Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we are
Speaker 1: yet again offering to donate an ACL to a player
Speaker 1: in need.
Speaker 2: Slute, just hit me up. What's mine is yours? It's Tuesday,
Speaker 2: June tenth, and on today's show.
Speaker 1: It's time for another group chat with two very funny folks,
Speaker 1: social media influencer coach Jackie, an actor improviser, and New
Speaker 1: York liberty diehard Shannon O'Neill. Coach Jackie was recently a
Speaker 1: guest monologist at Shannon's weekly rat.
Speaker 2: Scraps show in NYC.
Speaker 1: They joined me to talk about creating content, the intersections
Speaker 1: between women in comedy and women in sports, and the
Speaker 1: leagues that provide the most laughs. Plus a welcome return,
Speaker 1: painting lines to grow the game, and somersaulting your way
Speaker 1: to victory. It's all coming up right after this welcome
Speaker 1: Max Slices. Here's what you need to know today. Let's
Speaker 1: start with the WNBA. On Monday, the league announced a
Speaker 1: new initiative dubbed Line Them Up, which connects local communities
Speaker 1: to women's professional hoops by painting WNBA three point lines
Speaker 1: at parks around the country. Quote designed to foster more
Speaker 1: inclusive spaces and inspire girls and women to bring their
Speaker 1: games to the park. The campaign highlights the league's deep
Speaker 1: commitment to building community, visibility.
Speaker 2: And representation in public spaces. End quote.
Speaker 1: I also just love that if you think you can
Speaker 1: hit a WNBA three, not to mention a logo three
Speaker 1: like some of the players Sabrina, Caitlin, etc. You'll actually
Speaker 1: be able to test that out. I get the feeling
Speaker 1: some of y'all are going to realize it's a lot
Speaker 1: farther away than you'd think. In addition to painting the lines,
Speaker 1: the league will also be donating money to participating park courts.
Speaker 1: The initiative is starting with six parks in New York,
Speaker 1: but is going to expand to others across the country,
Speaker 1: and they're taking suggestions. So if you know or represent
Speaker 1: a park that would be interested in adding a WNBA
Speaker 1: three point line, check out the link in the show
Speaker 1: notes more WNBA. We got two games tonight. First up,
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Dream hosts the Indiana Fever at seven thirty
Speaker 1: pm Eastern. Ahead of that contest, Fever coach Stephanie White
Speaker 1: gave an update on Caitlin Clark, who's been out for
Speaker 1: two weeks with a quad strain. Per White, Clark will
Speaker 1: miss this game too, but is quote ready to start
Speaker 1: ramping back up. Then at eight pm, the Chicago Sky
Speaker 1: are traveling to the New York Liberties, So get out
Speaker 1: that second screen you can watch both. It's the Sky's
Speaker 1: first contest since losing Courtney Vanderslute to a season ending
Speaker 1: ACL injury to the NWSL, where Gotham and US National
Speaker 1: team midfielder Rose Levell played her first match in six
Speaker 1: months over the weekend, subbing into Gotham's two to one
Speaker 1: loss to the Kansas City Current in the seventy fourth
Speaker 1: minute on Saturday. Lavell had been forced to sit out
Speaker 1: the start of the season after ankle surgery last December.
Speaker 1: Lavell said that the break from playing helped her find
Speaker 1: some silver linings, saying, quote, learning how to be a
Speaker 1: good teammate when I can't be on the field with them,
Speaker 1: staying present, still having a voice, and helping people where
Speaker 1: I can. Being out for so long really forced me
Speaker 1: to do that tenfold end quote. Gotham currently sits in
Speaker 1: tenth in the NWSL standing. I'm sure they're hoping Roses
Speaker 1: return lights a spark for the.
Speaker 2: Team to tennis.
Speaker 1: We told you last week about French tennis player Los
Speaker 1: Boison's Cinderella run at Roland Garros, while on Monday, the
Speaker 1: Breakthrough Star saw that run payoff. Ranked three hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty first in the world entering the tournament, Boisson received
Speaker 1: a wildcard entry and made it all the way to
Speaker 1: the semi finals, helping her climb two hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: six spots. The twenty two year old now sits at
Speaker 1: a career high sixty fifth on the WTA rankings list. Meantime,
Speaker 1: world number two Coco Goff is gaining on number one
Speaker 1: Arena Sablenka, whose lead diminished slightly after golf won the
Speaker 1: French Open. Finally, an amateur to pro turnaround the likes
Speaker 1: of which we usually see in hoops when players go
Speaker 1: from March Madness to Draft night in the blink of
Speaker 1: an eye. This time it's happening in softball. On Monday,
Speaker 1: Athletes Unlimited Softball announced that former Oklahoma pitcher Sam Landry
Speaker 1: was set to make her debut with the Volts, just
Speaker 1: one week after Landry's Sooners lost to Texas Tech in
Speaker 1: the semi finals of the Women's College World Series. In fact,
Speaker 1: by the time you slices. Hear this, Landry likely will
Speaker 1: have pitched in her first game. We'll link to the
Speaker 1: AUSL website in the show notes so you can see
Speaker 1: how she fared if she did indeed make her pro debut.
Speaker 1: Landry was selected by the Voltsa as the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick in the AUSL College Draft, but wasn't able
Speaker 1: to officially sign her pro contract until concluding her college
Speaker 1: career last week. There's also more AUSL tonight with the
Speaker 1: Talons and Bandits playing in Rosemont, Illinois again. That game
Speaker 1: is at eight pm Eastern on ESPN two. All Right, slices,
Speaker 1: we got an important Pride Month times Hoops and Gay
Speaker 1: Shit discovery. We just learned that Indiana Fever head coach
Speaker 1: Stephanie White and ESPN NBA sideline reporter Lisa Salters are
Speaker 1: a hoops power couple.
Speaker 2: Where were we on this story? How come none of
Speaker 2: y'all clute us in? What a duo? Unbelievable?
Speaker 1: We are always happy to add to our hoops and
Speaker 1: gayshit dossier. And a top coach and a longtime sideline
Speaker 1: reporter chef's kiss so good. It's worth noting that the
Speaker 1: reason their relationship caught our attention is not great. It's
Speaker 1: because both had to miss work this week. White was
Speaker 1: away from the fever for Saturdays, went over the Chicago
Speaker 1: Sky at the United Center, and Salters missed Game two
Speaker 1: of the NBA Finals on Sunday. According to Sunday Night's
Speaker 1: ABC broadcast, Salter's mother is dealing with the health issue,
Speaker 1: so we're sending both women and their families our best.
