Speaker 1: Can I tell you about the least? I was just
Speaker 1: at the doctor's office. Can I tell you about the least?
Speaker 2: Can you do self hip violations?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not reading my No. This is from
Speaker 1: the elevator. Should the elevator doors fail to open, do
Speaker 1: not become alarmed. There's little danger of running out of
Speaker 1: air or of this elevator dropping uncontrollably. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, first of all, I was not worried about
Speaker 1: it running out of air until now.
Speaker 2: That was posted in the elevators.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, straight up.
Speaker 2: It makes sense in a medical building that people would
Speaker 2: immediately you'd be like, let's just get hey, let's just
Speaker 2: get this out of the way. It ain't like speed Okay.
Speaker 1: There is very little chance there is a bomb on
Speaker 1: this elevator. Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three
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Speaker 2: Have you read of Mongrel Alley? You are forty years young. Everybody,
Speaker 2: every all, my all, my friends turning forty this year. Anyway.
Speaker 2: It's also National Equal Payday. It's National Medal of Honor Day,
Speaker 2: unless you are a person of color, which it will
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Speaker 2: I didn't know what the fuck lobster Newburgh was, think
Speaker 2: I always heard it, but it looks like it's just
Speaker 2: like lobster in a bread bull, like lobster chowder and
Speaker 2: a bread bull. I'm fine with that. It's also Tolkien
Speaker 2: Reading Day. Shout everybody getting.
Speaker 1: Up on thinking about going going all hobbit and going
Speaker 1: hobbit with the eight year old. You know, I think
Speaker 1: he might be ready.
Speaker 2: What do you mean you? Oh you weren't gonna shave
Speaker 2: your feet today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna just let let my toes grow
Speaker 1: and just let my foot year old think think they're cool.
Speaker 2: Hey, once you get down here and braid this.
Speaker 1: Uh Now, I was gonna see if maybe uh I
Speaker 1: could read that to him.
Speaker 2: We'll see. Ready, he's ready for this.
Speaker 1: Be ready is the real quidding with the Yeah, my
Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, mister
Speaker 1: Miles grossm.
Speaker 4: I'm the guy who screens sand cries every time I
Speaker 4: order some Park fries no more for faking better taste
Speaker 4: like they're wrapped in bacon.
Speaker 1: And I'm not wrong. I'm no clown.
Speaker 2: I know they taste better fried in tallow half five
Speaker 2: guys turning red scream out on my fries?
Speaker 1: Ready yet?
Speaker 2: Okay? Shout out Hugo Boss for continuing the ure mind
Speaker 2: me Nickelback flow that was started by Jay Space and
Speaker 2: we and we still reference the tal leaf talent, the
Speaker 2: manly tallow fries. Thank you, shake steak shape, steak in shape.
Speaker 1: Yes. I feel like Nickelback should enter the you know,
Speaker 1: US v. Canada.
Speaker 2: They would probably fuck up a lot of people who
Speaker 2: think they're an American band. They were like, wait, my
Speaker 2: favorite American band, Nickelback is Canadia. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe a fans would know. That's like
Speaker 2: the first thing you learn as you enter the fandom
Speaker 2: myself included.
Speaker 1: As you enter the lower the law of the Nickelback
Speaker 1: being yeah, they're Canadian. I mean do they even have
Speaker 1: they even have Nichols up there? I thought they had
Speaker 1: moose Lornees or some ship. Yeah, Miles. We are thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined in our third seed by one of
Speaker 1: our favorite guests, a very funny comedian and activists, the
Speaker 1: host of the great award winning podcast Good Muslim, Bad Muslim,
Speaker 1: the senior Fellow on Comedy at the Pop Culture Collaborative.
Speaker 1: She's written in The New York Times, wrote and performed
Speaker 1: a piece on n p r's Fresh Air. It's the
Speaker 1: hilarious and talented Zara normal or great to have your
Speaker 1: uting to buy nor box?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who is a who is a huge Nickelback fan?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Huge fan?
Speaker 2: This Obama jacket I got was from Zara or a
Speaker 2: Big shopped a lot at Big Yeah. Yeah, but he
Speaker 2: likes to be on trend. He likes to be on trend.
Speaker 2: That was that was his downfall. People keep talking about
Speaker 2: why he got assassinated because he loved fast fashions, fashion
Speaker 2: trying to get in the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Why must that be who I share my
Speaker 3: name with?
Speaker 2: Man, It's fine. I think I think you're you're the
Speaker 2: You're the original, not.
Speaker 1: In my in my heart spelled differently, so great differently
Speaker 1: yeahz so hold that Zara?
Speaker 2: How have you been? Oh?
Speaker 3: My god, so good good, Oh my god, me too.
Speaker 3: I just feel like it's such a great time out there.
Speaker 1: So fun, so fun.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's cute.
Speaker 1: It's kind of cute, isn't it so cute?
Speaker 3: I think the collapse of government is adorable.
Speaker 1: I wake up and I look at the headlines and
Speaker 1: I say, cute, darling, that's cute.
Speaker 2: Cut.
Speaker 1: Well, great, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
Speaker 1: things we're talking about today. Heading into yesterday, we were
Speaker 1: already talked there's this like story about the JFK files
Speaker 1: that got released over it like an end of last
Speaker 1: week where they left all the social Security numbers and
Speaker 1: like birthplaces and birth dates of all the people in
Speaker 1: the documents. And then like when they got when it
Speaker 1: was like pointed out that it was like a major
Speaker 1: security violation, They're like, that's and that's how serious we
Speaker 1: are about transparency like that, like they did a good thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, these guys are really like
Speaker 1: America has never been so close to like a single
Speaker 1: Like I feel like one of the like dumb plots
Speaker 1: from a Diehard sequel. Maybe even like under Siege too
Speaker 1: dark territory could take out the entire US government right now,
Speaker 1: Like that's just so that That was my thought heading
Speaker 1: into yesterday, at which point the Trump Trump's like top
Speaker 1: cabinet officials included The Atlantic's editor in chief on a
Speaker 1: text thread about attacking the Houthis in Yemen and just yet,
Speaker 1: and we're just having a signal chat about that shit.
Speaker 1: Like it was just a group group chat. They put
Speaker 1: group chat for real. It was like just straight up
Speaker 1: a group chat. So we'll talk about that because there
Speaker 1: are there are very real, i don't know, espionage concerns.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big espionage guy.
Speaker 2: I'm not not big right now.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so cute right now.
Speaker 2: And it's being democratized that literally any funck wit can
Speaker 2: get into it now. True. Yeah, you just have to
Speaker 2: have a signal account and this is the potential for
Speaker 2: you to be let in on national security. See.
Speaker 3: That's how I know I can do it is when
Speaker 3: the funs can join in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, oh yeah, likes oh great, ye you
Speaker 2: the double O seven music. Because I'm in there.
Speaker 1: Usually much stupider than we think like, espionage is usually
Speaker 1: much stupider than we think, and this administration much stupider
Speaker 1: than we think.
Speaker 2: In many ways.
Speaker 1: So uh well, we'll talk about that, just a match
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Speaker 2: Real healthy, real healthy, sign of the times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hungry now, So we'll talk we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: But before we get to any of that stuff s,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guest, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history?
Speaker 3: Buckle buddies?
Speaker 2: Buckle buddies? Buckle buddies? Is that slang?
Speaker 3: No, I've got a toddler, mm hmm. Then buckle buddies
Speaker 3: are for you.
Speaker 2: What's buckle buddies?
