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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, and the words of the great journalist Ron Burgundy. Well,

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Speaker 1: that escalated quickly, and yes it did. Although it was

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Speaker 1: a blowout, it didn't feel like a blowout. There were

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Speaker 1: certain moments during the night where I thought, Okay, here

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Speaker 1: comes Gonzaga, and then we realized they were only going

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Speaker 1: so far. There was a glass ceiling on their Cinderella story.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program, Our one Dan and the Dan

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Speaker 1: Instan Patrick Show. I shouldn't say Cinderella's story, but certainly

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Speaker 1: a storybook season for Gonzaga. But congratulations to the Baylor Bears,

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Speaker 1: the national champs, number two team in the country, ruining

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Speaker 1: Gonzaga's dreams of being the first undefeated champ in over

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Speaker 1: forty years, and of course trying to do that in

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Speaker 1: the state of Indiana, where that's where the last team was,

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Hoosiers. But Baylor was dominant all season long.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they had the offense, defense, the rebounding

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Speaker 1: was really big. They had everything on full display. Jared Butler,

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Speaker 1: Davion Mitchell really played well. But everybody on the rosters

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Speaker 1: seemed to know their role. Scott Drew did a wonderful job.

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Speaker 1: You know, this was a team that was sidelined for

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Speaker 1: over three weeks with COVID, but Baylor and Gonzaga give

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Speaker 1: them both credit. You know. It's a strange season, a

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Speaker 1: season in which the blue blood struggled and the Bears

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Speaker 1: and Zags made it to the Final four and national

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Speaker 1: title game. And either team would have fared well in

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Speaker 1: recent NCAA tournaments. But in the end, it was a relentless,

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Speaker 1: a very talented Baylor team that came out of Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: with a well earned national championship. This program brought to

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Speaker 1: coming up here in about twenty minutes. Chris Simms from

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Speaker 1: NBC Sports will analyze the Sam Darnold trade and Nick Saban,

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Speaker 1: Alabama head coach, we'll join us. We'll talk about Mac

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Speaker 1: So coach will join us a little bit later. On

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Speaker 1: this morning. Hubert Davis gets the North Carolina job. Congrats

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Speaker 1: to Hubert, great choice there. The All Star Game is

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Speaker 1: now moving to Colorado, and the Jets traded Sam Darnold

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Speaker 1: to Carolina. Those were some of the headlines yesterday. Let

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Speaker 1: As I'd been telling you for I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 1: to trade up to number three. Overall, Carolina gets their

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Speaker 1: What if somebody falls into their lap. What if Justin

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Speaker 1: I still think there's a possibility of the Falcons being

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Speaker 1: Do you take somebody for Matt Ryan? Do you get

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Speaker 1: like mac Jones will be gone. We know Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: don't know if Denver's going to move up. Denver's another

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Speaker 1: did the Jets really have a choice in this matter?

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Speaker 1: But go to the direction that they're going because people

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Speaker 1: years when this quarterback doesn't work out. But they do

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Speaker 1: have a lot of drafts capital the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: But the tricky part was that he's on the last

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Speaker 1: if it happens, but Teddy Bridgewater could go to San

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Speaker 1: to be their day one starter. I still don't understand

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Speaker 1: the fascination with mac Jones to the point where you

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Speaker 1: Jones would have been I think six would have been

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Speaker 1: I'll ask Nick Saban, Mike, what is it about mac Jones?

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Speaker 1: Like what am I missing here? Yeah mcclen Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're using their legs constantly. They use

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Speaker 1: you had that with Carol Line with Cam Newton, they

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Speaker 1: had designed runs, but Cam was at times felt like

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Speaker 1: It's a landing spot for Darnold, Like seems like a

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Speaker 1: And you're going to Carolina. I like the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: but you gotta have weapons. You gotta have weapons. And

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Speaker 1: I don't care how good you are coming out of college,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Yeah, mclovn, I'm just gonna throw to

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey forty times a game. Let him do something right.

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Speaker 1: I know. He better be great. Better stay healthy too.

