1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: This week's special guest, we have got Layla Taylor coming on. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: She is from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives season three, 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: and I gotta say I'm excited to talk to her 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: because she is bringing the spice this season. I am 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: obsessed with Laila. Let's get her on, Laylah. Laylah, look 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: at that young face. We were just talking like how 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: young the collagen. Your cuteness, You're stunning even at rest. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: It's just crazy. Thank you, Thank you so much for 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: coming on. 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Of course, thank you for having me. 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: I am just in the drama, babe. There is just 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: my head hurts. 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: But it's it's good. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm When I was getting ready for the podcast, 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: I'm watching the episodes and it's like I wonder, like 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: I'm excited not to finish this, but also to finish 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: so I could watch the rest of it later. 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: I got to tell my husband, I'm like, I need 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: Laylah's number. I really just want to talk to her. 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 4: I just think we have a lot that we just 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: need to talk about. 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: My number. Yes, let's text. 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: Here's what's funny. 25 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Not funny, but I'm curious because first season you were 26 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: obviously there, but like we didn't really get to know. 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: Leila yeah that much second season. 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: If I'm honest, I was not really invested in second season. 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: I was kind of just like yeah, it was just 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: kind of like okay, yeah, but I'm like third season, 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, Laila, Leila is coming in spicy. Was it 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: something for you that you felt like, I'm obviously you 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: want your voice to be heard more, but was was 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: a lot of your stuff cut out in season one 35 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: or did you were you more reserved or was it 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: this season like the producers were saying, hey, have a 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: more voice, or were you like, no, I want to 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: be more in the mix of this drama. 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, it was a little of like two things. 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: One season one, I was going through my divorce with 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: my ex husband. Literally when cameras pricked up. I think 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: I was separated from him at that point two or 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: three months. 44 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: And how old were you in season one? 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Season one? I was twenty That was long ago, goshcho 46 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: I was twenty two in season one, so I was 47 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: just I was a baby. I was just going through 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: so much internally, like I was learning how to co 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: parent and you know, figure out that dynamic. Also, I'm 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: by myself in Utah. I don't have family here, so 51 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: when I'm kind of like going through a hard time, 52 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: it's just me suffering kind of like on my own. 53 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: So I was just going through so much behind the 54 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: scenes that wasn't really shown, and on top of that, 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: just kind of showing up to scenes and talking about 56 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: It's not that anything wasn't important to me, but just 57 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: dealing with girl drama was kind of the last thing 58 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: on my mind. So I was just kind of just there. 59 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: I'm just observing and just trying to survive every day. 60 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: But also things did definitely get cut, especially from season two. 61 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad on the reunion for season two they shared 62 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more of what I filmed during season two, 63 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: talking about mental health issues and talking about like my 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: self harm, scars and things like that. We filmed probably 65 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: like four or five scenes of cutting them and only 66 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: showing the little bit in the reunion. So yeah, it's hard. 67 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: Though. 68 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: We have so many amazing women on our cast, so 69 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I understand when things have to get cut and they 70 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: have to kind of like skim the show down. But 71 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad that finally season thirty people were able to 72 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: see more of me. 73 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: Where are you from? Originally Arizona? Okay, so you are, 74 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: so there is a little How did you get to Utah? 75 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: I moved here when I was nineteen. I just or no, 76 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: actually I was eighteen. I was just right after high school. 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, I kind of just everyone moves here for 78 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: college if you're LDS. It's just kind of like people 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: go to BYU or UVU or one of the colleges 80 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: up here. And I didn't really have a plan after 81 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: a call or after high school. I just knew that 82 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: Arizona would be a hard place to kind of spend 83 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: my young adult years because at that point that's when 84 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: I was still like active in the church and trying to, 85 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, do right in a way. So I was like, okay, well, 86 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Utah would be an easier state to kind of grow 87 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: up in. So that's why I chose to come here. 88 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: That's a very mature decision for someone who's nineteen. 89 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, and I did it on my own too. 90 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: I was originally actually supposed to move to California. I 91 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: was supposed to go to UC Erguy and I was enrolled. 92 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Everything was ready to go for me. To move there, 93 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: and my dad left on a business trip, and without 94 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: telling him, I packed up my whole entire bedroom into 95 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: my little Kiya sol and I texted him. I was like, hey, 96 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: just you know, not coming to California. I'm actually moving 97 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: to Utah. 98 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: So yes, girl, probably let me here you. 99 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: Are and here I am all worked out. 100 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: Can we talk about your birthday party? Since I mean 101 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: that was first episode? 