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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Heay, we we are live from Detroit.

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Speaker 4: We are right by Pistons Land where today is the

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Speaker 4: first day of early voting in Detroit. Not to be

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Speaker 4: mistaken for all of Michigan, which begins their early voting

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Speaker 4: process next Saturday. But we are thrilled to be here

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Speaker 4: for an incredible rally that's just down the way, uh

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Speaker 4: with Pistons Land.

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Speaker 5: Detroit Pistons will be there.

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Speaker 4: Several acts including Little Baby, will be performing today and

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Speaker 4: we are bringing the best in the brightest of Detroit

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Speaker 4: to you here today.

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Speaker 5: I'm here with Andrew Gilliman, Tippy.

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Speaker 4: Cross, my co host Native Lamb pot Well.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, do people realize there's a little

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Speaker 1: sports knowledge for you folks. The NBA Pistons are known

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Speaker 1: as the bad Boys of the NBA. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they're still known as that, but they were at

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Speaker 1: one point. So I'm honored to be here in Detroit

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Speaker 1: and we all can I also give a quick shout out.

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Speaker 1: We have lovely We asked you guys for recommendations on

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Speaker 1: where to eat and we had a lovely black on

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Speaker 1: New last night.

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Speaker 6: It was delicious.

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Speaker 5: Without me, I had a headache.

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Speaker 1: Angela was what she was, so she was doing all

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Speaker 1: this stuff, so she had a headache. But we had

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Speaker 1: shout out to Savannah Blue for accommodating.

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Speaker 6: Was delicious.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And we're also joined by a couple of Detroits. You're

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Speaker 6: welcome home, Yeah, welcome home.

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Speaker 4: And we also have been joined by someone who has

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Speaker 4: the key to the city House, the real key, open

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Speaker 4: doors literally, the legendary Detroit City Council president. Her name

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Speaker 4: is Mary Sheffield, and she's joining us.

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Speaker 7: Right as we say what Welcome to Detroit. Glad to

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Speaker 7: have you all here.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you do. You have this thing?

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Speaker 7: I like that we got swagging yea yeah.

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Speaker 6: Also carry blade.

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Speaker 5: Non violent practice. Mary.

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you, this is the first day

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Speaker 4: of early here in Detroit.

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Speaker 5: How are you feeling about everything? What are you seeing?

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Speaker 7: You know, we're seeing excitement, We're seeing momentum. There is

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Speaker 7: some contrast here. I mean just yesterday there was some

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Speaker 7: you know, high ranking African American influencers in Detroit who

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Speaker 7: were at a Trump rally, and so I think there's

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Speaker 7: just a lot of healthy dialogue that's taken place. We

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Speaker 7: know that Michigan and particularly Detroit is a battleground city

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Speaker 7: and state and that the role to the White House

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Speaker 7: comes through Detroit specifically. So I think people are a

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Speaker 7: big anxious, nervous, optimistic, but knowing that it's going to

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Speaker 7: be a tight race. And so when Trump lasts one

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Speaker 7: last time, he literally won by two votes per precinct.

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Speaker 7: That's how tight it was. So we really want to

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Speaker 7: hone in that every single vote matters in this election,

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Speaker 7: every sing vote.

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Speaker 6: Can you tell me what you said? A healthy dialogue

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Speaker 6: has been taking place in light of Yeah, some folks

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Speaker 6: choosing the back Trump in the community, tell us what that?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 7: I just think that traditionally people who have not been

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Speaker 7: a part of the political process are more engaged now

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Speaker 7: And I think having a healthy debate is always productive

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Speaker 7: and necessary now.

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Speaker 5: Whether or not where it lands.

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Speaker 7: I believe that everyone needs to be on one side

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Speaker 7: in this race regardless. I mean, our democracy is at

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Speaker 7: stake in this election, and I think the progress that

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Speaker 7: It really takes place in that White House, and so

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Speaker 7: what I just think seeing different types of influencers, rappers,

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Speaker 7: and I think that that's healthy as well. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 7: curious early voting begins in Detroit earlier than it does

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Speaker 7: for the rest of the state. Why is that, Well,

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Speaker 7: we've made it an easy access to vote in Michigan.

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Speaker 7: We want people to have no excuses whatsoever to be

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Speaker 7: there was a concerted effort years ago to make sure

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Speaker 7: Clerk has been phenomenal to make sure that there's absolutely

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Speaker 7: no excuses. Two voting polls, voting centers in each council district,

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Speaker 7: we can. Traditionally in Detroit we have not had the

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Speaker 1: Which is so key in this election, because, as people know,

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Speaker 1: Detroit is one of the most populous cities when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the black population, particularly in Michigan. So I'm

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Speaker 1: lovely lovely to hear that.

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you to and I do want

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Speaker 4: to acknowledge the city clerk as well as the deputy

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Speaker 4: City Clerk, Andre Gilbert, who was so instrumental and ensuring

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Speaker 4: that we were able to be here. I also want

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Speaker 4: to shout out the hotel who's patio were using. We're

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Speaker 4: at the Hotel Saint Regis and the owner, Crystals, has

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Speaker 4: been magnificent. But just to go back to what you

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Speaker 4: were saying about healthy dialogue, I think we've had like

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Speaker 4: these very heated debates on the podcast about when is

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Speaker 4: it time to cut off the conversation? Should you be

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Speaker 4: cutting off the conversation? Have you been in any conversation?

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Speaker 4: But we got to be here. I believe that's a

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Speaker 4: But I was gonna ask you, Mary, what types of

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Speaker 4: conversions have you seen from people who said they're undecided,

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Speaker 5: Who have shifted?

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Speaker 4: Have you been engaged in any conversations I have if

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Speaker 4: even it might happen, I mean to people that I

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Speaker 4: know most definitely. I think the more that we educate

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Speaker 4: and the more that we make those connections, the correlation

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Speaker 4: between your quality of life, your everyday living, in your vote,

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Speaker 4: the easier it is, the better it is. So yes,

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Speaker 4: I've had those conversations where people have shifted from you know,

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Speaker 4: what was at stake. And so I think again, those

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Speaker 4: what is truly at stake, for sure.

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Speaker 3: So so him not wanting to do business with black folks,

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Speaker 3: letting them working as corporation, not not not letting them

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Speaker 3: stay in his accommodations when they can control it, not

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Speaker 3: our humanity in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 6: I have it. I do have a difficult time. I'm

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Speaker 6: probably the most open between the three of us of talking.

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Speaker 6: She don't suffer fools, but I just, I just I'm

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Speaker 6: having a hard time having conversations that grow and evolve

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Speaker 6: with folks who start off jump not recognizing the fact

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Speaker 6: this man don't like you as a person, and therefore

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Speaker 6: what could he do for you?

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Speaker 1: Even talking about Detroit, to have these high profiles right

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Speaker 1: join him, it's like he bought you cheap, bro.

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Speaker 4: If you have seen people transition from supporting him after

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Speaker 4: what he said about Detroit.

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Speaker 7: So not necessarily. And I think some of the same

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Speaker 7: individuals who we know who were out taking pictures with Trump,

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Speaker 7: I think they've been kind of silent still on who

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Speaker 7: I know Kamala was here recently. She had a radio

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Speaker 7: fine with Charlemagne A God. I'm not sure if some

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 7: So I think we just we have to understand the

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Speaker 7: importance of that this is not a game time. It's

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Speaker 7: not a time for a joke, and so it's just

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Speaker 7: important that we have those conversations.

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Speaker 5: And when Trump was just.

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Speaker 7: Here, he disrespected Detroit in front of Detroit, of course,

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Speaker 7: but also we had the business leaders of this embracing

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Speaker 7: hisself time and time again, And I just think that Detroit,

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Speaker 7: we have to get up, we have to show up,

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Speaker 6: I agree with that. I also and I wonder to

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Speaker 6: what extent you experienced this, But black men are the

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Speaker 6: second highest demographic behind the Democratic nominee historically since our

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Speaker 6: conversion to the Democratic Party. Are there economic messages that

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Speaker 6: you think Democrats have to do a better job at

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Speaker 6: communicating that if we hear it, it sinks in for instance,

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Speaker 6: the Grand Forgiveness. Does that resonate or too little, too late?

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Speaker 7: I think it was an opportunity to let them know

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Speaker 7: we have to also message black men as well too,

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Speaker 7: So I think having that initiative around economic empowerment was big.

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Speaker 7: Whether it was two late or not, at least she tried.

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Speaker 7: At least she tried to say that I hear you

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Speaker 7: and we're going to address you all as well.

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Speaker 6: It also should be noted because I think you made

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Speaker 6: a right point to have an agenda this She may

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Speaker 6: be the first president certainly that I can remember, who

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Speaker 6: have ever delivered an agenda that is specifically targeted toward

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Speaker 6: black folk. Yes, and for candidates who say, because this

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Speaker 6: morning I heard a Trump's surgu and say that their

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 6: Well, when the country is impacted equally by what black

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Speaker 6: is included in this agenda. But until that happens, it's

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Speaker 7: Saying, we know there's not an agenda on the other

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Speaker 7: side for sure, right, not at all?

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Speaker 6: What are your what are your local races? Just local

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Speaker 6: folks who are listening what local races?

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Speaker 7: So we well, I actually will yield to who's she's

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Speaker 7: going to be on the bound coming, but I will say,

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Speaker 7: you know, coming up after the presidential race next year

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Speaker 7: will be an open seat for a lot of the

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Speaker 7: city council local races, the mayor's race, council will be up,

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Speaker 7: and so a lot of shifting will be taking place

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Speaker 7: in the landscape here in Detroit, which is exciting to see.

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Speaker 7: As well. Our current mayor will not be running again

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Speaker 7: and so that seat will be open. And we just

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Speaker 7: know that Detroit, as much as we're growing and progressing,

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Speaker 7: we still have to address some of the social issues

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Speaker 5: Andrew. Do you remember from.

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Speaker 4: Course network that Andrew co founded People for the American Way.

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Speaker 4: Now that's the thing I was going to say, what

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Speaker 4: you know what Andrew built in content with so many

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you so.

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Speaker 5: There's seven of us.

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Speaker 8: Right, we need to have representation at that very important

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Speaker 5: I have a different lens.

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Speaker 6: So much. I'm going to get to the president pro

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Speaker 9: were going to have a walk today to get folks

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Speaker 9: out to vote. We've got a couple of other things going,

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Speaker 9: but we're going to be out next weekend. We're going

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Speaker 9: to be out the weekend after as well. So we're

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Speaker 9: going to keep on pushing getting our black men in

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Speaker 9: particular engage in this election.

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Speaker 6: I love that you asked the question what are you

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Speaker 6: hearing from the other guy, the other candidate, because when

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Speaker 6: I hear the point, I'm not I haven't heard a plan.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, if you ain't heard one from her. Just

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Speaker 6: listen to him. You've heard him, you ought to. That

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Speaker 6: ought to be enough to help you make up your mind.

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Speaker 6: But I am I'm curious. I heard from the Council

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Speaker 6: president her response to whether or not you feel like

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Speaker 6: the Harris campaign is going far enough with articulating a

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Speaker 6: message that would be resonant with black men. Are there?

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Speaker 6: I'm curious, are there pieces of the plan that you

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Speaker 6: would say either work or don't work? Are there pieces

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Speaker 6: that have been omitted that you think are important for

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Speaker 6: black men to hear in order to make a decision

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Speaker 6: that this is an election that I've got to be

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Speaker 6: involved in because it affects me in my family.

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Speaker 9: So I think we go back again to you can

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Speaker 9: have a plan, and it's on paper, it's online. A

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Speaker 9: certain audience will gravitate towards that. We have got to

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Speaker 9: get out and break it down and make it real

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Speaker 9: simple for folks. How does this plan, this two page,

468
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Speaker 9: three page plan, how does how does it translate to

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Speaker 9: your actual life? And when we're able to do that,

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Speaker 9: now they can see, Oh so wait a minute, I'm

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Speaker 9: able to receive benefits as a result of me being

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Speaker 9: a business owner so it's not just words on a

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Speaker 9: piece of paper by a politician that they don't know.

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Speaker 9: This is now how it's going to transform the lives

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Speaker 9: of you and your family and the city of Detroit

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Speaker 9: as a whole. And once we start doing that. I've

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Speaker 9: been on council now for fifteen years. I'm the old dog,

478
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Speaker 9: as they say, so being on council, part of it

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Speaker 9: is about taking these policies and breaking them down to

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Speaker 9: bite sized chunks so that people can consume them, understand them,

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Speaker 9: and then participate in the process as well.

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Speaker 10: But don't wait every four years.

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Speaker 9: Let's continue to drive those bread crumbs every bit along

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Speaker 9: the way.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that's been part of the challenge, right in

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Speaker 1: some of these conversations, because when you hear people and

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Speaker 1: just like you, like we've had conversations with men of

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Speaker 1: all ages, some socioeconomic backgrounds that are varying, and I

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Speaker 1: find that there is confusion about what branch of the

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Speaker 1: government does, what, who is responsible for what. A part

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Speaker 1: of that I think is I know, my biggest frustration

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Speaker 1: has always been the media. The media tends to it's

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Speaker 1: an incestuous conversation. They throw out these acronyms that people

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Speaker 1: don't know. I remember watching TV and like, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what that is. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: CBO means. They would say the DLJ when I was younger,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is the DJ? You know this is

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Speaker 1: before Google and all that. So I wonder what as

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Speaker 1: you navigate this process, what is the understanding of the

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Speaker 1: constituency here, and how you've been able to bridge that

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Speaker 1: gap and just have basic explainers. There's nothing to be

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Speaker 1: embarrassed about, like you'd rather people be informed as they

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Speaker 1: navigate this space, especially where in local government.

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Speaker 9: So you just hit the nail on the head that

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Speaker 9: don't be ashamed because I was the same way as

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Speaker 9: you were. I had to learn, and even being a

508
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Speaker 9: member of city council elected official, I still am in

509
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Speaker 9: the process of learning what acronyms mean, who does what?

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Speaker 9: It is extremely challenging to understand what district you're in,

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Speaker 9: especially when you talk about from a local level. You

512
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Speaker 9: have a city council district, you have a Wayne County district,

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Speaker 9: you have a state Senate, a state a state House,

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Speaker 9: and then you start talking about the federal levels as well.

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Speaker 10: I go back again.

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Speaker 9: That's why it's so critically important for us, those of

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Speaker 9: us who are in the local level, to make sure

518
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Speaker 9: that we keep that constant contact so that they know

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Speaker 9: this is an executive function, y'all, this is a legislative function.

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Speaker 10: This is what I do, This is what these so

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Speaker 10: and the way.

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Speaker 9: That you approach us is different, and what you're expecting

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Speaker 9: from us has to be different. And what we bring

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Speaker 9: to you has to solidify and satisfy the concerns you

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Speaker 9: have and not just placate you. Because there's a way

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Speaker 9: that you know, politicians, we know how to talk to folks.

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Speaker 9: You know how to smooth talk them and get them

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Speaker 9: in a certain direction just to keep them calm.

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Speaker 10: Only to know.

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Speaker 5: Anymore.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and that's the thing.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of folks who are waking up to it,

533
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Speaker 9: but there but when they wake up, we don't want

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Speaker 9: them to just wake up and take themselves out of

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Speaker 9: the process.

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Speaker 10: We want to wake up and get more engaged and involved.

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Speaker 6: And I know we're going to be transitioned to but justice.

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Speaker 6: I'm in the in the wake of needing folks to

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Speaker 6: be involved in knowing what it is they're voting for.

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Speaker 6: What can you what are the limits of what you

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Speaker 6: can go to when you're trying to convince the voter

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Speaker 6: to consider you. I'm imagining that there's some things that

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Speaker 6: you're not able to say.

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Speaker 8: I can't say much, okay, And what Counselman Tate was saying,

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Speaker 8: it's so true. I mean, some people come up to

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Speaker 8: me and they say, well, what's your criminal justice platform. Well,

547
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Speaker 8: you know, as a justice, you know, you know, I

548
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Speaker 8: deal with the cases that come before me. We try

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Speaker 8: to make the best decisions possible based upon the law

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Speaker 8: and what's the information available to us. And so no,

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Speaker 8: I can't say that I'm for or against a certain issue.

