WEBVTT - Ep. 206: Cobra Scare

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<v Speaker 1>Here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the last month of summer vacation for all these

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<v Speaker 2>school children, and they're not allowed to enjoy it because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know when you're going to get tacked and

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<v Speaker 2>bitten by an Indian cobra.

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<v Speaker 3>Every corner of this planet has wild animals that are revered, feared,

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<v Speaker 3>and sensationalized, deadly scorpions, killer bees, piranhas giant crocodiles, to

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<v Speaker 3>African lions.

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<v Speaker 4>However, the cultures.

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<v Speaker 3>Of where these beasts exist help the people to know

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<v Speaker 3>how to deal and live with them. But what if

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<v Speaker 3>one of them was transplanted to where you lived, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even right in Middle America? And what if that beast

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the world's top wildlife villains, the global

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<v Speaker 3>bad boy, the Cobra. I want to tell you about

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<v Speaker 3>the Great Cobra Scare of nineteen fifty three, A story of.

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<v Speaker 4>Fear, fangs, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Lies, but it all ties back into the unique identity

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<v Speaker 3>of a quaint Midwestern town. I really doubt that you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to want to miss this one.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the article of the two page article in

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<v Speaker 5>Life magazine. Here's a postcard new home of Cobra's Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>the durn Woods is full of them and says exclusive,

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<v Speaker 5>try our new cobra haircut. It's daring and deadly, but

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<v Speaker 5>Salon on Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow the cobra haircut.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Clay Nukem and this is the Bear

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<v Speaker 3>for insight and unlikely places, and where we'll tell the

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<v Speaker 4>As the place as we explore. I just pulled over

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<v Speaker 4>to my neighbor's house, Fred Lowly. He's a He's got

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<v Speaker 4>a trailer.

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<v Speaker 3>In his front yard that says Lollly's oddity show venomous snakes.

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<v Speaker 4>Walking up to his door. Hey, mister Fred, how are

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<v Speaker 4>you doing.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing good. Good to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>As the crow flies. I'm less than two miles from

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<v Speaker 3>my house in the Ozarks of Arkansas. Mister Fred is

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<v Speaker 3>eighty two years old, wiry, witty, and seemingly imperfect health.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got shoulder linked white hair and he's been bitten

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<v Speaker 3>by overt any venomous snakes. He's a real piece of work.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here to talk about cobra's What do you got? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm recording, is that okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Thing I didn't know exactly. He wanted some information on cobra.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>You ever heard of William Hast Bill Hass Miami Serpentarium. No,

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<v Speaker 6>he did, but he lived to be about one hundred.

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<v Speaker 6>He's been bitting a couple of hundred times, probably about

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<v Speaker 6>different things. Even a king cobra lived through it.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, you've you've been bit by a cobra.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but it was a much It wasn't a king kobra.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a African band of Egypsian cobra.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that doesn't exactly sound like like a

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<v Speaker 3>good one to get bit by.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh it's not, I too. What it got a good

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<v Speaker 6>solid grip on me right along and here I'm showing

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<v Speaker 6>my index finger and held on and was chewing. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's what they do, is they chew their v elemental

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<v Speaker 6>They don't know. Yeah, it's not like a rattle snake.

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<v Speaker 6>They pop and they're gone.

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<v Speaker 4>It's done like a rattler was.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, cobra's grab a hole, chew it in. They've

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<v Speaker 6>got shorter things, real starry thing and king cobras have

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<v Speaker 6>a really big one and they've been known to kill elephants.

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<v Speaker 6>It's so mad, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Cobras are no doubt the global bad boys of serpents.

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<v Speaker 3>The king cobra, native to northern India and southern China,

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<v Speaker 3>is considered by some to be the most venomous snake

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, and they can get over fifteen feet long.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Fred was bitten by a banded Egyptian cobra, not

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<v Speaker 3>as venomous as the king cobra, but that was in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety two while he was touring with a snake

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<v Speaker 3>display at a carnival in Clarksville, Tennessee. Cobra was his pet.

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<v Speaker 3>But why are we talking about cobras? I get the

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<v Speaker 3>willies when I see one of those suckers, and I

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<v Speaker 3>love snakes. But then again, in the West, the evil

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<v Speaker 3>nature of cobra's has been marketed to us hard for

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<v Speaker 3>the last fifty years. I'd even say that my generation

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<v Speaker 3>received the brunt of that marketing. Aside from the biological

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<v Speaker 3>fangs and venom, their symbols of villainous evil, and depending

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<v Speaker 3>upon how old you are, you'll remember the terrorist Cobra

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<v Speaker 3>organization of the g I. Joe World, And in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty one, Indiana Jones faced off with a monocled cobra

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<v Speaker 3>in Raiders of the Lost Arc. In nineteen eighty six,

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<v Speaker 3>Sylvester Stallone wrote and produced a movie called Cobra. But

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<v Speaker 3>the cobra Kidjoe from Karate Kid was the epitome of evil.

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<v Speaker 3>Those guys were bad news.

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<v Speaker 5>What is that way?

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<v Speaker 7>I can't hear you.

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<v Speaker 3>Cobras are clearly symbols of evil, but they've come by

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<v Speaker 3>their reputation honestly. The World Health Organization reports as many

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<v Speaker 3>as two point seven million people are envenomed by snakes

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<v Speaker 3>each year. Some are bitten by venom of snakes but

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<v Speaker 3>not envenomed, but up to four hundred thousand people are

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<v Speaker 3>permanently disabled, like having amputations. In eighty one to one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and thirty eight thousand people die globally from snake

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<v Speaker 3>bites each year. Granted, not all of these are cobras,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's certainly big players in Africa in Asia.

