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Speaker 1: Suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: patri Gets Unfiltered. I just want to set everybody's minded ease.

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Speaker 1: When Fred mentioned at the top that as he said

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Speaker 1: to the team this morning, he meant us, not dot team.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Paul. Fred called a team meeting and Kack

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Speaker 1: Jones and the boys don't listen to French. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do some crack research over the next two days, so

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Speaker 1: I want it right. Quite a few Patriots been selected

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Speaker 1: of that possession over the years. Chandler Jones, you just

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Speaker 1: call him Shan Shandler. That's one of my tips. Shandler.

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Speaker 1: Why I'm saying, what what? What is your French Canadian

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Speaker 1: in him? Because it's French and French is classy. He

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Speaker 1: smoked the guns, what you know, he smoked the chronic

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Speaker 1: at stronic stronic. Right, I'm excited though, Cincinnati here, that'll

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Speaker 1: be that will be fine next year, that'd be fun. Yeah, fine,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah. It's Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here a Chilette Stadium,

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Speaker 1: our first Thursday off season show, and I'm coming to

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Speaker 1: you live from my office. I'm not in the studio

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Speaker 1: because it sounds like you need to pull on the

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Speaker 1: string on that tin can. Yeah, oh it doesn't sound good,

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Speaker 1: Matt said. It sounded good, sounds right now, it's it's

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Speaker 1: all right, it's all right. Yeah, we can help. Fine,

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Speaker 1: we can hear you. Someone snitched me out as a

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Speaker 1: close contact. So I have to I have to. You

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Speaker 1: have to. You don't have COVID your bubble boy today though, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I have to socially distanced. And I figured,

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Speaker 1: you know, being in the studio with you guys for

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Speaker 1: two hours is yeah, not good. That wouldn't be good.

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Speaker 1: Not good. Right, I might get a call from HR.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Paul's out today, Uh, he's actually today would

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Speaker 1: be the day, you know, we'll get people. I was

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Speaker 1: asking for video. Yeah, today would be the day to

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Speaker 1: have a video where Paul is. Oh, I don't know

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Speaker 1: about that, buddy, he's getting his colonoscopy today. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see anything of I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see that doctors like this seems to be a dumping ground.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? To be a fly on the wall

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Speaker 1: for those results? O man, Oh god, it's like, what's

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Speaker 1: going on? You know, I know, well, as hard as

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Speaker 1: the Patriots had it in Buffalo, I don't think anybody's

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Speaker 1: got harder than Paul's doctor right about now, So the

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Speaker 1: oceanographers are there, It's like, do we have a boot

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Speaker 1: playlf George Stanza shows up distracting the golf ball. We

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Speaker 1: hope he's doing well. Yes, we do, we kid, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're We're all gonna be there sooner or sooner. You know,

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Speaker 1: Paul is a pain in the ass sometimes, but now

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Speaker 1: he has a pain in the ass, so well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: wake up. You won't remember a thing, right, all right.

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Speaker 1: It was like Northeastern playbook up all right, So we'll

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Speaker 1: be here for the next two hours. Eight five five

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Speaker 1: passive US taken outline web radio at Patriots dot com

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Speaker 1: is the email address, and the analysis of the two

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Speaker 1: thousand twenty one season continues. Uh, you know, everybody's got there, say,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's going on? I think we went over it, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know pretty well on our last show. We divided

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Speaker 1: it up between the players and the coaches. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: but we're going to continue to talk about that and

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Speaker 1: what should the priorities be going forward? Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think really think it's across the board, don't you

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Speaker 1: work to do. I think it's just a matter of

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Speaker 1: prioritizing now, you know, And Bill is said in the past,

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Speaker 1: you know, when whenever a season ends, whether it's in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, the regular season, the super Bowl, they want

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Speaker 1: to take you know, at least a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: to you know, they need to. They're getting off an

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Speaker 1: but they need to get off and recharge their own,

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Speaker 1: you know, brain cells and figure out, Okay, let's look

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Speaker 1: back at the season now with fresh eyes. What do

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll get past that. But I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: could an explanation there be that the Patriots, you know,

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Speaker 1: wherever we want. You know, we don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about taking a quarterback in the first or second round.

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Speaker 1: We've got that taken care of. Its huge. Yeah, I

427
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Speaker 1: think that's that's that's something that you know, you know

428
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Speaker 1: that you can take it to twenty twenty two that

429
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Speaker 1: you didn't know if you had in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, you can take it into twenty two.

431
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be imperative though, to see

432
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Speaker 1: how much of a jump Mac makes a year two,

433
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Speaker 1: because if we continue to see what we saw throughout

434
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, then clearly he's plateaued. And now you

435
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: have to start thinking longer term. Twenty three, twenty four,

436
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: all right, what do we do? Do we bring a

437
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Speaker 1: veteran in, do we draft an the young kid? Like

438
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 1: you know, this year coming up for Mac is going

439
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: to be even more important than this past year for

440
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: him because you give the rookie, you know, all all

441
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Speaker 1: the all the benefit of the doubt in his first year,

442
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: and I love the fact that he was able to

443
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Speaker 1: take every snap. I love the fact that he got

444
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: at least one playoff game under his belt. Wasn't a

445
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: great one, but at least he got in there. Now,

446
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 1: what can he do in year two? Can he take

447
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: more command of the offense? Can he improve on some

448
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: of those throws that we saw him have trouble with

449
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: this year? Like that, particularly those same routes and some

450
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Speaker 1: of those outpasses, Like can he improve on those kind

451
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Speaker 1: of things? And then I'll be, uh, you know, can

452
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: he lead the team from behind more often? You know?

453
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Speaker 1: Can you don't want to see them be in that position?

454
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Speaker 1: But like, can he operate the offense in such a

455
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Speaker 1: way that you'd feel comfortable if they got down by

456
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: two scores that he'd be able to bring You know,

457
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: it's funny like this will be the first year that

458
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: Mac will have the second year as the starting quarterback

459
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Speaker 1: since high school? Yeah right, I mean he's got an

460
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: Alabama catch his breath, and I mean I don't think

461
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: you can underestimate that, And I yeah, I agree with

462
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: with everything you said. Um, you know, I think what

463
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: just stands out to me too, though, is just how

464
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: resilient Mac was this year. I mean, he he took

465
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 1: he had some tough, tough shots early in the season. Yeah, um,

466
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: a lot of different examples throughout the year of just

467
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: getting his brains bashed a little bit and you know,

468
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 1: having to stay in there and and have that toughness.

469
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Speaker 1: So I just I hope that that translates into just

470
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Speaker 1: a little bit more. And I don't know really what

471
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Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for here, because I don't want

472
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: to say like just some a calm, cool demeanor of

473
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Speaker 1: a starting NFL quarterback. But there's just something you know

474
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Speaker 1: in year two where you see it a little bit.

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, I Burrows kind of always had it, and

476
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: he's probably you know, he's smoking cigars, and you know,

477
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Speaker 1: he's always kind of had that swag a little bit

478
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Speaker 1: um And I know that that's like a stupid, kind

479
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Speaker 1: of like nebulous term of like he got swagged. But

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Speaker 1: I just want to see that confidence in Mac of like,

481
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Speaker 1: you know, you're you're the established starting quarterback, You've got

482
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Speaker 1: a year under your belt, we're gonna we're gonna try

483
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: to get this team around you. We're gonna try to

484
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: build your strengths, and you know, just have that confidence

485
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Speaker 1: that you know, people believe in you. And I mean

486
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: he certainly has the toughness, but I just think there's

487
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Speaker 1: a level of confidence he needs to take over. Think

488
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: about this training camp in offseason. But you know, the

489
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: stuff that we get to see, the mini camp training,

490
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: it's gonna look so different because there's not gonna be

491
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Yeah right, yet the words out of my mouth,

492
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: it's a great point. Right, he comes in, he's the guy, yep,

493
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Speaker 1: right from the start, and I think that's gonna help. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: And every and everything that we watched too was always

495
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Speaker 1: how to Cam do? How to you know, what, how

496
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: to Mac do for a rookie? Well that look good

497
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Speaker 1: for a you know, it's like next year, you're right,

498
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Speaker 1: I mean because even going back two years, you know,

499
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Speaker 1: going into that first year with Cam, like he didn't

500
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Speaker 1: really know and you know, now it's you know who

501
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Speaker 1: the guy is. You know, the reps he's gonna get.

502
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Speaker 1: I assume they'll be joint practices again, so I mean,

503
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Speaker 1: he'll get We're also excited about what he got against

504
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Speaker 1: the Giants when when Cam was out. Now we should

505
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: get that in all of the joint pack. You know,

506
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Speaker 1: he should get the majority of the work and all

507
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Speaker 1: of that which should only help him, you know, continue

508
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Speaker 1: to prepare. But I just I think there's no question

509
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Speaker 1: he has to improve, and they've got to continue to

510
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Speaker 1: put pieces around him to play to his strengths and

511
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Speaker 1: and take the offense to a level where they can

512
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Speaker 1: compete with the teams that are playing this weekend. You

513
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Speaker 1: know what I'm also going to be curious to see

514
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Speaker 1: is do they add a quarterback, a veteran quarterback, you know,

515
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Speaker 1: like just like is Hoyer going to come back again?

516
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Speaker 1: Or if he retires, do they bring another veteran in

517
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Speaker 1: Stidham play the understudy role? How confident do they feel

518
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Speaker 1: in mac will Be? I think um an indication of

519
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Speaker 1: what they do in the quarterback market. Yeah, as as

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Speaker 1: a you know, the backup quarterback market. What do they

521
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Speaker 1: do at the backup position? In O two with like,

522
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Speaker 1: did I'm forgetting after Brady took the job, they traded

523
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Speaker 1: Bledsoe because I know they had was it John Freeze?

524
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Speaker 1: Was that the am I mixing up my former seat?

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Speaker 1: They had they had Rohan Davis, They had Rohan davian

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Speaker 1: O too, so they just went for it. After after

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Speaker 1: they just said Brady you're our guy. Yeah, so, but

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Speaker 1: Stidham in your four whatever it is, I mean that

529
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Speaker 1: that would seems but I don't know. I always see

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Speaker 1: some value in in Brian Hoyer and just the presence

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Speaker 1: he provides. So, I mean, he seems kind of like

532
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Speaker 1: a coach. But I guess it's a good question. I mean,

533
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Speaker 1: I think it will be indicative of is he kind

534
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Speaker 1: of ready to tackle this on his own or does

535
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: is it beneficial for him to just have this experienced

536
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Speaker 1: sounding board with him all the time. Yeah, And you

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Speaker 1: know you speak about you know, coaching and all that.

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Speaker 1: From what I've heard, there has been no outreach for

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel year. Uh. You know, we've heard about Gerard

540
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Speaker 1: Mayo and Ziegler and Wolf and others, but there has

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Speaker 1: not from what i've you know, been able to gather,

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Speaker 1: no team has reached out for Josh mcdan, which selfishly good. Yeah, sure, glad.

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00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Does that'll help mac? Yeah? I mean the NFL dot

544
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: com has a good uh coaching slash GM tracker where

545
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: they've got all They've got the list of everybody who's

546
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 1: been fired, retired, and every buddy who's either had an

547
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: interview or has interview scheduled for any of the openings

548
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: around the league, and there is not one Josh McDaniel's

549
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 1: reference on any of those. You're right right, all right,

550
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: It's a Thursday and Patriots Unfiltered. I'm broadcasting from the office,

551
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: so I know it sounds like I'm with Paul uh

552
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: in Fred's gunn Spelunking eight five five pass five hundred

553
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com. Eric, you're in charge

554
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: of the bones today. That's right. You want to take something,

555
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: you want to start. Yeah, the comrades is stacked, as

556
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: they say, Okay, so we'll start with our buddy Todd

557
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 1: and North Carolina, Matt Todd in North Carolinia. There, there

558
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Speaker 1: you go. You were who the Pew crew said they were.