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Speaker 8: We're actually prohibited as judges and justices from from taking

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Speaker 8: stances on positions, and so what I do, and obviously

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Speaker 8: people can go to the website, but I think what

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Speaker 8: I tell people is the important aspects of a justice,

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Speaker 8: which are empathy and compassion and thoughtfulness right adherent to

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Speaker 8: you know, the intention of the legislature. And for me,

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Speaker 8: I always say justice for generations, knowing that the decisions

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Speaker 8: I make today is set a precedent that will affect

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Speaker 8: our children and our children's children and generations to come.

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Speaker 8: And so I think those aspects are important. But that's

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Speaker 8: basically all can.

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Speaker 5: Say, yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 13: Well.

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Speaker 5: We so appreciate you all time today. So thank you

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Speaker 5: all so much. Go get the rest of those votes. Counseling,

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Speaker 5: thank you so much. Justice. We appreciate you all being here.

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Speaker 4: Next up, we have a good friend of ours. I'm

569
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Speaker 4: an honorary rattler. He's a real rattler, and so is she.

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Speaker 4: Her name is Melissa Butler. She is the founder and

571
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Speaker 4: CEO of the lip Bar. Y'all might have seen her.

572
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Speaker 4: They tried to drag her when she went on a

573
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Speaker 4: shark tank and she dragged them right with them.

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Speaker 5: Revenues and all of that, all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: She is on this platform and absolately absolutely yes.

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Speaker 5: I'm wearing I'm wearing my lip Bar products right now.

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Speaker 14: You're always ready to hear you.

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Speaker 8: Good.

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Speaker 6: My wife and she knows.

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Speaker 14: You, yes, she sure does.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate all of the love.

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Speaker 14: I feel like I'm at home right now.

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Speaker 5: Welcome home. You know you are okay.

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Speaker 4: So Melissa, you know we're out here because there's early

585
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Speaker 4: voting starting into Troy. You've got friends and family here.

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Speaker 4: Are you voting today, ma'am?

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Speaker 14: I am going to vote today.

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Speaker 13: I wasn't okay, I was like, no, I want to

589
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Speaker 13: vote on election day, and somebody got me together real quick.

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Speaker 13: They were like, if you are decided, if you know

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Speaker 13: exactly what you're going to do, just go vote and

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Speaker 13: get out of the way, like so that the lines

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Speaker 13: are shorter. And I was like, you know what, You're right,

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Speaker 13: So I will be voting as soon as I leave here.

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Speaker 6: You bring five people, you spend your time.

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Speaker 14: I'll do my best carpooling.

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Speaker 15: Out there.

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Speaker 6: We also you probably saw this, but your big Gretch.

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Speaker 5: Big Gretch, she always.

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Speaker 14: Yes, I'm obsessed with her. But we've we've always done

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Speaker 14: our part.

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Speaker 13: Like I remember in twenty sixteen, we put up a

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Speaker 13: post that'sh like, Merry Christmas to everybody except Donald Trump,

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Speaker 13: and people were pissed and we lost some customers then.

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Speaker 13: But I was like, but if you don't understand the

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Speaker 13: danger that is this man, then you weren't never rocking

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Speaker 13: with us to begin with. And so in twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: we helped people register to vote. We renamed our best

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Speaker 13: seller in the company, it's called Boss Lady. We renamed

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Speaker 13: it Boss Voter. Put a QR code on there to

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Speaker 13: help people register to vote. You know, we're active with

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Speaker 13: the governor, so we're always going to do our part

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Speaker 13: because we are a community based business.

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Speaker 1: I love that one. I just am obsessed. I think

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Speaker 1: you're so beautiful. I love your product, I love your storyline.

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Speaker 1: I was introduced by Boss Lady, but either you are

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Speaker 1: britt Angela. I can't remember, but they said Boss Lady

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Speaker 1: looks good on everybody, so I have Boss Lady to

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Speaker 1: stain the gloss all of it. So I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm curious about you personally and professionally and

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Speaker 1: how those two intersects, because we all saw on the

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Speaker 1: Shark Tank people dismissed your vision, and I think that

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Speaker 1: happened so often with black women, and that there's analogous

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Speaker 1: to this moment in political history as a black woman

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Speaker 1: is poised to lead the country for the first time.

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Speaker 1: There's also the conversation around the economics of it all

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Speaker 1: and entrepreneurship when it comes to black folks. If you

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Speaker 1: are there pieces of Vice President Harris's policy that she's

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Speaker 1: put forth that speak to you as a business owner,

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Speaker 1: a black woman, someone who lives and puts on for Detroit,

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Speaker 1: and someone who's been successful across multi layers and a

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Speaker 1: fam You graduate and a Divine nine.

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Speaker 13: First of all, I am rooting for this woman so

634
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Speaker 13: hard just because I see myself and her like she

635
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Speaker 13: is a member of the Divine Nine.

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Speaker 14: She did go to an HBCU.

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Speaker 13: She is always questioned, and as a black woman in business,

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Speaker 13: you experience that often, and you have to be resilient

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Speaker 13: enough to say, even though you don't see my vision,

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Speaker 13: that doesn't mean that it doesn't remain clear to me.

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Speaker 13: It's so funny because people give him so much credit

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Speaker 13: as it relates to business, even though he is a

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Speaker 13: field businessman. But I'm gonna talk about exactly, but more specifically,

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Speaker 13: I don't think people realize how the form policies have

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Speaker 13: hurt American businesses. Thelipper used to manufacture in the United

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Speaker 13: States of America. We used to manufacture in California. At

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Speaker 13: one point, I left Detroit moved to California because we

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Speaker 13: were doing so much manufacturing.

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Speaker 14: And then we got tariffs twenty six percent.

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Speaker 13: I could no longer afford to keep my products made

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Speaker 13: in California. I moved everything to Taiwan. So the idea

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Speaker 13: that like the Republicans are better for business is a farce.

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Speaker 13: And now with these additional tariffs, that are like insane.

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Speaker 13: One thousand percent two thousand percent like that is not sustainable.

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Speaker 13: It's not good for any business, but particularly black businesses.

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Speaker 13: And we know that black business people hire black people.

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Speaker 13: My team is all women, were like eighty percent black

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Speaker 13: women like that.

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Speaker 14: That's not the reality for most.

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Speaker 13: Small business owners who are not of my complexion.

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Speaker 14: So from a business percent.

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Speaker 13: Respective, I believe that VP Harris like she has what

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Speaker 13: it takes to make sure that that we will thrive

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Speaker 13: next year. I think the Wall Street Journal said that

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Speaker 13: next year, under the other guys, the orange toats policies,

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Speaker 13: we will be in a recession by like mid five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: And we've been sort of like the Lippar certainly because

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Speaker 13: I mean, makeup is not essential. It's something that's fun,

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Speaker 13: it's something that you do, you splurge on. If people

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Speaker 13: have to decide between their groceries or their gas and

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Speaker 13: their makeup, the lipper will be out of business. And

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Speaker 13: so I am fearful of her not getting elected. And frankly,

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Speaker 13: I believe in you know, I believe in her policy

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Speaker 13: around like investing in HBCUs. I believe in her tax

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Speaker 13: cuts for small businesses as opposed to these giant corporations

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Speaker 13: that frankly should be paying taxes. I believe in home ownership.

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Speaker 13: Like Detroit is the blackest city in America. It is

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Speaker 13: seventy eight percent black, and it's changing. It's changing right

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Speaker 13: now as we speak. And the only way that it

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Speaker 13: can remain this like culturally rich place is if we

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Speaker 13: are able to afford to buy homes in our own cities.

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Speaker 14: So I think there's so many things.

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Speaker 13: About her approach that boats well, not just for me,

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Speaker 13: but for the broader American population.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so.

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Speaker 6: Glad you hit on these terrorifts because I wonder as

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Speaker 6: a business owner, if you could speak to make it

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Speaker 6: clear when a business is hit with a tariff, they

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Speaker 6: either eat that cost and end up having to do

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Speaker 6: what you did, which is move a piece of your

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Speaker 6: product line and production out of the United States, or

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Speaker 6: they pass that cost through the cost of the product

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Speaker 6: onto the customer. Do you know of a business that

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Speaker 6: eats the costs, absorbs the increase, and keeps the price

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Speaker 6: the same.

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Speaker 14: It's for the customer, It's impossible.

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Speaker 13: And so if you look, there have been many articles

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Speaker 13: talking about how you know, just the price of everything

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Speaker 13: is rising, it's because of these tariffs. It's because of COVID.

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Speaker 13: It's because of the poor handling of COVID. Like people

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Speaker 13: get upset, they're like shrinkflation. I'm paying the same amount

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Speaker 13: and getting less or I'm paying more for what I

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Speaker 13: used to get. It is impossible, especially for a small

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Speaker 13: business owner. And small businesses are the backbone of this country. Sure,

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Speaker 13: you know, a small business owner cannot eat the cost

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Speaker 13: because we have to pay our people. You know, we

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Speaker 13: actually pay taxes, and then you know, for businesses that

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Speaker 13: are in retail, like everyone wants a cut. So you know,

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Speaker 13: we have tried really hard to not increase prices, and

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Speaker 13: our decision was, unfortunately, to go across the country, go

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Speaker 13: across the world.

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Speaker 5: Rightly, since we love you so much, we know you

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Speaker 5: got to go vote.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna call up you've laid a great trail. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna call up some other business owners to join us now.

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Speaker 4: And one who travels often is a good friend of yours,

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Speaker 4: Jessica Nabango, travel expert, author and entrepreneur. We have Jillian Bradley,

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Speaker 4: the owner of Harper Ray and porschep how CEO of

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Speaker 4: one Detroit Credit Union.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna talk some more about business.

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Speaker 4: We hear from you all out and clear regularly that

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Speaker 4: the economy is at top of mind, whether we're talking

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Speaker 4: about costs of goods, home ownership, tariffs. Melissa just brought

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Speaker 4: tariffs into the conversation, gave us a quick little get

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Speaker 4: down breakdown on economics, and I think it was super

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Speaker 4: helpful to hear that from her. So welcome, ladies, We

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Speaker 4: are so gill. Let me tell you what I love

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Speaker 4: about this panel, and of course about Melissa is joining us.

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Speaker 4: We still know that black women are the fastest growing

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Speaker 4: group of entrepreneurs in this country, and it looks like

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Speaker 4: that holds two.

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Speaker 5: Interesting Yeah, Hi guys, Yes, thank you all so much

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Speaker 5: for being here. You'll have no questions. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I was mesmerized by Jessica because every time I fear,

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Speaker 1: she's has on a beautiful fit.

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Speaker 5: And voting is my blood. John and.

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Speaker 1: Jessica, you have traveled all literally all over the globe,

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Speaker 1: have been to every country in existence, and I'm just curious,

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Speaker 1: from a global perspective, how does the United States look

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Speaker 1: right now on a global scale. Do you imagine, like,

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Speaker 1: are there spaces in the globe where they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we hope Donald Trump is back in, or we please, Lord,

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Speaker 1: let you know Vice President Harris is sent to the presidency,

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Speaker 1: or people indifferent.

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Speaker 16: No, definitely, indifference does not exist globally. I was just

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Speaker 16: in the country of Georgia, which was part of the

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Speaker 16: former Soviet Union, and I can tell you there they

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Speaker 16: are terrified of the idea of Donald Trump getting in.

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Speaker 16: Obviously I am too, because I think what people don't

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Speaker 16: realize is that we could potentially be looking at the

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Speaker 16: reunification of parts of the Soviet Union. Right, we already

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Speaker 16: know he's gonna let putin have Ukraine, but there's other

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Speaker 16: countries in the world that used to be in the

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Speaker 16: Soviet Union that are also afraid. And I think also,

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Speaker 16: I'm gonna take this moment to talk to my Arab

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Speaker 16: American friends. Obviously there's a huge population here, and you know,

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Speaker 16: we have we know exactly where they stand, we know

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Speaker 16: how they feel, we know how horrible the last one

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Speaker 16: year plus, I mean, it's much longer than that, but

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Speaker 16: we know what it's been here, the concerns. But I

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Speaker 16: think at the end of the day, the unfortunate situation

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Speaker 16: we're in is that there are two options.

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Speaker 6: That's right and one option.

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Speaker 16: Sure, the administration has not called for a ceasefire as

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Speaker 16: soon as we'd like to see it. There hasn't been

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Speaker 16: an arms embargo. I do believe confidently that that is

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Speaker 16: coming very soon. But the other option is someone who

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Speaker 16: was in office for less than one year and moved

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Speaker 16: the US embassy to Jerusalem. That is a line that

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Speaker 16: no previous president was willing to cross less than one year.

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Speaker 16: Let's not forget about Jared Kushner, you know like that. Okay,

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Speaker 16: he might be Secretary of State, and so I recogniz

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Speaker 16: that we are between a rock and a hard place,

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Speaker 16: specifically air of Americans. But I you know, this is

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Speaker 16: my individual plea just to say, like, I'd rather fight

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Speaker 16: for Gaza, for the West Bank, for Lebanon under a

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Speaker 16: Harris administration versus Trump because they are looking to turn

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Speaker 16: that into Israeli beachfront property.

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Speaker 5: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 16: So I think, you know, it is very difficult, and

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Speaker 16: I understand it's hard for them to cast that vote,

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Speaker 16: but there's only two options on the ballot. Somebody's gonna win,

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Speaker 16: and there's two people.

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Speaker 5: Yeahound policy.

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Speaker 4: You know, one of other questions I have for you,

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Speaker 4: Porsche as a community bank, a credit union, you are

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Speaker 4: the one that's responsible for lending to members of our

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Speaker 4: community more often than not. Can you talk a little

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Speaker 4: bit about some of the things you're seeing relative to

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Speaker 4: home ownership, small business loans, and the kinds of things

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Speaker 4: that you all are working to ensure parity and access there.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely sooth your micro So I'm.

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Speaker 17: Sorry about that, and so I think those those are

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Speaker 17: the key pillars of this election that's most important to me,

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Speaker 17: especially as not how leading of financial institutions, specifically here

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Speaker 17: in Detroit, where access to capital, entrepreneurship, those are things

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Speaker 17: that we're all taken from us at a point in time,

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Speaker 17: and so now to have those things threatened, to have

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Speaker 17: the institutions that we're putting into place to ensure that

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Speaker 17: we had long term sustainability are now at the top

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Speaker 17: of the chopping block. I think this is the most

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Speaker 17: important time, you know, in Detroit's history. I think this

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Speaker 17: whole rhetoric that came out yesterday about make Detroit great again,

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Speaker 17: you know, which is absolute asonized. I think that's a

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Speaker 17: slapp in the face to all of the entrepreneurs like

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Speaker 17: the Melissa Butler's, the Jillian Bradley's who've invested into this

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Speaker 17: area and fought to make sure that businesses thrive here.

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Speaker 17: And so for all of the people that's putting into

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Speaker 17: the work, you know, having that type of rhetoric, those

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Speaker 17: type of conversations as if we haven't been putting that

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Speaker 17: work in, you know, is insane to me. And so now,

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Speaker 17: as a leader of a fine institution, I'm charged with

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Speaker 17: making sure we continue.

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Speaker 5: To bry access to capital.

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Speaker 17: And so you think of things like interest rates, how

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Speaker 17: the FED controls the environments that we're able to lend to.

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Speaker 17: Those things are even more important because what will happen

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Speaker 17: is those products and services become more restrictive. We don't

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Speaker 17: have a government that's in support of us providing more

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Speaker 17: access to capital, and they give and support to the

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Speaker 17: institutions that do that. We are a CDFI. That's super important.

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Speaker 17: CDFIs are threatened every day with additional restrictions being put

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Speaker 17: into place, and all that does is limit the access

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Speaker 17: that the consumers will have to products and services. As

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Speaker 17: Melissa mentioned, make up things like that aren't essential, but

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Speaker 17: we still want them.

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Speaker 1: What is a CDFI.