102 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: Can we talk about what you ever saw in Chase? 103 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 4: I did I just know this Chase's brother, No Chase 104 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: originally Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I have a I 105 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: feel like an allergy to him. When I they panned 106 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: to him, I'm like actually having a visceral reaction. Also, 107 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 4: you should know I'm forty three and this is me 108 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: two days ago going I'm not watching this, and then 109 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: also me going, Chase, come, Leila, You're prettier than that. 110 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: I know. I met Chase when I was post divorced, 111 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: so like a very we'll do it, you know, I 112 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: just want to have fun. Me and Chase's relationship. I 113 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: think people have like a very hard time understanding how 114 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I was able to go from Chase to Mason. Me 115 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: and Chase's relationship was the most surface level like thing 116 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: you could even say, like, I don't even I couldn't 117 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: even tell you what is middle Davis. 118 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: I don't know he can either. So that's fun, all right. 119 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: So it was just very It was fun. It was fun, 120 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: It was flirting, and that's all that relationship ever was. 121 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: But you know, the stuff that he's obviously talked trash. 122 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: I actually wasn't aware of the severity of what he 123 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: said about Macy. I have never looked at this podcast ever. 124 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: I knew what he said about me, and I knew 125 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: he talked shit on all the girls, but I don't know. 126 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: I just I am for giving people second chances for sure. 127 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I just wanted to kind of let him have the 128 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to say sorry and try to do better. I 129 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: think I would hate to be held to like my 130 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: lowest moments in life. I feel like I like wives 131 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: for that, and I just tried to give Chase the 132 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: bend for doubt that maybe that's what he was going 133 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: through and was projecting and being a dick, and I 134 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: feel like he can own up to that though. That's 135 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: the thing is that Chase messes up a lot in life. 136 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that he's a perfect person, 137 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: but he's really really good at taking accountability and being like, no, 138 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: that was incredibly fucked up and I'm so sorry, and 139 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: I try to do better. And that's I was like, 140 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm just going to give him an opportunity, give him 141 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: a chance. And I did try to voice to the 142 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: women at the salon the day before my birthday like hey, like, 143 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm there's a possibility Chase will be there, and you know, 144 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: they didn't react that well then. So it was hard 145 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: because I feel like I did kind of sprinkle the 146 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: idea that he would potentially maybe come, and then you know, 147 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: he ended up showing up. 148 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: When you were sprinkling. Did you know he was coming? 149 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: At that point? I texted Kate that I was like, 150 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: I want you to come, and she's like, hey, like 151 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: I would bring Chase with me, and I was like okay. 152 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: And when I told the girls about that initially at 153 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: the sawn that I was like, hey, like, there's possibility 154 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: Chase you come, that's when they like, why would he 155 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: be there? Blah blah blah. And I initially first actually 156 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: uninvited him and I was like hey, I texted Kate 157 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: and I was like hey, like it's going to make 158 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: the girls really uncomfortable. If Chase comes, can you maybe 159 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: just come on your own? She's like, oh, Chase switched 160 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: his flight because he's coming home from a business trip 161 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: to come to your party. And I was like, shit, 162 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: now I feel bad, and again, hindsight twenty twenty, I 163 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: should have communicated to the women. I regret that, and 164 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: I can own up to my part in that. It's 165 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: very hard to communicate sometimes within this group because like 166 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: you just don't want to step on toes, you don't 167 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: want to make someone uncomfortable. But I can see obviously 168 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: my lack of communication did result in the girls being uncomfortable, 169 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: and I can own up to that. 170 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: It made for a very fruitful first episode. Though let's 171 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: be honest. If you didn't do that, that first episode 172 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: falls a little flat, Leila. You were alreadying around you. 173 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: And I like it. 174 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: I love it. 175 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think again, we all have those 176 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: hindsight twenty twenty. You know, if we were to flip it, obviously, 177 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: if I invited someone that I know you didn't like, 178 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: I mean that happened one time where I said it 179 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: did happen, La, person's coming, Yeah, you know, to the 180 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: party because my husband and her husband are friends. Yeah, 181 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: you know, and and I said, I'll do anything for you. 182 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: But if it's really not, you know, let me know 183 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: kind of you know what I mean, But like it's 184 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: it's one of those where it wasn't the Chase City was. 185 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: No, no, is it anything, but if it was. 186 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: If he just randomly showed up. 187 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: I know, if if anyone flips that situation, I would 188 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: be hurt, like, why didn't you ahead. 