Speaker 3: There are these little stuffed animals, okay, covered in buckles
Speaker 3: of a child. Good can just yeah buckle and unbuckle Yep,
Speaker 3: you know, goes around the house. Just buckle things together,
Speaker 3: so like the dog leashes are all buckled together when
Speaker 3: you go like.
Speaker 2: You king of leashes basically basically, yeah, she's wrecking. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's so many. It's funny. How Like I remember I
Speaker 2: got the geist Child one of these things. I was
Speaker 2: just a board with a bunch of switches on it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I bought that.
Speaker 2: He loves thatsh or loved it. No, no, no, it's
Speaker 2: just like it's like they called like there's always different
Speaker 2: names for it, but it has like literally just little
Speaker 2: light up switches. So he's just literally hit and switches
Speaker 2: that light up and buttons and it just it's not
Speaker 2: over and over again.
Speaker 3: It's just early Instagram basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the same intellectual and uh yeah, intellectual content.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna get myself like a buckle buddy
Speaker 3: for bed, you know what I mean, So I could
Speaker 3: stay off Instagram at night and yeah do.
Speaker 2: You like that kind of yeah, you like that kind
Speaker 2: of tactical kind of thing, you know, instead.
Speaker 3: Of like favoriting ship. Yeah yeah, like oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: like this is going to my shadow band followers of
Speaker 3: thirty if you roll.
Speaker 1: Over, you roll over to your partner in bed and
Speaker 1: you're like, look this one lit up, and then go
Speaker 1: back level flording flording, I mean, oh yeah, those those
Speaker 1: little ones. That's like a steering wheel with like a
Speaker 1: shift gear and then a bunch of flick switches and
Speaker 1: like a key that turns the tabletop. One man, I'd
Speaker 1: lose forty five minutes to one of those fuckers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it had when in the eighties, where like
Speaker 2: it looked like a little kind of like the road
Speaker 2: was moving, I remember, and it was just like a
Speaker 2: thing like it was like on a spool that just
Speaker 2: like was backlit. That gave the feeling of driving. I remember,
Speaker 2: and I was.
Speaker 3: I feel like you could take any millennial right now
Speaker 3: and we would just stare into that void.
Speaker 1: Just give me a spool, give me a spooling road escape.
Speaker 3: And I should be there for all.
Speaker 2: Why we're on a weird tight rope where we either
Speaker 2: gonna re get it together and we realize we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to really fight for everything, or we're just gonna
Speaker 2: be like what if? What if full House was my
Speaker 2: reality forever starting out?
Speaker 3: I feel like, but I feel like that's where we are.
Speaker 3: Is that like adrenaline paralysis, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: where you know it's coming and in your and your
Speaker 3: quads are just like frozen on the couch.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: But like mentally, you're like all Molotov cocktails.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like COURTI is all yeah,
Speaker 1: just all the cortisol is out.
Speaker 3: I'm in a good place. I'm in a good place.
Speaker 1: I think it's good.
Speaker 3: It's a buckle, buddy, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: Let me alone to just.
Speaker 1: Be like on a low level cortisol drip at all times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good for very good for our bodies. I
Speaker 2: think that's what we're designed for.
Speaker 1: Uh. What is some things are that you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Hell? Okay, interesting because most people would say that's the
Speaker 1: bon Okay, here we are.
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when we all were like I don't
Speaker 3: believe in Hell and I don't think Hell's real, and
Speaker 3: everybody calmed down right now I realized, like, okay, not
Speaker 3: only do I need Hell to be real, I don't
Speaker 3: know why I ever thought I was going there. You know,
Speaker 3: there is so much evil that I am so far
Speaker 3: away from.
Speaker 1: Do you think that I'm going to Hell?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3: I'm such a good person. All this time, I thought,
Speaker 3: oh man, because I like drank sometimes and I eat
Speaker 3: pork and I like pepperoni. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: we're talking Hell is for a scale we did not imagine, folks.
Speaker 2: It's gotten bad out there.
Speaker 1: I do wonder, and I think this is like what
Speaker 1: a lot of religion comes down to, is like does
Speaker 1: it great on a curve? If everybody got bad, which
Speaker 1: is like old Testament, they don't grate on a curve.
Speaker 1: They're like, this city got bad, and we're turning everyone
Speaker 1: to salt in the whole city. It's not like this
Speaker 1: guy was like top ten percent and not everybody's getting touched.
Speaker 1: Everybody's getting touched. This city was bad. We're gonna let
Speaker 1: one person survive in a boat with uh, with the animals.
Speaker 1: Everybody else is gone. So that's yeah, that would be
Speaker 1: my contention, is we're all going to hell.
Speaker 3: Maybe here's what I think. I think Sodom and Gomora,
Speaker 3: I think what we got there was a disinformation campaign. Sure,
Speaker 3: I think they all know and they were anti vacks,
Speaker 3: and that's actually what happened, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 3: I think it was like probably more of a hygiene issue.
Speaker 2: I think it could have been an experimental art piece
Speaker 2: or people want to just skuld we don't have salt
Speaker 2: and meant to be like, I don't know, they don't
Speaker 2: turn to salt.
Speaker 3: I think we don't know. We have to, we have
Speaker 3: to always be aware of disinformation campaigns. Now we can't.
Speaker 3: We can't look back on history without that lens.
Speaker 2: I remember when I asked my dad about that, maybe
Speaker 2: like when I was twelve or something, when I really
Speaker 2: kind of started thinking, like, wait, is this little bullshit?
Speaker 2: He goes. I remember him saying, goes, how do we
Speaker 2: know this is in hell? That's the question? Twelve, oh man?
Speaker 2: And that shit fucked with me. What do you mean
Speaker 2: that's like a Buddhist like or even purgatory. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: this could be purgatory. That like, who's to say whatever
Speaker 2: this existence is is not? And I just remember like,
Speaker 2: but he just said that shit to fuck with me though, too,
Speaker 2: And I was just like, Yo, what the dam?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: That is school? And it freaked all my friends out.
Speaker 3: I find myself daily hourly just going I hope Hell
Speaker 3: is real. I hope it's real.
Speaker 2: It is because it's it's for something. Is how vivid
Speaker 2: are the depictions of like hell for Muslims versus like Christian.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, fire brimstone.
Speaker 1: It's all you got a little fire and brim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some fire and brim, all right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey. And in that way there's more in common then
Speaker 2: there's there are differences.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We can all get behind hell, but.
Speaker 2: It ain't for us.
Speaker 1: The hell they're actually going to is the same hell
Speaker 1: that I think they're going to.
Speaker 2: And then is there like working class hell? And then
Speaker 2: like the people who control capital? Like, is it is
Speaker 2: there still? As a worker? Are you capable of doing
Speaker 2: evil that arises to Hell?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I realized is that Hell is a collective formulation of
Speaker 3: what we as the working class.
Speaker 2: Manifest Mmm, go on, what do you mean?
Speaker 3: We like, like an awesome improv herald. We build the
Speaker 3: experience of hell collectively for these fools, you know, like
Speaker 3: where's Waldo landscape?
Speaker 2: And we are Hell for them?
Speaker 3: I mean our vision of it.
Speaker 2: I see, I see, I see, I see.
Speaker 3: You know what we put see I see?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Some people might put nickelback in there?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you lost me. No okay, I'm
Speaker 2: doing that. I'm not today, Satan. I saw you tried,
Speaker 2: you tried, Satan. Nope, not today.
Speaker 1: Nickelbacks saved rock and roll music from those devil worshiping
Speaker 1: Motley Crewe hair Metal E. C. D. C. Nickelbacker descent,
Speaker 1: decent folk. By the way, my buckle buddies. I wonder
Speaker 1: if we could just give Elon Musk a couple buckle buddies.