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Speaker 17: CDFI is a community development financial institution and so what

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Speaker 17: that means for us is we actually get support from

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Speaker 17: the government to provide funding and access to capital and

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Speaker 17: underserved communities, Detroit being of course one of those, And

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Speaker 17: so it allows us to take additional risks. It allows

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Speaker 17: us to look at things beyond the credit store. It

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Speaker 17: allows us to create products and services that systematically people

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Speaker 17: of color and migrants have been excluded from because things

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Speaker 17: like credit and things like that. So it takes out

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Speaker 17: some of those systematic banking policies that have held us

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Speaker 17: back and allows us to at least have access in

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Speaker 17: ways that we haven't before. And that's why you see

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Speaker 17: things like small businesses driving a lot of that is

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Speaker 17: not being driven by banks, is being driven by CDFI's

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Speaker 17: And when you start thinking about policy, we have to

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Speaker 17: make sure that we're supporting a government that is going

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Speaker 17: to think about those things and how it impacts the

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Speaker 17: bottom line of small businesses if those things are eliminated.

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Speaker 12: I love that.

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Speaker 6: Julian I know is another business owner. Harper k on

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Speaker 6: your own. I'm curious to roper Ray. I'm so sorry,

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Speaker 6: Harper Ray. Yes one, tell our listeners a little bit

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Speaker 6: about Harparay and Man's second, I'd love to know how

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Speaker 6: you feel the administration, how government impacts what you get

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Speaker 6: to do from day to day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: So Harper Ray is a fashion Jury brand marketed directly

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Speaker 18: towards women. Generally, Jury is marketed towards men to buy

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Speaker 18: for women. So that's the difference with us. And it's

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Speaker 18: named after my grandfather. He was actually one of the

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Speaker 18: first black antiseesiologists in the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 5: So definitely some history there.

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Speaker 18: And when am I like, one of the main points

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Speaker 18: that she's made clear that Kamala has made clear is

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Speaker 18: that she wants to give the funding to small business

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Speaker 18: owners like myself. I'm able to employ other black women,

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Speaker 18: I'm able to give back to my community. We do

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Speaker 18: all the type of drives and things like that where

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Speaker 18: we're giving back to shelters all around Detroit. And if

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Speaker 18: I was able to, you know, get capital at the beginning,

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Speaker 18: I would be a lot further, a lot sooner. And

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Speaker 18: you know, we have to support the people that are

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Speaker 18: giving back to us. There's obviously, you know, there's one

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Speaker 18: candidate that has a plan and there's one candidate that doesn't.

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Speaker 5: And that was the concept of a plan, right, concept

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Speaker 5: of a plan.

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Speaker 18: And you know, I think at this stage in the election,

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Speaker 18: if you're still undecided, or if you're you know, teetering

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Speaker 18: that fence, it's like you're making a choice, and I

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00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 18: think things have been very clear.

880
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so really to any of you, or really

881
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 6: all of you, for the black men in your lives

882
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 6: that you get to interact with, I'm curious how those

883
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 6: conversations go. Is it a pro Harris conversation? Is it

884
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 6: a pro Trump? Is it a really none of this

885
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 6: stuff is impacting our lives from day to day, year

886
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 6: to year, and so what does it matter. We were

887
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 6: doing all right during Trump, we did all right during Biden,

888
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 6: and we'll do all right with whoever comes next. Curious

889
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 6: to hear y'all and what that experience has been like,

890
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 6: I would.

891
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 5: Say, I'm sorry, you go first.

892
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 16: So I would just say, fortunately, the men in my

893
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 16: life are supporting Kamala Harris, so I haven't had to

894
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 16: have a lot of difficult conversations. But I will say

895
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 16: I was at one of my best friend's houses recently

896
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 16: and conversation did open up, and there were some people

897
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 16: obviously that I'm not connected to, and I do think

898
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 16: a lot of people because you know, I'm you Gunden,

899
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 16: So I will say, like I don't have a whole

900
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 16: lot of family in the US. My family is definitely

901
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 16: all voting for Kamala. But I think for a lot

902
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 16: of people who do have a lot of family here,

903
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 16: I think we can't make any assumptions about how people

904
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 16: are voting.

905
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 9: You know.

906
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 16: I think it's really important to have the tough conversations.

907
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 5: Even if you just have the.

908
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 16: Text folks because you don't want to talk to them

909
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 16: in person, That's fine, but I think it's really important.

910
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 16: Since we're in Detroit and thinking about the state of Michigan,

911
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 16: you can have those conversations. We still have seventeen days.

912
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 16: The amazing thing about Michigan is that you can register

913
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 16: to vote the day you go and vote. Even on

914
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 16: November fifth, you can register to vote that day, so

915
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 16: have the conversations. It's not too late. They can still

916
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 16: register to vote and vote the way we need them

917
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 16: to vote.

918
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 12: I love that same.

919
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 18: Unluckily for me, all the men in my life are

920
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 18: definitely supporting commonly Harris. But I did have a cousin

921
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 18: who I have a cousin who is a Republican. He

922
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 18: voted for Trump the first time, but he's not doing

923
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 18: so this time, so he did take a lot of

924
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 18: talks and things like that for my family, but he

925
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 18: came to his own conclusion even that, you know, the

926
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 18: state of the world of the United States when Trump

927
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 18: was in office was not you know, was not.

928
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 5: Favorable for anyone.

929
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 18: Almost towards the end, and even when Biden was running,

930
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 18: we were all like, maybe we should just break up,

931
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 18: Maybe we should just I mean, I gues should be

932
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 18: single for.

933
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Speaker 5: President.

934
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Speaker 18: That was a sittingment at the time. So it's like,

935
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Speaker 18: you know, is that a place that we want to

936
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Speaker 18: go back to.

937
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's an easy answer.

938
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

939
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 17: I think my experience is actually much different in both

940
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 17: these ladies. A being a leader in a financial soution

941
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 17: in the underserved community, we have a lot of people

942
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 17: who come in who are just detached, people who really

943
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 17: don't see in a media impact, people who are misinformed,

944
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 17: people who don't really have a true understanding of what

945
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 17: this means to them, things like CDFI funding seen like

946
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 17: affordable healthcare, the Obamacare, things that are on the chopping black.

947
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 17: A lot of them don't resonate that to this election.

948
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Speaker 17: And I am the oldest, I have three younger brothers,

949
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 17: and I really feel they felt a sense of displacement

950
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 17: and not having an identity in either candidate. For some reason,

951
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 17: some black men have fear of Kamala Harris. And I

952
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 17: don't know if it was to your earlier point of

953
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 17: her being a prosecutor and how systematically you know, there

954
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 17: were things that were put in place, but I think

955
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 17: we have to take some accountability there too and say, Okay, hey,

956
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 17: yes she was a prosecutor, but she was prosecuting people

957
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 17: for things that they did wrong, you know, and so

958
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 17: and for her, like there's education, there's inclusiveness. I think

959
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 17: things that now black men are starting to see. I

960
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 17: think the best thing that she did for black men

961
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 17: and started talking directly to them so that they could

962
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 17: really understand how she plans to imback them by strengthening

963
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 17: the African American families, creating a pathway to a middle

964
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 17: class lifestyle for many of them who've been excluded. Education,

965
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 17: as we know, it is one of the biggest things

966
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Speaker 17: that has held us back from wealth. And so now

967
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 17: her putting plans in that in place that will support

968
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 17: those things. Really, I think it's starting to help a

969
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 17: black man identify with why this is a better choice

970
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 17: for them, because to everyone's point, Donald Trump is not

971
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 17: for you, and why are we arguing so much about

972
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 17: why she's for us? No, but he is not, So

973
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 17: I think that just needed to be clear. I really

974
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 17: do like how she started talking directly to black men

975
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 17: so that they can also find place on her, because

976
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 17: SIMI this point, we we black women, we see ourselves. Yeah,

977
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 17: black men did not, and so I think for her

978
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 17: to just start talking to them has really helped transition

979
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 17: a lot of their thinking.

980
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 5: And shut out this plan.

981
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: She was already just I just want our audience to

982
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: know she was already talking to black men. She was

983
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: hosting dinner, she was hosting private conversations. So yeah, absolutely, so.

984
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 4: We really we're so grateful to you Jessica, Jillian and

985
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 4: Porsche for being here with us. We are gonna we're

986
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: gonna go ahead and let you all go. Hopefully you

987
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: all our early voting today as well, So thank you

988
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 4: so much for your time, y'all. Also, uh, next time,

989
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 4: we are gonna talk to the Brothers. The Brothers speak next,

990
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: and we have someone who is a legendary voice in Detroit.

991
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: I don't know why he's outside of the gate. Lo Loo,

992
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: if you can go get Bush Man standing right there.

993
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 4: Bush Man Detroit radio legend yesterday. Yes, oh yes, we

994
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: did talk to radio you know. And then we also

995
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: have Eric Thomas. I'm thrilled to talk to Eric Thomas today.

996
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: He is a legendary entrepreneur, a writer, a strategist, and

997
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 4: storyteller for the city of Detroit.

998
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 5: He also asked a question at the.

999
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: Town hall recently with Kamala Harrison and Charlot Mane the gods.

1000
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 5: I can't wait to hear that feedback. You can go ahead,

1001
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 5: put your head sit on. I'm sorry.

1002
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: I hope we all mess up them and just late honey.

1003
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 13: You.

1004
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: Guys, you you would, he told us day bring up Detroit.

1005
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 10: Yes, at least.

1006
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 4: So you know the thing that that we share in commons.

1007
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: So I met Bushman the other day and aside from

1008
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 4: talking about deer, which we took a little time to

1009
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: talk about some deer.

1010
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 10: I did I was.

1011
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 19: I missed this beautiful shot of some deer this morning.

1012
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 5: You did? You know better than us?

1013
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 12: So I didn't want to go no, no, no.

1014
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: It's not there for us. And if you need to

1015
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 4: turn your mind down you can. But now here's the thing.

1016
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: I met the two of you just a couple of

1017
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 4: days ago at the town hall that Leonard hosted with

1018
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: or Charlotte Mane hosted with Kamala Harris. I want to

1019
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 4: know how you thought the town hall went, bush Man,

1020
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 4: and then I want to come to you, Eric, to

1021
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: see how you what your response was to her question,

1022
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 4: I mean to your question and her answer.

1023
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 5: What did you think was? What got right? Was she

1024
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 5: get wrong? All of that? But Bushman, don't start with you.

1025
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 19: I thought it was amazing. I didn't even know anything

1026
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 19: about it until I was driving into work listening to CNN,

1027
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 19: and that's how.

1028
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 10: I found out.

1029
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 5: Wow.

1030
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 19: Then I called my boss, I'm like, did you know

1031
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 19: that Charlemagne Cu She's like what, Yeah? And this all

1032
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 19: came together and I thought it was amazing. And other

1033
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 19: people obviously thought it was amazing too, because the impressions

1034
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 19: that we've gotten and they're.

1035
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 6: Still growing, yes, and they're still.

1036
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 10: Growing over that.

1037
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 19: And I've gotten so many d ms, so many text messages,

1038
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 19: so many phone calls, so many emails about how did

1039
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 19: this all come about?

1040
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 12: And they thought it looked really really good.

1041
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: Highest rated interview for Kamala Harris so far to date. Eric,

1042
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 4: I want to hear from you and then I'm a

1043
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 4: pivot to my co host.

1044
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 20: I'm deeply amused you just hit my mail with the Leonard.

1045
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 21: But all right, Charlotte, I call them Charlotte.

1046
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 20: I don't know, I'm not.

1047
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 6: No.

1048
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 21: It was an interesting It was interesting because I was

1049
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 21: actually got a shock that I got called into that

1050
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 21: because I'm a bit of a robber rouser. But the

1051
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 21: whole gay right with me, vessels and everybody. So I

1052
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 21: try to bring nuance to these conversations. She said at

1053
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 21: the beginning she was gonna stick tooy talking for words.

1054
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 20: She did. It felt like she I.

1055
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 5: Think she said she was gonna be disciplined.

1056
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 20: She was.

1057
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1058
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 21: I think she fit one of the talking points that

1059
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 21: she had into my question about poverty and how it

1060
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 21: impacted black men, which is fine. One thing that I

1061
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 21: appreciated about Kamala is that she's thoughtful, considerate, and intelligent.

1062
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 21: Right Donald Trum would start talking about dogs, right, he

1063
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 21: would have just veered off the curve.

1064
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 6: It.

1065
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 21: I think it went as well as it could have

1066
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 21: possibly gone. I think it showed her warmth. I think

1067
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 21: it showed her sincerity. I think it showed that she

1068
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 21: had a real understanding and appreciation of the black community,

1069
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 21: which for some reason people are trying to act like

1070
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 21: biracial people don't have and that might be something we

1071
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 21: need to dig into a little bit more. But I

1072
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 21: like Kamala, I don't know if I was super into

1073
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 21: the answer, but I mean, healthcare is a poverty issue, yeah, right,

1074
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 21: and so I think that does fit. I think it

1075
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 21: is important, but I don't think it is a pathway

1076
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 21: out of pop.

1077
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 4: Let me ask you, because you said, and I'm promised

1078
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 4: I'm coming to y'all, but I just had a follow

1079
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 4: on this really quick said you weren't super into the answer.

1080
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: And I think one of the most important things that

1081
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 4: we've all learned touching policy all the time is like

1082
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: it is not a single person sport, is a joint effort.

1083
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: So for example, the black Man Agenda that they rolled

1084
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: out earlier last week, that was put together by a

1085
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 4: whole team of folks, including a black man named Brian

1086
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 4: Nelson who runs her policy shop. I'm curious to know,

1087
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 4: when you say I'm not that into the answer, what

1088
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: are the things that you would have liked to hear

1089
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 4: or you know, if you were advising Kamala Harris's campaign,

1090
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: what would you say you know, Madame Vice President, here

1091
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 4: are some of the things that really need to be

1092
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: included when you're talking about coming from poverty and trying

1093
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: to get folks into the middle class that where they

1094
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: deserve to be.

1095
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 21: So I think it's I'm with you. I've worked in

1096
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Speaker 21: politics and policy for a long time. Yeah, so sometimes

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Speaker 21: you have to keep it a little loose, right, You

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Speaker 21: can't get into the details, you don't have time. I

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00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 21: think talking about if I asked for how do we

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00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 21: move people from.

1101
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 20: Poverty to middle class?

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00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 21: I would love to see stare step measures where we're

1103
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 21: going to be investing right or their parint You was

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00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 21: talking about CDFI's I worked for a CDFI.

1105
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 20: So where are we investing, what geographies are they going?

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00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 21: How does education what we talk about reparations, is there

1107
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 21: reparation for the war on drugs?

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00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 12: Right?

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00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 21: Like, maybe you can't go all the way back to slavery,

1110
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 21: Maybe that's difficult, but we do know all the people

1111
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 21: were impacted by marijuana incarcerations for things you could go

1112
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 21: buy in places that look like Apple stores right now, right,

1113
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 21: And so we know that if you get taken out

1114
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 21: of the workforce for twenty five years, that you are

1115
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 21: going to come at a distinct disadvantage. You're not able

1116
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 21: to vote, you're not able to work certain places. You

1117
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 21: got these boxes that they're trying to ban. So how

1118
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 21: are we looking at that really systemically? And this is

1119
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 21: in saying that all black men have been to prison.

1120
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Speaker 21: I have not, But we do know that black men

1121
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 21: are over criminalized and are impacted by the criminal justice

1122
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 21: system at a higher rate the most. Even I was

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00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 21: pulled out of a car for dancing too much, dressed

1124
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 21: like this, all right, So there are all of these

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00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 21: challenges they see that I would love to see what

1126
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 21: systems are we working actively to invest in and dismantle

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00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 21: to move someone from one place to the next.

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Speaker 20: Those are the sort of things excellent.

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Speaker 1: You talked about liking vice president here is after town hall.

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00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: But I'm really curious, because ratings aside, how many people

1131
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: were moved to vote for her, how many people were

1132
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: moved to be active for her, so less than our

1133
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: personal feelings, I'm curious, since you were in the room,

1134
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: do you feel like it was impactful in terms of

1135
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: changing hearts and minds and more so motivating people to

1136
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: get to the ballot box and cast their vote for her.

