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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: is kicking off right now, and let's.

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Speaker 1: Just dive right into it.

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Speaker 2: There's other stuff to talk about as well, but you know,

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Speaker 2: the inflation, the economy, the border. Biden throwing down the

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Speaker 2: gauntlet very feebly, very.

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Speaker 1: Weak fashion.

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Speaker 2: I would argue, he is saying that he wants two

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Speaker 2: debates with Donald Trump. So at least as of now,

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Speaker 2: there does seem to be the likelihood of presidential debates.

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Speaker 2: It is not a fete complie, It is not something

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Speaker 2: that has already set in stone. There's negotiating happening, but

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Speaker 2: this is the two prize fighters sizing each other up

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Speaker 2: and looking at each other from across the ring. Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden stumbling as he does so. Here he is with

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Speaker 2: a video put out to try to antagonize the trump Ster.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump lost two debates to me in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: cents that he hadn't shown up for debate. Now he's

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Speaker 3: acting like he wants to debate me again. Will make

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Speaker 3: my day, Pal. I'll even do it twice. So let's

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Speaker 3: pick the dates. Donald, I hear you're free on Wednesdays.

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Speaker 2: Little joke there at the end about how Trump is

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Speaker 2: facing a criminal prosecution that we know has been aided

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Speaker 2: and cheered on by Biden's doj so haha, weaponization of

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Speaker 2: government and the destruction of legal norms. But let's look

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Speaker 2: at what is offered here. The devil is in the details.

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Speaker 2: Clay Biden, first off, June and September very interesting. June

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Speaker 2: strikes me as very early.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, go back.

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Speaker 2: June strikes me as very early, and I will get

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Speaker 2: into why that.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: I think it's obvious, right, they got to turn things around.

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Speaker 2: They've got to turn the momentum around. It's real. The

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Speaker 2: polls are speaking very clearly on this. But what Biden

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Speaker 2: is saying is the follower his team. I should say, Clay,

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Speaker 2: we got the following provisos, no audience, no RFK junior,

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Speaker 2: no Trump remarks during Biden's answers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everyone agrees to that, but people always interrupt each.

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Speaker 2: Other and the Biden leaning or Biden leading outlets of CBS, ABC, CNN,

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Speaker 2: and Telemundo. So he's got a whole bunch of requirements

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Speaker 2: for this, and it's based on networks that hosted Republican

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Speaker 2: debates primary events in twenty sixteen and Democratic debates in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. So, Clay, what do you make of it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is it happening, is it posturing? What's the

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Speaker 2: biggest takeaway? I think it's desperation from Biden. The cut

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Speaker 2: that you played.

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Speaker 5: People can't see the video, but I believe there were

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Speaker 5: five or six cuts in that twenty second video. And

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Speaker 5: for people out there who don't understand what that means,

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Speaker 5: you and I are waiving right now at the video

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Speaker 5: feed of the Clay and Buck radio show. There will

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Speaker 5: not be a single cut that will occur for the

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Speaker 5: entire three hour show. It's you and me sitting talking

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Speaker 5: and everybody can look directly at that camera. There isn't

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Speaker 5: a jump around, there's no edit, there's no teleprompter. This

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Speaker 5: is live, and there is no safety net, as you

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Speaker 5: can well tell, because sometimes we fall into the safety net,

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Speaker 5: but or fall where the safety net would be. But

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Speaker 5: Biden had to have several cuts there. So here's what

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Speaker 5: I think is going on. I think that there is

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Speaker 5: desperation inside of the Biden camp.

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Speaker 1: I think they.

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Speaker 5: Felt a small measure of uplift from Biden's performance at

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Speaker 5: the State of the Union when he didn't fall all

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Speaker 5: over his face. And I think wanting a debate to

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Speaker 5: take place on June twenty seven is about trying to

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Speaker 5: convince Democrats, Hey, Biden's going to be okay June twenty seventh,

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Speaker 5: nine pm Eastern on CNN. We know that that's going

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Speaker 5: to be a rigged referee. We don't know who the

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Speaker 5: moderator will be. The other one is going to be

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Speaker 5: in September Buck, So I think what they're trying to

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Speaker 5: do is they recognized it was awful for them if

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Speaker 5: they didn't debate, but they want to have the debates

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Speaker 5: as early as possible. So if they get them done

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Speaker 5: by September, then they can go run their campaign and

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Speaker 5: try to get their get out the vote campaign going

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Speaker 5: without having to worry about a disastrous October. I feel

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Speaker 5: like there's probably a couple of October surprises they've got

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Speaker 5: planned to try to drag down Trump. That would be