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<v Speaker 4>But what do cobras have to do with America?

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<v Speaker 3>And what do they have to do with the midwestern

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<v Speaker 3>town of Springfield, Missouri.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so show me what you got.

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<v Speaker 5>Here, all right? So what I did. I went through

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<v Speaker 5>our archives and just put in the word cobra. And

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<v Speaker 5>this is some of the things that popped up during

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<v Speaker 5>that time of the after the cobras got They actually

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<v Speaker 5>added a cobra's snake to the city of Springfield seal. Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>so it circles around the shield that's in the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of the seal.

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<v Speaker 4>What year did they do that?

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<v Speaker 5>They did it in fifty four. That next year after.

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<v Speaker 3>That, they put a cobra on the seal of a

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<v Speaker 3>town in the Ozark Yeah. Yeah, did he just say

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<v Speaker 3>cobra scare and that his town has a cobra on

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<v Speaker 3>their seal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in downtown Springfield, Missouri, at the History Museum on

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<v Speaker 3>the Square, eight thousand miles away from the cobra's native

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<v Speaker 3>home range. This place feels like the Missouri Smithsonian sacred

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<v Speaker 3>ground for the Show Me State. And I'm speaking with

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<v Speaker 3>the president Emeritus, John Steller. He's a good sized man

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<v Speaker 3>wearing a gray sweatshirt with the collar of a polo visible.

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<v Speaker 3>His white mustache is well trimmed, and he's got a

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<v Speaker 3>tidy office. I'm looking over his shoulder onto his computer screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Some thing in this city happened involving cobras.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I know.

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<v Speaker 5>But here's a here's a postcard from Springfields. There a

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<v Speaker 5>new home of cobras. The Drm Woods is full of

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<v Speaker 5>them and.

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<v Speaker 3>Says this is like a hillbilly Yeah, like Ozark hillbilly.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And they and even local businesses got involved. They wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to do ads and so on. So there was advertising

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<v Speaker 5>in the magazines and all sorts of stuff. Here's a

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<v Speaker 5>daring and deadly, but it'll go with the new fall fashions.

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<v Speaker 5>That Hester's beauty salon on Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>The cobra haircut here in Springfield. Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>So here's the big time. This is uh. This is

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<v Speaker 5>the article of the two page article in Life magazine about.

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<v Speaker 4>This was in the national Yeah, in the.

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<v Speaker 5>Life magazine, which would be like being on national news.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, okay, here's the scoop.

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<v Speaker 3>In the late summer of nineteen fifty three, multiple Indian

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<v Speaker 3>monocled cobras were killed in the city limits of Springfield.

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<v Speaker 3>The incident became known as the Great Cobra Scare of

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifty three. Wild Springfield is a railroad town in

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<v Speaker 3>southwest Missouri. Has a population of one hundred and seventy thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Wild Bill Hiccock killed a guy named Cut on the

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<v Speaker 3>Springfield Square in eighteen sixty five, and it's the hometown

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<v Speaker 3>of Brad Pitt. It's not entirely relevant, but it's important

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<v Speaker 3>to note that Missouri is officially the Midwest, even though

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<v Speaker 3>the southern one third of Missouri is the Ozarks, and

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<v Speaker 3>where I live in Arkansas, which is also the Ozarks,

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<v Speaker 3>is considered the South. Just some clarity. I'm now headed

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<v Speaker 3>to Mother's Brewery and Springfield to talk with Kyle Jeffreys.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the liaison of the brewery. He's got bushy salt

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<v Speaker 3>and pepper hair and sideburns down to the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>his chi weeks. He's gonna start to tell us what's up.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going back to nineteen fifty three.

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<v Speaker 4>Dwight D.

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<v Speaker 3>Eisenhower has just been sworn as president, the Korean War

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<v Speaker 3>has ended, and Elvis Presley will begin his music career

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<v Speaker 3>A year later in nineteen fifty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, It is just standard summer in small city, big

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<v Speaker 2>town Springfield, Missouri in the Ozarks. The year is nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three. Everybody's just doing their regular thing. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a couple and they're sitting on their porch one August afternoon.

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<v Speaker 8>And they see a snake go past.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously that's not too much cause for alarm for

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<v Speaker 2>anybody in the Ozarks, except they noticed it was larger

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<v Speaker 2>than the snakes they were used to seeing, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't look like I mean, it wasn't a garter snake,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a black rat snake. And so they got

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<v Speaker 2>curious and they cornered it, and they were really concerned

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't know it was so they killed it.

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<v Speaker 8>They took a garden hole and they just whacked it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they got really curious because they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't So they took it to Dickerson Park Zoo,

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<v Speaker 2>the small little zoo here in Springfield, and they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is this And the official of the zoo is alarmed.

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<v Speaker 8>They're like, this is an Indian cobra. This is they're

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<v Speaker 8>not native to this continent.

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<v Speaker 2>And too they are deadly, quite venomous, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>an anomaly, and so at this point it's not anything

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<v Speaker 2>that becomes part of like public alarm or public concern,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is puzzling until another one is found and killed.

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<v Speaker 2>And at this point you have two Indian cobras in Springfield, Missouri.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, now it starts to get some public

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledgement and people start to become except over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of the next six weeks, they're going to end up

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<v Speaker 2>killing eleven of these cobras.

