Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Joe podcast, make sure
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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Over a year into the
Speaker 1: presidency of Joe Biden, and America's border crisis continues to
Speaker 1: get worse. Between policies that fail to discourage illegal entry
Speaker 1: and inept leadership from so called Border Czar Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: Vice President, the White House appears unwilling or unable to
Speaker 1: take the issue seriously, or perhaps they just want more
Speaker 1: illegal immigration. In this special edition of Whole of the Line,
Speaker 1: will take a look at America's ongoing illegal migrant surge
Speaker 1: and how the Biden administration has failed in its obligation
Speaker 1: to secure America's southern border. Welcome to the special edition
Speaker 1: of Hold the Line. I'm Buck Sexton. The numbers don't lie.
Speaker 1: In fact, they tell the tale quite clearly. We have
Speaker 1: just gone through the worst twelve months or so at
Speaker 1: our southern border in history. And this is occurring at
Speaker 1: a time when the Biden regime is in the midst
Speaker 1: of various failures, scandals, and clear mismanagement, whether it's of
Speaker 1: the economy, of national security, of you name it, add
Speaker 1: the border the list that it feels like the Biden
Speaker 1: administration is just at this point unable to see straight.
Speaker 1: I mean, they can't figure out anything unless you start
Speaker 1: to take the different position that maybe this is all
Speaker 1: about violation of sovereignty in this country as a policy,
Speaker 1: that the more illegals we have, the more likely it
Speaker 1: is over time to tip the balance in this country demographically,
Speaker 1: and when it comes to voters in favor of the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party, the newly awry, particularly those who arrive illegally,
Speaker 1: are more likely to want state benefits and help from
Speaker 1: the government, and therefore the party of government, of big government,
Speaker 1: the Democrats, are going to get their votes. It's just
Speaker 1: a question of when you legalize them, when the amnesty
Speaker 1: happens right. Plus, at the local and state level, as
Speaker 1: we know, illegal immigrants are treated as though they are
Speaker 1: citizens places like California and New York, giving them benefits,
Speaker 1: giving them drivers, licenses, in state tuition, you name it.
Speaker 1: So how bad is the problem getting If you believe
Speaker 1: that we should have some say over who comes into
Speaker 1: this country, where do we stand, Well, here's a graph
Speaker 1: showing that encounters from fiscally, you're twenty twenty two, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, and twenty twenty tell quite a story. As
Speaker 1: you can see here, it's already fiscally, you're twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: we're hitting early records, and as the year goes on,
Speaker 1: it's likely numbers will go up considerably. So we may
Speaker 1: in fact have the highest the highest level of encounters
Speaker 1: at our southern border of all time. Now, by encounters,
Speaker 1: let's be clear, we mean migrant who are being arrested
Speaker 1: for entering the country illegally. That's what they mean by encounters. Now,
Speaker 1: in many cases that these are family units, they'll actually
Speaker 1: wave down border patrol. I've seen this myself, so this
Speaker 1: is not theoretical. This is not just reporting from other folks.
Speaker 1: I've been there. They'll wave down the border patrol and
Speaker 1: then tell them, often very in very scripted terms, that
Speaker 1: they want asylum in this country because they're abusing the
Speaker 1: asylum process. That's the whole point of it, right. That's
Speaker 1: one end run. But as Title forty two will be
Speaker 1: coming to an end soon, there'll be an even larger
Speaker 1: flood of migrants that we had previously seen. Because one
Speaker 1: of the only ways that border patrol had been able
Speaker 1: to quickly turn back, those who enter in the country
Speaker 1: illegally will be gone. That tool will be out of
Speaker 1: the toolbox, so to speak. So what are we expecting, Well,
Speaker 1: the biggest influx of illegal immigrants in the history of
Speaker 1: this country in a short period of time, and the
Speaker 1: Biden administration has no answers. In fact, they are best option,
Speaker 1: it seems at this point, is to just lie about
Speaker 1: it as aggressively as they can. I mean, here was
Speaker 1: Jensaki back in April of twenty twenty one telling you
Speaker 1: don't worry. The influx of illegals is a cyclical and seasonal.
Speaker 1: Secretary Maorch has put out a statement saying this is
Speaker 1: the highest case of border crossing in twenty years. Yesterday
Speaker 1: President's Hiden made it seem like this is not too
Speaker 1: unusual compared to other previous years. That tears of the
Speaker 1: number of people trying to cross the borders, it's about average.
Speaker 1: Those don't seem to square. How does the administration view
Speaker 1: this in terms of whether this press netted or whether
Speaker 1: this is an increase all The President was making the
Speaker 1: point that we have seen increases at the border in
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen when he was the vice president. Twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen, and he conveyed that over the last
Speaker 1: six months of the Trump administration there was an increase
Speaker 1: of about thirty one percent. We've seen an increase of
Speaker 1: about twenty nine percent over the last several months since
Speaker 1: he took office. So the point is, we've dealt with
Speaker 1: this before. It is often seasonal, is often cyclical, and
Speaker 1: he just wanted to convey that in his effort to
Speaker 1: communicate and provide educational information to the public. Well, here
Speaker 1: we are a year later, and we know that it
Speaker 1: was neither seasonal nor cyclical. It was an all time record,
Speaker 1: and that you've had almost two million people come into
Speaker 1: the country illegally over the last twelve months. And those
Speaker 1: numbers are estimates at some level. We don't know everybody
Speaker 1: who's entering illegally across the southern border. They estimate how
Speaker 1: many gadaways they are, they don't actually know. And the
Speaker 1: numbers on this are just looking increasingly like the Biden
Speaker 1: administration is swap. I mean, they don't know how to
Speaker 1: get through this without the American people actually see there's
Speaker 1: a major problem here, and so that then brings us
Speaker 1: to maybe they just try to lie about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: here is the OMB director saying that so far border
Speaker 1: crossings are you know, in line with what we've seen
Speaker 1: in the past. Watch. Look, we have a pattern of migration,
Speaker 1: and we are preparing to ramp up for a traditional
Speaker 1: pattern of additional people coming across the border. My question is,
Speaker 1: what do you support eliminating town to forty two deportation authority.
