1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Today's episode was recorded before the SAG after a strike 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: began on July fourteenth. Table for two thanks you, as 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: always for tuning in and supporting entertainers. Hey, everybody, thank 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: you for pulling up a chair for today's episode of 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Table for two. We're sitting at the iconic lobster role 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: in Amagansett, New York, and we're about to have another 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: great lunch. Okay, well, look who I seek? Come in 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: my way. Hey beautiful, I'm gonna give you a hug. 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: We're hungry today, I'm always hungry. 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: My guest today is a dear friend, incredible actress, and 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: brilliant business person. She's currently celebrating twenty five years of 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: her show Sex and the City with season two of 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Jests Like That on Max. She also has a stylish 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: footwear line, a book in print, and her own food column. 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: Yes, folks, she's. 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: A serious food there's your beefsteak tomato? 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Being at the lobster role eating and letting the conversation 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: meander always feels like a classic peak summertime activity, and 20 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: there's no better way to celebrate the height of the 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: season and having lunch with today's guests. 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: My friend Sarah. 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: Jessica Parker here cheers, Luna. What are you saying, Salu. 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm Bruce Bosi and this is my podcast table for two. 25 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: So I tend to I order a lot. I have 26 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: a food column, so my editor always wants me to, 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: you know, have more if we're not going to be 28 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: a party of four where we can all share a 29 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: lot of dishes. 30 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: Could you remind everyone, like of the paper, it's thick net. 31 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: It's a wire service, so it's like syndicated a lot 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: of papers. 33 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean over sort of the course of 34 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: launching a show, like and just like that season two, 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: that what's difficult in the process of like, okay, now 36 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: you did all that work. 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: I think for me it's not. It's been really pleasant 38 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: because I decided that it's very different than it used 39 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: to be to launch anything news and the way we 40 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 3: talk about things, the pace of our lives and social 41 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 3: media and this just like revolving door of the news 42 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: cycle is like our daily life, like, so trying to 43 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: talk about something that's important is just different than it 44 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: used to be. In the old days, you'd have press 45 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: junket days, you'd go on every talk show, you'd do 46 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: you know, you pick a few nighttime shows, morning shows, 47 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: afternoon shows, you do newspapers, you would do as syndicated, 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: you would meet with everybody, you'd meet with the foreign press, 49 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: and it was formal and organized and it was it 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: was a lot of work, which was fine if you 51 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: if something you care about. But now you're sort of 52 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: it's I feel like it's fluid, so meaning like it 53 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: keeps changing, Like what's the best way to make impact? 54 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: How do you reach an audience? You know, what do 55 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: you Are you doing it via social media? Are you 56 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: doing it on a podcast? Are you doing it on 57 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: There's just so for me, I decided that there's so 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: much information about the show already, you know, then it 59 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: just becomes more You get more concentrated about what you 60 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: want to do. So I was like, I want to 61 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: do you know, one or two magazines and you know, 62 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: one or two visits in the morning, and you know, 63 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: did Diane Sawyer and then Cynthia and Kristin and I 64 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: did Good Morning America together, you know, I did The 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: New Yorker and I did Vogue and you I care 66 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: a Swisher And that way it feels very specific and 67 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: like targeted. I don't mean in a strategic way, but 68 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: I guess it is, but just thoughtful, so you're not 69 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: just throwing yourself out there and seeing, you know, just 70 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: randomly kind of what you know. I don't does that 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: make sense? It just feels much more disciplined. 72 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: And how you did Howard? You were great on Howard? 73 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: We did, yes, power forgive me, of course, my goodness. 74 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: But you know the thing that do you think? 75 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: Because you know on Instagram there's a pretty great account 76 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: for in just like that, you know what I mean? 77 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: Like all leading up to the season, I feel as 78 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: the as a fan, as a viewer, we're kind of. 79 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: Getting you're seeing it, and I think we you know, 80 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: you have to do that now if you're a show 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: that shoots on the streets all the time, so now 82 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: with phones with cameras, everybody shooting what we're doing anyway, 83 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: so you have to also have to figure out how 84 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: to wrangle all that and have it be our offerings 85 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: as well as the public's offerings. So that's active. And 86 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: I have an Instagram account and I'm you know, I 87 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: always I have a very conflicted relationship with how to 88 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: use that, and you know what it is, I think 89 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: I just always. There's so many things I want to 90 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: talk about. There's things that are personal and not business oriented. 91 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: But because I didn't start off an Instagram account promoting work, 92 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: it feels harder for me to do it now, as 93 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: if I'm exploiting any of the followers. But when I 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: don't share information about where people are, like why didn't 95 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: you share that? So it's a little harder for me 96 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: than it is for other people who just began always 97 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: business business business business, and the two were mixed and 98 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: the lines weren't blurred. It was just like, this is 99 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: part of my life. So I try to post about 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: the show or about my wine or my fragrance or 101 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: shoes or books or whatever it is. But I'm glad 102 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: that we have official accounts too where you can direct 103 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 3: people because it feels working. 