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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we are

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Speaker 1: yet again offering to donate an ACL to a player

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Speaker 2: Slute, just hit me up. What's mine is yours? It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: June tenth, and on today's show.

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Speaker 1: It's time for another group chat with two very funny folks,

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Speaker 1: social media influencer coach Jackie, an actor improviser, and New

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Speaker 1: York liberty diehard Shannon O'Neill. Coach Jackie was recently a

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Speaker 1: guest monologist at Shannon's weekly rat.

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Speaker 2: Scraps show in NYC.

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Speaker 1: They joined me to talk about creating content, the intersections

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Speaker 1: between women in comedy and women in sports, and the

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Speaker 1: leagues that provide the most laughs. Plus a welcome return,

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Speaker 1: painting lines to grow the game, and somersaulting your way

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Speaker 1: to victory. It's all coming up right after this welcome

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Speaker 1: Max Slices. Here's what you need to know today. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the WNBA. On Monday, the league announced a

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Speaker 1: new initiative dubbed Line Them Up, which connects local communities

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Speaker 1: to women's professional hoops by painting WNBA three point lines

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Speaker 1: at parks around the country. Quote designed to foster more

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Speaker 1: games to the park. The campaign highlights the league's deep

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Speaker 1: commitment to building community, visibility.

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Speaker 2: And representation in public spaces. End quote.

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Speaker 1: I also just love that if you think you can

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Speaker 1: farther away than you'd think. In addition to painting the lines,

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Speaker 1: the league will also be donating money to participating park courts.

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Speaker 1: The initiative is starting with six parks in New York,

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Speaker 1: and they're taking suggestions. So if you know or represent

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Speaker 1: three point line, check out the link in the show

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Speaker 1: notes more WNBA. We got two games tonight. First up,

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Dream hosts the Indiana Fever at seven thirty

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern. Ahead of that contest, Fever coach Stephanie White

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Speaker 1: gave an update on Caitlin Clark, who's been out for

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Speaker 1: two weeks with a quad strain. Per White, Clark will

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Speaker 1: miss this game too, but is quote ready to start

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Speaker 1: ramping back up. Then at eight pm, the Chicago Sky

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Speaker 1: first contest since losing Courtney Vanderslute to a season ending

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Speaker 1: minute on Saturday. Lavell had been forced to sit out

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Speaker 1: the start of the season after ankle surgery last December.

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Speaker 1: Lavell said that the break from playing helped her find

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Speaker 1: some silver linings, saying, quote, learning how to be a

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Speaker 1: to do that tenfold end quote. Gotham currently sits in

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Speaker 1: We told you last week about French tennis player Los

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Speaker 1: French Open. Finally, an amateur to pro turnaround the likes

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Speaker 1: of which we usually see in hoops when players go

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Speaker 1: Athletes Unlimited Softball announced that former Oklahoma pitcher Sam Landry

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Speaker 1: we got an important Pride Month times Hoops and Gay

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Speaker 1: Shit discovery. We just learned that Indiana Fever head coach

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Speaker 1: Stephanie White and ESPN NBA sideline reporter Lisa Salters are

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Speaker 1: She's a social media superstar with over six hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: basketball coach, it's coach Jackie High coach.

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Speaker 1: Favorite The Other Two. Her website bio concludes with quote,

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Speaker 3: I am not. I'm not. I work with children and

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Speaker 3: I have a mysterious job, but I do make enough money.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever talk about your job job or is

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Speaker 3: It's a mystery. We'll keep it a mystery.

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Speaker 4: Now, are you smart, Jackie?

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Speaker 5: Are you putting that money away in an ira A

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Speaker 4: Because now's the time.

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Speaker 3: I'm it's it's invested. It's invested.

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Speaker 3: how it all works. It's in whatever is the most general, specific,

436
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Speaker 3: diversified question mark kind of great.