189 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: You know, but in your defense, you sprinkled it. 190 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't want to also say that 191 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: the girl's feelings were extremely valid. There Again, I just 192 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: felt the severity of what he said, especially about Macie 193 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: and her baby daddy. That was gross in every way 194 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: and I never wanted valid he did. But you'll see 195 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: in the future that things kind of get resolved in 196 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: that way, those relationships and stuff. But yeah, I never 197 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: want to say that what he said to those girls 198 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: was okay, and I can own my part of it, 199 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: but I do think that it was just a huge situation. Obviously, 200 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: some words are said that probably shouldn't have been said. 201 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that I'm fake things like that, but 202 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: I think it was just altogether a shitty situation for 203 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: I think every single person. 204 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: I loved y'all's conversation post. I thought it was so great. 205 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: I love it when someone's like, oh, I totally hear 206 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: what you mean and I get that, and I just 207 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, I love it. 208 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: You have been so responsible, though, like you're so mature 209 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: and wise for your age. It's wild to me, like, 210 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 4: thank you even handling the jet situation. 211 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was hard. 212 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 4: But it's you know, there is a lot of I 213 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: always do think there's two types of people in the world. 214 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: There's the people that, well, you'll die with all of 215 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 4: your secrets, and then there's the other kind that just 216 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: like actually physically in their DNA can't help but tell 217 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: at least one person. Yeah, and you were so admirable 218 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: in that situation because it is delicate and it is 219 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 4: about to explode. 220 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think it's hard because I see the 221 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: comments online now after a season came out that everyone's like, RelA, 222 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have put your you know, your nose where 223 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: I didn't belong. And I realized that. But I feel 224 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: like we do live in a world that potentially this 225 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: had or like Potentially this could have been in tabloids, 226 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: This could have been blown out of proportion in a 227 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: way that Jesse wouldn't have known about until it was 228 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: too late. So I think I tried to, you know, 229 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: handle the situation the best way that I could, which was, 230 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, letting Jess know first and then not. I 231 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: didn't go in gossip about it to other women. The 232 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: other women tried to get it out of me, and 233 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to tell you. Jesse 234 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: needs to tell you. So I try to operate the 235 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: best way that I could. Obviously, that wasn't my attention 236 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: when I went that day to meet me Marciatto, I 237 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: didn't know he was gonna tell me anything about Jesse, 238 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: and it sucked. I didn't want to have that information. 239 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: Well that's tough information for you to have too, you know, 240 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: that's that's not easy for you to know that. And 241 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: then also when you got that information and you know, 242 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: she's saying she didn't have sex, and obviously Marciano spoiler 243 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: alert says that he lied about it, that they actually 244 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: really didn't, but that he kissed to me. You know, 245 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: where do you kind of fall in line with all that? 246 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: I just think with Jesse, she's already caught in a 247 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: situation where she got caught for having an affair, So 248 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: I think at that point, what benefit would it be 249 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: for her to continue lying about the details if she 250 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: had sex or not. I just think, for me, if 251 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: she's already like caught, I don't think that it would 252 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: make sense to be like, no, we didn't have sex. 253 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: If they did. I just think at that point she's 254 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: going to air out all of the dirty laundry so 255 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: that she can finally feel like at peace of the 256 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: situation and be able to move forward, because I think 257 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: if her and Jordan are going to you know, stay 258 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: together and continue, I don't think having that lie still 259 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: there would help them heal and be able to move forward. 260 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: So I believe Jesse. I don't think she had sex. 261 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think that light detector test was 262 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: a tricky situation, and obviously sometimes those are hard because 263 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: sometimes not the false you know, responses to it. But yeah, 264 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: I just think that I don't see the point in 265 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: Jesse continuing to lie. 266 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: So the problem is, and I know this from my 267 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: own experience and past experience, is that when someone cheats, 268 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: most time, most times I'm not saying all the time 269 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: there is not full truth of the situation because they're 270 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: still trying to hide something to protect what they did, 271 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: and there's the shame piece in there, and there's all that. 272 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: So it's you know, again, I've done it personally in 273 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: my past past, you know what I mean. And then 274 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: I've been with someone who had multiple affairs that there 275 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: was always a truth that would come out post something. 