Speaker 1: I don't have a personal opinion. I believe we from
Speaker 1: a resource position or putting forth enough money to deal
Speaker 1: with a historic pattern historic. Now, if she means historic
Speaker 1: by record setting, then that's true. If she means in
Speaker 1: line with historic norms, that's not true. And it's probably
Speaker 1: going to be in the months of June, July, and
Speaker 1: August the most we have ever seen because right now
Speaker 1: the word is out. People know that at our southern
Speaker 1: border there are a variety of ways to gain the
Speaker 1: system and get into the country, and they know that
Speaker 1: border patrol is overstretched. They know that if they want
Speaker 1: to just do a run into the country, whether it's
Speaker 1: vehicular or on foot with drugs with fentanyl that is
Speaker 1: poisoning over one hundred thousand Americans a year, or I
Speaker 1: should say one hundred thousand overdoses a year, seventy five
Speaker 1: percent of which are opioids, A large percentage of that
Speaker 1: is fentanyl. This is all happening at our southern border
Speaker 1: right now, and what does the Biden administration's view of
Speaker 1: how to stop this. They're going to send down more
Speaker 1: resources that make it easier to process the people who
Speaker 1: are illegally entering the country. That's where we currently stand
Speaker 1: on this one. There's no plan to make this stop
Speaker 1: because they don't want to make it stop, and that
Speaker 1: brings us then full circle. Why wouldn't this continue to
Speaker 1: get worse? The Biden administration does not. The Democrat left
Speaker 1: does not illegal immigration as something that is undesirable. They
Speaker 1: would like more of it. They want more people coming
Speaker 1: into the country who are illegal, because then they're going
Speaker 1: to claim but they need to have an amnesty. This
Speaker 1: amnesty will be for tens of millions of illegals and
Speaker 1: it will forever change the American political Landscape's Oh, they're
Speaker 1: gonna say it's not going to be voting rights. Sure,
Speaker 1: we'll see the moment they get an amnesty, how long
Speaker 1: it won't be for voting rights? Claim will last. Of course,
Speaker 1: they're going to end up having full citizenship and voting
Speaker 1: rights down the line. That's the way amnesties work. That's
Speaker 1: what's going to happen here. So this is the Democrats
Speaker 1: big plan. It seems to me they're executing on it
Speaker 1: while pretending this is what they don't want. Will it
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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security Secretary under Obama J. Johnson rang
Speaker 1: the alarm on the border crisis when agents were encountering
Speaker 1: four thousand migrants at the border each day. Watch. I
Speaker 1: know what a thousand a day looks like. I sought
Speaker 1: myself at border patrol holding stations. I cannot begin to
Speaker 1: imagine what four thousand a day looks like. It must
Speaker 1: overwhelm the system. I think we have to get away
Speaker 1: from democrat versus Republican crisis versus no crisis. This is
Speaker 1: a crisis by any measure. Fast forward to today, DHS
Speaker 1: is bracing four potentially eighteen thousand migrant encounters per day
Speaker 1: when the Biden administration ends Title forty two next month.
Speaker 1: So where is DHS secretary of ma orchis and all this,
Speaker 1: and why is the White House not prioritizing this obviously
Speaker 1: escalating problem of lawlessness. Let's ask Director of Policy Studies
Speaker 1: at the Center for Immigration Studies, Jessica Vaughn. Jessica, thanks
Speaker 1: for being with us, Thank you all right. So, according
Speaker 1: to the Migrant Policy Institute, forty two has been used
Speaker 1: to remove migrants more than one point seven million times
Speaker 1: already since the start of the pandemic. To tell us
Speaker 1: about how this has been a tool that, among very
Speaker 1: few it seems, has actually been useful in turning people
Speaker 1: away after a legal crossing, well, Title forty two is
Speaker 1: a tool under the Public Health Law that allows the
Speaker 1: federal government to expel people for public health reasons without
Speaker 1: having them go through any formal immigration proceeding or even
Speaker 1: be formally deported. So it's a quick and easy way
Speaker 1: to simply turn people back at the border without having
Speaker 1: to process them, which takes a lot of effort. It
Speaker 1: also means that people can no longer gain the asylum system.
Speaker 1: The Department of Homeland Security doesn't have to worry about
Speaker 1: detaining families or kids. It just blocks everyone from entering
Speaker 1: the country. And this was put into place by President Trump.
Speaker 1: It was reduced in scope by President Biden. He started
Speaker 1: exempting large categories of illegal border crossers from Title forty
Speaker 1: two expulsion. And now he's announced that he's going to
Speaker 1: stop using this authority at all. And that leaves the
Speaker 1: question of, well, what are they going to do with
Speaker 1: what we know is a huge number of prospective illegal
Speaker 1: border crossers who are now making their way to the
Speaker 1: Central America and Mexico and up to our border. How
Speaker 1: are they going to process them? What is their plan?
Speaker 1: I think there are some clues, but they have not
Speaker 1: been entirely candid about exactly what they want to do.
Speaker 1: I have seen some analysis, including from your own organization,
Speaker 1: CIS that there may be a change and even how
Speaker 1: the processing works for asylum seekers at the border. Can
Speaker 1: you explain how far along the Biden administration may be
Speaker 1: in that change and what it would mean, what it
Speaker 1: would do. Well, yes, they have announced some plans to
Speaker 1: make changes to how asylum seekers are processed now. And
Speaker 1: to put this into context, a federal judge has determined
Speaker 1: in response to lawsuits by a group of states that
Speaker 1: are frustrated by the Biden administrations continuing failure to get
Speaker 1: control of the border and deter illegal migration. So this
Speaker 1: judge said, look, under immigration law, you have two choices.