437
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Speaker 1: So you have some sort of financial advisor or expert

438
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,679
Speaker 1: that's helping you put your money where it should be

439
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 1: to grow.

440
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Speaker 3: I'm finding that person. I'm finding that person. I didn't

441
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 3: know how taxes would be terrible. So that was really

442
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 3: a that was a big one. And now we're really

443
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 3: trying to find a planner. I'm not a planner.

444
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I should. I should. I would recommend you

445
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, get somebody else. Yeah, yeah, you're.

446
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 4: So, you're so ahead of the game if you do

447
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 4: start doing it. Now.

448
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 5: I have friends that are forty and do not have

449
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 5: a savings and I'm like, what are you doing? And

450
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 5: so you got it. Anyway, this is a sports podcast.

451
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Speaker 1: You have balanced that social media brings you fame and fortune,

452
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 1: but also everything else that brings. Do you have tips

453
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 1: for surviving online? Because you are it is a job,

454
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 1: which means you can't just decide I'm over this and leave.

455
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Speaker 3: Wait no, yeah, I mean it's I think for me,

456
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,880
Speaker 3: when I started posting, I was posting ten videos a day,

457
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 3: like I was really really into it, and then I

458
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 3: kind of plateaued and I just posted one video a day,

459
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 3: and you never know, like I went viral a lot,

460
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't retain followers a lot. And so for me,

461
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: I always think like like series like my Isshik series

462
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 3: is like a way that people want to come back

463
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,719
Speaker 3: for more. And it's always about people coming back for more,

464
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 3: and that's how you, I guess, survive online. And if

465
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 3: the questions more about like how do you deal with

466
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: hate and stuff, I don't know, it's hard. It's just

467
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: you just got to have your own support system.

468
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was more about that, But I

469
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the issue. Gegu it's so good

470
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: but really quick. I just I think, I mean, is

471
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: it natural then? Because I find for me personally when

472
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 1: people ask me about like clapping back on social media,

473
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 1: which I used to do a lot more and now

474
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Speaker 1: I just kind of block and don't even worry about

475
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: it because half the time it's like bots or people

476
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: being paid to get engagement. But back in the day,

477
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Speaker 1: I felt like, as a straight cis like physically able

478
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: person who has a real tough, thick skin. I wanted

479
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: to get out in front and take the slings and

480
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: arrows and show other people that I was getting it

481
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 1: and that you can clap back or you can be

482
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Speaker 1: kind back, which sometimes I was. I would just say, hey,

483
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 1: seems like you might be going through something, like I

484
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: hope it gets better.

485
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Speaker 2: This is kind of a weird thing to send a stranger.

486
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Speaker 2: It's kind of mean.

487
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Speaker 1: And when people ask me about it, I would say,

488
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Speaker 1: it's sort of just natural for me. So is it

489
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: of natural for you to be able to balance whatever

490
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: hatred or threats or whatever.

491
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't.

492
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Speaker 1: Get that the way that a woman in like traditional

493
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Speaker 1: sports media does.

494
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Speaker 3: No I get it. I I think that it's not natural.

495
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 3: It's unnatural just as a as a general thing that happens.

496
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 3: No one should be taking in that much of good

497
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: or bad. I think that that's why it becomes unhealthy.

498
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 3: Is you really thrive on the good stuff, and if

499
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: you devalue all of it, then none of it matters,

500
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: and then what's you know, what's driving you? But for me,

501
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 3: I was actually just talking to some middle schoolers about

502
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 3: making videos and they were asking me how do you

503
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: deal with feedback? And one of the teachers said, and

504
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 3: I actually I didn't have a good answer. I was like,

505
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 3: it's really hard and I'm struggling. And one of the

506
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: teachers said, sometimes when you you really have to say something,

507
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what anyone says, because you know that

508
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: you have to say it. And that I was like, oh,

509
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: that's me. Like, I believe everything I say when I

510
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: post it online, especially now with having a bigger following.