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Speaker 1: ten minutes. Baylor became the third team in the last

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Speaker 1: El Paso. That was back in nineteen sixty six. Stat

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Speaker 1: Chris Simms will tell us if the Jets made a

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Speaker 1: mistake there by trading for Sam Darnold, did Carolina get

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Speaker 1: the guy that they truly wanted? And then Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: wasn't like, you know, I think most of us going

426
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Speaker 1: into the game and said, you know, Gonzaga needs to

427
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Speaker 1: take care of the ball. That Baylor forces a turnover

428
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Speaker 1: on almost twenty five percent of their opponent's possessions during

429
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Speaker 1: the year. But it wasn't like Gonzaga was throwing the

430
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Speaker 1: ball away. Baylor was taking it from him. And there's

431
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Speaker 1: a difference. And they could you know, Gonzaga couldn't run anything,

432
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: they couldn't get They basically had their backs turned in

433
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: trying to run some sort of offense. So while all

434
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: of us were talking about maybe the best passing and

435
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: cutting team we've seen, and I don't know how long

436
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: because who ranks that stuff, but I couldn't. I couldn't

437
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: remember anybody better, they couldn't see the cutters because they

438
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: were just overwhelmed with ball pressure and pushed further out.

439
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: Drew Timmy was trying to drive some of the big

440
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: guys and he, you know, he lost the ball on occasion.

441
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: I think he turned it over three times in the

442
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: first ten minutes, and then Baylor just went after whatever

443
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: matchup they liked, and Gonzaga was switching and drew Timmy

444
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: switches out on Macot or something like that, and they're like, okay,

445
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: here we go and just went after. It was like

446
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: an NBA team going after a EuroLeague team. Are we

447
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: going to remember Baylor winning a championship or are we

448
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: gonna this year with or Gonzaga with you know, Suggs's

449
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 1: game winner to beat UCLA, Like fifteen years from now?

450
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Speaker 1: Are we when we think of this year, what do

451
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: you think we're going to remember? I think we'll remember both.

452
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we'll remember Gonzaga as as being

453
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: a great team that was right there to do something

454
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Speaker 1: that hasn't been done in forty five years and falling

455
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: short obviously, and you'll always remember the champion and Baylor

456
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Speaker 1: Like this year, Daniel, I mean you you probably heard

457
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: it and said it as much as I did, that

458
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: Gonzaga and Baylor were the top tier of the game.

459
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: They had separated themselves early in the season. They were

460
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: the best teams and when Baylor. I believe this to

461
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: be true that if Baylor had not gone through that

462
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: COVID pause they had. I think it was in February

463
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: where they were they were off for eighteen days, and

464
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it was a contact tracing COVID pause.

465
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: They had eight or nine guys on their team that

466
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: had the virus, so it knocked them sideways and they

467
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: weren't the same team when they came back. Initially, I

468
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: did their second game back, I think it was at Kansas,

469
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and they got beat pretty good there, and I remember

470
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: saying during the game like, this is not the Baylor

471
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: team we've seen. This is the COVID Baylor team, and

472
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: getting criticized for queer making excuses Kansas is a better team,

473
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, they're not. I mean they're winning,

474
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: but they're not the better team. Like come on, you can't.

475
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: You can't ignore what we've seen and what we may

476
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Speaker 1: see again. And then in the in the NCAA Tournament,

477
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: it was Gonzaga and Baylor, and that's pretty much it.

478
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: Those were the two best teams. I just didn't anticipate

479
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: Gonzaga getting hit like that, Like so, I mean, you

480
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: saw the game. So when they knocked it to ten,

481
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: when Gonzaga got it down to ten at halftime. I

482
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: was in, Okay, that's a manageable number, Like we could

483
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: see that, we could see they can do this. And

484
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: then Jared Butler hit a couple three is to start

485
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: the second half. You're like, Okay, whatever crack there was

486
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: in that door, it is now shot. The game was

487
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: over after the first three minutes of the second half.

