Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getti and no He Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3: So we have millions of people, most of them are bad,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you. And by the way, if
Speaker 3: Republicans don't get them out, you will never win another
Speaker 3: election as a Republican. If you don't get these these
Speaker 3: people are all opened.
Speaker 2: So they vote and.
Speaker 3: They make Alda's crap with the voting. Oh well, you
Speaker 3: can vote, you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: How you can get these people to vote. And if
Speaker 3: we don't get them out, Republicans will never win another election.
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't want to spend a lot of time
Speaker 4: on this, but a lot of your news outlets are
Speaker 4: leading with it, because Troy, you don't have time to
Speaker 4: worry about the constitution. Jan Trump did what he did
Speaker 4: does yesterday, trolled mainstream media and everybody who hates him.
Speaker 4: He said on that podcast with Dan Bongino that the
Speaker 4: Republicans should nationalize the elections.
Speaker 2: So that has gone crazy everywhere. New York Times.
Speaker 4: Trump and an escalation calls for Republicans to nationalized elections.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah. People nuts people, there's head
Speaker 4: to exploding. Mark Alpern his newsletter today, Should you take
Speaker 4: this literally or seriously?
Speaker 2: Neither. I agree. It's just he's just trolling, and it's
Speaker 2: just what he does. Whatever.
Speaker 4: Although you know, you know, January sixth happens, so I
Speaker 4: can understand how I think sometimes he says something maybe
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 5: But there have been a couple of really good opinion
Speaker 5: pieces lately. One was entitled Trump Not Unchained. I think
Speaker 5: that may have been the Wall Street Journal editorial board
Speaker 5: and the Free Press has been talking about how some
Speaker 5: of the proposals that are out there that shouldn't get through,
Speaker 5: they don't right the market or the bond market, or
Speaker 5: the Republican leadership or the courts or our allies say nope,
Speaker 5: and then it doesn't happen. No, it is unprecedented the
Speaker 5: extent to which Trump will troll. Joe Biden did a
Speaker 5: lot too, with like the loan forgiveness crap that was
Speaker 5: never going to happen. It was unconstitutional. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: not really worried about this one.
Speaker 4: No, God, no, the number of things you would have
Speaker 4: to do, get various Congress and states and all these
Speaker 4: different things to get on board with just never going
Speaker 4: to happen. I find the Dan Bongino story kind of
Speaker 4: interesting that he was a really successful, out there fringy
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory, hardcore red meat right podcaster, and then he
Speaker 4: got drafted to do a real job to rescind some
Speaker 4: of the things he'd talked about in the past and
Speaker 4: stick only to facts and show up in a tie
Speaker 4: and be told what to do.
Speaker 5: And he did it for a little while and thought,
Speaker 5: I want to go back to doing a podcast. First
Speaker 5: of all, paid better. Oh yeah, vastly better, vastly better.
Speaker 5: Right now, he's unbound by what's true. He can just
Speaker 5: say whatever he wants and entertain his audience. So anyway,
Speaker 5: good for him. Government work is who not for everybody.
Speaker 5: So speaking of being a I hesitate to use the
Speaker 5: word journalist, provider of content, content creator. You got America's
Speaker 5: bitterest fruit, Don Lemon.
Speaker 4: We missed the hym coming into the Grammys as a
Speaker 4: clip yesterday. Did you see that standing ovation everybody cheering
Speaker 4: like crazy when Don Lemon was announced being there?
Speaker 2: You know, I already hated the modern world and the
Speaker 2: world of the Grammys.
Speaker 5: And now you've you've somehow stoked the fires of my
Speaker 5: hatred to like consuming a city level.
Speaker 2: Cause you're lifting up Don Lemon as a hero, all.
Speaker 5: Right, who busted in with a bunch of marks and
Speaker 5: screamed and yelled and intimidated a church service into stopping.
Speaker 5: That's your hero, Don effing Lemon. I want to look
Speaker 5: for another line of work. I'm gonna have a heart attack.
Speaker 5: This is too much, too much anyway speaking, you know what,
Speaker 5: I can hardly restrain myself from from using naughty words
Speaker 5: that people should not hear.
Speaker 2: Well, he's out of jail now, right though.
Speaker 4: He he got he got jailed, and now he's out,
Speaker 4: and now he's gonna be charged with some sort of crime.
Speaker 4: And is this gonna be your daughters, I mean, your
Speaker 4: son's don pact on the streets.
Speaker 2: Wow. I had to do something to improve my own mood,
Speaker 2: all right. I had to amuse myself.
Speaker 5: I had to switch off the bitter the bitter pipe
Speaker 5: and turn on the amused pipe.
Speaker 2: Yes, Michael, it amused me too, thank you. But so
Speaker 2: is this gonna be? This is good?