Speaker 1: We also got to take a moment to remind you
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Speaker 1: the age old question is she gay or does she
Speaker 1: just coach women's basketball? Jackie and Shannon upnext, stick around.
Speaker 1: It's time for another group chat where we take the
Speaker 1: tea from the text and bring it to the airwaves.
Speaker 1: We got two funny ladies with us joining us now.
Speaker 1: She's a social media superstar with over six hundred thousand
Speaker 1: followers on TikTok alone, creator of content centered around women's sports.
Speaker 1: She was recently named one of Adweek's most Powerful Women
Speaker 1: in Sports. She's an Aquarius who celebrates birthday weeks, not days,
Speaker 1: loves Broadway shows almost as much as women's sports. And
Speaker 1: we'll tell you if someone's gay or just a women's
Speaker 1: basketball coach, it's coach Jackie High coach.
Speaker 3: Hello. The Aquarius is a deep cut. I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: Research love that somebody's got a substack that I dove
Speaker 1: into joining her. She's an American comedian, actor, writer and director,
Speaker 1: a longtime improv teacher, and former artistic director at the
Speaker 1: Upright Citizens Brigade. She has a long list of TV
Speaker 1: appearances including Broad City, Difficul People, High Maintenance, and My
Speaker 1: Favorite The Other Two. Her website bio concludes with quote,
Speaker 1: if you are reading this and we meet one day.
Speaker 1: I think that will be cool unless you are my murderer.
Speaker 1: It's Shannon O'Neill.
Speaker 4: Hi, Shannon, I'm an American comedian. I've never heard.
Speaker 2: I guess the American comedian.
Speaker 5: American is very funny to put at the front of that.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, you know what, I don't want any
Speaker 1: people who are you afraid of foreigners to leave immediately.
Speaker 2: That's true, true, Jackie. Most important question. First, are you
Speaker 2: actually a coach?
Speaker 3: I am not. I'm not. I work with children and
Speaker 3: I was doing a I was a coach for a
Speaker 3: day and they were all calling me coach, and I
Speaker 3: was like, this makes me feel like my gender envy
Speaker 3: of like being a coach is my gender. It feels
Speaker 3: right because usually kids call you miss Jackie, and miss
Speaker 3: Jackie is not me. So I was like, coach perfect.
Speaker 3: I made a video about how it's a gender hack.
Speaker 3: It's like captain or chef coach, and then everyone was like,
Speaker 3: we're gonna call you coach. I like to make it clear,
Speaker 3: I didn't name it myself, and then people sort of
Speaker 3: call me. I love a brand. I changed it so
Speaker 3: now I'm a life coach, folks.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with that.
Speaker 1: I've never really thought about that, but yeah, it's sort
Speaker 1: of like, I mean, people may assume that a coach
Speaker 1: is a dude a lot of the time, but it's
Speaker 1: not inherent. We aren't quite at the stage where we're
Speaker 1: making jokes like the doctor was a woman, right right,
Speaker 1: We're not quite there with coaching.
Speaker 2: So I love that. What's your sports background, Jackie.
Speaker 3: So Im a soccer person. I grew up playing soccer.
Speaker 3: I was a military kid, so I lived in Germany.
Speaker 3: I was on an all boys German soccer team, and
Speaker 3: that was like really fundamental to who I am. I
Speaker 3: was a very good twelve year old because of that,
Speaker 3: and then came back to the States kind of plateaued
Speaker 3: as like a very good twelve year old up until
Speaker 3: high school tore me ACL classic whatever. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 3: play in college anyway, but because of that, I couldn't
Speaker 3: do any like lateral movements. So I joined the club
Speaker 3: rowing team at LSU and I wrote in a swamp
Speaker 3: for four years. Three years. Actually, yeah, and that's my
Speaker 3: background sports. I also played volleyball. I did one basketball
Speaker 3: try out. Too much going back and forth for me.
Speaker 2: So I did not come back. Okay, multiple follow ups.
Speaker 1: One your video about what you learned from being on
Speaker 1: that boys youth team.
Speaker 2: That you originally wanted to quit because they were mean
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: It's great and I highly recommend everybody watch it on
Speaker 1: your TikTok. And secondarily, any creatures in the swamp. It
Speaker 1: feels like you'd be rowing with like gators and shit.
Speaker 3: Gators for sure. Yep, absolutely, and it's scary. I that
Speaker 3: was the part that was hard for me. It was
Speaker 3: I went to school Pete Covid, so the rowing team
Speaker 3: was like one of the only would have joined the
Speaker 3: soccer team. Rawing team was just the only one that
Speaker 3: was still going. And I was like, this is what
Speaker 3: I'm doing to make friends. I'm rowing in a swamp
Speaker 3: where there are actually caters and there we would see
Speaker 3: them and you just don't want to. I mean, you
Speaker 3: don't crash often when you're growing, but when you're a
Speaker 3: novice and you're learning, it's not a thing that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: So I was definitely very marrid afraid.
Speaker 2: But you know, you power through and you had a weapon.
Speaker 3: The or it's more the bacteria in the LSU campus
Speaker 3: lake that we were more afraid.
Speaker 1: Of so fair Fair Shannon, you got any sports ties
Speaker 1: other than your heavy liberty fandom.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: I was a three sport athlete growing up. I did soccer, basketball,
Speaker 5: and lacrosse, but basketball is always my main main love.
Speaker 4: Lacrosse.
Speaker 5: Actually, interestingly enough, we had a freshman lacrosse team that
Speaker 5: the boys got to join, not the other way around,
Speaker 5: because it was there was no boys lacrosse team yet
Speaker 5: and it was coming maybe like the next year.
Speaker 4: So we had, yeah, a couple of.
Speaker 5: Freshmen boys and I had to were more than more
Speaker 5: than a couple, and I had to I was a
Speaker 5: goalie and I had to give up playing goalie sometimes
Speaker 5: the boys could play.
Speaker 2: That's so interesting.