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<v Speaker 3>Indian cobras in Middle America. And Kyle was right. They

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<v Speaker 3>killed eleven, but they also caught one alive, making the

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<v Speaker 3>grand total of twelve of these global bad boys in Springfield.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's John.

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<v Speaker 5>It actually started in August when the first snakes started

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<v Speaker 5>to appear, and they were odd snakes. Nobody knew what

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<v Speaker 5>they were. These snakes would raise up and like raise

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<v Speaker 5>up high out of the grass and strike at you.

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<v Speaker 5>And they'd never seen snakes like that before.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was probably before the cobra was really famous

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<v Speaker 3>in America.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my goodness, Yeah, I mean and then night did

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<v Speaker 5>you know you didn't, We didn't. We had just gotten

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<v Speaker 5>our first TV station that spring, Channel ten came on

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<v Speaker 5>the air in the spring of fifty three, so we

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<v Speaker 5>had one TV station and it was only on part

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<v Speaker 5>of the time, so.

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<v Speaker 4>People might have only heard of Cobra as maybe any.

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<v Speaker 5>Been a movie or something like that, and not everybody,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, not everybody was involved in that. They knew

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<v Speaker 5>about snakes, but they didn't know about cobs. It's from,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the far East, and so they couldn't figure

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<v Speaker 5>out why it was here. But they suspected rail Mauer

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<v Speaker 5>because of his dealing and all these odd animals, and

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<v Speaker 5>it was like a block from his house. So it

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<v Speaker 5>was right there at the corner of National and Saint

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<v Speaker 5>Louis Street.

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<v Speaker 3>John just introduced the man with a smoking gun in

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<v Speaker 3>his hand, Rao Maur. These snakes were turning up close

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<v Speaker 3>to this guy's house and business.

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<v Speaker 5>Rail Mauer had a pet shop in the sixteen hundred

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<v Speaker 5>block of Saint Louis Street and in a house, just

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<v Speaker 5>in a house. But he was he was not very

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<v Speaker 5>disciplined in how he took care of his animals. They

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of ran wild. I mean there was chimpanzees

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<v Speaker 5>running around biting people, and there was two cans flying

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<v Speaker 5>and there was stuff everywhere. But he did a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of dealing with the local kids kids would catch garter

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<v Speaker 5>snakes and stuff like that and bring him to him

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<v Speaker 5>and trade him for tropical fish. He did a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of trading with the little kids around and so he

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<v Speaker 5>was well known in the neighborhood up there, but nobody

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<v Speaker 5>knew that he had anything, you know, really really dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>On August fifteenth, the first snake was killed, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was also brought to rail Maur to help identify it

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<v Speaker 3>and to see if it was his, but he denied

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<v Speaker 3>that it was a cobra and denied that it was his.

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<v Speaker 3>He said it was a native snake with abnormal markings,

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<v Speaker 3>but others I did it as nausea kwafia. The monocled

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<v Speaker 3>cobra or the Indian cobra. Monocled means that it has

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<v Speaker 3>one circle on the back of its head. A week later,

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<v Speaker 3>on August twenty second, at fourteen twenty one East Olive,

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<v Speaker 3>a four foot cobra was killed with a hoe.

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<v Speaker 4>He was taken to the local high.

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<v Speaker 3>School science teacher, who confirmed it was an Indian monicle cobra.

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<v Speaker 3>The second one in a week on August thirty first,

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<v Speaker 3>Cobra number three is run over by a car. On

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<v Speaker 3>September third, a city in Florida ships one dose of

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<v Speaker 3>antivenom to the hospital in Springfield. On September eighth, some

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<v Speaker 3>kids find cobra number four in their yard. September ninth,

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<v Speaker 3>Number five is killed. On September tenth, police do a

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<v Speaker 3>full search of rail Maer's pet shop, and snake graffiti

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<v Speaker 3>starts to show up around the town as the city

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<v Speaker 3>goes into lockdown. Things have gotten completely out of hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>I've met people who lived through it and they talk it.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like, it ruined my summer vacation because your

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<v Speaker 2>parents wouldn't let you go outside and play.

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<v Speaker 8>Here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the last month of summer vacation for all these

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<v Speaker 2>school children in Springfield, and they're not allowed to enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>it because you don't know when you're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>tacked bitten by an Indian cobra.

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't it be cool to talk to someone who lived

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<v Speaker 3>through the cobra scare? I may know a guy, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>I was, I was here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I grew up four blocks from where this all happened.

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<v Speaker 5>And my parents, my mother especially just knew that the

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<v Speaker 5>cobras were coming to get her children. And it was

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<v Speaker 5>the hottest it's the hottest summer on record in Springfield,

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<v Speaker 5>and it had gotten up to one hundred and thirteen

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<v Speaker 5>here that year. But we were locked up in the

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<v Speaker 5>house and no air conditioning, locked up in the house,

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<v Speaker 5>windows down door shut because we weren't letting snakes get in.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was Yeah, there's not much that I don't

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<v Speaker 5>remember about that summer in nineteen fifty three. I was little,

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<v Speaker 5>but I still, I still. I was born forty nine,

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<v Speaker 5>I was four years old, and I still remembered. It

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<v Speaker 5>was one of my earliest memories.

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<v Speaker 3>By the middle of September, things are spinning out of control.