Speaker 4: Like we talked about last week. Kind of an interesting
Speaker 4: constitutional question, oh beyond it, like if I can, like,
Speaker 4: you know, do something crazy and then immediately I got
Speaker 4: my cell phone on. I'm a journalist, so hey, you
Speaker 4: know I can do whatever I want. Yeah, Rubinfeld does
Speaker 4: a lot of writing.
Speaker 5: He's a professional constitutional law at Yale Law School, free
Speaker 5: speech lawyer. He writes through the Free Press, among others.
Speaker 5: And so the question is is Lemon potentially criminally liable
Speaker 5: for invading the church service and forcing it to stop,
Speaker 5: which is absolutely clearly a First Amendment violation, or is
Speaker 5: he constitutionally protected as a journalist. The short answer, there's
Speaker 5: no such thing as journalistic community and criminal law. So yes,
Speaker 5: he's potentially criminally liable, but proving he committed a crime
Speaker 5: will be quite difficult. And he points out many journalists
Speaker 5: seem to imagine that they can't be prosecuted if all
Speaker 5: they're doing is covering the news. And usually that's true,
Speaker 5: but reality's not so simple. By his own admission, Lemon
Speaker 5: met with the Cities Church protest group in advance, knew
Speaker 5: a lot about what they were planning to do, when
Speaker 5: and where they're planning to do it, kept those facts secret,
Speaker 5: and then entered and film the event while it was
Speaker 5: taking place. Now, imagine a journalist did all that, but
Speaker 5: the event being planned was a murder instead of a
Speaker 5: church service invasion. If you're an accomplice to a crime,
Speaker 5: videotaping the criminal act and streaming that video does not
Speaker 5: make you immune from prosecution. That would be a get
Speaker 5: out of jail free card. And given the fact that
Speaker 5: everybody has a phone and the means to disseminate what
Speaker 5: they record, there can be no immunity for journalists, on
Speaker 5: the other hand, dragging this to court and indicting them
Speaker 5: under US Code Title eighteen, section two forty.
Speaker 2: One conspiracy against rights.
Speaker 4: Well, on the other hand, would be you can't have
Speaker 4: journalists afraid to cover any story where people might get arrested,
Speaker 4: because they could just get arrested too. So you know,
Speaker 4: journalists all of a sudden can't what cover protests or
Speaker 4: anything or right right, that wouldn't be any good.
Speaker 2: But I'm our old news guy Marshall Phillips.
Speaker 4: He'd have been good to ask about this because he
Speaker 4: got arrested once as a journalist covering a green Peace story.
Speaker 4: And it's a very similar Don Lemon sort of thing.
Speaker 4: Because he was a journalist covering the story when they
Speaker 4: did something.
Speaker 2: I forget what they did. They broke into a I
Speaker 2: don't know, a place where they're abusing.
Speaker 4: A toad or something. I don't know, some water pipes
Speaker 4: or something or other. But he also was in agreement
Speaker 4: with their cause as a journalist, so he was like
Speaker 4: half an activist and journalist. But he got thrown in
Speaker 4: jail with the rest of them, and I don't remember
Speaker 4: how it turned out, but similar sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the laws are too vague. This is heading for
Speaker 5: the Supreme Court probably in thirty seven years because they
Speaker 5: delay as long as they possible.
Speaker 4: Okay, the idea of a major Supreme Court case being
Speaker 4: named for Don Lemon hurts my heart.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you'll remember in Lemon they ruled.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, I'm back to being bitter again. I was
Speaker 5: fine there for a second. Now you've made me angry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody agrees that.
Speaker 5: No, there's not some sort of blanket immunity, some get
Speaker 5: out of jail free card, blah blah blah, But nobody
Speaker 5: can figure out how to untangle it. If the test
Speaker 5: seems to be and the indictment actually that was filed
Speaker 5: seems to be leaning on several acts Lemon engaged in
Speaker 5: that look a lot like intentional assistance. For example, while
Speaker 5: live streaming before the event, Lemon kept his distance while
Speaker 5: the protesters were strategizing to keep critical information hidden, thank
Speaker 5: them and reminded them not to disclose the target of
Speaker 5: the operation on the live stream. Arguably that's knowing, encouragement
Speaker 5: and facilitation of the conduct, an attempt to help them succeed. Indeed,
Speaker 5: it seems Lemon was giving them advice to help them succeed. Yeah,
Speaker 5: clearly he is guilty of a vague law, the so
Speaker 5: called face freedom of access to clinic entrances, which makes
Speaker 5: it a crime to obstruct people in a church with
Speaker 5: the intent to intimidate or interface with anyone trying to
Speaker 5: worship there. But obstruction is defined narrowly. It means completely
Speaker 5: blocking an entrance or exit or quote, rendering passage to
Speaker 5: her from the church unreasonably difficult or hazardous.
Speaker 2: Did he do that?
Speaker 5: No evidence we've seen suggests he did, writes mister Rubenfeld.
