1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to the Official Yellowstone Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Jen Landon and I am joined by my podcast partner 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: and fellow Yellowstone cowboy, mister Jefferson White. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Hey, Jen, it's an incredible gift to be here with you. 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: As always, we've got a very, very fun show on 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: tap for you today. We feel incredibly lucky to have 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: with us the stunt coordinator of Yellowstone. He's been with 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: us since the very beginning. We've got Jason Rodriguez, Jay 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: Rod the legend himself. I hate to say it before 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: we start, I'm gonna have to run into the other room. 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to grab a cup of coffee, and 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: then I'm gonna be right back. So hang tight, we're 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: gonna dive right in. 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Jeff, do you have your coffee? 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: Yes? Thank you for your patience with me. I had 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: a late night. Yeah, it was a late night. I 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: stayed up late to watch the return of nineteen twenty three. 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: Couldn't wait. It was one of those funny moments where 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: me and my fiance are sitting there and it's this 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: moment of like a fuck, we really should go to bed, 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: but I couldn't. I couldn't sleep. I knew I wasn't 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: going to be able to sleep until I watched it. 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, I have this thing 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: where if other people have seen it and I haven't, 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: I can't. 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: Isn't there a word for that that the young people use? 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: Or it's like a what is it? 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: Fomo fomo? 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: Fear of missing out? 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: Fear of missing out? 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: I didn't catch twenty three last night, but I was 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: up really late doing something oddly Yellowstone related, which was 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: I drank too much coffee and then drank a monster 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: energy and then decided that I had never listened to 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: the anthology of Yellowstone Music on Spotify whoa, and then 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: proceeded to do that until two thirty in the morning. 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: And then after I finished listening, I impulse spot a 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: pair of sneakers. 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: How'd you wind up with sneakers? It wasn't even cowboy 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: boots after all that. That's one of these funny things 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: you work on a show like this, you wind up 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: with way more pairs of cowboy boots than you could 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: ever use. I don't know how to say. I can't. 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: I went through a real phase early in Yellowstone, and 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: now I probably have like nine pairs of boots just 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: taking up my very limited space in my tiny little 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: Brooklyn apartment. 48 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: I know that you have recently moved, but I saw 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: your last place. Then I do have to say that 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: the boots seem to take up an insane amount of 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: space and. 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: It's mostly boots. Yeah, my apartment is mostly boots and hats. Yeah, 53 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: well this is the thing. This is why you got 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: to have a ranch. If you're a cowboy. You got 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: to have a ranch because you need space to put 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: your your boots, your hats, your spurs, your various pairaphernalia. 57 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: It does not This is why it's hard to be 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: a Brooklyn cowboys that most of my apartment is taken 59 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: up by hat boxes. 60 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: I've got to say, it's hard to just fly with 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: only a carry on as a cowboy. 62 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: What do you do with the hat is? 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: What do you do? 64 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: The spurs are considered a weapon potentially, and for anybody 65 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: who you know, buys, you know, or you're gifted some 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: custom spurs, that is not something that you want to 67 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: have taken away from you. 68 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are precious, they're they're an incredibly expensive, tiny 69 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: little piece of metal that it's hard to travel with 70 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: all this stuff, which I guess is why these guys. 71 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: You know, when we talked to mobrings plenty last week, 72 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: he was driving across the entire country. I guess that's 73 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: why cowboys end up spending a lot of time driving 74 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: horse trailers. 75 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I mean I would. I find myself driving 76 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: to Texas half the time now, even if it's for 77 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: a couple of days. I just I get in the 78 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: car flying. 79 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: I think that's a really that's a romantic image, you know, 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: barreling across the American Southwest, nothing but your spurs and 81 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: your hat. Well, it's it's funny you should mention, you know, 82 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: the difficulty of flying with spurs that might be perceived 83 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: as weapons, because this week we're talking about fights. And 84 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: forgive me out there if you're already familiar with this 85 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: phenomenon the world of stunts, there's some specific compartmentalization. So 86 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: stunts encompasses a lot of different things if you think 87 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: about it. Some TV shows are all about gun fights, 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: some are all about car crashes. Some are all about helicopters, planes, tanks, 89 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: military style stunts. Yellowstone really runs the gamut. We've got gunfights, 90 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: we've got car crashes. Sometimes in the same sequence, we've 91 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: got gunfights, car crashes, horse races, lassowing, rodeo. If you 92 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: think about the history of Hollywood, ye, Westerns are a 93 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: huge part of the origins of stunt technology, right like 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: early blockbuster movies. A lot of that is these iconic 95 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: American Westerns, and from the very beginning that involves falling 96 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: off of horses, jumping from horse to horse, getting shot. 97 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: So a lot of the the you know, tradition and 98 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: origins of stunt work and filmmaking stunts also dovetails with 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: the Western world with riding and rodeoing and roping. 100 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: You know what. 101 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: That made me just think we've been fortunate enough to 102 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: have people on Yellowstone who actually were some of those 103 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: stunt people at the very beginning of the Western TV 104 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: film I'm forgetting his last name, but Boots for example, 105 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: who I believe he got killed in season four. 106 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they invented a lot of this stuff. It's pretty amazing. 