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: How you felt about that, It's hard. I thought, oh, 105 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: is this official? Is it not? 106 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's official through h Max now, And then we 107 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: have an amazing one that is run through our costume department, 108 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: which is incredible. 109 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 2: I know that one. 110 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: It's called I think, and just like that costumes. Okay, 111 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: and the Max one is great too, But costumes is 112 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: a kind of deeply personal it's sort of it has 113 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: a sort of in real time, and it's Molly Rogers 114 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: who is our costume designer, and Danny who is again costumes. 115 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: Go, yeah, do you find you know? I spoke to 116 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: Scarlet had lunch with me Johansson. 117 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: It was so great. 118 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: Scarlett would say how difficult it is to shoot on 119 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: the streets of New York City. And alternately, when she 120 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: sees a crew shooting and it gets hurt, even when 121 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: it's like not her, she gets queezy. 122 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: But also. 123 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: Funny. 124 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't mean that no, but what it evokes for 125 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: people like yourself. I know that happens to you. How 126 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: difficult is it to get through a take? 127 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: I mean, on a practical level, it's hard because the 128 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: crowd control is an issue. So if you're shooting a 129 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: scene on Perry Street, for instance, and there's four hundred 130 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: five hundred people, you have to first of all get 131 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: equipment through there, and then you're asking everyone please, you know, 132 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: be quiet, what we call action. No cameras, no shutters, 133 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: no response to the scene, because now they're just witnessed 134 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: like you're in a priscenium stage, you know, like a theater. 135 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: More complicated than that because the crowds tend to be 136 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: really cooperative, sweet they're excited to be there. Some are 137 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: New Yorkers, some are and some people just hanging out. 138 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: I mean as equal to the street people are the 139 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: people that are out hanging out their windows in their apartments, 140 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: fire escapes, crazy leaning out. But it's the paparazzi that 141 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: is a more complicated affair because you can hear their 142 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: shutters and it can ruin a take. And they are 143 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: because you don't own the streets. You get a permit, 144 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: but we don't dictate sidewalks. To some degree, we have 145 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: a footprint, but they are typically right next to the 146 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: lens or right over the shoulder of the person whom 147 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: you're playing opposite in a scene, so they are in 148 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: your eyeline all the time, and some are doing it 149 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: purposefully and some are That's kind of where they've found 150 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: themselves because they've watched rehearsal. They know what the scene is. 151 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: And that's really hard, and that's taken a really it's 152 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: been years and years and years of that, and some 153 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: of them are more provocative than others. But I think 154 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: it's just that is our cross to bear, and we 155 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: sort of have to make peace with it, and I 156 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: struggle with a little bit. But what are you going 157 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: to do? I mean, we can't be inside. We don't 158 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: want to be inside. We want to be on the 159 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: streets of New York and we want to be active 160 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: and we want to be able to still have scenes 161 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: that are excited, you know, and interesting and dramatic and 162 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: funny and absurd. 163 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: So you just say, it's such an important character. Ye 164 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: you made that way back when. I mean, and your 165 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: love of New York and you know, and Matthew's love 166 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: of New York, your husband and my love like that 167 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: for the show. That's key and when you're watching you 168 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: guys walk down the street, is it's magical. 169 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: Thank you, We love it. And I will say the 170 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: way that it works is an incredible a d department 171 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: as well as our crew who were just really used 172 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: to it, and they're used to the crowds, they're used 173 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: to moving equipment in and out, and there is much 174 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: a part of making it possible as anybody else, like 175 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: as any of our emotional kind of exchanges with it. 176 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on Table for two. Carrie Bradshaw 177 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: is one of the most memorable TV roles of the. 178 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: Past quarter century. 179 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: And over the years, Sarah Jessica has truly brought her life. 180 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious what's it like to prepare to play such 181 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: an iconic character. I once watched a documentary on Marilyn 182 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: Monroe and she was talking to I think Susan Strasburg 183 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: at the time, and she was about to go down 184 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: the stairs, and there were all these press and the 185 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: people there, and she said, do you want to see her? 186 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: Watch? When do you want to see her? 187 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: And she Marilyn was talking about herself. 188 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: Talking about herself, and when she went down the stairs, 189 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: she looked at the press and her voice changed, and 190 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: then Marilyn showed up. Is there something in your day 191 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: when you go to work and now you're bringing Carrie 192 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: Bradshaw to life? 193 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: Is there a piece jewelry? 