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Speaker 5: my bet, And so they're trying to get the debates

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Speaker 5: put behind them. So the story arc changes. One happens

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Speaker 5: in the middle of the summer when a lot of

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Speaker 5: people aren't paying attention. The other one happens in September

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Speaker 5: before a lot of people are paying attention. It's desperate

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Speaker 5: designed to kind of placate the donors, but also have

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Speaker 5: the limited impact of an actual campaign. That's my thought

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Speaker 2: So if my quick Google research here is correct, the

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Speaker 2: first twenty sixteen presidential debate was late September September twenty sixth,

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Speaker 2: was everything was very different than it would be in

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Speaker 2: a normal election year twenty sixteen, though the first presidential

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Speaker 2: debate was September twenty sixth. So point here is offering

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Speaker 2: to go in June is a move right, that's not

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Speaker 2: just a thing. There's a willingness to try to get

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Speaker 2: this done a lot sooner than they would otherwise because

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Speaker 2: Biden is an incumbent who is trailing and they have

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Speaker 2: to stop that, and they figure, I think this is

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Speaker 2: their calculation, Clay. They can put Biden on the stage,

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Speaker 2: give him whatever they need to give him so that

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Speaker 2: he gets through the hour of the two hours, whatever

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Speaker 2: it is, and then all summer we hear Joe still

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Speaker 2: got it. He's you know, look what he did against

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Speaker 2: Trump on the stage, and I think that that is

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Speaker 2: the thing that they're trying to pull off, because otherwise

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Speaker 2: the numbers right now indicate that this is only going

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Speaker 2: in one direction, and it's toward a Trump victory. So

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Speaker 2: for an incumbent president to even think about debating in

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Speaker 2: June of the election year, I don't think there's any

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Speaker 2: way to see it other than what you said, which

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Speaker 2: is a desperation, a recognition that they're losing.

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Speaker 1: You only would do this.

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Speaker 2: I mean the thing of if you were the president,

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Speaker 2: Clay and you were up by five points or ten

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Speaker 2: points nationally on the challenger, you'd be like, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna let the summer do its thing, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: come in in September and then I'm going to clean

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Speaker 2: your clock. Right, Yes, June June is I need to

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Speaker 2: get on that debate stage as soon as possible to

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Speaker 2: change the momentum. Here's the other thing I would point out,

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Speaker 2: we got a big steak dinner to me. The June

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Speaker 2: twenty seventh debate could also be about Biden having to

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Speaker 2: respond to donors who don't think he should be the guy,

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Speaker 2: and so they want to do this June twenty seventh

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Speaker 2: to put things to rest before the Democrat convention in August,

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Speaker 2: and I would just put out there if Trump shows

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Speaker 2: up and cleans Biden's clock and whatever drug cocktail they're

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Speaker 2: firing up with Biden, whatever drug cocktail he has, doesn't

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Speaker 2: work like it has in the past. Remember, this will

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Speaker 2: theoretically be off teleprompter. And I do think all of

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Speaker 2: the debate parameters matter. Here a great deal. Who's the moderator?

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Speaker 2: How much time can you spend on the prompter? If

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Speaker 2: I'm the Biden team, I want like five minute opening

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Speaker 2: statements that my candidates can read directly off the prompter.

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Speaker 2: I want a five minute closing statement that my candidates

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Speaker 2: can read off the prompter. I probably want an hour

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Speaker 2: and a half debate instead of a two hour debate,

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Speaker 2: maybe even an hour debate. I want to whittle down

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Speaker 2: I want commercial breaks. I want to whittle down the

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Speaker 2: actual amount of time that my candidate has to be

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Speaker 2: standing there on the stage talking without any prompting. I

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Speaker 2: also want an ear piece where somebody might be able

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Speaker 2: to talk to him. I really think the details surrounding

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Speaker 2: how this debate is set up are a big deal. Now,

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Speaker 2: remember that we do know some of this and Trump

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Speaker 2: just tweeted out buck or sorry truth doubt.

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Speaker 5: We have the dates now. Trump has agreed to them,

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Speaker 5: and he's asking for more debates. I don't think that

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Speaker 5: Biden's team will give them. But we got June twenty seventh,

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Speaker 5: a Thursday in late June, in the middle of the summer,

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Speaker 5: that will be taking place in Atlanta. We don't know

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Speaker 5: about a studio audience. We don't know the moderator. The

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Speaker 5: other one will be on ABC News on September tenth.

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Speaker 5: So it's not only that it's in September, Buck, it's earlier.

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Speaker 5: The latest debate in this cycle is earlier than the

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Speaker 5: earliest debate has ever been in the Trump era.