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: Like one of the cool things about filmmaking is it's 108 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: this constant problem solving, and that's also true of ranching. 109 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: That's also true of the sort of cowboy world you 110 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: got to. Every day is a new day and a 111 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: new challenge and you've got to invent the processes by 112 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: which you solve those problems and surmount those challenges. So 113 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: a lot of the guys working on Yellowstone and sort 114 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: of around Yellowstone and in this world invented a lot 115 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 2: of the techniques that the rest of you know, Western 116 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: filmmaking has employed for a long time. It's so cool 117 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 2: and learning from them has been such a remarkable gift. 118 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: Speaking of stunts, listen, we can talk about this shit 119 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: all day long. Luckily we've got a real expert to 120 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: inform us about it a little later. Can't wait to 121 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: talk to Jay Rod. But in the meantime, Jens, let's 122 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: dive into some of our favorite Yellowstone action sequences. Just now, 123 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: we've been talking about gunfights, car crashes, horsework. Let's dig 124 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: into all of it. What's your favorite walk me through them? 125 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: Putting you on the. 126 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: Spot, Jeff, I'm actually not one hundred percent sure what 127 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: my favorite action sequences are, and I would like hard 128 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: to pick. I would let yes there, it's incredibly hard 129 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: to pick. Also because my coffee hasn't said in completely, 130 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: So I would sort of love if you answered that 131 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: question first to get my brain working this morning. 132 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: Oh don't worry. I'm buzzing. I'm going to talk for 133 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: way too fucking long. We've been talking about the like 134 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: incredible variety and versatility of our stunt performers and our 135 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: stunt teams. One of my favorite stunts on Yellowstone that 136 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: I think a company like encompasses a lot of that 137 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 2: is there's a sequence in I want to say season three, 138 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: maybe season two, where Casey ropes a guy out of 139 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: a truck, which is like, yeah, when you really think 140 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: about what that involves, it's crazy. So we're talking about 141 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: a stunt performer, probably Jordan Warick, if I was gonna guess, 142 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: we all endeavor to do as much and as many 143 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: of our stunts as is safe and responsible, but we 144 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: also all know we're all smart enough to know when 145 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: to tap out and also just for the sake of, 146 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: you know, safety, and for the sake of letting the 147 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: experts do their job. So I think that's Jordan Warick 148 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: in that sequence, who's also been with us since the 149 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: very beginning of Yellowstone, literally tossing a lasso into the 150 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: cab of a truck and pulling. I think he pulls 151 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: the guy out of the window. And when you think 152 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: about like how many disciplines are involved in that, how 153 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: many complicated factors are colliding or you know, God willing 154 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: not colliding in this case. I just think that's a 155 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: remarkably impressive thing. So I love that sequence. 156 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: I say this often, but when we were at the Sagawards, 157 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: for example, and we were nominated for Best Ensemble, and 158 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: they always play the clip, you know, before they announce 159 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: who wins, so much of our clip was actually filled 160 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: with stunt performers. Yeah, because so much of it was 161 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: an action sequence, and the people who who double us 162 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: really are half of the performance a lot of the time, 163 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: because so much of Yellowstone is about making it look authentic. 164 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: And I mean, as the seasons have gone on, we've 165 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: been able to do more and more of our of 166 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: our own stuff, but they help sort of raft what everybody, 167 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: what everybody sees at home. They are in ways half 168 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: that performance absolutely. 169 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: I mean I love to say about my stunt double, 170 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: Bobby Roberts, that he's played Jimmy for as long as 171 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: I have, because my first day on set was the 172 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: sequence in season one where Jimmy gets duct taped to 173 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: a bucking horse and Bobby was there, and Bobby did 174 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 2: that sequence. You know, so me and Bobby our first 175 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: day was the same day. So he's played Jimmy as 176 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: long as I have and some of our performers. I mean, 177 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: it's amazing. A guy like Jordan Warwick has doubled pretty 178 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: much everybody on the show. Whenever they need to tag 179 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: in a bad man to do an incredibly difficult task 180 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: on the back of a horse, they go to Jordan 181 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: Warwick and he doesn't. 182 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, my favorite I don't know if I've said 183 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: this ready on the show, but one of my favorite 184 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Bobby Roberts stories is that, besides doubling you, Beth falls 185 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: off a horse. I think in season one, the gal 186 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: who doubles me, Lindy Gorham, was doing that stunt. She 187 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: fell off the horse. Her hand got broken that day 188 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: the horse stepped on it. She had to go to 189 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: the emergency room. They needed to get the shot off, 190 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: and they're looking around at a group of people and 191 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: the person who is most height and coloring appropriate is 192 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: Bobby Roberts. So when Beth falls off the horse, I 193 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: forget in whatever season that is, that is the same 194 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: person who doubles Jeff. 195 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: That's amazing. He also doubles Zayin in nineteen twenty three. 