Speaker 1: I've heard that mostly for field hockey in the States
Speaker 1: because it tends to be a women's sport, but especially Yeah,
Speaker 1: foreign born guys who come over and have and had
Speaker 1: played in their previous country that want to play end
Speaker 1: up getting on the women's teams.
Speaker 2: How was that for you?
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad to hear that you survived playing
Speaker 1: alongside boys and uh, you made it.
Speaker 2: You made it out what it's hair, I know.
Speaker 4: I mean, they barely it was.
Speaker 5: It was interesting because some teams would say like, no,
Speaker 5: we don't want to play against them, and I feel
Speaker 5: like maybe we made.
Speaker 4: Them wear the kilts.
Speaker 5: Okay, I have to match because we did have kilts,
Speaker 5: and I think we were like, you have to wear
Speaker 5: the same uniform. So I remember that actually being pretty
Speaker 5: cool and pretty chill. There wasn't like like we were
Speaker 5: all we all rolled with it, and I just was like, Oh,
Speaker 5: I guess that's what you do.
Speaker 4: And then you know, things were a lot.
Speaker 2: You know, that's interesting for both of you.
Speaker 1: Some of your formative sports experiences as youths were on
Speaker 1: co ed teams and just like getting past that initial
Speaker 1: sort of awkwardness and then just being like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just sports. And we do this all the time
Speaker 1: in gym class and we do this all the time
Speaker 1: post collegiately and innermurals and like literally almost everywhere and
Speaker 1: it works out great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she had.
Speaker 1: And you're still performing regularly in improv shows. And I
Speaker 1: wonder if you've found it easier of late to include
Speaker 1: women's sports references and content, knowing that hopefully more of
Speaker 1: the audience gets those references.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's and it's very fun to put
Speaker 5: people on the spot. And be like, I mean sometimes
Speaker 5: I'd be just like Actually one time I was like
Speaker 5: name five I think I said, like, name five WNBA
Speaker 5: players and they're like uh And I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: name five women and they're like, So it is very
Speaker 5: it's very fun, and some are like yeah, the audiences
Speaker 5: are hipped to it. They know what we're talking about,
Speaker 5: and it's fun to catch some of the people on stage,
Speaker 5: mostly the male identifying folks that I get to. You know,
Speaker 5: they do their Star Wars references. I do my WNB references.
Speaker 1: Do you ever get taken to task by fellow improvisers
Speaker 1: for those references? Do they ever after the show say, hey,
Speaker 1: cut it out the Liberty roster making every single sketch.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's good. That's nevern where it's.
Speaker 5: A very playful and improvs breaks. It's like team sport,
Speaker 5: which is why I love it so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was there, they did a whole thing
Speaker 3: about rugby scrums that was very funny and like no
Speaker 3: one really knew what it was, Like Shannon just started
Speaker 3: it and no one really got it. Yeah, and so
Speaker 3: it just became this ridiculous thing of people chanting scrum, scrum, scrum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have met, because producer Alex was actually
Speaker 1: there and watched Coach Jackie serve as the monologist for
Speaker 1: an improv show at one of Shannon's shows a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago. A monologue that Alex said did have a
Speaker 1: great recap of the opening weekend of Women's Elite Rugby
Speaker 1: was that Coach Jackie's intentional part, and then later the
Speaker 1: scrum ensued from the improv that it inspired.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's a show. Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: called Rat Scraps. It's on Sundays.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was like, I gotta get Coach Jackie.
Speaker 5: And my producer reached out and Jackie was just like
Speaker 5: hell yeah, and I was like this is gonna be great.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: And as soon as Jackie was talking about rugby and
Speaker 5: stuff and I know a little bit of it, not
Speaker 5: like a whole up, but you know, from like Alona
Speaker 5: mar and like that kind of like learning about that way,
Speaker 5: so I was able to say it and I knew
Speaker 5: what a scrum was, and I knew nobody else did,
Speaker 5: and it's just like and you just you just yes, yeah,
Speaker 5: just go with it. So I'm not going to call
Speaker 5: them out. It was just like, yeah, it was very fun.
Speaker 3: That was the best for me because I was like
Speaker 3: a huge theater kid growing up, and I was familiar
Speaker 3: with Shannon of course, and like also with the show,
Speaker 3: and so I never get emails that are about any
Speaker 3: of like the like theater kid improv side of me.
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh my god, this is perfect,
Speaker 3: Like I was so stoked to be part of it.
Speaker 1: I got a call from Gilda's Club here in Chicago,
Speaker 1: which is a cancer based org obviously inspired by Gilda Radner.
Speaker 1: And this was years ago, and I'll I miss my
Speaker 1: improv days all the time. I did the whole Second
Speaker 1: City Conservatory out in LA and that's originally what I
Speaker 1: moved to LA for was comedy stuff. And they called
Speaker 1: and they were like, we know this is a big ass,
Speaker 1: but would you be willing to come for like our
Speaker 1: big charity event and be on stage to set up
Speaker 1: some of that. I'm like, you're gonna have to tell
Speaker 1: me to shut the frow, like you're going to have
Speaker 1: other people up there that are like barely involved and
Speaker 1: that I'm just gonna insert myself into your troop, which
Speaker 1: I didn't do. But it was very hard not to
Speaker 1: because same with you. Jackie was like, this is the
Speaker 1: best email ever. I wish everyone was just asking me
Speaker 1: to do this all the time. Jackie, you want to
Speaker 1: talk about your content because you clearly you know most
Speaker 1: of the people clicking and watching your stuff are in
Speaker 1: for women's sports content. They want to follow you, and
Speaker 1: they want to learn about it. Have you changed the
Speaker 1: course of your content over the couple years of being
Speaker 1: a creator based on knowing that there's more knowledge out
Speaker 1: there or do you still sort of trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to cater to folks that are still learning
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 3: I always say that if I'm making a video, I
Speaker 3: want to have one fact for the super fan and
Speaker 3: one fact for the person who knows nothing. So I
Speaker 3: do I try and add something in there for somebody
Speaker 3: who's like I think about if I was watching a
Speaker 3: soccer video, what I would want someone to drop that
Speaker 3: I would know that they really knew what they were
Speaker 3: talking about. So I'll reach out to athletes or other
Speaker 3: people to try and find that insider piece. And then
Speaker 3: I always explain because yes, they want women's sports content,
Speaker 3: but also people aren't really following anymore. They're just being
Speaker 3: served up with the algorithm thinks they want, And so
Speaker 3: I have to always assume that the person watching knows nothing,
Speaker 3: but also hate to watch those videos where it's like,
Speaker 3: here's the like I have to do, like the history
Speaker 3: of women's sports starting, and like you know, where do
Speaker 3: you again with some of this stuff? So it's a
Speaker 3: balance for sure.