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<v Speaker 3>A man named LH. Stockton chunked a rock at Cobra

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<v Speaker 3>number six before it went under his house.

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<v Speaker 4>Then police used tear.

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<v Speaker 3>Gas to smoke it out, dispatching it with their pistols

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<v Speaker 3>when it tried to escape in the man's yard. On

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<v Speaker 3>September eleventh, Vigilantis threatened to burn down the pet shop

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<v Speaker 3>and Springfield police guard rail Maoer's house. He still claims

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<v Speaker 3>his innocence, offering to help the city catch the cobras.

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<v Speaker 3>By now, the Cobra scare is starting to get international attention.

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<v Speaker 3>On September seventeenth, Cobra number seven is run over on

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<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis Street and Cobra number eight was killed by

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<v Speaker 3>bird dog.

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<v Speaker 4>The city is spinning out of control. Here's Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>So at that point, Springfield had just instituted in the

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<v Speaker 2>municipal government a position called city manager. The first guy

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<v Speaker 2>to hold that. He was the first city manager. Basically

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<v Speaker 2>everybody turns to him and like, all right, city manager,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about this? And nobody has any

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<v Speaker 2>idea what to do about it? What can you do

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<v Speaker 2>about it? Nobody even knows where it's coming from, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>knows how many they're going to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be, you know, inexperienced. As they were city health head

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<v Speaker 5>of the health department. They began to try to come

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<v Speaker 5>up with ways to capture these snakes, and they came

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<v Speaker 5>up with an idea. They said, well, you know, we've

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<v Speaker 5>seen movies of snake charmers and they're playing these flutes

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<v Speaker 5>and there, and the snake comes up out of the

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<v Speaker 5>basket and the whole thing. So they think those snakes

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<v Speaker 5>must like that music. So they got a truck with

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<v Speaker 5>a big speaker on the roof wow, and drove it

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<v Speaker 5>slowly around town with a big group of guys with

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<v Speaker 5>hose and shovels and picks and stuff behind it driving.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't a joke, no playing.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're looking at a photograph, a black and white

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<v Speaker 3>photograph of a what make of vehicles?

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<v Speaker 5>That's a Ford, that's Afford Sedan, what they called the

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<v Speaker 5>Sedan Delivery.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a big like a classic old style

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<v Speaker 3>Nights and he's got these.

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<v Speaker 5>Two big, huge speakers on the roof, and they're driving

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<v Speaker 5>around and there's probably forty guys here behind it, all

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<v Speaker 5>this big group of people policemen out here, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>in behind the plumbing place at the corner of Saint

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<v Speaker 5>Louis and Glenstone. But they had took this car, this truck,

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<v Speaker 5>and they played snake charmer music while all these people

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<v Speaker 5>with farm implements followed behind it walking down the street,

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<v Speaker 5>expecting that the snakes would hear this music and come

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<v Speaker 5>slithering out to their doom. Snakes don't hear. Snakes sense vibrations,

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<v Speaker 5>sakes sense smell, but snakes do not hear. And the

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<v Speaker 5>music is for the snake charmer because he moves rhythmically

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<v Speaker 5>to the music, and the snake is fascinated by the

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<v Speaker 5>rhythmic movement and has nothing to do with the music.

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<v Speaker 5>It has to do with the movement of the snake charmer.

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<v Speaker 5>That the snakes would hear this music and come slither

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<v Speaker 5>out to their dune.

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<v Speaker 4>It.

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<v Speaker 5>But they tried it continuously.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Just driving like four or five miles an hour around

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<v Speaker 5>downtown with this big mob of people behind it, all

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<v Speaker 5>at the ready for snakes to come slithering out into

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<v Speaker 5>the street.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean they tried, They tried everything.

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<v Speaker 3>This is almost unbelievable, but it's true. You ought to

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<v Speaker 3>see the photos. I'll probably post some of those on

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<v Speaker 3>my Instagram. But we need to learn first about snake charmers.

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<v Speaker 3>Modern snake charming most likely originated in India. You know

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<v Speaker 3>the cobra and the woven baskets with a man sitting

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<v Speaker 3>cross legged playing a flute in front of it. Snake

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<v Speaker 3>charmers were historically known as magicians and healers, making a

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<v Speaker 3>living with these public exhibitions. It's an ancient tradition that's

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<v Speaker 3>been outlawed in many places, but still practiced across North Africa,

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<v Speaker 3>the backwoods of India.

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<v Speaker 4>It's illegal there, but they still do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Some Lakistan, Bangladesh Sri Lanka, Malaysia, and I don't fully

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<v Speaker 3>understand the cultural significance of it. But think about this

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<v Speaker 3>for a minute. What if an overalled hillbilly imagine someone

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<v Speaker 3>like a Brent Reeves carrying around a timber rattler in

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<v Speaker 3>a grain bucket and playing a banjo, will that rascal

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<v Speaker 3>coiled up and rattled within striking distance.

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<v Speaker 4>Bros. I would be into that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm kind of saying this tongue in cheek, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm quite serious too. That would be a compelling cultural image.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm not into this, but perhaps somehow it's in

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<v Speaker 3>the same family as these American snake handling churches. I

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<v Speaker 3>can only imagine what it's like for those snake charmers.

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<v Speaker 4>It really is dancing with death.

