant, so brilliant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so then the movie comes out, it's a
Speaker 1: massive success, and you instantly become extremely recognizable. Did your
Speaker 1: life basically change overnight?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was pretty It was pretty crazy. I
Speaker 5: remember because my you know, I was out of private school,
Speaker 5: so it was very small, Like my entire class had
Speaker 5: like you know, fifteen kids in it. Yeah, and we
Speaker 5: the whole school pretty much went to go see the movie, like,
Speaker 5: you know, the day that it was released. And that
Speaker 5: was fun. But then after that it got it got
Speaker 5: pretty crazy for a little bit, like I would just
Speaker 5: be you know, at my local hometown buffet here where
Speaker 5: I live, delicious eating eating dinner with my family, and
Speaker 5: a line of people really be at my table, like
Speaker 5: you know, asking for whether it be a picture or
Speaker 5: an autograph, and right that happened. You know, a lot
Speaker 5: of like you know, a lot of places that I went, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Was it all positive or did did it ever drive
Speaker 4: you crazy in a negative sense?
Speaker 5: I think for the most part I enjoyed it. You know,
Speaker 5: there was maybe times where and my mom was always
Speaker 5: really good at noticing when I was kind of just
Speaker 5: kind of getting you yeah, yeah, wanted to just you know,
Speaker 5: keep eating my meal or whatever, and then you know,
Speaker 5: she would be like, Okay, you know, like that's you know,
Speaker 5: that's that's enough for today. But for the most part,
Speaker 5: I thought it was really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you do you what does it feel like
Speaker 1: watching the movie now?
Speaker 5: I haven't watched the movie in a long time. I mean,
Speaker 5: I just I think it's I think it's a great movie.
Speaker 5: So I just I like, I like watching it. And
Speaker 5: I think I was very lucky at the time, because
Speaker 5: you know, there's things that I watch that I've been
Speaker 5: in that I'm like, okay, like this.
Speaker 2: This is all right, you know, yeah, that's that's a job.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, but it's you know, it's very rewatchable because
Speaker 5: I to this day I think it's you know, one
Speaker 5: of his one of his top movies. Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So after Liar Liar, you then book a show that
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Brothers Keeper, which you are one of the
Speaker 1: stars of, and then you also appeared on Touch by
Speaker 1: an Angel all about all about Us, the practice and
Speaker 1: a few other things. But then you decided to walk
Speaker 1: away from acting around two thousand and three at fourteen
Speaker 1: years old. What led to that decision?
Speaker 5: So I started high school in two thousand and two,
Speaker 5: and that was my first time going to a public school. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and that was a little overwhelming, I think going to
Speaker 5: private school. Like, so, first when I when I got
Speaker 5: Liar Liar, right, I was at the private school that
Speaker 5: I had been at the same school since pre school
Speaker 5: and so and it was a lot of the same
Speaker 5: kids that entire time, so they already knew me. When
Speaker 5: I got the job. It wasn't really like, you know,
Speaker 5: oh that different. And then even when I got to
Speaker 5: middle school, I went to a Catholic middle school, and
Speaker 5: it was very it was very easy. But then high
Speaker 5: school came and then that's like my first experience of
Speaker 5: like bullying because of that, and so it was a
Speaker 5: lot of like, oh, his kid, you know, thinks he's
Speaker 5: better than us because he was in a movie. Even
Speaker 5: though it was I don't say anything. I was one
Speaker 5: of those people at this time of my life where
Speaker 5: I did not want to broadcast it. I was very
Speaker 5: much like, I'm not going to tell people about it.
Speaker 5: If somebody asks, sure, I'll like, you know, I'll respond,
Speaker 5: but I'm not going to like put it out there.
Speaker 5: And yet still it was a thing in high school
Speaker 5: where it was like, oh, you know, you think you're
Speaker 5: better than us. So there was a lot of that.
Speaker 5: And then plus my mom would pick me up from
Speaker 5: school and be like, oh, you've got an audition today,
Speaker 5: and I was you know, it started to get to
Speaker 5: the point where I was like, I just kind of
Speaker 5: want to like go home and chat on aim. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And so you know, it was always my mom was
Speaker 5: always like, you know, when it starts to not be
Speaker 5: fun anymore, you know, then we'll stop doing it. And
Speaker 5: I remember when that started happening, she'd be like, oh,
Speaker 5: do you want to stop, and I I was almost
Speaker 5: like scared to say.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, yeah, so much pressure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because she would almost be like when she told
Speaker 5: me I had an audition, and I would kind of
Speaker 5: get grumpy about it. It was I could see like
Speaker 5: the annoyance that like that she had. Yeah, and so
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, you know, I guess you know,
Speaker 5: I'll do this, like okay, sure, let's go over lines.