1137
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 21: I'm not going to say exactly who it was in

1138
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 21: the room because I let people tell their own stories,

1139
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 21: but I remember one of the people in the room

1140
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 21: said that he was incredibly impressed by how she presented

1141
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 21: and what she presented, as they have met most of

1142
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 21: the presidential candidates, and it's not this idea that like

1143
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 21: everybody's doing the politician thing. It was Look how thoughtful

1144
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 21: that was, Look how well she knows the issues. Sometimes

1145
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 21: it's not even like I want to know that you're

1146
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 21: going to do everything on my side, but I just

1147
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 21: want to know that you.

1148
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 20: Even know what the issue is.

1149
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 21: And Kamala comes across as incredibly educated on what issues

1150
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 21: impact the American people in a way that other candidates

1151
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 21: don't necessarily seem.

1152
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 20: Like they have a full grasp on that or reality.

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00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 5: Were you moved?

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Speaker 19: I energet I posted a video of her when she

1155
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 19: was walking in to the studio, which I typically don't

1156
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 19: like to do stuff like that with politics, because you know,

1157
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 19: I got a state neutral neutral and I definitely don't

1158
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 19: like to go read the contents because they can go

1159
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 19: left to right. There was a lot of positive contents

1160
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 19: of people where their minds had been changed by that

1161
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Speaker 19: town hall.

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Speaker 1: It was impactful, it was very.

1163
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 6: It was I think it was.

1164
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Speaker 1: I think that counts the most. And we have a

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00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: new guest joining us conversation.

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Speaker 6: By Bravo.

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00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: I think their their mic is out, but yeah, why

1168
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Speaker 1: don't you introduce yourself and then we'll rope the convers Uh.

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Speaker 15: Well, support and raised in Detroit. I am a hospitality

1170
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Speaker 15: a nightlight partner, own six venues around from restaurants to

1171
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 15: nightclubs to to lounges, and I'm also a cast member

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Speaker 15: on eleven Marors Detroit. Thank you for now. We just

1173
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 15: we just started that. We just yeah, we'll see second

1174
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 15: season middle mid break and then Huntsville starting up and

1175
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 15: then we're going to start back after that. So, so

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Speaker 15: you interacted a lot of people obviously through the course

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Speaker 15: of promoted for like twenty years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you hear you, you hear it all.

1179
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 5: He could tell us the folks, what's the focus group,

1180
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 5: saying Robin.

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00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 15: That, but so, so I know we're talking about the

1182
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Speaker 15: town hall, so I will say this, Uh, it has

1183
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 15: been a lot of people that that been convoluted by

1184
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 15: the the pandemic of the stimulus funds that they were given.

1185
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 15: I'm glad that she did break it down as to

1186
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 15: it was a Congress that really pushed that. Yes, and uh,

1187
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 15: you know, and with Trump having a signature on the checks,

1188
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 15: it's a lot of people that are thinking that they

1189
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 15: came directly from him. So that's where a lot of

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Speaker 15: the from Detroit side, because Detroit they spend their money,

1191
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 15: you know, they spend their money good.

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Speaker 5: I think the second checks came from.

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Speaker 15: The same person that gave the I mean, you know, yeah.

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00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 6: They came from them. They so of course both x

1195
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 6: came from Democrats. There was a Democrats priorities. The president

1196
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 6: had no agenda to resolve the issue around COVID, and

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00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 6: as we see, over a million Americans died as a

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Speaker 6: result of his misaneling. I hope folks also know that

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Speaker 6: those checks were delayed because weeks earlier month, But they

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00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 6: were delayed because he gave instruction to the Treasury to

1201
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 6: go back and put his name on the line. Now

1202
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 6: our money, US expayers money that he said, go back,

1203
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 6: put my name on the bottom, and then you send

1204
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 6: those checks out. Donald Trump knew something that we clearly

1205
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 6: didn't have appreciation for at that time, and it's marketing.

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Speaker 21: Don Trump marketing all that he can do. He can't

1207
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 21: run businesses. He can just do marketing.

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Speaker 6: You can run them into the ground, those businesses. But

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00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 6: you're right.

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Speaker 20: But until he finds out that they don't nothing.

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Speaker 5: Work, I feel like you could run circles around him

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Speaker 5: my marketing.

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Speaker 20: I just want to do the debate.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious. So the checks went a long way with folks.

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Speaker 6: But when we're not in the the heat of an

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00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 6: election and to the extent that government or whatever happens

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00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 6: in people's lives and who they blame, do you get

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00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 6: the sense that folks make a real connection between what

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00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 6: I do every day to make money, a living for

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00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 6: my family, for myself, so on and so forth. They

1221
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 6: make that connection between how it impacts their lives and

1222
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 6: what the role of the government is in that.

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Speaker 15: So I feel like, look at the town hall of Iceword,

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Speaker 15: Vezzo's great rapper here. He did say that, I guess

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00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 15: in his sense he said that sometimes they feel like

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00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 15: we get the attention right around election time. I do

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00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 15: feel like that things are being passed and pushed all

1228
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 15: in between that timeframe. And I'm glad that it was

1229
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 15: the uh. I'm glad that she actually, you know, answer

1230
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 15: to that but I do feel like we don't look

1231
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 15: for it intelection time comes, if it really you know,

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00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 15: it's been a lot. It's a lot of bills that pass,

1233
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 15: a lot of things that pushed a lot of grants.

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00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 15: But I feel a lot of the people in my demographic,

1235
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 15: we don't look for it intil election time comes. It's

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00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 15: not a three years or two years into the election,

1237
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 15: I mean two years into after the election is over,

1238
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 15: still saying I wonder what's new coming up this month

1239
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 15: by Congress? I wonder. So I feel like it's really

1240
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 15: on us, you know, that they make it more present.

1241
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 15: They're an election time, but it's always present. We just

1242
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 15: don't look for you know, and that falls on us

1243
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 15: as a community, and it falls the you know, the

1244
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 15: US is the guys that have the verbal front, you know,

1245
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 15: a platform to be able to say, I mean, we

1246
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 15: need to probably say more. Hey, guys, two years in

1247
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 15: it's you know, twenty twenty two, this is a new

1248
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 15: thing in Congress if you guys, you know, and I

1249
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 15: feel like that's really a community issue.

1250
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 5: You know, you guys are making it.

1251
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 19: I was going to say something sometimes too, with the

1252
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 19: way the world is, especially in twenty twenty four. If

1253
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 19: we're not seeing it on the gram, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, x,

1254
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 19: whatever you want to call it today, it's not happening, right.

1255
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 6: We don't know that it is happening.

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01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 19: And if it's not drama with it, it doesn't get

1257
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 19: pushed out. The algorithm just lets it go there and

1258
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 19: you don't see it. So a lot of people ignore

1259
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 19: what might be happening. We just don't know it.

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01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 6: Y'all. Have had some high profile black entertainer rappers of

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01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 6: late come out for the Trump How is that landing?

1262
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 6: Do you think it's gonna land? Do you think folks

1263
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 6: are being moved shifted by it? Or is it causing

1264
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 6: deeper conversation that's worthwhile having.

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01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 15: I'm starting to see more people giving up now. They're

1266
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 15: tired of arguing, they're tired of I think when you

1267
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 15: saw a couple of them at the last Trump rally,

1268
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 15: you can look into comments and some of some really

1269
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 15: high profile entrepreneurs in the city were like, hey, we're

1270
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 15: over it, We're not here, you know. So I think

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Speaker 15: at this point, you know, it's not really pushing indy

1272
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 15: agendas anymore. It's like some people are going to vote

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01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 15: for what they want to vote for in their own,

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01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 15: you know, whatever reason they have. I have told a

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Speaker 15: lot of my friends that I told one yesterday at

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01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 15: my restaurant. I said, hey, if you're going to post

1277
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 15: some radical stuff, I'm gonna start calling you out now

1278
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 15: if you want to. It's a difference between conservatives, and

1279
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 15: it's differently between radicals, between you know, liberals, between radicals.

1280
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 15: It's the radical stuff that I think, honestly is really

1281
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 15: you know, if you push conservative agendas and that that

1282
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 15: fits to your lifestyle. Who am I to blame you?

1283
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 15: Who am I to tell you you know you're wrong?

1284
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 20: Now?

1285
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 15: It is some things that I feel like you should

1286
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 15: not overlook, you know. But I mean, if you're pushing

1287
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 15: radical you know, if you if you hit one person,

1288
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 15: that person is one person. It's a butterfly effector radicalism

1289
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 15: going on. And I think that's where the issue lies

1290
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 15: with us.

1291
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 4: I wait, I gotta sound because then we got to wrap.

1292
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 4: So fold this into your answer. You two here it

1293
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: both all three of y'all quickly. So if you were

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 4: giving a thirty second I know people are over it,

1295
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 4: but we can't be over it because see we're out

1296
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 4: here because there's early voting starting in Detroit today. So

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01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 4: I hope y'all when you leave here you go down

1298
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 4: over there and vote. But if you are giving a

1299
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 4: closing argument in thirty seconds for why people shouldn't give

1300
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 4: up and why they can't give up and why they

1301
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 4: should go vote, what would you say, besh Man, you

1302
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 4: were going.

1303
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 5: To talk to go first?

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01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 19: Well, I was just gonna say I had a heated,

1305
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 19: not a heated debate about some of the things that

1306
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 19: were said last night our In this debate, they said

1307
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 19: there was more to the story than what we got

1308
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 19: to hear. But what I would say to people in

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01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 19: thirty seconds of wrapping up, you can't complain about it.

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Speaker 19: In January twenty twenty five, if you didn't get out

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Speaker 19: and cast your vote, I love that you got it.

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Speaker 19: You can't, you know, you gotta be about it. You

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Speaker 19: can't just sit around and not do anything. Your vote counts,

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Speaker 19: So get out and vote.

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Speaker 21: I have a whole wide theory about why people are

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Speaker 21: voting for Trump, and but let's do the quick thirty

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Speaker 21: do that too, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't really see how talented you are.

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Speaker 20: Okay, pressure, Okay.

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Speaker 21: I think that Donald Trump exists for a lot of

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01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 21: people as a power fantasy.

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01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 20: It's why people have liked him for a long time.

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01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 20: Is why rappers used.

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01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 21: To include him in his as mean why he became

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 21: an analogy for wealth because he is almost a caricature

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Speaker 21: of what rich people are like, and people will assume

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Speaker 21: they want to be like that. It's why people vote

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01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 21: on tax breaks for they're wealthy, because eventually when I

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Speaker 21: become wealthy. I had a friend say once that all

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Speaker 21: white guys think that they're a rich man in a cocoon,

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Speaker 21: and so they're voting for their future and not their current.

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Speaker 20: And I see that in some of the rappers that

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01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 20: want to be Trump.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 20: If I had to say, why is it important to vote?

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Speaker 21: Though in a city like Detroit, it's important to remember

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01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 21: that local elections matter too, and when you have a

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Speaker 21: through line from local politicians mayor city council up to president.

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Speaker 20: It's why Detroit.

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Speaker 21: Got the American Rescue Plan with eight hundred million dollars.

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01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 21: When you get that is because Mike Duggan had a

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Speaker 21: relationship with Joe Biden. We had the fifth largest amount

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Speaker 21: of money a city got, even though we're not the

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Speaker 21: fifth largest city. And so you want to think about

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01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 21: how the president impacts what your city gets and what

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Speaker 21: resources follow on the through line because they're connected on values.

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Speaker 20: Even if you have apathy towards that person, there.

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Speaker 21: Is a connected thread from the top down to the

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Speaker 21: local leadership, down to the school board and everybody in

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Speaker 21: between that will allow you to get access to things

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01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 21: you need even if the president isn't doing what you want.

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Speaker 6: That is especially with Donald Trumps whole place.

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01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know he got so much top.

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Speaker 15: Hat falling up out of the air now because he

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01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 15: said everything everybody thought. No, but I mean libs without

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01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 15: ad libs too. Yes, yes, we've seen public schools closing here.

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Speaker 15: People think public schools are with the mayor, but no,

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01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 15: they understand it starts with it goes all the way

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Speaker 15: to really to the governor has more power over the

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Speaker 15: public school systems. The governor now is you know, the

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Speaker 15: government from there. So I feel like we're looking at

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Speaker 15: the headlines of two people. But if you trickle down

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01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 15: to what it is, voting does not only pertain to

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01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 15: the headlines. It's a lot of disclaimers in there that

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Speaker 15: affects us. Me as a restaurant owner, me as a

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Speaker 15: you know, business owner. A lot of it's a lot

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Speaker 15: of disclaimers under there that affects us, that affects I mean, cannabis,

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Speaker 15: I mean everything that everything, your lifestyle and locally. It's

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Speaker 15: a lot of things that you have to look for

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Speaker 15: that we don't really push. We're pushing them all in Trump,

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01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 15: but they need to. They need to go in there

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Speaker 15: and if they don't know what they want to vote

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Speaker 15: on the top side, still, it's a lot of things

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Speaker 15: to look for on the bottom side that's going to

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Speaker 15: affect you in you know, in the bottom end. So

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Speaker 15: I mean, so that's that's really the biggest point, you know.

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Speaker 15: I love may end.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much for being here, y'all, pushman,

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Speaker 4: Eric and Bravo.

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Speaker 5: You're grateful for y'all.

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Speaker 6: Thank you. Go vote, y'all.

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna send them snacks to don't worry about that.

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01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 4: Well, you know what the good news is, that's a

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01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 4: perfect transition because right now we have Fatima uh Techo

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Speaker 4: from Detroit's Fresh Roots, who is bringing not just not

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Speaker 4: just snacks, but liquid snacks, liquid wellness and wholeness and

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01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: speaking of being well and whole in addition to the

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Speaker 4: to the juices.

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Speaker 5: She's bringing us.

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Speaker 4: So we can promote this amazing black owned business, Detroit's

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Speaker 4: Fresh Roots. We also have someone to talk to us

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Speaker 4: about how to take care of your mental health during

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Speaker 4: this crazy election season, doctor Rita Walker, who's a clinical psychologist,

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Speaker 4: award winning professor and author of the Unapologetic Guide to

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Speaker 4: Black Mental Health.

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Speaker 5: And that is this book right here, ladies and gents,

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Speaker 5: and calming the chaos.

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Speaker 1: Okay, high ladies, lady, I'm ready for my juice.

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Speaker 22: I have a couple of different kinds, so we can

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01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 22: hear you. Got it around, Harry got better better, Okay,

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01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 22: I think it's falling back.

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Speaker 5: No, no, we hear you.

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01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 22: So if they're all mixed, that's my that you guys

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01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 22: had wanted.

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01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 5: He probably wanted orange juice, cause I want. I couldn't

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01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 5: decide between. I know these are what I order, b

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 5: roots and ballance.

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01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: Wait, is that the one with the mint and the apple?

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01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 5: No, he's got the one with the this.

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 4: And I want and some chunks of mango, lime, ginger,

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01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 4: carrot apple. This is kale, spinach, cellery, cucumber, app a, lemon, lime, ginger.

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Speaker 4: You know what, doctor Rita, I will share one with

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 4: you if you want. Which one you want I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: I'm getting this on balance.

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01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 5: I have this one so much.

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01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna drink a little bit, but not much because

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 4: you guys are sitting here for another hour and I

1418
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 4: really got a peek right now, so just go to wait. Sorry,

1419
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 4: that's the truth, but I'm just gonna take a little

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Speaker 4: swallow in the juice.

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Speaker 5: But talk to us about about this amazing business fresh Roots.

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Speaker 22: So fresh Roots motto is everything is deeply rooted. So

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 22: it's beyond providing the food and the nutrition that comes

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Speaker 22: with it, but also services to help and mental health

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Speaker 22: awareness and health and wellness and overall health and wellness.

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Speaker 5: I can't get this. You got it, We hear you, Okay.