Speaker 1: That's how we feel on this show. It's like we
Speaker 1: want to make sure we're bringing everyone along, and the
Speaker 1: easiest way to do that is to use full names,
Speaker 1: full team names. Occasionally put the league in because it
Speaker 1: doesn't really take away from the experience for the expert,
Speaker 1: the same way that like.
Speaker 2: Let's start with what's a basketball? Right? Like that you're out.
Speaker 1: But if you just include enough context clues, you could
Speaker 1: usually help new people along in ways that they just
Speaker 1: aren't served. If you're like so D D and TT
Speaker 1: and number two and why why and you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: already I have no idea what.
Speaker 2: You're talking about.
Speaker 3: Also, that's like a like a peacocking thing for men,
Speaker 3: Like in men's sports, they love to not include any information,
Speaker 3: sort of as like a good seeping thing, and they're like,
Speaker 3: we don't get it. It's not for you, and it's like,
Speaker 3: that's not women's sports if you don't get it, it
Speaker 3: is for you, and we want you to get it,
Speaker 3: and we don't care if you don't. And I always
Speaker 3: have to stop myself. I'm like PTERWHL ANDWSL and I'm like,
Speaker 3: wait a second, people don't know what that means. And
Speaker 3: I think it's important to make it as inclusive as possible.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually gave a podcast presentation a couple months ago,
Speaker 1: and that was one of my big points, was like,
Speaker 1: you're not really impressing anybody if you talk about stuff
Speaker 1: that other people don't understand or act like you're all insidery.
Speaker 1: What you're doing is just limiting the amount of people
Speaker 1: that can listen and enjoy.
Speaker 2: What you're talking about.
Speaker 1: If you want to tell them something insidery, then bring
Speaker 1: them along with you and give them the context to
Speaker 1: understand how you got that unique report or that exclusive
Speaker 1: but just talking about things in a way that reveals
Speaker 1: that you don't have to use full names because you're
Speaker 1: so tight with everybody, you're really not doing what you
Speaker 1: think you're doing for the people that you're trying to
Speaker 1: get to listen. Jackie, do you make enough money as
Speaker 1: a content creator to just focus on your social media
Speaker 1: work or do you have other mysterious jobs.
Speaker 3: I have a mysterious job, but I do make enough money.
Speaker 3: You know, I think I'm not necessarily one hundred percent
Speaker 3: secure where it's consistent in that, like I would stop
Speaker 3: having my job job. I also love my job job,
Speaker 3: but I yeah, it's it's become a full time job
Speaker 3: within itself for sure.
Speaker 2: Do you ever talk about your job job or is
Speaker 2: it a mystery?
Speaker 3: It's a mystery. We'll keep it a mystery.
Speaker 4: Now, are you smart, Jackie?
Speaker 5: Are you putting that money away in an ira A
Speaker 5: four oh one k?
Speaker 4: Because now's the time.
Speaker 3: I'm it's it's invested. It's invested.
Speaker 4: Okay, you gotta start start young.
Speaker 2: In what doge coin?
Speaker 1: It's invested as like Aaron Rodgers saying I'm immunized.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need more specifics than that.
Speaker 3: It's in whatever, the general, Like I truly don't know
Speaker 3: how it all works. It's in whatever is the most general, specific,
Speaker 3: diversified question mark kind of great.
Speaker 1: So you have some sort of financial advisor or expert
Speaker 1: that's helping you put your money where it should be
Speaker 1: to grow.
Speaker 3: I'm finding that person. I'm finding that person. I didn't
Speaker 3: know how taxes would be terrible. So that was really
Speaker 3: a that was a big one. And now we're really
Speaker 3: trying to find a planner. I'm not a planner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I should. I should. I would recommend you
Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, get somebody else. Yeah, yeah, you're.
Speaker 4: So, you're so ahead of the game if you do
Speaker 4: start doing it. Now.
Speaker 5: I have friends that are forty and do not have
Speaker 5: a savings and I'm like, what are you doing? And
Speaker 5: so you got it. Anyway, this is a sports podcast.
Speaker 1: You have balanced that social media brings you fame and fortune,
Speaker 1: but also everything else that brings. Do you have tips
Speaker 1: for surviving online? Because you are it is a job,
Speaker 1: which means you can't just decide I'm over this and leave.
Speaker 3: Wait no, yeah, I mean it's I think for me,
Speaker 3: when I started posting, I was posting ten videos a day,
Speaker 3: like I was really really into it, and then I
Speaker 3: kind of plateaued and I just posted one video a day,
Speaker 3: and you never know, like I went viral a lot,
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't retain followers a lot. And so for me,
Speaker 3: I always think like like series like my Isshik series
Speaker 3: is like a way that people want to come back
Speaker 3: for more. And it's always about people coming back for more,
Speaker 3: and that's how you, I guess, survive online. And if
Speaker 3: the questions more about like how do you deal with
Speaker 3: hate and stuff, I don't know, it's hard. It's just
Speaker 3: you just got to have your own support system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was more about that, But I
Speaker 1: want to talk about the issue. Gegu it's so good
Speaker 1: but really quick. I just I think, I mean, is
Speaker 1: it natural then? Because I find for me personally when
Speaker 1: people ask me about like clapping back on social media,
Speaker 1: which I used to do a lot more and now
Speaker 1: I just kind of block and don't even worry about
Speaker 1: it because half the time it's like bots or people
Speaker 1: being paid to get engagement. But back in the day,
Speaker 1: I felt like, as a straight cis like physically able
Speaker 1: person who has a real tough, thick skin. I wanted
Speaker 1: to get out in front and take the slings and
Speaker 1: arrows and show other people that I was getting it
Speaker 1: and that you can clap back or you can be
Speaker 1: kind back, which sometimes I was. I would just say, hey,
Speaker 1: seems like you might be going through something, like I
Speaker 1: hope it gets better.
Speaker 2: This is kind of a weird thing to send a stranger.