Speaker 1: You either have to detain people or you have to
Speaker 1: send them back to Mexico to await any processing. For example,
Speaker 1: if they want to make an asylum application. Well, the
Speaker 1: Biden administration is saying, well, we're going to do something
Speaker 1: different now. They've proposed a system that will allow people
Speaker 1: to apply for asylum at the border and be essentially
Speaker 1: whisked into the country to have their hearing in about
Speaker 1: three weeks with an asylum officer, a bureaucrat from a
Speaker 1: group of people that they are now trying to hire
Speaker 1: who will be interpreting the law according to guidelines that
Speaker 1: the Biden administration gives them, instead of going to immigration
Speaker 1: court where an immigration judge would decide on their asylum application.
Speaker 1: So basically it's a way to expedite kind of waving
Speaker 1: people through and laundering their status as asylum applicants so
Speaker 1: that they don't have to do what the judge said,
Speaker 1: which is either detain people or send them back across
Speaker 1: the border to Mexico. So it's a revolutionary change to
Speaker 1: how illegal border crossers will be handled. That is guaranteed
Speaker 1: to increase the incentives for people to come here and
Speaker 1: try to get in because they know this is basically
Speaker 1: a formalized catch and release program. And what percentage do
Speaker 1: we have some idea right now? With Title forty two
Speaker 1: still in place, there have been huge numbers of migrants
Speaker 1: illegally crossing in the US and then seeking to stay
Speaker 1: here over the last year, let's just say, the last
Speaker 1: twelve months or so, what percentage of them are actually
Speaker 1: likely to be able to stay? I mean, this is
Speaker 1: I think where it starts to get really confusing for people,
Speaker 1: because there's the asylum track. There are single adult males,
Speaker 1: their family units. I've seen the family units at the
Speaker 1: border and women with small children. They're treated very differently.
Speaker 1: They're unaccompanied miners. Who is getting to stay right now
Speaker 1: and who does it well? In the last six months,
Speaker 1: there have been about a million people encountered by the
Speaker 1: border patrol, and about half of those have been allowed
Speaker 1: to stay under the policy they've expelled. Biden administration policy
Speaker 1: has been to expel about half of the people arriving
Speaker 1: on Title forty two and let the other half come in.
Speaker 1: And of course there's an additional tens of thousands of
Speaker 1: goataways that we know about coming through per month as well,
Speaker 1: and those are a whole other story. They're just getting
Speaker 1: through with this possible change that we're expecting from the
Speaker 1: administration that they've been kind of forecasting themselves with some
Speaker 1: documents that they've filed with federal government. I would expect
Speaker 1: that the vast majority of people who are coming would
Speaker 1: have the ability to enter the country under whether it's
Speaker 1: as an asylum applicant or under some other forms that
Speaker 1: the Biden administration uses, because they are actually shrinking detention
Speaker 1: capacity at the border, which should tell us that they're
Speaker 1: not planning on detaining. They're not planning on sending people
Speaker 1: back right away. They're planning on having this managed math
Speaker 1: entry of people who show up at the border under
Speaker 1: the guise of a humanitarian admission. Kind I ask, because
Speaker 1: I just I find this fascinating. So you said, of
Speaker 1: the million, let's which is a huge number. Obviously everyone
Speaker 1: sitting is like a million in six months. Of the million,
Speaker 1: and not even including the gotaways, I think the gotaway
Speaker 1: number estimate that I saw was in the hundreds of thousands,
Speaker 1: so you'd have to add that to it. So half
Speaker 1: of them get to stay who come to country legally,
Speaker 1: Are they all staying under some version of an asylum
Speaker 1: asylum process or there are other reasons they get to stay. Well,
Speaker 1: they're being allowed to stay by expressing a fear of return.
Speaker 1: And what we've found in the past that most of them,
Speaker 1: if they're allowed to enter after saying they fear return.
Speaker 1: Don't even bother to fill out the asylum application. They
Speaker 1: just use that as a pretext for being allowed to enter,
Speaker 1: and the Biden administration goes along with that as long
Speaker 1: as they know what to say, and they're coached by
Speaker 1: the smuggling organizations and by the NGOs that are helping
Speaker 1: them out on the Mexican side. Once they set foot
Speaker 1: on US soil, they say I'm afraid to be returned home,
Speaker 1: then they're allowed in. And we can expect that that's
Speaker 1: going to be most of the people that are coming
Speaker 1: on their way now to the border and after May
Speaker 1: twenty third, when the Title forty two policy is lifted.
Speaker 1: So they find some loopholes in the law to avoid
Speaker 1: returning people, which is actually what the law says is
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. If they're an illegal border crosser, they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be returned quickly or detained until a judge
Speaker 1: and rule on whether they should be allowed to stay.
Speaker 1: That's that hasn't been happening at all. They've been just
Speaker 1: waiving people in. It almost feels like the bidministration kind
Speaker 1: of likes this illegal immigration situation. But anyway, Jessica. Well,
Speaker 1: they've had a year to fix it and they haven't
Speaker 1: tried to. So it looks like they're about to make it,
Speaker 1: fair to say, just real quick, They're gonna make it
Speaker 1: much worse now right. It's a situations about to get worse.