559
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: You guys said that they're a good, not a great

560
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: team with good coaching that can get them past some stuff,

561
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: and in the long run, the coaching just kind of

562
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: let us down a little bit. But I'm kind of

563
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Speaker 1: excited to think of that. You know, there's gonna be

564
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Speaker 1: a lot of new blood and new chances, and we

565
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: can see what Bill can do with a whole bunch

566
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Speaker 1: of a use movement. Because I think they're going to

567
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: have to do it. I don't think there's any choice

568
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: but to start a little bit over again, to take

569
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: a little bit maybe a step further back, like Christians,

570
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: that this is not a one or two year Christian

571
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Speaker 1: with a ti n Yeah, the original he said, yeah, exactly,

572
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 1: it's not a one year process. And if we get

573
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Speaker 1: caught up in it. It was just really kind of

574
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: devastating to see them just come out so flat. Yeah,

575
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: and no, Todd that, I mean, it's an important point

576
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: that this isn't a one year process. Rebuilds are almost

577
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: never a one year process. Yes, we've seen teams go

578
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: from like worse than their division to first, or teams

579
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: with losing records make the playoffs and make a little

580
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: bit of a run. But that's generally with teams that

581
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: at least have a core there that they trusted. They've

582
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: maybe had a bad season for whatever reason, and then

583
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: they've turned things around quickly, added a free agent, drafted somebody, whatever.

584
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: But when you're going through what this team is going through,

585
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: you lost the greatest quarterback of all time, that that

586
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: you had a year or two with that. Now you're rebuilding,

587
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: you have a defense that's getting older, you're clearly having

588
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: to Uh, you know, you've had some coaches leaving over

589
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. You're starting a new as

590
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: Fred called it the other day, it's a new chapter

591
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: in the franchise's history and it could take it could

592
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: take more than a few years. Well, you gotta be

593
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: patient with this, Yeah, I mean, I just look at it,

594
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Speaker 1: at least from from max contract perspective, because this rookie

595
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: quarterback to right, you're in the sweet spot during this

596
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: period of time four or five years that you don't

597
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: have to pay, you know, an exorbitant price for the

598
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: for a quarterback, which I think they have to take

599
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: advantage of it. And I think, you know, to some extent,

600
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: I think this year will be a little bit of

601
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: a course correction with some of the free agents. Maybe

602
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: they didn't work out, So I mean, I think Aggalore

603
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 1: will be back. But you know, it's only a two

604
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: year deal, so you know, I think that you'll have

605
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of things evening out a little bit

606
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: this year and then probably the following year that's when

607
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: you go again on free agency a little bit and

608
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: try to get those pieces. But you know, I think

609
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: it's a five year plan. Thanks Todd for the call.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to ask everyone a question. Throw this out

611
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: for everyone, because I was thinking about it today because

612
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: again on you know, Paul's shows. I was listening on

613
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: the way he's got so many shows it's hard to

614
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: keep training. They shouldn't have done what they did. They

615
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: should have totally rebuilt. They should have you know, used

616
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: last year as a rebuild here. And the question I

617
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: want to ask is what would that have look like

618
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: to people as opposed to what we saw? What would

619
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Speaker 1: a rebuild year look like? Losing losing record most likely?

620
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, always saw it. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: how different can it be? Like? Right? But I know,

622
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: but like, what what would the personnel moves have been

623
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Speaker 1: in a rebuild here? You know, letting go of aquarter

624
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: like yeah, let going out and trying to get Kyle

625
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: van Noi again, right, Like opening up space with the

626
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: late veterans they got on, Yeah, playing more of your

627
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: younger players and giving them more of an important role

628
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: in seeing what they can do. I mean, the offense

629
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: looks so new. I mean, I don't know how far

630
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: that could be from the blow up that we're talking about.

631
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: The offense essentially was blown up. Yeah, more defensively, you know,

632
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: but I think it was more defensive and just bringing

633
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: those veterans back. And as I said, I mean earlier

634
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: this week, I don't really fault them for trying it.

635
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they had a lot of options. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think that it would have been like we

637
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Speaker 1: would have been in a great position if you had

638
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: gone all year, you know, playing the guys that they have.

639
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, what I've read between the

640
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: lines is that they don't really believe those guys are

641
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: the guys and so had they played them, it probably

642
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: would have been much worse. And I think people are

643
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: assuming that if you just played those guys last year,

644
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: that that that means next year they'll be good like well,

645
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: but I think that that brings up the point of

646
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: did they think they had a chance so to win

647
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: or to make a playoff push? Is that why they

648
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: kept those older guys, and that because they trusted them more.

649
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: If they didn't have have that that confidence, maybe they

650
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: would have gone with these younger guys. We can guarantee

651
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: you if if we go back to the beginning of

652
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one offseason and the Patriots are in the

653
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: same cap position. Other teams are in the same cap

654
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: l we would be and they didn't do what they did,

655
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: we'd be screaming at them. Why didn't you take advantage

656
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: of all that opportunity? Yeah, you know, I don't see.

657
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: I think my point is, I'm not sure that what

658
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: they did in twenty twenty one is going to slow

659
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: down this rebuild process. I don't think it is. I

660
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: think I think, you know, they could have been six

661
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: and eleven, and you know, twenty twenty two might have

662
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: looked the same as it will anyway. You know, I'm

663
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: not sure it really slowed us down at all. I

664
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: really don't. I just like to hear from from these

665
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: people on Paul's station of what what what would have

666
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: constituted it? Because I mean, you really kind of went

667
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: out and bought a whole new team for you know,

668
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: the significant players, right, I mean, if you want to

669
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: talk about, hey, they shouldn't have brought a handful of

670
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: veterans back. Sure, but this was such a different team

671
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: than last year, from two years ago. This was a

672
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: whole new offense with a rookie quarterback and four out

673
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: of you know, new weapons, and so I don't know

674
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: I just I guess I disagree with the premise that

675
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: I think. I think they did about as much as

676
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: they could. And you know, it's never gonna be we're

677
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: gonna cut off fifty three guys and start over like

678
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: so and there. And there are CBA rules where you

679
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: have to spend up to a certain portion of the caps,

680
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: so like you can't just hold down to that money,

681
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: you know if you're yeah, I don't. I don't know

682
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: what we were last year, one hundred million over the

683
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: cap or something like that, and the cap was only

684
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: one eighty something. That you can't hold on to that money.

685
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: You have to spend it. Yeah, there's a certain percentage

686
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: you have to spend each year cash wise. Yeah, and

687
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: even if you'll hold back and let's say you only

688
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: spend eighty I think every four years, you have to

689
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: like spend it all or you know, Yeah, there's certain rules.

690
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, Yeah, I don't know about the

691
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: specific numbers. Like it's not like the pages could have

692
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: saved that money for this year, you know. Yeah. Well,

693
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: and I just I think part of this, it's all

694
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: connected to what we said about, you know, why why

695
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Brady ended up leaving was, you know, just the misses

696
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: on the draft, the inability basically to replace Gronk and

697
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: to replace Edelman and to keep that pipeline of players

698
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: and weapons going for him. And I think what we're

699
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: seeing now a little bit behind the curve is the

700
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: same thing on the defensive side of the ball, where

701
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: you know guys like Uch and Winovich that are you know,

702
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: high round draft picks, athletic guys. You know on paper,

703
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: when you're drafting those guys, we're all excited because it

704
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: says this is what they need. They need to get

705
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: more athletic on the second level, they need, you know,

706
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: and regardless of what you need more of or anything

707
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: like that, you just need new guys. These guys are

708
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: coming to the end. You had to fill that pipeline.

709
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's the reality now that's coming home,

710
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: is that defensively, you don't really know what they have

711
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: in the pipeline at the linebacker level. Despite continued attention

712
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: to that those positions, those guys couldn't get on the field.

713
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, does that mean that they're just deadwood

714
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: and third down guys and they're never going to be

715
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: more than that? I don't know, but I hesitate to

716
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: think if you just didn't bring back Van Noyon Collins

717
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: and let high Tower walk and just played Ucha and

718
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: Winovich all year, that somehow you're in a better position now,

719
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: you know. I guess maybe your draft positions higher. But

720
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: I think the results on the field would wouldn't have

721
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: been as good, and I don't think it would have

722
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: been as beneficial for Mac to you know, especially in

723
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: that win streak where the defense was helping him, picking

724
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: him up. And you know, for as bad as it ended,

725
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: I think the defense still did some good things for

726
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: Mac Jones this year in his development and you know,

727
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: keeping him in games or at least giving him the

728
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: opportunity at the end of all these games too. By

729
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: the way, you no compete. Speaking of Mac, did you

730
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: see he posted something on I don't know, I think

731
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: it might have been Instagram whatever about how you know,

732
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: he just basically just giving thanks for what a you know,

733
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: great season he had. Not a great season he had,

734
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: but just like he enjoyed the season. It was a

735
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, the experience of the season, and he's

736
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: looking forward to the offseason and building towards year two.

737
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: So that that's that was just something that I just

738
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: thought was I mean it's not a significant, uh thing,

739
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: and not unexpected in this day and age with people

740
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: post stuff like that, but just it was nice to see, Yes, yeah,

741
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: I put it. I actually put a post up on

742
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: the site with not only that, but you know a

743
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: lot of his teammates were responding to that as well.

744
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: And you know, I think the feeling coming out of

745
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: of this season was at the very least that all

746
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: these guys really have a lot of respect for Mac

747
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: and and really enjoyed playing with him. Hunter Henry talked about,

748
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, you really didn't get much chance to work

749
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: with him. I mean these West Coast camps were you

750
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: know early on that was Sam and you know it's

751
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: it's it's I remember those videos. So it'll be an

752
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to, you know, continue to grow. But

753
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: I think that you know, we can tell there's plenty

754
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: of naysayers out there that will tell you what Matt

755
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: can't do, but I think you do have to be

756
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: aware of the toughness, the poise, the experience he got

757
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, it's just it's no small task

758
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: to come in and play quarterback here and win the

759
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: job and and that, and that deserves a lot of respect.

760
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: He's got some shortcomings, but I think, you know, all

761
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to stuff to overcome. I'm excited to watch him try, though.

762
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: I know he'll put everything he's got into it. I

763
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: know there's you know, a lot of elements to arm strength,

764
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: but confidence is part of it too. You know. I

765
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: think some of the time where we saw balls that

766
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: boy that took a long time to get a lot

767
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: of that was it and see um and I think that,

768
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, year two might help a little bit in

769
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: that department. Now, yeah, he's never gonna be Josh Allen,

770
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: He's never gonna have you know, a whore Witzer. Confidence

771
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: will help u in the speed of the ball, in

772
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: the velocity, I hope. So yeah, anticipation and I mean

773
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I think he's got enough. I think he's got enough,

774
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: But I do you know, I do just feel like

775
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: I never there weren't many times this season where you

776
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: felt like the Patriots offense is rolling and they just

777
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: they're clicking it's all. I mean maybe Cleveland you had

778
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: it for a little while on that Cleveland game, but

779
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, you just you need more of that against

780
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: good teams. You need to be able to at least

781
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: put together a couple drives against good teams where all, right,

782
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: there you go, that's that's what you gotta do. And

783
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: I mean all the good teams that are gonna play

784
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: this weekend, they're all capable of doing that with you know,

785
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: whether it's a I think Dante Scarniki had kind of

786
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: he nailed it. You know, he does need that binkie. Yeah,

787
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: he does need that guy who can get open. Yeah.

788
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: Brady's always had all the great ones, always had, you know,

789
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: all the great ones. Yeah, So if the great ones needed,

790
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: then the competent ones needed too. And maybe Hunter Henry

791
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: is one of those guys, but maybe he needs maybe

792
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: he needs more than that. Yeah, I mean, and I

793
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: think it's I'm not sure if Henry is fast enough,

794
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 1: but you know whatever, but I think it's worth pointing

795
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: out too, uh, you know. And I agree. But I

796
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: also think that Matt you know, raised the level of

797
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: play this year for you know, Jacobe Meyer's career year. Yeah,

798
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: what's his face? Kendrick Bourne, Like, yeah, Kendrick Bourne came

799
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: in career year. You know, it's some real things to

800
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: build off of. So, I mean, we've seen plenty of

801
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: guys come into this offense and not do what Kendrick

802
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: Bourne did this year, so it's reason for optimism. But

803
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: I agree, I think just some kind of electric athleticism

804
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: on the inside of the formation that can be moved around.

805
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: You know that I don't really care about the Nelson

806
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: agaloor X receiver who runs three different routes. I mean,

807
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are obsessed with, you know,

808
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: getting that outside guy, and certainly if you're lucky enough

809
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: to get one of the four or five guys in

810
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: the league at any given time that happened to be

811
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: transcendental players at that position, create but just get him

812
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: a guy that he can get the ball every single game.

813
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, just I mean, we're looking at Jamar Chase

814
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: right now making catch after catch after catch last weekend.

