WEBVTT - What Is Time Dilation?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Daniel, do you somebody's feel when you're bored time

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<v Speaker 1>slows down? That never happens to me when I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you, or Hey, every conversation with you is riveting,

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<v Speaker 1>It goes back super fast. That's right. Time just flies by,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and call you up, and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden it's hours later. Do you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the idea that maybe time is relative in our heads. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's true. When you're waiting for something, time

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it goes really slow. When you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite podcast hosts, it just whizzes right by. We're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bad at measuring time as a species, are we really?

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<v Speaker 1>Like our brains are not good at estimating time? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they do all these experiments where they ask people to

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<v Speaker 1>estimate how long something has been, and they always over underestimated.

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<v Speaker 1>So psychologically time can be relative. That's proven. But what

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<v Speaker 1>about physics can that actually happen? Yeah? It turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that physics also doesn't provide a bedrock layer of truth

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<v Speaker 1>that time can slow down. Huh, So there's no universal clock, like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no impartial, godlike measure of time. That's right. So

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<v Speaker 1>if next time you're late for a meeting, you can

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<v Speaker 1>just say, hey, I got my own clock and my

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<v Speaker 1>observer says I was on time. Physics gives you an

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<v Speaker 1>excuse to be late for your meeting. And I'm Daniel.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to our podcast Daniel and Jorgey explain the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>in which we take plenty of time to explain to

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<v Speaker 1>you how time works in the universe. Hey, yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>here to help you. Whatever it is you're doing, communing

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<v Speaker 1>to work on a subway, going out for a jog.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here to help the time move a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>faster for you. That's right. We're here to kill some

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<v Speaker 1>time for you, and out's time to get on with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So today's topic is why do clocks run slower when

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<v Speaker 1>they are moving fast? That's right. This is a really

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<v Speaker 1>popular thing for people to get confused about in relativity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's technically called time dilation, the fact that clocks that

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<v Speaker 1>move fast run slow, and it's a topic that confuses

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<v Speaker 1>people from here to infinity. Yeah, it's the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going really fast, maybe it close up the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light, then time slows down for you. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing we want to understand today is not

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<v Speaker 1>just does it happen, but why does it happen? What

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<v Speaker 1>is it about the universe that makes that the way

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<v Speaker 1>it really works? And the thing that I love about

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<v Speaker 1>this is that it's one of the best examples of

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<v Speaker 1>how the universe doesn't work the way you think it does,

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<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't make sense to our sort of intuitive

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of the way the world should work, right, especially

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<v Speaker 1>at these extreme conditions. Right, that's right, because we're not

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<v Speaker 1>used to those extreme conditions. So we've like operated in

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on the surface of the Earth, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty slow speeds for thousands and thousands of years. We

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<v Speaker 1>build up these intuitive models for how we think the

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<v Speaker 1>universe behaves right, what the rules are, And one of

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<v Speaker 1>those rules is that we think that there is a

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<v Speaker 1>absolute history, right, We think that there is a reality

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<v Speaker 1>out there and that something actually happens and in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody should agree if they're honest observers about what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out that's just not true. And hopefully this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a topic that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have hopefully I think maybe have heard about. It's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of permeated out into popular culture a little bit, right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the basis of the movie Interstellar. I knew you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to talk about Interstellar Interstellar reference, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big example of it in pop culture, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think, really Interstellar was a pretty big movie

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what your physicists thinks of it, and my

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<v Speaker 1>year and my year physicist is that how used to

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<v Speaker 1>refer to me? No, Interstellar actually did a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>job of modeling the relativity portion. My issues with the

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<v Speaker 1>Interstellar are more about the time travel and going inside

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<v Speaker 1>a black hole. But from the point of view of relativity,

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<v Speaker 1>that made a lot of sense. I mean, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was good that they actually built into the plot

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<v Speaker 1>what would happen to various people's clocks. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>key thing, is that relativity is all about comparing clocks.

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<v Speaker 1>How fast is my clock going to your compared to

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<v Speaker 1>your clock? So we're going to assume that you have

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<v Speaker 1>heard of this concept that if you are in a

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<v Speaker 1>spaceship going really fast and time will slow down for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were wondering how many people out there know why?

