1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: The Maniwauk Caves is intended for mature audiences. It contained 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: strong language and depictions of bullying, violence, and sexual assault 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: that some may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. Also, 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: this is an extremely immersive experience and headphones are recommended. 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Maniwak Caves, a production of iHeartRadio, 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Blumhouse Television, and Psycopia Pictures. 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: I drove to Nashville with tears in my eyes. 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: I knew my father loved me. 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: I didn't know he was the love of a monster. 10 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 4: Come on, come on, pick up, pick up, pick up, 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: pick up, pick up. 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 5: Come ontill Campbell, j. 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 6: Julian, where are you? 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 7: On my way to meet LeBlanc and ask her. 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 8: Where are you? 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 9: I have something something new? 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: What do you mean, I have some new evidence? I 18 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: know who did it? 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 7: Okay, Chilien, Just slow down. 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: Now what are you saying? 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 9: I know who killed them? 22 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 10: The beasts of dough to the tree. 23 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 11: To leave. 24 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 9: Ye, the dread saw. 25 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 12: You know we got your bunny Tyler here too, right. 26 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's right across the all and he's already told 27 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 5: us the truth. So what's it gonna be? 28 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: Your story or his? 29 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 5: Now? 30 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 13: Talk James Venture wanted to take them out to the caves, didn't. 31 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 6: He for me? 32 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 8: Maybe so. 33 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 12: Maybe those dark evil games, even God go near their. 34 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 5: Small desperate voices going out. 35 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 12: But I believe someone else did hear, and I imagine, 36 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 12: but he made miss O'Leary an offer. 37 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 5: This is the same scarf here in my hand, I believe, 38 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 5: And you see here why it's been stretched and torn. 39 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 13: Missus solas, I have a little hunched matches the fabric 40 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 13: found at the crime scene, red won fibers, just like 41 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 13: the ones found under Thomas Hedley's fingernails, sturt around. 42 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: Face the scene. You gonna shoot me? 43 00:03:46,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 11: Paul Finch was going to be executed in a matter 44 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 11: of hours for a crime he didn't commit. I drove 45 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 11: to Nashville, and as I looked at the red scarf 46 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 11: on the passenger seat, it triggered something just lodged a memory. 47 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 9: Dad. 48 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 14: It was a memory of the day my father broke. 49 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 11: The fog retreated in the memory of it slammed across 50 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 11: my mind hard and pointed a perfect reprisal of his backswing. 51 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 12: This is your fault. 52 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 14: I remember. 53 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 11: The impact felt wet when he did, it smelled metallic, 54 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 11: and when I touched the back of my lips. My 55 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 11: fingers came back red. 56 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 3: Dead, edible, Have I bleeding? 57 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 10: That's not your blood, boy, I'm your father. Use my 58 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 10: job to protect you. This is all because of that boy. 59 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 10: If he hadn't shown up right after your mother died. 60 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 10: Now I have nose how any boys, was unfortunate mistake, horrible, 61 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 10: horrible accident. 62 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: Sure, sure. 63 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 9: Good. 64 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 10: I should have taught you better, but I was. I 65 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 10: was too soft and let your mother stop me. But 66 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 10: it was a mistake. If someone hits you, you hit 67 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 10: that harder. If only you would have told me, If only, 68 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 10: if only I knew they were beaten, my boy, I could. 69 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: Have stopped it. 70 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 5: I would have. 71 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 10: I would have pulled Bobby Hadley out of his fucking yukon, 72 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 10: get the living shut out of him in. 73 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: Front of his tool rad face, little fucking cat. 74 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 5: Damn. 75 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 10: But I didn't. They want to take you away from me? 76 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 9: That just you just sit down. 77 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 10: What am I supposed to do to you? Can listen 78 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 10: to me. You were gonna step up, step right up 79 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 10: on that stand. You hear me, and you're gonna tell 80 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 10: them exactly what they want to hear. 81 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 8: What you tell. 82 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 10: Them under oath James Fincher killed Deacon and Thomas Hadeny. 