Speaker 5: He could still be guilty as an aider or a
Speaker 5: better but so the law says. As long as I say, now, remember, folks,
Speaker 5: the exit is right here. And you should feel free
Speaker 5: to use it. I can just run into any church
Speaker 5: service I want and scream and yell obscenities.
Speaker 2: Are up with Marxism or down with Ice or whatever.
Speaker 4: Since we're talking about Ice, two things ice adjacent. Obviously,
Speaker 4: at the Grammys the other night, that was a hot topic.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize the Lady Gaga stuff we played where
Speaker 4: she got up there and condemned Ice and all that
Speaker 4: different sort of stuff. She was doing it live from Japan,
Speaker 4: one of the hardest countries to immigrate to in the
Speaker 4: entire world. They allow basically nobody who's not Japanese to
Speaker 4: come into the country. Screaming and cheering for open borders
Speaker 4: in America when she says, you know, we should, nobody
Speaker 4: could be illegal and all that sort of crap. So
Speaker 4: in the country she is in, absolutely nobody can come in.
Speaker 4: But yay for your country. Letting whoever the hell end
Speaker 4: all the time. And California introducing a bill that would
Speaker 4: bar ICE employees from becoming cops or teachers anywhere.
Speaker 2: In the state Illinois.
Speaker 4: If you ever worked at California, if you would ever
Speaker 4: work California or Ice, if you ever worked for ICE,
Speaker 4: you can't be a copper. A teacher in California would
Speaker 4: be that is.
Speaker 5: So patently idiotic and I can't even summon the energy
Speaker 5: to comment on it is performative and it is what
Speaker 5: we do now, which is just waiting.
Speaker 2: Well, that's one word for it.
Speaker 5: I wonder if Lady Giga would say, I would prefer
Speaker 5: this actually she were to say, oh, yeah, I know,
Speaker 5: I know it's ridiculous, but our young audience they all
Speaker 5: believe this crap.
Speaker 2: They've been taught it in school.
Speaker 5: So if I say something like that, they see me
Speaker 5: as like their friend andtor and all. But of course, yeah,
Speaker 5: nothing could be more ridiculous than advocating what I advocated
Speaker 5: from Japan.
Speaker 2: It's hilariously ironic.
Speaker 5: I would prefer that sort of dishonesty and cynicism to
Speaker 5: the simple minded, you know, stupidity that I think it
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Speaker 4: So Drake made the big quarterback for the Patriots. Him
Speaker 4: and his wife very the very nice story. I thought
Speaker 4: we got a talking about his wife's bake goods. That's
Speaker 4: how he got into the zitnam n roll thing, and
Speaker 4: then then another new thing that's gonna happen with the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl on Sunday. If you don't like their halftime show,
Speaker 4: there is a there's another option, which makes us even
Speaker 4: more divided.
Speaker 2: That seems to be the theme of the week. Lots
Speaker 2: of stuff on the way. Stay here.
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Speaker 6: the linemen this week. That's my number one. Puppy Chow.
Speaker 6: I'll put puppy chow number number three. Gustachio Brad. I
Speaker 6: think it's good.
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan.
Speaker 6: I'll put that a four in the crumble. Coffy Casher
Speaker 6: fie up with that too.
Speaker 4: That's Drake May, the quarterback of the Patriots, asked to
Speaker 4: rank his wife's baked.
Speaker 2: Goods one through five.
Speaker 4: Oh, because she has a she has an Instagram thing
Speaker 4: where she she bakes. And I thought, well, first of all,
Speaker 4: I'd never really heard him interviewed. He's very like normal
Speaker 4: seeming guy. They've been together since they were twelve. Wow,
Speaker 4: him and his wife, And I thought, okay, is this
Speaker 4: one of those athlete things, you know, like some of
Speaker 4: the football player's wives are golfer's wives. Were they're super
Speaker 4: hot and they and they they start their own career
Speaker 4: as a hottie. No, she looks like a mom and
Speaker 4: a wife in the kitchen showing how to bake cinnamon rolls.
Speaker 4: So she's got a thing where it's all about baking
Speaker 4: and stuff.
Speaker 5: All right, So she's not an enormous breasted bikini model,
Speaker 5: you know, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I assumed it was.
Speaker 4: Well, she's not dressed in such a way that you
Speaker 4: would really know, but that there's anything wrong with bucksomeness. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I'm kind of turned off by the whole athletes. Okay, Now,
Speaker 4: your hot wife has got her own career being your wife,
Speaker 4: and where the bikini and the influencers. I thought it
Speaker 4: was a very nice, cool night. It seemed like normal
Speaker 4: people thing.
Speaker 2: So what's puppy chow? Do we know?
Speaker 4: I don't know what that baked good is that. I'll
Speaker 4: bet it too. I'll bet it is too. Two other
Speaker 4: super Bowl notes before.