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<v Speaker 1>So as usual, I tortured the undergraduates of you see

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<v Speaker 1>Irvine by walking around and asking them random questions without

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<v Speaker 1>any preparation. And remember, for those of you who think

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<v Speaker 1>that these answers are silly, these are hard questions to

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<v Speaker 1>answer on the top of your head, so give them

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<v Speaker 1>some slack. It's tortured. This called the physics boarding, enhanced

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<v Speaker 1>physics exactly, physics boarding, you know, exactly. I'm gonna cover

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<v Speaker 1>your face with a towel and poor physics on your face. Um. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the undergrads are gonna recognize me, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, don't let that guy talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll embarrass you. Run away. We're not trying to embarrass

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<v Speaker 1>these people. No, it's great. I think I would be

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<v Speaker 1>totally flabbergasted if you asked me these questions out of

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<v Speaker 1>the street. All right, I'll plan the ambush you one day.

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<v Speaker 1>So before you listen to these answers, think for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what time dilation is? Can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>why moving clocks run more slowly? Here's what people had

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<v Speaker 1>to say. Have you heard of time dilation? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know that clocks that move really fast go slower? This

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<v Speaker 1>is trying your information to me. Yes, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>why that is? No? I don't know the real reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, No, no, there is no time, thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So maybe I was a little wrong. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have heard about this concept. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are even people out there that deny the

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<v Speaker 1>time exists. Right, there is no time, there is no

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<v Speaker 1>concept of time, or that there was not enough time

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<v Speaker 1>to explain it to you. You know, I was so

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<v Speaker 1>flabbergasted by the response. I couldn't even formulate a follow

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<v Speaker 1>up question. I was like still processing, like, what does

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<v Speaker 1>that even mean? Wow? Did he did he just dropped

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<v Speaker 1>or she dropped the bike? There is no time? Great phase.

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<v Speaker 1>She said it with a lot of finality. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't a whole lot of opening there for interrogation

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<v Speaker 1>or follow up questions. It was like, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>clearly known fact, there is no time. Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>she was just going to rush and she's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no time for this. No. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely more of the time and time is an illusion.

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<v Speaker 1>So an answer, Yeah, I've heard of that time is

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<v Speaker 1>an illusion. Yeah, Well, I think we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>a whole other podcast episode about what is time and

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<v Speaker 1>how does it work? And why does it only go

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<v Speaker 1>forward and all that kind of stuff. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of related. This topic is related to that idea

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<v Speaker 1>that time is not what we think it is. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>We've met a lot of progress in the last hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years in understanding time, and we've connected it to space.

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<v Speaker 1>You've probably heard the concept of space time, right. We

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<v Speaker 1>have three dimensions at least of space and one dimension

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and Einstein's relativity tied them together and showed

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<v Speaker 1>us how time and space are connected. But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that time can be simply understood as a fourth

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<v Speaker 1>dimension of space. It's much more complicated. It's different from

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<v Speaker 1>the other dimensions of space. Yeah, they're all tied together, time, speed, space,

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<v Speaker 1>It's all one big molasses of a universe. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>one big tangle. The amazing thing is that it actually

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<v Speaker 1>all does work. You know. We have this new version

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<v Speaker 1>of our understanding of the universe, not that new anymore

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<v Speaker 1>as a hundred years old, but this revised version of

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<v Speaker 1>our understanding the universe, and it actually hangs together. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the answers that gives you don't make any sense to

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<v Speaker 1>your intuition, Like they fly in the face of what

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<v Speaker 1>you think should happen. They require you to like throw

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<v Speaker 1>out the way you think the universe works, but they

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<v Speaker 1>actually do hang together mathematically and they are correct. Like

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<v Speaker 1>every time we make a ridiculous prediction from relativity and

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<v Speaker 1>God and check it, the universe is like, yep, that

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous thing actually happens. Well, let's bring it down for people.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does it mean for clocks to run slower

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<v Speaker 1>when they move fast? So that's that's what we're exploring,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what we're trying to explain, is why when

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<v Speaker 1>you're moving really fast, your clock is going to actually

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<v Speaker 1>slow down. Right, And so let's be very careful and

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<v Speaker 1>how we say this, because a lot of people get confused.