Speaker 5: But then eventually it just kind of I just kind
Speaker 5: of faded away. I don't know that there was like
Speaker 5: an exact like moment where I was like, Okay, I'm done.
Speaker 5: It was just I turned down more and more auditions,
Speaker 5: and I think eventually it's kind of faded, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wondered, have you ever talked to your mom about
Speaker 1: Have you talked to your mom about it since then
Speaker 1: to see if because I'm thinking, like I know, my
Speaker 1: mom always said the same thing, like the minute this
Speaker 1: is not fun for you too, we can stop. And
Speaker 1: yet there were times I would put up a fight
Speaker 1: about an audition and my mom would be annoyed, not
Speaker 1: because she wanted me to go to the audition, but
Speaker 1: because she was like, listen, I don't want to fight
Speaker 1: with you. Over auditions. I'm just telling you that you
Speaker 1: have one. If you don't want to audition anymore, then
Speaker 1: say that so that I can tell them. But like
Speaker 1: she constantly felt kind of like the bad guy. She's like,
Speaker 1: we're only doing this because you want to do it.
Speaker 1: Let's not make this a bone of contention between us.
Speaker 1: So have you talked Did you ever talk to your
Speaker 1: mom to see if what her annoyance was about.
Speaker 5: No, we've never really like I've never really brought that up,
Speaker 5: but it was probably the same type of situation. Like
Speaker 5: I'm sure it was, you know, no sweat off her
Speaker 5: back to not have to drive an hour to Sally totally.
Speaker 4: But it's it's so it's you know, like I'm you know, Indy,
Speaker 4: just my son Indy, just like he'll complain about whatever
Speaker 4: we have to go do, right, if it's gymnastics, if
Speaker 4: it's school, if you know, And part of being a
Speaker 4: parent sometimes is knowing, like we got to push through
Speaker 4: this bad mood or this the fact that you're saying
Speaker 4: you don't want to do this. But when you're dealing
Speaker 4: with acting professional, it's everything's amped up, right because it's like,
Speaker 4: all right, if you did this job, you'd make a
Speaker 4: lot of money and it would be really good for
Speaker 4: your long term career, and I know that, but you
Speaker 4: also might just not feel like going to the audition,
Speaker 4: like that's the tension must be so high, and a
Speaker 4: parent in that situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I really realized because obviously I
Speaker 5: knew that it was you know, that I was making
Speaker 5: good money, but that wasn't even like a factor to
Speaker 5: me at all. Sure, And I didn't really grasp until
Speaker 5: I turned eighteen and got the money right where then
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, like I should have gone on
Speaker 5: more auditions.
Speaker 4: Even regardless regardless of the money. There's so much social
Speaker 4: capital too, especially with like Liar Liar. I mean, you're
Speaker 4: talking about being one of the biggest movies of all time,
Speaker 4: you know, and like if you're going to be a
Speaker 4: kid actor, you you hit this, you know, you hit
Speaker 4: the jackpot the same way that like we did, you know,
Speaker 4: with Boy Meets World, kind of randomly, like it's not
Speaker 4: really you think you're showing up to your Domino's commercial
Speaker 4: audition just as much as you're showing up to the
Speaker 4: Liar Liar. You know you're not in charge of this,
Speaker 4: and that that potential for those kinds of jobs to
Speaker 4: come out of the woodwork. I mean, that's that's a
Speaker 4: crazy it's a crazy business.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was always jealous of you guys though, because I,
Speaker 5: you know, as big as you know, Liar Liar was,
Speaker 5: and you know, a big movie. I always really wanted
Speaker 5: to like and I and I had, you know, with
Speaker 5: Brothers Keeper. I got that sitcom, but it you know,
Speaker 5: it only lasted the one season. But I was always
Speaker 5: really jealous of how much of a family you guys were,
Speaker 5: And I thought like, that's like the coolest part about
Speaker 5: being on a sitcom is like you just have this
Speaker 5: familiarity with everybody, and you know, you keep coming back
Speaker 5: to the same crew, the same cast, and I always
Speaker 5: thought that was really awesome.