Speaker 7: Move on, one to combat what I guess they think
Speaker 7: will be a super Bowl not for them, Bad Bunny
Speaker 7: the halftime show and Roger Goodell, who's the commissioner of
Speaker 7: the NFL, came out yesterday and he said he he
Speaker 7: has been talking with Bad Bunnies people and he doesn't
Speaker 7: expect there to be any controversy, just a good halftime
Speaker 7: performance by the number one streamed music artist in the
Speaker 7: world and etceterat cetera. Okay, say that if you want.
Speaker 7: I think there will be some politics.
Speaker 5: I wonder because I know the NFL has full approval
Speaker 5: of everything that happens, and I'll bet they hold a
Speaker 5: big chunk of change back.
Speaker 2: Yah, maybe they do that.
Speaker 4: If I'm bad Bunny, just to make sure you're total line.
Speaker 4: If I'm Bad Bunny, I just focus on my music.
Speaker 2: But that's me.
Speaker 4: But if you don't, if you don't like that. Turning point,
Speaker 4: USA is having a counter programming halftime show at the
Speaker 4: same time that they're putting together, including Kid Rock and
Speaker 4: a couple other.
Speaker 2: People that you can watch if you want to do that.
Speaker 2: So there we go. So now we're gonna.
Speaker 4: All watch our own individual politicized halftime shows, and you
Speaker 4: have even fewer. We want to get rid of that
Speaker 4: last common experience that we can talk about. Yeah, let's
Speaker 4: get rid of the last common thing that we all watch,
Speaker 4: shared experience, right, get rid of them all. How about
Speaker 4: I just talk to my friends and eat and drink
Speaker 4: too much, and then this one you'll kind of only
Speaker 4: get if you're a forty nine Ers fan. I got
Speaker 4: this text from a Seahawks fan friend of mine yesterday.
Speaker 4: We're corresponding back and forth about the Epstein files, which
Speaker 4: I want to talk about coming up later. But he said, oh,
Speaker 4: and by the way, my Seahawks are going to win
Speaker 4: the super Bowl in the forty nine ers stadium and
Speaker 4: you can't stop us. That is a pretty good flex
Speaker 4: if you're because that's quite a rivalry. That's quite a rivalry.
Speaker 4: We're gonna win the super Bowl in your stadium. You
Speaker 4: aren't there, well, you're you're well, all right, I'm rooting
Speaker 4: for the Patriots because of the Cinnamon rules.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not only did we spank you and send you home,
Speaker 5: We're gonna come into your house and win the.
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and hoist the trophy. So enjoy that, oh,
Speaker 2: you bastard the Ospreys. Oh, there's a fair amount of angst.
Speaker 5: By the way, in San Jose, which is Santa Clara's
Speaker 5: might as well be to say.
Speaker 2: It's all part of the South Bay and very close
Speaker 2: to each other.
Speaker 5: All the festivities, all the sexy stuff is happening in
Speaker 5: San Francisco, which is, you know, quite a drive if
Speaker 5: there's any traffic at all from Santa Clara as.
Speaker 2: Opposed to in beautiful San Jose. How long have they
Speaker 2: taken traffic?
Speaker 5: The San josers is the inhabitants are known are saying,
Speaker 5: what's happening there.
Speaker 4: Ontown San Francisco to Santa Clair. How long in traffic?
Speaker 4: Hour and a half in traffic?
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably you're probably looking at two hours.
Speaker 4: That's not exactly. If you're on the East Coast, you'd
Speaker 4: be going through three states.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, anyway, there's another Super Bowl note I wanted
Speaker 5: to get to or it doesn't matter. Oh hey, can
Speaker 5: I squeeze in one more thing about the Don Lemon thing?
Speaker 5: Number one, Don Lemon ought to be in jail or
Speaker 5: getting ass beaten. But certainly we never encourage violence in
Speaker 5: the Armstrong You Getty show, and that nobody should. That
Speaker 5: may be the only legal recourse. I'm not sure an
Speaker 5: ass beating is quote unquote illegal recourse, but I almost
Speaker 5: left out. Eric Rossbach, who's Vice president Senior Councilor at
Speaker 5: the Beckett Fund for Religious Liberty, said this, neither journalists
Speaker 5: or protesters enjoy any constitutional right to invade someone else's
Speaker 5: private space.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: By Lemon's logic, the KKK could claim a First Amendment
Speaker 5: right to storm a black church during services and stage
Speaker 5: of protest. Wow, that gets the First Amendment completely backwards.
Speaker 5: You defenders of Don Lemon, help me understand how that's
Speaker 5: not exactly right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see a logical flaw there off the
Speaker 4: top of my head.
Speaker 2: We can talk to Laura any thoughts.
Speaker 4: Text Line four one kftc Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1: Trump allies and Iron Hawks are putting pressure on the
Speaker 1: White House in the wake of the Iranian regime's deadly
Speaker 1: protest crackdown.