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<v Speaker 1>People think that if you are moving fast, that your

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<v Speaker 1>clock slows down. That like, if you're looking at your

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<v Speaker 1>watch and running that you can see the seconds tick slower.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not true. If you're holding a clock and the

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<v Speaker 1>clock is not moving relative to you, you'll always see

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<v Speaker 1>it moving at one second per second. Okay, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how fast you're going relative to anything else, your clock

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<v Speaker 1>always runs the same way. It's not like I get

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<v Speaker 1>on a spaceship hit the warp speed and then that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I experienced. That's right. You never notice your

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<v Speaker 1>own time changing, right, you experienced time at one second

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<v Speaker 1>per second, no matter what. Okay, the thing that does

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<v Speaker 1>happen is that clock's moving relative to you. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm standing still and Horge has a clock and

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<v Speaker 1>he runs because he's a pretty zippy guy, if he

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<v Speaker 1>runs a half speed of light because I'm running late,

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<v Speaker 1>probably if I notice that he's moving really fast, then

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<v Speaker 1>I will see his clock running more slowly. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>now from his point of view, he will see his

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<v Speaker 1>clock running normally, but I will see his clock running

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<v Speaker 1>more slowly. If I'm zooming past you and you just

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<v Speaker 1>look at my clock as I'm zooing by, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be running at the same speed as your clock,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. If I'm watching you as you go by,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm watching your clock's hands tick forward, right, then

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<v Speaker 1>they don't agree with mine. Yours mark the seconds more

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<v Speaker 1>slowly than my clock does. And that's the key thing

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<v Speaker 1>is that the observation of time depends on your relative

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<v Speaker 1>velocity to the clock. So it's not that it actually

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<v Speaker 1>slowed down for me at least, it just you saw

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<v Speaker 1>it run slower. Right. I love how you try to

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<v Speaker 1>use the word actually right because you're in your imagining,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some true version of the effect of the effect, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just this is an illusion or it looks this way,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not actually happening. The problem is there is

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<v Speaker 1>no what actually happened. Okay, I observe one thing, you

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<v Speaker 1>observe something else. We can both be right even if

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<v Speaker 1>those accounts disagree. WHOA Okay, So then I'm running past

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<v Speaker 1>you really fast with a clock and you see it

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<v Speaker 1>run slower than I do, or it's running slower than

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<v Speaker 1>your clock. Then what happens if I stopped, like if

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped a few paces after you, Does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>our clocks are going to be out of sync? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>our clocks will definitely be out of sync, exactly, And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of interesting effects there. Right. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a I'm standing still from my point of view, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're running past me. I see your clock moving

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<v Speaker 1>more slowly. I see my clock running normally. Right, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you see? Well, you see your clock running normally, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody sees their own clock running normally. But you

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<v Speaker 1>also see my clock running slowly because even though you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing doing the running, I'm moving relative to you and

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<v Speaker 1>your clock. So then what happens if I stopped, Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna think time moved normally, But when when I

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<v Speaker 1>compare my clock to your clock, your clock will have

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<v Speaker 1>skipped ahead because right or no, we'll have skip back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really tricky, okay, and we should probably avoid

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<v Speaker 1>this topic. Well maybe we won't. Let's dig into it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is called the twin paradox, right, This is people say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you reconcile this? Right? So the classic framing

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<v Speaker 1>of this is, say we're twins, right, and I stay

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<v Speaker 1>on We draw straws for Hugas to go to Alpha Centauri,

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<v Speaker 1>and you lose. So you have to go to Alpha

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<v Speaker 1>Centauri or you win. You have to go to Alpha Centauri.

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<v Speaker 1>I stand on Earth and you take a rocket shipped

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<v Speaker 1>Alpha Centauri, and I see your clock running more slowly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we sink First of all, we sink clocks like

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<v Speaker 1>before I take off. Yes, we're just going to sink clocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Time zero start go now, that's right, and I see

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<v Speaker 1>your clock running more slowly. Meanwhile, you have telescope. You're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at my clock. You see mine running more slowly. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we both see the other person as aging more slowly. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now after a hundred years, you see me as

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<v Speaker 1>only being ten years older, and I see you as

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<v Speaker 1>only being ten years older, right, right, So then I

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<v Speaker 1>come back and then what happened? Who's older? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's break this down really carefully because it is tricky.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the Earth twin is watching the ship twins clock,

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<v Speaker 1>he of course sees time moving more slowly on the ship, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's relativity. The same way when the ship twin watches

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth twins clock, he also sees time moving more

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<v Speaker 1>slowly on Earth. So far everything is symmetric, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we like it. Because you could be in ship,

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<v Speaker 1>you could be in the Earth. That shouldn't really matter,

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<v Speaker 1>right now. If they just kept going this way, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>would change. Of course, they would have conflicting views of

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<v Speaker 1>whose clock is moving slower, right, But that's okay. In relativity,

0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you can have two people with conflicting but both correct

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<v Speaker 1>views of the same situation, right, Because there is no

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate truth, right, your answer is depend on your speed

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<v Speaker 1>and your location. So what happens to break the symmetry?