Speaker 1: And did you see him with those falls, those spoons
Speaker 1: and shit, Yeah, I wonder if we could just get
Speaker 1: him stemming on like some buckle buddies.
Speaker 3: And this is what I'm saying. I think we need
Speaker 3: to just.
Speaker 1: Out one of those one of those steering wheel things
Speaker 1: with the with the scrolling streetscape. I feel like we
Speaker 1: might be able to save some jobs here. I don't know, Zara,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: Overrated? Is I don't want to hear about any more
Speaker 3: canaries the sole term. I'm so over this, Like, oh,
Speaker 3: there are the canaries in the coal mine. These folks
Speaker 3: are the canaries and the col gosms or the canaries
Speaker 3: in the coal mine.
Speaker 2: Horrifying hearing.
Speaker 3: I keep hearing ship like this, you know, or like
Speaker 3: people protesting Gaza. Now are the canaries in the coal mine?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: You know, because well, for one, they test a lot
Speaker 3: of artillery and arms on Palestinians.
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, that's how.
Speaker 3: Urban Shield was created was like Urban Shield would get
Speaker 3: trained in Gaza and then come here, you know, with
Speaker 3: all their right gear and ship and like. But I
Speaker 3: just like I keep hearing like there's a difference between
Speaker 3: understanding causality and like regularly trying to maintain a sense
Speaker 3: of urgency by warning us of these canaries in the
Speaker 3: many dead canaries.
Speaker 1: I know this doesn't actually matter because these are Muslim people,
Speaker 1: but if you imagine you're the person, then maybe it matter.
Speaker 2: Just to.
Speaker 1: Or maybe canary in the coal WHOA, Okay, so look
Speaker 1: we get it. Those are birds, right, we understand that
Speaker 1: those are birds over there, but birds aren't real. But
Speaker 1: what if you are hit by.
Speaker 2: What if you are bird? Yeah? I haven't saw I
Speaker 2: saw another one about how Costco was like lowering prices
Speaker 2: and like so many comments like it's a canary in
Speaker 2: the coal mine, that's for the economy.
Speaker 3: Costco at this point, with like the collapse of so
Speaker 3: many federal programs and jobs, are they canaries anymore like
Speaker 3: the literal coal mine has collapsed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's more so. It's more so that like
Speaker 2: the distance that that metaphor gives. It's like, well, okay,
Speaker 2: if the canary die, then we got we got some
Speaker 2: time to figure it. Look, now you think about that,
Speaker 2: it's like, bro, no, we are dead in the coal mine.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, everybody else in the world is here's
Speaker 1: a mirror? What?
Speaker 2: Yes, you're all canaries? Yes, trick question, everyone's a canary. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My neighbors on both sides their house just blew up
Speaker 1: their real canaries and coal mine. I don't yeah, because
Speaker 1: they're not me, so they can't be real.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: It's just the canaries and coal mine.
Speaker 3: When your house burned down, it was a real.
Speaker 1: Miles house.
Speaker 2: For some of my neighbors down the block who also
Speaker 2: lost their home, one of them the canary in the
Speaker 2: coal mine. Yeah, that's that's what that is, right there.
Speaker 2: No run or rather it's time. It's here is bad,
Speaker 2: will get worse.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that should be how we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Unless you don't fight and let them just punch themselves
Speaker 2: out like the Democrats are hoping they'll do.
Speaker 1: You know, but where we never start punching at the
Speaker 1: end of the fight.
Speaker 3: Is that the Democrats are doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so you've heard of the ropodope, right, Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 1: Let George Foreman punch him out until he's tired and
Speaker 1: then beats shipp out George Foreman like the seventh round
Speaker 1: once he's tired of. So what this presupposes is what
Speaker 1: if he never fought back? I think, Yeah, this one
Speaker 1: is just punch the sh out of him for the
Speaker 1: whole fight.
Speaker 2: Dude, If you just let him punch the ship out
Speaker 2: of you the whole time, eventually he's gonna die because
Speaker 2: he's gonna need a break from he's so tired, and
Speaker 2: then he will die and then you win.
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for this guy to collapse over here.
Speaker 1: There's no fighting back.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, just.
Speaker 1: Take let's take let's take a quick break, and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and we'll talk about how we're as part
Speaker 1: as part of the Deep Steak were very concerned. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back, and we're back, and I are. The
Speaker 1: JFK files were dropped at the end of last week.
Speaker 5: No no.
Speaker 1: Reactions, I are They a lot of bombshells that no, no,
Speaker 1: nobody seemed to social Security numbers. Yeah, the big bombshells
Speaker 1: that were promised were not there. But there were some little,
Speaker 1: little tasty treats for people who are into identity theft
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. They just left the social security numbers, birthplaces,
Speaker 1: and birth dates of hundreds of staffers involved with various committees.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming some of which are still alive to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of them are still a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Washington Post discovered more than one hundred social security
Speaker 1: numbers of staff members of the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
Speaker 1: White House has tried to suggest that this was a
Speaker 1: totally on purpose and be a good thing. What Yeah.
Speaker 1: Trump said that we didn't want anything deleted and then
Speaker 1: bragged that even released the social security numbers. That's how
Speaker 1: serious we are about transparency.
Speaker 2: I think that quote. The rest of that quote. They said, sir,
Speaker 2: what about social security numbers? But they're long gone. I
Speaker 2: can't I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: They said, sir, what about social security numbers?
Speaker 2: They're long gone?
Speaker 3: Long god, oh yeah, because most of the people.
Speaker 1: I think you're saying, most of the people are dead
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine a single one of them being alive.
Speaker 1: And he's incorrect. There's like people who are still alive,
Speaker 1: and it violates us privacy law. But overall, we have
Speaker 1: sense of this, like I'm not.
Speaker 2: Way Jack skated over that is kind of where we're
Speaker 2: at those as a country and in finally as privacy laws,
Speaker 2: and we're all like, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: Do we have those at alls? Yeah. The bottom line
Speaker 1: is that social security numbers are among the most prized
Speaker 1: data that the US government seeks to protect. Sought to
Speaker 1: protect is more accurate. It is an egregious breach. And
Speaker 1: he's like, and that's how serious we are about getting
Speaker 1: getting the truth out. Yeah. One of the people who
Speaker 1: social security numbers leak was former Trump campaign lawyer Joseph
Speaker 1: de Geneva. Says he's planning to sue the US National
Speaker 1: Archives and Records Administration, calling it first grade, elementary level
Speaker 1: rule of security to redact things like that. It just
Speaker 1: feels like so I was like, I really feel like
Speaker 1: you could get the US government, like you could steal
Speaker 1: all the money in America from like it's just like literallypetent, right,
Speaker 1: Like everything is so dumb and incompetent. So that was
Speaker 1: my thought heading into today, heading into yesterday. There there
Speaker 1: was also some stories over the weekend about how the
Speaker 1: intelligence community not my favorites. Not a huge CIA guy personally,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. John Krazinski, who played a CIA agent and
Speaker 1: then immediately started telling people in interviews, you should be
Speaker 1: grateful for the CIA. They're out there protecting you. Every
Speaker 1: single they lost. Yeah, it turns out they yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they were good at their job. I
Speaker 1: don't think we'd be in this mess that we're in
Speaker 1: right now. I'll tell you that much, folks. But so
Speaker 1: they are concerned. The intelligence community is concerned because so
Speaker 1: a big thing. On average, the federal government loses one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand employees they retire, they leave for the private
Speaker 1: sector every year, one hundred thousand, and they need to
Speaker 1: guard against those people becoming assets because being a part
Speaker 1: of federal like being a federal employee, you have access
Speaker 1: to high level secure information. So people are like, the
Speaker 1: federal government has lost like three x, Like they've lost
Speaker 1: like two to three hundred thousand employees already this year
Speaker 1: because of all the dose job cuts like that. Any
Speaker 1: agencies from rival countries are going are just probably having
Speaker 1: a field day right now, unless, of course, the Trump
Speaker 1: administration is extra competent, extra staffed up, and ready to
Speaker 1: like vet and track this bumper crop of former employees
Speaker 1: who are actively pissed off at the United States.