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Speaker 1: They're moving it up for sure.

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Speaker 2: This is Trump responding to Biden's challenge here of a

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Speaker 2: duel on the stage. This was on Hugh Hewitt's show.

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Speaker 2: This is cut to play it.

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Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, I've been trying to get you know, he's

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Speaker 6: issuing it. I wonder whether or not he shows up,

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Speaker 6: because you know, he also challenges me to golf. So

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Speaker 6: I'm a very good golfer. He can't hit a ball

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Speaker 6: fifty yards he said, I'll give him three aside, but

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Speaker 6: he knows he'll never play. This is sort of like that,

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Speaker 6: I think, but I hope not, because I really think

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Speaker 6: he has the debate, he might as well get it

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Speaker 6: up with. Probably should do it early so that he can.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's not going to get any better.

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Speaker 2: I think it is true, he's not going to get

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Speaker 2: any better. But they've had to show their hand here

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Speaker 2: a bit. There is no way anyone can see the

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Speaker 2: schedule of the debates as proposed to the Trump team

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Speaker 2: from Biden, and now it seems to be agreed upon,

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Speaker 2: at least in terms of the rough you know, the

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Speaker 2: overall outline of things. You can't see this and think

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Speaker 2: anything other than Joe Biden is in a weak spot

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Speaker 2: for an incumbent president. Yes, especially an incumbent president it

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Speaker 2: was facing four criminal trials. An incumbent president, to Democrats say,

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Speaker 2: is the biggest threat to America since the Civil War,

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Speaker 2: a bigger threat than nine to eleven. I mean, they've

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Speaker 2: said all this insane stuff a million times now, and

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Speaker 2: somehow it seems a majority of the country would rather

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Speaker 2: have that guy in charge than the guy who's currently

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Speaker 2: in charge. What does that tell you? You know, I

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Speaker 2: always wonder what the emotional fallout will be this day.

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Speaker 2: If Trump broke them by winning in twenty sixteen, what

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Speaker 2: happens after you're emotionally broken?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Other thing that I would factor in is great question.

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Speaker 5: The Hunter Biden trials theoretically are going to be taking

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Speaker 5: place when this debate happens on June twenty seventh. Is

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Speaker 5: a lot of talk about it. Hunter is scheduled for

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Speaker 5: the gun charge on the East Coast June third, and

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Speaker 5: then I think it's something like June twentieth, Hunter is

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Speaker 5: scheduled on the tax charges. There's a big story out there.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about it a little bit. Wonder how the

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Speaker 5: timing on this implicates that, and again there are a

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Speaker 5: lot of devil in the details. I would think, I'm

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Speaker 5: curious if you would agree we'll talk about it more

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Speaker 5: that Trump probably wants a live audience. I would think

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Speaker 5: who they select as the moderator to kind of think

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Speaker 5: about this. If you know CNN's hosting it, who's the

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Speaker 5: best moderator? In your mind you know CNN, well, who

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Speaker 5: would be the fairest moderator that you could hope for

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Speaker 5: if you're Trump? Because remember a lot of times there's

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Speaker 5: a rig job going on, and Biden gets protected, kind

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Speaker 5: of like a ref. If he's in the corner getting pummeled,

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Speaker 5: the ref comes in and pulls Trump off.

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Speaker 2: I think this is funny because you have the guy

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Speaker 2: who's officially banned from CNN asking the guy who's de

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Speaker 2: facto bet yeah CNN about the CNN roster.

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh, the best think about it. We'll go to

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Speaker 5: Big breaking news out there. In the event that you

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Speaker 1: Going to build on here. You said something that I

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Speaker 2: I think that the old format, Remember, presidential debates are

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Speaker 2: Because there's also inherent favoritism in all of this, right

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Speaker 1: I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: I think this is significant and I don't know how

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I agree about the way Trump

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Speaker 5: what great fighting for my men. Trump's got no shot

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Speaker 5: There's a grand scheme. To me, there's no reason for

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Speaker 5: I think, much like the State of the Union, this

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Speaker 1: What's up, Dean.

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Speaker 8: So here's my idea, guys.

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Speaker 9: I say each president ficks his own moderator, one each

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Speaker 9: like Tucker her callers, Techer Carlson would be a great

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Speaker 9: for Trump, and then whoever Biden wants, they both get

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Speaker 9: answered the same question from each moderator to answer it.

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Speaker 9: They press on back and forth, back and forth, like

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Speaker 9: a duel, and then at the no teleprompters, no earbuds,

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Speaker 9: no holds barred, you get two hours.