276 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: And for hopefully in her instance that this was like 277 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: her first indiscretion around with this with her husband, it 278 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: was because if not, the healing is going to be 279 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: impossible if something comes up again the next season. 280 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: Okay, I have to say I got a little bit 281 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 5: frustrated for you when you're accused of being the mole. 282 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I could tell is it Miranda? Is that 283 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: who I'm thinking of? That didn't know? Yeah, I just 284 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 4: don't like anyone like I like you. I'm gonna be 285 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: quite honest. So I'm like the rest of these girls. 286 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: So in that moment, like because we are, we're filming 287 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: a show, and I fully understand that, and I also 288 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: know that reality is not reality, and I also know 289 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: that we're bringing cameras and we're highlighting certain things, but 290 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: you still are a person, a really sweet, caring person 291 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: and in real life, you know, like where where did 292 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: those on camera accusations land with the heart of real Leyla? 293 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: I think it hurts because I think for me, I 294 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: just want to be a part of a group and 295 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, have everyone feel like they can trust me 296 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: and like really welcome me in. I feel like that's 297 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: also what I shared when I was sharing the hair story, 298 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: when I was talking to Corey when she's doing my 299 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: hair that day, is that like I just want to 300 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: be included and feel safe, and especially like on my 301 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: birthday party, like I just want to feel like loved 302 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: that day. And it was definitely difficult because I think 303 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: this group, we all have really big mouths, honestly, and 304 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: I will take full accountability for that. Everyone loves to gossip, 305 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: and if you're going to say that you don't gossip, 306 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: you are a damn liar. We all share each other 307 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: all the time. The one person that like, I feel 308 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: like I would never whisper her secrets about It's probably random, 309 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: but like we all share things to like our partners 310 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: and like their partners going and tell you know, Jordan 311 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: and Dakota have the biggest mouths of the group, I 312 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: would say, So, I'm like, I feel like it was 313 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: probably everyone. I feel like it was someone going and 314 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: telling their husband, and their husband told their little boyfriend, 315 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: and then you know what I mean, It's just like 316 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: it's spreading around. So I feel like one source of 317 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: the bowl isn't really a fair, you know, thing to 318 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: point fingers at. I feel like it's the whole entire 319 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: group as a whole. We just tell everyone everything. 320 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: Leila, what's your dream? If we're not on is this 321 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 4: the dream? And that's okay if it is. But I 322 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: feel like you're such a go getter and to be 323 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: to be prequalified and be accepted into these big universities, Like, 324 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: you're a smart, smart cookie, so I can tell I 325 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: think that's why I'm attracted to you as a character 326 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: on there, because you're a little no nonsense. 327 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: We've di in with the drama, like I can. You're 328 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: pretty buttoned up right. 329 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: There's a lot of choices you could be making that 330 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: would just explode things, but you're still a good person. 331 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what is the dream for you? 332 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Oh? Man? I that's kind of funny that you brought 333 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: up like the school part. Before this whole entire thing happened, 334 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: I went to dental assisting school and I was doing 335 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: that for a little bit, and my long term goals 336 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: that I actually wanted to be a dentist and I 337 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: was going to go to school and study that, and 338 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: that was like my lifelong goal. So it's kind of 339 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: funny sometimes that I am in this world that sometimes 340 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I I feel like I'm like losing 341 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: my like brain. Sometimes I like, well. 342 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: You're dealing with big mouths. It's just not in the 343 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: dental capacity. Yeah, anyway, so there's something there. I just 344 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: maybe need the vision board a little refined or something 345 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 4: I go. 346 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, so at one point in my life I 347 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: wanted to like pursue something like that and go down 348 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: that path. But no, for me right now, this show 349 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: is definitely not like my end all goal that like, 350 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: I would love to keep doing this as long as 351 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: you know it's around, and keep sharing more things and 352 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: being a part of this, you know, this community. I 353 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: feel like it's been really great for me in a 354 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: lot of ways. And I get to work with my 355 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: best friends even though we fight like crazy, and it 356 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: shows that truly like these are. These are really really 357 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: amazing girls, and I'm lucky to be able to be 358 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: on a cast of them. Working with your best friends 359 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: is honestly the best I bet you guys can relate 360 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: being able to be with your best friend. Is there 361 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: we go when it trade? Agreed? 362 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: Agreed? 363 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's interesting you mentioned that because Miranda, obviously 364 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: you said, probably wouldn't share any of her secrets, but you, guys, 365 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: I mean Chase. First of all, has Chase dated all 366 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: the girls? And then where's the girl code with them? 367 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: Okay? So that we're going to start from the very 368 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: beginning with me and Chase. So the night that I 369 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: met him, I was going out with my friend Devin. 