488
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Speaker 1: We were always looking to replicate the champions a style

489
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that champions have NFL it happens all the time. But

490
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: can you replicate what Baylor does? They led the nation

491
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: in three point field goal percentage and I think the

492
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: only other national title team to do that was Indiana

493
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: back with Steve Wolford maybe the first year they had

494
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: the three point shot. Can you replicate what they did? Yeah,

495
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: but you're going to have to have great guards that

496
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: can defend at that high of a level. Like I

497
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: think their three point shooting was a big factor, obviously,

498
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: but it wasn't the only factor. That Early on in

499
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: the season, I think we had identified Baylor as having

500
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: the best defensive backcourt in the country, and I'm not

501
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: sure it was a close call. And with Davion Mitchell,

502
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: like he's a lottery pick. That guy is the real deal.

503
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: He's unique in that he is unbelievably strong, and he's

504
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: unbelievably explosive. He's got another gear and he's got leverage,

505
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: he stays in front of you. Really an incredible defender.

506
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: It's no wonder he was the National Defensive Player of

507
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: the Year with the way he affects the game. But

508
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: Baylor was good last year, Like they were a number

509
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: one seed last year before the tournament got called off.

510
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't think they were a no brainer to win it,

511
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: but they could have won it. And they've been knocking

512
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: on this door for quite a while now. And but

513
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: so is Gonzaga. That that's kind of the funny thing.

514
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Gonzaga is the more interesting case to me because Baylor's

515
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: a Power five team with a you know, power five

516
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: football and all that stuff. Gonzaga has been to six

517
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: straight Sweet sixteens, sixth straight. There's only a couple other

518
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: programs that have done that in the game's history. They've won,

519
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: they've won thirty or more, including last year, in five

520
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: straight years. That's never been done before ever. And and

521
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: so we're talking about and they've been to I think

522
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: it's four of the last six Elite eights and two

523
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: of the last four title games. That's not a fluke,

524
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Like this is not some little mid major that they play,

525
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: you know, they play an easier schedule. Therefore they're more

526
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: like that. That's just not fair. And people are saying

527
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: that now. I mean, you see it on social media,

528
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: told you they were fraud Like really really they're they're

529
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: really good and they're going to be just as good

530
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: next year because they've got big time players, Like now

531
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: they're starting to recruit the superstar high school players and

532
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: they've always gotten transfers. But they're not going to go

533
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: away either. So we're we're going to see this. We're

534
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: we could very likely see this again, and not just

535
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: with these two teams. But ga Zak is not going anywhere.

536
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: He's Jay billis from the Mother's ship. What about the

537
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: transfer portal? Vital has been you know, railing on this

538
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: that we got all of these players who are able

539
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: to transfer. Where do you stand on this? I don't

540
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: think the execution of the portal is a very good idea, Dan,

541
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: But this this is a result of two things. One,

542
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: it's a result of coaches complaining about poaching. You know,

543
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: the idea that they had a player on their roster,

544
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: that the player was interested in leaving. Somebody contacted another

545
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: school and said, do you have a space? Do you

546
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: have space available? And they kind of negotiated the player's

547
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: way out. Didn't like that. Didn't like the fact of

548
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: the player didn't come into their office, sit down, have

549
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: a heart to heart with good old coach and you know,

550
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: let's let's talk this out and let's let's battle through

551
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: adversity and all that stuff. Um So, so the coaches

552
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: didn't like it. Well, now they got the transfer portal,

553
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: so the players are telling them and they just go

554
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: and uh, and it's it's kind of an open invitation

555
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: to leave, and we're going to see more of it.

556
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: So the transfer market is here to stay. But the

557
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: other part of it is the NC double A cannot

558
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: justify this year and residence thing having a player sit out,

559
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: Like think about this one. In high school, you have

560
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: no college experience at all, and they expect you to

561
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: make a binding decision on where you're to college. But

562
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: after you've been in college and you've experienced it, then

563
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: you can't be trusted to leave and make your decision

564
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: based upon your having college experience. Look, I know what

565
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: it's like to play for this guy. I don't want

566
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: to do it anymore. And Nope, can't be trusted. You

567
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: got to play through adversity. My parents told me to

568
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: do it. My parents wouldn't let me transfer. Well, then

569
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: talk to the parents and tell the parents, tell your

570
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: kid not to transfer. But this whole thing, and then

571
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: the NC double A didn't want to They don't want

572
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: to argue over the year in residence anymore, which was

573
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: an old vestige when there was freshman ineligibility, because they

574
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: want to argue about money like that their stance on

575
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: transferring could hurt them in court while they're arguing about money.