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<v Speaker 3>However, there's more to this Springfield snake charming stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's interesting is is I was lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 2>meet the children of that city manager, and they had

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<v Speaker 2>a scrapbook with every clipping in every news article from

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<v Speaker 2>when this happened, historical documents, editorial cartoons in the local paper,

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<v Speaker 2>the Newsleader that were about the cobra scaring things. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that you find out when you

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<v Speaker 2>go a little deeper into this story, is nobody in

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<v Speaker 2>the city actually believed that playing snake charming music was

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring snakes out and then they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to kill them. But they had to do something to

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<v Speaker 2>show the people that they were trying to deal with this,

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<v Speaker 2>even though nobody knew how to deal with this. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the van playing snake charming music. It's easy

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<v Speaker 2>to laugh at now, but less than like, they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>naive and they weren't trying to throw this weird hail

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<v Speaker 2>Mary pass and the snake charming music would bring them out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really just ab out showing the city that

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<v Speaker 2>they were willing to try anything at all.

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<v Speaker 3>So they this goes all the way back to like

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<v Speaker 3>grassroots city politics and small town America in the nineteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just wanting to show the people that were concerned,

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<v Speaker 3>we're trying. And I wonder where they would have seen that,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's the question I have. Nineteen fifty three people

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<v Speaker 3>would have just started getting televisions. I mean, a Cobra

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<v Speaker 3>would have been They certainly didn't have the worldwide fame

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<v Speaker 3>that they now have, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like what they would have seen them in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie maybe yeah, Tarzan or some kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>action movie that Saturday matinee where you would go plunk

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<v Speaker 2>down your dime and see two movies and maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>see a cobra in there, and it was probably a

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<v Speaker 2>rubber one on a wire that somebody was dragging along.

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<v Speaker 8>Nobody had any idea, right.

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<v Speaker 3>This idea of an Indian snake charmer was strong enough

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<v Speaker 3>world wide that they were like, this is how you

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<v Speaker 3>catch Kobra's right, or at least that's the way the

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<v Speaker 3>masses thought. And then the city government was like, we

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<v Speaker 3>got to do something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, these the people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's now mid September, this has been going on for

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<v Speaker 3>a month, and we're in the heart of the Great

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<v Speaker 3>Cobra Scare of nineteen fifty three. Everyone suspects rail Maur,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's still a mystery how the snakes got there

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<v Speaker 3>and got out. It would remain a mystery for over

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five years.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, thirty five years.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a very interesting scenario where a villainous

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<v Speaker 3>beast from another continent was transplanted eight thousand miles away

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<v Speaker 3>to a place where the people were so unequipped to

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<v Speaker 3>handle it. Most places have dangerous wild animals, but the

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<v Speaker 3>culture weaves in appropriate awareness, equipping the people so that

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<v Speaker 3>they're relatively safe and don't live in fear. They have

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<v Speaker 3>venomous snakes in Missouri, copperheads, water moccasins, and the most

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<v Speaker 3>nasty of them all, the timber rattlesnake.

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<v Speaker 4>But people know how to deal with them.

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<v Speaker 3>These people didn't know how to live with Indian cobras,

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<v Speaker 3>and back to our timeline. In mid September, supposedly a

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<v Speaker 3>written manifest was found in rail Maer's pet shop that

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<v Speaker 3>included twelve Indian cobras, so they found evidence that he

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<v Speaker 3>actually did have cobras, but Mauer claimed that they were

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<v Speaker 3>accounted for and the snakes crawling around the town weren't his. However,

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<v Speaker 3>the great Cobra scare climaxes when Cobra number twelve is

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<v Speaker 3>captured alive on October twenty six by a man named

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<v Speaker 3>David Kelly.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's John.

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<v Speaker 5>If it happened today, you'd have satellite trucks parked from

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<v Speaker 5>here to Rogersville, all of them broadcasting live all over

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<v Speaker 5>the world. As it was, we had one reporter from

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<v Speaker 5>a newspaper and one reporter from Life magazine come and

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<v Speaker 5>they used a local photographer to take the pictures, and

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<v Speaker 5>that was the sun toad of it. We were we

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<v Speaker 5>were famous for a day when the Life magazine came

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<v Speaker 5>out and that was the end of it.

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<v Speaker 4>How long did this take place?

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<v Speaker 5>It started in August and the last of it ended

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<v Speaker 5>up in first of November.

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<v Speaker 3>Say really about the time, yeah, September October, so three months,

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<v Speaker 3>and the city was just on lockdown.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, the city was just beside itself because every time

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<v Speaker 5>they saw a garter snake, it was a cobra.

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<v Speaker 3>So this pet store owner, he's the suspected culprit that

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<v Speaker 3>he never he never confessed to haven't had those snakes.

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 5>Not to my knowledge, he never he never owned up

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 5>to the fact that they were his snakes. But everybody

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.360
<v Speaker 5>knew that, they knew, and they pulled his business license.

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 5>He left here. Oh really, Yeah, he left here and

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 5>never came back.

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 4>So then it's just a mystery. It just kind of ends.

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 3>I guess people in the community probably came to their

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<v Speaker 3>own conclusion.

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 5>They came, you know, because he was so loosey goosey

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 5>with his handling of all of his stuff. It was

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 5>an easy assumption and that he just let him get

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 5>away from you. Yeah, yeah, I mean that happened all

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 5>the time with everything out of the.

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<v Speaker 4>So common would it have been in the nineteen fifties

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 4>to have cobras? That seems pretty.

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 5>Far, incredibly uncommon. I mean, how do you get him

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 5>into the country? I don't know.

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I bet I know a guy who could tell you

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 3>how to get cobras into the United States. You might,

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 3>of all people, you might have the answer to this.