511
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 3: I think really hard about what I say, and I

512
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: say it and I mean it. I mean everything I say,

513
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: and so that is how I'm able to deal with it.

514
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: I think to myself, well, I didn't misspeak, and that

515
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: person disagrees with me, and you, like you said, like,

516
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 3: I am so privileged. And so if I'm dealing with

517
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: a week of people saying really awful things, that's okay

518
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: because the people I was sticking up for and whatever.

519
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: I said deal with it.

520
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: Just they can't press that's their whole life.

521
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's how I felt, especially when most of

522
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: my hatred would usually come when I was talking about

523
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: domestic violence, sexual assault, male female dynamic stories and sports,

524
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: and so I'd always be like, they're just mad that

525
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm bringing something to light that they would rather we

526
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: pretend didn't exist. And I'm okay with being attacked for

527
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: that if it means that I'm doing the stories that

528
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: need to be heard. Shannon, I feel like it's adjacent

529
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: to what we just talked about. With your career, you're

530
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: going to have these like big ups where suddenly you're like,

531
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm on Broad City, Like, I guess

532
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: this is it. I'm real famous now and forever and ever.

533
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: I'm going to be just doing the best things. And

534
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: then the next week it's like, Okay, didn't get that

535
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: audition or didn't get that callback. How do you handle

536
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: the sort of ups and downs and the fact that

537
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: you're job is entirely subjective. You could crush it and

538
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: the person could be like, ap, she reminds me of

539
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend, and now I'm out.

540
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. It took a lot of learning that.

541
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 5: I mean when you when I was first going on auditions,

542
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 5: I would be waiting by the phone, you know, checking

543
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 5: my email that I get it.

544
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 4: I get it, And then you finally get to a point.

545
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 5: Where it's like you just learn, like I auditioned and

546
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 5: now I'm moving on with my day. I just like,

547
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 5: it's just like a bunch of job interviews and if

548
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 5: I get chosen, I get you know, then I get chosen,

549
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 5: and I'm but I'm very lucky in that I get

550
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 5: to perform a lot. So I might go on audition

551
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 5: and like maybe not get something that I really wanted,

552
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 5: But then you know, on a Sunday, on a Friday,

553
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 5: I get to walk into a theater and perform pre.

554
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: Pandemic consistent sold out shows.

555
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 5: We're still working on the post pandemic comeback, but I

556
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 5: would you know, but still audiences that you know, paid

557
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 5: for a ticket and I get to make them laugh.

558
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 5: And that's like then I get like, I really like,

559
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 5: that's how I dopamine. You have a little validation that like,

560
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 5: oh no, okay, you are You're funny, you're talented, you

561
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 5: got this, And that's just and that's why I feel

562
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 5: so so lucky that I get to do that. There's

563
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 5: like a lot of actors that are going out and

564
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 5: auditioning and they don't get to like still perform that week.

565
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: I get to perform every week, and I know that

566
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 5: that is like, I'm so lucky.

567
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 4: There's no wood in this room, but I'll not I'd.

568
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: Not uh for those who might be nearby where you

569
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: are and can help out with that. Not selling out

570
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: every single week, where are they going to get tickets

571
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: and see you?

572
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 4: Oh you?

573
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: So Every Sunday is at a theater called Caveat.

574
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Speaker 4: It's on the Lower East Side. The show is called

575
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: Rat four A's Scraps. That's the one that Jackie did.

576
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 5: You can also stream it online, so if you can't

577
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 5: make it into the city, you can watch it. So

578
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 5: if you just go to ratscraps dot com or Caveat

579
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 5: which is spelled as Caveat just look up Caveat Theater

580
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: in New York City.

581
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a.

582
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: Lot of awesome performing that you have probably seen on

583
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 5: your your TV.

584
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: Is the are the four a's in rat a nod

585
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: to the multiple s's in Askat?