815
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: That that's that's the formula. It's not tough. I mean,

816
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: it's tough to find, but it's it's it's obvious what

817
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: it is. But it's like, you know, you get into

818
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: these games and you're watching them on TV and it's

819
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: like Jamar Chase makes those catches or you know, and

820
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: you say, he's why aren't they just covering this guy

821
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: because you can right, they're that good, right, if he

822
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: was that easy, they'd be doing it now. On the

823
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: on the flip side, you get into the second game

824
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: against the Bills and the no guy, a no name

825
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: like Mackenzie's making path and you're saying, why aren't they covering?

826
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: The Patriots can't because they just they're two. They don't

827
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: have the depth and coverage to do that. You know, yeah,

828
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: I think they're I mean, And and he was even

829
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: productive in the in the third game too, so like

830
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: like who was out there for the Dangelo and Busby

831
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: and I practice squatters? It was? It was awful? Was it? Bet?

832
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: Anymore calls that? Do you want me to go to emails? Yeah?

833
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: We have some calls, but having some technicalities right now

834
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: with that, so why don't we do some emails first? Okay? Well,

835
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: Bobby from squandam rights. In playing the Bills three times

836
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: this season, I definitely gained a new respect for Josh Allen.

837
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: He's got a great arm and can take off with

838
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: the ball at any moment. But I think it's his

839
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: size that makes him so unique. He looks like the

840
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: big cousin in the Thanksgiving backyard football Game He's just

841
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: so unaffected by tacklers, and even when we get a

842
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: good hit on him, he pops right back up. You

843
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: guys talked about how other AFCAST teams had to build

844
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: around beating Brady, and now we've got to build around

845
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: beating Josh. Question is what does that mean? What positions

846
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: and types of players would you focus on if your

847
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: goal was solely to beat this version of the Bill's offense.

848
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I would start with speed, that

849
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: athlet speed and athleticism to keep up with all of

850
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: the weapons that they have. I mean, no different than

851
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: when the Patriots had, you know, the two thousand and

852
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: seven offense, or different varieties of Gronk and Edelman and

853
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: you know James White, guys who could you know they

854
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: could attack you from anywhere. They need more athletic, faster defenders.

855
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: They can't be stuck in this rut of traditional you know,

856
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: big bulky middle linebackers and defeating defensive lineman. They need

857
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: guys who can move from side to side, who can cover. Yeah,

858
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: speed combined with good tackling technique, yea swarm to the ball.

859
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: So so let's just say your cornerback is the guy

860
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: you know, on an island with Josh Allen at least

861
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: he can grab an ankle and by the time he

862
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: does that, two or three other defenders are there to

863
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: help bring them down. It's it's speed, swarm tackling and

864
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, good tackling technique. Yeah, I mean it's I

865
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: do think that the matchups are a big part of

866
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: it in the secondary and having the horses. You know,

867
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: put a guy on Digs and you put a guy

868
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: on Beasley and Sanders or whoever else that they'll resign

869
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: next year. But um, it's it's just tough. I think

870
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: a lot of the a lot of it. You can't

871
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: really game plan because he's just so good. Um, you

872
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: have to just build a good defense. You know, you

873
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: have to build a good defense, uh that can that

874
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: you have depth in the secondary to match up with

875
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: his weapons. Uh, And that you have a disruptive front

876
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: that can you know, get after him and get him uncomfortable.

877
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Right that he was that he was never in any

878
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: jeopardy in this these last couple of games against the Patriots,

879
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: like the Jude On that we saw earlier in the season,

880
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: needs to show up for these games and make life

881
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: difficult for Josh Allen. I mean, he can't just you

882
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: can't just let him sit back there or even just

883
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: dance around a little bit. And by time that touchdown

884
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: to the first touchdown of the second touchdown to Dawson Knox,

885
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: he had ten seconds I think to throw. It was

886
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: like the longest period of time for a touchdown throw

887
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: in the league this year. Like how a drink? I mean,

888
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: you can't let him do that. I'll be really interested

889
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: to see going forward how the Bills do in the playoffs,

890
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Like how do other defenses hope with? Yeah, yeah, well

891
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: this weekend, I mean, this weekend's gonna be give because

892
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: they've already going to Ksey this year and beating them

893
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: by I think it was double digits, right, significant, I mean,

894
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: and that you know interesting, that was when I mean

895
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: we talk about during picks. I don't want to tip

896
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: tip my hand here, um, but a great game. And

897
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, that's they're the team who's representing the

898
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: AFC the last two times. And you know, my thing

899
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen and the emailer was right. I mean,

900
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: I have, you know, so much respect for him. It's

901
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: just continued to grow watching him over the last few years.

902
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: And you know, just my only question is does he

903
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: have three more of the games than him that he

904
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: just played. Maybe he does, and maybe the Bills will

905
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. But I just think that they

906
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: seem like a team that is just so focused on him,

907
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: and it almost kind of is a version of the

908
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry of it all. We've had that conversation before

909
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: where it's like, you build your whole team around d

910
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: Of course you want to build your whole team around

911
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: around the quarterback, but I just wonder what's it gonna

912
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: look like if he doesn't like he's just a little

913
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: off in the playoffs against the best teams, and we

914
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: know that they have flaws, and when you know he

915
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: didn't play great against everybody, that's what's hard for Patriot fans.

916
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: We're just used to seeing this guy be unstoppable all

917
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: the time. Meanwhile, you could go to the Jets and

918
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: they'd be like, man, he's all right, you know, like

919
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: you didn't really play that great against them. So it's, uh,

920
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: we're in a bit of a unique position. But I

921
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: agree with Fred. I'm excited to see how how he

922
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: does and if they're able to continue this street because

923
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: I think if they keep playing like they play obviously,

924
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna stop them. Yeah, I mean they

925
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: were my preseason pick to win the Super Bowl. I

926
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: had Bills over Packers and the pick, so that's still

927
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: in play. But like they they have a huge task

928
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: in Kansas City because I think Kansas City's playing the

929
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: way I expected them to play most of the season, right,

930
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: and they're in Kansas City at the right time. Yeah, Yeah,

931
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: So I think that's gonna be a much better game.

932
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City's gonna chounter punch. Kansas City's gonna have something

933
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: with Kelsey and Hill, and you know, they're gonna be

934
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: able to stretch the field a little bit. And you know,

935
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: even if the Bills get a little bit of a

936
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: lead or go out ahead, I mean, it's it's it's

937
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But I think it's that's that's yeah, that's

938
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: my most anticipated one of them. We gotta wait till

939
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: Sunday night for that one, waiting all day. Yeah, And

940
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: it's you know, weird, Like I never thought I'd say this,

941
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: but like I'm kind of rooting for an AFC East

942
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: rival to win that game, you know what I mean.

943
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: Like usually you know, you don't want, but I hate

944
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: Kansas City so much I'm gonna be rooting for the

945
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: Bills to win that. Yeah, I think I am too.

946
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: It's it's I think once you get past the pasting

947
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: that we took, all the people that seemed to pop

948
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: up in my social media and seem to think that

949
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: I care that that they're trolling me that the Patriots lost. Um,

950
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: the dealing with that stuff a little annoying with the

951
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo fans, But I think the block button is your friends.

952
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I'm afraid to I I it's it's

953
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: all taming, that's it. I don't know, but but I

954
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: I agree. Once you get by all that stuff, it's

955
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: like I got friends in the room for Buffalo. They're

956
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: they're a real good team. How can you not respect

957
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 1: them after what they did to our beloved Patriots team?

958
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: You know out here twice? So I I think I'm

959
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: with you. It's it's hard. Who's this guy from the

960
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: Bills that had the profanity lace thing to have to

961
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: say about the Patriots? Uh? You know the errors over

962
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: and was a whole bunch of other player Yeah, who

963
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: oh you didn't see glad I avoided it. Oh that

964
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: just came out yesterday. Uh yeah, wait, wait Sean Merriman.

965
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't Sean Meryman. Something got mailed me today about

966
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: Sean Merriman, saying I got no, no, this is a

967
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: bill a guy on the team. Now, Oh I did

968
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: not see that. Oh yeah yeah, So that'll be locker

969
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: room material all next year. All right, Hey, Freddy, I

970
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: think we got our phone issues back. So, uh, if

971
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: you want to take a call before we we head out,

972
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: you can do that. Patty is an agawam cousin. Patty,

973
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Guys? Hey Patty? So um, before

974
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: I get to the defense, like I said, I wouldn't say,

975
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I just gotta stay him. I'm gonna miss MICA's return

976
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: from practice today. We're like Mike isn't going to practice.

977
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: No one was there, there's nothing to see. I wish

978
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: I could just go stay it outside for like ten minutes.

979
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: And I did want to submit a song, but I

980
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: mean there's nothing that could It's that. It's just perfect.

981
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: It's a perfect little single, you know, and it's great.

982
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: I can't wait for I can't wait for September for

983
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: the return might be it definitely, it's catchy. It's catchy.

984
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: They did a great job. So you know, you guys

985
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: covered a lot of stuff, um on defense and to me,

986
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: to me personally, UM, I just think we need a

987
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: big turnaround. I mean, mccordy's what thirty five or he's

988
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: going to be thirty five when the next season starts,

989
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: So maybe it's it's time to look at different options

990
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: and move on from those guys. And prior to this season,

991
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: what I said privately to like my group was because

992
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: everybody asked me football questions for some reason, was I

993
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: think what the roster turnover they had prior to this

994
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: season kind of like what they did in two thousand.

995
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: I said, the next few drafts twenty twenty one, twenty

996
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty twenty three is really going to define

997
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: this team. And you know what, they hit on a

998
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: stud with Starmore, and I think, you know they if

999
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: they're able to do that with two or three guys

1000
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: in these next couple drafts, you know, hopefully they'll be

1001
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: in a good position. But as far as like j

1002
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: c U, I listened to Miguel kind of break down

1003
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: what it would take to sign them, and they would

1004
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: have to get real creative, including like cutting some key

1005
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: players like Shack Mason, which I mean that I don't

1006
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: want to see that happen. But if you look at

1007
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: the who's available on the free agent market, it's like

1008
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: a veritable who's who of great cornerbacks like five years ago.

1009
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, you might have to like get one of

1010
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: those veteran guys and then you know, pair them with

1011
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: a rookie. But I mean they would need more speed.

1012
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: You know, they need to get a lot faster on defense,

1013
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: because we saw it like the last four games of

1014
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: the year year. That's why I didn't pick him to

1015
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: win in Buffalo because I that small little window. It's like,

1016
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: how can I pick this team to win a playoff

1017
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: game when you know each team, each good team that

1018
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: they went up against, you kind of knew what you

1019
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: had to do to stop them, and you couldn't. You

1020
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: couldn't even get Buffalo off the field in two games.

1021
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: That's kind of where I'm telling I'll pick the Bills

1022
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: this weekend. I'm picking Tombo of course, Green Bay And

1023
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: who's the other team that's playing since you in Tennessee. Yeah,

1024
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: I'll take Tennessee too. That's all I got, guys, All Right,

1025
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: thanks Patty. Yeah, we're gonna do our picks later on

1026
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: the show. Don't forget that's right. I only got four

1027
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: of them though today for we don't have to hurry

1028
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: as much, yea, Paul. Paul was kind enough to give

1029
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: me the results so I can. I can share those

1030
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: as well when we get to it. But uh, I

1031
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: just a point to make though and circle around a

1032
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: little bit. With the free agency stuff. It's I just again,

1033
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: I love last year with the free agency they got.

1034
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: It was all guys like twenty six twenty seven, just

1035
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: finished their first deal, prime of a career, a lot

1036
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: of good football left. I think if you look at

1037
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: the five year window that you probably have with Mac,

1038
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to go out and you know,

1039
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: and that's why I don't. I don't want to overspend

1040
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: on old free agents who aren't going to be here

1041
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: in three four years like I'd rather, I'd rather turn

1042
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: it over. And it's it's hard because you know, you

1043
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: got jac Jackson, who's what like twenty seven twenty I mean,

1044
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: he's that kind of guy. So if you're gonna pay

1045
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: somebody probably should pay him. It's just a hard, hard

1046
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: balancing act, especially when you think. I mean, I like

1047
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: Jaylen Mills, and I see maybe Jaylen Mills could be

1048
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: the guy that replaces mccordy at Free Safety. Maybe. But

1049
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, really, when you look at it, if after

1050
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: jac Jackson, you don't really have any matchup corners Jonathan

1051
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: Jones as he mentioned, I mean, I think Jonathan Jones,

1052
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: Shack Mason, or the two going into the last years

1053
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: their deal. I think combine, they're like eighteen million in

1054
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Cats base. I mean, it's just, you know, a bunch

1055
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: of money going to those two guys, both valuable guys,

1056
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Speaker 1: Shack Mason getting all pro votes and everything. But they're

1057
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna have to make a decision on them too. I

1058
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: think that they're probably the primary two contracts you look

1059
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: at when they have to adjust some stuff, and I wish,

1060
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: I wish you could at Miguel on it to give

1061
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: us the full rundown. It's because it is. It's tight

1062
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: and they've got it. They're gonna have to do some maneuvering. Okay, Eric,

1063
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: you want to do another call or should I do

1064
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: an email? Um, let's do one more call before we

1065
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: do before we move on. John is in Washington? Is

1066
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: that Washington State? Or the district district. Okay, what's up, hey, guys. UM,

1067
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: I agree with a lot of what's been said. UM,

1068
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: I do think there are are things, particularly on the

1069
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: defensive side. I think we're gonna do a part in part.