194 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: Is there a moment where you go, Carrie's here, She's 195 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: in the room now? 196 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: Action? 197 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: Action? 198 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: Action? Yeah. I mean you walk to the set, maybe 199 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: up sweatpants, covering part of your outfit because it's twenty 200 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: four degrees and it's February, and you have your own 201 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: tote bag with your books and your phone in it 202 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: and a snack or whatever, and you have maybe a 203 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: parka on over a ball gown right, and gloves and 204 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: you know, silk liners underneath, and then you rehearse and 205 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: then you strip right and the minute that you take 206 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: all of the outer layers off and anything that's keeping 207 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: you comfortable or closer to you because it's for you 208 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: versus for Carrie. The minute I take it off, then 209 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: someone calls action. She's there, Yeah, I mean she isn't 210 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: always there exactly as I want her, because that's the 211 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 3: nature of acting is It's like you're not a machine. 212 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: So you can't like push a button and say like 213 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: Carrie's set Carrie silly, Carrie confused. Yeah, So she's there 214 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: as much as I can control. But that's when it is. 215 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 3: It's not before and it's not after. 216 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: Cut interesting, that's really but you have to. 217 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: Have all those layers off to do it, you know, 218 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 3: and you have to be totally willing to have all 219 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: the things away from you that are comfortable. 220 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: Right, because that would distract from it's. 221 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: Then it's not you're not complete, right. Yeah. 222 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: Were you amazed at the effect that you had in 223 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: New York with style and with women and men in 224 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: the nineties, I really you get you know, you're credited 225 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: and justifiably so for really shifting a whole conversation and 226 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: look and now again. So I guess my question is, 227 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: were you, like, when was there a moment that you 228 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: looked across the street and saw somebody and you're like, 229 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: she's dressed like Carrie Bradshaw. 230 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think over time and I will say that 231 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: really is Pat Field and Mollie Rogers. Originally, you know, 232 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: Pat was our original custom designer, as you know, she's incredible. 233 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: Mollie Rogers was there from day one of the original show. 234 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: So I think what we all recognized the ways in 235 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: which the show was influencing life, whether it was the 236 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: flower you know, or the Carrie name plate yep, or 237 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 3: you know, walking down the street with two purses versus one, 238 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: or two pocketbooks versus one pocketbook, or or you'd start 239 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: to see young women gathered four and five on a 240 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: Sunday for brunch, right and you'd just see more of it, 241 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: or groups of women walking. You'd see a kind of 242 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: emotional life that wasn't as visible in certain ways. But 243 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: the clothes had a huge impact. And I think that 244 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 3: was because Pat never and Molly Patt they know, I 245 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: ever felt that they had to answer to anybody or apologize. 246 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 3: I'll speak specifically to Carrie, who has a very specific 247 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: relationship with fashion as well vintage. So I think, you know, 248 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: there were lots of hits, and there were, in many 249 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: people's opinion, lots of misses, and to us, none of 250 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: it was a mistake. Like you had. You had to 251 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: take an approach and be totally monogamous to an aesthetic idea. 252 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: And when you do that, like in anything, it's arresting. 253 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: You know, if somebody writes a book and uses a 254 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: voice that you've never read before, everybody's going to talk 255 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: about it. Or think of early images on MTV and 256 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: what made us all stop and watch a video a 257 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: hundred times? You know, music, architecture, you know, anything anything 258 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: that feels from bush unique and yet unseen, but not arbitrarily. 259 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: So you can't just be ridiculous, because you can be 260 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: and it really doesn't look like there's any point of 261 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: view or perspective. It looks just like you're trying to 262 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: be controversial exactly. So I feel like the things that 263 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: were influential were because they were a real choice. And 264 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: then you you know, you know, in the beginning, I've 265 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: told destroy many times that we didn't have anything. In 266 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: the beginning, nobody would loan us anything. We were getting 267 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: most of Carrie's wardrobe from vintage and consignment shops and 268 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: Century twenty one. Occasionally we could afford a dress off 269 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: the rack at a finer department store like Sacks. 270 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: But that was very rare for the Plaza. 271 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: That was the most expensive dress they ever bought. It 272 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: was a Christian dey or simple sheath dress. I've heard 273 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: it was every anywhere from six hundred to eight hundred dollars. 274 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: But that would have been like, yeah, you'd be making 275 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: decisions then okay, well if you do, we get that, 276 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: then we can't have that. Like that wasn't alone. That 277 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: was a blue chase. 