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<v Speaker 1>The symmetry is broken when the space twin turns around.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an acceleration, right, That changes everything. Well, only the

0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.840
<v Speaker 1>space twin does any acceleration, so that makes his case different, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And during that acceleration, the time on Earth seems to

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<v Speaker 1>zoom forward really fast from the point of view of

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<v Speaker 1>the space twin. So on the way back, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>sees Earth moving fast and Earth clock going slowly. But

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<v Speaker 1>during that acceleration Earth time has leapt forward really far,

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<v Speaker 1>so that when the space twin gets back to Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>he's younger than his twin on Earth. Right, And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason they're no longer symmetric is that only the space

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<v Speaker 1>twin has done any acceleration, so you shouldn't expect them

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<v Speaker 1>to be the same from each point of view. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the coming back that then lets me stay younger. Yeah, exactly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's dig into it even more. But let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break, all right. So this idea that time

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<v Speaker 1>moves slower when you're going fast, it's what's cool is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's always happening, right. It doesn't just happen when

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<v Speaker 1>you're going at the speed of light or close to

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. It's it happens like on your

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis, That's right. It applies all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It always applies to things that have velocity relative to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a really tiny effect if you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>really really fast. So when you're driving sixty in the freeway, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your clock is running a little bit slower, but you'll

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<v Speaker 1>never notice it. Wow, but it's there. Like if we're

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<v Speaker 1>all feeling relativity and time dilation all the time everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way to escape relativity. It is everywhere. It's

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<v Speaker 1>relatively everywhere. It's absolutely every Absolutely thing about relativity is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's everywhere. Okay, so it only happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>get it's only noticeable. You're saying, when you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>close the speed up. But I heard it happens to

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts here on Earth, like the Space Shuttle. The clocks

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<v Speaker 1>get out of sync with the clocks on Earth. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>though it takes a lot of precision to measure it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something like every six months or so they lose

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<v Speaker 1>like less than a hundredth of a second. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>something we can measure, and they have really precise clocks

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<v Speaker 1>precisely to measure this to verify these predictions, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something that people have really like qualitatively experienced. We

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had an astronaut come back, you know, deep into

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<v Speaker 1>the future and still feel young. And it goes really nonlinear, right,

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<v Speaker 1>as you get faster and faster, the effect gets stronger

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<v Speaker 1>and stronger. But they did do the twin experiment with astronauts, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>they sent to one twin into space for a whole year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he came back and technically he was point

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<v Speaker 1>oh one seconds younger. That's right. I wonder if he

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<v Speaker 1>was the one who was originally born first or the

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<v Speaker 1>one who's ovisually born second, because it be interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, well you used to be the older twin,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I'm the older twin. A should have stayed

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<v Speaker 1>up there for ten more years. Do you think growing

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<v Speaker 1>up twins still argue by that kind of stuff. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the older brother, so you have to listen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think they're both austers. They're probably trying

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<v Speaker 1>to one up each other. Well, yeah, I'm an engineer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm a pilot. Oh yeah, I'm a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an auster. Not me too, yeah, probably it never ends, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but technically that's true. He went out into space, went

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<v Speaker 1>around the Earth for a whole year. When he came back. Technically,

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<v Speaker 1>time for him moved one hundred of a second slower. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what he's gonna do with all that extra time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, scratches nose or something. Right, it's gone, he

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<v Speaker 1>lost it. He used it up. Yeah, But as you

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<v Speaker 1>go faster and faster, the effect gets stronger and stronger,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you approached the speed of light, time gets

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<v Speaker 1>so slow that we can say that if you go

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light, time would actually stop. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm zooming running past you at the speed of light,

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<v Speaker 1>you would see my clock totally frozen, exactly. Now, caveats

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<v Speaker 1>are important here. Nothing that has mass actually go the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light, right, and only massless things can go

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light, So you can never go the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of lights. Are saying I have much mass, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 1>You're pretty massive, dude, Yeah, by which I mean you're funny,

0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're massively awesome thanking, and you have a massively

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<v Speaker 1>excellent podcast, and you are brilliant. But you're not entirely

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<v Speaker 1>made of light. But that all right, Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just fishing for relative compliments. You're absolutely wonderful. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have somebody in a spaceship and they're going super

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<v Speaker 1>duper fast and they're approaching the speed of light, and

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<v Speaker 1>time slows down further and further, to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>it almost stops. But remember, for them, time doesn't slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like they're living in molasses. It's just our

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<v Speaker 1>observation of their time. So if somehow a photon had