1070
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: And part of this is because I've been looking since

1071
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: midseason at the draft prospects, and frankly, linebacker and safety

1072
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: outside of four guys and not necessarily the top four

1073
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: guys on each for each position outside of four guys,

1074
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take them because it looks to me like

1075
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: you're either repeating at linebacker, you're repeating win out or

1076
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: or you're getting Jordan Richards two point out in the

1077
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: safe key. So I think this is the time to

1078
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: get the pinky, get the binky wide receiver. The corner

1079
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: draft is great. I would double dip on corners. This

1080
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: is the year to double tip on corners. That goes

1081
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: well into the sixth seventh round of quality pressman aggressive

1082
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: good uh, you know, diagnosing of route corners in this year,

1083
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: and I think you have to obviously fix the offensive

1084
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: line issues and um, you know, get run stoppers on

1085
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: the defensive line and particularly disciplined to edge directors. You know,

1086
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: to take some of the weight off bar More and

1087
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: Jude On. So I think it's going to be take

1088
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: down the front seven to the stud and I think

1089
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: there's there's going to be a sort of a real

1090
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: ranging of this of the gbs that we're playing the

1091
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: backup corner role into safe so Jail and Mills, Miles, Bryant,

1092
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: Sean Wade. I think they're going to see those guys

1093
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: for in a dun Herman type role or a you know,

1094
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: turning books type role. I think that's the way to

1095
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: go because just there's so few safeties that make me go,

1096
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that that's when we need to get. And

1097
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: I think you could just stick with in house guys

1098
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: on that for at least a year and then wait

1099
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: till twenty twenty three to get the speedy linebackers and

1100
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: the good, the really good safeties. Okay, I like good info. Yeah,

1101
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear about your way ahead of us

1102
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: on our draft preps. Yeah. I dip my toes into

1103
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: into the wide receivers. That's about it so far. But

1104
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: thanks for the college. But I find myself a lot more.

1105
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I always you know me, I'm always excited.

1106
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: But I was like you know, getting into the draft,

1107
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: but after last year, and you know, it's just I

1108
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: think the draft is the way to go. And as

1109
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: much as they did all the free agency stuff last year,

1110
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: it's just again, yeah, when you have an opportunity, got

1111
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: nail it. And this is it's so Yeah, when when

1112
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity like they did last year, as

1113
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: Fred said earlier, um, take advantage of it. You know,

1114
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: you've got the cap space other teams don't. There are

1115
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: players out there you want go get them. Great, love it,

1116
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: but I think year to year you need to try

1117
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: to be as successful as you can in the draft

1118
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: because I think we've seen enough bad drafts in recent

1119
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: years that had those worked out a little bit better,

1120
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: maybe they wouldn't be in such a dire position as Yeah. Yeah, oh,

1121
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: I think you're still suffering from that stretch of what

1122
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: four years or something, Yeah, at least three where you

1123
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: really didn't hit on on guys that are foundational picks. Yeah,

1124
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: especially at a receiver, and you know, the like I

1125
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: said earlier, it's the the guys that the guys at linebacker,

1126
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: which you know, I just you know, you look at

1127
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: the draft, at the depth chart and it's like mcgron, McMillan, Jennings,

1128
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: to Vy, uh, you know, Judean, uche Van, noy Winovich, Perkins.

1129
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean, those are the guys I mean, and only

1130
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: a few of them have played, I mean, annoying jude

1131
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: On and after that it's you know, kind of a mishmash.

1132
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: So that's there's there's a lot, a lot to consider

1133
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: in that group. Ramon and Tampa writes in he says,

1134
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: I've been advocating for this for some time. He's writing

1135
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: about what a rebuild looks like to him. A rebuild

1136
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: for me would have meant strategically building for the future.

1137
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: Playing Stidham and the rookies. We have to develop them,

1138
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: see what they have and get a better draft pick,

1139
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback for the future and better players if

1140
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: you don't believe the ones you have are good, getting

1141
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: a corps on both sides through both drafts and letting

1142
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: the older guys go. But I think the bottleneck is built.

1143
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he drafts well enough. I also feel

1144
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: as good as he is, perhaps he can't relate to

1145
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: what this generation wants. Anyhow, Let's see what happens next year.

1146
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: I hope it's better than the last two. Is he's

1147
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: saying he didn't want them to draft Macana. I think

1148
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: he's same place Stidham. But you got to get that

1149
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: quarterback somehow, I know. I mean they thought, yeah, they

1150
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 1: thought mac was the guy, why not take him? Yeah? Yeah.

1151
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: I just think it's unrealistic to just play all your

1152
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: young players. Record be damned. Whatever happens happens, and then

1153
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: that's going to prove something to you. I don't think

1154
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: that that's their mode of thinking at all. I think

1155
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: they're always trying to build a competitive football team every

1156
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: single season. Uh it's you know, I don't think as

1157
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: much as we get into like what's a rebuild, what's not?

1158
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: I just think they look at it one year at

1159
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: a time. What do we need able to be with

1160
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: They're they're not really looking at it with this grand

1161
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: master plan of and then in four years we'll have this,

1162
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: and then in six years we'll have you know, it's

1163
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: it's a year to year business. And you know, and

1164
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: and as Paul likes to say too, like they've seen

1165
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: all these guys in practice, like they know what they

1166
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: can do, just because we haven't seen Jared'stidham or play

1167
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, significant roles in a game. Like they're not

1168
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: like flying blind about those players. They've seen them every

1169
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: day out of the building. I mean, that's the big

1170
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: argument I had with Paul about, you know, the younger

1171
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: players and all that. And I really think they played

1172
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: the guys who they thought help them win the games,

1173
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, a most. And if luche was showing up

1174
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: in practice that much, I believe he'd be out there. Yeah,

1175
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean too, you know, I you know, but practice

1176
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: is different than game, like you can't replicate. But Mike,

1177
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: if you're setting a culture on your team, it's like, well,

1178
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: this guy's not showing up in practice, but we're going

1179
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: to put him in out over a guy, you know,

1180
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: like Kyle van Noy who's a proven veteran. What does

1181
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: that say to the rest of the team, Like, you know,

1182
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I yeah, I can. I I just

1183
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: I just think you have to do something in practice

1184
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: to earn your role on game day. It's one of

1185
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: the hardest things that we try to figure out here is,

1186
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, why why do guys some guys play? Why

1187
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: does some guys get benched? Why does you know? Why

1188
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: does Stevenson you know, not see the field again after

1189
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: play X or you know what, why why don't these guys,

1190
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, why does Christian Barmore come in and he's

1191
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: able to you know, get it, and you know other

1192
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: guys are just kind of toiling when you're like waiting

1193
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: for them to do something. It's it's hard, it is

1194
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: and and I do think that there's something to be

1195
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: said for as somebody who loves, you know, high school

1196
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: college sports that you know, we've all been there when

1197
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: that random freshman all of a sudden gets thrust in

1198
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: and wow, he really looked pretty good. I think we

1199
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: found a player, you know, I think I just don't

1200
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: think that that's as common in professional sports. By the

1201
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: time you get to that point, you kind of know

1202
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: what guys have, but I mean they need to Hopefully

1203
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: there's a gem and that group of linebackers that I read,

1204
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: and maybe Anthony Jennings come back and you know, he's

1205
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: he's kind of like a younger High Tower. He was

1206
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: a guy that could play inside and outside. Maybe he

1207
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: has something. But I can't help but feel like we're

1208
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: kind of just crossing your fingers and hoping with a

1209
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: lot of those guys, Yeah, Matt and Devin uk so

1210
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: last weekend or until last week and that was very

1211
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: much with the people who were saying that we should

1212
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: resign jac. However, now I swung completely the other way.

1213
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: We have to work out how to win back the division.

1214
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: And if you're paying a corner top money but they

1215
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: can't lock down the good receivers in the league, then

1216
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: it's a hindrance. Jac has unfortunately proven the past couple

1217
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: of seasons that he can't slow down digs, So I

1218
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: don't think he's worth the money in that case, as

1219
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't help us within the division. We have too

1220
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: many holes and not a great deal of money, so

1221
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: I think we'll have to bring in more slightly less

1222
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: talented quarters and try to slow teams down schematically. Yeah,

1223
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's that's kind of where I am.

1224
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: A combination of, you know, both how I feel and

1225
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: how I feel like the team feels, just generally about cornerbacks,

1226
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: how good he is, how much space you have, how

1227
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: much of the chunk you'd have to give directly to him?

1228
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: You know, do you want to make Jasey Jackson the

1229
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: centerpiece of the whole off season? I think they probably

1230
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: need too much. I think even if they franchise them

1231
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: again five years plan, I'm not sure that they're Super

1232
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: Bowl contenders next year if they keep Jase Jackson like

1233
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: they might have been in oh seven when they kept

1234
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: to Sante Samuel using the franchise tag and Lene let

1235
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: him walk. I'm of the mind that I think that

1236
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: the likely scenario is that they're gonna let him walk.

1237
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: But that's probably what I think. Uh yeah, it might,

1238
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: It might be the case. All right, time to take

1239
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: a break, you guys, okay for that? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1240
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,440
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1241
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Speaker 1: And now great moments in history just weird, Like I

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Speaker 1: We're halfway there, Megan. And then the pandemic. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: email address UH Talk at everything, Patriots, how do we

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Speaker 1: get back? I mean, we're back in the playoffs, but

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Speaker 1: they do this office. Right, well, maybe maybe this season

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Speaker 1: This team is old, slow, and lacks talent on both

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, WHOA, that's a lot of years. Well, I

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Speaker 1: a similar year compared to other years. I know in

1470
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: the real world that once an employee gets a huge raise,

1471
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: one is expected to take on additional responsibilities and to

1472
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: perform at a higher level. I don't understand why Paul

1473
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: keeps making excuses for him. Secondly, I understand that the

1474
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: Patriots will give Johonno Smith another year, But what would

1475
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: be the salary cap damage after the twenty two season

1476
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: if they let him go. I would rather use Johonno

1477
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: Smith's money on Jason Jackson, who was an undrafted free

1478
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: agent and became a pro bowler. Finally, are the chances

1479
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: high that the franchise tag will be used on jac

1480
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't know about high. I mean, but yeah, there's

1481
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: a chance and jo he might be one of those

1482
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: guys where like it costs you more to cut him

1483
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: than it does to just let him play out his

1484
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: deal because of the way that the contracts are structure.

1485
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think Paul's point was just that

1486
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: maybe our expectations were too high on Johonna Smith. And

1487
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with the money that they gave him,

1488
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: the length of contract four years, I mean, all those

1489
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: things point to him being a significant part of this offense. Certainly,

1490
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: not a middling blocking tight end who is up and

1491
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: down in blocking. So I do think there's a disconnect there.

1492
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: But I also think that again, when they signed those

1493
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: two tight ends, everybody thought Groan Hernandez the two tight

1494
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: end set. Well, they played more with Jacob Johnson on

1495
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: the field than they did with two tight ends. You know,

1496
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: they played more power football than than two tight ends.

1497
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: So you know, we I think set some false expectations

1498
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: in terms of what the plan was. And I think, granted,

1499
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: you look at the money they gave those guys, it

1500
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: seems to make sense, but I think, you know, John

1501
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: nu Smith, he just he didn't look comfortable at all

1502
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: this year really well with what they asked him to do.