586
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 5: They are because UCB shut down in New York from

587
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 5: the pandemic and it was like completely gone, and I

588
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 5: was like, it's never coming back. So I started I

589
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 5: used to run Askat and produce and run and host Askat.

590
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 5: So I started a new show as an homage to

591
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 5: Rat Scraps.

592
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: Rat Scraps. I love it and it has a like

593
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: similar sound to it. Askat, for those who don't know,

594
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: is ucb's sort of signature flag show show, which.

595
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 5: Is which is back now. So UCB is back.

596
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 4: So now there's like this.

597
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: Now there's an ASCAT and a rat Scraps.

598
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 5: An ass Cat on Fridays and Saturdays, and a rat

599
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 5: Scraps on SuDS and I.

600
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Speaker 4: Do them all, so.

601
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: I love it. Jackie.

602
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: I want to talk about your most famous series that

603
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: you mentioned.

604
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: Are you gay or do you just coach women's basketball?

605
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: For viewers that haven't seen this series, can you summarize it?

606
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? I can try. I can try. Basically, it's I

607
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: always say, like how it started was I was watching

608
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: I was mentioned I went to LSU. So it was

609
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, pretty good year for us. I was

610
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: watching March Badness with my roommate and we were I

611
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: think it was an Iowa game. We were looking at

612
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: Lisa Bluter. We were like, what do you think what's

613
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: going on there? Like do we think that she's gay

614
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: or not? We really did what the videos are now,

615
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: which is when I go through and I kind of say,

616
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: all the hair is kind of in between gay and

617
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 3: what a most the mom cut that everyone has, and

618
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 3: oh the shoes those are gay, and the pants they

619
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: would be gay if they didn't if they had belt loops.

620
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: They don't know belt loops, so they're straight. And we

621
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: were having that conversation and so I made a video

622
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: and the video didn't really go all that viral. When

623
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: I made the first one and I just kind of

624
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: kept doing it, and I think probably the Kim Wulky

625
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: one was you know, you can't give her any credit

626
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: for anything, but the Kim Wulky one was the first

627
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: one that went like really really.

628
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: Viral and the Mulky effect.

629
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate.

630
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate.

631
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: I remember seeing the blued one that might have been

632
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: the first one. I said, I can't remember.

633
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: I saw one years ago and sent it to a

634
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: big group chat of lesbians. I have a fair amount

635
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: of lesbian friends where I'm just like the straight lady

636
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: who hangs out with them, and they were dying laughing

637
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: about it, and it made me realize that there are

638
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: so many women, particularly women's basketball, but women coaching in

639
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: general and women's sports in general where they really are

640
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. There's a fine line between a

641
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: sporty straight gal and a lesbian.

642
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: It's incredibly fine, and it's that's what makes it fun.

643
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: It's like, it's the thing that I always say. It's

644
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: people say, oh, you're stereotyping this or that, Like no,

645
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know. It's very clear that I'll say, oh,

646
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: this is gay, or I a'll say like the way

647
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: she's holding her phone is gay. That's ridiculous. I just

648
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: made it.

649
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: Up just being cunny.

650
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: It's funny. And also that's like it also is like

651
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: a kind of a point to like how I go

652
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: about the world as a lesbian, because it is how

653
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: I see the world. Kind of I just don't think

654
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: about it, but I that is what I do write

655
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: Like I'm looking around, I'm like, oh, I want that

656
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: ring up keys.

657
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: That's fair too, because if you're trying to find people

658
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: to hit on, you're trying to get the cues from

659
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: various things. And I remember my sister played women's professional

660
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: tackle football and it was years ago, and she was

661
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: asking her teammates when they would go out to the

662
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: gay bars, like is everyone gonna know I'm straight?

663
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: Or are they going to hit on me? Like how

664
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: are they?

665
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: And they're like, don't worry, shoes, purse, And that was

666
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: like they're two rules, as you could tell. And then

667
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: my friend Ali always says, just check the fingernails, but

668
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: of course you could be a pillow princess and you

669
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: just never know. But that's, you know, one good indicator,

670
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: but there's all those different things when you're making your videos.