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't dislike that idea. It's kind of

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Speaker 5: like a second in a duel. You get to pick

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Speaker 5: your guy who's going to be there to help you

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Speaker 5: in the duel. I don't think they would go for

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Speaker 5: it because I think the Biden team would say, oh

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Speaker 5: my goodness, who's Trump going to pick? And I think

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Speaker 5: probably Biden would pick who would be picked Rachel Maddow.

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Speaker 5: Rachel Maddow Tucker potentially would be I think really great

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Speaker 5: riveting television. I also think you get honest answers that

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Speaker 5: would eliminate this is my argument on Fox News should

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Speaker 5: pick someone, in MSNBCC should pick one, and they should

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Speaker 5: only ask the opposing party. In theory, I think that

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Speaker 5: would at least address the moderation and try to balance

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Speaker 5: it out to give us a fairer content.

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Speaker 2: The other way you could do this would be to

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Speaker 2: really make it very fair but very sterile. And the

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Speaker 2: way to do that would be a moderator who uh,

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Speaker 2: they're they're going to propose, They're going to let them

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Speaker 2: know what the topics, maybe even the questions are openly,

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Speaker 2: let them know what they are in advance, and then

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Speaker 2: really just allow dueling monologues where you have sixty seconds

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Speaker 2: and the other person's mic is cut and then you

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Speaker 2: have sixty seconds. I mean, you know, you could construct

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Speaker 2: something that would be truly equal time and that would

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Speaker 2: be truly unslanted by the moderators, But I don't think

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Speaker 2: it would be good TV. And that's the other challenge

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Speaker 2: of this. As long as there's an interest in making

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Speaker 2: it good TV for ratings purposes, because there's millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars of revenue attached to this, you know, and also

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Speaker 2: the branding for the network. I mean having your host. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'll say it right now. If they offered to have

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Speaker 2: Clay and I do the moderation, we would do it

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Speaker 2: because it's obviously great branding for your show or your

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Speaker 2: your platform, whatever it is to do it. As long

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Speaker 2: as that's the case, the incentives are not to have

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Speaker 2: it be truly fair. The incentives are to have it

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Speaker 2: be the best TV you can create. One more idea here,

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Speaker 2: as we go to break a mote with piranhas in it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I love that.

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Speaker 5: I think Trump should demand drug testing. I don't even

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Speaker 5: know what the drug testing could reveal. I'm not I mean,

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Speaker 5: I don't think Trump or Biden are doing coke or

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Speaker 5: you know, like using hard drugs.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's taking steroids. Take a little trend on the side.

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Speaker 2: He's got some got some tea, some Exhaustina's testosterone he's taken.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying I would love to see the drug

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Speaker 5: test results. I think it would be funny for it

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Speaker 5: for Trump to say it, like, just come out and

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Speaker 5: say they're shooting Biden up with something horse tranquilizer.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're putting in. Is there want?

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm pretty pretty well versed from just

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Speaker 2: I find pharmacology. Is that the right thing to be

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Speaker 2: pretty fascinating area of I actually have a couple of

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Speaker 2: books at holding and I'm reading now on the discovery

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Speaker 2: of new drugs and things. Is there something you can

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Speaker 2: give an old person to make them sharp for a while,

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Speaker 2: like if you fill them with Riddlin or something?

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 1: I think?

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Speaker 2: Do we have any anyone out there who has a

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Speaker 2: psych who's a psychiatrist or as an MD who could

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Speaker 2: speak to this, because everyone who says there's shooting Biden

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Speaker 2: up with stuff, I'm like, where was that stuff when

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Speaker 2: I was taking final exams?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: No, it's a great question, and uh, well everybody's on

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Speaker 5: adderall now?

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Speaker 2: Is the answer to you? I mean like, it's just

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Speaker 2: like a lot of caffeine. Really, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: think if you have dementia that's not It might help

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Speaker 2: you focus and be alert, but you know, if you're

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Speaker 2: if you have dementia, adderall is not gonna I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's gonna save you, is it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I don't. This is a good question.

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Speaker 5: If you're a doctor out there and you were given

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Speaker 5: the opportunity to prescribe something to someone in advance of

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Speaker 5: a debate that you think would help their performance, is

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Speaker 5: there a drug that you could take short?

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about something you pained for years.

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Speaker 2: Really, we want to know what drug is doctor Jill

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Speaker 2: Biden prescribing from him out of her extensive MD knowledge.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get angry emails about this.