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<v Speaker 1>a clock, yeah, our view of the photons clock would

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<v Speaker 1>be that it was frozen. Right for us, Photons don't

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<v Speaker 1>move forward in time. They are frozen in time. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you were a photon, what would your experience be. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to answer that because you're not a photon,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to have that concept of like ascension photon,

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<v Speaker 1>which seems impossible, but it's always basically an impossible question

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<v Speaker 1>to answer. But they remember, your time always moves forward

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<v Speaker 1>um at one second per second. Okay, so that's the

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<v Speaker 1>effect of time dilation. Time moves seems to move slower

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<v Speaker 1>when you're going faster. So let's get into why it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know why this happens. We do know why,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a consequence of another really strange, counterintuitive thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we've observed about the universe that makes very little sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a conundrum built on a conundrum. It's a bizarre,

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<v Speaker 1>counterintuitive consequence of something really weird about the universe and

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<v Speaker 1>really weird about light. Actually, it's the fact that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>always observes light going at the same speed, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how fast they're going relative to the source of the light. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's break it down what that means. So light travels

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<v Speaker 1>through space, but nobody can see it move faster than

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<v Speaker 1>that speed that light losing. That's right. There's a certain

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light that goes through space three times ten

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<v Speaker 1>to the eights per second. And we'll call it the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light. Of course. And if I'm standing on

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<v Speaker 1>a planet and I turn on a flashlight, then the

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<v Speaker 1>light leaves me and travels at three times tended them

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<v Speaker 1>per second away from me. Right, And if I'm and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're shooting it at me, then I see moving

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<v Speaker 1>towards me at three times ten to the eight meters

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<v Speaker 1>per second. Okay, that's right, even if you're even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on a rocket ship and you're moving towards me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>say you're moving towards me at half the speed of light.

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<v Speaker 1>I shoot my laser beam at you're my flashlight at you,

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<v Speaker 1>you still see that flashlight, the light from it coming

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<v Speaker 1>at you at the speed of light, right, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>different from you know, sound waves or rocks or something,

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<v Speaker 1>or a baseball. Like that's weird. Right, Like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>throw a baseball at me and I'm running full speed

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<v Speaker 1>towards you, that baseball is going to be it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look like it's moving really fast towards me. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>If I threw a baseball at you at a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour, which I promise I can totally do,

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<v Speaker 1>this is very realistic, and you're running towards me at

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<v Speaker 1>fifty miles an hour, which I'm sure you're totally capable of. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously I see the baseball is moving away from

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<v Speaker 1>me at a hundred miles per hour, but you see

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball is coming towards you at a hundred fifty

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<v Speaker 1>miles per hour. Right. That's the way it works for

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<v Speaker 1>normal things. But you're saying that if that baseball instead

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<v Speaker 1>of a baseball, it was a beam of light, that

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't happen. That's right. Light doesn't follow those rules. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who measures it measures it as traveling at that fixed

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light. No matter what. I mean, there are

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<v Speaker 1>caveats here, like it slows down and it travels through

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<v Speaker 1>air or water, whatever, But let's just talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>in a vacuum. The crazy thing is that doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>how fast you're going, everybody sees light is traveling at

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<v Speaker 1>this maximum speed of the universe, no matter what. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy, right and right there is where your concept

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody sees the same thing the same way, or

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<v Speaker 1>that there is one absolute truth that we're all observing

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<v Speaker 1>in different ways breaks down because your description of events

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<v Speaker 1>and my description events are going to be very different.

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<v Speaker 1>If we see light moving at different speeds. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>weird It's like a weird rule of the universe. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that light something can't travel at this faster than the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light. It's a weird rule that says nothing

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<v Speaker 1>can be seen to travel faster than the speed of light,

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<v Speaker 1>not even light. That's right. Light always travels at the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light, and nothing can travel faster than the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light. And these two things are connected, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because if light operated the same way as baseballs, then

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<v Speaker 1>you could see light moving as faster than the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light just by moving towards me. When I'm shooting

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<v Speaker 1>a laser at you, right then that light would be

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<v Speaker 1>moving relative to you. It's faster than the speed of light.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't right, you move towards me, and you

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<v Speaker 1>still measure light as moving at the same speed. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if you're running away from me or towards me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you shoot a light beam at me and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm running towards you really really, really fast, You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to measure the light moving at the speed of light.