Speaker 1: It's going only going to get worse. Deska, thanks for
Speaker 1: being to appreciate the expertise. Thank you. As the nation
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Speaker 1: southern border, some states are taking steps to stem the
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Speaker 1: his lone Star States plan to bus illegal migrants north
Speaker 1: to Washington, DC. Take a look to help local officials
Speaker 1: whose communities are being overwhelmed by hordes of illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: who are being dropped off by the Biden administration. Texas
Speaker 1: is providing charter buses to send these illegal immigrants who
Speaker 1: have been dropped off by the Biden administration to Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: We are sending them to the United States Capital, where
Speaker 1: the Biden administration will be able to more immediately address
Speaker 1: the needs of the people that they are allowing to
Speaker 1: come across our border. Some estimants as high as eighteen
Speaker 1: thousand migrants per day said to arrive whence Title forty
Speaker 1: two is lifted, Texas is going to need a lot
Speaker 1: of buses. Maybe me more on this in a special
Speaker 1: edition of the Buck Brief. Biden administration doesn't care about
Speaker 1: all the illegal immigration. They care about the politics involved.
Speaker 1: When the American people see what a mess this is
Speaker 1: doesn't bother them. There are so many illegals coming into
Speaker 1: the country every day already, or the last year was
Speaker 1: essentially the all time record, over two million apprehensions and
Speaker 1: counters they call them euphemistically. At the southern border, hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of additional goataways, people who just got into
Speaker 1: the United States. Some of them are drug smugglers poisoning
Speaker 1: our cities and towns with fentonyl That's what's going on
Speaker 1: right now at the southern border. But the Biden administration
Speaker 1: is only really concerned with the optics. Do the American
Speaker 1: people actually see what's going on? Well, they're starting to see.
Speaker 1: And here's video from Bill mulugiona Fox News showing the
Speaker 1: mass release of single adult migrants from federal custody in Brownsville.
Speaker 1: And you'd have to ask yourself if they can get
Speaker 1: into the country so easily, if they're being let in
Speaker 1: the country, who isn't being let into the US at
Speaker 1: this point, who's being told that they're going to be
Speaker 1: turned back? Some of these are single adult males. Even
Speaker 1: why would they be led into the United States when
Speaker 1: they've come in illegally. Well, because Biden administration doesn't really
Speaker 1: believe in the rule of law when it comes to immigration,
Speaker 1: doesn't really believe that illegal immigrants are even a problem
Speaker 1: of any kind for a society in terms of the
Speaker 1: violations of the rule of law, the violations of US sovereignty,
Speaker 1: the amount of money taxpayers spend on the services for
Speaker 1: individuals who are not legally supposed to be in the
Speaker 1: United States. Democrats say this is not just a nation
Speaker 1: of immigrants, but that a nation of illegal immigrant. They
Speaker 1: believe that it doesn't matter a person can't be illegal,
Speaker 1: They say, then why have immigration laws at all? Why
Speaker 1: not just have a Congress that passes Why don't have
Speaker 1: Democrats pass a bill, or at least try to pass
Speaker 1: one that says that anyone can come and go as
Speaker 1: they please. That starts to get pretty tough for things
Speaker 1: like voting and the tax base and a whole range
Speaker 1: of issues. Right, determining who is and who is not
Speaker 1: a part of your polity is a pretty essential component
Speaker 1: of actually having a nation, having a nation state. That's
Speaker 1: a big deal, isn't it. Democrats disagree, So we know
Speaker 1: the Biden administration is not going to do very much
Speaker 1: about this. They're not going to try to stop the flow.
Speaker 1: If anything, they just want to hide the flow. They
Speaker 1: want to streamline the migrants, who, by the hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands are already on a monthly basis coming through soon.
Speaker 1: They expect it'll be about eighteen thousand a day once
Speaker 1: the Title forty two authority of the CDC expires. So
Speaker 1: what are we going to do about this? Well, some
Speaker 1: governors are stepping up. Governor Abbot of Texas has decided
Speaker 1: to well, I'll let him tell you. To help local
Speaker 1: officials whose communities are being overwhelmed by hordes of illegal
Speaker 1: immigrants who are being dropped off by the Biden administration.
Speaker 1: Texas is providing charter buses to send these illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: who have been dropped off by the Biden administration to Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: We are sending them to the United States capital, where
Speaker 1: the Biden administration will be able to more immediately address
Speaker 1: the needs of the people that they are allowing to
Speaker 1: come across our border. Chartering buses to send illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: to places where Democrats don't really expect to have to
Speaker 1: deal with them, to Democrat neighborhoods, in this case, to
Speaker 1: our nation's capital itself, with the idea that you know
Speaker 1: that will be hard to ignore. There'll be visuals of
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants. Now, let me just say this. This is
Speaker 1: a voluntary program. So this is not people who are
Speaker 1: being detained and put on charter buses they're going to
Speaker 1: be offered. This is really, at some level a political stunt.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest about this. We're conservatives. We don't live
Speaker 1: in an alternate reality. We live in the only actual reality.
Speaker 1: And so how many people will actually get on these
Speaker 1: buses and be transferred to these areas, probably very few
Speaker 1: of though, who knows. Maybe they want a free ride
Speaker 1: and a nice charter bus to DC. Depends these are
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants after all. MU sure how much cash they
Speaker 1: want to throw around to get to their final destination
Speaker 1: within the US. And Ted Cruz certainly likes the optics
Speaker 1: of this. He says, it's an excellent idea, Governor Rabbitt's idea.
Speaker 1: But Texas shouldn't only send charter buses of illegal aliens
Speaker 1: to DC. I filed federal legislations. Who also send them
Speaker 1: to Martha's Vineyard, very fancy place where people go in
Speaker 1: the summertime, Nantucket, same thing, Palo Alto, Greenwich, Connecticut, Scarsdale, Newport,
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, and Rhoboth Beach, Delaware. So singling out here
Speaker 1: really the preferred summer homes for the most part, destinations
Speaker 1: of the Democrat elite along the coasts. That's what that
Speaker 1: list is all about from Senator Ted Cruz. And so
Speaker 1: he's trying to make a case here that one of
Speaker 1: the reasons Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and
Speaker 1: others are so favorable to illegal immigration is that they
Speaker 1: don't deal with the consequences of illegal immigration in their
Speaker 1: own neighborhoods, the drain on resources and services, the increase
Speaker 1: that will occur when you're bringing in lots of people
Speaker 1: without vetting and not knowing what or who the situation
Speaker 1: is that that's actually brought them into the country. The
Speaker 1: cartels are a massive component of the human smuggling here.