83 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 9: What what do you say now? 84 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 10: You saw it happen to James Fincher killed Deacon and 85 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 10: Thomas Adney, But he didn't didn't What did I just 86 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 10: say to you? They wanted to be James Fincher, hold 87 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 10: down Hooper's begging for it, and you you are gonna 88 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 10: give them what they want. They'll take you away. They'll 89 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 10: take you away from me. So better him than you 90 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 10: say away what they want to Men't do that for me, 91 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 10: for your mother? Please, I'm begging you. Don't hear what 92 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 10: I just said? 93 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 12: Do you hear me? 94 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 11: This memory had been so perfectly, so neatly hidden, my 95 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 11: father stepping into the doorway from my room, hesitating, reaching 96 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 11: down and picking it up. The red scarf, the same 97 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 11: red scarf, now tattered and kate to a dirt, lying 98 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 11: here in the passenger seat beside me, and my father 99 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 11: held the scarf to his nose. Still smells Lacker, he said, 100 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 11: it still smells like your mother. 101 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 2: And as I remember this, this image of my father 102 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: silhouetted in the doorway, wearing coveralls and cradle in the 103 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: red scarf, delicate lane is cracked in galowstands. 104 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 11: I knew that he's never left, not completely. 105 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: No, he's still here. 106 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 14: Or what remains of his tortured soul, A gray man 107 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 14: who lurks in the fog of Manawa County, or at 108 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 14: least in the long shadows of my mind, watching trying 109 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 14: to make contact, trying to tell me something. 110 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 8: Of your behind now more until the out of school. 111 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: Good morning, LeBlanc. 112 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 5: I need to see him. 113 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: He's expecting me. 114 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, that looks let's let's not over there, mister LeBlanc. 115 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: I uh, Jesus, Julian, where are you covered in dirt? 116 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: Mister LeBlanc? 117 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 7: And Julian, I was just explaining to Ed that you 118 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 7: may have found something. 119 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: The hell is that a scarf? 120 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 15: That's a scarf. 121 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: Just listen, Alsole, you were under arrest. You have the 122 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 5: right to remain, Okay, I'm sorry. That's my dad. 123 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: I'm not like you. That's my father. 124 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 5: I won't do anything I have to do. 125 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 10: My boh, my god, to take the Smith's car was 126 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 10: found in the gorge down below Orlon. 127 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't Fincher, it was my father. 128 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 7: Julian, I think you should. 129 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 8: Have sitt out. 130 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: I'll get some water. 131 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 10: It was my father. 132 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 16: My God. 133 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 7: I don't need to get these to the lab. 134 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: We don't have much time. 135 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 11: LeBlanc and Joe Campbell pairing materials for the governor's review. 136 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 11: So I left LeBlanc's office and headed for the River 137 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 11: Been Maximum Security Prison. 138 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 3: It's only thirteen. 139 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 11: Miles from the Blunk's office. I went to tell Finch 140 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 11: everything that I'd found new evidence that could save his life, 141 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 11: to tell him that I'd uncovered the truth once and 142 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 11: for all about who murdered Thomas and Deacon Hadley. Julian 143 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 11: hey man, listen, thank you for putting me on the 144 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 11: list today of old days, Finch. I am here to 145 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 11: tell you something, something big. 146 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 17: Come on, man, No, no, no, I'm not kiddings, Sonny 147 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 17: or as a folk. 148 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 12: You're my last visitor after this. They're moving me where. 149 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 17: The death house, and I'm looking forward to the ride 150 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 17: over because it will be the last time that I 151 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 17: get to see the light of day. 152 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 12: So I was hoping for some shine. 