Speaker 3: They're also out of money, like it desperately in need
Speaker 3: of cash for like kids with asthma, and like you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: their health benefits.
Speaker 2: They're McDonald's bill that they've been cutting off for weeks
Speaker 2: now because of If you made.
Speaker 1: A movie about those people right now, it would be
Speaker 1: hard to make them the antagust you know what.
Speaker 2: You want me to do? Bro, The only ask that
Speaker 2: I have now is to tell somebody some ship I
Speaker 2: learned when I worked at my last job that fucked
Speaker 2: me over in my last country. Yeah, because you think
Speaker 2: about how like all this stuff like when people are
Speaker 2: like Bro the lead the recipe for red lobster Cheddar
Speaker 2: Bay biscuits came out, Oh, the recipe for the fucking
Speaker 2: secretly guarded uh Popeye's chicken whatever. It's like, it's always
Speaker 2: somebody who worked there who doesn't give a fuck anymore.
Speaker 2: It was like, brother, that's how you fucking make it.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck I don't all them ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say fuck with unite.
Speaker 1: All the dumb siren call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all fucking it's all terrifying, and it's all
Speaker 2: true and it's all hilarious.
Speaker 1: It's just like the levels of incompetence, like I do
Speaker 1: think Trump is sometimes underrated. Like we look at a
Speaker 1: thing he does and we're like, well that's stupid, and
Speaker 1: it's actually like shrewd, it is stupid, but we live
Speaker 1: in a stupid world. And he like is going to
Speaker 1: get the thing that he wants eventually. But the people
Speaker 1: working under him in this administration seem wildly incompetent.
Speaker 3: Actually worse, I mean on an espionage scale. It is
Speaker 3: pretty genius.
Speaker 2: These guys are great. We love them.
Speaker 3: So I watched The Americans on Effects every single season,
Speaker 3: front to back and three times.
Speaker 2: I know how this works upside down in every which way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this this latest story, yeah from the was
Speaker 2: this was the background heading into Monday when we got
Speaker 2: word that they just had a group chat where they're
Speaker 2: planning the bombing of Houthi rebels and Yemen and they
Speaker 2: just added the editor in chief of The Atlantic by accident.
Speaker 2: This it's actually it's really I normally am not like
Speaker 2: this thing in the Atlantic is worth reading, but in
Speaker 2: this very specific incident, like I'm just say, I mean
Speaker 2: for this just to understand how bumbling this is. It's wild.
Speaker 2: So it started off the editor in chief this guy,
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Goldberg. He found out that. He's like, he's like,
Speaker 2: I found Pete Hegseth texted me the details. A lot
Speaker 2: of people are looking at that specific reference, but what
Speaker 2: really happened. It wasn't Pete Hegseth added him. He was
Speaker 2: just on Signal and he got a request from someone
Speaker 2: named Michael Waltz. And this is on the encrypted messaging
Speaker 2: app Signal, and he's like, hmm. He's like, maybe this
Speaker 2: is some Project Veritas kind of shit or some some
Speaker 2: foreign power trying to influence me. He's like, because why
Speaker 2: the fuck would National Security Advisor Michael Waltz want to
Speaker 2: chat on Signal unless he's trying to tell me, like
Speaker 2: some insider shit I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, fuck man, or I don't know you're trying
Speaker 1: to hit.
Speaker 2: W I d W you w Y would you do it?
Speaker 2: So then he's just like whatever, let me just I'll
Speaker 2: accept and see what happens. This This is this is
Speaker 2: the from his writing in Atlantic Quote. Two days later,
Speaker 2: on Thursday, I received to notice that I was to
Speaker 2: be included in a Signal chat group. It was called
Speaker 2: the Houthy PC Small Group. A message to the group
Speaker 2: from Michael Waltz read as Follow's team establishing a principals
Speaker 2: group for coordination on Hoothy's particularly over the next seventy
Speaker 2: two hours. My Deputy Alex Wog is pulling together a
Speaker 2: Tiger team at deputy's agency chief of staff level, following
Speaker 2: up from the meeting in the situation room this morning
Speaker 2: for action items, and we'll be sending that out later
Speaker 2: this evening. And so everybody's like, please provide the best
Speaker 2: staff point of contact from your team for us to coordinate.
Speaker 2: And in floods all these people like there's like mar
Speaker 2: who he believes is Marco Antonio. Rubio is saying, hit up,
Speaker 2: so and so at State TG Tulci Gabbard, Susan Wilds,
Speaker 2: the Chief chief of Staff, Scott Bessett, the Treasury Secretary
Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth from DoD His name was just Pete Hegseeth.
Speaker 2: Another person named.
Speaker 5: Sm Pete didn't Nja Goebbels himself like fucking everybody is
Speaker 5: on this motherfucking thread.
Speaker 2: So then just goes on, all right, let me just
Speaker 2: fucking lurk. See what happens. Turns out very mile he
Speaker 2: thought it was I like that.
Speaker 1: I like this line of reason where he's just like
Speaker 1: I thought it was a prank. That's why I didn't
Speaker 1: say anything, right, good man, Yeah we believe you. I'll
Speaker 1: just go ahead and trust that.
Speaker 2: But here's the one time where just don't just just
Speaker 2: lay down and die, just play possum for a second.
Speaker 2: This actually may and also credit to him because this
Speaker 2: could have been in a book that comes out seven
Speaker 2: years after the fact. Yeah, like we see a lot
Speaker 2: with like the bumbling in this administration. But anyway, so
Speaker 2: they're starting to plan this. They're like he's seeing them
Speaker 2: talk about the execution and planning of attacks against Uthi's
Speaker 2: and Yemen. The thread even shows like that there were
Speaker 2: some disagreements on policy like JD like JD Vance is
Speaker 2: on there wasn't really that hot on doing something that
Speaker 2: wasn't in line with this sort of fuck the world
Speaker 2: America first agenda, while heg Seth and teenage mutant Ninja
Speaker 2: Gebels wanted military action like his all things like advances
Speaker 2: like I don't want to like we don't really do
Speaker 2: much trading through the Suez Canal, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: if we really benefit from this. It's like the Europeans
Speaker 2: actually benefit from us like bringing like stability to these
Speaker 2: shipping canals again because they're hijacking ships, attacking ships, you know,
Speaker 2: putting trying to put pressure on the Israeli government to
Speaker 2: cease the genocide in Gaza. So then you have hag
Speaker 2: Sets say, VP, I fully share your loathing of European
Speaker 2: free loading. It's pathetic, but Mike is correct, goes on
Speaker 2: this other thing. Then Steven Miller chimes it, as I
Speaker 2: heard the president was clear green light, but we soon
Speaker 2: make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return.
Speaker 2: We also need to figure out how to enforce such
Speaker 2: a requirement. So goes through this and being like, we
Speaker 2: can't do this for free. We need to extract some
Speaker 2: kind of benefit from people if this all goes through.