1503
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: I think when you saw him coming in, it was,

1504
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, getting him the ball yards after catch. I don't,

1505
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they signed him to be

1506
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: the blocking tight end. I think it kind of ended

1507
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: up that way a little bit. And I think a

1508
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: good question would be did you want to go two

1509
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: tight end sets? Yeah, but you just couldn't because that's

1510
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: not your best personnel and you'd rather have you know,

1511
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: Born Myers and Agalore's the three receivers on the field,

1512
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: which is what they played probably like fifty sixty percent

1513
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: of the time. And I think it's way too early

1514
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: to give up on him. I mean, you paid him

1515
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: a lot of money. He's had a year now. Now,

1516
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: Josh and the offensive coaches know better what these new

1517
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: guys can do. And I'm including Born are everybody that

1518
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: they added on on offense. Now, let's see what they

1519
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: do this offseason in terms of Okay, we know where

1520
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: your strengths are, John who, here's how we're going to

1521
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: best utilize you. Maybe they do play a little bit

1522
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: more too tight end next year. You know, maybe they couldn't,

1523
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: like you said, maybe they couldn't afford to do it

1524
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: this year because of situations or you know, just where

1525
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: they were in the game. He was late to like

1526
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't really around and OTAs was he was. One day.

1527
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: I remember he came one here. It was springtime. Springtime,

1528
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: he was fine, and it was Hunter Henry who was

1529
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,839
Speaker 1: like limping around. Then in the summer it was the opposite.

1530
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: It was like Smith was load to come back and

1531
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: Henry was making the plays. And but I don't I

1532
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: don't know if I necessarily think that had much to

1533
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: do with it. But he's got a year in he's

1534
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: they've all got a year in the program. Now, let's

1535
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: let's give it a little bit more time before we

1536
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: rushed to start cutting people and people are just way

1537
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: too impatient. It just rubs me the wrong. Yeah, Freddy,

1538
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: want to go back to some calls before we have Yeah,

1539
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the commeras is stacked. Let's go to our

1540
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: buddy Chris with a tia and thanks for hanging through

1541
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: the break, my man. You got it, guys, thanks for

1542
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: having me um. I had a question about the makeup

1543
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: of the defense and about um guys sort of being

1544
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: there too long and guys knowing if the team is

1545
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: good or not. And what I mean by that is

1546
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: and Brady's last year. You know, he had the famous

1547
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: quote before the Texans game on the Sunday night that

1548
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: he was the most miserable eight no quarterback in the league. Yeah,

1549
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 1: and something to that effect. Yeah, And I think, deep

1550
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: down inside obviously he was on his way out. I

1551
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: get that, but you know, he knew that the team

1552
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. And when I look at like the

1553
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: past month and what happened, which is really a mystery,

1554
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: Like after the buy the team just spell off a

1555
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: cliff and how they could go from like a team

1556
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: in the Cleveland game where you know, Jacobe Meyers scores

1557
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: his first touchdown and the whole team is in the

1558
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: end zone congratulating them to ending the season like they did.

1559
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:22,480
Speaker 1: And I wonder if guys like HIGs Hower and mccordy

1560
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: and they've been to enough of these like they know, like,

1561
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, we're not that good, and not that they

1562
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: didn't play hard, but you know that that kind of

1563
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: sort of permeated the locker room. I wanted to get

1564
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts on what you think about that or in

1565
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: my reach, No, I it's funny you say that, because

1566
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: I was the thought did cross my mind earlier in

1567
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: the show when we were talking about it, and I said, yesterday,

1568
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, are there is there an element of the

1569
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: new Patriots waiting around for the old Patriots to suddenly

1570
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: like kick them into championship form. But I think this

1571
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: is a good point of And even if they don't

1572
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: think like we don't have it, like I just think

1573
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 1: part of it is you don't have Tom Brady anymore.

1574
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: And there's a certain thing I think when you knew

1575
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: you had Tom Brady that you know you're going to

1576
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: be in the mix right down to the end. And

1577
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's an element of we really like Mac,

1578
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: you know, we we like this new team, but let's

1579
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: be honest, you know, we're not we're not on the

1580
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: same level as these elite teams that are you know

1581
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: now in the in the divisional round. Perhaps I think

1582
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation as to what what what

1583
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: went wrong, because there's just it went so bad, it

1584
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: went so badly wrong down the stretch that I think

1585
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: it's it's a great I don't know if it's great

1586
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: because I don't know if I get an answer to it. Well,

1587
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: I just I also wondered, a Christian if we were

1588
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: fooled a little bit uh into thinking that this defense

1589
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: was really, you know, as good as they appeared to

1590
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: be during that seven game stretch. You know, I think

1591
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: I think there's an element of that that plays into

1592
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: it too. You know, when you're winning, everything looks so

1593
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: much better, you know, you kind of glance over the

1594
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: flaws or you try to ignore them. And I just wonder,

1595
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: if you know, the Browns were healthy, you know, if

1596
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: the yeah, a little bit of that I think right.

1597
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: All right, all right, thanks for the call. Um, go

1598
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: next to will Willie in Philly. What's up? William? What's up?

1599
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: How are you doing good? It's on your mindset? Okay? Um.

1600
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 1: I wish Paul was there to hear this, mon because

1601
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: I would like for him to hear this. So you

1602
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: got all right? Um, I thought it at y'all. Also

1603
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: to just tell me what you said, all right, just

1604
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: just hear me out, okay. All right? So um, all right,

1605
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: so we're basically some other rebuilding basically, and everybody sew

1606
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: my defense defense, So what if Bill Man? What if

1607
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: Bill just do often when I'm saying that, we all

1608
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: we all agree that Mac needs a wide receiver. But

1609
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: what if Bill goes, you know, goes really hard at it,

1610
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: basically giving him the weapons that he needs. I mean,

1611
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: we all said it, okay, So my theories, my theories.

1612
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: Mike Keiper had a drafted day basically at his one point,

1613
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: no draft was was released. Had jameson William at twenty

1614
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: one pick okay, so we he gets uh he has

1615
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: a torn acl unfortunately, dub bet. But basically, if you're

1616
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: willing to be Patriots fans, which I know we are,

1617
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 1: a little bit unpatient, but I'm patient, but I ain't

1618
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna find with that. But if we're willing to wait,

1619
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: like you said, Eric, it's gonna take three years. You know,

1620
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: we're it's a it's a it's a basically a working

1621
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: progress here. Think. So if y'all willing, if we're willing

1622
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: to wait, you can get your your speed basically your

1623
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 1: dynamic receiver basically you know what I mean. And there's

1624
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: another receiver run get. But unfortunately he has a torn

1625
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: ETL two and I don't know if it's your friends

1626
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna run with that. I don't know feel if we

1627
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: go that way, but they vote from Alabama John Damienson waiting.

1628
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean, so if you want to like get him

1629
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: a path, you know, because they they're coming off a

1630
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: torn acl but they're being ready, then next year's draft

1631
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: go all hard and uh with your defense. Your defense

1632
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: is gonna be a little bit self hard. This year

1633
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: still be like Kansas City. I mean, why can't do

1634
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, how let

1635
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: y'all chop that up with you? All right? Thanks? Wye,

1636
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: No No, and Jill, that was you know, I was

1637
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: listening to what you're saying, and I was thinking, you know,

1638
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: what are the teams that just were so offensive heavy

1639
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: that they could win with a deficient defense. And I

1640
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: think back at the Coats with Peyton Manning or like

1641
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: you said, Mahomes with the early Kansas City team. But

1642
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: the difference is Hayton Manning's a Hall of famer. Mahomes

1643
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: is going to be a Hall of famer. You know,

1644
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Matt Jones is going to be a

1645
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. And you know, like, okay, let's stock

1646
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: up on offense. But is Matcham's that good where he

1647
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: can do what a Manning can did and what Mahomes did,

1648
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: and you know, name maybe the other great offenses, Dan Marino,

1649
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: well they they had a pretty good defense back then.

1650
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: I would say the no names, but it just you know,

1651
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: just put because Jones job MATCHI dates they played together.

1652
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: You know, he don't know Jameson Williams, but he does

1653
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: know John met If you look at it on YouTube,

1654
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: Mac was throwing the ball like crazy. Just look at Yeah,

1655
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna leave it at that. But take yeah, yeah,

1656
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean there's something that like hoping that you can

1657
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: rekindle or recreate the magic that since he had with

1658
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: Burrow and Chase, like they played together. I don't think

1659
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: it needs to be that's specific because there's a lot

1660
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of guys that you know, even

1661
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: the non albums that are supposed thanks for the I

1662
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: just I love that. I love the thought of the Patriots,

1663
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: like the convergence of like they drafted an Alabama guy. Yeah,

1664
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: they drafted over receiver in the first round. They got

1665
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: a weapon. He's got an ACL he's tore his a

1666
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: cl he's probably gonna play this year, right, Like how

1667
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: would pay your vants? Like that? That seems like now

1668
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 1: taking him in the first round, taking him, he's gonna

1669
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: Piper had his mock draft out already and he had

1670
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots taking Williams in the first round at twenty one.

1671
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,560
Speaker 1: Well that's what Williams said. Yeah, yeah, Michi in the

1672
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: second round. Yeah, taking both alb receivers with the twenty seals. Yeah,

1673
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: it was just funny. I mean, it is a two

1674
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: year plan already for twenty twenty three. Oh, there'll be

1675
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: there'll be no good offense this year, but next year

1676
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: and when we're gonna keep Mac and Bubble wraps. We're

1677
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: gonna play Stidham all next year, right, right? Is healthy? Right? No,

1678
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: it's but I like the I like the thought of

1679
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: of you know, trying to trying to get that player. Um.

1680
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just take your pick on the

1681
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: defensive side of it. Like I think I could see

1682
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle, I could see a wide receiver on offense. UM.

1683
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: But you know, defensively you can make an argument really

1684
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 1: for for just about any position. Go ahead, Eric, if

1685
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: you want to take another Okay, I know I was

1686
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: gonna say, if you want to, you know, throw an

1687
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: email in there. We do have some calls, but you know,

1688
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: mix it up a little bit, all right, Patrick and

1689
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: Ottama writes in uh, this season has made a few

1690
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: things abundantly clear. Three things need to change immediately to

1691
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: allow the team to make the next jump. One draft

1692
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: talented players, not bills guys YEP to get away from

1693
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: when the league zigs week zag philosophy, which means bringing

1694
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: in speed and not size. Three more attention to detail

1695
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: from coaches. Too many coaching related penalties the last few years,

1696
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: like too many men on the field. All of this

1697
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: leads directly to Bill Belichick. He performed a herculean task

1698
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: getting the team to this point, But now the warts

1699
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: are quite clear for everyone to see, and I'm not

1700
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: sure we can expect Bill to change at this point.

1701
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: I feel this is what we'll be getting for the

1702
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 1: next few years. It's funny when because this isn't the

1703
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: first time Bill's gotten that type of criticism from people

1704
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: that listened to the show. But for a guy who

1705
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: is so game plan oriented week to week, he's willing

1706
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: to adjust from one week, one game to the next

1707
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: do something completely different, yet his overall approach he seems

1708
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: to be stuck in. Like it doesn't seem seems sort

1709
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 1: of paradoxical that a guy who is so you know,

1710
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: insistent on changing his game plan week to week is

1711
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: less um, is less willing to change his overall philosophy,

1712
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: doesn't it seem kind of Yeah, And that's and that's

1713
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: and I think that, like we talked about a littit

1714
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: during the season, where you know, what point are you

1715
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: kind of neither here nor there? You're so busy trying

1716
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: to be everything that you end up being nothing. You know,

1717
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: Like that I think is maybe kind of what the

1718
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,560
Speaker 1: root of some of that is, where you know, you

1719
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: had a lot of linebackers, but you didn't have a

1720
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: lot of diversity in those kind of linebackers. You don't

1721
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: really have um, you know, like go back to uh

1722
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 1: to uh God, I'm like it on the veteran linebacker

1723
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: named two thousand and one to two thousand and four

1724
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: Roman Fighter. You know, like you had some some versatility

1725
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: in those guys, and I think maybe you had a

1726
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: little bit more with van Noy and Collins in the past.

1727
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: And you know, they've gotten a little bit older than

1728
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 1: they don't quite move like they used to. Um, But

1729
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's they're all kind of the same now,

1730
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: Like I mean, maybe the slight variations, but they're all

1731
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: kind of the same player. And I think those players

1732
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: combine with the safeties or where are all those game

1733
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: plans kind of shift, you know, and you don't really

1734
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: have as much to go to now. But I think

1735
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: that's a really interesting philosophical question about what they're going

1736
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: to do going forward. Go back to the A ticket

1737
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: hot line. Freddie Sure Mark is in Halifax. Hello Mark,

1738
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: Hey guys, how's it going pretty good? Hi? Mark, Good.