153 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 11: It won't be your last. There is still time for 154 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 11: a petition for a of execution, and we. 155 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: Have enough evidence now we can stop this. 156 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 12: Oh no, okay, listen. 157 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: I went to my old house and what I found. 158 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 9: I mean, I'm still trying to understand it. 159 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: Finish backed red scarf. 160 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 12: It found it under the old oak tree, right. 161 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: You talked to Dina. No, how do you know about that. 162 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 8: Shit? 163 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 12: Man? 164 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: You had that fucking scarf on the day I met you. 165 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 5: I don't remember. You really don't remember the red scarf. 166 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: My mom made it from my father. 167 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 5: Not exactly. 168 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 12: I guess that's part of the deal. 169 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 5: What deal? 170 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 11: You're not making any fucking sense. 171 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 9: Finished deal. 172 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 12: It's a deal. 173 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 17: As old as mankind, remember, miss o'larry Finch. 174 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 9: I don't want to talk about that mail deal for a. 175 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 12: Daughter, please Finch. 176 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,359 Speaker 9: We don't have much time. 177 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 17: And all their bloodline to protect her family treat from extinction. 178 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: She sold it. 179 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 12: She sold it to that devil in the caves, and. 180 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 6: Every poor soul descended from that line as forever more 181 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 6: old a debt to him. 182 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: I don't understand. 183 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, well you will. You will remember. 184 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 12: That scarf too. 185 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 17: The first time I saw you in the red scarf, 186 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 17: I thought you was a poser. 187 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 12: I want to or some shit. BETI. I used to 188 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 12: laugh and pick on you for it, because I used 189 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 12: to wear that red ass thing every day, even that 190 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 12: hot ass summer. 191 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 17: You were nice to me. No one else would even 192 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 17: talk to me, hated me before I even said a word, 193 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 17: But you were nice to me. Why were you. 194 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: Nice to me? 195 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 11: All of a sudden, all of my fear and confusion 196 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 11: melted away urgency too. The whole world seemed to stop, 197 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 11: and the past and the future stretched endlessly outward. 198 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,479 Speaker 14: From this point. 199 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: For the first time since we were just. 200 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 11: I dropped into the present moment with them, just the 201 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 11: two of us, momentarily protected from the inevitability of time itself. 202 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 10: Why were you nice to me? 203 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: Because you were alone, you were suffering. 204 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 18: I know what that feels like, when the whole world 205 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 18: is cruel to you and you feel like something is 206 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 18: wrong with you, and like you don't belong, like you 207 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 18: are unlovable. 208 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 12: You had someone, though, someone that loved you. 209 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: More than anything. Strange. 210 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 11: I forgot all about that scarf, but it's coming back 211 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 11: to me now. 212 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 12: My mother, that's right. I thought she made it from 213 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 12: my father, but no, she made it. 214 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 19: For you, maybe while she was dying. 215 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 12: You know, it's interesting how an object can travel through 216 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 12: time and come to represent something completely different than it 217 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 12: once did. 218 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 5: For you. 219 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 12: That scarf was a gift from your. 220 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: Mother, Laura. 221 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 12: Her hands almost skeletal, they shook so bad from the 222 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 12: little mind. She could barely hold the knitting legal. She 223 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 12: couldn't grab through the back of the stitch with her 224 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 12: forefinger and her thumb, so she used her teeth. That's 225 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 12: why it smelled like her lip bomb, the only thing 226 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 12: she had to keep her lips from cracking. 