Speaker 2: It's kind of mean.
Speaker 1: And when people ask me about it, I would say,
Speaker 1: it's sort of just natural for me. So is it
Speaker 1: of natural for you to be able to balance whatever
Speaker 1: hatred or threats or whatever.
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't.
Speaker 1: Get that the way that a woman in like traditional
Speaker 1: sports media does.
Speaker 3: No I get it. I I think that it's not natural.
Speaker 3: It's unnatural just as a as a general thing that happens.
Speaker 3: No one should be taking in that much of good
Speaker 3: or bad. I think that that's why it becomes unhealthy.
Speaker 3: Is you really thrive on the good stuff, and if
Speaker 3: you devalue all of it, then none of it matters,
Speaker 3: and then what's you know, what's driving you? But for me,
Speaker 3: I was actually just talking to some middle schoolers about
Speaker 3: making videos and they were asking me how do you
Speaker 3: deal with feedback? And one of the teachers said, and
Speaker 3: I actually I didn't have a good answer. I was like,
Speaker 3: it's really hard and I'm struggling. And one of the
Speaker 3: teachers said, sometimes when you you really have to say something,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what anyone says, because you know that
Speaker 3: you have to say it. And that I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's me. Like, I believe everything I say when I
Speaker 3: post it online, especially now with having a bigger following.
Speaker 3: I think really hard about what I say, and I
Speaker 3: say it and I mean it. I mean everything I say,
Speaker 3: and so that is how I'm able to deal with it.
Speaker 3: I think to myself, well, I didn't misspeak, and that
Speaker 3: person disagrees with me, and you, like you said, like,
Speaker 3: I am so privileged. And so if I'm dealing with
Speaker 3: a week of people saying really awful things, that's okay
Speaker 3: because the people I was sticking up for and whatever.
Speaker 4: I said deal with it.
Speaker 3: Just they can't press that's their whole life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's how I felt, especially when most of
Speaker 1: my hatred would usually come when I was talking about
Speaker 1: domestic violence, sexual assault, male female dynamic stories and sports,
Speaker 1: and so I'd always be like, they're just mad that
Speaker 1: I'm bringing something to light that they would rather we
Speaker 1: pretend didn't exist. And I'm okay with being attacked for
Speaker 1: that if it means that I'm doing the stories that
Speaker 1: need to be heard. Shannon, I feel like it's adjacent
Speaker 1: to what we just talked about. With your career, you're
Speaker 1: going to have these like big ups where suddenly you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm on Broad City, Like, I guess
Speaker 1: this is it. I'm real famous now and forever and ever.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be just doing the best things. And
Speaker 1: then the next week it's like, Okay, didn't get that
Speaker 1: audition or didn't get that callback. How do you handle
Speaker 1: the sort of ups and downs and the fact that
Speaker 1: you're job is entirely subjective. You could crush it and
Speaker 1: the person could be like, ap, she reminds me of
Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend, and now I'm out.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. It took a lot of learning that.
Speaker 5: I mean when you when I was first going on auditions,
Speaker 5: I would be waiting by the phone, you know, checking
Speaker 5: my email that I get it.
Speaker 4: I get it, And then you finally get to a point.
Speaker 5: Where it's like you just learn, like I auditioned and
Speaker 5: now I'm moving on with my day. I just like,
Speaker 5: it's just like a bunch of job interviews and if
Speaker 5: I get chosen, I get you know, then I get chosen,
Speaker 5: and I'm but I'm very lucky in that I get
Speaker 5: to perform a lot. So I might go on audition
Speaker 5: and like maybe not get something that I really wanted,
Speaker 5: But then you know, on a Sunday, on a Friday,
Speaker 5: I get to walk into a theater and perform pre.
Speaker 4: Pandemic consistent sold out shows.
Speaker 5: We're still working on the post pandemic comeback, but I
Speaker 5: would you know, but still audiences that you know, paid
Speaker 5: for a ticket and I get to make them laugh.
Speaker 5: And that's like then I get like, I really like,
Speaker 5: that's how I dopamine. You have a little validation that like,
Speaker 5: oh no, okay, you are You're funny, you're talented, you
Speaker 5: got this, And that's just and that's why I feel
Speaker 5: so so lucky that I get to do that. There's
Speaker 5: like a lot of actors that are going out and
Speaker 5: auditioning and they don't get to like still perform that week.
Speaker 5: I get to perform every week, and I know that
Speaker 5: that is like, I'm so lucky.
Speaker 4: There's no wood in this room, but I'll not I'd.
Speaker 1: Not uh for those who might be nearby where you
Speaker 1: are and can help out with that. Not selling out
Speaker 1: every single week, where are they going to get tickets
Speaker 1: and see you?
Speaker 4: Oh you?
Speaker 5: So Every Sunday is at a theater called Caveat.
Speaker 4: It's on the Lower East Side. The show is called
Speaker 4: Rat four A's Scraps. That's the one that Jackie did.
Speaker 5: You can also stream it online, so if you can't
Speaker 5: make it into the city, you can watch it. So
Speaker 5: if you just go to ratscraps dot com or Caveat
Speaker 5: which is spelled as Caveat just look up Caveat Theater
Speaker 5: in New York City.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a.
Speaker 5: Lot of awesome performing that you have probably seen on
Speaker 5: your your TV.
Speaker 1: Is the are the four a's in rat a nod
Speaker 1: to the multiple s's in Askat?
Speaker 5: They are because UCB shut down in New York from
Speaker 5: the pandemic and it was like completely gone, and I
Speaker 5: was like, it's never coming back. So I started I
Speaker 5: used to run Askat and produce and run and host Askat.
Speaker 5: So I started a new show as an homage to
Speaker 5: Rat Scraps.
Speaker 1: Rat Scraps. I love it and it has a like
Speaker 1: similar sound to it. Askat, for those who don't know,
Speaker 1: is ucb's sort of signature flag show show, which.
Speaker 5: Is which is back now. So UCB is back.
Speaker 4: So now there's like this.
Speaker 2: Now there's an ASCAT and a rat Scraps.
Speaker 5: An ass Cat on Fridays and Saturdays, and a rat
Speaker 5: Scraps on SuDS and I.
Speaker 4: Do them all, so.
Speaker 2: I love it. Jackie.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about your most famous series that
Speaker 1: you mentioned.