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Speaker 5: We know she's not a real indeed, we know, but

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Speaker 5: I would love to hear from doctors out there. What

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Speaker 5: could you do to make some you know, like they

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Speaker 5: do beta blockers for golfers, it's a big deal because

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Speaker 5: Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are both super excited

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Speaker 5: to welcome in right now with US Arizona Senate candidate

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Speaker 5: Carrie Lake. Carrie, we got a lot to hit run

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Speaker 5: through with you, but let's start here. I know that

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Speaker 5: it is a national presidential election that's underway, but when

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Speaker 5: you hear Biden want to debate on June twenty seventh

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Speaker 5: and on September tenth. What do you think that debate

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Speaker 5: will be like for Trump and Biden? And what does

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Speaker 5: it tell you that Biden wants debates so soon? Your state,

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Speaker 5: Arizona is a battleground state. How is the national election

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Speaker 5: playing and how do you think all that will implicate

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Speaker 5: your race?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm really excited to watch these debates. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be musty TV. It's interesting. You know, he

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Speaker 4: acted like mister tough guy in this video, but when

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Speaker 4: you reach this small print, he's got a lot of

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Speaker 4: requirements for that debate. No crowds, because I'm sure he

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Speaker 4: knows he's been boot off the stage by just everyday

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Speaker 4: average Americans, you know, even Democrats. I'm out in the field,

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Speaker 4: I'm out campaigning right now, and I'm going to town,

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Speaker 4: and the crowds are increasingly growing with Democrats who are

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Speaker 4: attending to hear what I have to say about turning

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Speaker 4: Arizona around and helping our country. They are set up

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Speaker 4: the sky high Inflation's affecting them just as it's affecting Republicans.

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Speaker 4: So I think he's afraid of even Democrat voters at

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Speaker 4: this point. But it's going to be great. President Trump,

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Speaker 4: no matter what the requirements Joe Biden puts on, will

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Speaker 4: win this debate. I'm putting all my money on President Trump,

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Speaker 4: and I think the rest of this country is as well.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Kerry, thanks, thanks for being here with us. The

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Speaker 2: way they're structuring this, let's assume that Trump more or

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Speaker 2: less agrees to the laundry list of things that Biden wants.

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Speaker 2: You were as certainly people in Area Zona now I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of other folks now have come to

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Speaker 2: know this as well. About you a TV news anchor

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Speaker 2: for decades, right, so you've you've been in the media

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Speaker 2: game for a long time before you were running for

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Speaker 2: politics on political office. What do you think the best

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Speaker 2: way is that this should be structured. Is there even

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Speaker 2: a moderator that you think would be acceptable to both

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Speaker 2: sides that would work in this case? How do you

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Speaker 2: break that down?

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough because you know, so many people

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Speaker 4: are if you say one nice thing about President Trump,

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Speaker 4: they say, oh, you're maga and you're not fair anymore.

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Speaker 4: But I think there are moderators who could. I've done debates,

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Speaker 4: I've moderated debates and forums before, and you know, you

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Speaker 4: have to check your beliefs and your views to the

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Speaker 4: side and just be fair. And I think there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of people right now who could do that. You know,

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Speaker 4: Joe Rogan would be great. You can't say Joe Rogan

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Speaker 4: is a Republican or a Democrat. I think he's truly independent.

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Speaker 4: Scott Adams. I can think John Solomon is a true

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Speaker 4: journalist out there. Maria Bartiro, she would be great because

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Speaker 4: she understands the economy, you know, and all of the

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Speaker 4: questions that are going to be based on the economy.

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Speaker 4: You need to have someone who truly understands what they're

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Speaker 4: talking about.

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Speaker 1: By by the way, breaking news.

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Speaker 4: I think we should have a live audience, absolutely, and

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Speaker 4: maybe even take some questions from the audience.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt at all. By the way, Carrie,

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Speaker 1: this just came from Trump.

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Speaker 5: He says he wants Biden to debate him on Fox

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Speaker 5: News Wednesday, October two, twenty twenty four. Host would be

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Speaker 5: Brett Behar and Martha McCollum. That's interesting, So that literally

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Speaker 5: just came down from Trump. All right, let's go to Arizona,

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Speaker 5: New York Times. Ciena Polling, I'm sure you get all

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Speaker 5: sorts of polls that are currently underway in Arizona showed

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Speaker 5: Trump opening up a substantial.

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Speaker 1: Lead in Arizona.

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Speaker 5: You are in a super tight race with Ruben Diego,

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Speaker 5: your opponent out there. Do you think Trump is winning

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Speaker 5: Arizona right now? First part of this question, like the

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Speaker 5: New York Times Siena poll showed, and what makes you

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Speaker 5: think that you can catch Ruben to the extent you're

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Speaker 5: behind or do you think you're up right now based

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Speaker 5: on what you see polling data wise?