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Speaker 22: So we also do things like pot yoga, We do

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01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 22: health and wellness camps, things like that. So we are

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Speaker 22: located here in Minton, Detroit, and we just opened up

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Speaker 22: our second location in Rochester Health with plans of growth

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01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 22: with hopefully turning it into a franchise. At fresh Roots,

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Speaker 22: not only do we do health and wellness from a

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Speaker 22: physical standpoint, but a mental standpoint as well, so meditations

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Speaker 22: and things like that. We also offer other women on

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01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 22: black home minority owned businesses a place to come and

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 22: have like pop ups, and we don't charge them, we

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01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 22: don't ask nothing of them. We actually do cross promotion

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01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 22: to help build their brand of business as well. So

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01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 22: just being deeply rided in the community, really giving back

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01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 22: more than just great product, but amazing services.

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Speaker 1: And this is delicious. So it's citrus Land and it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also going to have half of Andrews. What

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01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: do you have their refresh.

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01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 5: Got the refresher that's actually my favorite one. How you

1445
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 5: got to keep this one? But I want that one definitely.

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01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 6: Rita, I'd love to hear from you as well. Give

1447
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 6: us the motivation around the title for the book, the

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01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 6: reason for writing in this space, because I know one

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01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 6: thing we could all.

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01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 5: Use a lot more, especially in this election season.

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Speaker 23: Especially in the election season, but just in life, we

1452
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 23: have to be mindful of how we are dealing with

1453
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 23: the things, the stuff that just comes at us. And

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01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 23: we know it's not just you know, financial stress, it's

1455
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 23: family stress, it's job stress. And now we're adding election

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01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 23: stress on top of everything else. And I appreciate I

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 23: picked up balance because we have to be mindful of

1458
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 23: how we're dealing with those things.

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 5: We're going to have good times and bad times.

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Speaker 23: And so The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health came

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01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 23: out a few years ago, and I did the workbook

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01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 23: so that people who recognize you know they're feeling a

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01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 23: little like they need more resources, and especially in our community,

1464
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 23: especially in our community, that we recognize that there are

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01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 23: things that we can do, so that we can be

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01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 23: intentional rather than just keep pushing, because that's what we

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Speaker 23: are customer doing.

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Speaker 5: You just you keep pushing. You don't let them see

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Speaker 5: you sweat.

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Speaker 23: You look good on the outside, so you're hoping you

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01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 23: feel good on the inside, but it doesn't always translate.

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Speaker 23: And so I want for us to be so much

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01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 23: more intentional. Calming the Chaos actually just came out two

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01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 23: days ago, So that is a brand newsture recognizing that

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Speaker 23: we are living in really very chaotic times.

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Speaker 5: We don't have to feel chaotic on the inside.

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01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 6: Tell us what if we're average person in Joe walking

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01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 6: on the street, what should we be paying attention for

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 6: as really to what's happening with us? You know, I'll

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 6: say snappy or what's.

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Speaker 23: The I love that question because it doesn't have to

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 23: be that complicated. If you're not quite feeling like yourself

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01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 23: like something just isn't right. I don't feel like I

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 23: have my usual level of energy, or I don't feel

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01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 23: like I'm connecting with people, or I want to withdraw sometimes,

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01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 23: or if I want to sleep a lot, or just

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01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 23: anything that changes. And then also if the person feels

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01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 23: like they can't get their work done. So we all

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Speaker 23: have responsibilities, whether they be outside of home or inside

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Speaker 23: the home, but you can't just focus like your mind

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01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 23: just isn't keeping up with your thoughts like something, or

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01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 23: sleeping too much or not. I don't even know if

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01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 23: I've said that one. That's another easy one. We live

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01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 23: in a society where most people don't get enough rest

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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 23: and we take it for granted, but being sleep deprived

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01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 23: affects our ability to do everything, to do absolutely everything.

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Speaker 23: And so those are the kinds of things that we

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Speaker 23: can start to be mindful of.

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Speaker 6: I love that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, great, Cheldia's with the balance.

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Speaker 6: I'm also curious as we get closer to this election,

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Speaker 6: hopefully y'all have decided on who it is that you're

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Speaker 6: voting for, But if we were in the as we

1504
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 6: are in the closing days, what would you need to

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01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 6: hear if you were if you're talking to people who

1506
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 6: are undecided, folks who are sitting in your communities who

1507
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 6: are maybe balancing between whether or not this election is

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Speaker 6: going to make a difference, frankly, because the policies happening

1509
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 6: out of Washington aren't either reaching them or they're in

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 6: disagreement what's coming from the policies out of DC.

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Speaker 14: I think it's important to be always aware of our values.

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Speaker 23: It's the same for our mental health, because sometimes, you know,

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01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 23: we feel pushed to go in different directions based on

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 23: other people's values, based.

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Speaker 5: On what's important to us.

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Speaker 23: So we first and foremost have to get real about

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01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 23: what's important to us. You know, do we want to

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01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 23: live in a society. I'm a mom, you know, do

1519
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 23: I want to live in a society where my child

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Speaker 23: might not be able to vote in the next four years?

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01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 24: You know?

1522
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Speaker 23: Do I want to live in a society that firms

1523
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 23: who I am as a black woman? What kind of

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Speaker 23: society do I want to live in? And I think

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Speaker 23: that's what is important for anyone to be able to

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01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 23: make an informed decision.

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Speaker 5: I feel like there.

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01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: Was a collective depression in the country. I know, for

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01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: a while I just felt kind of checked out.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: We did a podcast and Angela was like, you know

1532
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: what it means DAP, Tiffany Grals checked out of the

1533
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: process because we were so just exhausted with it. And

1534
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: there was a collective movement of joy when she announced

1535
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: when Vice President Harris announced her campaign, and the things shifted.

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01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: And I wonder, in terms of our community, did we

1537
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,520
Speaker 1: feel this collectively that we pull ourselves out of it collectively?

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Speaker 1: Because I think sometimes when people hear depressions or heaviness,

1539
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: and I know I felt like, but I'm not because

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01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm still getting up. I'm still putting one foot in

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01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: front of the next. And my therapist told me, it's

1542
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 1: not about that, It's about the energy it's taking you

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01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: to do that.

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Speaker 5: And so I.

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01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: Wonder now in this heightened, you know, time period that

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01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: we live in, that we're navigating how we are I guess,

1547
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: qualifying and quantifying what it means to be healthy and.

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01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 23: Message Well, I'm I'm a clinical psychologist, and a lot

1549
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 23: of how I make sense of what's happening around me

1550
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 23: is and for other folks is how we're thinking about things.

1551
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 23: Like you're thinking affects your mood.

1552
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 5: Affects what you're doing.

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01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 23: And so if we think about, you know, going back

1554
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 23: to you know, feelings of depression, we weren't very inspired,

1555
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 23: maybe didn't have a whole lot of hope.

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01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 5: But then we start to.

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 23: Think more about the future and what the future could

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01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 23: look like. In the future was bright and encouraging and inspiring.

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01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 23: And so I think because of that, you know, maybe

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 23: we were pulled from, you know, a lower place where

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Speaker 23: we were uninspired and still the rest of life was

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 23: still happening. So it's not like life stops because of

1563
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 23: election season. Everything is still happening. It still weighs on

1564
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 23: us in a lot of different ways.

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01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: At Yeah, that's I was just gonna say, it's striking

1566
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: the balance of because we have to stay engaged, but

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01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: then knowing when to cut off that. When I ask

1568
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: people why are you so stressed about the election and

1569
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: they say, I don't know, it's just this narrative and

1570
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 1: like I'm watching the news, it's like, cut that off

1571
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: because it really doesn't matter. Like what matters is you

1572
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: vote and you encouraging other people to vote. Consuming all

1573
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: this information unless you work on the campaign, I don't

1574
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: think is very healthy.

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01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 4: I wanted to come to you, Fatima, because I saw

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01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 4: when Tim fras her last point, you kind of made

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01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 4: a face. So I want to give you the floor

1578
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 4: to you can disagree. It's still a safe space. It's family,

1579
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 4: So I would love to know your thoughts.

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01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 22: I'm going to be completely transparent and honest. I have

1581
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 22: a lot of weight on my shoulders right now. Clearly

1582
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 22: I'm Muslim, I'm a woman. I'm a woman in business,

1583
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 22: so there's a lot that I have at stake, let

1584
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 22: alone a mother. There I have to be a role model.

1585
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 22: But in the same breath, I have to protect myself.

1586
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 22: And there's so much that I can say and so

1587
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 22: much that I can't say, because when I did speak

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 22: on certain things, there was.

1589
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 5: I guess there is a reaction to a reaction, right,

1590
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 5: and so.

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01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 22: What I'm referring to is everything that is going on overseas.

1592
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 22: Of course, I lived through the war in two thousand

1593
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 22: and six. I was over there, born and raised American

1594
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 22: citizen kids, born and raised American citizens. So just to

1595
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 22: really see what is happening over there and not hear

1596
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 22: more pushback and a ceasefire happening, more support from innocent

1597
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 22: women and children dying. I mean, it should not have

1598
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 22: led to waking up to see people dying, being burnt

1599
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Speaker 22: alive with IVS in their arms.

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Speaker 5: How am I supposed to explain that to my kids? Yeah?

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01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 22: How am I supposed to keep them deeply rooted and

1602
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 22: everything that they do if I can't tell them that

1603
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 22: they can speak openly about this without feeling like they're

1604
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 22: not going to be protected, without them feeling like they're

1605
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 22: not going to get the same support. When I'm getting

1606
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 22: text message after text message after text message of somebody

1607
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 22: running for an American campaign with the Jewish flag in

1608
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 22: their background, it's heartbreaking. And I had a conversation actually

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:23,879
Speaker 22: with low.

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01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 5: Man.

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01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 22: It feels like when I hear Kamal this week, it's

1612
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 22: like my best friend that broke my heart. There was

1613
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 22: so much that she spoke on prior to this during

1614
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 22: the Biden campaign, and we were just looking like, okay,

1615
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 22: you know, family is coming into office, and.

1616
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 5: It was just like where are you? Yeah, what would

1617
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 5: you like to hear from her?

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01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 22: That's good again, just more in supporting my people as well.

1619
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:53,440
Speaker 22: I mean, a ceasefire, just humanity, just real humanity.

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01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm just want to be really specific here, so you

1621
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: would like her to acknowledge the humanity of the Palestinian people, which.

1622
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 22: Is just the Palestinian I mean, we're talking about Sudan,

1623
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 22: we talk about Lebanon, We're talking about Palestine, We're talking

1624
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 22: about Congo. We're talking about more than just one. Genocide

1625
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 22: is not just in Palace.

1626
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: It's true, very true, very true.

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01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 5: It's in multiple places. Right now. Our focus is.

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01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 22: Israel, nowhere else, right I mean, even in our own

1629
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 22: country here in the United States, we're seeing people being

1630
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 22: taken away from hurricanes and floods and all of this,

1631
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,520
Speaker 22: and they're not getting food on their table like babies.

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01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 5: As a mom, that kills me.

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: So acknowledgment of the humanity of people who are suffering

1634
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: genocide right now, which should be pretty effortless. So that

1635
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: makes sense, And you would like her to call for

1636
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 1: an immediate ceasefire?

1637
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 6: Is that?

1638
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in your mouth, So

1639
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: I want to understanding you.

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01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 22: I've heard her speak on a ceasefire, but in the

1641
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,839
Speaker 22: same breath aiding the other side.

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01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 5: What sense does that make?

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01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: M So are you suggesting that you would like to

1644
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: see the United States government stop funding correct?

1645
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 5: Israel? The idea correct?

1646
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,919
Speaker 1: And those are so are those things going to preclude

1647
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: you from casting a ballot for her.

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01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 22: In truth, I'm very undecided right now. I'm very undecided.

1649
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 1: And are you undecided between she and Trump? Are you

1650
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: undecided between?

1651
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 12: You?

1652
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 5: All? Got it? Got it to vote at all?

1653
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 22: I mean, again, going back to speaking as a Muslim woman,

1654
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 22: if I vote for that, I'm voting to hurt my people.

1655
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 4: What do you think is the the we know and

1656
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 4: we say often and I don't. I'm not just trying

1657
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 4: to throw away stuff, throw around stuff that we say

1658
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 4: all the time, but I do believe it's true. So

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01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 4: for example, I work. I grew up working on the

1660
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 4: hill as my professional the place where I grew up.

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01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 4: When members have stained from voting, it's still a vote, right, right, right,

1662
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 4: So if you don't vote, what signal is that send

1663
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 4: into your kids and others? Have you contemplated what that

1664
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 4: might be like?

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01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 22: And that's and that's where it goes back to a

1666
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 22: little bit on what you were speaking on. Truly, we

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01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 22: might not be in a level of depression or things

1668
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 22: like that, but we we are actively in a depressed state.

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're moving in a depress state.

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01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 22: So it's kind of like that moment where you just

1671
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 22: laying in bit curled up, don't know what to do,

1672
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 22: don't know what's.

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01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 5: Next, don't That's where it is.

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01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 22: So at some point, coming on situations like this and

1675
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 22: podcasts like this and having conversations like this again, I

1676
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 22: had to backtrack because I was so scared to do so.

1677
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 22: When I did do so, the trolls hit my social media,

1678
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 22: went on my Google page, went on everything, and brought

1679
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 22: my ratings down.

1680
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 5: With fake reviews.

1681
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 22: There you go, thank you, And I had to think, like, okay,

1682
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 22: this is just gonna hurt my business. So I going

1683
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 22: back and saying I have to be a role model

1684
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 22: to my kids. I'm trying to be a roll model

1685
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 22: to my kids. Get up and speak up. But they're

1686
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 22: saying that it's only going to hurt you to speak.

1687
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 22: So what difference is it going to make if I

1688
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 22: vote or don't vote?

1689
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 5: And well, I wonder it makes it go ahead?

1690
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 6: Well, I just I wonder if I can't imagine right

1691
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 6: what has to how you have to make sense out

1692
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 6: of nonsense? This process right now? When you when you can,

1693
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 6: you can name the names, you recognize the faces that

1694
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 6: would be difficult to imagine for all of us if

1695
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 6: we knew who said at the other end of the

1696
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:18,799
Speaker 6: consequence of a decision we make. I am curious if

1697
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 6: if you feel like, however the election turns out, that

1698
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 6: you will be okay with the outcome based off of

1699
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 6: whatever your decision may be to vote or to not vote.

1700
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,879
Speaker 22: Again, I'm such an unsure state at the moment, it's.

1701
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 5: Really difficult to call.

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01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 22: I feel like for me, I have a lot of

1703
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 22: processing to do, I have very little time to do.

1704
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 22: But I think what was very encouraging is agreeing to

1705
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 22: do this podcast. I mean, I had had a really

1706
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 22: good conversation with Low for her to say no, I

1707
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 22: think it'll help you to be here, and in truth

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01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 22: that has I mean just in this little bit of time.

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01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 22: So I can't give you a definite answer, but what

1710
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 22: I can give you is my perspective and again saying

1711
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 22: I survive something like that. I'm still living here. I

1712
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 22: have a home there that's destroyed. I have families home

1713
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 22: that is leveled. I have family members. I lost eight

1714
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 22: people in one week.

1715
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 5: My god, wow, you hear me.

1716
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 22: No reason a school should be touched, no reason a

1717
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 22: church should be touched, not a hospital, not nothing. There's

1718
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 22: no reason that there is no uproar from the world

1719
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 22: in regards to humanity, and when it happened on the

1720
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 22: other end and it said never again, it should be

1721
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 22: never again for anyone that can.

1722
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 4: I just say to you, I Fatima, and I know

1723
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 4: we have to we have to wrap, but I want

1724
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 4: to just say one thing, and I mean it. I

1725
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 4: don't say things that I don't mean, but I just

1726
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 4: want you to hear my heart on this. I cannot imagine,

1727
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 4: just like what Andrew said.

1728
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 5: What you're experiencing.

1729
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 4: I am so so sorry for what your family, your community,

1730
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 4: that culture has experienced. It should not happen. But this

1731
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 4: is the thing that I want to promise you. I

1732
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 4: know me, I know for Andrew, and I know for Tiffany.