196 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: A lot of our stunt team works across all of 197 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: these shows. So Zain in nineteen twenty three is played 198 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: by my dear friend Brian Garritty. We don't look so alike, 199 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: but Bobby manages to look enough like both of us. Luckily, 200 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: you don't have to listen to me and Jen, you 201 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: know in awe over this talking about some of our 202 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: personal heroes. We've got one of our personal heroes here 203 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: with us right now, right after they break. We feel 204 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: so lucky to have with us today, a guy who 205 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: is as much responsible for bringing you Yellowstone as anyone else. 206 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: He's been on this thing since the beginning. He's been 207 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: dealing with me and Jen's incompetence since the beginning, making 208 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: sure we're safe, taking care of us. We feel so 209 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: blessed to have with us today. Jason Rodriguez, Jay Rod, 210 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: thanks for being here. 211 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: Jay Rod, Hey, good to see you guys. Jeff, Jen 212 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: thanks for having me. 213 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: Jared, thank you so much for being with us today. 214 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: Where in the world are you What are you doing? 215 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: I am in weather for Texas right now, and I'm 216 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: directing second unit on Civil War sequence for Bass Reeves, 217 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: the new TV show that One on One Studio is producing. 218 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: So we've heard whispers about Bass Reeves. I'm sort of 219 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: as a huge fan of Tailor's, as a huge fan 220 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: of this world, as a huge fan of yours specifically, 221 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: what can you tell us? I think our whole audience 222 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: is out here eager for any tidbits you can give us. 223 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: Well, I can only tell you just the overall show 224 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: is about the real life ranger Bass Reeves, who was 225 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: a sheriff in the Oklahoma territories in the late eighteen hundreds, 226 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: and he's credited with being like the inspiration for the 227 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: lone ranger that we all know on television, and that's 228 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: kind of what I know about the story. I'm kind 229 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: of coming in just to do a specific sequence that's 230 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: a civil war that kind of opens up where Bass 231 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: came from, where we find Bass and stuff. 232 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: This is fascinating because you know, viewers of Yellowstone, people 233 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: who've maybe seen eighteen eighty three, seen nineteen twenty three, 234 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: are starting to get a sense of how diverse your 235 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: skill set is. So in for instance, season four, episode 236 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: one of Yellowstone, we've got Casey with the assault rifle 237 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: smashing an suv into a panel van and now you're 238 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: describing to us shooting a civil war sequence for bass Reeves. 239 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: So will you talk about you know, what's the same, 240 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: what's different? 241 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I I've been doing this for thirty years, Jeff, So, 242 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I know I look much younger than that, but. 243 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: You really do I want people. 244 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: But I've been around man, Yeah, and so so I've 245 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: gathered you know, all these all those different skill sets 246 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: of you know, being a stuntman and stunt coordinator, so 247 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: I can coordinate not just westerns h you know, uh, 248 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: driving sequences, gunfights and like that. Which, by the way, 249 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: that the episode one, that gunfight was one of my 250 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: favorite still sequences to do of all a Yellowstone that 251 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: we've done. It was really fun. And then just this 252 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: last season the uh the when they were trying to 253 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: steal the wild horses in Casey and his crew come 254 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: over with the helicopter and all the horses charging through there, 255 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: that was that was an amazing experience too. It was 256 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: it was fun. And that's what I love about Yellowstone 257 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: is we do everything pretty much for real and real 258 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: time and not a lot of not a lot of 259 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, trickery and and we get the we 260 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: get the stuff, you know, real and gritty and and 261 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: how we're feeling, you know, how how it's scripted. 262 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: There's only so much you can fake, right. That's what 263 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm always amazed with on the show is like, you know, 264 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: you use movie magic where you can you fake it sometimes, 265 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: but on Yellowston, but it does seem like we come 266 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: across a lot of sequences where, ah, shit, the best 267 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: way to do this is to just do it. And 268 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: I'm thinking perhaps a little bit about the Cowboy Poker sequence. 269 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: Do you remember this? I think it's season two, episode one. 270 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: Will you talk about that a little? 271 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? That was those were that was an interesting time 272 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: when Taylor wrote that, the producers at the time came 273 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: to be and goes, so, how are we gonna do this, 274 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: you know, and guarantee the safety of everybody involved? And 275 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, we really can't. I mean, We're just 276 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: gonna We're just gonna see what happens. And I'll hire 277 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: the doubles for the actors that they'll all be familiar 278 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: with bulls and bull riding and bull fighting. I had 279 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: two really good bullfighters there, one in wardrobe, one standing 280 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: to the side. And then the girl that took the 281 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: hit from the bull was Duke Wemberley, who I originally 282 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: used in season one to ride a bucking horse, and 283 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: I brought her back to double that girl that gets hit, 284 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: and Taylor, right before we went was said, hey, look, 285 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: I don't need anybody to get you know, just cream 286 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: by this bull. You know, we'll just you just do it. 287 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: We'll play it for real and then when whenever it's done, 288 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: then I'll just rewrite whatever and build We'll make the 289 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: story work around it. And I said, okay, So I 290 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: get the stuntcirt the stunt people together and I tell 291 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: them all that, and Duke looks me right in the 292 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: face and goes, no, it says in the script that 293 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: the girl gets run over. And I go, I know 294 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: it says that, but I'm telling you that whatever happens, 295 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: it's going to be great. She goes, nah, I'm gonna 296 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: let her. I'm gonna let it hit me. So so 297 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: I said, okay, fine, just do whatever you want. I 298 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: don't care, like you know, don't die. So she went out. 299 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: So she she sat there teeth gritted the entire time, 300 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: head down, back to the bull, and he came and 301 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: made a bee line for and ran the absolute length 302 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: ever and she she got up, ran to the fence. 