278 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 279 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: What I think about with you is just how you 280 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: live your life. And you do live your life just 281 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: like smartly and like you're a self made human that. 282 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: Has been working her whole life. 283 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: And I think that there's an appreciation for what you have, 284 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: what you've earned. You've imparted that with your children, and 285 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: that's important because it's easy not. 286 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: To and well you're I mean, I think all of 287 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: us are making similar choices. We're trying to, you know, 288 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: for a bunch of reasons. Whether it's because you always 289 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: think you're going to be poor, you always think you're 290 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: going to be broke, you know, some of us think 291 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: like that, or we're worried we will be Also because 292 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: you don't want to blow through money foolishly and spend 293 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: it on things that don't really add up over time. 294 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: And also you want your children to understand what it 295 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: means to earn money, what it takes to earn money, 296 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: and the value of it, and that they the expectations 297 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: will be the same for them. You know. Colly Parton 298 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: said that when she was growing up, she always had 299 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: let me say this, I think she not didn't set 300 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: this about growing up. I think maybe in terms of 301 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 3: someone will correct this quote, but it was either about 302 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: taking care of family, nieces and nephews, or the way 303 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: she was raised. And I can't remember, so forget me. 304 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: But she always she said, you always have everything you need, 305 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: but not everything you want. And I can't remember about 306 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: what she could who she was talking about, but I 307 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: think it's a great way of living for children that 308 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 3: there needs are meant to be fed and safe and loved, 309 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: and you know the important things in life, you know, 310 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: books and food and interesting experiences, and they're warm in 311 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: the winter and cool as they But they should be 312 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: kind for things. They should want things, and we should also, 313 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: I think, be interested in how do they contribute to 314 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: the things at a certain point exactly. 315 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: You know, to Ava to recently like she's at the 316 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: age where I'm like, you know, okay, if you want 317 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: something now you have to figure out how to contribute 318 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: to purchasing. You know. The ease of Amazon and the 319 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: ease of a telephone makes things very easy, and sometimes. 320 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: You forget how the how got There is a gorgeous 321 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: is it good? 322 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: The Gannette? The burger perfect? 323 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: I might have you, honestly, do just a little box 324 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: inside the column just about the burger. You know what 325 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: I mean? Because I promised editors that it would be 326 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: more fish because of the location. But I might since 327 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: the burger here is so good, we might just do 328 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: a box. Since I the column. Please leave the stuff 329 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: at about the column? Have I said that already? 330 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: You are an avid reader? You have an imprint you. 331 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: I just got a book that you send which I 332 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: have not yet started. 333 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: And Paradise, Yes, great, it's just got a beautiful review 334 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: The New York times just this morning when you're picking. 335 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: Up Wow, yeah, congratulations. 336 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah to the writer writer Alia Chang. 337 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: But also like I mean you aren't you picked right? 338 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you pick both. But yes, I mean you've 339 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: always been a bookie, which I love. And because with 340 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: my mother, really she was a librarian. 341 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: She wasn't although actually she said she'd always wish that 342 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: she had gotten her degree, you know, as a librarian, 343 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: which is a very hard degree to get, very I 344 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: do not very hard degree to get really, but she 345 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: was an educator. She had her she's a graduate in 346 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: she was you know, her specialty was early childhood education. 347 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: But she taught up Yeah, so she taught up to 348 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: second grade and then she stopped after I was born. 349 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm one of eight kids, so she and I'm the 350 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 3: fourth of the eighth. But my mom always my mother 351 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: never let us leave the house without something to read. 352 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 3: And that meant even when we couldn't read, So we 353 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: would be in the car with picture books or books 354 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: that had words and we were not able to read them, 355 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: she said, make up, make up your own story, and 356 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: she would do the same. She would take us to 357 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: this was in Cincinnati, Ohio. We had an incredible library there, 358 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: and but she would also take us to the symphony 359 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: and the opera and the ballet and art museums, and 360 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: we always had a book. And symphony to a very 361 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: young child, forgive me, is very boring, but she would 362 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: let us have a book, so we would be hearing 363 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: this beautiful music and then we'd be looking at a 364 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: book in the sament and art museum. You know, we 365 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: get bored walking around and you're tired, you're little. Yeah, 366 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: she just say just sit on that bench. You've got 367 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: your book. Every now and then look around, see that 368 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: beautiful painting. 369 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: Online, like holy moly. 370 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: And there came a point in our lives as young 371 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: adults where it just became our choice to not leave 372 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 3: the house without a book or something to read, something 373 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: to read. The idea of being stuck somewhere for two 374 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: minutes or two hours or two months. Sometimes they see 375 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: people get on the plane and there's nothing in their hands. 376 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: There is nothing in their hands. 