Speaker 2: Are you gay or do you just coach women's basketball?
Speaker 1: For viewers that haven't seen this series, can you summarize it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I can try. I can try. Basically, it's I
Speaker 3: always say, like how it started was I was watching
Speaker 3: I was mentioned I went to LSU. So it was
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, pretty good year for us. I was
Speaker 3: watching March Badness with my roommate and we were I
Speaker 3: think it was an Iowa game. We were looking at
Speaker 3: Lisa Bluter. We were like, what do you think what's
Speaker 3: going on there? Like do we think that she's gay
Speaker 3: or not? We really did what the videos are now,
Speaker 3: which is when I go through and I kind of say,
Speaker 3: all the hair is kind of in between gay and
Speaker 3: what a most the mom cut that everyone has, and
Speaker 3: oh the shoes those are gay, and the pants they
Speaker 3: would be gay if they didn't if they had belt loops.
Speaker 3: They don't know belt loops, so they're straight. And we
Speaker 3: were having that conversation and so I made a video
Speaker 3: and the video didn't really go all that viral. When
Speaker 3: I made the first one and I just kind of
Speaker 3: kept doing it, and I think probably the Kim Wulky
Speaker 3: one was you know, you can't give her any credit
Speaker 3: for anything, but the Kim Wulky one was the first
Speaker 3: one that went like really really.
Speaker 2: Viral and the Mulky effect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: I remember seeing the blued one that might have been
Speaker 2: the first one. I said, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I saw one years ago and sent it to a
Speaker 1: big group chat of lesbians. I have a fair amount
Speaker 1: of lesbian friends where I'm just like the straight lady
Speaker 1: who hangs out with them, and they were dying laughing
Speaker 1: about it, and it made me realize that there are
Speaker 1: so many women, particularly women's basketball, but women coaching in
Speaker 1: general and women's sports in general where they really are
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. There's a fine line between a
Speaker 1: sporty straight gal and a lesbian.
Speaker 3: It's incredibly fine, and it's that's what makes it fun.
Speaker 3: It's like, it's the thing that I always say. It's
Speaker 3: people say, oh, you're stereotyping this or that, Like no,
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know. It's very clear that I'll say, oh,
Speaker 3: this is gay, or I a'll say like the way
Speaker 3: she's holding her phone is gay. That's ridiculous. I just
Speaker 3: made it.
Speaker 2: Up just being cunny.
Speaker 3: It's funny. And also that's like it also is like
Speaker 3: a kind of a point to like how I go
Speaker 3: about the world as a lesbian, because it is how
Speaker 3: I see the world. Kind of I just don't think
Speaker 3: about it, but I that is what I do write
Speaker 3: Like I'm looking around, I'm like, oh, I want that
Speaker 3: ring up keys.
Speaker 1: That's fair too, because if you're trying to find people
Speaker 1: to hit on, you're trying to get the cues from
Speaker 1: various things. And I remember my sister played women's professional
Speaker 1: tackle football and it was years ago, and she was
Speaker 1: asking her teammates when they would go out to the
Speaker 1: gay bars, like is everyone gonna know I'm straight?
Speaker 2: Or are they going to hit on me? Like how
Speaker 2: are they?
Speaker 1: And they're like, don't worry, shoes, purse, And that was
Speaker 1: like they're two rules, as you could tell. And then
Speaker 1: my friend Ali always says, just check the fingernails, but
Speaker 1: of course you could be a pillow princess and you
Speaker 1: just never know. But that's, you know, one good indicator,
Speaker 1: but there's all those different things when you're making your videos.
Speaker 1: How did you decide how many of them you wanted
Speaker 1: to be something you actually might look at to decide
Speaker 1: if someone's gay, and how many you wanted to be ridiculous,
Speaker 1: like oh, holding her phone straight.
Speaker 3: I think it's about half. There's a lot of it
Speaker 3: where I will just get all the pictures to start
Speaker 3: and when I look at the picture, if I genuinely
Speaker 3: look at it and think, oh, that's something that I
Speaker 3: think is something lesbians do, or like I love to
Speaker 3: be like that's something that a twenty sixteen lesbian would
Speaker 3: do and not necessarily lesbian, or like the little details, Wow, okay,
Speaker 3: best is gay, belt is gay. Hands here feel straight,
Speaker 3: that watch is gay, the hair is straight for now.
Speaker 3: But if it's consistently just like that, that's gay.
Speaker 1: And then in my head I'm like, ooh, okay, let
Speaker 1: me think about it. And then I'm like, she's just
Speaker 1: making a joke.
Speaker 2: Sarah, like you don't have to try to analyze weather.
Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen had like a peak moment for that.
Speaker 3: Right exactly. But it's about half. And it's more so
Speaker 3: that if I look at a picture and I can't
Speaker 3: find anything, then I'll be like, Okay, her eyebrows raised
Speaker 3: in a gay way, like it's it's just to make it,
Speaker 3: you know, I have to add that in there. So
Speaker 3: it's not like people will message me and they'll say, Jackie,
Speaker 3: you have to find out if this person's gay, please
Speaker 3: do a video on her. And I'm like, I don't
Speaker 3: decipher it. I'm not actually investigating. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: You're not like that geolocator guy who like looks at
Speaker 1: a photo when he's like, oh, this is in Maine,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, Like, Yeah, that's an
Speaker 1: entire career and gets paid a lot to do that.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not like using my like spidy sense.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna google it.
Speaker 5: It could be a good cameo thing you could do,
Speaker 5: have have people submit a photo their friends I've done.
Speaker 2: Are you on a cameo?
Speaker 3: I was, well, I don't do it anymore because it
Speaker 3: was just so difficult because you can't send photos via
Speaker 3: cameo cameo so they would like instant to me, and
Speaker 3: it was like I felt bad charging a lot, but
Speaker 3: it was a lot of work. It was just a
Speaker 3: whole kind of a mess. But that's something I have
Speaker 3: done before, and I mean after the series went viral.
Speaker 3: I went out on the street with a let me
Speaker 3: guess your sexuality sign and I just did it on it.
Speaker 3: They all campus.
Speaker 1: I feel like there are some progressive leagues that would
Speaker 1: be wise to have you come to training camp and
Speaker 1: do a series of.
Speaker 2: The team because we did just see the stud buds.