Speaker 2: So then he realizes how like real this was when
Speaker 2: the fucking this this attack goes down exactly how it's
Speaker 2: described on March fifteenth, and he's like, holy shit. So
Speaker 2: then reaches out to people, being like, y'all, I was
Speaker 2: on here, can you do you care to like comment
Speaker 2: on this because there's so many problems with this obviously
Speaker 2: on top of like the continued fighting in Yemen, and
Speaker 2: this is clearly just to keep the flame alive to
Speaker 2: continue like belligerence towards Iran. That's like the whole point
Speaker 2: of a lot like this talk because even hag Set
Speaker 2: says like we just got to pound the message. This
Speaker 2: is about Iran. It's about Iran. They are also they're
Speaker 2: using like signal and sending emojis to each other, like
Speaker 2: after fifty three people are killed in this attack, like
Speaker 2: they're talking about how their sales presentation went well at
Speaker 2: the holiday inn express.
Speaker 1: What shit? What emojis are they using?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, fucking American flag flex here here, let me
Speaker 2: just share my sally quick Yes dude, that people are
Speaker 2: doing fi set ficep flex right after here's one Michael
Speaker 2: Waltz fift pound flag flame emoji.
Speaker 1: Wow, oh god man, those people love the fist pound
Speaker 1: they really do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, really awesome. We really close the deal. I
Speaker 2: think we got that contract.
Speaker 3: For for those gargage tracks.
Speaker 2: But then like even like we were saying, like I thought,
Speaker 2: they're like there are slash used to be laws about
Speaker 2: this kind of shit, like he Goldberg also noticed that
Speaker 2: some of the messages were meant to disappear after a
Speaker 2: week or two weeks, and like, well, let us the
Speaker 2: Presidential Records Act that you're supposed to preserve all these
Speaker 2: communications when you're in cabinet positions. Then there's the whole
Speaker 2: I mean, we're so far past this, but like you know,
Speaker 2: the whole sensitive information thing, her emails, servers and shit
Speaker 2: like that. But again, it's just wild to see them
Speaker 2: bumble even fucking harder than the people they accused of
Speaker 2: putting quote national security at risk. Yeah, and yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just it's it's all, it's all a clown show.
Speaker 1: I think, like generally it's probably a great thing that
Speaker 1: the US is getting worse at its main export of
Speaker 1: like killing innocent people around the world. But it's just
Speaker 1: it is going to be bad for this country, and
Speaker 1: then they're going to use it, essentially like a false
Speaker 1: flag attack, to be like, well now we more than
Speaker 1: ever we need to double and triple down to protect
Speaker 1: ourselves from an increasingly dangerous world, without admitting that the
Speaker 1: reason it's getting increasingly dangerous is because you suck shit
Speaker 1: at your job.
Speaker 3: This isn't the shit that's like paradoxically bizarre about destabilization,
Speaker 3: right that, like we use so much cognitive dissonance, is
Speaker 3: like the they have compromised national security, so significantly, right,
Speaker 3: with all the firings, with the mass deportations, with the
Speaker 3: president attempting to impeach a judge because he disagreed with him.
Speaker 3: You know, there's so many levels with terror with Elon
Speaker 3: Musk's like, you know, how many countless things he's bungled that,
Speaker 3: like like all of having all of our social security,
Speaker 3: you know, in these like unvetted twenty year olds working
Speaker 3: in his office, and then for them to be like,
Speaker 3: but there are terrorists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what are you like, y'all?
Speaker 3: This real canary in the coal mine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, real, these are and these and the canaries are
Speaker 2: the government.
Speaker 1: In many ways. The JFK leak was a canary in
Speaker 1: the coal mine canary and the something that was already
Speaker 1: happening because before that.
Speaker 2: But but what's wild to the National Security Council when
Speaker 2: you know, Goldberg was like, y'all, what the what have
Speaker 2: you to say about this fuck up? They put very
Speaker 2: much more like just like the JFK stuff. Quote. This
Speaker 2: is what the National Security Council spokesperson said. At this time.
Speaker 2: The message thread that was reported appears to be authentic,
Speaker 2: and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added
Speaker 2: to the chain. The thread is a demonstration of the
Speaker 2: deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing
Speaker 2: success of the Hoothy operation demonstrates that there were no
Speaker 2: threats to our service members of our national security.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: The group just read.
Speaker 1: Is that the group chat was the emojis. Seriously, we
Speaker 1: take this with the pound flex flag fire emojis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the closest we've gotten is like, you know,
Speaker 2: some like democrats being like people need to be fired.
Speaker 2: But they said it like that, so it's not very
Speaker 2: forceful when you go, I think heads should roll, I
Speaker 2: don't know, Okay, bye by.
Speaker 3: This is the one time he should fire people?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just you just can't. And then it's what's
Speaker 2: so funny is like I'm just reminded of this moment
Speaker 2: where Pete Hegseth was, you know, next to President Trump
Speaker 2: talking about like this what this new regime meets meant
Speaker 2: a means for you know, America's standing in the world,
Speaker 2: and just listening to this, it hits so much different. Well,
Speaker 2: under the previous administration, we looked like fools.
Speaker 1: Not anymore.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, exactly, not anymore.
Speaker 1: Not anymore. We seem to be the person who's catching
Speaker 1: the most flame emojis. He seems to be under flame emoji,
Speaker 1: flame emoji fire for what he hit his part in this,
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, he was the person who like added him.
Speaker 2: Well no, but he didn't. That's the thing is like,
Speaker 2: if people bothered to read the article, Pete Hegseth didn't
Speaker 2: add him. Michael Waltz added him. But again it shows
Speaker 2: like sort of like you know, outrage, sort of thinking
Speaker 2: when you just want to be mad at Pete Hegseth
Speaker 2: and you go, look how drunk the guy is. He
Speaker 2: texted the like the most dumb version of the story.
Speaker 2: Someone reduced it to Pete Hegseth got drunk and then
Speaker 2: randomly texted someone from the Atlantic what was about to
Speaker 2: go down? When really this is a failure from the
Speaker 2: National Security advisor on down. But look I get it,
Speaker 2: and they call him the d U I higher.
Speaker 1: Now that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm seeing m Let's take a quick break
Speaker 2: and we'll come back and talk about Klarna.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and it's time to talk about Clarina County.
Speaker 3: No Swedish of Golden Klarna.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's offensive. Star pot of gold, we suck money.
Speaker 2: That all the all the anti Irish jokes. That's the
Speaker 2: real canary in the coal mine.
Speaker 1: That's a rough for that. There might be a.
Speaker 2: Problem with hate and the discrimination of this.
Speaker 3: Good looking out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's actually an AI powered Swedish by Now
Speaker 1: pay later lending company. I don't know how it's AI
Speaker 1: powered other than maybe like how they target their ads.
Speaker 3: But does the power now just mean like no one knows.
Speaker 2: It's yeah know, they just say it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: use algori algorithms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, we're not in charge of us,
Speaker 3: so that's not.
Speaker 2: For us to be like, wow, the AI powered surfdom service,
Speaker 2: Like we don't give a fuck about that. It's for
Speaker 2: like that's all Wall Street ship Like that's why in
Speaker 2: a CNBC article it's like it's a eye powered everybody.