303 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: Everything was fine and we got a really good sequence 304 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: out of it. But that's kind of how we do 305 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: stuff on this show, you know. It's just kind of like, uh, 306 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: they look at me, how are we gonna do it? 307 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: And I guess we're just gonna do it for real 308 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: and see what happens. 309 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 2: It's so funny. I'm reminded of when John Dutton turns 310 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: to Rip, you know, they're they're they're trying to gas 311 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: up a bunch of wild horses, goes, hey, what's the 312 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: plan here? And Rip goes, you know, Sarah, I figured 313 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: just kind of fuck. 314 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: It, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had. That's kind 315 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: of the attitude. Christian and Boris and I have this 316 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: kind of inside joke where we'll set these things up 317 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: and then the helicopter will come up over the hill 318 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 3: and the guys will be charging after the loose horses, 319 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: and then the thieves will do this and we'll circle 320 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: them around and we'll jump into the water and then 321 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: we both look at each other and go all right, ready, yeah, no, 322 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: it'll never work. It's gonna be great. And and then 323 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 3: and that's kind of our like our good became our 324 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: good luck charm. Now we always just every time we're 325 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 3: going to do something big and wild like that, she 326 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: and I'll just look at each other and go, it'll 327 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 3: never work. And then and then it invariably does, because 328 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: the quality of the cowboys and stuff and the stunt 329 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: guys that I hire always pull it off and it 330 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: goes great. 331 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: So, Jay Red, I don't know if you know this, 332 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: but when Taylor called me to talk to me about 333 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Teeter and sort of the inspiration for Teter, Teter was 334 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: based on somebody that he knew growing up, and Duke Wimberly, Yeah, 335 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: that was the sort of hybrid because what she did 336 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: that day was crazy. 337 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Duke Duke talks a lot like Teeter. She's very 338 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: very Texas very. Oh, she's great. She's she has the 339 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: she has the funniest like cowboy colocalisms I've ever heard 340 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: in my life, and I've heard a lot of them, 341 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: and she's she's just she's fun to talk to. And 342 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: she did a great job with that. And then in 343 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: eighteen eighty three, she played the drownding girl pulls faith 344 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: off the horse and tussles with her under the water 345 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: and everything. So we call her in for those kind 346 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: of spots. 347 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: I can you talk a little bit? I know this great. 348 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about how you got 349 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: into stunts and growing up doing rodeo and you know 350 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: your your pops being in rodeo and he gave me 351 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: my first roping lesson along with you. 352 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Yeah, what about that? Yeah? Well, for 353 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 3: just my background is, first, I grew up on a 354 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: I grew up on a im Passer Robles. My family, 355 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: my grandfather owned a cattle ranch outside of past Robels, 356 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 3: which we still own. My mom and my niece run 357 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: up today. And my grandfather, her on my mother's side, 358 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: is in the Hall of in the Pro Rodeo Hall 359 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: of Fame, several time world champion. And my dad is 360 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: also in the Pro Rodio Hall of Fame. He's a 361 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: several time team rope and world champion and h and yeah, 362 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: it's true. I had him out there working on the 363 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: show doing a rodeo sequence and Jen was There's when 364 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 3: I first met Jen, and and Jen was learning how 365 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: to rope, and I had her I was kind of 366 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: teaching her, and then I went, wait, I got my 367 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: dad's here, I'll just have him. I'll just have him teacher, yes, 368 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: so and so he kind of helped out. And then 369 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: so when I got how I got into stunts was 370 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: I moved down to Los Angeles because I was doing 371 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: some like local commercials and uh, I was the talent 372 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: and a lot of local commercials and stuff. And and 373 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: I moved down to LA because I just wanted to 374 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: try it in Los Angeles. And I got there, tried 375 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 3: to be an actor for a couple couple of years. 376 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: Didn't really like being broke. It was the same reason 377 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: I quit Rodeo, and because I hated not having money. 378 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: I just hate it. And evidently I don't act very well, 379 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: so I was not I was doing a lot of 380 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: I was doing quite a few commercials. I was doing 381 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 3: all right and commercials. But anyway, I started doing stunts 382 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: on a show called Briscoe County Junior. I doubled Bruce 383 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 3: Campbell and that's kind of how I got my foot 384 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: in the door as a stuntman. And then about a 385 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: year or two later, I went down and worked on 386 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: the Maskazorro not doubling anybody. I was just working as 387 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: a stuntman down there. But I was down there for 388 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: about six months and met a lot of guys and 389 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: that kind of kicked my whole career off. After that, 390 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: it kind of just took off from there. I was, 391 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: you know, I started working really regularly and had some 392 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 3: really good people like Chris hal freddie Hies that kind 393 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: of took me under their wing, and the rest is history. 394 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: Here I am. 395 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 2: I'm always amazed by how it's such a family affair, 396 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: you know, and we found that. You know that Yellowstone 397 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: is about family. It's about this sort of generational family. 