Speaker 1: Have you know some conversations with teammates about like how
Speaker 1: they knew they were straight and things like that, so
Speaker 1: we could we could do a coach Jackie.
Speaker 2: Version of that.
Speaker 1: Have you heard feedback from anyone that didn't like being
Speaker 1: a part of your little game and or were offended
Speaker 1: that you thought anything about them was gay or straight?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I made a video on Sabrina Enescua and she she
Speaker 3: did respond in the comments and she said, I think
Speaker 3: something along the lines of like I'm not gay, bro,
Speaker 3: like what makes my shoes gay?
Speaker 2: And interesting?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I at the time, I was just kind
Speaker 3: of like, oh, that's a little bit strange. I would
Speaker 3: have thought that she would be chill with it. I
Speaker 3: to be fair at the end, obviously, I always say
Speaker 3: the answer. So like she was like, I'm not gay.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I didn't say you were. I said that
Speaker 3: you're I mean I called like her signature shoes gay,
Speaker 3: which I think that's hilarious because if someone's wearing those recreationally, yeah,
Speaker 3: my gods, come on. I ended the video with her
Speaker 3: proposal like a picture of her then fiance, and I
Speaker 3: called it like a fire hazard proposal because there were
Speaker 3: lots of candles. So maybe she was offended at my
Speaker 3: uh a romantic occasion. But that was a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 3: But I was surprising, a little bit surprising. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I understand that, Like, if you've not seen any of
Speaker 3: the videos, you're kind of like, why is this person
Speaker 3: randomly analyzing fair sex?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fair?
Speaker 4: What ELSEO do you like that? Her response was I'm
Speaker 4: not gay.
Speaker 1: Bro, bro bro, the most gay response ever, you know, Shannon.
Speaker 1: Some of the like stereotyping can be hard to do
Speaker 1: in the comedy world because if you're speaking to a
Speaker 1: certain audience, they're like, yeah, hilarious, stereotype of way, And
Speaker 1: then if you get in front of a different audience,
Speaker 1: they want to try to weaponize the idea that you're
Speaker 1: willing to say those things about marginalized groups in order
Speaker 1: to allow themselves to make what ultimately come across as
Speaker 1: harmful or in bad faith jokes or commentary.
Speaker 2: So how do you handle sort of like the.
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say it versus the like, here's the
Speaker 1: context and here's why this is clever and funny as
Speaker 1: opposed to just taking shots at marginalized people.
Speaker 5: Well, you don't take shots. It's like you never want
Speaker 5: to punch down. Don't punch down, so we're always punching up.
Speaker 5: I'll be a butch lesbian. I'll say, dyke all I want,
Speaker 5: I'll say, I guess, believe whatever you need to.
Speaker 4: I'll say all I want.
Speaker 5: So the things that I feel like I have ownership over,
Speaker 5: i'll say, but no end, you know, And sometimes I
Speaker 5: will I could maybe set someone up in a scene,
Speaker 5: not to give them permission to say it to me,
Speaker 5: but to let them know like I got you, you know,
Speaker 5: like I don't. I'm not here to make you feel
Speaker 5: uncomfortable or you know, if the cast is you know,
Speaker 5: we might be it might be like half queer people.
Speaker 5: And sometimes it's fun to bait a straight person in
Speaker 5: and like be like, hey, why you being homophobic, like
Speaker 5: in a scene.
Speaker 4: Just to have fun with that, and they.
Speaker 5: Know, like, we don't believe that the audience knows that
Speaker 5: they're not really that, but it's like we're having fun
Speaker 5: in a way that we are always like we're never
Speaker 5: making fun of people. It's always like there's never a
Speaker 5: victim in the scenes, which is just also what I
Speaker 5: teach my students. I'm like, any subject is up for grabs,
Speaker 5: but they can't be a victim. The bad person can't win.
Speaker 5: It has to be like we're we're making fun of
Speaker 5: that and comment all that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so we don't.
Speaker 5: Stereotypes are like in my improv and I'll you know,
Speaker 5: and even like you know, what we teach here, what
Speaker 5: I teach and what we're performing is like a no go.
Speaker 5: And if you sense the audience is like uh, then yeah,
Speaker 5: you can like kind of figure a way to to
Speaker 5: deal with it.
Speaker 4: Like I actually did a show. It was very funny.
Speaker 5: I did a show in I was in Germany earlier
Speaker 5: this year and I was over there for an improv festival,
Speaker 5: very nerdy thing, and I made a joke about like
Speaker 5: about them not being cool with like like like lesbians
Speaker 5: or something, and the audience was like what And a
Speaker 5: German who was I was doing the show with was like,
Speaker 5: what do you think of US in Europe.
Speaker 4: And I was like, sorry, in the US, this works. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just had to be like, I won't do that again.
Speaker 1: I was like, my bad in the US plays in
Speaker 1: the shitty place I'm from.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can make fun of ourselves in the US.
Speaker 5: Totally my bad. I get sorry, you love lesbians, You're right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think like being German is gay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so gay European. That's that legally blonde?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one thousand percent.
Speaker 1: Do you know Shannon In the comedy world, I remember,
Speaker 1: like years ago, I wrote a very strongly worded response
Speaker 1: to Christopher Hitchen's article that women aren't funny. This back
Speaker 1: in the day when I would have the free time
Speaker 1: to sit and write paragraph after paragraph disputing bullshit like that.
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like you're there's a.
Speaker 1: Connection or a similarity between that shitty line of thinking
Speaker 1: in comedy and then the assumptions about women in sports
Speaker 1: and women in the sports world.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, just I think people just
Speaker 5: thinking that women are just not as athletic or something. Definitely,
Speaker 5: that's that's all there, and it's and I think it's
Speaker 5: you just like we needed women in comedy to trail
Speaker 5: blaze and show that they are funnier not just as funny.
Speaker 5: You know, women in sports have had to trail blaze
Speaker 5: and be like you know, hey, here I am, and
Speaker 5: you know the Now you see young boys. I love
Speaker 5: seeing young boys at Liberty games with their Unesco jerseys,
Speaker 5: their Tea Cloud jerseys.
Speaker 4: Now it's like this is so awesome.
Speaker 2: All right, I've kept you off for too long.
Speaker 1: So I have one very last important question, Jackie. What
Speaker 1: women's sports league or sport is most ripe for content?