1739
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm still sick to my stomach about the game on

1740
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: the weekend. I don't understand the defensive defense. The defense

1741
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: right that. I know, me and you man, we're both there.

1742
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: Can't get over it. You know, they stay Bill. They

1743
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: had that game, that game plan that he had against

1744
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: the Giant. Yeah, where are we putting that on the

1745
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame for the greatest defensive game plan? Well,

1746
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: I think against the Bills, you could put that game

1747
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: plan in the Hall of Fame of trash because I

1748
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: don't understand how he allowed Josh Allen to become like Listen,

1749
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's a great quarterback, don't get me wrong, but

1750
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned it earlier. Might His stats against

1751
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: other teams leading up to the Patriots was okay, And

1752
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: against the Patriots he looks like her createst quarterback of

1753
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: all time. And I think it has a lot to

1754
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: do with Bill's game plan against mobile quarterback. He doesn't

1755
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 1: want these guys to get out of the pockets, so

1756
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: it's all about to contain and he kind of thinks

1757
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: that these guys are going to make a mistake, and

1758
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: a lot of times they do. But Josh Allen, if

1759
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: you just let him sit back there, he has the

1760
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,839
Speaker 1: arm strength, the talent, the awareness, not to make those mistakes,

1761
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: and I think it bit them in the butt twice.

1762
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: And it was one thing to get burnt in week

1763
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: seventeen or week sixteen, but to let it happen again

1764
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and not change anything up and not

1765
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: pressure him and listen. I know our defense isn't as

1766
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: good as we thought it was, but I don't think

1767
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 1: it's that bad that, you know, we can't force them

1768
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: the punt at all. It's one right, get one put.

1769
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 1: It seems to me like, yeah, there's no defense in

1770
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: the NFL that is as bad as what we saw

1771
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: against the Bills. Now, you know, like usually like even

1772
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: the worst defenses in the world force the punt here

1773
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 1: and there. Yeah, you know. Yeah, it was just it's awful.

1774
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: And two games in a row they didn't put my mind.

1775
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: And I mentioned this in an email earlier on. I

1776
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: think it has a lot to do with Matt Patricia

1777
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: being back in the fold. I know that Paul didn't

1778
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: like that, like he is all about this past defensive style.

1779
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: We lost that intensity when block when Flores was very

1780
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, we used to blitz guy. We didn't blitz him.

1781
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't think we blitzed him once at the end

1782
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: of the game. So Burthdas, don't get me wrong, but

1783
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: I think you had to put a little pressure on

1784
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: him to get that ball a little faster, because you know,

1785
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: he was just sitting there playing track with guys. It

1786
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Well, it's fair, and I'm trying to play

1787
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: a little Devil's advocate here. Um, when Flores was here,

1788
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: that was, you know, three years ago. Josh Allen was

1789
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: three years less experienced in the NFL. Like, you're more

1790
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: willing to take a chance to blitzer a guy who's

1791
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: in his first or second year than a guy who

1792
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: was as experienced now as Josh Allen is. So I mean,

1793
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 1: if you're going to criticize that particular game plan against

1794
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, it's kind of tough. Like teams didn't want

1795
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: to blitz Brady that much because they knew he could

1796
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,560
Speaker 1: he could beat them with that. Yeah, you know that

1797
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: you had to have a certain type of of pass

1798
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: rush to get Brady flustered. Typically it was up the middle. Yeah,

1799
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: But I was just watching the guys in the replay,

1800
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: and it sounds it looked like to me that they

1801
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: weren't even like it was almost like they were kind

1802
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: of almost creating like a pocket of him not getting out.

1803
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: Like I was watching guys like there was no effort

1804
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: to get past their blockers, Like a lot of them

1805
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: were just kind of standing up dancing around. Uh you

1806
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: know with mobile quarterbacks in the past us. Yeah, like

1807
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: you look at Cam Newton in the past, he burned us.

1808
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: Um do you look at you know, Deshaun Watson, these

1809
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks. Bill is so scared that they're going to

1810
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: break contain that he does not want to rush the quarterback.

1811
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter because Aaron did it. Anyway, he

1812
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: kept by our guys even when we weren't taught, even

1813
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: when we were trying to contain himself. Yeah, I don't know.

1814
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: It was just frustrating. I just can't believe that the

1815
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: deason ended on such a poor note, especially when Bill

1816
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,799
Speaker 1: was supposed to be this defensive He is a defensive genius,

1817
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: but like that must just grind his gears that. Yeah,

1818
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, it would have been like different, like if

1819
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 1: you've gone down, which is, if you've gone down like

1820
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 1: a typical AFC's divisional tight last possession, they got us,

1821
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: Like you have such a different feeling about this, like,

1822
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I'd be so much more like we're close.

1823
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: But it's just like he said, the underlying current of like, man,

1824
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: we look like we had nothing on defense. Would you

1825
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: have would you have felt better if the defense did

1826
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: what it did, you know, gave up touchdowns on every drive,

1827
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 1: but the offense put up you know, thirty Maybe a

1828
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: little bit maybe a little bit, just because I think

1829
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: that the problem is that you got to figure out

1830
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and it looked like they had absolutely no

1831
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 1: clue to figure out Josh Allen. I will say this.

1832
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: I will say this, if the offense had answered a

1833
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: couple of times, it changes the mindset of the Bills.

1834
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: The Bills on offense could do whatever they wanted. Yeah,

1835
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: they didn't have to worry, they didn't have to worry

1836
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: about keeping up, you know. Um, so that's that's such

1837
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 1: an advantage to play at. Yeah, you know. So I

1838
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: do think that if if the Patriots offense had been

1839
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: able to put up a couple of early scores, you know,

1840
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, show some semblance of life, Yeah, it would

1841
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: have slowed down the Bills offense a little bit. Yeah,

1842
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,799
Speaker 1: if if Michaelhide doesn't make that tremendous play on the interception.

1843
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 1: That's a touchdown too. Exactly. Yeah, I would just say, though,

1844
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think the game plan is is

1845
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 1: low on the list to me because I think they

1846
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: tried everything with him. I think they tried to rush them.

1847
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,759
Speaker 1: I mean, they're never gonna be send six seven guy defense.

1848
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: Maybe b flow was a little bit, but I just don't.

1849
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: I think they're generally a conservative defense anyway, which I've

1850
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: long since accepted. But I would put just the inability

1851
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: to win matchups and the execution. Those are the top things.

1852
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't think really if we had only played this

1853
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,600
Speaker 1: particular scheme or we would have had an answer. I

1854
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 1: just when you don't have guys who can win one

1855
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: on one like they were doing earlier in the year,

1856
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: that makes the difference of everything. I mean, that was

1857
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: really the difference of the defense from the first part

1858
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: of the year, which we have match youoed On and

1859
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore were not able to be handled one on

1860
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: one blocking, and that just set everything else up. You

1861
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 1: don't have the blitz. You can arrange your pass rush

1862
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: so that those guys you get favorable matchups, and but

1863
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: when guys aren't winning one on one. That's just bad defense. No, no,

1864
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 1: no plan is going to overcome guys who don't win

1865
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 1: and don't execute. Yeah, and Mark Mark brought up Matt Patricia,

1866
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, if if Matt Patricia truly has

1867
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: significant input into the defense, then I know for a

1868
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: fact that there's too many voices in the room. Right.

1869
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, because he's more like the

1870
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: general can consultation. I'm sure he's got some input on

1871
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: the defense, but I don't think he's in the play

1872
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 1: callers year in the game maybe, But you're right, if

1873
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: he is, Fred, I think you're right. I think that's

1874
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 1: speaks to kind of the defensive coordinator. It's kind of

1875
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: divided up to DAMEO is porely the de facto just

1876
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: calling the plays. You don't we don't know, like that's

1877
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: what you hear. But and I think, uh, and you

1878
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 1: know Badard mentioned this too in his rite up. Uh,

1879
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: you know that there's just not a clarity of of

1880
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: of communication. And I think that's been a big part

1881
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 1: of you know, why Bill has liked a small, small staff.

1882
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: But I think maybe something's getting lost in translation with

1883
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: all the different you know kind of different. The loss

1884
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: of Ernie Adams underrated and there it is, no I know,

1885
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, I mean, we thought Patricia was

1886
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: going to play that role. I maybe, I mean, maybe

1887
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: he did. I don't know. I don't know what he

1888
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 1: was doing all year. You wonder if some of those

1889
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 1: like in Game four down kind of you know, if

1890
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: Ernie was an aggressive more aggressive Matt is less. I don't.

1891
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Yeah, it's impossible for I mean,

1892
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 1: all we can do is speculate, But yeah, I don't know.

1893
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: I think it's a fact something to consider. Roger Saint Louis,

1894
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 1: I thought, I think the worst part about the game

1895
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 1: was losing to a division rival. If it was the

1896
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: Raiders or Titans or some team like that, it wouldn't

1897
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 1: have stung as much. I also hate agreeing with Paul,

1898
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: but I don't. I also don't know if Mack is

1899
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: the guy, and frankly, my confidence in him is dipped

1900
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 1: every week since Thanksgiving. My way way too early prediction

1901
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: for next year. The offense jails a little bit more,

1902
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 1: starts to rely on the run a little less and less.

1903
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: The defense is hut garbage as it goes through a rebuild,

1904
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: and I would trade multiple picks to move up for

1905
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: one of the Ohio state receivers in the draft. Trading up,

1906
01:33:55,320 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: you're speaking my language. I like receiver. Yeah, that's I

1907
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: don't want to give up on the twenty twenty two

1908
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 1: defense yet. I mean, I know it looked bad, but

1909
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think that they are well coached, and

1910
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: I think even if they're less talent, even less talented

1911
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: next year than they were this year, I think they

1912
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,480
Speaker 1: can play better than they did down the stretch more competitively.

1913
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: I mean, how can you not. I mean a high

1914
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: school team, high school defense could have gone out against

1915
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: the Bills and did with that and not allowed to write.

1916
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: I like his other point though about the offense. I mean,

1917
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: I will feel much better if the offense doesn't have

1918
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: to rely on the running game as much and Mac.

1919
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: That means Mac is throwing more. That means receivers are

1920
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 1: getting more involved, the tight ends maybe are getting more involved.

1921
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: I would love to see that, regardless of what happens

1922
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 1: is on the defensive side. Yeah, then I would feel

1923
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 1: more confident. Doesn't have to be Jamar Chase. I mean,

1924
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: it's just got to be Brady year two with branch

1925
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: and that you know, that player that kind of came

1926
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: in and was able to, you know, instantly, kind of

1927
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: pick things up and make an impact in a couple

1928
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: of different roles as a receiver. All right, you want

1929
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 1: me to go another one? Eric? Or uh, what time

1930
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: is it? When do you want to start picks in?

1931
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: Like about ten minutes? Yeah, i'd say quarter of what

1932
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,560
Speaker 1: about quarter off? Okay? Sure, yeah, yeah, let's take it.

1933
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 1: Let's take another call. Then Ben is in Maryland. What's

1934
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: up Ben? Hey, guys, how's it going? Hey? Ben? Um?

1935
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: I have two questions then I'll take it off the air. Um,

1936
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm wondering how you can judge QB's potential and how

1937
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 1: someone can say Trevor Lewins so Zach Wilson would be

1938
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: much better than Mac in like five years. And my

1939
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 1: second question, um, I know you got a lot of

1940
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 1: special Teams questions over the last week, but they were

1941
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 1: number one in twenty twenty with Can't Make Good. I

1942
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys knew that they were number one,

1943
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 1: and I don't think they got like I think most

1944
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: of the guys stayed like Bailey stayed, Folk stayed Gun. Yeah,

1945
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,560
Speaker 1: pretty much the same crew. Yeah, so I don't know

1946
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 1: what went on. Um, I'll leave it to you guys

1947
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 1: to take it off, all right, thanks Ben. Yeah, I

1948
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,919
Speaker 1: means you you could. I mean you could get specific

1949
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 1: and say, you know, Jacob Johnson blue block, Giovanni Tavia

1950
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 1: blue a block. I mean there's where you know some

1951
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 1: of the specific plays. Um, but I I, you know,

1952
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I agree. Usually I think special teams if they're average

1953
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: and they're not hurting you, it's fine. Um. I did

1954
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 1: dig into the research. I won't I won't really bust

1955
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: it out right now, but thank you too. A couple

1956
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: of people send me some articles about the special team

1957
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: snaps and stuff, and it's it's there's definitely something to

1958
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 1: it that the Patriots have, you know, you at least

1959
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: this season, you know, four guys who were pretty much

1960
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: just special teamers. You go around the league, most teams

1961
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 1: have won one or two and I don't really I

1962
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 1: really know, you know, And that's like, you know, talking

1963
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: for the Patriots guys to play seventy percent of the

1964
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: special team snaps and less than five percent of the

1965
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: off of the defensive snaps. But someone also sent me

1966
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 1: some research that was a little bit lower bar like

1967
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: sixty percent and ten percent um. So I'm sure that

1968
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: would change things slightly. But but the Patriots clearly four guys.