671
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: How did you decide how many of them you wanted

672
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: to be something you actually might look at to decide

673
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: if someone's gay, and how many you wanted to be ridiculous,

674
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: like oh, holding her phone straight.

675
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: I think it's about half. There's a lot of it

676
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: where I will just get all the pictures to start

677
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: and when I look at the picture, if I genuinely

678
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: look at it and think, oh, that's something that I

679
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: think is something lesbians do, or like I love to

680
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: be like that's something that a twenty sixteen lesbian would

681
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: do and not necessarily lesbian, or like the little details, Wow, okay,

682
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: best is gay, belt is gay. Hands here feel straight,

683
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: that watch is gay, the hair is straight for now.

684
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: But if it's consistently just like that, that's gay.

685
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: And then in my head I'm like, ooh, okay, let

686
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: me think about it. And then I'm like, she's just

687
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: making a joke.

688
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: Sarah, like you don't have to try to analyze weather.

689
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen had like a peak moment for that.

690
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: Right exactly. But it's about half. And it's more so

691
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: that if I look at a picture and I can't

692
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: find anything, then I'll be like, Okay, her eyebrows raised

693
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: in a gay way, like it's it's just to make it,

694
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: you know, I have to add that in there. So

695
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: it's not like people will message me and they'll say, Jackie,

696
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: you have to find out if this person's gay, please

697
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: do a video on her. And I'm like, I don't

698
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: decipher it. I'm not actually investigating. That's crazy.

699
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: You're not like that geolocator guy who like looks at

700
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: a photo when he's like, oh, this is in Maine,

701
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, Like, Yeah, that's an

702
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: entire career and gets paid a lot to do that.

703
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not like using my like spidy sense.

704
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna google it.

705
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 5: It could be a good cameo thing you could do,

706
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 5: have have people submit a photo their friends I've done.

707
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: Are you on a cameo?

708
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: I was, well, I don't do it anymore because it

709
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: was just so difficult because you can't send photos via

710
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: cameo cameo so they would like instant to me, and

711
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: it was like I felt bad charging a lot, but

712
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 3: it was a lot of work. It was just a

713
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: whole kind of a mess. But that's something I have

714
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: done before, and I mean after the series went viral.

715
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: I went out on the street with a let me

716
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: guess your sexuality sign and I just did it on it.

717
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: They all campus.

718
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: I feel like there are some progressive leagues that would

719
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: be wise to have you come to training camp and

720
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: do a series of.

721
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: The team because we did just see the stud buds.

722
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: Have you know some conversations with teammates about like how

723
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: they knew they were straight and things like that, so

724
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: we could we could do a coach Jackie.

725
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: Version of that.

726
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: Have you heard feedback from anyone that didn't like being

727
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: a part of your little game and or were offended

728
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: that you thought anything about them was gay or straight?

729
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

730
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: I made a video on Sabrina Enescua and she she

731
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: did respond in the comments and she said, I think

732
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: something along the lines of like I'm not gay, bro,

733
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: like what makes my shoes gay?

734
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: And interesting?

735
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I at the time, I was just kind

736
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: of like, oh, that's a little bit strange. I would

737
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: have thought that she would be chill with it. I

738
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: to be fair at the end, obviously, I always say

739
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: the answer. So like she was like, I'm not gay.

740
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, I didn't say you were. I said that

741
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: you're I mean I called like her signature shoes gay,

742
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: which I think that's hilarious because if someone's wearing those recreationally, yeah,

743
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: my gods, come on. I ended the video with her

744
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: proposal like a picture of her then fiance, and I

745
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: called it like a fire hazard proposal because there were

746
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: lots of candles. So maybe she was offended at my

747
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: uh a romantic occasion. But that was a little bit disappointing.