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 3>How would somebody in Springfield, Missouri in nineteen fifty three

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 3>be able to get Indian monocled cobras?

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Where would they go?

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 6>Probably out a Bangkok tilean friendship trading company.

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 4>This is mister Fred again. You could have just shipped

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 4>them straight to your house.

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean I dealt with a whole bunch of deal

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 6>I mean a whole bunch of them, and I couldn't

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 6>get I was wanting to get twenty five king kobras

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 6>to do shows with.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's not surprising to you that this guy was

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 3>able to get monocled cobras in Springfield nineteen fifty three.

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 6>That's like not a big deal, bit a boy somewhat.

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.919
<v Speaker 4>Would it have been illegal? There's nothing illegal about it

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 4>with her.

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 6>No, they didn't have a law of pertaining. You see,

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 6>you gotta have something, you gotta have. The laws down

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 6>in the books basically make.

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Much regulation, exactly.

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 3>I take a lot of pride in having a neighbor

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 3>like mister Fred. Did you hear him say that he

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 3>tried to buy twenty five king cobras? But he said

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 3>in the nineteen fifties there would have been very little

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 3>regulation on importing reptiles. Today it's different, but not a ton.

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I looked online and within a few clicks I was

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>at a virtual checkout to buy a cobra, no joke.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 3>My buddy, doctor Chris Jenkins of the Snake Talk podcast

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 3>told me where to find the differing state regulations regarding

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 3>venomous snakes. Some states are very strict and some are lacks.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Some cobras are Internet regulated by Sighte's laws regulating their

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 3>capturing transport. But the bottom line is that without much

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 3>trouble in twenty twenty four, I could legally own a cobra.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 4>But back to our story.

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 3>At this point, we still don't know really if the

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 3>snakes were real maurs from the pet store, and how

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 3>the heck they got loose, If they were, and it

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be until nineteen eighty eight that the mystery would

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 3>be completely solved.

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 4>Here's Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean if you think about it, like so,

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>by fifty four, I mean it's over by that point.

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean one of the things that certainly probably the

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 2>people at the zoo who understood the animals were just like, Loo,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to survive the winner. You know, they

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>this isn't where they live naturally, and so you know,

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>by October they killed the last one. And as far

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 2>as they know, I mean, we've never seen one since.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 8>So by fifty four, I'm sure they were all just

0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 8>like like, well that was wild.

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, two dollars cobra haircut, get it.

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, the town survives.

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 2>The town, of course, ends up kind of celebrating this

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 2>quirky piece of history. But it's still a mystery for

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>another thirty five years. Nobody knows why this happens. It's

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty eight when the person responsible for the cobra

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>scare finally can't live with this any longer, and they're

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>talking to their friends and they're like, I think I

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 2>gotta come clean. And that's when I'm looking right here

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 2>so Carl Barnett, the gentleman's name, Carl Barnett, contacts the

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 2>local newspaper, the Newsleader.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 8>He says, all right, I've got a story for you.

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 3>How about we hear the confession straight from Carl Barnett himself.

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 3>He confessed in nineteen eighty eight and an article was

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 3>written about it in the local paper. But he did

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 3>a television interview in nineteen ninety two with Springfield's k

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Y three station.

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 9>Our last new story of the last forty years was

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 9>one of the first. As we mentioned earlier, Springfield was

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 9>terrorized in nineteen fifty three by a dozen deadly cobras.

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 8>They escaped from.

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 9>A pet store in Saint Louis Streets. Were released by

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 9>a fourteen year old boy who had a special business

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 9>arrangement with the pet store owner.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he'd buy all the snakes I could get

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>our trade meet tropical fish for him.

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<v Speaker 4>Sir, this is Carl Barnett.

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>And one time I went over there and I got

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>this fish. I really had my eye on, you know,

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I'd been watching it for quite a while. So we'd

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>done some trading and I took it home and it

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>was dead. And he just told me he said, well, kid,

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that's just tough. He said, in business, that's you used

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to have to eat. That one didn't like it.

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 7>I said, we're out fifteen cents.

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, plus you know whatever time I'd spent hunting up

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>snakes to do the trading with. I thought, well, I

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>go out back. So I got back there and here

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>was several crates of snakes. I thought, well, mine are

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>in there someplace. And since that's why he feels about it,

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I allays turned mind loose. I thought they were just a

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>black end to go snake that he came in. I thought,

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>well that's good enough, that's a fair trade. So I

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>just left the box open, got on my bicycle and

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>went back home. Next thing you knew, here was TV

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and people running around shot guns, and police shooting garden

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>hoses all the pieces and chopping up blizzards and people

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>afraid to go home. And I thought, boy, any day

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>they're going to come out here at the house and

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>arrest me for this. But I never saw anything. Say Anderson,

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>so to speak, gets the four out of hand.

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Mystery solved. Old Carl did it? Rael Maherd did have

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 3>those dang kobra's in his shop.

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Here's Kyle, the.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Guy who on the pet store had a hobby of

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 2>raising cobras.

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 4>He didn't sell them.

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>That absolutely wouldn't have been legal. He didn't actually sell them.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 2>They were his personal cobras. Why why does this guy

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 2>raise cobras? But he does, and he has this create

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 2>of imported cobras.

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 4>I bet he was kind of a hero. I'm talking

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 4>about Carl. I mean, you know.