1969
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: And I was talking with Paul a little bit about it,

1970
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's guys like Joshua bledsoell like

1971
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 1: next year, could he do what Cody Davis does? Could

1972
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 1: he get in because if he can, that's experience and

1973
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he's not playing safety yet, but it's a

1974
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: way to develop guys. Whereas you know, guys like Brandon

1975
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: King and Cody Davis and these are you know, the

1976
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: Matthew Slayers. Those are the big four, um, you know,

1977
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 1: and Slater is what he Every team's got and I'll

1978
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: never complain about that. But you know, a guy like

1979
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 1: Brandon King, where he's a linebacker or safety depending how

1980
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,759
Speaker 1: you look at him. But you know, again, could ouja

1981
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 1: play those roles? Could you use these special teams instead

1982
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 1: of investing solely in veterans to just play special teams?

1983
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: Could you allow some of your younger guys to play

1984
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 1: those roles. And maybe they're not plus special teamers, but

1985
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 1: they're getting NFL experience and they're starting to gain some

1986
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: confidence that they can play. And then maybe when it

1987
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: comes down to, oh, you know, guy got COVID, we

1988
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 1: gotta stick you in that they're not getting thrown in

1989
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 1: having just played on the practice squad, you know. So

1990
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 1: it's definitely a conversation. I'll kind of pull together for

1991
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: next week and Paul he's back with with with the

1992
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 1: firm numbers, but I want to throw that in his face.

1993
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 1: Definitely know it. It backs up what he says. It

1994
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: backs up what he says. He's right. I mean that

1995
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: they go above and beyond and they use multiple roster

1996
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: spots on guys that that really only play special teams, which, hey,

1997
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 1: when they're getting touchdowns and blocking punts and things. Things

1998
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 1: were great. They had Later All Pro, they had Bailey

1999
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: All Pro, they had Gunner is an All Pro. It's

2000
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 1: hard to it's hard to improve on three All pros

2001
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 1: on special teams. But it did seem like there was

2002
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 1: there were more physical and mental mistakes made on special

2003
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 1: teams this year than were you used to seeing. It

2004
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: was kind of across the board though, right, yeah, I mean,

2005
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, like just everybody defense and all of it.

2006
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: So I mean I think it's all yeah, it's all connected.

2007
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: His other question was about evaluating quarterbacks, And I mean

2008
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 1: that one of the toughest things to do. I mean,

2009
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: it's it's tough to evaluate any rookie going into the

2010
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 1: NFL and projecting what they can do. But like that's

2011
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 1: a that's been impossible to do for the longest time.

2012
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 1: I mean I think back to you know, bled Zoe Meyer,

2013
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: and then now you look back on it and say,

2014
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 1: how could we possibly have thought that Rick was worthy

2015
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 1: of the number one overall? Ryan Leaf and Peyton Manning.

2016
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's obvious now Who's So it's it's tough

2017
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: even with the guys who were thought to be, um,

2018
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, the cream of the crop first round picks.

2019
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: What what was the draft class when there was like

2020
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 1: Tim Couch, Achille Smith, Like think about that, they were

2021
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 1: like five quarterbacks taken. I think that year. I think

2022
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: maybe one of them, maybe it was McNabb. Was he

2023
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: in that class that like one out of the four

2024
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: in the first round ended up being anything Kaide McNown

2025
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: was another guy like that. Like, just like it's so

2026
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 1: difficult at that position because I think part of it

2027
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: is each team wants something different on offense, you know,

2028
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: like the Patriots when they had Brady like Obviously they

2029
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: already had Blitzoe, but Bill and his offense and Charlie

2030
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: they wanted something different out of the quarterback position. So

2031
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: when you're evaluate evaluating the top talent, you're looking at

2032
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 1: it from a different lens of like, okay, but does

2033
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 1: he have to decision making qualities? A lot of guys

2034
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: are just looking at like JaMarcus Russell types, huge athletic,

2035
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 1: strong arm, can throw sixty yards from his knee, Like

2036
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't work if you're trying to like run an

2037
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 1: offense where you have to be on the same page

2038
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 1: with your receiver and all of these crossing routes like

2039
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: that's it's such a difficult thing to do, especially at

2040
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 1: that position. It's an unfortunate feature of the league that

2041
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks go to the worst teams. And you know,

2042
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 1: you named off some examples. A lot of times it's

2043
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 1: the same teams over and over and over and over again.

2044
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 1: The cow many first round picks the Jets have had

2045
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: at quarterback. You get a guy like Joe burrowh who

2046
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 1: kind of breaks the mold. Even get a guy like

2047
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to some extent it who breaks the mold,

2048
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: at least initially in Cleveland. But you know, they get

2049
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 1: stuck in these badly coached teams. And I mean, poor

2050
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, he didn't even make it a year with

2051
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: his guy. Systems are gonna change, Guys are gonna you

2052
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 1: know how many guys have the good fortune to end

2053
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 1: up in a stable coaching staff with an offense that

2054
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing and knows what they want. Guy

2055
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 1: right there were looking at Brady on the screen like

2056
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: he was so lucky to have the same coach, the

2057
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: same system for twenty years. Just became like he would

2058
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: never have been that good if he had been like

2059
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 1: on like Jacksonville and had to endure like three coaching

2060
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 1: changes in like four years, like offensive cordinators, the turmoil,

2061
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: all the press that comes with with all the losses

2062
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 1: and everything, and it's just it's snowballs, and it's it's unfortunate.

2063
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: It's bad for the league. But I mean, I think

2064
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,560
Speaker 1: Mac is a good example of what happens when a

2065
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 1: good quarterback ends up on a on a on a

2066
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: good team that has good coaching in place. Yeah, well

2067
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: you want to do another email or yeah no, no,

2068
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 1: I think we can we can clear clear it out

2069
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 1: with an email and then Cody's in Indiana. He said,

2070
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,640
Speaker 1: you guys talked on Tuesday about how you didn't like

2071
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 1: Gunner as a returner. I may be misremembering, but didn't

2072
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger come out of college as a good returner?

2073
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 1: Why can't we use him instead of Gunner? Yep? Yep.

2074
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 1: Tucker did has some big plays, but remember he was

2075
01:41:55,640 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 1: doing it against inferior competition two, you know, in division two, right, uh,

2076
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, and one of the big differences between the

2077
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: divisions in college is speed and size, and you know,

2078
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: so he was like the big kid in the playground

2079
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 1: in division two. Talking about Dugger D Yeah, I mean,

2080
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: so was Gunner. Gunner was a D two guy as well. Yeah,

2081
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean but MIDI state, Yeah, yeah, that's a good movement. Yeah,

2082
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I saw Miguel wrote that, you know,

2083
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:32,640
Speaker 1: he thought they might not even tender Gunner, and I

2084
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 1: think that that's probably probably going to be the case.

2085
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 1: And it's it's two million, Yeah, he's an R. Yeah,

2086
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 1: it's a lot a lot to pay for, you know,

2087
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 1: for really, so it's first or a second round tender,

2088
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: first or second or original or original which he was undrafted,

2089
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: which basically just would make him a free agent. Right,

2090
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 1: he's not going to take that, Yeah, well he might

2091
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 1: because they might not have anything else to take, because

2092
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to pay him two million

2093
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: for what he does? No, I don't two million. It's

2094
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:58,759
Speaker 1: not going to be what they need. A fif's inn original.

2095
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 1: But then if free as he can probably make somewhere

2096
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 1: in between, you know, maybe yeah, either way, it might be,

2097
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: might might lock him into too much money. You could

2098
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: catch the ball. I know if he if he could

2099
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: only right, if he had any sort of a role

2100
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, it'd be worth keeping him around.

2101
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 1: But he doesn't. Maybe some kind of off season program

2102
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: they can get him on that. He's open for two

2103
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: off seasons now, machine, I know, I know, but it

2104
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: just seems like a guy who can't get open can't

2105
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 1: get Yeah. Well, well, all right, so I guess it's

2106
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: that time of the week. All right. Oh, it's like

2107
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 1: it's I get to play the part of Paul Pirello

2108
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: here today. I can't hear the music. That's okay, it's playing,

2109
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 1: don't worry, and it's one. I'll let you know when

2110
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: it's things out, all right, I'm gonna try to find

2111
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: a Paul cadence to do this with. So, yeah, last

2112
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: week we all had a pretty good week, some of

2113
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: us more than others. We've got in first place, a

2114
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: three way tie, Fred, Paul and Mike five and one,

2115
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 1: Eric four and two. Yeah, is that correct? The issues

2116
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: with that? I actually didn't check my things last week. Yeah,

2117
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,839
Speaker 1: Cardinals lost, Cowboys lost. So yeah, those are my two losses.

2118
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 1: With the spread a little bit different. We've got Paul

2119
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: a top with five and one, Fred second, four and two,

2120
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 1: Mike third with three and three, and Eric two and

2121
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 1: four after his exhausted my luck during the regular season,

2122
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 1: so you guys can have the postseason what went wrong?

2123
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: So those are the those are last week and we're

2124
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 1: now onto the divisional round. Yea. By the way, Blendie

2125
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 1: who actually keeps the right score, Yeah, confirmed that. In

2126
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: the regular season. Of course Eric did win, but I

2127
01:44:51,680 --> 01:45:00,759
Speaker 1: beat Paul by a game. Oh controversy somewhere Paul shaking

2128
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 1: his fists away the sight of that. All right? Um,

2129
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:16,520
Speaker 1: so we start with Saturday at four thirty. The Bengals

2130
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 1: are going to the Titans, that is Tennessee by three

2131
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: and a half. Wait a minute, where's Tennessee by three

2132
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 1: a half. It's only four games. I know I do

2133
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: need a sheet. I'm gonna read. I'm gonna read Paul

2134
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 1: He's picks first, just to put him in a little

2135
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 1: bit of a disadvantage. Paul goes with Cincinnati both ways. Um, great,

2136
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: great matchup, interesting matchup, kind of the old school ground

2137
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 1: and pound physical Titans. Derrick Henry supposedly back. Is he ready?

2138
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: Is gonna be ready? He's gonna be it sounds active

2139
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: for this. Get a big smile on his face when

2140
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: they asked him. So it seems like he's gonna He's

2141
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 1: gonna give her a King Henry. But that is the question.

2142
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: How ready to see? How healthy are the Titans overall?

2143
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 1: Or are they ready to just kick it in and

2144
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 1: look like a number one seed? After the after was

2145
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 1: the number? I'm sorry. Three and a half Titans. Titans

2146
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 1: by three and a half. And then Cincinnati of course,

2147
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow. They look pretty good last week

2148
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: hanging on against the Raiders. I'm tough on this one.

2149
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 1: I really do like Tennessee. You gotta like what Cincinnati

2150
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 1: has on offense, though, I'm gonna go Tennessee both ways. Okay,

2151
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna split the difference. I'm just gonna give the

2152
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 1: Titans the the home benefit of the doubt and the

2153
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: more experienced benefit because they've been in this position before,

2154
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 1: They've been to an AFC championship under Vrabel. I am

2155
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 1: going to take them to win, but I'm going to

2156
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: take the hook hoof and say it's a close one.

2157
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals do make it a game. This

2158
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 1: could be a sneaky one of the best games of

2159
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 1: the weekend, maybe the best game of the weekend. Uh yeah,

2160
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 1: I will. Even though Henry looks like he's coming back,

2161
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: I don't think that makes much of a difference. Besides

2162
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 1: the fact that it's just first game back from just

2163
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:06,560
Speaker 1: spill my water back, the first game back from the

2164
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: long layover. The Titans running game was pretty good without him.