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<v Speaker 1>And I should measure the light moving faster towards me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also going to measure it moving at the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light, even if I'm moving towards you or

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<v Speaker 1>away from you or to the side of you exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how fast and moving, I'm always going to

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<v Speaker 1>measure it and moving at the speed of light exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's crazy, right, It's bonkers, doesn't make any sense.

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's a famous experiment, Michael said. Morally, the experiment

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<v Speaker 1>that that did this, they shot beams of light in

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<v Speaker 1>two directions, and because the earth is moving, they figured, well,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is going to go slower than the

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<v Speaker 1>other one because the earth is moving, right, So they

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<v Speaker 1>did the experiment different times of year, and the light

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<v Speaker 1>came back took the same amount of time to go

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<v Speaker 1>in these two perpendicular directions every single time. And that

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<v Speaker 1>told them that that the speed at which light travels

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<v Speaker 1>is not dependent on how fast you are moving the

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<v Speaker 1>observer is moving. It's always the same speed. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it like some kind of um just like fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>limit in this stuff of the universe itself? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like nothing can propagate through this thing we call space

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<v Speaker 1>faster than the speed of light. Is that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what it's related to. Yeah, definitely, But it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>deep question and we don't have a solid answer to too.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does light always travel at this speed regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of the observer. We don't know the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to that. That's just like Einstein postulated that. He said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start from this crazy assumption and build the math

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<v Speaker 1>up from there, and if everything then works, and we'll say, well,

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that assumption must be true. And if you start from

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that assumption, you get all sorts of crazy predictions which

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>all turn out to be true. Right, So that is

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>a deep truth of the universe. But the answer is,

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 1>we don't know why. We don't know why light always

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>travels at the same speed, or a light is always

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>observed at the same speed, no matter who is doing

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the measuring and how fast they're going. It's a weird

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 1>rule about the universe. It's a weird, weird rule. And

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>when I meet the people who wrote the simulation, I'm

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask them, why did you do that, man that

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>made everything so complicated about the universe? One star on

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Yelp for that for that bit of load. No, I

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's there's a fascinating angle there, you know,

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>because we grew up sort of as a species in

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>an environment where nothing was near the speed of light,

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and so we never noticed this, and so we assume

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>things like everybody's clock runs at the same time because

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>we've always thought it did. And so they're not allowed

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>us to assume things like there must be some sort

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of absolute sense of time and absolute history and there's

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a really universe out there, and this is I mean,

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>this shakes the very foundations of how we even think

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 1>about the universe that's out there and whether it makes

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>sense at all. So it's it's pretty crazy stuff. I

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like we're kepped with weirdness at both ends of

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the specter. What I mean is like, if you move

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it close to the speed of light, things get weird.

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>But also if you don't move at all, things good weird.

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Right because of quantum physics and the uncertainty principle. Right,

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Like if you try to discertain things that zero velocity,

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>things get weird too. Things always get weird. I think

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 1>that's the takeaway, right. The universe is weird, like I

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>think I said last week, is weirder and stranger and

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>hotter and nastier and wetter than you could ever even imagine.

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>And the I think the craziest surprises about the way

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the universe work are still yet to come. You know,

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>we've made these discoveries that showed us to the universe

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>is so different from the way our ancestors have imagined.

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>There must be more of those discoveries coming. It's certainly

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>not the case that we figured them all out. There

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 1>are crazy revelations in our future. Well, that's good for

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>our podcast topics, that's right. Okay, let's so let's get

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>into how this affects time. But first let's take a

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 1>quick break. So we know that the speed of light,

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you can observe going anything faster than the speed of light.

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 1>So how does this affect how we view time or

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>how we experience time? Right, So it comes directly the

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>fact that light can't travel at any other speed is

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 1>what directly affects how time passes and how we measure time.

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And it can be a complicated topic, but I think

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the best way to do is to think about maybe

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>how a simple clock operates. So let's build a simple

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>clock that uses light. You mean like an Apple watch? Er, No,

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean let's imagine that you're you have to build

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a clock, and all you have as a laser, right,

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, for example, that light takes about

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 1>ten nanoseconds to go ten feet right, it goes about

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>one ft every nanosecond. So what you do is you

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>measure very precisely, you know, ten ft. You put a

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>mirror at the end, and then you shoot your laser.