Speaker 1: Which ones are consistently the funniest or offering up the
Speaker 1: things that you can make funny.
Speaker 3: Oh that's that's such an interesting question. It's like I
Speaker 3: want to go with like what's taking up popularity and
Speaker 3: like what's like actually giving us something good. I think
Speaker 3: that rugby is. So I'm so ready for the Rugby
Speaker 3: World Cup. Like I just think that rugby is one
Speaker 3: of I think the gayest sport ever one yeah for me,
Speaker 3: and that's where my content comes from. So I am
Speaker 3: currently in like deep in my researching rugby era preparing
Speaker 3: for the World Cup. It's not a league, so it's
Speaker 3: not answer your question exactly right, But I think for
Speaker 3: WBR is.
Speaker 1: The league all that, but that league in particular, we
Speaker 1: don't know the teams and players well enough for that
Speaker 1: to be the focus.
Speaker 2: But the sport itself works.
Speaker 3: The sport itself is ready for some really fun gay stuff.
Speaker 1: I think we also invented a word here on the show.
Speaker 1: My friend Kara actually invented it, but I use it
Speaker 1: now called scruttle. She thought she was saying scrum and huddle,
Speaker 1: I guess, and invented the combination term scruddle, which is
Speaker 1: now my favorite term and should be accepted in rugby lexicon.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it should potentially replace scrum.
Speaker 2: Uh Shannon. Funniest sport or league?
Speaker 4: Oh fun?
Speaker 5: I mean funniest sport? Are those kids that ride those
Speaker 5: horses on sticks? That's correct, that's like the that's the
Speaker 5: funniest sport.
Speaker 2: Are we calling that a sport?
Speaker 3: I don't know, And I did a.
Speaker 1: Deep dive competitive hobby horse riding, hobby horse riding or
Speaker 1: I also think very funny.
Speaker 5: A very fun one is people that run like that
Speaker 5: learned how to run like horses, like horse girl, you
Speaker 5: know the horse girl that runs and just horse jumping.
Speaker 5: I think that's really that's it's got to be a sport.
Speaker 5: I think there's so many sports, but I will say
Speaker 5: I love I guess it's you know, I'm a little biased,
Speaker 5: but I just love that. I love the personalities that
Speaker 5: are being allowed to shine in the w n b A.
Speaker 4: I love my Marina.
Speaker 5: Maybe crash seconds, I love I love watching I tried
Speaker 5: to get a video of it. But Natasha Cloud, well,
Speaker 5: she's on the bench is so fun to watch and
Speaker 5: my seats are like diagonal, and I was the I
Speaker 5: forget which game it was, but the starters were sitting
Speaker 5: a lot and the bench got to play a lot,
Speaker 5: and I was recording her and she is just entertaining.
Speaker 5: She was holding like a liberty mutual sign at one
Speaker 5: boy and was like like because that's like one of
Speaker 5: the sponsors. There was a time where like sab fell
Speaker 5: on the ground and she just like was spinning sab around.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I believe this might have been the same game where
Speaker 1: sabria Esque was celebrated wildly about a review call that
Speaker 1: went their way.
Speaker 5: Yes, but before that, which it didn't show I guess
Speaker 5: even see on TV was she was caught on the
Speaker 5: jumbo tron. She was sitting there and she was saying
Speaker 5: to somebody else that she just was like, she hit
Speaker 5: me on the head, and she like made like a
Speaker 5: silly like face, and then entire everyone's laughing and then
Speaker 5: she looks up and she's like, oh, like she felt
Speaker 5: so she like so it was kind of like this, like.
Speaker 4: She was vindicated, she was caught being goofy, and so
Speaker 4: then she just kept her goofiness going. Yes, that celebration
Speaker 4: out of context.
Speaker 5: I think some people were like, whoa, that's you're up
Speaker 5: fifty you did that, but it was no.
Speaker 1: She just was like but also was vindicated in her
Speaker 1: claims of the of the blow of the head.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I could talk to you all all day.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the intersection of sports and comedy and
Speaker 1: you both do it so well. And I am attempting.
Speaker 1: I've made like three TikTok videos. I'm attempting to make more.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna start following more of Jackie and
Speaker 1: just basically trying to be you coach Jackie perfect, not
Speaker 1: literally rip you off, but just figure out how you
Speaker 1: do what you do so I could do it better.
Speaker 2: Oh good, You guys are the best.
Speaker 1: Thank you for Thank you for taking the time coach Jackie,
Speaker 1: if you're willing sometime we might call you up and
Speaker 1: request a specific Is she gay or is she just
Speaker 1: fill in the blank.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to hit you up when that becomes necessary.
Speaker 3: Perfect love it.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Jackie and Shannon for taking the
Speaker 1: time to hang out with us. We got to take
Speaker 1: another break when we come back on your marks, Get set, tumble,
Speaker 1: welcome back slices. We love that you're listening, but we
Speaker 1: want you to get in the game every day too,
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Speaker 1: to the finish line, rating one hundred out of one
Speaker 1: hundred meters of fun review. While competing at the Oregon
Speaker 1: High School Track and Field Championships, Brooklyn Anderson won the
Speaker 1: one hundred meter hurdles by pulling out a skill from
Speaker 1: her gymnastics days. By the last few hurdles of the race,
Speaker 1: Anderson had built a strong lead, distancing herself from the
Speaker 1: field a little bit, so when she clipped the final hurdle,
Speaker 1: it didn't spell immediate disaster. Instead, she tumbled and tumbled again,
Speaker 1: performing two summer assaults to cross the finish line still
Speaker 1: in the lead. That's right, She's summer assaulted twice while
Speaker 1: staying in her lane and maintaining her lead to win
Speaker 1: the race. After the win, Andersen told the Oregonian quote,
Speaker 1: all I remember is resorting back to my gymnastics career
Speaker 1: and just summer assaulting over that line. I wasn't sure
Speaker 1: how far back everybody else was behind me, so I
Speaker 1: knew to just keep rolling, to keep going because I
Speaker 1: really wanted to get first end quote. We'll link to
Speaker 1: Anderson's viral hurdle and tumble in the show notes, and
Speaker 1: of course we'll be taking that life advice into the
Speaker 1: rest of our day. Just keep rolling, Just keep going.
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