227 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 5: She was so frail there at the end, it's. 228 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 12: Gone pale, all skin and bones and ball, but her 229 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 12: lips they were still shining, and she still smiled wide. 230 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 12: She finished the scarf though something I remember it bout. 231 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 12: She did something to keep her boy warm after she 232 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 12: was gone, to shelter you against all the cold and 233 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 12: all the darkness in the world, and most of all, 234 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 12: to shelter you from the devil from him. She was tough, 235 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 12: though your mother. When the devil came to collect his 236 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 12: debt from Laura Solace, she refused, you know, but that 237 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 12: she refused. She refused, and the devil took her instead. 238 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 12: But he didn't take her right away. He took his time. 239 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 12: He made her suffer. And now that same red scarf 240 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 12: has traveled through time. 241 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: Now it's something else. 242 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 12: Now it's evidence, torn pieces of it were found near 243 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 12: the bodies by the cave, wool fibers underneath Thomas's fingernails, 244 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 12: but the prosecution could never find the article of clothing. 245 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 12: Those fibers belonged to him. They never knew about the 246 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 12: red scarf. Poor Thomas Hadley. His legs didn't work anymore 247 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 12: because of the fall, but he clawed with all the 248 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 12: strength he had left in him, his fingers grasping desperately, 249 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 12: blindly catching hold of that scarf and hanging on for 250 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 12: dear life. Anyway, what once represented everlasting love and warmth 251 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 12: and protection is now just a emblem of death. 252 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 20: But right before she died, your mother, right before she 253 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 20: closed her eyes for good, do you remember what she 254 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 20: told you? 255 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 9: No, tell me, Please tell me. 256 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: I don't remember. 257 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 12: Forgive him, forgive Your father said he's got the darkness 258 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 12: inside him too, said you all did though, said it 259 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 12: was in your blo uh, the family curse. But for 260 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 12: kif him, because. 261 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 5: He loves you. 262 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 9: It was him, Finch, it was him, It was him. 263 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 5: Your dad. 264 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, you do that, didn't you? 265 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 9: You've known all along well. 266 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 12: I thought you might say that. I dreamed you thinking it. 267 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: It's true, isn't it? 268 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 12: I've said too much already. Besides, that's for you to 269 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 12: figure out, Julian, And when you do, you'll you'll know 270 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 12: what you need to do, what. 271 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: Exactly do what I need to do? 272 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 6: Remove yourself, remove yourself from the situations. 273 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: If you know the truth. And why have you never 274 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: said it? 275 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 11: Why are you waiting in this fucking cell until they 276 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 11: put you to death? 277 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 10: Why keep it a secret? 278 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: Why give them what they want? 279 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 9: Why do you want to be their monster when you 280 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 9: know that you're not. 281 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: You're not a monster, Finch, You're my friend. 282 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 12: And it it's taking me a long time to forgive 283 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 12: you after you betrayed me. What did you I don't 284 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 12: have a choice. Those feelings of betrayal are never gonna help. 285 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 12: Forgiveness is a powerful thing. It is the most powerful thing. 286 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 12: I can almost see her now, your mama sitting on 287 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 12: her death bed, devil binder. You had to lean into 288 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 12: her speak because she was too weak to sit up herself. 289 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 12: And she placed that red scarf around your neck, and 290 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 12: she looked you in the eye. Do you remember what 291 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 12: she said? Forgive yourself too? 292 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 19: Mm hmm, Dina, Dina. 293 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm here. 294 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 5: What is it? 295 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 8: I don't know exactly. It's a package. Just got home 296 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 8: and found it here my front steps. It's for you 297 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 8: mey're Julian for you? 298 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 14: Wait, who's it from? 299 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 8: That's from Dollar. 300 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 14: I'll light over right now. 301 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: Hey, Tina, Julian, you look really nice. 302 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 8: I do. 303 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 19: Yeah. 304 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 8: I actually haven't wont to dress, probably since I was 305 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 8: a little girl. It's Grandma's half a century old or something, 306 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 8: got a few mouth holes. But I thought i'd wear 307 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 8: it for the observance. I mean, what are you supposed 308 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 8: to wear to your brother's execution? I do not know 309 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 8: when it's the last time you'll ever see me again, 310 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 8: so I figured I should wear something pretty, just my 311 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 8: abode dress. 