Speaker 1: When we were down in Austin for south By Southwest,
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about and this was not like talking
Speaker 1: to me like I'd like I wasn't there for this,
Speaker 1: but like overhearing people talking in the lobby, all they
Speaker 1: were talking about was like yeah, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: intrigued and interested to be here. To see how AI
Speaker 1: operates in a more corporate corporate atmosphere and like see
Speaker 1: some presentations on that, like another person being like, that's
Speaker 1: actually what I'm here for. I'm interested in seeing how
Speaker 1: AI operates and can like hypercharge.
Speaker 2: Corporate and some dude popped out of a garbage can
Speaker 2: AI hold on corporate?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm miss is call center powered?
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, right, exactly, we're gonna get that is maybe
Speaker 1: that is what the AI powered thing is. Is they
Speaker 1: they've unloaded all customer service onto AI. In fact, I
Speaker 1: think that's right. Yeah. Yeah, So anyways, what they do
Speaker 1: is they will pay for your food. Now you just
Speaker 1: you just put it up to the gods of Klarena
Speaker 1: and they'll pay for your food. End of story. Oh wait, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You do have to pay them back, but
Speaker 1: the loan does not accrue interest late fees.
Speaker 2: So think of it more like your.
Speaker 1: Local public library. If the local public library actually sent
Speaker 1: your ship to collections and ruined your fucking credit and
Speaker 1: do a glue over time. Yeah they do. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of fuck we're involved here, But they
Speaker 1: just announced that they're going to be partnering with Door
Speaker 1: Dash to help people who are in financial trouble but
Speaker 1: still want somebody to drive an RB sandwich to their home.
Speaker 1: Now you can use Klara catching straight.
Speaker 3: Wait, I have an idea. What if instead of mortgage
Speaker 3: backed securities we do door dash Klarna backed security.
Speaker 2: That's essentially what God, Yeah, that's God, that's to happen.
Speaker 3: We we can just fund the federal government right.
Speaker 2: When, because everyone is going to debt trying to eat food.
Speaker 1: That sounds like you're trying to make something part a
Speaker 1: public thing that we everything is better privatized, everything is
Speaker 1: better practice, and we're gonna explain why.
Speaker 2: Because, like you know, Clarina and that's after pay. That
Speaker 2: kind of thing really rose to prominence, especially during the
Speaker 2: lockdowns and pandemic, and people were just like, yeah, fuck it,
Speaker 2: I'll just put I'll just do everything on Klara or
Speaker 2: after pay, and I can consume fucking like a just
Speaker 2: like a wild animal, and just just make sure I
Speaker 2: hit my four payments. But ship, that's such a slippery
Speaker 2: slope like that, there's so many people in fucking debt
Speaker 2: over their hyper consumption that's made very easy for this
Speaker 2: ship like this, And now we're at the point that
Speaker 2: it's food.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what, I'm going to go out
Speaker 3: on a limb here. I'm going to go out on
Speaker 3: a limb here. I'm going to say, if you're out there,
Speaker 3: you need an Arby's that bad? You just hit up
Speaker 3: your buddy Jack. He's gonna pay for it.
Speaker 2: I'll pay for your its armies.
Speaker 1: Oh boy. Yeah yeah yeah, So this.
Speaker 3: This news, you can give it him in four payments.
Speaker 1: I will. I will be charging interest unlike Clarna, no
Speaker 1: late fees. But that that clock starts ticking immediately the
Speaker 1: second you say yes, it's Oh, the big is nasty.
Speaker 1: The big is nasty. So Clarina is preparing to go public.
Speaker 1: So this was a big announcement because you know, the
Speaker 1: stock market fucking loves evil, loves anything that's bad. Force
Speaker 1: like people who don't have stock, Like that's what they're
Speaker 1: looking for.
Speaker 3: Saying y'all just hold out for help, just just hold
Speaker 3: out for hell for these folks.
Speaker 1: Shake them upside down by their by their ankles. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's basically a more AI driven version of
Speaker 1: a credit card in the sense that like you can't
Speaker 1: get anybody on the phone, so like there are all
Speaker 1: these horror stories of people, you know, getting charged late
Speaker 1: fees or like what one guy you know lost access
Speaker 1: to his Klarna account because of you know, just changing
Speaker 1: phone carriers and there's like a weird glitch couldn't get
Speaker 1: into his old account and couldn't pay off his balance,
Speaker 1: and it like financially destroyed him because because there's just
Speaker 1: like nobody to talk to.
Speaker 2: It's but he did get that sick bomber jacket off
Speaker 2: zar so Zara.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. How else are you going to
Speaker 3: get past fashion?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the late fees are as high as twenty
Speaker 1: five percent of the total of the loan. So this
Speaker 1: is the thing. So let's say you buy the bomber
Speaker 1: the czar R bomber jacket sick from one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: You pay it off it the first three payments, but
Speaker 1: you're late on the last one. You will owe like
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the total. You'll you'll owe fifty
Speaker 1: dollars at that point because it's twenty five percent of
Speaker 1: the initial loan. Is like what they charge it on,
Speaker 1: not on like what's left. But yeah, there's just like
Speaker 1: all sorts of tricky shit.
Speaker 3: This is like an ADHD nightmare.
Speaker 1: Exactly. It's just a way of monetizing the fact that
Speaker 1: they're ADHD people in America.
Speaker 3: Because everything you just said, the math in my brain
Speaker 3: just went, it's.
Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, this is easy. Twenty five percent that's low,
Speaker 2: like a hundred would be high. Yeah, twenty five fine,
Speaker 2: like whatever, it's like a quarter that's a coin. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. People's understanding of that kind of stuff is
Speaker 2: really bizarre. And like, yet this this like buy now,
Speaker 2: pay later, shit, it is so destructive because it sort
Speaker 2: of plays into this thing. It's like, no, you don't
Speaker 2: need all that money now to get thing you want.
Speaker 2: Just just do it this way and you can still
Speaker 2: have whatever fucking thing it is.
Speaker 3: Do we need to further crush Americans?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can make if you can put
Speaker 1: it on the stock ticker and make money off it,
Speaker 1: it's going to happen, you know. That's that's all.
Speaker 2: Everywhere celebrate Like this reads so bad if you look
Speaker 2: at just the progression of things right now that now
Speaker 2: we're saying fast food can be you can finance get
Speaker 2: food in installments in an installment plan. God, Like that's absurd.
Speaker 2: And I know, I'm sure the version like in the
Speaker 2: boardroom is like, it's not bad because people can't afford food.
Speaker 2: It's because we got a lot of these young people
Speaker 2: they just using door dash and they're they're kind of
Speaker 2: using it outside their means, So why don't we allow
Speaker 2: that to be a thing they can just throw on
Speaker 2: the you know, down the road debt pile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they call it p NPL by now pay late
Speaker 1: in case se BNPL. BNPL is a really hot growth
Speaker 1: sector on the economy.
Speaker 6: It is I know, bro, I know people, I know
Speaker 6: motherfuckers who are fucking around with that ship, just copping
Speaker 6: nonsense because it's like the initial pain is like, oh,
Speaker 6: I don't have to pay at right now, and then
Speaker 6: you lose track of a couple of things and you're
Speaker 6: fucking it's like thousands of dollars happened like overnight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like it's like not very centralized, and
Speaker 1: so like one loan, if you don't like pay off
Speaker 1: one loan, it's like, yeah, it's easy to lose track.
Speaker 3: All of this makes me feel very violent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they have not learned the lesson,
Speaker 1: you know that like there's more people than there are
Speaker 1: of them, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and yeah, their number the ratios aren't really in
Speaker 2: their favor there.
Speaker 3: But I mean, let's ignore that. We're like, you know,
Speaker 3: clearly moving towards like you know, prison labor, indentured servitude,
Speaker 3: and like they're gonna pretty towards a real yeah moving
Speaker 3: it's a canarian the coal mine.