576
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: And who knows what's going to happen with the US

577
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: Supreme Court in the next month and a half when

578
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: they come down with their decision in the Alston case.

579
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: But I think we've seen amateurism. It's certainly if it's

580
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: not on life support, you know, somebody's got their hand

581
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: on the plug. You know it's going to get pulled

582
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: at some point. Now, whether whether it gets pulled soon,

583
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, but but it's not going to last

584
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: much longer. It just can't. But also you have this

585
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: situation where players wanted to meet with the NCAA president

586
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: Mark Emritt, and here they are in Indianapolis and then

587
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: he says, you know, we can meet after, Like, where

588
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: are we headed here, Jay in the next year or so,

589
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: or is it going to be sooner than that or

590
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: is it going to be later than that that we

591
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: see maybe some kind of change. Well, first of all, Emmert.

592
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: Emmert did say he would meet with the players. There

593
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: was some sort of miscommunication there and it was it

594
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: was reported that it would be after, but he said

595
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: he'd meet with them when their schedules could do it.

596
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: So he never said he would would meet with them

597
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: during the tournament. But meeting with him is useless. Um,

598
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: there's nothing nothing he can or will do. I think

599
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: to say that he has been a failure as NCUBA

600
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: president would be in an understatement. He's been a colossal failure.

601
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: But where we're headed is the players are going to

602
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: have the same rights going forward as literally everybody else.

603
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: Like you know, the one thing that the nc double

604
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: A has never done is they've never evolved with the

605
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: changing times. The only way they've evolved is by saying, hey,

606
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: we need to evolve in our making money, but we

607
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: can evolve with the players and the and the rest

608
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: of like they're going to stay where they are, but

609
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: everything else we're going to evolve with the times. And Look,

610
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: I love coaches as much as anybody. It may sound

611
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: like I don't when I'm I'm talking about him right now,

612
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: but I've grown a little tired of listening to coaches saying,

613
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, when I got into coaching, it was I

614
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: didn't get into it for money. You know, Well, but

615
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: you took the money. You know, you didn't turn down

616
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: the money. You know. Everybody says that, Well, this is

617
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: about the kid. They call them kids all the time.

618
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: When they're adults. It's it's called men's basketball and women's basketball.

619
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: They're not kids, they're adults. And if we can sell

620
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: them for billions of dollars, if they're old enough to sell,

621
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: they're old enough to bargain for their fair market value.

622
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: And just the nil thing, which everybody seems to think

623
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: is a compromise. It's going to lead to an open,

624
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: open market at some point, because it has to. But

625
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, the argument now is only Zion Williamson and

626
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence are going to make money everybody else. That's

627
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: not true. Women are going to make a ton of

628
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: money people you've never heard of because we're old men.

629
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Like this system has been run by old white men

630
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: for long enough and it needs to open up and evolve,

631
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: And the athletes need to be allowed to act in

632
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: the marketplace just like literally everyone else, because as you know, Dan,

633
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: far more non athletes get scholarships than athletes, And there's

634
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: no non athlete that is told what they can earn

635
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: or accept in the marketplace by virtue of being a

636
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: student or by virtue of accepting a scholarship. Like do

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Speaker 1: we call that pay when a non athlete gets a scholarship, Well,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't get anything more because you get a scholar

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Speaker 1: Like that's absurd. It's absurd to tell a non athlete, lad,

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Speaker 1: and it's absurd to tell an athlete that. And look

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Speaker 1: if an individual school doesn't want to pay and then

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Speaker 1: don't pay, just like you don't have to pay your

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Speaker 1: coaches millions of dollars. You don't have to build facilities,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to have a hospital. Don't do any

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Speaker 1: of that if you don't want to. But but you know,

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Speaker 1: banding together like as a cartel, which the NC doable

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Speaker 1: a is that's just not going to work in the

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Speaker 1: long run. It's amazing it's worked this long. But if

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Speaker 1: you if you try to read tea leaves from the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court's questioning and oral argument about a week ago,

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Speaker 1: they're not buying it unless they were just stress testing

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Speaker 1: an argument and they're all on the other side of it.