398 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: You talk about how your father, your grandfather rodeoed, and 399 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: also your family's on set too, right like your your 400 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: family's working alongside you on Yellowstone. I find that to 401 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: be such a fun and just sort of lovely parallel 402 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: between the rodeo world, the stunts world, our world on 403 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: the show. 404 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: That's what I love about Yellowstone, not only the crew 405 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: and the cast and the store the show. But the 406 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: first season, Wade Allen was the stunt coordinator. He had 407 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: done Wynn River for Taylor, and I was really happy 408 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: that he asked me to come along on the first season, 409 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: and I doubled. Actually, I doubled Casey the first season. 410 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: And that's another whole story, because Taylor would always before 411 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: I would do something, Taylor would joke on I think 412 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: he was joking, mate, he wasn't, but he would get 413 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: on the walkie and go all right, ready to go, 414 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: And hey could tell Jay Rod to look younger and skinnier, 415 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: that'd be. 416 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 4: Great, so so so at any rate, But what I 417 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 4: was saying is when we got when I got that show, 418 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: I was able to take my family with me and 419 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: we packed up every horse. 420 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: And dog and everything and just moved it out and 421 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: and that was great. And you know, then my wife 422 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: started doing stunt. She fell the horse when Gretchen Mall's 423 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: character dies, and she did that. And then she's been 424 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: working on the show, doubled ed and Brolin and doing 425 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: other stuff. And then this year I got to have 426 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: my son Boone out on the set in the branding 427 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: sequence in the cattle drive. 428 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: We got to hang out. 429 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, wrote it. He wants to know when you're gonna 430 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: come play Mario Kart again with it. 431 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: I know we have that. 432 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: We have a Boone and his youngest Boone and back 433 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: er j rod Son's and I play video games with them. 434 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: It was Buck born during season one. Jay ride reminds 435 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: me season two, season two, Buck was born, and I 436 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: just think it's like, what a beautiful expression of the 437 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: sort of family nature. Yeah, your younger son was born 438 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: on Yellowstone season two and now he's along for the 439 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: ride the whole way. I just think that's such an 440 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: amazing thing. 441 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's wonderful. And you know, Taylor's always promoted 442 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: that kind of family atmosphere around there. You know, it's 443 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: it's just been it's been a really it's been a 444 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: great time on so many levels on that show well. 445 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: And it's really interesting. I think, you know, people hear 446 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: stunt sequences, there's this idea of this like separation of 447 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: you know, the show and then the stunt sequences. But 448 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 2: I think Yellowstone, more than any show I've ever worked on, 449 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: there's this incredible sort of blurring of those boundaries, you know, 450 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: because we have in our cast, we have guys with 451 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: a lot of stunt exp experience, and then a lot 452 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: of our sort of stunt guys have been there from 453 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: the very beginning and are as much a part of 454 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: playing these characters as anyone. Part of what people respond 455 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: to when they think of Rip is Cole's just big, powerful, 456 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: physical presence. And something that's really fun to think about 457 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: is there have been a lot of different stunt doubles 458 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: who have also played that part over the years, who 459 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: have done specific different sequences. Rip has been involved in 460 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: about any kind of stunt you can think of, driving stuff, 461 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 2: gun fights, fist fights, horse stunts, and a lot of 462 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: different guys have stepped into those shoes and contributed to 463 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: that character that we all has become this sort of 464 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: larger than life icon. The same is certainly true for Casey, 465 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: the same is true for Jimmy. More than one person 466 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: has come in and bucked a horse pretending to be 467 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: Jimmy to save my little ass from getting broken half. 468 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: And it's just like, it's such a cool sort of 469 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: the community that brings this show to life is big, 470 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: and I think that it's really the whole thing is 471 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: impossible without our stunt performers. Part of what people respond 472 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: to about Yellowstone is how real it feels, How real 473 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: it feels these exciting sequences. It feels real and those 474 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: sequences look good because we have the best stunt performers 475 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: and stunt coordinators in the world. 476 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 3: Well thanks but I honestly got to hand it to 477 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: you guys, because you guys have worked so hard to 478 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: do is to get as good as you guys have 479 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: on horses. I mean, we did those branding sequences this 480 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: last season. I think I don't think I used a 481 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: stunt person in any of those to drag calves and 482 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: rope and do all that stuff. That was all. That 483 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 3: was all cast members. You know, everybody was just dragging 484 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 3: calves and it was it was a really good It 485 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 3: was a really good time. And I mean, I mean, 486 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: I remember first season when I picked you up, Jeff, 487 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: to take you out to the Cowboy camp in Utah, 488 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 3: and I asked, I asked, so, so, Jeff, you wrote 489 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: been horses or anything? And Jeff just cheerfully goes, nope, 490 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 3: my first day. Go all right, cool, No. 491 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 2: My first rodeo, this is my first rodeo. 