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Speaker 4: Well, I saw that poll and I had a meeting

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Speaker 4: yesterday with my polster, and we're really happy with that poll.

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Speaker 4: First of all, when you look at the fine print

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Speaker 4: in that pole, they underrepresented Republicans, even though Republicans have

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Speaker 4: a large edge over Democrats. So when you rewait that

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Speaker 4: poll with what the actual voters are and what they

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Speaker 4: the turnout will be here in Arizona, we're actually up

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Speaker 4: or tied. But regardless of how you look at it,

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Speaker 4: we're right there in the margin of era. It's going

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Speaker 4: to be close. President Trump, I believe is up bigger

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Speaker 4: than what the New York Times poll says. He's up.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the streets of Arizona every day, and you've

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Speaker 4: got to remember, you know, Ruben Diego, my radical far

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Speaker 4: left Chicago Democrat frankly marks this opponent. He just spent

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Speaker 4: seven million dollars and carpet bomb the airways with a

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Speaker 4: bunch of bogus ads trying to paint him as a

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Speaker 4: moderate when he is the most radical Democrat to ever

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Speaker 4: run in the state of Arizona and possibly in the country.

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Speaker 4: He actually makes Elizabeth Warren an AOC, look almost moderate.

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Speaker 4: He just spent seven million dollars and did not see

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Speaker 4: a bump in the polls. They are in panic mode.

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Speaker 4: They just announced they're going to put twenty million more

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Speaker 4: in ads. Listen if they want to flush money down

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Speaker 4: the toilet and run a bunch of ads. People are

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Speaker 4: awake to who Reuben Diego is. He's voted for the

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Speaker 4: open border policies. He's pro sanctuary city. He marched and

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Speaker 4: defund the police rallies. He has voted in one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent in lockstep with Joe Biden. He's the reason we're

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Speaker 4: seeing the high inflation rates. He's the reason we're seeing

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Speaker 4: The scary thing is he's a Biden mini me when

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Speaker 4: it comes to policy, but he's forty years younger. So

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Speaker 4: if we don't stop him right now, we're going to

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Speaker 4: our neighbors, make sure they're registered to vote. Nobody can

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Speaker 4: afford to sit home this next election. I feel confident

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Speaker 4: that President Trump will win and sweep Arizona, and I

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Speaker 4: feel confident that I will win. He has endorsed me.

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Speaker 4: He wants me to help him out when I get

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Speaker 4: to the US Senate and getting his America First agenda

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Speaker 4: pushed through.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking to.

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Speaker 2: Kerry Lake, she's running for a critical Senate seat in

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Speaker 2: Arizona carry. I'm just wanting you mentioned some of the

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Speaker 2: big ticket items, if you will, things like the border, inflation,

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Speaker 2: the economy, those are all trending against Biden and all

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Speaker 2: the Democrats who go along with him, like Diegos, your

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Speaker 2: opponent in this race. What about the campus protests and

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Speaker 2: the Biden administrations knifing Israel in the back. Is that

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Speaker 2: nationally we know that has some real implications. We're seeing

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Speaker 2: it planned in Michigan. Does it have any implications as

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Speaker 2: you can see it in Arizona, whether it's the protests,

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, hot, every I mean, it just shows he's

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Speaker 4: showing our allies that we don't stand by them, and

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Speaker 4: it's going to make things worse for us when it

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Speaker 4: a laughing stock that nobody respects them, nobody fears him.

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Speaker 4: We used to have peace through strength, Now we have

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Speaker 4: it's been disastrous. But let me tell you what I'm

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Speaker 4: seeing on the ground. We've been going to college campuses.

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Speaker 4: This young group of people that are in college right

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Speaker 4: now about ready to graduate, are waking up to the

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Speaker 4: fact that Joe Biden not only is he not cool,

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Speaker 4: his policies are killing them. And they're waking up and

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Speaker 4: realizing that we have to get back to a strong

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Speaker 4: economy as they get ready to go into the workforce.

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Speaker 4: You know, the unemployment numbers that Biden released, I think

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Speaker 4: it was three point four percent unemployment, but when you

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Speaker 4: look closer for young people eighteen to forty nine, it's

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Speaker 4: eleven point one percent unemployment. They also recognize that the

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Speaker 4: things that they used to buy four or five years

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Speaker 4: ago are in some cases more than twice as much

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Speaker 4: money right now. So they're looking at themselves entering into

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Speaker 4: a job market that's very shaky for them, not being

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Speaker 4: able to afford the basic necessities, not being able to

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Speaker 4: afford rent, and they are very quickly becoming America First Republicans.