370 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: We went to a bar in Salt Lake, and we 371 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: met up with Miranda's best friend, Shanaya, and she got 372 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: the bar and she's there with Chase and Mason, and 373 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: we walked in. She and I looked at me and 374 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: my friend Devin and was like, which one do you 375 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: want and points to Chase and Mason and I was like, 376 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: what the hell are you talking about. I'm not going 377 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: forr And at that point me and Randa were like, 378 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: acquaintances would be a loose term like, I barely Branda 379 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: at that point. I hang out with her maybe three 380 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: times and that was for like our mom talk content days. 381 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: So I did not know Miranda in the slightest, but 382 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: I immediately shot it down. I was like, no, like, 383 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: I would not do that to Miranda. I don't even 384 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: know her that well, but I still want to do 385 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: that to her. And then throughout the night, she and 386 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: I ended up actually talking to Miranda and Miranda's like, oh, like, 387 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: I literally don't care like tell so Miranda had basically 388 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: gave me her blessing. I would never like shadyly go 389 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: yes her friend. 390 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: The same girl that's at the same situation has happened 391 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: to me too, But it's funny. I the person then 392 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: turned on me late, I'm like, you said it was fine, 393 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: Like now, I'm the kind of person like date you 394 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: hear here's are I'm like, here's the folder of exes 395 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: who don't we do I let me hook let me 396 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: hook you up with them. 397 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: For a reason. But yeah, so that was never I 398 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: would never maliciously go after somebody's ex unless they gave 399 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: me their blessing. And obviously it didn't work out. There's 400 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: a reason why that's Miranda's X, you know. And I 401 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: saw those things for myself as well. So yeah, it 402 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: was a funny little thing. But it's definitely not like 403 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: a people are like, that's not very girl's girl, Leila. 404 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, I would not do that. And obviously now 405 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: we laugh about it because we're like, well, we're both 406 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: of us thinking, and it's just it's just a funny 407 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: little thing we have in common now. 408 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: With all the drama and because you have spoken about 409 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: your mental health, you've also spoken about your body dysmorphia. 410 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: How does that weigh on your mental health and what 411 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: do you do to stay on the right the right 412 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: foot with it? 413 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's hard, especially living in this world 414 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: like right now, I'm just talking to Rana this morning 415 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: on the phone, and I think this has honestly been 416 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: the most challenging post season for me. I think with 417 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: finding my voice now, I have a lot of people 418 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: that have a lot to say, and it's gonna come 419 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: with a lot of you know, learning to drown out 420 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: the outside noise and just focus on who really knows me. 421 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: And you know, people that know me in real life 422 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: and they know me my character, they know so that 423 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: situations aren't exactly what they seem on reality TV and 424 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: there's context cut and you know, I'm not gonna let 425 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: the haters online that don't even know me take down 426 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: my confidence. But it's hard. I'm still a human and 427 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: like seeing people write mean things about me, it's really 428 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: hard and it's challenging, but I just have to remind 429 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: myself that they're human too, and maybe they're going through 430 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: a really hard day and that's why they chose to 431 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: write something mean about me, and you know, try to 432 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: give them grace too. But I think just check in 433 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: with yourself is what I try to do all the time, 434 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: and just surround myself with people that really like love. 435 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: Me and know me for me and speak truth into Yeah, 436 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 2: exactly what do you want people to know? 437 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: I just feel like the whole entire cast just remember 438 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: that we're all humans. I feel like, just like I said, 439 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: I feel like this postseason, I've seen so much hate, 440 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: not just about me, but about honestly all of the 441 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: casts the season, and it's hard because I feel like 442 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: I see these girls for who they really are, and 443 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, Randon, Mikaela arn't mean girls. You know, like 444 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot happening that day that like led them 445 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: to say what they did and stop saying these things 446 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: about Jesse, Like there's so much in the marriage that 447 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: you still haven't even seen, and just I get so 448 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: defensive of everyone because I'm like, you don't even know 449 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: half of it. Stop saying these mean things. But it's 450 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: also like they have a right to say what they want. 451 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: You kind of give up that agency when you're on 452 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: reality TV, and you have to be okay with that. 453 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: But I think we're all humans, We're learning, we're growing. 454 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm twenty four years old, you know, I'm growing up 455 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: on this show, honestly, and it's hard and it's challenging, 456 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: and you guys can pick me apart all you want, 457 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: but you know, I would love to see half of 458 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: these people step into our shoes for one day because 459 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: it's a hard, ash job that we do. Honestly. 