Speaker 1: There's some that are saying the cartels are making up
Speaker 1: to one hundred million dollars a week at the southern
Speaker 1: border right now on the smuggling operations alone. So while
Speaker 1: all of that is going on, Democrats get to say
Speaker 1: it's not their problem, and some are saying, no, we're
Speaker 1: going to actually make sure the American people see what's
Speaker 1: really going on here. Here's Governor Ron de Santisa Florida,
Speaker 1: for example, saying he's going to send illegals to sanctuary
Speaker 1: states like Delaware. So what we're doing in Florida is saying,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to let the recklessness of
Speaker 1: those policies impact our states. So we do not. If
Speaker 1: businesses are contractors are dumping people who are illegal into
Speaker 1: Florida from southern Texas, you know we're going to go
Speaker 1: after their ability to do business in Florida. If Biden
Speaker 1: is dumping people, which he has dumped people, they fly
Speaker 1: him in at two in the morning. They haven't done
Speaker 1: it lately, but they did it many months ago. You know,
Speaker 1: we now have money where we can reroute them to
Speaker 1: sanctuary states like Delaware, and we're going to do that
Speaker 1: to make sure that we're keeping people safe here. They
Speaker 1: route them to Delaware, by the way, to give you
Speaker 1: a sense of just how serious the Biden administration, the
Speaker 1: Biden regime really is about the illegal immigration tsunami that
Speaker 1: has already been underway. It's only going to get bigger.
Speaker 1: It's going to turn into a massive tidal wave here soon.
Speaker 1: They actually hand out phones to illegal immigrants so they
Speaker 1: can track them, they say, and tell them, hey, it's
Speaker 1: time for you to show up to a hearing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess how well that works out. But Jen Slaki
Speaker 1: admits that they actually do give free phones. Wash thank you, Jen.
Speaker 1: First Immigration, our team in Texas is saying that you
Speaker 1: guys are starting to give smartphones to border crossers, hoping
Speaker 1: that they'll use the phones to check in or to
Speaker 1: be tracked, which part of that is supposed to deter
Speaker 1: people from crossing illegally into the States. Well, I think
Speaker 1: you have all people, since you've asked me a range
Speaker 1: of questions on this topic over time, would recognize that
Speaker 1: we need to take steps to ensure that we know
Speaker 1: where individuals are and we can track and we can
Speaker 1: check in with them. Yeah, do you think those individuals
Speaker 1: were in the country illegally? You're really going to answer
Speaker 1: the phone call when it's hey, can you show up
Speaker 1: at your asylum hearing? Hey, can you check in with
Speaker 1: Immigrations and Customs Enforcement now to enter you into the
Speaker 1: system because they don't even know who or where these
Speaker 1: individuals are. I'm gonna go with probably not so much.
Speaker 1: And there's of course Obama's former DHS Secretary j Johnson
Speaker 1: earlier today speaking some sanity. He's a Democrat, but he's
Speaker 1: a same Democrat here he is saying it is absolutely
Speaker 1: a crisis at the border. Watch if you go to Laredo, Texas,
Speaker 1: which is eighty five percent Mexican American. They want our
Speaker 1: border under control. Numbers of seven thousand a day and
Speaker 1: the estimates are now as it could climb over ten
Speaker 1: to eighteen possibly are not sustainable. They're not sustainable in
Speaker 1: the communities across the border that have to absorb this
Speaker 1: population Catholic charities. It's not sustainable for the Border Patrol
Speaker 1: and ICE to be able to track these people and
Speaker 1: keep up with these people, and it's not sustainable politically
Speaker 1: for the Biden administs. Agree there's a crisis at the
Speaker 1: border right now. Yes, absolutely, yeah, there is a crisis
Speaker 1: at the border, and Democrats are about to make it
Speaker 1: a whole lot worse. On top of the already massive
Speaker 1: numbers of migrants that border patrol agents are already dealing
Speaker 1: with every day, the brave men and women who protect
Speaker 1: our border are now fearing the worst. Once the Biden
Speaker 1: administration ends Title forty two nex month, the border agents
Speaker 1: are bracing for an enormous surge of up to eighteen
Speaker 1: thousand migrant encounters per day, that's what they're projecting. These
Speaker 1: same agents have been furious with the White House the
Speaker 1: policies that had to follow since Biden took office. Take
Speaker 1: a look back at the leaked footage from January when
Speaker 1: border agents, who were angry obviously at the situation, lashed
Speaker 1: out at DHS Secretary Mayorcas and Border Patrol Chief I
Speaker 1: will Ortiz. We don't we stayed focused. We continue to
Speaker 1: do the job on the mission we stigned up for.
Speaker 1: We all signed up dependent constitution I order. You say
Speaker 1: you're bargner in the policies, and that's what she's got left.
Speaker 1: You just say, we're evil to triumph for good men
Speaker 1: of government. Exactly what's happening? Good men are doing nothing.
Speaker 1: You're allowing the allowing illegal aliens to be dropped off
Speaker 1: in these communities. You can truth the power there. So
Speaker 1: what are the agents dealing with right now? What's the
Speaker 1: reality on the ground down in our southern border. Let's
Speaker 1: ask Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council, Chris Cabrera. Chris,
Speaker 1: thanks so much, Hey, thank you for having me. So
Speaker 1: tell us what is before we get to what happens
Speaker 1: after Title forty two. What is the day to day
Speaker 1: reality right now as you're seeing it as your agents,
Speaker 1: your fellow agents are seeing it on the US Mexico boarder.