377 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm like, what are you gonna do? 378 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 3: What you could do? 379 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: Right? And it's valuable time. 380 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: And I don't mean a phone, because that's the sad 381 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: thing is most people are looking at their phones, but 382 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: like it just stuns me that you could. And by 383 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: the way, listening to a book too, like anything that 384 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: makes an experience your own, versus the way we all 385 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: get information now, which is kind of siloed, like we're 386 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: all getting from the same source. But books take you, 387 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 3: LL swear, they transport you. You learn about other cultures, 388 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: other religions and their tribes, their villages and their countries, other. 389 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: Food and just you know, you said, we last summer, 390 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: we were meeting for dinner and you were running just 391 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: a little late, and you said, and you knew you 392 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: were running mates, and you said, bring a book. Yeah, 393 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: that was like, bring a book. And now I don't 394 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: know if I would have brought a book, but I 395 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: brought a book. I brought the book I was reading, 396 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: and it was like it was like never alone, never alone. 397 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: And you can also kind of avoid it. 398 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: I wish we You know, you grew up in New 399 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: York and it was so great. I know you were 400 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: on subways early in the morning, and we all had 401 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: our bus pass and stuff like that. But I mean, 402 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 3: and and buses too, like city buses. I thought there 403 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: was to me, there was nothing greater than getting on 404 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: a bus or a subway early early morning, and people 405 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: got their New York Times out, and you know those 406 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 3: people that knew how to fold the Times, and how 407 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: about the people that wore the gloves? Yes, because of 408 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: the newsprints right exactly. And people you could smell people's colognes. 409 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: People hair were wet from the showers. You could smell 410 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: like what they shampooed. And you'd look around and you'd 411 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 3: be like, oh my god, what is that book. I've 412 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: never seen that book. You've be talking to people, what 413 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: is that book? What are you reading? What are you reading? 414 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: And everyone was sort of present because people didn't have 415 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: things in the rs. 416 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 3: Because it makes if you see a book on a 417 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: subway car or a newspaper, it's just shocking. I mean, 418 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 3: and you're like, oh my god, look someone's reading. I'm like, Matthew, 419 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: looks someone's reading a book. 420 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: Sarah, Jessica and Matthew are avid subway writers, like you're. 421 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: It's the smartest way I know that. 422 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: You know people that surprises people sometimes, but New York 423 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: is that kind of city. And you also soak in 424 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: like when you're like, yeah, what are your And I 425 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: love to walk so like I'll walk forever in New 426 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: York just to soak it a reason to walk, right, 427 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: what a given sort of Sarah Jessica has no work, 428 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: which is a very rare day. 429 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: What is like a day for you that you enjoy 430 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: in the city. 431 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: Ideally, Yeah, I'm very bad about getting out of the house. 432 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: Once I'm out, it's fine, but I can think of 433 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: a million things to do in the house. But ideally 434 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: I would, you know, have my head bones on early walking, walking, 435 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: listening to a podcast, listening to WNYC Brian Lair, who's 436 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: like one of my most favorite on air personality hosts, 437 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: thoughtful thinkers. But podcasts are a great friend because you 438 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 3: can't read, and I don't listen to books. So then 439 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: maybe I would jump on a train and I would 440 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: take the train with my book and I go to Chinatown, 441 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: you know, have some dumplings, have some lunch, have some noodles, 442 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: some vegetables. Then I would for sure maybe walk home 443 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 3: from Chinatown listening which I do, I don't. I mean, 444 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: I've been to Chinatown and I say three or four 445 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: times in the last two months, because I love it. 446 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: You've always loved it. 447 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 3: Love it, I would say. Then I could make a 448 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: pit stop at the Whitney on the way back, see 449 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: what's going on there. That's like an ideal day, you. 450 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: Know, wrapping you home in the afternoon to them maybe. 451 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 3: The kids are coming home from school, or maybe I 452 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: can take care of some stuff or some calls, or. 453 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: Cook dinner. 454 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: We cook every night. We cook every night. It's a 455 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: source of a huge amount of pride for everybody. But 456 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: it's also like mystifying because we just don't order in 457 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: as a family, and on the rare occasion we have, 458 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: we we always here. Like other families, they do it 459 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: and then like one kid orders from this place, and 460 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: when it's so confusing. 461 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: Everyone's now postmating their own meals in. It's insane. 462 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: But we really do cook five to six nights a week, 463 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: for sure. We try to. We we have always have 464 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: a Sunday dinner. We invite people. We often go on 465 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: Sundays to Jeans. Do you know Jeans? I don't, Oh 466 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: my gosh, we go to Jeans. It's on Eleventh between 467 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: fifth and sixth closer to six thousand year. 468 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: I live right around from there and I've never been. 469 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: It's a neighborhood establishment's been owned by the same family 470 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 3: since the mid seven Two brothers now two brothers own it. 471 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 3: It's one of the most It is the portrait of 472 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: a local restaurant. It's Italian food. If you walk in there, 473 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: you are bound to see at least five or seven 474 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: of the same people you see every time you go there. 