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Speaker 1: Long time court observers have said they didn't feel the

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Speaker 1: argument was a good thing for the NC doable. Ah,

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Speaker 1: I love you, fired up, have a good off wherever

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Speaker 1: that is, Jay, have a good off season. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be jumping into court to protect you

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Speaker 1: from these evil evil Tom Brady send you a seasons.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't he have enough money? You can't let you make

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Speaker 1: a T shirt. I don't even know if he knows

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Speaker 1: that I'm the one who came up with the T shirt.

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Speaker 1: Oh he knows. Dan. He's sitting there, you think, you know,

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Speaker 1: stroking a hairless cat, you know, kind of with an

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Speaker 1: a pinky ring. Oh, you're darn right. He got a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring for his pinky and he's got it

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Speaker 1: right there like that controlling the world. Yes, thank you Jay,

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Speaker 1: good to see about. That's j Bois from the Mothership.

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Speaker 1: Take a break. Play of the Day up next. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon

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Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and

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Speaker 1: John Middlecop and I host the Three and Out Podcast.

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Speaker 1: for Andy Reid as a scout. Now I give you

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Speaker 1: because of how important the draft is year round. Listen

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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: is the play on the day. Check this out. Irvy

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Speaker 1: puts the shoulder down phase for the three HiT's It

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Speaker 1: forty points for Kyrie Irving and that's the biggest shot

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Speaker 1: of the game. It puts the Nets up by five

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Speaker 1: with fifty nine seconds to go. Courtesy of WFAM, the

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Speaker 1: Nets radio network. Kyrie goes for forty is fourth forty

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Speaker 1: point game of the season. Only Vince Carter and John

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Speaker 1: Williamson have had as many in a season for the

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Speaker 1: Nets since the team joined the NBA. Vince had six

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Speaker 1: in a season, five in a season, five in a season.

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Speaker 1: John Williamson had five forty point games back in nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy seven, seventy eight, and then Kyrie this year with

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Speaker 1: his fourth forty point game. Pretty interesting though that Oh

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Speaker 1: James Harden tweaked something eight. Yeah, just chill, Katie, not

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Speaker 1: I think I want to pitch this NFL Pole question

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Speaker 1: instead of college basketball. Okay, who makes a Pro Bowl first,

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson or Sam Darnold. Zach Wilson's twenty one will

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Speaker 1: turn twenty two during the season, Sam Darnold's twenty three.

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Speaker 1: They're basically the same age, which is crazy. Yeah, um, okay,

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Speaker 1: what your I have no idea. I'm gonna say Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna think positive for Sam Darnold. I think I

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Speaker 1: think I'm on the Panther's bandwagon. Wait you are? I

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Speaker 1: like that they have McCaffrey, they sell that number eight pick.

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Speaker 1: They can take Jamar Chase or Kyle Pitts. They have

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Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson played well last year, and since, like every

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Speaker 1: idiot fan, I'm only going on skill position players that

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Speaker 1: ignore any offensive line. It just feels like a nice spot.

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Speaker 1: And you said you gruele as you're hearing good things

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Speaker 1: about Rule? Yeah, yeah, at somebody tell me that you

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Speaker 1: know Matt Rule teaches like he's you know, he's a

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Speaker 1: sharp guy. Lovely city. Very an airportte great airport. Don't

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Speaker 1: they have the rocking chairs? Yes, I've been in the

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Speaker 1: airport where you know you're going you're connecting flights and

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Speaker 1: they have these huge rocking chairs. Yeah, and Bojangles for

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Speaker 1: a little biscuits in the morning. I like that. It's

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Speaker 1: also been under construction for the last thirty seven years.