Speaker 1: What kind of crossing levels are you seeing? What kind
Speaker 1: of lawlessness is underway? Tell us what's going on? And
Speaker 1: we're seeing about eight eight to nine thousand crossing per
Speaker 1: day nationwide. Just in my small area down here, we're
Speaker 1: well over a thousand per day, our manpower is cut
Speaker 1: to a skeleton crew out in the field. We start
Speaker 1: off the day with at least fifty percent of our
Speaker 1: agents inside process, and the number just gets whittled down
Speaker 1: as the day goes on, getting pulled out of the
Speaker 1: field for different duties. We have tons of guidaways, people
Speaker 1: that are coming in that we don't have the manpower
Speaker 1: to free up to go after them because we're so
Speaker 1: busy dealing with the people turning themselves in and the
Speaker 1: other traffic that's coming away trying to avoid us. And
Speaker 1: what does this mean for border patrol in terms of
Speaker 1: just the manpower and the missions beyond the humanitarian mission, right,
Speaker 1: which is what involves Border patrol agents going to hospitals
Speaker 1: to take care of illegals who have crossed over and
Speaker 1: make sure that everyone's healthy and safe, etc. But there's
Speaker 1: a national security mission, a sovereignty rule of law mission,
Speaker 1: and a drug interdiction mission. What does it mean when
Speaker 1: you've got eight thousand illegals crossing in every day for
Speaker 1: all those other pieces, and you know so much is
Speaker 1: getting away from us. We're unsure what it is or
Speaker 1: who it is, what they're bringing with them, what kind
Speaker 1: of you know, crimes they've committed in their home country,
Speaker 1: much less in our country. We're going to go out
Speaker 1: there and do the best we can every day. It's
Speaker 1: up to the folks in DC, whether it's headquarters of
Speaker 1: Border Patrol or DHS, to do their part making sure
Speaker 1: that that we have the stuff to do our job
Speaker 1: and stop hindering us down with nonsense policies and nonsense
Speaker 1: and directives. When we have a job to do, just
Speaker 1: let us go out there and do our job. Now,
Speaker 1: let's talk about what happens when Title forty two goes away.
Speaker 1: The bid administration has already stated that it will happen
Speaker 1: in late May. What are the projections that Border Patrol
Speaker 1: and DHS personnel are making for how many crossings there
Speaker 1: will be. What kind of wave of illegal migration are
Speaker 1: you expecting. You know, as I said earlier, we're dealing
Speaker 1: with about eight thousand a day nationwide, which is well
Speaker 1: above our capacity. We've been told to expect eighteen to
Speaker 1: nineteen thousand per day. One Title forty two is lifted,
Speaker 1: the words out worldwide that this is the place to
Speaker 1: come and it's easy to get in. So people are
Speaker 1: coming to the greatest nation on the face of this earth.
Speaker 1: They're not okay in our laws, and why should they
Speaker 1: were not going to enforce them anyway. So once Title
Speaker 1: forty two, which is this CDC authority that had allowed
Speaker 1: at least some illegal migrants to be quickly expelled from
Speaker 1: the country and put back by the way, would they
Speaker 1: be repatriot just across the border into Mexico or that
Speaker 1: would they be sent to under Title forty two Chris
Speaker 1: to their country of origin. How does that work? Well,
Speaker 1: now they were going back without the Remain in Mexico
Speaker 1: in placed Remain in Mexico program in place. They were
Speaker 1: being sent back to their home country if their home
Speaker 1: country would take them, and not all the home countries
Speaker 1: like Honduras would take these people back, so we'd get
Speaker 1: stuck with them. So you know that that's one of
Speaker 1: the kickers there. And then there's so many others that
Speaker 1: are they have temporary protective status, like those from Nicaragua, Columbia, Venezuela,
Speaker 1: so they're not amenable to Title forty two anyway, and
Speaker 1: so it's just kind of it's just kind of thrown together.
Speaker 1: They're they're not really they're not even obeying their own
Speaker 1: rules that they've come up with, and it's just a
Speaker 1: mess right now. And um, if if our folks at
Speaker 1: the top can't get the job done, they need to
Speaker 1: bring somebody in that that'll do it. And I don't
Speaker 1: think Secretary of my workis has the stomach for doing
Speaker 1: this job. What will the intake procedure likely be. Let
Speaker 1: let's say it's we're going to fast forward here for
Speaker 1: a second, Chris to June, and you're at eighteen thousand
Speaker 1: illegal crossings a day. Well, based on the resources that
Speaker 1: can be a raid to deal with this, what kind
Speaker 1: of vetting, processing and procedure would be in place for
Speaker 1: those who walk over across the West Mexico border illegally.
Speaker 1: What will happen? You know, we we've seen it happen
Speaker 1: before in the summertime last summer where they did an
Speaker 1: alternative to detention. So we weren't even giving them a
Speaker 1: notice to appear or coordinate or anything. We were just
Speaker 1: releasing them, telling them they needed to make their their
Speaker 1: own arrangements to to see an immigration judge or to
Speaker 1: get to an ICE agent and declare themselves. And so
Speaker 1: you can expect people to be instead of streamline the processing,
Speaker 1: it's going to be streamlined in the release, just so
Speaker 1: we can get them out of the out of our
Speaker 1: facility as quickly as possible to make room for the
Speaker 1: next wave that's coming in. So this tell me more
Speaker 1: about this alternative to detention is that it sounds like
Speaker 1: people come into the country illegally and then it's almost
Speaker 1: like they're on the honor system to put themselves in
Speaker 1: the system, the immigration system, so to speak, somewhere to
Speaker 1: either claim asylum or whatever the process. Maybe is that right?