475 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful, low ceiling room. You walk down some 476 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 3: old beat up marble steps. There is a bar that 477 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: greets you right in the front that is one of 478 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: the most beautiful little bars ever that It's just one 479 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: big back room with the most lovely servers. I have 480 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 3: the same thing every time, and I always talk with 481 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: the kids like I'm like, when am I gonna order someone, 482 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna You're gonna get the vil pacata extra 483 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 3: large order. You're gonna get a side order of the 484 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: apasta palmadoro. And we go around the table. Everybody knows 485 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 3: what we're gonna order. What's papa, what's Papa gonna order? 486 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 3: Shrimp diavolo. You know it's it's just a friendly place. 487 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: I know exactly where it is. 488 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you, they come up to the table, 489 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 3: they catch up. Yeah. And then another place that we 490 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 3: love is La Repai. You know it. It's been on 491 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: Hudson for forty years. It's Hudson just across basically from 492 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: Bleeker Street Park. 493 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: Okay, it's an old French restaurant, yep. 494 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: But that's like our family thing. And we'll say, like 495 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: we call Victor and Victor Barbon and be like, oh, 496 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 3: Victor's alone in town, Victor will come for dinner, or 497 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Hickey whoever. 498 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have you, you and Matthew you have you know, 499 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: your tribe, and it's such a beautiful tribe. 500 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: And over the years, you know you're a part of it. 501 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: You are no thank you, no, no yours. 502 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: I feel I know, but and I feel like I'm 503 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: about I feel like we all have we share something. 504 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: Very specially Matthew leaves you, he's like he just loves 505 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: you so much. 506 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: He is, Yeah, he really loves you. That's that means 507 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: a lot to me. 508 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 3: And you lived here, you'd be at Jeans every Sunday too, thank. 509 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: You, thank you, thank you. 510 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: And I love that in the sense of the family 511 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: and the Sunday night and the rituals, like this is 512 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: all we got, like you know what I mean. So 513 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: it's like and the kids then they're gone before you 514 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: know it, and they're in their world and you just 515 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: hope that. Okay, So these are really important moments. 516 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 517 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I come out here because my 518 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: parents are here and my sister's here, so just to 519 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: make sure we do connect with Yeah. 520 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's not always perfect. There's always at least 521 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: one fight over this one. 522 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: Like the other. Yes, they're in the shower. I was like, 523 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: I can't breathe. I can't breathe in this house. 524 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: This how I maybe I haven't breathed in this house 525 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: for over twenty years. 526 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: It's possible I haven't taken a deep breath. 527 00:28:36,520 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, Welcome back to Table for two. Sarah. Jessica 528 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: has been a close friend for years. 529 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: But there's a story about us that I've never told her, 530 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: and well, I'm just gonna come out and finally tell her. 531 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: So I want to share with you a story that 532 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: is you don't know the story. It's one of the 533 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: most embarrassing moments of my life. What it happened with you? 534 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: And it is and I'm gonna tell you quickly because 535 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: this is about this lunch is about you. 536 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: But you ate all yeah, yeah you did, but you 537 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: should because you love it. 538 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: Oh my God, No, there's a big literally, there's a 539 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: claw left. Take a picture from my editor. Hold on, click. 540 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Click, okay, just quickly. I was a page at NBC 541 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety. I moved out to LA. I was 542 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: just a super you know, big fan. LA story comes out, 543 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: you guys to cast LA. Story is on pheladwa you. 544 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: I had worked as a page on the show in 545 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: New York You want yep. I was in the audience 546 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: with my friend Stephanie. 547 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: As a page or as a civilian. 548 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: As a civilian. Now in La, you guys are all there, 549 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: and I just came to LA. 550 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: He did a week of shows in La. Wow, you 551 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: guys were doing press. I am the story. 552 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: And Steve Martin and me and Victoria Tenant and the 553 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: guy yes Richard. 554 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: Yes, all of you lined up in your chairs. 555 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: Were we swiveling? Were they swivel chairs? 556 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: Like? 557 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, they were. 558 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: And it's a story that goes nowhere with the exception 559 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: of just I finally feel like I have. 560 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: To just get this off my chest. Stephanie is sitting 561 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: next to me. 562 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: I raised to ask a question for Sarah Jessica with 563 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: no question, but just wanted to connect. 564 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: So I raised my hand. The guy could go with 565 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: the mic. I always want take the mic because I'm 566 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: a pushy person. 567 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: Stephanie looked at me and I'm uttering nothing. I mean 568 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: stuttering and uttering. 569 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: You look at me. You have face. 570 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: Guys, you tell it like to the right, like what 571 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: is he? What is this person doing? She has gone 572 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: under her seat. I was mortified. 573 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: She couldn't stop me and I'm I have tears in 574 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: my eyes. 575 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: The machine. 576 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: But I just wanted you to know that's how far. 577 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: That's the moment that I was like, oh my god, 578 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: this is connection. 579 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: You did ask a question. 