1733
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 4: We all know Kamala personally. The thing that I have

1734
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 4: witnessed and I've helped her to organize our conversations with

1735
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 4: people she doesn't necessarily agree with, but she's listened and

1736
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 4: she's pivoted. What I am promising you is that if

1737
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 4: you can muster up the strength to get out that bed,

1738
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 4: and you're out the bed right now. So I say that,

1739
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying, in the moment when you're feeling just stuck,

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Speaker 4: to take that chance and to not just trust her,

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Speaker 4: but to trust us and the Rashidahs of the world

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Speaker 4: that are here to just ensure that you at least

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Speaker 4: have the opportunity to have the dialogue that is so

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Speaker 4: much better than what is offered on the other side.

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Speaker 4: And there's another candidate in the race that's promising the

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Speaker 4: world but has no allies in Congress to pull off

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Speaker 4: what they're promising.

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Speaker 5: I've heard.

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Speaker 4: I am going to promise you that if you can

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01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 4: do that, we will ensure that that happens. When you

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01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 4: listen to our podcast, we don't brush over this issue.

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Speaker 5: We talk about it and we mean I've heard it

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01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 5: everything very loud. And that's why I'm here. Another reason

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Speaker 5: that I'm here.

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Speaker 22: You might not know this, but I've actually done a

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01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 22: lot behind the scenes work for you and with you,

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01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 22: whether it's a Woman's March, Black Lives Matter.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you're familiar with Queena. I love her. It's

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01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:18,799
Speaker 5: my sister.

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Speaker 4: So that's a young lady that got us in touch

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Speaker 4: with the with the indigenous.

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Speaker 22: So I've done a lot of grassroots work. I've been

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Speaker 22: on the front line for a lot of different causes.

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Speaker 22: And what broke my heart most is when I needed,

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Speaker 22: or felt like I needed the team that I stood with.

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Speaker 5: I didn't feel like was there for me.

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Speaker 22: But here I am, and I hear you loud and care,

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Speaker 22: and I did listen and I did share a lot

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Speaker 22: of very recent podcasts episodes that you did with my kids.

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Speaker 22: And my son literally texted me and said, I feel

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Speaker 22: like a.

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Speaker 5: Proud parent.

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Speaker 22: And I do feel encourage and I do appreciate it

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Speaker 22: and the irony of having somebody in mental health.

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Speaker 5: We need very much so information with you. I appreciate you,

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01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 5: but we love y'all. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: I want to make sure Lolo will give you my number.

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Speaker 4: I want to stay in touch. I mean it's okay

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01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 4: for sure, and we are just down the streets. We

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01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 4: want to send everybody over there, but you want to

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01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 4: support you. We want that business to stay open, so

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Speaker 4: trust me, appreciate it. Walk We love you, guys. Thank

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Speaker 4: you so much.

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Speaker 6: An InCred awesome conversation. And you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 6: thank you, ladies. I didn't want to it felt because

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Speaker 6: I hate to put a voter. You know, the ballot

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Speaker 6: is still secret, right, folks should still be able to

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Speaker 6: express that. But as I was thinking, listening, I'm trying

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Speaker 6: to think for myself, like, if I'm in this complex situation, well,

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Speaker 6: I'd be okay with regardless of how it turns out.

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Speaker 6: If I make the choice that almost down, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: let them be aside. And I could answer that, at

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Speaker 6: least for the moment by saying I'm not okay with

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Speaker 6: any outcome, Yeah, because I know that there are real

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Speaker 6: consequences that flow from that. And I just just much

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Speaker 6: respect for the openness and the honesty and that conversation as.

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Speaker 1: I understand the conflict still having a ballot for a

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Speaker 1: government that is funding the killing of your people and

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Speaker 1: that has to impact all of us. But we all

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Speaker 1: have to understand that. But I hear your point, Angel,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was so great that we you know,

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Speaker 1: we promise to get Vice President Harris over the line.

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Speaker 1: We also promised to hold this administration accountable when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the atrocities. Quite honestly, does the IDF has

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Speaker 1: been acted on the world at this point.

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Speaker 4: And she said personally that she has to earn every vote.

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Speaker 4: Part of earning a vote is meeting the demands of

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Speaker 4: the voter. Absolutely, we are sitting here now with the

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Speaker 4: first black woman International President for SCIU and Services Employee

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Speaker 4: International Union. We are so grateful for your partnership. First, April,

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Speaker 4: I remember April from Cali from meeting her when you

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Speaker 4: were running things in California, and you have demonstrated what

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Speaker 4: it means to hold on a bipartisan level administrations accountable.

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Speaker 4: And I think just recently you're celebrating a really major

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Speaker 4: win with Kamala Harris's announcement to support in home healthcare workers.

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Speaker 5: So please talk about that and all.

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Speaker 11: The things, and thank you for joining us and for

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Speaker 11: being apartment. So first I got to say what up though,

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Speaker 11: And really, it is an honor to be here. It's

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01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 11: been far too long since we got to hang out.

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Speaker 11: But I'm proud to be here in Detroit and talking

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Speaker 11: about what we are going to do for care workers

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Speaker 11: across this country. That I would be remiss if I

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Speaker 11: don't remind us who care workers are. They are overwhelmingly women,

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Speaker 11: people of color, immigrants, and it's the work that enslaved

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Speaker 11: women did, right, It's the work that our great grandmothers

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Speaker 11: and grandmothers and mothers did, domestic work taking care of

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Speaker 11: people who cannot take care of themselves, our elders and

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Speaker 11: our children, and it's been poverty work. Right, It's been

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Speaker 11: work that has been dismissed and disrespected and demeaned. And

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Speaker 11: because of what we heard Vice President Harris say just

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Speaker 11: last week right creating a Medicare program for the first

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Speaker 11: time that invest in home care, we are taking this

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Speaker 11: work out of the shadows. We are going to make

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Speaker 11: this family sustaining work, and we are going to begin

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Speaker 11: to undo the wounds, the immortal wounds of this country

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Speaker 11: that has dismissed us and our work for far too long.

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Speaker 6: I love it well. I've got my experience with the

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Speaker 6: Purple folks in Florida. Yes, Monica rus the whole crew,

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Speaker 6: all of that was my staff from their champion. So

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Speaker 6: I love the strategic organizing that s CiU does. You

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01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 6: don't just put an idea out there. In fact, before

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01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 6: your ideas are out there, y'all have already workshopped the

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Speaker 6: way in which you plan to get it done. So

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Speaker 6: I love having s CiU on the side of at

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Speaker 6: least the issues and the policies that I care about,

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Speaker 6: because I know that means you guys are working to

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Speaker 6: the finishes is achieved. I'm curious to know as you

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Speaker 6: all have as a as A as a union, international union,

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Speaker 6: what kind of the Some of the unions have struggled,

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Speaker 6: and we've been less privy to some of the internal

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Speaker 6: conversations around the debate of Harris, nobody or the other guy.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious has s CiU had similar internal debates around

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Speaker 6: where y'all would land.

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Speaker 5: Well, I will tell you.

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Speaker 11: We convened our board at about six o'clock Eastern on

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Speaker 11: the night that the Vice President Harris announced her candidacy,

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Speaker 11: the day that President Biden said he was step and

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Speaker 11: down and it was a no brainer. I convened my

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Speaker 11: board of sixty five people and in less than thirty

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Speaker 11: minutes we had humanimously decided that we.

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Speaker 20: Were going to endorse our vice president.

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Speaker 5: Let me walk get back. It was two abstentions. Its

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Speaker 5: just talked about that that's a vote too.

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Speaker 11: It is a vote too, But it was a it

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Speaker 11: was a no breaker here for the leaders in my

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Speaker 11: union who have known Vice President Harris from her time

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Speaker 11: as a district attorney in San Francisco. We represent seven

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Speaker 11: hundred thousand people in California, so we know her well.

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Speaker 11: We know that she has walked a day in the

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Speaker 11: shoes of a caregiver in Oakland, California, of a security

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Speaker 11: officer right here in Detroit, Michigan. She walked picket lines

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Speaker 11: with striking fast food workers in South Carolina. She knows

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Speaker 11: who we are, we know who she is, we know

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Speaker 11: whose she is, and so we didn't have a lot

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Speaker 11: of beef, right we were able to come together and

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Speaker 11: it was just like, come on, y'all, it is really

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Speaker 11: clear what's at stake in the and it's clear who's

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Speaker 11: going to deliver a future for work.

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Speaker 6: So as y'all translate what y'all's experiences have been with her,

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Speaker 6: which you're clearly vast, to the voter out there who

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Speaker 6: is either undecided or not motivated yet to go vote,

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Speaker 6: what are you saying.

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Speaker 11: I am telling folks all over this country. Yeah, Kamala

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Speaker 11: Harris's name is at the top of the ticket. But

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Speaker 11: this election is about you. This election is about us.

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Speaker 11: This election is about electing people in this country who

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Speaker 11: give us a chance to fight for our themselves. I'm

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Speaker 11: a union organizer, I'm a union president. I'm a power builder.

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Speaker 11: But it is up to us to build power, to

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Speaker 11: take our own agency and do something for ourselves. And

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Speaker 11: there is one person in this race who wants to

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Speaker 11: build an inclusive, multi racial, multicultural, multi generational democracy, and

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Speaker 11: there's one who wants to usher in a new era

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Speaker 11: of fascism. That's right, It's real simple.

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Speaker 1: I think I did a brief, very brief stint in labor,

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Speaker 1: and quite honestly, I didn't understand the significant role that

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Speaker 1: labor plays in politics, and I would imagine a lot

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Speaker 1: of people across the country don't quite understand that. I

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Speaker 1: think what we do understand is the challenging issues around caretakers.

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Speaker 1: I love that you've made the point this is the

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Speaker 1: work that black women have done during enslavement. I think

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Speaker 1: that's so true. Care in this country is in crisis.

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Speaker 1: It is as someone who's had to be a caretaker

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Speaker 1: for ill relatives, who had to pay for caretakers for relatives.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what isn't in Vice President Harris's plan that

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Speaker 1: speaks to people who are facing that very issue right now.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but again, throughout her career in the Senate, she

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Speaker 11: was a chief sponsor of the Domestic Worker Bill of Rights,

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Speaker 11: So this isn't a new issue to her. She didn't

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Speaker 11: just come up with the idea of investing in a

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Speaker 11: medicare program. Right, it's who she's always been as a leader.

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Speaker 5: And you're right.

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Speaker 11: The country is in crisis. Ten thousand seniors turned sixty

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Speaker 11: five every single day in this country. And if we

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Speaker 11: don't want to pay people to take care of them,

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Speaker 11: who's going to do it? And we shouldn't be told, oh, well,

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Speaker 11: it's your responsibility as a mother or a niece, or

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Speaker 11: grandparent or a daughter, right, because it falls on the women, yes, right, and.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes will be taking care of and children.

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Speaker 11: And it's not just the older care crisis, it's a

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Speaker 11: childcare the most families. The cross of care is the

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Speaker 11: second largest expense and your more than your more, yes, right.

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Speaker 11: So let's talk about it with the only industrialized country

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Speaker 11: in the world that does not have a care infrastructure

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Speaker 11: that we can really clean.

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Speaker 4: So speaking of it falls on women, we're gonna make

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Speaker 4: sure it don't fall on women.

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Speaker 5: Today. We got two young men who are going to

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Speaker 5: join April.

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Speaker 4: Right now, we have our good brother, Lieutenant Governor Garland Gilchrist,

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Speaker 4: and we also there he is, he's sitting down. He

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Speaker 4: got a brace on our good brother and friend, a

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Speaker 4: co founder of Black Voters Matter. He ain't bring me

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Speaker 4: no sweatsuit that says we fight back.

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Speaker 11: But Cliff alright is also joins.

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Speaker 4: Right now, give Cliff a hand to y'all because he

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Speaker 4: ain't from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: We should tell people why Cliff is limping a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He got smart with his wife and so I wis.

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Speaker 25: Gott driving to the mountain to climb the mountain to

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Speaker 25: go register some folks, Escalator should have taken Escalator.

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Speaker 1: Hapy to have you back with us, hosting us in

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Speaker 1: this wonderful city.

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Speaker 24: Welcome back here to the city of Detroit. We are

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Speaker 24: so proud that this was part of our native land. Yes,

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Speaker 24: I am also always honored to be sitting here with

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Speaker 24: my sister April s c i U in Detroit and

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Speaker 24: across Michigan is one of the most powerful forces for

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Speaker 24: working people. They just want a tremendous victory thanks to

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Speaker 24: that was signed in the law by Governor Grecia, woman

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Speaker 24: that I personally lobby for in our Democrat out of

1953
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 24: majority legislature, to put forth an opportunity for home care

1954
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 24: workers in the state of Michigan to organize to be

1955
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 24: respected and protected in a new generational way. And it

1956
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 24: speaks to that democratic governance is worth voting for because

1957
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 24: we can create the conditions for health and wealth for

1958
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 24: a new generation.

1959
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 12: And aples leadership and that CiU leadership really made that happen.

1960
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 12: I'm proud to be a part of the two.

1961
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 11: That's right, and it's important to remember. That's why we

1962
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 11: give a lot of attention and energy, as we should

1963
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 11: to the race for president. But we got to make

1964
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 11: sure we keep a working people's majority in the House

1965
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 11: of Representatives, the State House here in Michigan, like in the.

1966
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 10: State Senate here in Michigan.

1967
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 11: We got to protect right those in our state and

1968
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 11: local government as well.

1969
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're so happy to see you. Are you on

1970
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 1: the blackest bus in America?

1971
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 25: Yes, the blackest bus and americles just down the block.

1972
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 5: Blocked off.

1973
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know not able to get over here,

1974
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know.

1975
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 10: And we were just giving out some shirts and stuff.

1976
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 25: We want to give a couple of shirts.

1977
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 12: Coming back to.

1978
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 1: Everybody.

1979
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 5: I mean.

1980
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: That we've talked about, We've referenced a lot on this podcast,

1981
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,480
Speaker 1: the work of Black Voters Matter, And during the hurricanes

1982
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: that impacted a lot of the southern region of the

1983
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: United States, I was talking about how you and our

1984
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 1: dear sister are a good friend Latasha Brown, who is

1985
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 1: our the Maya Angelou to our Oprah, like she is

1986
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 1: our deity and our lives on some level. But she

1987
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 1: talked about you guys going into these areas and not

1988
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: only registering people to vote, or not even focused on

1989
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: registering people to vote, but delivering them generators. Tell us

1990
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: why you all did that?

1991
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean, first of all, when we say black

1992
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 25: voters matter, we mean that, right.

1993
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 6: We were intentional when we.

1994
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 25: Say black voters matter, not black votes matter, because there's

1995
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,560
Speaker 25: a lot of people that care about black votes that

1996
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 25: don't give a damn about black.

1997
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 6: So that's why.

1998
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 10: But you know, Latasha and I and.

1999
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 25: April, my wife, April, we've been doing disaster relief ever

2000
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,679
Speaker 25: since Katrina. That's the first time we got a big

2001
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 25: old bus. It wasn't black, it was actually purple, and

2002
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 25: we started driving it. That's right, And so you know,

2003
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 25: and and and so that really started our intentionality around

2004
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 25: not just talking about power building the sense of elections,

2005
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 25: but recognizing that it was small churches and neighbored associations

2006
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 25: when nobody else was around, when no national guards around,

2007
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,759
Speaker 25: that's who was feeding our folks. So we've been doing

2008
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 25: some level of disaster resistance, as y'all know, a lot

2009
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 25: of it.

2010
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 6: I know, as Andrew knows.

2011
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 25: A lot of these storms happened right in the middle

2012
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 25: of the vote, you know, right either by the registration

2013
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 25: deadline or the early vote period. And a lot of

2014
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,799
Speaker 25: times what we have to do in addition to providing

2015
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 25: the relief to our communities is we have to fight

2016
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 25: those election battles to get hours expands, to expand the

2017
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 25: registration's deadline and all that. And so we got to

2018
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 25: be able to walk in shot gum at the same time,

2019
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 25: because I can't go knock it on somebody's door talk

2020
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 25: about come vote when they got.