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Speaker 4: So and plus they're watching all of that chaos on

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Speaker 4: the campus, which they're finding out is funded by a

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Speaker 4: bunch of people who fund the Democrats and Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: and my opponent Ruben Gyego, the people funding all of

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Speaker 4: that chaos tearing their campus apart, are behind people like Biden,

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Speaker 4: Ruben Gego and other leftists who are destroying our country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw the Arizona State freck. Guys.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you saw that video cleaning up the mess

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Speaker 5: from the Palestinian protesters, and it went super viral and

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Speaker 5: I loved it as we saw a lot of people

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Speaker 5: on campus standing up to them.

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Speaker 1: Question for you.

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Speaker 5: Abortion has been a mess all over the country, in

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Speaker 5: particular focused in Arizona eighteen sixty four law. The Arizona

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Speaker 5: Supreme Court involved the state legislature of both the House

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Speaker 5: and the Senate. I believe have addressed this. What is

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Speaker 5: going on there? How much of an issue do you believe,

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Speaker 5: not only statewide but also for the national election, given

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Speaker 5: how close it's going to be there is abortion going

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Speaker 5: to play? What are you hearing on the ground and

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Speaker 5: what's the situation likely to be by the time people

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the Democrats want to make that their issue,

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Speaker 4: But the real fact of the matter is when people

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Speaker 4: can't afford groceries, when people can't afford gasoline, when they're

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Speaker 4: being evicted from their apartment because they can't afford the

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Speaker 4: rent anymore. When we're watching as twelve million people pour

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Speaker 4: across their border and drive down wages because it's cheap labor,

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Speaker 4: and we have to put the bill for putting them

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Speaker 4: up in housing them services, I think that it takes

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Speaker 4: a back burner. It really is on the back burner.

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Speaker 4: Were back to the law that we had for several years,

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Speaker 4: the fifteen week law. It was approved and voted in

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Speaker 4: by both Republicans and Democrats, and a Republican governor signed

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Speaker 4: it into law. That is our current law in Arizona,

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Speaker 4: and I believe people when they get to the polls

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Speaker 4: will decide on that. We will have the choice between

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Speaker 4: the fifteen week law and a planned parents who voter

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Speaker 4: initiative that will pretty much legalize abortion right up until birth.

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Speaker 4: So I agree with President Trump. It's going to be

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Speaker 4: up to the states. The people of Arizona will decide

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Speaker 4: which law they want, and I'm running for US Senate,

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Speaker 4: so this is now in the hands of the state.

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Speaker 4: But I will tell you this as a US Senator,

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Speaker 4: I will never vote to approve federal funding to support abortion.

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Speaker 4: I will also never vote for a federal abortion ban.

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Speaker 4: I agree with the Supreme Court it should be left

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Speaker 4: up to the states. But what I do want to

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Speaker 4: see guys, is that we work with pro family legislation

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Speaker 4: to encourage families. Watch our population growth. It's going way down.

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Speaker 4: We're actually going to be at a critical point if

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Speaker 4: we don't start growing families and having babies in this country,

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Speaker 4: and so I want to push good pro family laws.

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Speaker 4: In Hungary, I had a chance to visit with Victor

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Speaker 4: Orbon about a year ago, and I noticed that they

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Speaker 4: had cut their abortion rate in half, nearly in half,

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Speaker 4: and they never changed a single law. They did it

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Speaker 4: through pro family legislation to encourage people to start a

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Speaker 4: family and grow their family. And you know this, just

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Speaker 4: as I do, that the country is only as strong

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Speaker 4: as our most important institution, and that institution is the family.

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Speaker 4: And right now the foundation of our families is pretty shaky,

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Speaker 4: and we need to do something to change that. And

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Speaker 4: I'll be the most pro family senator in the US.

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Speaker 2: Senate Kerry Lake running for Senate Carrie. We're going to

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Speaker 2: keep talking to you. Is this guy's closer and this

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Speaker 2: audience is going to help out. So thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us.

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Speaker 4: Thank you visit Terrylake dot com and support our campaign.

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Speaker 4: We're going to bring about some good American first policies

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Speaker 4: to turn this Biden nightmare around.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: You know, Carrie was just talking to us about the

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Speaker 2: family and expanding the American family by having more and

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Speaker 2: more children, and how in other places even they figured

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Speaker 2: out ways to save many lives. She talked about a

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Speaker 2: voluntary drop in the number of abortions in Hungary, about

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Speaker 2: fifty percent. This is the battle that we're in here

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Speaker 2: in this country right now as well. Abortion is not

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Speaker 2: illegal in a majority of states, nowhere near it. In fact,

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Speaker 2: a lot of states have had an increase in abortions

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Speaker 2: post Row v.