Speaker 8: President Trump, you said, help is on the way. That
Speaker 8: has to be real. It has to be real soon.
Speaker 8: You're Reagan. Plus, this is the defining moment in your presidency.
Speaker 2: Stand by the people.
Speaker 8: The Iola falls, the region changes bigger than the fall
Speaker 8: of the Berlin Wall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Sunday and Lindsey Graham. I think appealing
Speaker 4: to Trump's place in history, which is, you know, not
Speaker 4: just a Trump thing. And lots of people have done
Speaker 4: that with presidents, whether it's Abraham Lincoln or Prime Winston
Speaker 4: Churchill or whatever people appealing to the w Bush sure,
Speaker 4: I'm sure your role in history with this big decision
Speaker 4: to make before we get a little more of the
Speaker 4: where things are now with our negotiations with Iran in
Speaker 4: Bremer tweeted out last night, Trump is demanding far more
Speaker 4: than the old nuclear deal in Iran is unlikely to agree.
Speaker 4: That leaves force in the risk of a wider war
Speaker 4: with real consequences for oil and geopolitics.
Speaker 2: If the us h's Iran's leadership, which I think.
Speaker 4: We would, oil spike markets will react in Russia and
Speaker 4: China will be paying attention. Unlike Venezuela, this is going
Speaker 4: to be very hard to keep a local history has
Speaker 4: got so many examples of this sort of thing, where
Speaker 4: you know, you overreact or underreact the most recent event
Speaker 4: and then things swing wildly the other way, and like,
Speaker 4: so we had this incredibly huge success in Venezuela with
Speaker 4: the military build up and no fallout, no loss of
Speaker 4: life and all that sort of thing, and then you
Speaker 4: start to feel a little invincible, and then maybe you know,
Speaker 4: hitting Iran turns into a like the history of many
Speaker 4: many wars, much longer and more difficult than you thought.
Speaker 2: It was going to be.
Speaker 5: I would certainly hope we're working our Gulf state frontemies
Speaker 5: behind the scenes as vigorously as possible.
Speaker 4: God, I hope so too. Why wouldn't in Saudi Arabia
Speaker 4: like want to join in. Let's do in Iran once
Speaker 4: and for good, your main enemy, let's.
Speaker 2: Just finish them off. I think a you got two things.
Speaker 5: Number One, if I assume they're being sincere, it's a
Speaker 5: desire to avoid chaos because you never know what's going
Speaker 5: to happen. They feel like Iran is contained, it's weak.
Speaker 5: We can live with the status quo, says NBS.
Speaker 2: For instance, right now.
Speaker 5: But it's also possible that it's insincere that they and
Speaker 5: this is the longtime story of our quote unquote partners
Speaker 5: in the Middle East. Behind the scenes, they say, yeah,
Speaker 5: we totally get it. We know what you got to do.
Speaker 2: Go ahead and do it.
Speaker 5: But you understand, we've got to be out saying this
Speaker 5: is an outrage, this cannot stand. We are against imperialism.
Speaker 5: We're not going to do anything about it, but to
Speaker 5: keep our people quiet, we've got to act like we're
Speaker 5: against it.
Speaker 2: And maybe what's going on.
Speaker 4: Here, here's a little more of Jennifer Griffin on Fox
Speaker 4: laying out what's happening right now.
Speaker 1: After a warning from Syentcom, Iran now says it has
Speaker 1: no plans to carry out live fire exercises in the
Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz, despite announcing last week the IRGC Navy
Speaker 1: would be holding drills in the Narrow Strait. In the
Speaker 1: Red Sea, the guided missile destroyer USS Delbert D. Black
Speaker 1: conducted a joint military exercise with Israel Sunday.
Speaker 4: Oh, Americans should know that if they start a war
Speaker 4: this time, it will be a regional war.
Speaker 1: President Trump said he plans to give negotiations a chance.
Speaker 2: Right now, we're talking to them.
Speaker 3: We're talking to Iran, and if we can watch something
Speaker 3: out that'd be great.
Speaker 5: And if we can't, probably.
Speaker 2: Bad things would happen.
Speaker 4: Probably bad things would happen. We have a lot of
Speaker 4: firepower there right now, and we're bringing more in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is really a unique set of circumstances. I mean,
Speaker 5: Iran's power structure is weird. Nobody quite understands it. If
Speaker 5: we were to hit them hard and the possibility of
Speaker 5: a regional war looms, what's the IRGC gonna do? Are
Speaker 5: they going to break off from the Ayatola and having
Speaker 5: no desire to see their incredibly profitable fiefdom undone, they'll
Speaker 5: reach out to the Trump administration quite possibly and say, look,
Speaker 5: we're ready to do business. We got rid O, weird beard,
Speaker 5: or you helped us too. Let's say all come to
Speaker 5: hell down. We don't need nukes.
Speaker 4: Who knows how religious are they? I don't think anybody
Speaker 4: really knows that.