312 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 3: There's still a chance. 313 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 5: Have you heard from. 314 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 8: Jill or talk to her twenty minutes ago? The governor 315 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 8: has the letter. 316 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 11: Has he said he wouldn't consider the request. 317 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 8: Hasn't said anything, hasn't responded at all. 318 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: There's still time. 319 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 8: Six hours, thirty five minutes either way, I gotta be prepared, don't. 320 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 8: I'm gonna no you ate religious hub, but he please 321 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 8: say a little prayer for James. 322 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 10: Yes, come in. 323 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 8: Hello, Wait, what are you for real? Are you really 324 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 8: telling me this right now? Oh? My god? Oh, my god. 325 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 8: What okay, okay, what do I do right now? 326 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 12: What? 327 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 8: What channel? 328 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 9: Okay? 329 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 8: Thanks Jill? What there's that been in? They're gonna delay 330 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 8: the execution? Is there not the TV channel? Nun? 331 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 15: As Christians, we can't let a man be put to 332 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 15: death when new evidence has come to light they could 333 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 15: prove his innocence. 334 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 5: Next question, the appeals have all been denied? 335 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 10: Is there a. 336 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 15: President for all appeals have been tonight? Those appeals and 337 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 15: court decisions were made before this new evidence, and we 338 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 15: need to open this thing back up and go. 339 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 8: Okay, I guess I could take this dress off. 340 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 11: Yes, ma'am, it's a nice dress. 341 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 14: Though. 342 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: You look. 343 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 11: Really nice, he thinks, So I don you like. 344 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 8: Sult me just for. 345 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 11: I held her for a long time, standing in her 346 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 11: living room. Outside, the wind began to blow and the 347 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 11: rain began to fall. 348 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 14: A storm was coming. 349 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 11: She gave me the package from Tyler, my name with 350 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 11: her address. He'd overnighted it, a small white box with 351 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 11: only his initials and no return address. Finch wasn't a 352 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 11: free man, but we'd want a huge battle gotten the 353 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 11: noose off from around his neck at least for a 354 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 11: little while. 355 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: Even if the war was still raging. 356 00:28:42,200 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: It felt like a victory. 357 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 11: I drove back to the cemetery. There was something I 358 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 11: needed to do. I should have done it when I 359 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 11: first arrived in Pottsville. I needed to pay a visit 360 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 11: to someone. Mom and Dad are buried at the top 361 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 11: of a rolling hill in the middle a plot reserved 362 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 11: for our family. I took Tyler's package and walked up. 363 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 11: The plot was overgrown with grass and weeds. 364 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: Laura Solace. 365 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 11: The letters engrave that my mother's stone were worn away 366 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 11: from the harsh winters. I sat down beside Mom's gravestone, 367 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 11: leaned my back against it. I could look out and 368 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 11: see all of Pottsville. From here, the white steep over 369 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 11: the first Baptist Church stretching up above the small town, 370 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 11: clutching its crucifix high in the sky. 371 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 14: Toward off the devils and the demons. 372 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: Off in the distance. 373 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 11: I could see where the swirling gray light in storm 374 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 11: had settled into the valley, where the caves were like 375 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 11: a vortex lighting in arcs flashing across the sky. 376 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: Okay. 377 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 11: I peeled open the package from Tyler. The first thing 378 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 11: I found was a handwritten note, Julian, Julian, I've had. 379 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 14: This thing hidden away all these years. 