492 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: I was not word with Jeff because he's the first 493 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: one to go, hey, Jay Rod, I'm not feeling comfortable 494 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: with what I'm doing right now. I'm not feeling I'm like, 495 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: it's gonna be fine, don't worry about it. It's gonna 496 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: be great. You know, it's gonna be all right. Well, 497 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: cape is because I'm not really I'm not super comfortable 498 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: with this, and maybe we could just no, no, no, it's 499 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 3: gonna be great. You're gonna be fine. 500 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: Don't lie, don't lie. You're always telling me. Hey, Jeff, 501 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: this looks a little too extreme. Maybe we should pull 502 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: it back, and I'm saying no, Jay Rod, stand down. 503 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: Tell Bobby to go smoke a cigarette, no problem. 504 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, keep my double away from me. 505 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: I do all my Yeah, don't worry about that. Take 506 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: a break, Bobby. 507 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: Hey, Jeff, speaking of a break, we gotta take a break. 508 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: I got Jim with the transition. That was incredible. A break. 509 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: But when we come back, we're going to talk to 510 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: j Rod more about stunts. I'm curious about times you've 511 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: actually maybe been afraid on set and how Yellowstone compares 512 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 1: to other things you've worked on in terms of how 513 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: much we push the envelope. So we'll be right back. Okay, 514 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: welcome back, guys. 515 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: One. 516 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, Jeff, have I told the story before 517 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: about how I cried during the branding sequence. Oh, I'm 518 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: not sure if I told you what boring? We don't 519 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: have to tell, but I call it my There's no 520 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: crying in baseball moment from a. 521 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: League of their own. 522 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: I was supposed to heal during the branding sequence and 523 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: I only I'd only headed calves before, and uh, I 524 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. 525 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: And I was so mad. 526 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: And we broke for lunch, and jay Rod was like, 527 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: and it's like lunch, you can go, and I'm like, no, 528 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm good. And I was just like staying on the 529 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: horse and I kept trying and I kept missing, and 530 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: I knew that if I got off the horse and 531 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: looked jay Rod in the eye, I was going to 532 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: start sobbing. So he's just talking to me and I've 533 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: got my hat down and I'm like shaking my head 534 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: and I look up and I catch eye contact with 535 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: him because Jay Rod's a friend, and I start crying 536 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: like the girl in a league of their own. And 537 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't that it was. And here's the thing, Sorry, 538 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: jay Rod, if you have like a real strong masculine 539 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: identity you need to uphold instead of pulling a Tom 540 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: Hanks and being like there's no crying in baseball, jay Rod, like, 541 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: tear it up a little because he's never seen me. 542 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: He's never seen me, You've probably never seen me cryer 543 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: be upset. I'm sort of like an emotion I don't 544 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: really have emotions, you know, I'm sort of dead inside. 545 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: So I think it just caught him off guard. 546 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: You're I it did. It really did catch me off guard. 547 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: And by the way, I was told by you to 548 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: keep this. I was sworn to secrecy on this, so 549 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: now you're bringing it out into the open. 550 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, none of. 551 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: You know, I could, honestly, I could. You are such 552 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: a good you are such a friend, and and uh 553 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: and I could feel your frustration, and it just it 554 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: it made me, you know, it made me feel bad 555 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: that you were feeling so bad. And yeah, I don't care. 556 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm an emotional guy. What the hell, I'm fifty something 557 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 3: years old. I'm going to make any excuses for anything. 558 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: So and it just it moved me that you were 559 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: so passionate and so uh frustrated in the moment, that 560 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: you cared so much that uh, I mean because a 561 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: lot of actors would just like miss them and they go, oh, 562 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: well that's where my stun double takes me cared and 563 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: they don't care, but you just like wanted to do it, 564 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: so man. 565 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: And then we hung in there and then it worked. 566 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it worked. You got one and you drug it, 567 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: and I was behind I was behind the I was 568 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 3: behind the monitor with Christina. And when you caught one 569 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 3: and you're dragging it to the fire, I was like 570 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: jumping up and down, like I was so happy for 571 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: you to, you know, have the success that you did, 572 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: and I knew it would turn out good. But yeah, 573 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: it was a definitely a more even a bonding experience 574 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: jeh and I. 575 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: See this is funny because when I broke down and cried, 576 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: jay Rod slapped me in the face. He put me 577 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: in a headlock and gave me a nuggie for fifteen 578 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: minutes production. We had to go on a break because 579 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 2: Jason gave me a nuggie for fifteen minutes. 580 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: Jay Red, I don't know if you can't answer this question. 581 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: Have there ever been moments on set like has there 582 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: been or is there a distinct moment where you got 583 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: worried where you went where I mean or that might 584 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: just be a permanent state. But have you had moments that, 585 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: again are out of our control because we do take 586 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: calculated risk. 587 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can't anytime we do something big 588 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: like that. There's a sequence where he chased buffalo at night, 589 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: and that that sequence worried me just because it was 590 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 3: night through this pasture and we couldn't you know, the 591 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: devils are chasing this buffalo and they run fast. I mean, 592 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: when you're chasing a buffalo, you're it. You're going as 593 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: fast as your horse can pack you. And that kind 594 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: of made me that that made me nervous. The the again, 595 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: the wild horse sequence that we did this season always 596 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: kind of makes me nervous. I always have a Jordan 597 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: work my right hand man, and he's out here running, 598 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: coordinating fasters and doing a really great job. I always 599 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: tell him I will always look at him sometimes when 600 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: I'm nervous and I'll go, here's where I see my 601 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: career flash before my eyes, and he always look at 602 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 3: me and go I hate it when you say that. 603 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: For people who don't know about horses and the things 604 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: involved with that. Like one of the things that I've 605 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: come to have my own healthy fear about that I 606 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: didn't have before, And what has often felt to me 607 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: to be the most dangerous part of the show is running. 