460 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: Well, there's that, and it's you know, especially like I 461 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: loved that Jesse spoke about what she did and marriage. 462 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 2: Marriage is hard, and there's a lot of conversations that 463 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: can be happening in households because of what you know, 464 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: what they went through and what she was feeling and 465 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: when a woman doesn't feel validated and I'm not condoning 466 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: anything on her behalf or it was really honest. It 467 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: was very honest, and I love showing the therapy side thinks. 468 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: I love that you speak about your mental health, like 469 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: those are things that a lot of people are. Everybody 470 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: deals with, you know, in some form or fashion. I 471 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: think it's really beautiful. Yes, there's a lot of drama 472 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: and it's a lot of cat fights, but there is 473 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: that you guys are all just trying to walk through 474 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: this together too. 475 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: No, I agree. I think our show is very vulnerable 476 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: and real. We're talking about real life things that a 477 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: lot of people have experienced, and it's very human and 478 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: I think that's why people pick us apart so much, 479 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: is because we're giving them so much access to us. 480 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, I just think as a viewer, I hope 481 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: that people just remember that we're doing our best every day. 482 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: You know, are you voting for Whitney and Dancing with 483 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: the Stars or are you voting for someone else? 484 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 3: Secretly? 485 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: Oh? No, absolutely with me, I was killing it amazing. 486 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: I think obviously the season people have their feelings with 487 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: her coming back for Dancing with the Stars. I personally 488 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: think that that was. 489 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: A was that in her contented No, it wasn't dding, but. 490 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: I think it was like a way to protect her feelings, sure, 491 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: and to not you know, let us women know that 492 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: she really does care about the friendships in this group, 493 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: and to kind of put her guard up of like, no, 494 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm only here for dancing at the start, So if 495 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: they hurt my feelings since they say mean things to me, 496 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: it's okay because I'm only here for that. And I 497 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: think it was just the way to protect herself because 498 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I would say, right now, she's in a really good 499 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: place with majority of us women, and I feel like 500 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: that shows you know, but yeah, what would. 501 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: You say, is not in the right now post all 502 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: things geared, is not in the good graces? 503 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: I think probably just Jen. I mean, there's things out 504 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: there right now if you like read toad Bloods or 505 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: if you watch that TEENZ video that was so that 506 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: was I was like shade, Yeah, I think I was. 507 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 3: I was like, wait, what, No, it. 508 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: Bummed me out for sure, and I know it's emotions 509 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: get heightened, and I think we all knew that was 510 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: going to happen. With two cast mates going against each other, 511 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: that was a recipe from the recipe for disaster from 512 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: the beginning. But I know that they can work it out. 513 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: I this group has been through worse and we've been 514 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: able to work it out. So I have hope for 515 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: those girls. 516 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: Do you have hope for Taylor as the bachelorette? 517 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: I do. I do, Honestly. I've been seeing people have 518 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: been like leaking videos of her with her guys all 519 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm like so excited for her though. She is beaming 520 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: from ear to ear and I actually felt like emotional 521 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: watching one of them last night. They were at like 522 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: a Raiders game in Vegas and she was kissing her 523 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: date on a one on one and I have not 524 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: seen her that happy and a long amount of time, 525 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: and honestly, I love that. So EMOTIONALLL talk about right now. 526 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: I just feel like Taylor has been through, oh my god, 527 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: so much and she is so so deserving of somebody 528 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: loving her and treating her right. And I'm just I'm 529 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: so hopried. 530 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: And she's done the work too, you know that going 531 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 2: to that retreat, I mean, that's that's big stuff. And 532 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: that's I mean, you know we've all done those where 533 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: it's it's that's years of therapy. 534 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: In a couple of. 535 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: Weeks, you know, and so what she's doing too. And 536 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: I'm proud of you for using your voice to you know, 537 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: on even on the hard days. So thank you for 538 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: coming on. We appreciate you and I love that you 539 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: have a bigger voice. 540 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: Same I know, but I'm like, she's not going anywhere. 541 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: And listen, not me. 542 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: The main thing. 543 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: People are going to write mean things that is within 544 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: their hearts, but you again, always what's in the four 545 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: walls and. 546 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 3: You know the truth. So thank you you guys, you 547 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 3: know your intention. 548 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: We love you, Leila. 549 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: I have a great day, Love you guys. See you