Speaker 5: It's probably a mix of fundamentalists and you know, just materialists,
Speaker 5: greed heads. How about the people? Where do the people
Speaker 5: of Iran flow on? This depends on the nature of
Speaker 5: the attacks and how sustained. I mean, they can send
Speaker 5: rockets to and fro in a way that will hurt people,
Speaker 5: kill people, and damage a hell of a lot of property,
Speaker 5: including some of our best and brightest kids. And I
Speaker 5: don't want that for a second. But beyond that.
Speaker 2: What are you going to have like the.
Speaker 5: The Republican Guard, the Iranians army attacks Saudi Arabia in
Speaker 5: an effort to I don't know something, uh it just
Speaker 5: I mean, if there are a hell of a lot
Speaker 5: of potential conflicts in the world that if you know
Speaker 5: anything about it, you can guess.
Speaker 2: Okay, they're either going to do this or that.
Speaker 5: There's like, you know, I hate to indulge in the cliche,
Speaker 5: but they're like you know, riddles wrapped in conundrums, wrapped
Speaker 5: in you know, mysteries with Iran and how they might react.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, I was thinking about it. You
Speaker 2: abutsuaded me the other day.
Speaker 5: Warhawk Jack Armstrong with the status quo is awful, and
Speaker 5: there's no indication that the status quot will get less
Speaker 5: awful except maybe in the near term because they're scared,
Speaker 5: and so they're going to pretend to negotiate for a
Speaker 5: while like they've done a dozen other times. But Iran's
Speaker 5: going to keep Iranan unless something changes fundamentally.
Speaker 2: It's tempting. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was doing a deep dive on the Punic Wars yesterday.
Speaker 4: I was listening to a podcast about Hannibal invading the
Speaker 4: Roman Empire and that whole story and either know it
Speaker 4: or you don't, But I don't Carsage Carthage, right, And
Speaker 4: that's what I was going to bring up, is Carthage,
Speaker 4: which was.
Speaker 2: Carthage in my knees.
Speaker 4: It's all worn out, a little area in North Africa
Speaker 4: that was and this this is the only reason I
Speaker 4: bring this up is just all empires fall. We will
Speaker 4: at some point, they all do, and when it happens,
Speaker 4: you know, who knows. But Carthage was the mayor, major
Speaker 4: player in that area of the world for.
Speaker 2: Six hundred years.
Speaker 4: But then finally, you know, a new power like China
Speaker 4: or whatever, the world changes, and that was Rome absolutely
Speaker 4: just laid waste to the place, eventually just destroyed it.
Speaker 4: There's still ruins there, but I mean, it just never
Speaker 4: even grew back as a city.
Speaker 5: I couldn't have told you what continent Carthage was on.
Speaker 5: I assumed it was in Europe somewhere, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a North Africa Tunis was right across
Speaker 4: like a glorified lake from europe Y, which is part
Speaker 4: of the reason for their immigration problems obviously. Yeah, short
Speaker 4: boat ride and they would go over there and ruled
Speaker 4: by that whole area for a very very long time.
Speaker 4: But and then this is a side. This has nothing
Speaker 4: to do with anything other than I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2: One of the.
Speaker 4: Greatest blood lettings in the history of warfare on the
Speaker 4: planet is Hannibal, and I don't forget which battle it was,
Speaker 4: but he ended up surrounding the Roman army and basically
Speaker 4: destroyed the Roman army. They killed they think between sixty
Speaker 4: and eighty thousand Roman soldiers in one day. They had
Speaker 4: him so with swords. Can you imagine what a physical
Speaker 4: job that would be.
Speaker 2: You'd get so.
Speaker 5: Tired from hacking people apart. I mean you'd have to
Speaker 5: go rest for a couple hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did have to rest.
Speaker 4: They had to rest for days, which played into them
Speaker 4: not moving forward to Rome and ending up taking over
Speaker 4: the Roman Empire and then Rome fights back blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But you know, take a history class you want to
Speaker 2: learn that. But just unbelievable.
Speaker 4: The writings about what that was like, in the hot
Speaker 4: heat and the blood everywhere and everything, just stunning.
Speaker 2: God, the world is gruesome. It is. It is.
Speaker 5: It's horrifying, and it's difficult for modern people, with our
Speaker 5: technology and our comfortable lives and our sophistication to imagine.
Speaker 2: And we all act like it's in the past.
Speaker 4: Right, and it could happen again so easily if you
Speaker 4: don't have somebody that keeps the order like the United
Speaker 4: States has for the last eighty years.
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Speaker 2: So I am no warmonger.
Speaker 5: I think I just understand that armed conflict will never
Speaker 5: go away from humankind. You got to be smart, You've
Speaker 5: got to be judicious. You cannot spend lives carelessly. That's
Speaker 5: an obscene thing to do. On the other hand, can
Speaker 5: you imagine describing to any sort of political expert or historian. Okay,
Speaker 5: here's an empire that wants to keep its empire and
Speaker 5: has been primarily a very benevolent empire. Like what it
Speaker 5: tries to do is spread peace and prosperity. But this
Speaker 5: empire finds itself in a place where if it isn't
Speaker 5: sure the outcome of something, it doesn't do anything.