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>You shoot a laser pulse, and you say, however long

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it takes to go um there and back. That's two seconds, right,

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 1>ten feet there and ten feetback. And you set up

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the mirrors in the floor and in the ceiling, right,

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 1>so that being is bouncing up and down right right,

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>So you you shoot the laser up towards the ceiling

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and back, and you know how far it is to

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>your ceiling and how far it is back to your floor,

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and so you say that's twenty ft, so that's two

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>seconds round trip. Oh I see. So then the way

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you turn that into a clock is you count how

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:01.719
<v Speaker 1>many times the light bounces up and down the ceiling,

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and that sort of gives you a sense of how

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>time is moving. That's right. You want to say, well,

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 1>how long does it take my cat to finish his lunch?

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>And so you count how many times it takes the

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>laser pults to go up to the ceiling and back,

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's the number of two second intervals it takes

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>your cat to eat his lunch. Okay, so that's where

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>it seems like a pretty impractical clock. But hey, this

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>this is how we do things in physics. Man, be like,

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>can we build this thing using lasers? What's the most

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>inconvenient wristwatch we can build with lasers at home? The

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>way we toast bread for breakfast as we use lasers,

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of course, and cats cats, I feel like it's a key. No,

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that's just how we toast our cats. Man. Let's say

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you cooked the food for the I want to I

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>want to officially distance myself from that joke, because nobody

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>should ever fire a laser at a cat. Well, you

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>can fire a laser near a cat to entertain it,

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of course, but I don't actually hit your your cat

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.719
<v Speaker 1>with a laser, please, oh man? All right, So now

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>we have our clock, right, that's the way a clock

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that uses light. Okay, so this is a thought experiment.

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>We're going to build a clock where we measure time

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>by measuring counting how many times it bounces off the

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>ceiling up and down. That's right, And it doesn't have

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to be a thought experiment. You've got mirrors, you've got lasers.

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, build your self o'clock. Um. But the interesting

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>thing is that what happens if you put that clock

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 1>on a spaceship right right on the train. Let's make

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>it even more inconvenient. Let's put this on a spaceship.

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>And so that's when things start to get interesting, right, Like,

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that's when we start to see how time slows down. Yeah,

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Or let's put the clock on the back of your cat, right,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and then see what happens when you're well, I guess

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you need the ceiling on the back of the cap.

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that doesn't. Actually, I feel like trying to get

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>a cat to do what you want is even more

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>difficult than getting on a spaceship. Einstein had no idea

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>how to get your cat to do what you want.

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You can master. He was the master of the cosmos,

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>but not of cats. All right. So we have a

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>clock where you measure time by counting how many times

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>it bounced off the ceiling on the floor, and we

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>stick it in a spaceship, and then we start going.

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>What happens then, right, So if you're in the spaceship,

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>nothing changes. It doesn't matter that you're going at half

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the speed of light or nine tenths of speed of light.

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>You're in the spaceship. You have no velocity relative to

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the clock. So things work the same way on the

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>spaceship for you as they did when you tested your

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>clock in your living room. As you just see the

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>beam go up and down, bounce up and down, and

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you count, and that's your time. That's right. And since

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you brought your cat along, it takes your cat the

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>same amount of time to eat his lunch in your

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>spaceship as it does at home, assuming he's not wearing

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a silly cat space suit. The interesting thing is that

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>when since you left me, Um, you left me on Earth,

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 1>you didn't invite me on your awesome spaceship. Thanks by

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the way, that would have been too inconvenient. And I'm

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>so heartbroken that I'm spying on you. Have a massive

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>telescope and I'm watching your cat eat lunch on a spaceship. Um.

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm looking at your clock, okay, and I'm wondering

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>how long does it take his cat to eat lunch, etcetera.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm watching your clock. Okay, you're trying to count

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>how many times it bounces off the ceiling to exactly.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>So I see the laser pulse go up, and I

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>see the laser pulse come down. Right. The problem is

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that I don't see the laser pulse going ten feet

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>up and ten feet down. I see the laser pulse

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>as going further because you're moving, which means the laser

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>pulse is not just going up and down. It's also

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>going sideways in the direction of your motion. So you

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>have the up and down and the sideways. So the

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>light for me, the laser is going in a diagonal right,

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>diagonal up hit the ceiling, and diagonal back down to

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>hit the floor, because you see it hit the ceiling

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and then on its way down, the spaceship is awesome moving,

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of moving diagonally to hit the floor

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>where it's going to be exactly. And so the mirrors

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and the clock move with the laser. Obviously they're all

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>going at the same speed sideways, and so the laser

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>beam hits the mirror on the top and it hits

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the receiver or whatever on the bottom. But I see

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you traveling further than you do, right, And this is

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>where the the absolute speed of light kicks in because

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you say, okay, travel ten feet, right. It traveled those

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>ten feet at the speed of light, So I know