Speaker 2: It's a real canary. Yeah, those those juvenile prisoners who
Speaker 2: are fighting fires a couple of months ago, a real
Speaker 2: canary in the cold mine situation.
Speaker 3: This RB sandwich of a canary. But I mean I'm
Speaker 3: a fan of just like, put a lot on a
Speaker 3: credit card, steal a social.
Speaker 2: Bound you could be you could be Joe Degenova racking
Speaker 2: up all this.
Speaker 3: There's like a we have a whole list of social
Speaker 3: securities to steal right now, K social Security, put your
Speaker 3: klarna on it, and then rack up some RB's on JFK.
Speaker 1: It's being called a quote credit trap encourages more spending
Speaker 1: and over spending and can easily lead you into more
Speaker 1: death and you need. One study found that a third
Speaker 1: of buy Now Pay Later b n p L customers
Speaker 1: headlans that had become unmanageable, and borrowers were falling behind
Speaker 1: on housing payments or utility bills. To keep up with
Speaker 1: credit payments. So this is.
Speaker 2: Honestly, this is like one of the more frightening headlines
Speaker 2: of anything. Like even the fucking Signal Group chat about
Speaker 2: bombing Yemen. I'm like that one gives me hope.
Speaker 1: The Signal Group chat, Yeah, yep, they're so sweated it
Speaker 1: that like it'll it will somehow fall apart.
Speaker 2: It just says so much about what our consumption habits are,
Speaker 2: what people's financial situation is, the way we look at.
Speaker 1: It, yeah, the way we can blame the people. It's
Speaker 1: just like there's so much look at it.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the sophistication, like the level of sophistication that
Speaker 1: is going into like creating this company, investing this company,
Speaker 1: making like these Like one of their ads was like
Speaker 1: a like two thousands nostalgia ad where like Paris hill
Speaker 1: to and buys an ice cream cone and like some
Speaker 1: fucking you know canine like dog fit fashion accessories.
Speaker 2: Because I got to see how this is. Let's let's
Speaker 2: just cut out.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing I think it was Super.
Speaker 2: Bowl, all right.
Speaker 1: So she pulls up.
Speaker 2: What she sees a DOCS and oh this commercial, Well,
Speaker 2: she gotta find another dog she can abandon stretch your
Speaker 2: payments with klarna.
Speaker 1: Stretch your payments with klarna.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's sweet.
Speaker 2: No, that's diabolical.
Speaker 3: Okay. I've got a little story. When I was in Iran,
Speaker 3: there was this like day every at the end of
Speaker 3: the week, my grandma and other grandmas in the neighborhood
Speaker 3: just made giant pots of food for everyone who needed it.
Speaker 3: And people would come and little kids would stop by
Speaker 3: and say, hey, uh my mom and dad just had
Speaker 3: another baby. They want me to And she would come
Speaker 3: with the little tupperware, the little girl, and like, folks
Speaker 3: from all over the town would come with tupperware and
Speaker 3: just take pots of food back with them for somebody
Speaker 3: who was having knee surgery, somebody who was sick that week, somebody.
Speaker 2: Especially really smart.
Speaker 1: What kind of action would she get, Like what kind
Speaker 1: of the interest rate was she charging on that?
Speaker 2: How many payments?
Speaker 1: Yeah, would so she got like twice the food, she
Speaker 1: got twice the food back.
Speaker 3: You did it for your neighbors. You just did it.
Speaker 3: You mayage a bunch of food.
Speaker 2: You bring up. You better make a lot of fashion
Speaker 2: June when you come back. If you're not coming with
Speaker 2: a miss me with that sob story, and this is
Speaker 2: not crunchy fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, this is what we gotta do for that, right.
Speaker 2: No, it's true. I mean it's it.
Speaker 3: Now we have meal trains and we give people these
Speaker 3: like door dash gift certificates, and it's like we have
Speaker 3: to get down on the ground. We gotta get we
Speaker 3: gotta cook for each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's yeah, I do feel like this is
Speaker 1: like that there's a lot of content out there that's like,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about people's financial illiteracy, and I do
Speaker 1: think like that that is a real problem for sure
Speaker 1: in this world that praise on financial illiteracy, but it's
Speaker 1: also like harder and there is more predatory forces out
Speaker 1: there trying to pray on your financial illiteracy than ever before.
Speaker 1: Like this is as difficult as it's ever been to
Speaker 1: navigate the world and not get fucked over like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a bad idea, but I totally
Speaker 1: understand like why somebody will be like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like the in the future, I'll have money to pay
Speaker 1: those back and I'm hungry now, Like that's it's built
Speaker 1: into like how our brain works. Our brain was not
Speaker 1: meant to function in like such a complex system and.
Speaker 2: Right balancing out interest over time. Is this the best?
Speaker 1: But it's not the future.
Speaker 2: There's like scams for everyone's illiteracy, every generation's level of
Speaker 2: the literacy. Like so if it's like boomers, there tech literacy.
Speaker 2: That's why they're they're being had by AI scams up
Speaker 2: and down because they have tech literacy or a lot
Speaker 2: of media litter like and a lot of people's media
Speaker 2: literacy is fucking gone. So people are being had because
Speaker 2: they have no media literacy. And then the financial literacy
Speaker 2: you're getting got also because people are just like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 2: just fucking douce because if you told that, if I
Speaker 2: said that ship to my grandfather, he would fucking bellied
Speaker 2: to back suplex me through a coffee tape.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're gonna buy it if I was.
Speaker 2: Buying fu Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Head.
Speaker 2: They're like, are you fucking what are you fucking talking about?
Speaker 2: Why would you go into debt like that? Because they
Speaker 2: look at that shit completely, even if it's not even
Speaker 2: the most like new or you know, refined way of
Speaker 2: like they sort of those basics were there, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: yeah they're and again we just live in a different
Speaker 2: air or two. I have yeah, no, finished, finished, No,
Speaker 2: just saying like where we aren't as conscious about that things.
Speaker 2: And also we're in in a version of a culture
Speaker 2: that is actively broadcasting to you that this is how
Speaker 2: you signal your well being and that you're doing well.
Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah, you can get the melted ice cream
Speaker 2: hand delivered to you for four easy payments of fucking
Speaker 2: twelve dollars or whatever. The fuck.
Speaker 3: I have a question. I'm just wondering why these folks
Speaker 3: aren't worried that there is some you know, activist out
Speaker 3: there who knows how to score an oligarch social security,
Speaker 3: create a bunch of false credit cards and everybody to
Speaker 3: a bunch of people on skill. Yeah, this is what
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. What if I'm not advocated, I don't
Speaker 3: think that.
Speaker 2: But that is a good script idea. That's a great
Speaker 2: script idea to work on. About a hacker who then
Speaker 2: creates all these credit cards and you post on the
Speaker 2: internet and be like, y'all, don't get wild with them.
Speaker 2: There's use it for food. Takes a long.
Speaker 3: Time, and you have about twenty four hours before it
Speaker 3: stops working, and I post the next one.
Speaker 2: You know, it's wild. They used to have ship like
Speaker 2: that for porn websites, I'm gonna tell y'all because they're
Speaker 2: like membership pastor protective porn sites. In the nineties, there
Speaker 2: are websites that people will crack different accounts and be like,
Speaker 2: get this, you can get this. Here's the porn website
Speaker 2: with this password. But it's only twenty four hours and
Speaker 2: then ship would be gone. It's yeah, but we need
Speaker 2: that for all of our credit millennials.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah. Also, if TDZ gets on porn hub, it
Speaker 3: triples your ad revenue. I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 2: I know I was. I was reading that thing about
Speaker 2: how wait someone there's a woman who does like science courses, yeah,
Speaker 2: and she was like, bro, I'm cleaning up on porn
Speaker 2: hub because the.