748
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: But I was surprising, a little bit surprising. Yeah, but

749
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: I understand that, Like, if you've not seen any of

750
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: the videos, you're kind of like, why is this person

751
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: randomly analyzing fair sex?

752
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

753
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: Fair?

754
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: What ELSEO do you like that? Her response was I'm

755
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: not gay.

756
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: Bro, bro bro, the most gay response ever, you know, Shannon.

757
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: Some of the like stereotyping can be hard to do

758
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: in the comedy world because if you're speaking to a

759
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: certain audience, they're like, yeah, hilarious, stereotype of way, And

760
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: then if you get in front of a different audience,

761
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: they want to try to weaponize the idea that you're

762
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: willing to say those things about marginalized groups in order

763
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: to allow themselves to make what ultimately come across as

764
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: harmful or in bad faith jokes or commentary.

765
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: So how do you handle sort of like the.

766
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say it versus the like, here's the

767
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: context and here's why this is clever and funny as

768
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: opposed to just taking shots at marginalized people.

769
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 5: Well, you don't take shots. It's like you never want

770
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 5: to punch down. Don't punch down, so we're always punching up.

771
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: I'll be a butch lesbian. I'll say, dyke all I want,

772
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 5: I'll say, I guess, believe whatever you need to.

773
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: I'll say all I want.

774
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 5: So the things that I feel like I have ownership over,

775
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 5: i'll say, but no end, you know, And sometimes I

776
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 5: will I could maybe set someone up in a scene,

777
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 5: not to give them permission to say it to me,

778
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 5: but to let them know like I got you, you know,

779
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 5: like I don't. I'm not here to make you feel

780
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 5: uncomfortable or you know, if the cast is you know,

781
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 5: we might be it might be like half queer people.

782
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 5: And sometimes it's fun to bait a straight person in

783
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 5: and like be like, hey, why you being homophobic, like

784
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 5: in a scene.

785
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: Just to have fun with that, and they.

786
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 5: Know, like, we don't believe that the audience knows that

787
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 5: they're not really that, but it's like we're having fun

788
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 5: in a way that we are always like we're never

789
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 5: making fun of people. It's always like there's never a

790
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 5: victim in the scenes, which is just also what I

791
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: teach my students. I'm like, any subject is up for grabs,

792
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 5: but they can't be a victim. The bad person can't win.

793
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: It has to be like we're we're making fun of

794
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: that and comment all that.

795
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, so we don't.

796
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 5: Stereotypes are like in my improv and I'll you know,

797
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 5: and even like you know, what we teach here, what

798
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 5: I teach and what we're performing is like a no go.

799
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 5: And if you sense the audience is like uh, then yeah,

800
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: you can like kind of figure a way to to

801
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 5: deal with it.

802
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 4: Like I actually did a show. It was very funny.

803
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 5: I did a show in I was in Germany earlier

804
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 5: this year and I was over there for an improv festival,

805
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 5: very nerdy thing, and I made a joke about like

806
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 5: about them not being cool with like like like lesbians

807
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 5: or something, and the audience was like what And a

808
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 5: German who was I was doing the show with was like,

809
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 5: what do you think of US in Europe.

810
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 4: And I was like, sorry, in the US, this works. Yeah.

811
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: I just had to be like, I won't do that again.

812
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: I was like, my bad in the US plays in

813
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: the shitty place I'm from.

814
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can make fun of ourselves in the US.

815
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 5: Totally my bad. I get sorry, you love lesbians, You're right?

816
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think like being German is gay.

817
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so gay European. That's that legally blonde?

818
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one thousand percent.

819
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: Do you know Shannon In the comedy world, I remember,

820
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: like years ago, I wrote a very strongly worded response

821
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: to Christopher Hitchen's article that women aren't funny. This back

822
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: in the day when I would have the free time

823
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: to sit and write paragraph after paragraph disputing bullshit like that.

824
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like you're there's a.