Speaker 4: It just plays safe. Bets how long lan empire prevent defense?
Speaker 4: You might see it all on Sunday?
Speaker 5: Yeah, how do you like their chances? And now that's
Speaker 5: not an argument for recklessness or spending lives unnecessarily. But
Speaker 5: you've got a maligned force like Iran, which has proved
Speaker 5: for fifty years how rotten and evil they are, and
Speaker 5: they're the weakest they've ever been. You know, beware of
Speaker 5: parallels in history. But I'm reminded of when uh Elois
Speaker 5: Chickel Druber. I don't want to get the bell, when
Speaker 5: Hitler's army was way overstretched and was in the Sudate
Speaker 5: and land. In any decisive blow by the britz Are
Speaker 5: the French would have ended the Third Reich right then.
Speaker 2: But they're like, eh, not exactly ready. We're not sure
Speaker 2: how it and maybe we negotiate more. I don't know.
Speaker 5: And Hitler took that time to reinforce his troops and
Speaker 5: on it went to the horrors that we all know.
Speaker 2: So tough stuff.
Speaker 4: So the clapbacks against Billie Eilish continue, and I'm enjoying
Speaker 4: all of them. I'm enjoying all of them because it
Speaker 4: is give me one of the dumbest things an adult
Speaker 4: has ever said out loud.
Speaker 9: No one is illegal on stolen land.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, go clean your room. Okay, clean your room.
Speaker 5: The adults are talking. Or play me a fine meloon
Speaker 5: because you're good at that, but lay off anything that
Speaker 5: involves critical thinking. But anyway, I've got a little of
Speaker 5: that and a bunch of other stuff on the way.
Speaker 2: Stay here, Armstrong Engetti.
Speaker 10: Eilish's multimillion dollar home is located on tribal lands. A
Speaker 10: spokesperson for the tribe tell the Daily Mail, we do
Speaker 10: understand that her home is situated in our ancestral land.
Speaker 10: We do value the instance when public figures provide visibility
Speaker 10: to the true history of this country.
Speaker 4: So that was a very nice way of the Indian
Speaker 4: tribe saying, oh, yeah, if it's stolen land, your house
Speaker 4: is on behigbout you give us your house.
Speaker 5: And at the same time the notion that you know,
Speaker 5: my ancestors hundreds of years ago used to hang around here,
Speaker 5: so it's essentially mine.
Speaker 2: What No, it's not.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, so this person calling Wright commented on this,
Speaker 4: and this is this is pretty good.
Speaker 2: Is Billie Eilish saying no human is illegal on stolen land.
Speaker 9: No one is illegal on stolen land.
Speaker 4: Which is you know, really ranks and the crowd cheered.
Speaker 4: So all of those people need to be held to account.
Speaker 2: Those of you jeered, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: You've got to bring back up that James Lindsay analysis
Speaker 5: of that sentence, how it's a very reminiscent of maoist
Speaker 5: slogans because it doesn't really make any sense, but you think,
Speaker 5: what yeah, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the way it appeals to pleasure centers in your
Speaker 4: brain in certain ways these slogans, but it's confusing, so.
Speaker 2: It turns off your logical Yes, yes, that's so. What's
Speaker 2: so interesting?
Speaker 4: And we've all had that experience even if we're you know,
Speaker 4: Ramrod straight enough to ignore it and know you're not
Speaker 4: gonna get me with this, but you can feel in
Speaker 4: your brain it's like, Okay, it's got some nice words
Speaker 4: in there that sound pretty good, and I don't quite
Speaker 4: know why, but this is wrong. It's weird. It's weird
Speaker 4: how that stuff works. Anyway, this guy tweeted out, you
Speaker 4: cannot simultaneneus believe simultaneously believe these two things. One all
Speaker 4: borders are fake and should not be policed, and two
Speaker 4: that land can be stolen. Those things can't go together,
Speaker 4: right obviously, right, It just doesn't work either. Land belongs
Speaker 4: to everybody who's on it just because they're on it
Speaker 4: or the people before on it, and the other people
Speaker 4: ought to be kept at bay by.
Speaker 5: I don't know a border right, right, God, the internal
Speaker 5: illogic of it is so amazing. And again, the fact
Speaker 5: that anybody can be that nutty or dumb doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 5: But the fact that an auditorium full of people will
Speaker 5: cheer it wildly without spending a single second thinking about
Speaker 5: that contradiction and how dopey it.
Speaker 9: Is illegal on stolen land.
Speaker 2: That makes me insane. You know what we need, You
Speaker 2: know what we need right now?