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.479
<v Speaker 1>it takes ten seconds, but I see it traveled further. Right,

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Depending on how fast you're going, it could have traveled

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>like fourteen fifteen feet, right, because light always travels at

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the same speed. Right, I see it taking longer because

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gone further and it can go faster than the

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>speed of light. It can go faster than the speed

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of light. So I see your clock running slower. It

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>literally takes longer to count off seconds for you because

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the clock is built on the premise that it takes

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>light a certain time to go a certain distance. But

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>now that distance is further and the speed can't change

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>because it's going up and down. The light is going

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>up and down, and it's trying to go forward to exactly,

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>so it has to take longer exactly. Now, if you

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.239
<v Speaker 1>built this same kind of clock using something else, like

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>sound waves, right, you had a speaker, then this wouldn't

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>happen because the sound waves don't have that same property

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that they always travel at the speed at a certain

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>speed relative to observers. Right. Um, sound waves, as we

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>know from Doppler shifts, change their speed based on how

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>fast you're going. So if this is a sound wave,

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>if we use sound waves instead, then I would just

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>see the sound waves is traveling faster. But light can't

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>do that. Light always travels to the same speed no

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>matter who the observer is. So it slows your clock down.

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>So let's let's go back a step. Um. Okay, So

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna be in my spaceship counting how many

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>times it bounces off the ceiling, and for me, it's

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be like bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounds. But

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>for you, you're saying because it has to travel up

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and down and forward. You're going to count it slower,

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>right like for you, it's going to be bounds, bounds, bounds,

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>And so that's kind of the definition of time. Yeah, exactly, exactly,

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and any clock. And you're thinking, okay, well, that's just

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>one example, right, But the same argument holds for if

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you're going in another direction, right, you don't have just

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>be going sideways. If you're shooting in the direction of

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the mirror, right, then the light has longer to go

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>in one direction, but it can't make up the time.

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>And if you're going at an angle, the same thing happens.

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>And also for any clock. This is just one example.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 1>It's the clearest example because we've built it out of

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>something that only uses light, but the true the same

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>happens for every physical process, for any kind of clock. Okay.

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of the explanation is that time, the

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>definition of time is sort of tied to the speed

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>of light, and the universe has this weird rule about

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the speed of light, which is that nobody can never

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>see it move faster than the speed of light. That's right,

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>And the other important thing to understand is that your

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>definition of time and your definition of what happens depends

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>on how fast you are going. There is no absolute

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>sense of time. It's not like the universe has a

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>big clock out there and it's keeping track of what's

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>going on, and we're trying to make measures of measurements

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of it, and they're kind of sloppy sometimes when we

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>get them wrong, Like there is no absolute sense of time, right,

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>And you can do crazy experiments where you know, depending

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>on how fast people are going relative to experiment, they

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>can see the order of events changing, like I can

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>see A happen before B, and you can see B

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>happen before A because you're zooming in the other direction.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>And you might think, well, that's impossible either A happened

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>before B or BE happened before A. There is a

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>real truth, right, answer is there is no truth. The

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<v Speaker 1>truth is not out there. X Files was a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like we should get into that in

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<v Speaker 1>another episode. But I think the conclusion we're reaching here

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<v Speaker 1>is that basically there is no time. After all, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no time to talk about this anymore. And that's true. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there is time, but time is a different thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you than you thought it was, right, It's something weirder

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<v Speaker 1>and more malleable now in our safe, little slow worlds,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. You can pretend that time is the way

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<v Speaker 1>you thought it was right and you'll get by just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But in reality, if you want to understand the way

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<v Speaker 1>that that physics works at its deepest level, whether universe

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<v Speaker 1>is actually put together, what the real rules are, that

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out time is really different than you thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was. So that person who answered there is no

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<v Speaker 1>time sort of, I feel like she skipped ahead to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this count. She's probably a physicist visiting

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<v Speaker 1>from the future from Alpha centri. Is it her? Or

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<v Speaker 1>she's your cat evolved for thousands of years into a

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<v Speaker 1>future physicist and then traveled back in time to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>that message. I think she's your twin Danny. Maybe she is,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she is. Well, speaking of time, I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>out of time for this episode, so it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it up. Thank you everyone for your patients and

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<v Speaker 1>for listening, And if you have questions about how things

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<v Speaker 1>work in the universe or anything else crazy, please send

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully We made time move a little bit faster for you,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is you're doing, unless you were bored, which

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<v Speaker 1>is probably canceled out. If you still have a question

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