825
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Connection or a similarity between that shitty line of thinking

826
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: in comedy and then the assumptions about women in sports

827
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: and women in the sports world.

828
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, just I think people just

829
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: thinking that women are just not as athletic or something. Definitely,

830
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 5: that's that's all there, and it's and I think it's

831
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 5: you just like we needed women in comedy to trail

832
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 5: blaze and show that they are funnier not just as funny.

833
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 5: You know, women in sports have had to trail blaze

834
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 5: and be like you know, hey, here I am, and

835
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 5: you know the Now you see young boys. I love

836
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 5: seeing young boys at Liberty games with their Unesco jerseys,

837
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 5: their Tea Cloud jerseys.

838
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: Now it's like this is so awesome.

839
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: All right, I've kept you off for too long.

840
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: So I have one very last important question, Jackie. What

841
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: women's sports league or sport is most ripe for content?

842
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Which ones are consistently the funniest or offering up the

843
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: things that you can make funny.

844
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: Oh that's that's such an interesting question. It's like I

845
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: want to go with like what's taking up popularity and

846
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 3: like what's like actually giving us something good. I think

847
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 3: that rugby is. So I'm so ready for the Rugby

848
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: World Cup. Like I just think that rugby is one

849
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: of I think the gayest sport ever one yeah for me,

850
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: and that's where my content comes from. So I am

851
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: currently in like deep in my researching rugby era preparing

852
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: for the World Cup. It's not a league, so it's

853
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: not answer your question exactly right, But I think for

854
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: WBR is.

855
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: The league all that, but that league in particular, we

856
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: don't know the teams and players well enough for that

857
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: to be the focus.

858
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: But the sport itself works.

859
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 3: The sport itself is ready for some really fun gay stuff.

860
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: I think we also invented a word here on the show.

861
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: My friend Kara actually invented it, but I use it

862
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: now called scruttle. She thought she was saying scrum and huddle,

863
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: I guess, and invented the combination term scruddle, which is

864
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: now my favorite term and should be accepted in rugby lexicon.

865
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it should potentially replace scrum.

866
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: Uh Shannon. Funniest sport or league?

867
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: Oh fun?

868
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 5: I mean funniest sport? Are those kids that ride those

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Speaker 5: horses on sticks? That's correct, that's like the that's the

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Speaker 5: funniest sport.

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Speaker 2: Are we calling that a sport?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, And I did a.

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Speaker 1: Deep dive competitive hobby horse riding, hobby horse riding or

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Speaker 1: I also think very funny.

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Speaker 5: A very fun one is people that run like that

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Speaker 5: learned how to run like horses, like horse girl, you

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Speaker 5: know the horse girl that runs and just horse jumping.

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Speaker 5: I think that's really that's it's got to be a sport.

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Speaker 5: I think there's so many sports, but I will say

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Speaker 5: I love I guess it's you know, I'm a little biased,

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Speaker 5: but I just love that. I love the personalities that

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Speaker 5: are being allowed to shine in the w n b A.

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Speaker 4: I love my Marina.

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Speaker 5: Maybe crash seconds, I love I love watching I tried

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Speaker 5: to get a video of it. But Natasha Cloud, well,

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Speaker 5: she's on the bench is so fun to watch and

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Speaker 5: my seats are like diagonal, and I was the I

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Speaker 5: forget which game it was, but the starters were sitting

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Speaker 5: a lot and the bench got to play a lot,

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Speaker 5: and I was recording her and she is just entertaining.

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Speaker 5: She was holding like a liberty mutual sign at one

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Speaker 5: boy and was like like because that's like one of

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Speaker 5: the sponsors. There was a time where like sab fell

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Speaker 5: on the ground and she just like was spinning sab around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I believe this might have been the same game where

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Speaker 1: sabria Esque was celebrated wildly about a review call that

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Speaker 1: went their way.