Speaker 1: I mean, is there how can there be any tracking
Speaker 1: under alternative to detention system? Yeah, you know, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what it is. It's the honor system. And to give
Speaker 1: to put somebody on our system who just broke the
Speaker 1: law by crossing in our country illegally is kind of outrageous.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, we're giving them some
Speaker 1: brand new telephone so that they can keep in touch
Speaker 1: with us, and usually those just end up in the
Speaker 1: trash before they get on the bus to get out
Speaker 1: of town. Wow, so we give them free phones too.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I think a lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: about that. You know, here was back in January earlier
Speaker 1: this year, you mentioned mayorkas the DHS chief. Here he
Speaker 1: is saying that the immigration problem illegal crossing is worse
Speaker 1: than it has been probably ever watched this one. We
Speaker 1: should have enough personnel to take care of the southern
Speaker 1: and that's that's a solution, and that hasn't to do
Speaker 1: the case. Look, it's worse now, frankly, has been at
Speaker 1: least one years, if not ever. If it was the
Speaker 1: worst probably ever, as he says there that it was
Speaker 1: in January in terms of just illegal crossings and the
Speaker 1: flow that's going around our legal immigration system, Chris, is
Speaker 1: it going to be even worse than the worst ever
Speaker 1: once Title forty two passes this summer and going forward, Oh,
Speaker 1: most definitely. And you know that's what that's what they
Speaker 1: get for putting a yes man in a position like this.
Speaker 1: He's not standing up for his guys, he's not standing
Speaker 1: up for his department. He's just doing whatever the administration
Speaker 1: tells him to do. And you know, what's the point
Speaker 1: of having somebody in there if they're not going to
Speaker 1: do their job. Press appreciate the work you do and
Speaker 1: also for bringing us some ground truth and your expertise here.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, all right, thank you, scent them interm
Speaker 1: elections are right around the corner, and the President's immigration
Speaker 1: policies are likely to cost him at the polls. CEO
Speaker 1: of American Majority Ned Ryan is coming up next to
Speaker 1: explain how Biden's border crisis is going to be a
Speaker 1: big problem in November. Stay with US as a southern
Speaker 1: border braces for a massive influx of migrants. Most voters
Speaker 1: are not supportive of President Biden's decision to lift Title
Speaker 1: forty two next month. The controversial policy was an acted
Speaker 1: under former President Donald Trump and has been used more
Speaker 1: than one point seven million times to remove people who
Speaker 1: are in the country illegally under a CDC authority. So
Speaker 1: why are they lifting it? Now? Let's get into this
Speaker 1: with the CEO of American Majority Ned Ryan. Ned, thanks
Speaker 1: so much, absolutely but good to be with you. So
Speaker 1: let's just start with this. The polling, which usually I
Speaker 1: feel like Democrats, especially in a midterm election, pay very
Speaker 1: close attention to the Poland Show's most voters oppose Biden's
Speaker 1: decision to remove Title forty two fifty six percent of
Speaker 1: all voters, eighty eight percent of Republicans, of course, but
Speaker 1: even twenty seven percent of Democrats. So what's the move here?
Speaker 1: What are the politics of this decision from the Democrat side, Well,
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting to see the divide here. You've
Speaker 1: got the Biden administration help bent on doing this the
Speaker 1: end of May and shockingly bought Speaking of the midterms,
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that are on the ballot,
Speaker 1: like rathbel Warnock of Georgia are fighting that they're fighting
Speaker 1: the Biden administration. They do not want to see them
Speaker 1: lift the title forty two. So it's kind of this
Speaker 1: really interesting division between the Democratic Party depending on whether
Speaker 1: you're on the ballot this November. So there are Democrats
Speaker 1: that are fully aware as their political lives are in danger,
Speaker 1: that this could be devastating to their political careers. Right,
Speaker 1: So there are Senate Democrats and this is not just
Speaker 1: Republicans who are saying this is that's right, a big
Speaker 1: issue here. But I mean, you'd wonder what do they
Speaker 1: expect to happen. I mean, if the Biden administration seems
Speaker 1: entirely and so far it seems entirely unwilling to enforce
Speaker 1: our immigration laws, they're not doing anything to stop the
Speaker 1: massive flow. If anything, this is going to make the
Speaker 1: flow even bigger of labels into the country. Don't Democrats
Speaker 1: have to know that this is going to be a
Speaker 1: huge liability for them. I mean, what's what's the play here, Like,
Speaker 1: why is it just because the Biden regime can't betray
Speaker 1: the base on this that wants you know, open borders
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. What's the situation. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I keep on going back to the their hell bend.
Speaker 1: These are these are not blugs. These are features, whether
Speaker 1: it's energy policy, whether it's immigration pols. Let's not forget bluged.
Speaker 1: I mean, in the first hundred days, Biden had over
Speaker 1: ninety four executive orders that dealt with weakening our immigration system,
Speaker 1: and this is just a continuation of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's pretty staggering when you think about what they are
Speaker 1: up to. And let's be honest, buck, what they are
Speaker 1: doing is they want to see massive rapid demographic chain
Speaker 1: or political gain and they are hell bamped one doing this.
Speaker 1: And so those in the short term that realize this
Speaker 1: will be politically devastating are saying, hey, let's not do this,
Speaker 1: But the Biden administration and the base of the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party want to continue on because they think that this
Speaker 1: is a long term bet that will give them more
Speaker 1: political power. So, yeah, when you see three hundred thousand
Speaker 1: getaways in fisical year twenty twenty two in which illegals
Speaker 1: have successfully evaded the border patrol, and now they're saying
Speaker 1: that we might be seeing upwards of eighteen thousand a
Speaker 1: day in a month, would exceed the population of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: They're doing it for a one for one reason, Buck,
Speaker 1: it's in hopes of having more political power. It's remarkable
Speaker 1: to watch this play out. What do you think the
Speaker 1: messaging is going to be? I mean, how is Jensaki
Speaker 1: going to get up there, assuming she hasn't taken her
Speaker 1: job MSNBC yet, that's apparently waiting for no surprise there.