380 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 16: But I been here in my house because they're going 381 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 16: to search the place after they find me. But it 382 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 16: ain't for them. Almost burned it. But it's not really 383 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 16: Minded's or either. It's yours. It's your truth, and it's 384 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 16: your decision about what to do with it. 385 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 5: No one else. 386 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 12: This has all the answers you were looking for. 387 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: Good luck, body tie. 388 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 11: It was a video camera, Sony handycam Mini DV. I 389 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 11: felt the weight of it in my hands, less than 390 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 11: a couple pounds, but I could barely lift it. My 391 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 11: mind was instantly flooded with memories that summer after we 392 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 11: met Finch, all the videos we made. It was the 393 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 11: video camera, the one Tyler used to record everything, everything 394 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 11: that happened in the caves, the night that the Hadley 395 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 11: brothers died. 396 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 9: Hey, Jill, congrats, it looks like we could. 397 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: All take a breath. 398 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 11: I mean, not the doubt come I expected. 399 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 5: Well. 400 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 11: I was trying to hold on to hope for Finch, 401 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 11: but it felt like a losing battle, so I didn't 402 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 11: expect something to actually go right for a change. 403 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 9: I guess the universe is full of surprise. 404 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 5: It's uh huh. 405 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 17: Well, I have. 406 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 7: Another one for you. 407 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 18: Oh yeah, what's that? 408 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 7: If you are driving? I need you to pull over 409 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 7: before I can tell you. 410 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 14: I'm not driving. 411 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 7: James Bencher just confessed to killing Dincon and Thomas Hadley. 412 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 3: M uh wait. 413 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 21: Sleeve so so. 414 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 8: Off, so as I. 415 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 21: Go, Man, you're gonaterry your house down O the first 416 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 21: Thomas Darling Corey she was sing Banks service Fanow for 417 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 21: the four rounder bally E Bangel. 418 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 22: On The Manwalk Caves stars Jonathan Tucker as Julian Sawace, 419 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 22: Eddie Gaftheggy as James Fincher, Clark Peters as Detective Solomon Smith, 420 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 22: Nick Cercy as Sheriff Kirby Hooper, Justin Welborn as Tyler Wilson, 421 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 22: Jill Jane Clements as Jill Campbell, Brad Carter as Dooley Tappert, 422 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 22: Scott Poethrus as Reverend Perkins, Samantha Ashley as Dina Fincher, 423 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 22: Justin Matthew Smith as Paul Sawace, Tara Oaks as Laura Sallace, 424 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 22: Jonathan Horn as Deacon Hadley, Alden Karanovitch as Thomas Hadley, 425 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 22: Mike w Anderson as Griff Washington, Body, Walterroff as Jimmy Fincher, 426 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 22: Brian McClure as Ian Speinks, Larry Clark as Bobby Hadley, 427 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 22: Paydon Fallis as ed LeBlanc, Vic Palisis as William Fowler, 428 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 22: Nick Takosky as Richard Rydell, and Aileen Loy as The Darkness, 429 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 22: with additional performances by Clint McGowan, Dina Dill, Edward Howard, 430 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 22: Henry Foster Brown, Jamie Joseph, Juan Monsalvez, Christopher Curry, Bailey Hineman, 431 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 22: David Mitchell, and Bernard Sataro Clark. Created by Connell Byrne 432 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 22: and Dan Bush. Written by Dan Bush, Zoe Cooper and 433 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 22: Nicholas Dakosky, featuring our theme song Killer Inside, written produced 434 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 22: and performed by Lear Lynn. Our executive producers are Matt Frederick, 435 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 22: Alexander Williams, Michael Monty, and Courtney de Frees. Our executive 436 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 22: producers at Blumhouse Television are g Jremy Gold, Chris Dickey, 437 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 22: and Noah Feinberg. Produced by Dan Bush, music by Ben Lovett. 438 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 22: Additional music by Alexander Rodriguez. This episode features the song 439 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 22: darln Corey, performed by Helena Rose, Edited by Dan Bush 440 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 22: Chris Childs, Stephen Perez and David Chen. Sound design by 441 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 22: Benjamin Balcom, Additional sound design by Alexander Rodriguez. Dialogue editing 442 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 22: and sound mixing by Juan Campos. Recorded at Studio Awesome 443 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 22: in Los Angeles, sound Byte Studio in Atlanta, and Echo 444 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 22: Mountain in Ashville. Casting by Sunday Bowling, Kennedy and Meg Mormon. 445 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 22: Our dialect coach is Linda the Sesti, Assistant director, Michael Monty, 446 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 22: second assistant director, script supervisor and production coordinator Sarah Klein. 447 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 22: Supervising producer Josh Thain. Special thanks to Mary Ellen and 448 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 22: Jason Davis, Jonathan Dieter, and Joe Rickman. The Manowak Caves 449 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 22: is a production of iHeart Radio, Blumhouse Television and Psycopia Pictures.