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Speaker 5: Yes, but before that, which it didn't show I guess

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Speaker 5: even see on TV was she was caught on the

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Speaker 5: jumbo tron. She was sitting there and she was saying

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Speaker 5: to somebody else that she just was like, she hit

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Speaker 5: me on the head, and she like made like a

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Speaker 5: silly like face, and then entire everyone's laughing and then

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Speaker 5: she looks up and she's like, oh, like she felt

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Speaker 5: so she like so it was kind of like this, like.

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Speaker 4: She was vindicated, she was caught being goofy, and so

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Speaker 4: then she just kept her goofiness going. Yes, that celebration

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Speaker 4: out of context.

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Speaker 5: I think some people were like, whoa, that's you're up

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Speaker 5: fifty you did that, but it was no.

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Speaker 1: She just was like but also was vindicated in her

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Speaker 1: claims of the of the blow of the head.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I could talk to you all all day.

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the intersection of sports and comedy and

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Speaker 1: you both do it so well. And I am attempting.

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Speaker 1: I've made like three TikTok videos. I'm attempting to make more.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna start following more of Jackie and

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Speaker 1: just basically trying to be you coach Jackie perfect, not

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Speaker 1: literally rip you off, but just figure out how you

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Speaker 1: do what you do so I could do it better.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, You guys are the best.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for Thank you for taking the time coach Jackie,

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Speaker 1: if you're willing sometime we might call you up and

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Speaker 1: request a specific Is she gay or is she just

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Speaker 1: fill in the blank.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to hit you up when that becomes necessary.

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Speaker 3: Perfect love it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Jackie and Shannon for taking the

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Speaker 1: time to hang out with us. We got to take

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Speaker 1: another break when we come back on your marks, Get set, tumble,

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Speaker 1: welcome back slices. We love that you're listening, but we

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Speaker 1: want you to get in the game every day too,

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Speaker 1: So here's our good game play of the day. Follow

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Speaker 1: Jackie and Shannon on social media. We'll link to their

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Speaker 1: handles in the show notes, and like I said before,

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Speaker 1: keep sending those picks in good game merch, and keep

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Speaker 1: the link in the show notes. Again, we always love

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Speaker 1: to hear from you, so hit us up on email

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Speaker 1: come on, it's easy, like this some ressaulting your way

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Speaker 1: to the finish line, rating one hundred out of one

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Speaker 1: hundred meters of fun review. While competing at the Oregon

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Speaker 1: High School Track and Field Championships, Brooklyn Anderson won the

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Speaker 1: one hundred meter hurdles by pulling out a skill from

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Speaker 1: her gymnastics days. By the last few hurdles of the race,

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Speaker 1: Anderson had built a strong lead, distancing herself from the

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Speaker 1: field a little bit, so when she clipped the final hurdle,

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Speaker 1: it didn't spell immediate disaster. Instead, she tumbled and tumbled again,

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Speaker 1: performing two summer assaults to cross the finish line still

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Speaker 1: in the lead. That's right, She's summer assaulted twice while

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Speaker 1: staying in her lane and maintaining her lead to win

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Speaker 1: the race. After the win, Andersen told the Oregonian quote,

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Speaker 1: all I remember is resorting back to my gymnastics career

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Speaker 1: and just summer assaulting over that line. I wasn't sure

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Speaker 1: how far back everybody else was behind me, so I

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Speaker 1: knew to just keep rolling, to keep going because I

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Speaker 1: really wanted to get first end quote. We'll link to

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Speaker 1: Anderson's viral hurdle and tumble in the show notes, and

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Speaker 1: of course we'll be taking that life advice into the

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Speaker 1: rest of our day. Just keep rolling, Just keep going.

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Speaker 1: please say something nice about us. Thanks for listening. See

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Good game, Coach, Jackie, Good game, Shannon. You

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Speaker 1: having to be an adult and get a financial advisor, but.

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Speaker 2: Like for real kids, do it. It's really important.

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