Speaker 5: We need Ricky Gervas, the Great Ricky Gervas from twenty
Speaker 5: twenty at the Golden Globes Ricky hit It.
Speaker 2: Thirty two. Michael, if you do win an award tonight,
Speaker 2: don't use it as a platform to make a political speech.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: You're in no position to lecture the public about anything.
Speaker 2: You know nothing about the real world. Most of you
Speaker 2: spent less time in school than Greta Thumburg. So if
Speaker 2: you win, right, come up, accept your little award.
Speaker 3: Thank you, agent and your god.
Speaker 4: How he Ricky Travay's actually retweeted that after the Grammys
Speaker 4: and said they just don't learn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't know. Somebody ought to get to them.
Speaker 4: Somebody needed to break through the wall of the sick
Speaker 4: of vans and the handlers and the people who profit
Speaker 4: off of them and say, hey, this is actually doing
Speaker 4: you more harm than good people are. The bulk of
Speaker 4: people hate this. You're cutting off half of your customers
Speaker 4: for no gain. I know they're cheering in this room,
Speaker 4: so you think, oh my god, the whole country wants
Speaker 4: to carry me around on their shoulders. But that's not
Speaker 4: actually what's happening out in the real world. And the
Speaker 4: people who are cheering you were already on your side,
Speaker 4: so you've gained nothing, right, Yeah, ah kill me. Do
Speaker 4: you understand this story? They got a lot of attention yesterday.
Speaker 5: Elon must just plotting going to some Irish village and saying,
Speaker 5: you know, I own this place. My ancestors hundreds of
Speaker 5: years ago they owned it, so it's mine.
Speaker 2: I'd get a chille eley up my watsuo, yes, and
Speaker 2: that would be unpleasant, right up me McGillicuddy.
Speaker 4: So Elon is combining a I with space X, creating
Speaker 4: the world's most valuable private company? Do we understand what
Speaker 4: this means? Seemed to be a big deal. Elon. His
Speaker 4: argument was the most valuable private company in the world.
Speaker 4: He's rolling his whole AI thing into SpaceX together. But
Speaker 4: the e idea is there's just no way you can
Speaker 4: come up with enough energy on planet Earth to run
Speaker 4: what AI is going to require, because it takes so
Speaker 4: much electricity. So he's going to combine the two and
Speaker 4: in space he's going to build these electric generation power plants.
Speaker 4: He's going to build power plants in space because he
Speaker 4: can't do them on planet Earth. And that's going to
Speaker 4: run the AI, and that's why he had to combine
Speaker 4: SpaceX with AI. That's what I said yesterday. And it's
Speaker 4: supposedly a really really big deal.
Speaker 2: And then what do we do? Run an extension cord
Speaker 2: to Pluto. I don't know how that works, but.
Speaker 4: That'll be something if an individual batteries back and forth,
Speaker 4: not a country which has been doing you know, most
Speaker 4: of the big stuff in space forever. And now Elon's
Speaker 4: obviously made his own debt, but ad guy might build
Speaker 4: the first giant power plant in space that's maybe biger
Speaker 4: than anything that's on Earth to power his own stuff,
Speaker 4: which would be his only.
Speaker 2: I've taken it. What cost, no idea.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's a visionary and I'm not so I
Speaker 5: wish him well in the endeavor, but that seems loney
Speaker 5: tunes to me. And all of this while raising thirteen kids,
Speaker 5: it's just incredible.
Speaker 2: I got two kids. I barely have tersary change in diapers.
Speaker 2: I have two kids.
Speaker 4: I barely have time to tie my shoes, and Elon
Speaker 4: can do all these things quite amazing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well so.
Speaker 4: That is a very soh chat GPT is gonna go
Speaker 4: talking about going public. Do you think I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: investing in one of these? I'm want to get in
Speaker 4: and like you know, Nvidia took off. I wish i'd
Speaker 4: gotten in then that five years ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see taking a flyer on something like
Speaker 5: that if you can afford to, you.
Speaker 2: Know, have it go away. Yeah, why not? I don't
Speaker 2: want to be left behind.
Speaker 9: Oh.
Speaker 4: I was reading the other day about all of these
Speaker 4: AI startups that have been acquired in the last year
Speaker 4: or so as the Googles and the Opening Eyes and
Speaker 4: everything like that don't want competition, or you come up
Speaker 4: with a good idea that they want and they just
Speaker 4: throw so much money at these things. I mean, you
Speaker 4: can come up with an idea and in six months
Speaker 4: they give you twenty billion dollars to buy it from
Speaker 4: your just insane amounts of money that are getting thrown
Speaker 4: around the new gold rush in Silicon Valley. Wow, Wow,
Speaker 4: wish I weren't.
Speaker 5: So coming up with gender bending madness update The Cruel
Speaker 5: experiments on confused children may be coming to an end,
Speaker 5: but the woke crowd is not going away without a fight.
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