608 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Is even just loping a horse through a field that 609 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: is thick and brush that has holes that we might 610 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: not see that seems to be the thing that I 611 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: always because the rest of it, I feel like we 612 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: can control and choreograph and we obviously check those fields. 613 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean we check them and do and 614 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: do our due diligence to make it absolutely safe for 615 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: the horses and the riders and everything. But still, yeah, 616 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: those are the times. Those are the times that I 617 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: just get a little worried about it. But ultimately I 618 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 3: trust our prep and I trust our actors and stuntman 619 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 3: and just kind of don't worry about it. 620 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: My favorite stunt that we did together, j Rod, was 621 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: it'll It'll probably always be the Season three biker sequence. 622 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was on cloud nine by the end 623 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: of that day. I mean, I was tired. We had 624 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: done it, yeah, so many times. But that was so fun. 625 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: And I got to work with your brother, who I 626 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: love who uh yeah he looks you guys. He looks 627 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: like j Rod, but like parallel universe j Like the 628 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: eyes are the same, but nothing else you got. 629 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 3: You got to bite him right he did him? Yeah? Yeah, 630 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 3: that's good. Yeah, Yeah, it was fun. That was That 631 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 3: was a fun sequence and Jen. That was Jen's first season, 632 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: so I got her a double I had I had 633 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: a double for her just standing by because I didn't know, 634 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know Jen yet and everything and 635 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 3: those guys and I remember huh, Denn and Ian going, Hey, 636 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 3: where the hell's are double? I go, I know you guys, 637 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: you'll be fine, and he was going, I hate getting 638 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 3: slammed around and stuff like that, and I go, you'll 639 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: be fine, suck it up, get in there, and my 640 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: stunt guys beat the hell out of them, and they 641 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 3: had no doubles of Jens double standing over there. And 642 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: I knew once I got to really know Jen and 643 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: I saw her that day, I go, oh, we're gonna 644 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: have to double it for this stuff again, because she 645 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 3: just loves it and thinks it's the greatest thing ever. 646 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: I get so mad when I don't have enough fight stuff. 647 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, like this is I live for this. 648 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 3: You scarcely get into the fighting way too enthusiastically, like 649 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 3: the bar fight, this secret the bar fights. This year. 650 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 3: Jen was like she's running around and the rehearsals and 651 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 3: like as she'd dispatched with her guys, she'd grab somebody 652 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: else on the floor and smack him in the back 653 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: of the head. And I mean she owns it. 654 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: J Rud does. And I want you to lie about 655 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: this if the answer is no, But does Yellowstone push 656 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: the envelope more than other shows that you've worked on 657 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: in this sort of horse stunt area? Do we do 658 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: more than other people? And if the answer is no, 659 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 1: I want you to lie. 660 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I don't have to lie. Believe 661 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: this is it's the scripts that Taylor writes require more. 662 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what you want to say balls this book, 663 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 3: whatever you want to say, yeah, to accomplish the The 664 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: and the thing of it is is it's not like 665 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: when you look at it, it's not like you know, 666 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: you think a huge action stuff. It's like Marvel movies 667 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 3: and you know, Michael Bate and stuff like that. Those stuff. 668 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 3: That stuff is very rehearsed, very calculated, very you know, 669 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 3: all the bugs are worked out of that before the 670 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 3: performers even come on and start to do it. It's 671 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: very specific. Like I said, with our stuff, it's like 672 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 3: we just we just do it. We just you know, 673 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 3: throw twenty buffalo in the field and tell the guys 674 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: to go chase them, you know, or we or we 675 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 3: you know, just all that stuff is you know like 676 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: I said, it's calculated in a way that I know 677 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 3: the horses, I know the elements, I know everything, and 678 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 3: I've and I've worked out every possible scenario in my 679 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 3: head of what could possibly go wrong and then eliminated that, 680 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: and so it's it's safe in that regard, But ultimately 681 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: it's uh yeah, I mean when I first started on 682 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: the show, there was a lot of like, we're really 683 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 3: going to do this, Uh this is you know, And 684 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 3: now I kind of I kind of just relax into 685 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 3: it and know that you guys have been trained enough, 686 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 3: and then the stunt guys that I hire going to 687 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 3: be perfect and thing is going to be. 688 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: Great on that friend, Jared, just because you actually are 689 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: such a good director, did you pick up or just 690 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: start thinking like a director when you started coordinating stunt 691 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: things and just innately started thinking about it from like 692 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: a camera standpoint, You had to almost think about the 693 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: scene as a whole in order to know like where 694 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: you were going to put things, et cetera. 