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 3>How like just just even if it's kind of villainous

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 3>or even if you're wrong, but still you've unlocked a

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 3>mystery right of a small town. I would I bet

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 3>he was. People were, like, you know, somehow celebrated him.

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I know, like in like small town tradition.

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>You got to imagine maybe he was like the grand

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 2>marshal at a parade or something.

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 4>He should have bet you know that's yeah.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>But actually if I don't know if this is still true.

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 2>So Jerry University just a mile north of here, I

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they still do, but they used to

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 2>have the last existent cobra from the cobra scare in

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>from aldehyde in a jar in one of those cases

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>you get see it. I saw it and I stopped

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, that's it. There's one line and

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 2>it still exists, and at least as of twenty eighteen.

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 2>So if you have a little time and you should say, hey,

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 2>is that cobra still there?

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 3>You better believe that's exactly what I'm about to do.

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm headed to Drury University with my buddy Isaac Neil,

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 3>a Springfield native.

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 4>With some fun city facts.

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 3>We're at Drury University in Springfield, Missouri.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm with Isaac Neil.

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Here.

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 4>We're walking into the Trustee Science Center.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 7>Ye.

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Tell me who went to school at Dreury.

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 8>The one and only Bob Barker.

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Bob of the Prices, Right, the price is right. We're

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 4>to school here. Yeah, we're on Bob Barker Boulevard. Incredible.

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 3>And while right before we got out of a car,

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Isaac points to a what is clearly a large black

0:34:58.080 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>panther statue.

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and tell me what the mascot of Druid University is.

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 8>It's the panthers.

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 2>They're not claiming to be black panthers, but in every logo,

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 2>every statue, it's a black panther.

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 4>It's true.

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>So we're walking into this Trustee Science building and we're

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 3>going to see the one and only cobra. We're met

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 3>at the door by herpetologist, doctor Kevin Jansen. He's leading

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 3>us back to his office. He knew we were coming,

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 3>but I didn't entirely tell him our motivation. All right, great, yeah,

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 3>I guess I didn't formally ask you, do you mind

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 3>being on our podcast?

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Just your voice?

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 7>I don't mind, I guess.

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay, great, Yeah.

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 3>We walk into his book filled office and there's a

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 3>huge glass jar filled with green liquid.

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 4>In it is.

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 3>A coiled, pale white cobra. I wasn't expecting this so fast.

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 4>The climax happened quickly.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:00.439
<v Speaker 7>This is it?

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Is it?

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Holy cat?

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 3>There's a little tag here that says the last of

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>its kind. This is the only cobra known to exist

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 3>from the Frightful Summer of nineteen fifty three. It was

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 3>donated to Jury in nineteen eighty by Sheriff Mickey Owen.

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 3>A bullet wound is visible about four inches behind the hood.

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 3>The event was featured in Life magazine.

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 10>Wow, and you can see the bullet wound home.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Mark bullet wound.

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I am, I'm surprised at I mean, this is seventy

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 3>years old. From nineteen fifty three seventy one years. I'm

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 3>surprised at how well it's preserved. So it's in this

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 3>like glass jar. What what's an end for maladanised? Tell

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 3>me about this is an Indian cobra.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 7>It is it's a monocled cobra. Monocled.

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:58.959
<v Speaker 10>Let's see there's single circle as another circle in the back. Yeah,

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 10>there's a it's it's part of a larger spectacled cobra group.

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 10>This is a pretty good sized individual for that species.

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 10>It's not like the king cobra that can get up

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.879
<v Speaker 10>to you know, multiple meters long.

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 7>How long?

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 4>How big do you think that snake is.

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 7>It's a little over a meter.

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 10>It would have had some ish, Yeah, it would have

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 10>had some decent venom in it.

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 4>So where would this snake be?

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 7>Native to India? India? India. They're active hunters for the

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:30.879
<v Speaker 7>most part.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 10>They they're moving their daytime and so we think in

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 10>the US we think of venomous snakes as having that

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 10>sweet pupil eyes. That's just a nocturnal trait, right, So

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 10>when you see a snake with round pupils, that generally

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 10>means their daytime hunters. So you'll see racers and coach

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 10>whips and rat.

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 7>Snakes out of that.

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 4>Does it mean that it's venomous?

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 7>Not at all.

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 3>But it just happens that our venomous snakes are nighttime hunters,

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 3>so we have we can.

0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 4>Teach our kids. If it's got slats.

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 11>In his eyes, it's venoms here in many states, yes,

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 11>but you get further south, even in the US, and

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 11>you can you can get round pupiled venomous snakes right absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>And my whole world was just a house of cards.

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<v Speaker 4>So one of my children are alive today after all

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<v Speaker 4>that I've taught.

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<v Speaker 7>Them well, and you I apologize for insulting your parenting skills.

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<v Speaker 3>That's some good info on Cobra's doctor Jansen, did you

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<v Speaker 3>hear that round eyes don't always mean non venomous and

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 3>slit eyes don't always mean venomous.

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<v Speaker 4>That's news to me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I want to get into a more philosophical question

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<v Speaker 3>of why any of this matters?

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<v Speaker 4>Why do we remember unique and wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Stories and this whole Cobra scarre nobody was bitten, yet

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 3>seventy years later, we're still talking about it. In Springfield

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be pretty proud of the great Cobra Scare.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Kyle and I talking it over. I'm still searching

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<v Speaker 3>for the real concrete answer of why this stuff is important,

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<v Speaker 3>because me and you both agree that it is. But

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like people are always looking for identity, and

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 3>identity comes from differentiation, Like in this mass of people,

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<v Speaker 3>really it's our differences and in some way, and that

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<v Speaker 3>might sound divisive, but in this way, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a positive thing. It's not divisive, But it's the things

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<v Speaker 3>that make us different that sometimes are like, hey, this

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 3>is who we are because nobody else has this thing.