580 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: Eventually something came because we saw. 581 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: In a statement like you're on TV. I have a 582 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: question for. 583 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, you're in a chair. That story is now over. 584 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: I just had to finally, that's very touching. Wow. 585 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: The other tradition that I have in my house is 586 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: family stone and I'll say it over and over again. 587 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: And I actually posted it on Instagram when I watched 588 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: it at Christmas time, and Diane Keaton on my feed 589 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: she's a beautiful movie, beautiful, You're incredible. 590 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: Watching her work on that movie was really why incredible 591 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: because you know, I think we did First Wives Club 592 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: before that movie and positive ready. So I had worked 593 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: with her minimally because I don't have I don't think 594 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: my character had a lot of scenes with her, but 595 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: you know, I just think she's incredible, and so I had, 596 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: you know, I was on the set with her a lot. 597 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: We rehearsed a lot, first of all, which was really 598 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: interesting and very I was really, really nervous. But watching 599 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: her work is a very interesting experience. She's really good, 600 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: she's very she has a process that's very real and 601 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: very committed to. She always has headphones on with a 602 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 3: i'm gonna say a disc man. Really, even at the 603 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: time was retro. She's listening to music up until the 604 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: director calls action something I'm sure that is specific to 605 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: a scene or an emotion, and so she takes the 606 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: headphones off and puts them down someplace or hands them 607 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: off to somebody. And she is different every time. I mean, 608 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: appropriately for the scene. She's not not telling the story, 609 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: but she's very you know, for all of her laughter 610 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: and the way she's on a talk show, which is 611 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: funny and unpredictable and kind of deeply honest and shocking 612 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: in her transparency. But she's just so freaking good. So 613 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 3: to watch her do her work like that, because you 614 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: don't understand how somebody who appears so effortlessly real on screen, 615 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: you know, she's not so bad. It was just very 616 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, so you can you can be 617 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: a serious person on the set. You can not talk 618 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: to people when you don't need to talk to people. 619 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 3: You can be you know, focused and quiet and kind 620 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 3: of private, like if someone has headphones on, you're not 621 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: going to bother them, right, And it wasn't unsocial. It 622 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: was serious, but it was it wasn't hostile, do you know. 623 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: I mean like there was no one around her keeping 624 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: you from talking to her. But it was incredible to 625 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: watch her work. And she's just magnificent. 626 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: Your business life is so profound. I mean the fragrance 627 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: is to shoes the No Shoe store, which is beautiful 628 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: on Perry Street, gorgeous. What was that experience like and 629 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: being in the hot that side of hospitality where you're 630 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: selling your shoes to a customer and putting them on 631 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: their foot. 632 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: How is like? 633 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: Again, people would be like, really, but it's beautiful as well. 634 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: It's the same. Honestly, you know this, you can describe 635 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 3: it just as well. It's exact same thing as what 636 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: you did at your family restaurant for your entire life. 637 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: It's taking care of the customer. What does that mean everything. 638 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 3: It's from the smallest, littlest thing to the most important 639 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: to the stuff that's more obviously big. So you're on 640 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: your hands and knees, putting shoes on people, taking them off, 641 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 3: read running back to the stock room, trying to get 642 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: what they need, trying to find what they need if 643 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: we don't have it looking online, you know, making sure 644 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: we can do a special order for this one who's 645 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 3: leaving town, who flights at five o'clock. Whatever it takes 646 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: to meet the customer's needs, requests, and then ten steps 647 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: beyond that. You never you never stop at that. You 648 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 3: go well beyond that, you know. So that's what it 649 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 3: is to have a store. It's like it's like inviting 650 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 3: someone into your home and then saying, you know, find 651 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: the towels. I know you've never been here yourself, but 652 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 3: good luck, you know, find the towels, and there's some 653 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 3: spices in that room over there. You know, you can't 654 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: do that customstly. 655 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: You're the kind of professional person that if you're going 656 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: to put anything that is about your name on something. 657 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: It is going to reflect quality elegance, So like you 658 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: being able to go into the store, work in the store, 659 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: or just go buy that store to make sure. 660 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, how does it look? 661 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: Is it creat Are the shoes placed the way they 662 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: that we wanted this season's shoes. 663 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: To look correct? 664 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: Very important time and for people that work not to 665 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: always know. 666 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: It's just part of the part of the drill. 667 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: Were you blown away that you created a drink that 668 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: is worldwide known and associated with Kerry Bradshaw. 