Speaker 1: Fuck you just put it up there and it just
Speaker 1: monetizes yep. How how is it popping up for people?
Speaker 1: Are people like in their refractory period after they jack off,
Speaker 1: They're just like, oh.
Speaker 2: You know what, I should learned a little bit about
Speaker 2: how to kind of like model a bell curve in
Speaker 2: three dimensions, right, I missed that part of calculus.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just gonna say women are on pornhub
Speaker 3: two and we don't have refractory period.
Speaker 2: So that's right.
Speaker 3: I just go right to the science.
Speaker 2: After yeah, after my science in my refractory period after that,
Speaker 2: and then I need some porn.
Speaker 1: Zara as always such a pleasure having you on the show.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: I love being here, folks. Zaracomedy dot com for all things.
Speaker 3: You can find me a Zara comedy everywhere. That's z
Speaker 3: a h r a comedy. I will be doing courses
Speaker 3: with Urban Haiku pretty soon. At some point, I'm going
Speaker 3: to get my core strengths together and start performing again,
Speaker 3: and I'll let you know about that on my sub stack.
Speaker 3: And in between, what's next the media? I'm into?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and is there a work media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: Okay, yo, listen up. I am so upset that people
Speaker 3: have been shitting on the movie night bitch, m It's fantastic.
Speaker 3: Amy Adams is fantastic. Every time I want people to
Speaker 3: understand my life as a mother, I turn, I tell
Speaker 3: him go watch that fucking movie. And my husband watched
Speaker 3: it with me and he gave me a hug afterwards.
Speaker 3: The book is fantastic. Nobody reads those anymore.
Speaker 2: Why why why are people shitting on it? Because you're like,
Speaker 2: what are.
Speaker 1: You trying to do?
Speaker 2: Create sympathy?
Speaker 3: Now they're trying to say that like it's like not
Speaker 3: the experience of mothers or something. I don't know. There
Speaker 3: was some nonsense about that in the New York Times
Speaker 3: that it was like inaccurate, and I just like, I'm
Speaker 3: so livid that anyone would think that, Like it's like
Speaker 3: it's highly accurate. And also like it's literally one slice.
Speaker 3: There are like no movies about moms.
Speaker 2: Y yeah, about like written by a guy about how
Speaker 2: like wacky moms are, how wacky moms can.
Speaker 3: Be, Like kindergarten cop is like the last time we
Speaker 3: had to forget it.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they're like, no, that was the yeah right, so.
Speaker 3: Go check it out. It's fantastic and uh mo season
Speaker 3: two of MO alright and it's and it's absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, and uh just beyond that, I've just got
Speaker 3: Gaza on my mind. I've got Gaza on my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and ship and even every person like how they're
Speaker 2: just now being like, okay, well, let's go after the
Speaker 2: people who aren't citizens first, to really clamp down on
Speaker 2: any dissent. God, that's like just every day there's someone
Speaker 2: new now who's getting disappeared for again just speaking on
Speaker 2: the wrong people for people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no canaries, folks, hashtag no canaries.
Speaker 2: No, this is the coal Oh sorry, we're in the
Speaker 2: coal mine and it's collapsed.
Speaker 1: You're we're in the coal mining.
Speaker 2: You were dead.
Speaker 1: This is hell, This is hell.
Speaker 2: No further questions your owner.
Speaker 1: Miles. Where can people find you? As they're a working
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 2: Find me at Miles of Gray everywhere some little works
Speaker 2: of media. I like a few shout out to front
Speaker 2: of the show kat Abu Gaza, who is actually running
Speaker 2: running for Congress in Illinois's ninth district, going after set
Speaker 2: establishment Democrats who are doing fuck all to do anything
Speaker 2: about the current situation. So I love this. I think
Speaker 2: more people need to understand that the people that are
Speaker 2: in office are so afraid of doing anything that they
Speaker 2: just rely on the status quo to stay there, and
Speaker 2: anybody who presents just something slightly different. I feel like
Speaker 2: you see a lot of anger out there for people
Speaker 2: who do nothing. So maybe people who have a little
Speaker 2: bit of fight will give some inspiration. But anyway, I
Speaker 2: just I've shared. She was interviewed in Rolling Stone. I've
Speaker 2: been just kind of reskeating stuff that has come out
Speaker 2: of there because I think it's very interesting, very exciting,
Speaker 2: and I think the kind of energy that we need
Speaker 2: given the fact that the Democratic Party brand is died.
Speaker 2: And then another work from there, aside from that one,
Speaker 2: was someone I think on Twitter like years ago said
Speaker 2: normalize naming your child after a ten out of ten album,
Speaker 2: and Blurred and Bold at Blurred and bold Dot besky
Speaker 2: Dot Social posted time for school illmatic Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: a lot of people.
Speaker 1: The first time that I thought of, Oh, and wake
Speaker 1: up your sister a Quemini.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, and this is my youngest toxicity.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed a tweet from Kenny at Evil Beast three
Speaker 1: two nine four one who tweeted ending my thesis paper
Speaker 1: with but who gives a fuck what I think? I
Speaker 1: think it's just a good way to sign off. And
Speaker 1: then Zito at underscore Zets tweeted having a baby Waving
Speaker 1: at a baby is an art. Some of you aren't
Speaker 1: real baby waivers light and cheer doesn't radiate from you
Speaker 1: when you wave, the babies don't laugh or smile. They
Speaker 1: keep a straight face like they don't see you. And
Speaker 1: I just happen to believe that it's true, you know,
Speaker 1: as an expert baby waiver, baby waivers. Put that baby
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Speaker 3: Baby love, babies love it when you wave. And I
Speaker 3: just want to remind folks Jack is here if you
Speaker 3: need an Arby's, if you need.
Speaker 1: An rby sandwich only is nasty, but then yeah, you better.
Speaker 2: They need to be like, hey, let me see you
Speaker 2: eat that with your feet. He put three package of
Speaker 2: sauce on that next bite. Oh yeah, I'm nasty.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. You can find us on Twitter. You find
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Speaker 1: go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening
Speaker 1: to it, and you can find the footnotes, which is
Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked
Speaker 1: about in today's episode. We also link off to a
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there
Speaker 1: a song that you think people might enjoy Yes.
Speaker 2: Joy Crooks is a fantastic artist from the UK. People.
Speaker 2: I feel like one of her big song is that
Speaker 2: song feet Don't Fail Me. Now. She's kind of got
Speaker 2: like a winehouse sort of vibe, like little grit to
Speaker 2: Her voice was super soulful. She's got a new track
Speaker 2: out with you know LA's very own Vince Staples called
Speaker 2: Past the Salt. I mean, I guess I'll say long Beach,
Speaker 2: you know, I'll keep it up. Really put me on her.
Speaker 2: He's even really real. Yeah, Past the Salt featuring Vince Staples.
Speaker 2: It's a really good combo. Like he only has like
Speaker 2: a like like an eight bar verse on it, but
Speaker 2: it's great. She's kind of doing an interpolation of like
Speaker 2: a Surge Gainsbourg track on it. This is sort of
Speaker 2: what I heard in the rhythm section, but it's called
Speaker 2: Pass the Salt Vince Staples. Joy Crooks put it on
Speaker 2: Amy One.
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