2021
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 6: A tree on their house or they don't have power.

2022
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 25: Right, So we got to deal with our real lives issues,

2023
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 25: with our everyday issues, at our emergency issues before we

2024
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 25: can continue to talk about the voting.

2025
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 6: As Cliff, y'all have also been talking to black voters,

2026
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 6: black men voters, particularly long before it became popular and

2027
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 6: we could go and I've seen more black men on

2028
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 6: television talking about black man I've never seen television. I

2029
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 6: just want to know, what, how is this resonated with

2030
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 6: you you all as an organization and the folks who

2031
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 6: are your members and the folks you serve. Does it

2032
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,440
Speaker 6: feel real and authentic? Does it feel a little overblown?

2033
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 6: Does it reflect the reality you see an experience on

2034
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 6: the street.

2035
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 25: Right, No, it does not feel real. It feels overblown.

2036
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 25: It feels like hyperbole. You know, I said last year,

2037
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 25: I was on some show and I said, look, people

2038
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 25: are acting like the sky's falling.

2039
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 6: Sky's not falling.

2040
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 25: It might be drizzling, right that there might be a

2041
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 25: real issue that you got to pay attention to, right,

2042
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 25: But the sky's not falling. There's not some big, massive

2043
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 25: shift that's taking place. In fact, the bigger shift that

2044
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 25: we saw take place isn't the shift happening now from

2045
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 25: between Biden and Kamala or even from Hillary from that year.

2046
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 25: The biggest shift what we saw with black men was when.

2047
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 20: Karen Obama was during the Obamas.

2048
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 25: It was from two thousand and eight to twenty twelve. Right,

2049
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 25: that wasn't about sexism. That was about brothers feeling like

2050
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 25: some of our issues, right or wrong. Some brothers felt

2051
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 25: like many of our issues were not being dealt with

2052
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 25: at that time.

2053
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 10: They still feel the same way.

2054
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 6: So it's overblown.

2055
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,480
Speaker 25: Are there some real issues of sexism is real, misogyny

2056
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 25: is real, patriarchy is real. And there's some of that

2057
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 25: group of that ten percent that we know is good

2058
01:38:58,320 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 25: to vote.

2059
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 12: For the Orange meta right. They always do that, right, They've.

2060
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 25: Been doing that ever since George Bush was talking about what.

2061
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 10: Was it the faith based initiatives?

2062
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 6: They always exist.

2063
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 25: But you got this other batch that have some real

2064
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 25: questions that really did want to hear more discussion around

2065
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 25: black men, that wanted to be talked to you know

2066
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 25: where we are. And for many of them, the agenda

2067
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 25: that she put out, which I think is.

2068
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 10: An excellent agenda.

2069
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 25: It actually deals with a lot of the issues that

2070
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 25: we hear when we're in the streets. Right that agenda

2071
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 25: is going to answer some of those questions for some

2072
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 25: of those brothers who will now be like, you know.

2073
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 10: What, I didn't know that.

2074
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 25: I'm glad to see that some of them might still

2075
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 25: be like that ain't enough. It's too late. You know,

2076
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 25: I still don't like you, I don't like your laugh.

2077
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 25: And guess what, they wasn't gonna no matter what agenda

2078
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 25: she shout out, it wasn't gonna be enough. But our

2079
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 25: job is to inform the ones that right now are

2080
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 25: not getting enough information because disinformation only thrives in a vacuum.

2081
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 6: As long as we're having.

2082
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 25: These conversations and giving folks accurate information, then the disinformation

2083
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 25: can have as much impact.

2084
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 4: And then we need to go to April because she's

2085
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 4: leaving us. You don't feel well, so I want to

2086
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 4: make sure we get to you.

2087
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 24: But want to come the amount of people who have

2088
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 24: been just like climbing over other people to be able

2089
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,440
Speaker 24: to take punches at black men in television, Oh, come on,

2090
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 24: come on, And and I think the irony of that is,

2091
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,839
Speaker 24: are these the people who, then you would.

2092
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 12: Trust to have the best interests of black men.

2093
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 24: Anyone who would be so so eager and aggressive to

2094
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 24: attack women, we wouldn't say with supportable women. Anyone who

2095
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 24: would be so eager and aggressive to attack working people,

2096
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 24: we wouldn't say it was someone we would trust to

2097
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 24: protect working people. And so I think the better conversation

2098
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 24: is what is the opportunity that we have to be

2099
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 24: part of this future? And so that means yes, laying

2100
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 24: forward an agenda that is inclusive and responsive to the

2101
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 24: priorities of people who want health and wealth and opportunity.

2102
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 24: But It also means that we have to have a

2103
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 24: real conversation about how people can be invited to do

2104
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 24: so in the right way. And I just have never

2105
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 24: looked I do. This ain't true with my parents. This

2106
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 24: ain't true with voters. I mean by my kids or

2107
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 24: my voters. They're like, by admonishing someone, it's not how

2108
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 24: you get them to do something. If I getting mad

2109
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 24: at people's effective, yeah, it would be in a much

2110
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 24: different place.

2111
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 15: That's right.

2112
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 4: I want to ask you, April, because I believe Correct

2113
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong, But I believe SCIU is also

2114
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 4: the blackest and brownest labor union in the country.

2115
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 5: Is that right?

2116
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,799
Speaker 11: We are sixty percent women and overwhelmingly people of color.

2117
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 4: So when you hear some of the things that we're

2118
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 4: talking about, I think I got mad for We were

2119
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 4: on the CNN earlier today and I went on, I

2120
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 4: was like, why.

2121
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 5: Why I talk to these white people? They trying to

2122
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 5: cost the elections.

2123
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 4: So when you hear some of these things, what are

2124
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 4: some of the union responses For those at home who

2125
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 4: are dues paying labor union members, what are the things

2126
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 4: that you would say to them? Because I know it

2127
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 4: ain't CiU members, because you getting together. But for everybody else,

2128
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 4: what would you say to them about the importance of

2129
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 4: this election and voting their interests?

2130
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 11: So, first of all, y'all gonna stop beating up on

2131
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 11: my brothers. Right, No, not y'all, but y'all them they're

2132
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 11: not like us. They know who they are, and I'm

2133
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 11: gonna stand up for my brothers. And like you said,

2134
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 11: you know, how often do white men vote against their

2135
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 11: own interests? And how often do white women vote against

2136
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:25,759
Speaker 11: their own interests?

2137
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 5: Interest is that part?

2138
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 11: So we're not going to try to set this up

2139
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 11: to blame what I don't think will happen. But we're

2140
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,639
Speaker 11: not gonna blame this on black men, like cut it out.

2141
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 11: But to your to your question, Angela, we know that

2142
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 11: it's going to be working people that make the difference

2143
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 11: in this election. I am really proud and I'm gonna

2144
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 11: brag a second on the two hundred million dollar investment

2145
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 11: that SEIU is making.

2146
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 5: In this cycle. We have a goal to reach six

2147
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 5: million voters.

2148
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 11: We've achieved that and we're gonna knock a million more

2149
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 11: doors between now and election day. And we're doing that

2150
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 11: because this election is about us, and that's what we're

2151
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 11: saying in this selection. This is about us, This is

2152
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 11: about our hopes, this is about our dreams. This is

2153
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 11: about enough power, enough agency to be able to do

2154
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 11: the big stuff like dismantle systemic and structural racism, like

2155
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 11: in poverty for once and for all, like fix a

2156
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,640
Speaker 11: broken immigration system to heal our climate which causes the

2157
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 11: natural disasters. Right, enough power with real champions to do

2158
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 11: the big stuff.

2159
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 5: And it's clear you.

2160
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 11: Got a despot, right, a fascist in this race who

2161
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 11: only cares about himself, and so like, let's have a

2162
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 11: real conversation about what's at stake here and who's the

2163
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 11: best people that's going to help move us in our

2164
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 11: community forwards.

2165
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 5: True, well, April, we know that you gotta go.

2166
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 4: You got a million more doors than knock on and

2167
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 4: we need you well to do that. I'm empathizing because

2168
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 4: they know they left me for dinner last night because

2169
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 4: I had a headache.

2170
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,640
Speaker 11: I was like, bye, I can't move. So thank you

2171
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 11: so much being the d and not come by and

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Speaker 11: say what's up. I really really appreciate the way you

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Speaker 11: all use your platform for to tell the truth and

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Speaker 11: to use it to be powerful for our folks.

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Speaker 7: So thank you.

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Speaker 4: I want to give a shout out to Denise Horn too,

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Speaker 4: who made sure that you came on here and was like,

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01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 4: and what we're gonna do to get her on Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 5: So I'm glad everything good. Yeah day at absolutely, thank

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Speaker 5: you so much.

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01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 4: So Cliff is wearing this sweatshirt that's really supposed to

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01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 4: be mine.

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01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 5: It says we fight back.

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Speaker 20: Cliff, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 6: Take this off.

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01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 5: Keep it. You just taking off now because you had it.

2187
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 5: He's got warm out here.

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Speaker 4: But Cliff, I wanted can you talk to us a

2189
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 4: little bit about what we fight back means? Black Voters

2190
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 4: Matter is also a partner of ours, and so I

2191
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 4: want to make sure we have a clear idea of

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01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 4: this theme and why it's so important for us to

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Speaker 4: take our power back and fight back.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, you know, so when we started the So I'm

2195
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 25: gonna give you the true story because when we first

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01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 25: picked the theme, we pick a new bus theme every year,

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Speaker 25: and we picked this like towards the end of last year.

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Speaker 25: And actually it was right after the Montgomery brawl that.

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Speaker 1: We august the beloved white folding chairs.

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Speaker 25: But what it means is, you know, we picked it

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Speaker 25: for a couple of reasons. One because you know, as

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01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 25: we always say, when our rights are under attack, we

2203
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 25: fight back, right.

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01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 10: And so and it's not just that we fight back against.

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Speaker 25: Something right, we're fighting back also for something for a

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01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 25: different vision, right, a different vision for our communities and

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01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 25: our safety and our health and our jobs and all

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01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 25: of that. But the other reason that we picked it

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Speaker 25: is because we knew that there was this discussion that

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Speaker 25: we just touched on it a little bit right in

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01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 25: terms of black men, but even more more wider, it

2212
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 25: was about whether or not black folks in general we're

2213
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 25: going to be as enthusiastic right, whether or not we're

2214
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 25: going to turn out, is all. And what we wanted

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01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 25: to send is a message that look historically, when when

2216
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 25: we face tough times, we don't just sit stuff out.

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01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 25: We don't have the luxury of sitting on the sidelines.

2218
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 25: We fight back, right, We get involved, we get in

2219
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 25: the game. And so we wanted to send that message

2220
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 25: that you know, right now in this moment. And and

2221
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,600
Speaker 25: and yes, there was some some some issues. I'll just

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01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 25: talked about a major one in terms of you know,

2223
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 25: our their brothers and sisters in the uncommitted movement. But

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01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 25: although there are some real issues, we don't have the

2225
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 25: luxury of waiting on the perfect We've got to be

2226
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 25: in the game. We got to fight back, and that's

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01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:24,879
Speaker 25: why we're going around the country spreading that message.

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Speaker 6: I love that colin Utan Governor, as you say, my

2229
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 6: bad Lieutenant Governor, I would love, would love for you

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01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 6: to spend just a few moments as we've got a

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01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 6: bunch of Michiganders who are paying attention, listening, some who

2232
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 6: are here with us today. What else should folks be

2233
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 6: aware of coming up on your ballot this uh and

2234
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 6: two weeks as motivation for them to get out of

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01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 6: both the ballot.

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Speaker 24: So in Michigan, this election is incredibly consequential because not

2237
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 24: only is the person and that person will be Kamala

2238
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 24: Harris and her partner Tom Walls, who wins the state

2239
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:00,799
Speaker 24: of Michigan at the presidential level when the Electoral College

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Speaker 24: with the election, but we also have an open United.

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Speaker 12: States Senate seat here and Senator w.

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01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 24: Savanale is retiring from her lawn service to the state

2243
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 24: of Michigan. And we have Congressoman and Alyssa Slacken who

2244
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 24: is ready to be here the next United States Center

2245
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 24: here from our state. And that's important because in order

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01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:21,640
Speaker 24: for President Harris to pass her agenda, she must have

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01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 24: at least one chamber of Congress, and so by protecting

2248
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 24: the senatece the minute in Michigan, that'll make sure that

2249
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 24: we are one step closer to at least having a

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Speaker 24: fifty plus one majority in the United States Senate. Now

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01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 24: a little bit closer to home for me. On the

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01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 24: state level, Michigan has a one seat majority in our

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01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 24: state House of Representatives. So let me tell you something

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01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 24: about that one seat majority.

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Speaker 12: It's been the.

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Speaker 24: Most productive legislature in Michigan in fifty years in terms

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Speaker 24: of putting money back in people's pockets. Our appeal and

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01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 24: the tax and retirement income that Republicans put in place

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01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 24: thirteen years ago so that they can give task custom

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Speaker 24: rich people and big companies. It is quintupled the working

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01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 24: families task it because there are so many people who

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Speaker 24: are working in Michigan and still need a little bit

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01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 24: of help to make ends meet. And this is putting

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01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 24: thirty two hundred dollars in seven hundred and fifty thousand

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01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 24: households pockets. That is lifting half of the children in

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01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 24: Michigan literally out of poverty. With this that one seat

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Speaker 24: Democratic majority delivered that at a time when things are

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01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 24: so expensive. We have to hold onto that majority because

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01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:21,759
Speaker 24: all one hundred and ten members are on the ballot.

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Speaker 24: And so I'm literally leaving here to go not doors

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Speaker 24: to one of our candidates in Macomb County. Earlier this morning,

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Speaker 24: I was in Grand Rapids, Michigan, three and a half

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Speaker 24: hours away kicking off people to not doors in Grand Rapids, Michigan,

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Speaker 24: but one of our members who made us the majority

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01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 24: the last time. So I'm basically organizing sixty to ninety

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01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 24: people every single day to go not doors something in

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Speaker 24: Michigan every day between now and election day. You know,

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01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 24: we have to make sure also and very important that

2279
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 24: I know you had her on this show here, but

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01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 24: I got to lift her up again. The Michigan Supreme

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01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 24: Court also has a one seat Democratic majority thanks to

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01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 24: Justice Kyra Harris Bolden, and we need to elect not

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Speaker 24: only send her back to the court, but also elect

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Speaker 24: the one and named Ken Thomas alongside her, which will

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01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 24: give us a two seat majority on the state Supreme Court.

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Speaker 24: And the trifecta is the governor Lieutenant governor plus the

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Speaker 24: legislature plus the Supreme Court. And that is what leads

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Speaker 24: to progress in Michigan on the climate crisis, on environmental justice,

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01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 24: on economic opportunity, on the path of the health and wealth,

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01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 24: on the record investors in public education, including free breakfasts

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01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 24: and free lunch for every kid who goes to school

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01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,879
Speaker 24: in Michigan. Like this is what we're voting to protect

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01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 24: in the later foundation to expand because even if we

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Speaker 24: had even just one more seat in that majority, a

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01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 24: two seat majority would have helped us go even farther

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01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 24: on our reproductive health app to protect reproductive freedom.

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01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 12: Because we got everywhere except for it.

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01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 24: There's still an anti science, anti woman, twenty fo hour

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01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 24: waiting period on abortion services in Michigan. There's no reason

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01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 24: for that. But we couldn't get that across the finish line.

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01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 24: But if we had just one more vote. So that's

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Speaker 24: why all these elections are critical, and I am doing

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Speaker 24: my best using my platform. The privilege that the voters

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Speaker 24: in Michigan gave me to be able to go every

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Speaker 24: place in Michigan is still be home. That's why I

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01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,599
Speaker 24: go every place from the Upper Peninsula to the southwest

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Speaker 24: and southeastern Michigan and right here in Detroit, will be

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01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 24: knocking doors on the west side tomorrow about the opportunity

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01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 24: you have to put your stamp on this state's present future.