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Speaker 1: Wade's end.

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Speaker 2: So there's something that can be done about it to

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Speaker 2: save lives. Right now. We can continue to have this

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Speaker 2: and we will. But every day there are lives being

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Speaker 2: lost that could be saved, and that's where Preborn comes in.

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Speaker 2: Preborn is the largest pro life nonprofit organization in the country,

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, finishing up

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Speaker 5: the Wednesday edition of the program. Appreciate all of you

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Speaker 5: hanging out with us. We have He's got a clip

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Speaker 5: that I want to play for Buck. This is Harrison Butker,

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Speaker 5: who is the Kansas City chiefs Kicker. He was speaking

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Speaker 5: at a recent event, a Catholic graduation for a college

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Speaker 5: and he talked about women and the idea of being

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Speaker 5: homemakers based on his own success in life. It has

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Speaker 5: blown up into a major controversy. Buck has not heard it.

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Speaker 5: Let's play cut twenty nine.

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Speaker 10: I want to speak directly to you briefly because I

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Speaker 10: think it is you, the women who have had the

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Speaker 10: most diabolical lives told to you. How many of you

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Speaker 10: are sitting here now about to cross this stage and

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Speaker 10: are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are

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Speaker 10: going to get in your career. Some of you may

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Speaker 10: go on to lead successful careers in the world, but

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Speaker 10: I would venture to guess that the majority of you

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Speaker 10: are most excited about your marriage and the children you

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Speaker 10: will bring into this world. I can tell you that

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Speaker 10: my beautiful wife. Isabelle would be the first to say

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Speaker 10: that her life truly started when she began living her

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Speaker 10: voca as a wife and as a mother. I'm on

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Speaker 10: this stage today and able to be the man I

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Speaker 10: am because I have a wife who leans into her location.

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Speaker 10: I beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me.

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Speaker 10: But it cannot be overstated that all of my success

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Speaker 10: is made possible because a girl I met in being

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Speaker 10: class back in middle school would convert to the faith,

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Speaker 10: become my wife, and embrace one of the most important

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Speaker 10: titles of all homemaker.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great contract. I love it, ten out of ten,

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Speaker 2: ten out of.

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Speaker 1: Ten to you.

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Speaker 5: He was speaking at the Benedictine College at Atchinson, Kansas.

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Speaker 5: If I messed any of that up, I'm not familiar.

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Speaker 2: I'll say, first of all, I mean, this is so

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Speaker 2: important and there need to be far more people that

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Speaker 2: are talking about this. I career switched out of the

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Speaker 2: CIA into media, and I did so now in retrospect,

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Speaker 2: at the expense of starting a family earlier. And that's

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Speaker 2: a tough call, and I would not recommend it for

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Speaker 2: most people. I would recommend people getting married younger and

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Speaker 2: starting their families younger, I would not do what's very

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Speaker 2: normal here in New York City, which is push as

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Speaker 2: hard as you can until forty and then turn around

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Speaker 2: and build your life as you want it then, because honestly,

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Speaker 2: whether you make VP at Goldman or you make partner

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Speaker 2: at the law firm or whatever, it's just not going

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Speaker 2: to matter in the end. Your kids, your family, your

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Speaker 2: loved ones, your wife, your husband, That's what's going to

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Speaker 2: matter in the end.

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Speaker 1: And I already know that that's well said by you.

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Speaker 5: I give credit to Harrison Vucker here because I know

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Speaker 5: so many of you out there are raising families. I

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Speaker 5: became a dad at twenty eight. To your point, Buck,

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Speaker 5: I was relatively young.

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Speaker 2: Which is like in New York City terms, might as

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Speaker 2: well be high school age, Like that's really young.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was super young to become a dad, relatively speaking,

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Speaker 5: especially for somebody who stayed in school till twenty five

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Speaker 5: to become a lawyer. It's the right decision. I'm so

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Speaker 5: glad that I did it, but it had a lot

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Speaker 5: of struggles. We didn't have a lot of money. My

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Speaker 5: wife and I early in our life, we were spending

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Speaker 5: more money on childcare than we would have had to

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Speaker 5: pay for tuition and life got a lot better when

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Speaker 5: we had the ability to have one parent stay at home.

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Speaker 5: It can be the dad or the mom, but that

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Speaker 5: is ideal and I think that's really what Harrison Bucker's

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Speaker 5: just talking about.

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Speaker 1: Why are they mad at it? That's a question. Crazy

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Speaker 1: d