Speaker 4: It was sometimes times it's great, but having a company,
Speaker 4: you know, having a kidd truth that is your team.
Speaker 2: Is amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, but I also think that as a kid, when
Speaker 4: you do a movie or any job that only lasts
Speaker 4: of several months, you know, it's it's it's jarring because
Speaker 4: you become friends with like the second ad and you
Speaker 4: think that they're going to be your friend for life,
Speaker 4: But really that's a twenty five year old grown up
Speaker 4: who's going to move on to their next job and
Speaker 4: never really think about you again. Yeah, and like that's
Speaker 4: totally understandable from everyone, but for a nine year old.
Speaker 5: Like what happened?
Speaker 2: I just lost my pal? Like that's you know, you think.
Speaker 4: Every job is going to be and we were we
Speaker 4: were very lucky that our big, one of our big
Speaker 4: early jobs, we were able to stay together for seven years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time to hear her side of the story.
Speaker 2: I love the show so much.
Speaker 4: I was like, please throw my name in the mix.
Speaker 1: I need to be in on this.
Speaker 7: We were sure she was going to be the next
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Speaker 1: So, Justin, do you keep in touch with anyone from
Speaker 1: your acting past?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, I don't really. You know, a lot of people
Speaker 5: always ask me, logo, do you still talk to Jim Carrey?
Speaker 1: Know, m yeah, called Jim. We've kept in Dutch for
Speaker 1: thirty years.
Speaker 5: Right, No, And that's what people also ask me, like, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, do you think if you saw him would
Speaker 5: he remember you? Yeah? I would, Yeah, of course I
Speaker 5: think so for of course. But you know, I think
Speaker 5: as far as anybody that like Natasha Slayton was an
Speaker 5: actress on Brothers Keeper and her dad is Bobby Slayton,
Speaker 5: the comedian, and uh, she is somebody that I'm still
Speaker 5: like friends with on social media, and you know, we'll
Speaker 5: exchange like you know, hey, how you've been every so often.
Speaker 5: But that's you know, that's for the most part, that's
Speaker 5: pretty much it.
Speaker 1: Well, totally random. Another common thread that Justin and I share. Justin,
Speaker 1: do you happen to have like a favorite camp counselor
Speaker 1: or anything?
Speaker 5: Yes? All right, so this this blew my mind.
Speaker 2: What is happening now?
Speaker 5: You guys don't know, No, okay. Well, so when I,
Speaker 5: you know, started rewatching for me Its World and and
Speaker 5: actually started listening to you guys' podcast, I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I really I want to be on this. And so
Speaker 5: I was researching finding out who I should contact, and uh,
Speaker 5: you know, found out the producer was Jensen, and then
Speaker 5: I got his email, emailed him and he replies back
Speaker 5: to me. He's like Justin. He's like, you're not going
Speaker 5: to believe this. I was your camp counselor.
Speaker 2: Let's show the picture. Oh come on, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Look at Jensen's Proston tips and those She's wearing a
Speaker 1: shirt that says staff on the sleeve.
Speaker 2: It's like a Meadow Oaks shirt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Meadow Oak shirt.
Speaker 2: You will doll like Chris kerpak Trick. I didn't notice
Speaker 2: that you were so cool.
Speaker 8: I don't know whether it was, you know, because Justin
Speaker 8: was like, oh god me when I was a kid.
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, trust me, You're not the most
Speaker 8: embarrassing part of the photo.
Speaker 2: No, Justin looks totally like Justin. He looks like.
Speaker 1: Our net sunglasses definitely are not.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, you are the epitome of cool.
Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety nine, yes, I look like I'm in
Speaker 5: a ska band.
Speaker 2: You do totally do you do?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: But you are a camp counselor. Dude, that's so cool.
Speaker 8: I will say, I will say he I was only
Speaker 8: his counselor on certain days. I know my friend Chris,
Speaker 8: I think was his camp counselor almost every day. He
Speaker 8: was so sweet and kind and loving. And you would
Speaker 8: never even know because this is post liar, liar, this
Speaker 8: is like the summer after and uh, you wouldn't even
Speaker 8: know the kid was.
Speaker 2: In a movie.
Speaker 4: Justin.
Speaker 1: You've got a big stick popsicle in your hand.