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Speaker 1: A little known fact. Well, it's not like LaGuardia. I

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Speaker 1: one of the terminals. He's done in LaGuardia, one of five. Yeah, great,

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Speaker 1: yeah great, got a couple more years before we get

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Speaker 1: it done. Yeah, I might ticket it said where a

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Speaker 1: hard hat to the flight? That was weird. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: looks like he's having fun on Jeopardy, and he did

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Speaker 1: bring this up as maybe he heard what I was

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Speaker 1: saying yesterday. He can do both. He could still be

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Speaker 1: the Packers quarterback and host Jeopardy because Alex Trebeck told

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Speaker 1: me that you really have to allocate around fifty days

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Speaker 1: to shoot all of the episodes. But Alex was shooting

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Speaker 1: five a day, and you just crank him through. And

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Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers wants to do that, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think he did the math where he said, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is what it's going to take to be the quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the Packers. And this is what it would be

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Speaker 1: to be the host of Jeopardy. But he you know,

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Speaker 1: he's already shot a couple of days back in February,

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Speaker 1: and you know, a two week run here, and I

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Speaker 1: think he'll do great. I think he's he loves the game.

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Speaker 1: He's respectful to Alex, he studied, and I think having

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Speaker 1: you know, he's he's quick, he's got a kind of

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Speaker 1: that drawl sense, he humor, not afraid to call you

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Speaker 1: out a little bit there. He can be a little sneaky, snarky,

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Speaker 1: and and he's smart. Yes, Well, he parted his hair

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Speaker 1: kind of like it was picture day. It was I

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Speaker 1: thought he looked like Don Draper though from Madman, which

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Speaker 1: is a good thing. Yeah, it was a little too

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Speaker 1: first like Alfalfa with our gang his picture day where

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Speaker 1: he had like his hair was all slicked down there. Mom,

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Speaker 1: mom got his hair all slick, you know when the

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Speaker 1: mom would liquor finger but your calick there. Yeah, Paulie's

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Speaker 1: got NFL Jeopardy for us. Do I need to study

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Speaker 1: for this? How do we prepare for this? Rapid fire

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Speaker 1: answer in the formal question, dan oh, I never do

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Speaker 1: well with that. This team will undoubtedly trade. Where you

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Speaker 1: are your quarterback? Zach Wilson to Denver for two third

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Speaker 1: round picks in twenty twenty four? Who were the Jets?

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Speaker 1: That's right, Dan, This quarterback is about to be traded

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Speaker 1: and replaced by a less handsome, Lesson shaped version of him.

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Speaker 1: This quarterback is about to be replaced by a less handsome,

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Speaker 1: Lesson shaped version of him. Who is Jimmy Garoppolo? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Is this harder? This franchise would be better off with

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Speaker 1: a sixty year old team president at quarterback than any

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Speaker 1: of the options currently on the roster. Who are the

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Speaker 1: Broncos The Broncos John Elway good Da? Based off their

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Speaker 1: quarterback history, the commissioner should not allow this franchise to

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Speaker 1: ever draft a quarterback again. Who were the Bears? The Bears?

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Speaker 1: This tequila infused anti aging quarterback makes all the NFL

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Speaker 1: offseason movement moots. Tequila infused anti aging quarterback makes all

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Speaker 1: the NFL off season moves moot. Who is Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 1: Who was Tom Brady? Oh? Wait, he's tequila infused? Yeah

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Speaker 1: he was? Uh? And the boat parle where he was drinking? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tequila tequila? Thank you, Paul, you got a bright future

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Speaker 1: there with NFL Jeopards. Oh yeah, that so will kill Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now I think that Aaron Rodgers could do both. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that because they can move their schedule.

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Speaker 1: They're they're shooting schedule to accommodate Aaron Rodgers if this

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Speaker 1: is what he wants to do. But that's one of

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Speaker 1: those once you go in and you get locked in

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Speaker 1: and then you know you're gonna be doing that for

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Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, Nick Levin, it's not unprecedent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Strahan has had a crazy TV career that has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with sports. Yeah. Yeah, Tiki Barber who was

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Speaker 1: working for the Today Show. You know, you guys making

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Speaker 1: that transition of going into the media but while still

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Speaker 1: playing is that's a little trickier and at that position quarterback?

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Speaker 1: All right, phone calls coming up, Chris Simms on loan

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