Speaker 1: How is Jensaki going to try to message the situation?
Speaker 1: If the number goes to eighteen thousand apprehensions a day,
Speaker 1: My contacts at border patrols say, and we talked to
Speaker 1: one of them on the show, ned, that's going to
Speaker 1: completely overwhelm the system. I mean, that is just like
Speaker 1: a tidal wave going through the factory and shutting down
Speaker 1: all the machinery, Like it's just not going to be possible. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: that is the point though, I mean, that is the point,
Speaker 1: Buck of what they're doing with all of their policies
Speaker 1: and basically not basically but going out of their way
Speaker 1: in overtly weakening our immigration system and our southern border.
Speaker 1: There really is no way to spend this, and that's
Speaker 1: again why one of the top issues behind inflation is
Speaker 1: absolutely immigration. Not only in the mid terms, but in
Speaker 1: the presidential of twenty twenty four, the American people are
Speaker 1: beginning to really truly understand with rapid demographic change, but
Speaker 1: also more fuck they realize they're gonna be they're putting
Speaker 1: the bill for this. Not only are they the bill
Speaker 1: for what's taking place, this humanitarian crisis, but they are
Speaker 1: fully aware that a lot of these who are coming
Speaker 1: in illegally will find their ways onto our social welfare programs.
Speaker 1: It will increase our tax burden. We will be paying
Speaker 1: for this not only the short term but the long term.
Speaker 1: And the American people are saying we've had enough. And
Speaker 1: if we actually had real political courage, and I would argue,
Speaker 1: especially with the Republican Party and saying we're going to
Speaker 1: actually end this and we're going to solve the border crisis,
Speaker 1: I think we could actually do this very quickly. I
Speaker 1: just talked to President Trump, He's like, you know, if
Speaker 1: we can get back into PowerNet, we can complete the
Speaker 1: southern border wall in a matter of not months and months,
Speaker 1: but even just weeks and weeks, and be able to
Speaker 1: secure this and say we're done here, and we do
Speaker 1: not have a constitutional obligation in any way to continue on.
Speaker 1: In fact, I would argue this is deeply unconstitutional and
Speaker 1: against the interests of the American people, in the American taxpayer.
Speaker 1: At some point, you would hope thought that our elected
Speaker 1: representatives would actually stand up and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: we're going to actually prioritize the interests of the American people,
Speaker 1: the American taxpayer, and what is taking place on the
Speaker 1: southern border has nothing to do with any of those.
Speaker 1: Can you just put it in context for us NET,
Speaker 1: your guy who watches the polls and the political realities
Speaker 1: very closely. Here, immigration is not something that you see
Speaker 1: the certainly the Democrat media spend much time on these days.
Speaker 1: Illegal immigration specifically, it's what we're talking about here, acrossing
Speaker 1: the border without without actual permission, without you know, without
Speaker 1: doing so, in violation of federal law. What are the
Speaker 1: polls show us about how much the American people going
Speaker 1: into the midterm election. Care about illegal immigration as an issue, Oh,
Speaker 1: I would say it's still one of the top three
Speaker 1: issues when when you talk with a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the base, that's what American majority does. Obviously, inflation
Speaker 1: is a huge issue. Election integrity is another one, but
Speaker 1: immigration is as well. I mean, that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons Donald Trump got elected, and I think it's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons you're going to see among many one
Speaker 1: of the Republicans take back to the majority in the
Speaker 1: House and probably in the Senate, and I think you're
Speaker 1: going to have Donald Trump probably position pretty well to
Speaker 1: win in twenty twenty four off immigration issue because a
Speaker 1: lot of the American people are realizing what is taking
Speaker 1: place as a complete and uttered disaster for this country
Speaker 1: and it's time that we actually do something and say,
Speaker 1: you know what it actually means something when you say
Speaker 1: we're a sovereign nation if we actually have enforceable borders,
Speaker 1: and when we don't have enforceable borders, I think it
Speaker 1: calls in the question one of the fundamental things, are
Speaker 1: we truly a sovereign nation? And I would say, right now, Buck,
Speaker 1: that's a serious question marked for a lot of the
Speaker 1: American people. Some states are suing Biden over the ending
Speaker 1: of Title forty two. Arizona, Louisiana, Missouri, and the Soup
Speaker 1: challenges an imminent mad made self inflicted calamity, the abrupt
Speaker 1: elimination of the only safety valve preventing the administration disasters
Speaker 1: border policies from devolving into an unmitigated chaos and catastrophe.
Speaker 1: We want to stop the Biden administration from sending Title
Speaker 1: forty two because it may be one of the most
Speaker 1: bone headed decisions of this administration. Those are the attorneys
Speaker 1: general of Arizona, Louisiana, Missouri. I spoke to Missouri ag today.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's good messaging. Is this going to help? Well,
Speaker 1: it would help if you had more than just three.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's dozens of Republican attorney generals around the country,
Speaker 1: and buck we know from what the Biden administration is doing.
Speaker 1: This isn't just about the border states. They're literally taking
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants and shipping them off into various parts of
Speaker 1: the country. The dozens of Republican attorney generals should also
Speaker 1: be a part of this, and quite frankly, the twenty
Speaker 1: six twenty seven Republican governors should also be a part
Speaker 1: of this and until they actually come together and build
Speaker 1: a coalition, have some real force. I mean three, it's nice.
Speaker 1: It should be dozens, and that's a shame that we
Speaker 1: don't have dozens actually stigning onto this need. Always good
Speaker 1: to see you, my friend. Thanks for making the time.
Speaker 1: Thanks Bud. That's all the time we have for this
Speaker 1: special edition of Hold the Line. Like to thank my
Speaker 1: guest Jessica Vaughan, Chris Cabrera, and Ned Ryan for sharing
Speaker 1: their insights with us. The O'Riley update is coming next
Speaker 1: Shields High