669 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: Well, I you know, I didn't create it. I had 670 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: nothing to do with it. I know that when we 671 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: first started drinking them on the show, the ones on 672 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 3: the show were that kind of cosmopolitan that you later 673 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 3: learn are not the good ones. They were first of all, 674 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 3: ours weren't real. They were cranberry juice and water. But 675 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: there is You can go to a bar and be 676 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: served a cosmopolitan that is like just cranberry juice. You 677 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 3: know what, It's like, almost Bordeaux colored. It's like a 678 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: pinky kind of Bordeaux or ferry color. So I never 679 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 3: drank cobs and Politans. I thought they were terrible. You're drink, 680 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 3: So it was years and years, I would people would 681 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 3: send them over to me so kindly. People would send 682 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 3: them over and I would say thank you and raise 683 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: the glass and take a sip and think like, what 684 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: is the what it's all the fuss about? And then 685 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 3: one day I was somewhere and someone sent a Cosmopolitan 686 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 3: over and it was opaque, pale, pink, fleshy, like you 687 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 3: could see the a little bit of pulp of whatever 688 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: citrus had been used with a twist, freezing cold. And 689 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is a Cosmopolitan. I get 690 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: it now and I love them now. And that's been 691 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: I would say, I really started drinking Cosmopolitans that I 692 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: chose on my own and would order I'm going to 693 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 3: say like six seven years ago, and I love them. 694 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 3: I don't know that we ever expected from the show, 695 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: from drinking them that it would turn into a thing. 696 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 2: Well. 697 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean that, I think just again testament to all 698 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: the touch points and the power of the show in 699 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: the zeitgeist of the moment that people were like, oh 700 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: and the creation of Carrie Bradshaw that with the influence 701 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: that this. 702 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: Character had, Yeah, that funny. You can't think about these 703 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: things too much, and you can't try to write. 704 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: Right, you can't create them. 705 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 3: It has to be from the story and true, or 706 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: it just looks like you're just trying to make a moment. 707 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're trying to achieve the end result, 708 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: you're gonnat that you can't. 709 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 2: You got it. 710 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 3: It's I always say, like, you can't start with a 711 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 3: result and then write kind of into it backwards like that. 712 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 3: It's just awful. 713 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica and I have had such a fun and 714 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: delicious lunch today. 715 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: Thank you all for pulling up a chair. I hope 716 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 2: you have two. 717 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: But as our time together comes to an end, I 718 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: want to congratulate Sarah Jessica on twenty five years of 719 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: Sex in the City and hear her thoughts about its 720 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: continued success. We sort of are wrapping up our lunch spark, 721 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: and I just want to say, I like everyone's listening. 722 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: There's like a lot of stuff for you to, like, 723 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: I hope, lean into when it comes to Sarah Jessica Parker, 724 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: which is not just and just like that, which is 725 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: congratulations so good. I mean, it's just amazing, and you know, 726 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: I love it. 727 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: And thanks to everybody who's been watching it and who 728 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: has been part of the family of it for so long. 729 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 3: You know, we just celebrated the twenty fifth anniversary of 730 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 3: Sex and City, and it's hard to try to communicate 731 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 3: or articulate the kind of I always use the word gratitude, 732 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: but for the the gratitude that we feel for the 733 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 3: people who have chosen to keep us in their lives. 734 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 3: You know, we weren't on a free television station. People 735 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 3: made choices about how they were going to spend the 736 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 3: time and how are they were going to spend their money, 737 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 3: to be honest, and kept us in their lives for 738 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 3: twenty five years and have joined us on this next 739 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 3: chapter with such enthusiasm and such spirit and goodwill and excitement. 740 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 3: And it's obviously the only reason we do it is 741 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 3: for this audience who has been a point of inspiration 742 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 3: for us and been loving and hard on us and 743 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: have really high expectations. So it's an honor to try 744 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 3: to do right by this long relationship. 745 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: Well, it is joyful to watch, and I thank you 746 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: for giving me twenty five years of that and a 747 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: very long real friendship. 748 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 2: Oh my god, very meaningful. I love you too. 749 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 3: I love you more than all the other people who 750 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 3: come on this show. I know you better, I love 751 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: you more. 752 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 2: You know what, it's very back at you. It's a 753 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: context anyway. 754 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 3: Everyone's like, oh, you don't know. 755 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: Don't forget to go online read the review of the. 756 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: Gannette and it Typically I've got a couple people on vacation. 757 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 3: My editor on holiday for a couple of days, typically 758 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 3: takes the weekend, which I want to give him because 759 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 3: you know, you're on twenty four to seven when you're 760 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 3: in the newspaper business. So I'll make sure your followers 761 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 3: know how to win it posts. 762 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, bom, some of you guys still. 763 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 3: Get the hard copies of your local newspapers and you 764 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 3: know who you are. 765 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: Anyway, Thank you for listening today on Table for two. 766 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: You got it. 767 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 3: Love you Smokey, how fun? 768 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: I Love you too. 769 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 5: Table for two with Bruce Bosi is produced by iHeartRadio 770 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 5: seven three seven Park and Airmail. Our executive producers are 771 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 5: Bruce Bosi and Nathan King. 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