Speaker 2: Yes, waiting, I was going to take to notice the popsicle.
Speaker 1: Big sticks, those were the greatest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you when you got to camp, you chose
Speaker 5: your snack that day? Did you want a big stick
Speaker 5: or I can't even remember what the other choice was
Speaker 5: because I always picked big stick. Yes, broccoli.
Speaker 8: I'm so happy to see he's doing good. I just
Speaker 8: this picture again. It'll go back into the vault, but
Speaker 8: we'll put it on social media before.
Speaker 5: Awesome.
Speaker 2: Man, that's the best. So justin.
Speaker 1: Now, you are a sports radio producer and you're an
Speaker 1: occasional on air commentator for Fox Sports radio. You work
Speaker 1: on shows like The Ben Mahler Show and Clay Travis's
Speaker 1: OutKick the Coverage. Have you always been into sports and
Speaker 1: or radio?
Speaker 5: Yes? On the sports, I mean, for the most part.
Speaker 5: I think right around seven years old is when I
Speaker 5: started getting into sports, and after the acting fade away,
Speaker 5: I kind of knew that sports was where I wanted
Speaker 5: to work in because that's what I was like passionate about,
Speaker 5: and radio just kind of kind of happened. I think
Speaker 5: I was in college and I would listen to Fox
Speaker 5: Sports Radio like on my drive to school all the time,
Speaker 5: and I just I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 5: think it'd be fun to be an intern there, and
Speaker 5: so emailed them asking for an internship and turned into
Speaker 5: a job and that's I've been there for almost twelve years.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. What's your favorite sport?
Speaker 5: Football? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're a Broncos fan, you said, yes? But
Speaker 2: born and raised in La.
Speaker 5: Yes, all right, So at the time that I started
Speaker 5: watching football, LA didn't have a football team, right, And
Speaker 5: is this the years? Yes, it was nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's back to back elway years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was I was a Bandwagon fan as
Speaker 5: a kid, but I've stuck with them since, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that story. Well, that's how I became
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan, exact same way that you know. Had
Speaker 1: had grown up watching football with my dad. Then the
Speaker 1: Rams left and my dad was angry that the Rams left,
Speaker 1: and so he started watching Cowboys football. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's when I really got into it. I became a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. And my dad has since gone back to
Speaker 1: being a Rams fan, and I was like, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Not, I'm sticking with the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got me. Man.
Speaker 1: Do you when your coworkers found out then that you
Speaker 1: were the kid from Liar Liar? What was their reaction?
Speaker 5: Oh? Everybody is always stunned finding out. And it's funny
Speaker 5: now because for the longest time, it was easily like
Speaker 5: I'm recognizable. Yeah, but when I grew the beard cut
Speaker 5: my hair, then it stopped happening as frequently, so then
Speaker 5: it would have to be somebody else that knew.
Speaker 2: That brings it up to somebody, right, did you know?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Exactly, And then it's you know, such a such
Speaker 5: a shock what Yeah, And now we're getting to the
Speaker 5: point where it's like, you know, I have coworkers or
Speaker 5: people that I meet that weren't even alive when the
Speaker 5: movie came out.
Speaker 2: Yep, we know that feeling.
Speaker 5: I know that feeling.
Speaker 2: Well, well, my grandmother used to have pictures of you
Speaker 2: on her wall. Thanks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: It's just it's a weird thing because it used to
Speaker 5: be like, oh have you seen the movie Liar Liar?
Speaker 5: And the answer for so long from everybody was and
Speaker 5: now it's to the point where it's almost like fifty
Speaker 5: to fifty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, just you know old movie the thirty The
Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary of Liar Liar will be in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that's going to be worth the reunion.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll.
Speaker 3: Say I just now, I've just been picturing Jim Carrey
Speaker 3: just sitting in his backyard in the twenty five cent batmobiles,
Speaker 3: still just riding it every day, still just riding it
Speaker 3: every day.
Speaker 5: Why has nobody written a sequel for for Liar Liary?
Speaker 5: Yet they've done every other movie?
Speaker 2: Right, right, I know, just called Pants on Fire.
Speaker 1: It's great, it's great.
Speaker 2: Do you ever miss being in front of the camera?