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 3>So maybe these little obscure stories which probably could be

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<v Speaker 3>scaled down from like nations to states, to cities, to

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 3>neighborhoods to families, we all have these unique stories that,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, are truly yours and no one else

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<v Speaker 3>has it. Like no one else in America has a

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<v Speaker 3>regional Cobra scare it.

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<v Speaker 8>It's absolutely that.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, like it's not really like the visit, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, neatness, right, It's just like, oh, this is ours. Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>we're Springfield, Missouri, and I mean we don't have something

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<v Speaker 2>like Niagara Falls.

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle and Mother's Brewery did something special in twenty seventeen

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 3>when they were naming one of their brews. I'll give

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<v Speaker 3>you one guess what they named it.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're a brewery in the Ozarks and you want

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<v Speaker 2>to claim Erosark heritage, the natural choice is we love

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 2>our mountains, we love our streams, our lakes, we like hiking,

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 2>we like canoeing, floating, all of these things. But we

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 2>wanted something a little different. It was just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like this deep dive into who we were as a

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Springfield brewery and who Springfield is. And I remember us

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<v Speaker 2>just all sitting around and brainstorming on it, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were just like, what's something that's just so Springfield that

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<v Speaker 2>nobody else can claim it? And I think it was David,

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 2>our head brewer at the time, who was like the

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Cobra scare man, and it just hit us. We were like,

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 2>nobody else can claim this, this is purely Springfield. And

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>part of the thinking on our end is every town

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<v Speaker 2>has something like this that's uniquely their own. Anywhere you go,

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to somebody from this small town, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>something that belongs to that town and nobody else.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 8>And so this idea of like lore, this kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of like common history, where your town's story is unique.

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 2>But we all have those stories to.

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<v Speaker 8>Share with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we chose the Cobra Scare. That's what we

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 2>wanted to like.

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Honor Kyle and the brewery have tapped into this idea

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 3>of regional identity. I think this stuff is pretty important,

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 3>especially for people who are prone to be connected to place.

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I find that some people are and some people aren't

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 3>as much. What happened that's unique in your town? Tell

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 3>me about it. I think that's a pretty unique name

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 3>for a drink, too, Cobra scare.

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 4>That just has a ring to it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to deny, but you know what, Springfield is

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 3>a pretty unique town.

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 4>But just in the.

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Last three years, I've come to learn that Springfield is

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<v Speaker 3>known as the Queen City of the Ozarks, which came

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<v Speaker 3>to me as a complete shock. As you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>from the southern Ozarks. I mean, how is this even regulated?

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Who approved this name being in Missouri? Maybe I'm just

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 3>a little jealous. I need some help understanding this from John.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you tell me why it's the Queen city and

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 3>quantify that for me?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, calling something the Queen city of wherever was aggrandizing appellation,

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 5>something that you added to the name there's queen cities

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 5>all over the country. There's Queen City of the Ohio Valley,

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 5>and there's a Queen City of New England. There's a

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 5>Queen City of this and the Queen City of that

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 5>Queen city. These all started in the late eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 5>and ours came about at a speech celebrating the centennial

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<v Speaker 5>of our country in eighteen seventy six given man man

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<v Speaker 5>named Simpronius Boyd Pony Boyd. He was actually the judge

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 5>at the trial when wild Bolt Hiccock was tried for

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 5>the shooting on the squad. But Simpronius Boyds was speaking

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 5>at Dry University Dury College at that time about the

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 5>centennial at a big celebration, and he called it the

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 5>Queen City of the Ozarks. He just dubbed it, just

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 5>dubbed it that, and so from that point forward it

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 5>was used from time to time and time to time

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 5>until finally, by the turn of the twentieth century it

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 5>was pretty much a given that.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 3>So it just was adopted rightly nationally. Springfield is the

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 3>queen city.

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<v Speaker 5>We were, as I said, we were a transportation hub.

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 5>The Butterfield stage line came through here, the railroads came

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 5>through here. This was the crossroads of five different Native

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 5>American trails. We were the stepping off point into the

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<v Speaker 5>Old West.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm still trying to understand a little bit about this.

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Very interested in cities getting these wonderful, wonderful accolades. Yeah,

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 4>are there king cities?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I've never seen a king city like Cincinnati's Queen

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 5>City of the Ohio Valley.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, they're king cities.

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<v Speaker 3>So you think I could if I made a public

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<v Speaker 3>speech like down where I'm from, if I just said

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 3>I dub such and such Arkansas the king City of

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:48.919
<v Speaker 3>the Ozarks, that potentially it would stick.

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 5>Somebody will look at you and go, you've hit your head.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's clear that regionalalied did D is earned

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 3>and not just the fruit of self serving ambitions. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the Cobra Scare validates the queen's city name of Springfield,

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<v Speaker 3>though it happened seventy five years after mister Simpronius Boyd

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<v Speaker 3>called it the queen city. Think this validates Springfield's queenship.

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<v Speaker 3>But hey, long live the remembrance of the Great Cobra

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<v Speaker 3>Scare of nineteen fifty three. I can't thank you enough

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