2165
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, was here in Foxborough. Yeah, they built up

2166
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 1: a culture running, so I'm not sure that his return

2167
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 1: is that big a difference. However, I just hate the

2168
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 1: Bengals so much. I'm picking the Titans hate Wick, but

2169
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 1: not Cover. Yeah, it's a hate pick. So I'm gonna

2170
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 1: go with the Titans to win, but not Cover. Right,

2171
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: police stands alone there on the pick picking Cincinnati. That's

2172
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 1: a brave pick. I mean I almost thought I'm about

2173
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: doing that myself. It's to two different, two very different styles. Yeah,

2174
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 1: and are the Bengals ready for that? You know? They

2175
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 1: they just got through an emotional win at home, their

2176
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 1: first playoff win. And but this thirty years Titan team

2177
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: kind of like the twenty fifteen Patriots, where a bunch

2178
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 1: of injuries and then you're like, can it all come

2179
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 1: back together in the last suddenly? And you know, you know,

2180
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 1: forget about the inadvertent whistle diversity in the Bengals game.

2181
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: But didn't it seem like the Bengals did make a

2182
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes in that game? Yeah? Yeah, they weren't.

2183
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't It wasn't the best played game. No,

2184
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't, you know it. But I just wonder if,

2185
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: like the Bengals are kind of like the Titans were

2186
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen, where they got through that first

2187
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 1: game here in Foxboro and then they they you know,

2188
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 1: they snowball. Yeah they did it the next week. Yeah,

2189
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 1: they found their way. I don't know, but that's why

2190
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 1: I'm giving them a little bit of a chance in

2191
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:35,719
Speaker 1: this game. All right, Next up is Saturday Night, eight fifteen,

2192
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers traveled to Lambo Field Packers buy

2193
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 1: five and a half and Paul takes Green Bay to win,

2194
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 1: but he's got San Francisco with those five and a

2195
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: half points. Uh So, Jimmy G travels to aa Ron

2196
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 1: Rogers up there. Um, I think green Bay again, I

2197
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 1: don't know how exactly good they are, but I think

2198
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 1: they're good enough to to beat San Francisco, who I

2199
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 1: do have a lot of respect for what they're doing

2200
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,880
Speaker 1: with debo and how the offense is going. I'm gonna

2201
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same as Paul did, though I'm

2202
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 1: gonna take Green Bay to win. I think it's a

2203
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 1: close one that I'll take San Francisco with the points. Yeah.

2204
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: The playoffs to me are kind of like the first

2205
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 1: couple of weeks of the regular season, where you kind

2206
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: of get blinded by something you see in the first game,

2207
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 1: and then in the second week you pick something. That's

2208
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:24,600
Speaker 1: why it's so tough picking in the second week of

2209
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 1: the season. The playoffs are kind of like that too,

2210
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: where like in the first week wildcard round, you sometimes get, um,

2211
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 1: you know, these performances that make you think oh when

2212
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 1: like when Indie didn't punt and then they came to

2213
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 1: know England right like that was like they haven't punted,

2214
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 1: they scored three points, like just random weird stuff like that.

2215
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: And I think the Niners are going up against a

2216
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 1: Dallas team that I think it's in their head now

2217
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: with the with the playoffs and how they haven't been

2218
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 1: able to do it in so long. And in Lambeaux,

2219
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 1: the temperature, the weather is going to be a factor there.

2220
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 1: Packers used to that, Jimmy, I love you mean it,

2221
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 1: but go pack go both ways? Got it? Uh? Aaron

2222
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 1: Rodgers is oh and three career against San Francisco in

2223
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: the postseason. That's a good stat that's a good stat However,

2224
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 1: I think you know, remember in was it oh oh eight, Well,

2225
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: I forget what year was the Patriots run him oh seven?

2226
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: The Patriots on a mission. They were just gonna you know,

2227
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,560
Speaker 1: they were pissed off flake Gate the whole thing, and

2228
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 1: Brady was pissed off. And then after I mean into

2229
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 1: flake Gate, Brady was pissed off and came back and

2230
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. I think Aaron Rodgers has a

2231
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: similar chip on his shoulder, right, think about COVID. Yeah,

2232
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 1: about COVID and everything else and the team itself. I

2233
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 1: think he just wants to show everybody that, you know, now,

2234
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 1: can he do it? I don't know, but I don't

2235
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 1: think he. I think they win and I think they cover.

2236
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 1: Plus he was mad about not getting the Jeopardy gig,

2237
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: so yeah, everything and the world's against him. So I

2238
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 1: think I think that he's got something in his head

2239
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: to approve, and I think he does it. But you know,

2240
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 1: it's not just him. We'll see both ways, pack both ways, Okay, Actress,

2241
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 1: I'm rich. Everything depends me. Sunday morning, Sunday afternoon, three o'clock. Um,

2242
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 1: the Rams at the Buccaneers. Tom Brady is fourteen and

2243
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: two in the divisional round. Oh boy, what do we got?

2244
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: What's the line there? Bok Tampa Bay minus three and

2245
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: Paul is going Rams both ways, little voters, guy boy, Maddie,

2246
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 1: Maddie Stafford. I mean it was a I mean, I

2247
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 1: guess it wasn't really a close game against Tampa Bay

2248
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: earlier in the season for the Rams at the Rams. Uh,

2249
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 1: It's just it's too hard for me to pick against

2250
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,640
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and he's got gronk um I think the

2251
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 1: Rams certainly have the talent to kind of get over

2252
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: the hump, but I think it's Tom Brady and I

2253
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 1: can't pick against some subb going Tampa Bay. Both ways,

2254
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to agree with Paul that the Rams win

2255
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 1: this game because it is so hard for a team

2256
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 1: to repeat in this league, and the Rams are on

2257
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 1: a quest to do something the Bucks did last year,

2258
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: which is win the Super Bowl in their own building.

2259
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's necessarily going to happen, but

2260
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: they take a step closer this week by making Brady

2261
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 1: fourteen and three in the Divisional round. Rams win this game.

2262
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: Does Brady retire at the end of it? No, that's

2263
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 1: a big question. Yeah, both ways, Rams well, because they're underdogs,

2264
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah. A lot of people are saying win

2265
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 1: or lose this season, that this Brady might Where is

2266
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: this coming from all of a sudden, you know, fifteen

2267
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 1: I know, I saw the Wickershan thing, and then I

2268
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 1: saw an article today it was like former teammates are

2269
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 1: saying that he concurred they might he might retire, and like,

2270
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 1: who are these former teams? It was like forty A Ninkovic.

2271
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 1: So then I was like, mm yeah, these guys aren't.

2272
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 1: These guys aren't like they're not in the loop with

2273
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 1: with Brady. It's like, well, yeah, sure it makes sense.

2274
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 1: I mean he's forty five. Like, but but here's the thing, Okay,

2275
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 1: you want so Brady, we all believe that he's you know,

2276
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: concerned with his business and you know the fact that

2277
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: he's you know, as at the age is it's good

2278
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 1: for him to show that his TV twelve method works.

2279
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 1: What's what's better for that narrative that he quits after

2280
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 1: this year and says I could have played more, or

2281
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 1: he gets to forty five and then and then it

2282
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: shows that that's it. If he quits now, who knows

2283
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 1: how long he could have played. Yeah, I mean it's

2284
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 1: a good point because it's amazing that he's played as

2285
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 1: long as he has. But I still think if he

2286
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 1: came back and had a year where he started to

2287
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: look his age, that people would do the sea thing

2288
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: to you know, to some extent of that. But he

2289
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: can turn around and be like like, looky, yeah, but

2290
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: did you see him in that last year He's like

2291
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 1: he looked like he was fifty. What is he doing

2292
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 1: it now? Because he truly still loves it or is

2293
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 1: he doing it now just to show everyone how long

2294
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 1: he can play? And if I think it's the ladder,

2295
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 1: I think he might walk away to get away from

2296
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure look at you know, Tampa Bay and he's

2297
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 1: winning and all that, but there's a lot of nonsense

2298
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 1: going on down there. Yeah, I don't know, if like

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01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 1: sick of the sick of the service? Yeah maybe so,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, it's my turn. Yeah, I uh,

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01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: I've gone back and forth in this game, but I'm

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01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 1: with Paul. I think the Rams have played Tampa Bay

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01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 1: pretty tough. Uh, and I think they they're kind of

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01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:31,480
Speaker 1: finding their way too. Wow. You know, they've come on offensively.

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01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 1: I think Stafford, as long as he plays a clean game,

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01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 1: I think they win this, uh, this game. Who would

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01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 1: have thought that the guy who hates Brady if be

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01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: the only one that picks him in this in this one? Well,

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01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 1: maybe I'm maybe I'm using Paul's reverse like hear I

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01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 1: think about that. Yeah, and I love Brady. I'm gonna

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01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 1: be rooting for Brady, but I think the Rams are

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01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 1: gonna win this. You got them both ways, Freddy, Well, yeah,

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01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 1: they were underdogs all right. So now we're gonna skip

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no ah, all right, yeah too soon. Sunday

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Speaker 1: Game of the Weekend, Sunday evening, six thirty, The Bills

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01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs by two and a hay oh very

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01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 1: very very small, very small. Um, so lots to lots

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01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 1: to unpack on this one. I mean, Kansas City feels

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01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: like they're back. I still think that they have some

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01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 1: some wholesome issues, but they're a real good team. Not

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Speaker 1: really challenged last week against Pittsburgh, um Buffalo. I mean,

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Speaker 1: for Patrea fans, it's like who who can anyone beat

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01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 1: the Bill? Like you don't know if anyone can even

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01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 1: slow down Josh Allen. So with that said, I think

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Speaker 1: now is the time for the Bills. I think they

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Speaker 1: knock off Kansas City, put the two time defending AFC

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01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 1: champions to bed. They expose Kansas City's flaws, and I

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01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen keeps the train rolling. It really helps

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01:55:55,680 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 1: them that Buffalo went this year already to head and

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01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 1: won a game there and won a game pretty convincingly.

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01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: Now the Chiefs are playing way way better than they

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01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 1: were back then. Um, but I think this is going

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01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: to be a classic back and forth, back and forth

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01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 1: and whoever has the ball last kind of thing, and

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01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 1: I think the Bills have the ball last, and they

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01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: pull up the upset at Arrowhead yet again in advance.

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01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 1: I got them. I got the Bills, and Paul Paul

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01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 1: was both buff both ways too, Freddie, break the tie.

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01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 1: Is this the AFC championship in that the winner of

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01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 1: this game goes through the Super Bowl? Probably? I mean maybe,

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01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: But I mean Tennessee smacked Buffalo, you know, so I

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01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 1: don't know it's a It's a good question, but I

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01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't think it's I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: lock that that either of those teams. But I guess

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01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: we gotta see. We gotta see Tennessee do it again.

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01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, f both these teams, I have to pick one.

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01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Chiefs at home. Um

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01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 1: to have an answer. The Chiefs have that speed up front,

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01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, that's where they've improved on defense this year.

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01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 1: Is is their speed. And then they've got Matthew in

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01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 1: the back. I think they've got the speed on defense

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01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: to do what's necessary to limit the Bills. So I'm

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01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Chiefs here. Both ways, Yeah, I

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01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 1: think Chris Jones too. I mean, he just a guy

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01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 1: up front thing. Yeah, just destroy the pocket and you know,

2356
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about Chris don't don't don't

2357
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 1: tackle him, just keep him there. Yeah like he didin't

2358
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 1: gonna have to worry about that. He'll go get him right. So, yeah,

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01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an exciting weekend of football. I

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01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 1: think all these games are gonna be pretty good. I

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01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna see blowouts like we did last weekend.

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Speaker 1: I hope not. No, this is gonna be some good football,

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01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 1: So settle in. Yeah. The one that I think could

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01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 1: get out of hand is the Packers in Yeah. Maybe. Yeah.

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01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 1: You know, if the Packets up four teamed up, then

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01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy will fold. You know, I really his

2367
01:57:54,800 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 1: mental I worry about. Well. I mean he stepped up

2368
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 1: last week though on the road, won the game, but

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01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 1: it was precarious at times. Yeah, yeah, I know. I

2370
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 1: think he's at least earned himself a starting job next

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01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 1: year somewhere probably, Oh yeah, plenty things. I get a

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01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 1: quarterback though, somebody, Oh yeah, yeah, all right, wow, listen,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: Everybody enjoy the divisional round this weekend. Like Eric said,

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Speaker 1: great weekend of football and we will see you next Tuesday.

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