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Speaker 20: Well come, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

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01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 4: Speaking of going west, I want to go all the

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01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 4: way to the best coast really quick.

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Speaker 19: There you go to some of y'all.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking a point of personal privilege.

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01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 4: Sitting next her, Lieutenant Governor Garland Gil Chris is a

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01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 4: good friend. We went to Santory School together where I'm

2317
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 4: from in Seattle, Washington. His dad was the coach of

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01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 4: the SuperSonics that I really want Seattle SuperSonics to come back.

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01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 4: I know our resident sports expert knows all about that,

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Speaker 4: Tiffany Cross.

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Speaker 5: I feel that there was also a baller.

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01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 4: Garland is a baller, But there's a baller named John

2323
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 4: Blair Bepperstat who is now the coach, the head coach

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01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 4: of the Detroit Pistons, and he's joined us today.

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Speaker 5: And I'm so so grateful you did. I'm more excited

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01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 5: just personally because I'm like you, oh God, this is great.

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01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 15: I appreciate it. I'm happy to be here. I'm looking

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01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 15: forward to it.

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Speaker 5: It's been a while all the way fourth or physical

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Speaker 5: some time.

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01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 10: Good I've seen him on mind.

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Speaker 5: He's been killing it. He's been killing it.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so.

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01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 4: Talk about the importance of having Pistons land here the

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01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 4: first day of early voting in Detroit.

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Speaker 5: Why is it so important? Why was it important for

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01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 5: you all to be involved?

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01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:25,600
Speaker 15: I think you know, even before I got here, the

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01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 15: Pistons have done a great job of being a member

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01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 15: of this community, understanding what their responsibility is, the platform

2341
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 15: that they have, and their ability to reach people. I

2342
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 15: think one of the things that you know, we take

2343
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 15: pride in as a sports organization the NBA as a whole,

2344
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,759
Speaker 15: is one thing that sports does is it brings people together,

2345
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 15: and it unites people that look like you know, every

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01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 15: different color, from every different place, from.

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Speaker 10: All over the world.

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01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 6: It attracts that.

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Speaker 15: So if you have that large of a platform, it's

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01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 15: part of your responsibility to make sure that you're reaching

2351
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 15: out and just getting people involved. Right, all of us

2352
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 15: got here on the backs of somebody else, and it's

2353
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,600
Speaker 15: our responsibility to pay that forward. And that's what the

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01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 15: Detroit Pistons are doing. They're giving people an opportunity, creating

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01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 15: an environment form to understand what our civic duties are.

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01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 15: And then we got to go out and impact change

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01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 15: the best of our ability.

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Speaker 6: I love it. I want to ask you anything that's

2359
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 6: gonna get you in any trouble. We want you on

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01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 6: your job. I know. But I'm curious to know whether

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01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 6: or not your team has a commitment around your members voting.

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01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 6: I've heard different coaches commit to one hundred percent players, staff, administration,

2363
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 6: getting out and voting where they're registered. I'm curious to

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01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,639
Speaker 6: know whether you all have a similar commitment or.

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01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 15: Working towards We're working towards it, obviously.

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01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 12: You know.

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01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 15: We just got here not too long ago, just got

2368
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 15: the job not too long ago. But we had the

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01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,719
Speaker 15: Secretary of State come down and talk to our guys.

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01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 15: We've hired someone, Misty Boyd, who's there helping as well,

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01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,879
Speaker 15: and we're pushing to get all our guys either registered

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01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 15: here in Detroit if they can, or some of them

2373
01:52:57,439 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 15: have residents other places. So we're working to get all

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01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 15: those guys registered to articipate in the process.

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Speaker 6: I love that. I guess I could because she knows that.

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01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 1: She probably always don't mind. I think my co host

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01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 1: know a lot about sports. To shift into a little

2378
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 1: bit of sports conversation.

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01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 5: I'm careful.

2380
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 1: I would like to know. It is a sports question.

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01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 1: When the Pistons were known as the bad boys of

2382
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,879
Speaker 1: the NBA, which they were, you guys, thank.

2383
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,800
Speaker 5: You during the heyday.

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01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 1: You don't know, during the heyday of Isaiah Thomas and

2385
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: Joe Dumars, who now works at the NBA, by the way,

2386
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: and overseas operations, by the way, he's played for the Pistons,

2387
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:44,759
Speaker 1: how might.

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Speaker 5: You had ideas and find them during that era?

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01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:49,719
Speaker 1: There was a game where they walked off the court

2390
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 1: and did not shake the hands of the Chicago Bulls.

2391
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:53,759
Speaker 1: This was a major I'll.

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Speaker 5: Explain it to you, guys, Pistons player, and then Joe

2393
01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 5: already said.

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Speaker 1: I'm Isaiah Thomas.

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Speaker 6: Can you give it to retired.

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01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 1: Rick White?

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Speaker 5: But got white guy name was Bill?

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01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 10: You were talking about it.

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01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 5: There's a bob to any who.

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Speaker 1: How might you have advised guys when they walk up

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01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 1: and didn't shake. Do you think that it's like part

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01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:22,640
Speaker 1: of the norm now? Or would you have said no,

2403
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 1: you guys should have shaken the hands in the bay.

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01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 5: Thank you?

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01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 6: Okay, where we're going.

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01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 1: If you were their coach, would you have said, yes,

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01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 1: shake their hands? Relevant about good sportsmanship that across a

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Speaker 1: lot of politics.

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Speaker 25: Thank you.

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Speaker 15: You guys definitely always preached good sportsmanship, but I think

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01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 15: when you go back to that group, the rivalries were

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01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 15: deeper than that, and it was you know, those those

2413
01:54:56,520 --> 01:55:00,000
Speaker 15: rivalries got personal. So those guys did what they did.

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01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 15: You know, they were they want a ton of games,

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01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 15: they were champions.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 15: They set the tone of what I think Piston basketball

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01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 15: should be. That toughness, that mentality that they played with

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01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 15: uh where they didn't concede anything. So those are the

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01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 15: messages that we're trying to give our guys now as

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01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 15: we try to rebuild this uh, and we're using them

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01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 15: as you know, a way to establish that like we

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01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 15: want to go back in the past and appreciate those

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01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 15: guys and their legacy and hopefully carry that forward.

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Speaker 1: Well, if there's ever the opportunity, I know this is

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Speaker 1: your way of probably asking, so I'll just spare you

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01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 1: for having having to ask. I'm happy to come talk

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01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,919
Speaker 1: to the players and any kind of motivational capacity about sports.

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01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 1: Definitely about sports.

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Speaker 6: You got her number right.

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01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 4: I'm going to make sure that I give her guidelines

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Speaker 4: that include do not talk about sports.

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Speaker 5: I got sports guidance for them. Shut up and don't.

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Speaker 6: What sport did she say? Did they make a goal?

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Speaker 4: If you guys are making closing our missed today about

2436
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 4: the importance of getting out the vote, telling people to

2437
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Speaker 4: go right here to vote. It's early voting in Michigan.

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01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 4: Of course, there's are in Detroit rather a huge concert

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01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 4: taking place. We want to be entertained, but we don't

2440
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 4: want just want people to be entertained. They need to

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01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 4: do something with that. We have to take action. What

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01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 4: would you tell them?

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01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 15: I think the simple thing for me is like, you

2444
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 15: can't complain if you don't participate. And that's one of

2445
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 15: the things that you know, we sit around and we

2446
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 15: talk about the problems, We talk about the issues, but

2447
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 15: then we don't participate in ways to solve them. And

2448
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 15: it's our responsibility. You know, we live our lives. You know,

2449
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 15: we're trying to pass things forward to our families, our children,

2450
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 15: those types of things. So if we don't participate, you know,

2451
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 15: we don't have the right to complain about it when

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01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 15: things don't go our way.

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Speaker 6: That's true.

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Speaker 24: I met a nineteen year old guy named Beyonce and

2455
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 24: Flant a couple of weeks ago, and this will be

2456
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:48,840
Speaker 24: his first election, and he said honestly, he would shake

2457
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 24: you all about making the decision. He registered to vote

2458
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 24: because we have preregistration laws in Michigan now, so he

2459
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 24: was registered. But he said, you know, I don't know,

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01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 24: like I don't know what this is about. And I

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01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 24: asked him, well, is there anything in your unity just

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Speaker 24: start on your street?

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01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 12: Is anything that you want to see different?

2464
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Speaker 24: And he said, yeah, you know, I wanted to do

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Speaker 24: something about you know, I think the homes could be

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Speaker 24: better taking care of on my street. And I was like,

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Speaker 24: all right, dance, So what do you think could happen?

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Speaker 24: Like who could do something about that? And he said, well,

2469
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 24: we can get the people together and we could clean

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Speaker 24: some stuff up, and maybe we can get some money

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Speaker 24: or resource to the community. And now I did hear that,

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Speaker 24: you know that the city spends money on stuff like that,

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Speaker 24: maybe we could do it. So what I said, Tom,

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Speaker 24: is I want you to do all that. I'm gonna

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Speaker 24: help you get connected so you can organize. It's clean up,

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01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 24: you can organize talking to people in the local Flint government.

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01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 24: There's a good public service there. I want to add

2478
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 24: something on top of what you're doing to make sure

2479
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 24: you make a difference, like voting can only help you.

2480
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 24: Voting can help you get closer to the vision of

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01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 24: the community that you want. And I believe that you

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Speaker 24: are powerful enough to use all the power at your

2483
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 24: disposal to make the change that you want to see.

2484
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 24: And I think the way we encourage people to vote,

2485
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 24: because that young man is casting an early valot, he

2486
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 24: voted absent you already. But the way that you get

2487
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 24: people to vote is letting him know that they have power,

2488
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 24: like I'm not giving you power, you already have it,

2489
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 24: and then just making sure that there are enough avenues

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01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 24: for them to use it, and that they include voting

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01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 24: and how they make a difference.

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01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 12: It's not the only thing you can do.

2493
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 24: It's not everything you should do, but it's a necessary

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01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 24: thing you must do in order to make sure we

2495
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 24: can get closer and doing so at every level to

2496
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 24: make sure we have allies at the local, county, state,

2497
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 24: federal level we share our values and are going to

2498
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 24: help us get posted that vision.

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Speaker 12: That's what this is all about. And I think our people,

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01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 12: I think our.

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Speaker 24: Voters in Michigan, all ten million people in our state,

2502
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 24: are important enough to participate in that power.

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01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 12: So that's what I asked them I love to think about.

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01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 20: When they vote.

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01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Cliff, when they go to the blackest bus

2506
01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 4: in America, what are you telling them and say this

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01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 4: for Michigan and for black voters and other folks who

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01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 4: are watching at home.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 25: Yeah, So two things. One, Lieutenant Government stole my answer

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01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 25: because the way that yeah it was, and the way

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01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 25: that I answer that question around that closing argument really

2513
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 25: does depends on whom I'm talking to at that moment,

2514
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 25: because everybody's got a different issue that's their motivation, right,

2515
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 25: And so what I tell people was pick an issue.

2516
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 25: Whatever your issue is, it is on the ballot right now.

2517
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 25: If your issue is our health, it's on the ballot.

2518
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 25: If it's about abortion rights, it's about democracy, it's about

2519
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 25: our economy, our kids, our schools are housing.

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01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 10: All of that is on the ballot.

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01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 25: And so depending on who I'm talking to, I really

2522
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 25: try to speak to that and drive that point home.

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01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 25: And the overall thing is exactly again what Lieutenant Government

2524
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 25: said is that you've got the power to make a difference.

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01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 10: Right.

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01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 25: There's a story that I often tell I'm not gonna

2527
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 25: tell it now because it goes into some.

2528
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 12: History around Birmingham and Selma but.

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01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 25: It's basically the heart of the story is about how

2530
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 25: one person's decision, who wasn't overly political, he was a

2531
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 25: high school student at the time in Birmingham, but one

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01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 25: person's decision created a chain of reaction that led to Selma,

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01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 25: that led to Bloody Sun Day, that led to the

2534
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 25: Voting Rights Act, that has literally led in some ways

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01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:53,800
Speaker 25: to today. One person's decision to get involved literally changed

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01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 25: the course of history. And so the only question we

2537
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 25: really have to ask ourselves is what is our action

2538
01:59:58,760 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 25: going to be today?

2539
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 6: What is that step that we are going to take

2540
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 6: today that.

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Speaker 25: Might cause that ripple effect that can literally change the

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02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 25: future for us, our communities, this entire country. Each of

2543
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 25: us has the power to do that. Everybody we touch

2544
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 25: is an organizer, not just a voter that's important, but

2545
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 25: everybody we touches an organized who has the power to

2546
02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:20,560
Speaker 25: spread that message to five, ten or fifty other people us.

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02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 4: Well, they're so good. We up at the end of

2548
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 4: the show, y'all got closing thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, I am so happy that

2550
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:29,480
Speaker 1: we had so many black men on this show. You know,

2551
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 1: there's a narrative that tries to divide us, but I

2552
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 1: think these conversations are healing, not just in our politics

2553
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 1: and our policy, but in our personal community. We've never

2554
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 1: been such staunch advocates for this democracy that was placed

2555
02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 1: upon us. We've always voted in favor of harm reduction,

2556
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,120
Speaker 1: and we've built community with each other. So I really

2557
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:49,760
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys being open with your thoughts and showing

2558
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:52,000
Speaker 1: up today. I really and I'm happy to follow up

2559
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:55,920
Speaker 1: with you on any pistons, assistance questions, anything you need.

2560
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:58,120
Speaker 5: I'm there for you. It's too bad that Mike's didn't

2561
02:00:58,120 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 5: cut off.

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Speaker 6: You're out of time, you know. I like you. I

2563
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 6: enjoyed the conversation and the emphasis on black men, and

2564
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:09,920
Speaker 6: not through the lens that we've heard it necessarily through

2565
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 6: the national media, but moreover through personal, lived experiences that

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02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:17,080
Speaker 6: folks are reflecting on. And then my mind immediately jumped

2567
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:20,000
Speaker 6: to once we're through this election, how do we make

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02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 6: sure that the voices, the issues, the concerns of black

2569
02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:27,560
Speaker 6: men continue to be present, not as the community had

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02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 6: fault for a loss. And I won't even state the

2571
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 6: opposite of that, because we never get the benefit of

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02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 6: the privilege of being credited for the game. All the

2573
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 6: wins that we have been participatory and delivered on behalf

2574
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 6: of the candidate that we believed in, but the blame

2575
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 6: that we largely get. So just thinking in my head like, okay, well,

2576
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 6: what's our job now through this election to ensure that

2577
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Speaker 6: if we're centerfold to the conversation and the debate around

2578
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:57,880
Speaker 6: policy now, that we also be centerfold to that conversation

2579
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 6: when it's talking about advancing that the Congress initiative from

2580
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 6: the White House to Executive order, so on and so forth.

2581
02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 6: Because I have to tell you, if we're at this

2582
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 6: four years from now and our reflections are we're still

2583
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:13,000
Speaker 6: not seeing, not heard, not reflected, and no benefit, no game,

2584
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:15,880
Speaker 6: We're gonna have a hard road to hold trying to

2585
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 6: convince folks that it matters to vote and participate in

2586
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:20,240
Speaker 6: the process. And so I think that's a charge we

2587
02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 6: all ought to accept and figure out a solution for.

2588
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 4: Well, for those of you who joined us today in Detroit,

2589
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 4: what up though we saw.

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Speaker 5: At home? Thank you so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 4: This is episode forty six of Native Lampard and there

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Speaker 4: are only sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Days intel election.

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Speaker 4: I'm in this like I did my bet Cipher and

2595
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Speaker 4: say go vote.

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Speaker 5: We all.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the Natives intention of what the

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Speaker 2: info and all of the latest rock Gulam and cross

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Speaker 2: connective to the statements that you leave on our socials.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sincerely for the patients. Reason for your choice

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Speaker 2: is clear, so grateful it took the execute roles for

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Speaker 2: serve defending, protect the truth human if case.

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Speaker 5: It, we'll welcome home to all of the Natives.

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Speaker 20: We thank you.

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Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is the production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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