Speaker 5: Yes, And I think if you had asked me that
Speaker 5: question ten years ago, maybe even like, you know, five
Speaker 5: years ago, it would have been like not not really,
Speaker 5: but I love you know, aside from sports, I still
Speaker 5: love show business, movies TV. Ye love consuming it, watching it,
Speaker 5: and I don't know, just I feel like I watch
Speaker 5: things differently than people than most people too, and I'll
Speaker 5: watch something I'll be like, oh, man, like that would
Speaker 5: have been so much fun to film, or or I'll
Speaker 5: watch thing where I'll be like, I know I could
Speaker 5: do better than that, right, yeah, So I think you
Speaker 5: know that happens, and I think that would be you know,
Speaker 5: nowadays I'm thinking like, oh, that would be fun. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But it's different as an adult because you know, back
Speaker 5: then it's like, Okay, I'm going on audition. Did I
Speaker 5: get it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Oh, well then on to the next one, and so
Speaker 5: thinking of getting back into it, it's kind of scary
Speaker 5: because it's like, okay, well if you don't get this job,
Speaker 5: when's your next paycheck coming? It's so much more pressure
Speaker 5: and as adult, like I, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So looking back now, twenty five years since Boy Meets
Speaker 1: World and on a much larger scale, Liar, Liar, what
Speaker 1: would you tell that little version of justin now as
Speaker 1: an adult watching him, Oh.
Speaker 5: I would say, enjoy the ride. There's so many like
Speaker 5: awesome things that I got to do that I think,
Speaker 5: looking back now, I appreciated more than I did at
Speaker 5: the time. Right, so many awesome people that I got
Speaker 5: to meet, all the experiences that I had, Like when
Speaker 5: I was doing a Brother's Keeper, and you know, we
Speaker 5: did all the ABC stuff, like getting flown out to
Speaker 5: Florida to go to Disney World and he would get
Speaker 5: we'd get like a tour guide, like our own personal
Speaker 5: tour guide that would take us around. We get to
Speaker 5: go to the front of the lines. They'd be buying
Speaker 5: whatever we wanted. And it's just like at the time,
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, yeah, this is cool. But now looking back,
Speaker 5: like I can't believe you did that. What's the same?
Speaker 1: I know you'd think that as kids we would have
Speaker 1: been like this is unreal, and yet somehow you just
Speaker 1: totally take it for until you look back on it
Speaker 1: as an adult and you go, man, I really should
Speaker 1: have recognized her long. I should have recognized that for
Speaker 1: what it was. Well, justin we have so enjoyed reuniting
Speaker 1: with you, so appreciate you taking the time to come
Speaker 1: and chat with us. Always a pleasure to see you.
Speaker 1: Let's hop in the car together and go to some event.
Speaker 1: Let's go to a charity event together. My mom, Jennifer
Speaker 1: fish Ole drive and we'll just endo that seat and chat.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being here with us, Jessica, seeing you again.
Speaker 2: Justin you too, bye, Keep in touch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, so time right, It's just I
Speaker 1: can't believe it. Twenty five years since Boy Meets since
Speaker 1: he was on Boy Meets World, and yeah.
Speaker 3: I just am amazed at the beginning though, when you
Speaker 3: were when you were listing all of his credits, all
Speaker 3: his credits, and by this point he's seven. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like you were fourteen credits in and he says, no,
Speaker 3: you ask him the question.
Speaker 1: You're like, so, you know, I asked him. When he starts,
Speaker 1: he's like five, and they we're like okay. So by
Speaker 1: this time, after I've named like nine things, how old
Speaker 1: are and he's like it's six six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh he was just but he was that child
Speaker 2: after the way booking Lawrence was the same way.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like if you are a talented kid
Speaker 4: at the right page at the right time, where like
Speaker 4: that's the type they wanted, right, Like he fit the
Speaker 4: type and he kind of looks like Matt Lawrence too, Yeah.
Speaker 2: As a kid when they were like it's like if
Speaker 2: you get.
Speaker 1: That certain like and Jonathan Taylor Thomas that the.
Speaker 3: Raspy voice, memory voice easy to direct to your all,
Speaker 3: that you'll book all the time, You'll book all the time.
Speaker 2: And then of course it just becomes getting the kid
Speaker 2: from Liar Liar or a kid from that show. You know,
Speaker 2: they just you just keep.
Speaker 4: Working because people know that you're a professional, your parents
Speaker 4: are cool, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And then you've already been a part of something that
Speaker 1: so you work. You contributed to something that was already successful.
Speaker 1: So let's just try to keep Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
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