695 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's how I like to coordinate, 696 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 3: and I have that background, and what important to me, 697 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 3: especially with the Yellowstone, is not only like serving the action, 698 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 3: but serving the script and the and the the actor 699 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 3: in their in their character and the progression of whatever 700 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: that is. So when even in action sequences, to me, 701 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: it's just an extension of the story. And if you 702 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: don't put the story pieces in or if it rings 703 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: faults with what if it rings faults with the character, 704 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 3: it doesn't do any good to be the greatest action 705 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 3: sequence ever and not not push, not move the story forward. 706 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 3: So I think a lot about that stuff. In fact, 707 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 3: this season, one of my favorite things that we did 708 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 3: was that fight between Beth and Summer because I really 709 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 3: got We rehearsed it quite a bit, and I really 710 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: got to work with Kelly and Piper and we had 711 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 3: these really cool talks about character and what Beth would 712 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: do here and what Summer would do and how, and 713 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 3: it was really a great I enjoyed it immensely because 714 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 3: it was this great collaboration of you know, even if 715 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: it was you know, small stuff. When when Rip comes 716 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: out to break the fight up, Kelly goes, I want 717 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 3: to get off of her, but I think Beth wouldn't 718 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: just like stand up, and I go, well, One really 719 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 3: crappy thing is when you're in mma fight and stuff 720 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 3: and when the bell rings. I go, you can push 721 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 3: off of the push your push off the guy like 722 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 3: he's help, Like you're pushing off of him to stand up. 723 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 3: And she goes, oh that, I go, so why don't 724 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: you just grab Piper's face and just shover her like 725 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: get up using her face to stand up? And Kelly 726 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, that's great, and so she 727 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: did it and it was all you know, it's then 728 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 3: it's fun to see it that it worked in the 729 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: final cut and they acted it so well, and I 730 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 3: mean those girls went at it for two nights, but 731 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 3: it was but again it was back to it was 732 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 3: a it was an ability and a scene like that 733 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 3: to really you really serve their characters, you know, even 734 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 3: though it's a big action, you know, a big fight. 735 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 2: I think that really speaks to that that happens throughout 736 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: the series because you know, there are so many bad 737 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: asses on Yellowstone, but they all have a sort of 738 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 2: distinct personality and that translates into their sort of style 739 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 2: of violence, you know, which is an interesting thing to 740 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 2: talk about. But it's like Rip fights different than Casey fights, 741 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: different than Walker fights, different than Bet, And it's so 742 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 2: cool to see their personalities and the circumstances their characters 743 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 2: grew up in affect the way they engage in these sequences. 744 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 2: I think that's part of what's so gratifying about Season four, 745 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 2: episode one of Yellowstone, when Casey just pops the fuck off, 746 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 2: because you see the years that he spent engaged in 747 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,479 Speaker 2: special operations exactly, you see it for the first time. 748 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: You see that switch really flip, and he goes into 749 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: a completely different No. 750 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can absolutely see that he's been shot out 751 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 3: for real. This isn't the first gunfight he's ever been in, 752 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: you know. 753 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: And yeah, and that's so different than like Rip, how 754 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: Rip handles these things. You know, Rip kind of runs 755 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: headlong into these conflicts, whereas Casey kind of turns into 756 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: this well trained machine exactly. 757 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is a that's not That's what's fun 758 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: about doing these sequences is you get to kind of 759 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 3: think about that. You know, when when Rip, I can't 760 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 3: remember what episode there's when Rip comes in and saves 761 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 3: Beth from being raped by the Beck Brothers, bad guys 762 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 3: and stuff, is you know, he just the guy turns 763 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 3: a gun on him and he just smashes through the 764 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: window and just can continues forward and takes the gun 765 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 3: and slams the guy through the floor. And I mean 766 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 3: it's just that's just how Rip where Casey would have 767 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 3: probably you know, came in and got a good angle 768 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 3: on him and taken him out. You know. 769 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: So it's Rip's not very tactical, just kind of he's 770 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 2: the bull, he's the bowl playing cowboy poker. He's going 771 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: through you. 772 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which is always always fun to work with 773 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: Cole and stuff like that. It's it's it's pretty fun. 774 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 3: My stunt guy's hate doing fights with Cole because he's 775 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 3: so big and strong, and doesn't you know when he 776 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 3: when I say through the guy through the floor, that 777 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: was a guy ritten off it. And I mean when Rip, 778 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 3: when Cole picked him up and slammed him onto the floor, 779 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 3: the whole like it felt like the whole second story 780 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 3: shook like it was. It was. It was not pleasant. 781 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for everything you do for us, obviously for 782 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 2: years and years now. We feel so lucky to have 783 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: you with us. And thanks for taking the time today. 784 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 2: You're a very busy man. 785 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 786 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,959 Speaker 1: I miss you, guys, I miss you. 787 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: It was an incredible gift to talk to Jay Rod 788 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 2: obviously somebody that Jen and I admire very much. If 789 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 2: you couldn't hear it in our voices, we feel so 790 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: so lucky. We also feel incredibly lucky to have you 791 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 2: the listener with us every week. Thank you so much 792 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 2: for being here. It really means the world, and we'll 793 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: see you real soon. The Official Yellowstone Podcast is a 794 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: production of one oh one Studios and Paramount. This episode 795 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: was produced by Scott Stone. 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