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Speaker 1: Season eighteen, episode number fifty five. Welcome to the latest
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Speaker 1: Detroit defense versus Dallas offense. We're gonna start first, though,
Speaker 1: we're talking about Mike McCarty and what he had to
Speaker 1: say in his press conference. It's gonna quick update on Dak.
Speaker 1: Where's how's Dak progressing at this point. Sounds like he's
Speaker 1: doing well. He threw the ball well and I think
Speaker 1: he's come out of it soreness wise good. He keeps
Speaker 1: ramping this thing up, and you know, McCarthy's not going
Speaker 1: to say he's starting, but he's not saying that he's not.
Speaker 1: So I think I think all all signs are indicating
Speaker 1: that he's he's going to be ready to go. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens today, because I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on at practice, but it's like the movie
Speaker 1: The Program again, where they're just hitting people. Everyone's getting
Speaker 1: hurt at practice. So I think that, like the from
Speaker 1: a physical standpoint, this seems to be like the biggest
Speaker 1: one of the week. Yeah, the indications I heard talking
Speaker 1: to people late yesterday was just what Nick was talking about.
Speaker 1: Everything went great. The thing they're really happy about is
Speaker 1: the fact that he's able to take snaps from under
Speaker 1: center and then being able to you know, with the
Speaker 1: ball pounding into the thumb and then being able and
Speaker 1: not that not being a problem at all. They're not
Speaker 1: concerned about the you know, it's a question about the
Speaker 1: core or the back, the legs, all that stuff that
Speaker 1: goes into throwing the ball. I had a guy say, listen,
Speaker 1: we've been working since the week he could start working.
Speaker 1: You know, we've been working on that stuff that shouldn't
Speaker 1: be a problem, you know, but it's something you think about.
Speaker 1: And if the thumb's fine, how's everything else. I mean,
Speaker 1: because we all were in Oxnard that day that you know,
Speaker 1: we were all scrambling and watching him walk off the
Speaker 1: field and not knowing what was wrong with his shoulder
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and it was, oh, no, Dack's
Speaker 1: in the best shape of his life and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and then you get an injury like that. But they've
Speaker 1: been working hard with the thumb that seems to be fine.
Speaker 1: Throwing the ball seems to be fine. I heard the
Speaker 1: word great was the word that was used to me.
Speaker 1: And then all the core stuff has been really, really good.
Speaker 1: Ask this question on the core stuff because that's something
Speaker 1: that kind of fascinates me because there was a period
Speaker 1: there he couldn't throw because of his hand. Right, we're
Speaker 1: the things and I assume there are, but I'm asking
Speaker 1: a question. We're there things that maybe they could be
Speaker 1: doing from a trainer standpoint that could keep that core
Speaker 1: kind That's what they were doing. They were doing workouts
Speaker 1: that do it. Even though you're not throwing actually throwing
Speaker 1: the ball, you're working on those mechanics so that that
Speaker 1: all is not just the ramp up is a lot
Speaker 1: less to get him back RIDI. Yeah, we we've all
Speaker 1: been in the you know, in the in the workout
Speaker 1: facility and seeing the different drills where they take medicine
Speaker 1: balls in turn in hand and then turn in hand
Speaker 1: and then you've got those resistance chords you can pull,
Speaker 1: you know and work with your hips and your lower
Speaker 1: back and stuff. Yeah, it was, you know, it was
Speaker 1: one of those things because I'm like you, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the thumb's fine, but he hadn't thrown a ball, you know,
Speaker 1: in five weeks. And they're like, no, no, no, that
Speaker 1: that part of it will be the easiest. The throwing apart,
Speaker 1: will be the easiest. Said. The core stuff is they've
Speaker 1: been working here with Britt Brown. You know, there's if
Speaker 1: you follow any one of us on social media, you're
Speaker 1: going to see pictures and tweets of Britt you know,
Speaker 1: on the chords and all that stuff. So everybody knows
Speaker 1: how that works. And you know, as soon as as
Speaker 1: soon as he's able, as soon as he was able
Speaker 1: to do something, that's when they started. So they feel
Speaker 1: good about all that. All right, let's catch up on
Speaker 1: a couple of I was gonna say, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of workouts and especially stretches that you can still
Speaker 1: be doing without the need of your thumb. Now where
Speaker 1: he gets tricky is when you started needing to add weight.
Speaker 1: That's different because you do need the help of your
Speaker 1: hands in that aspect. But as far as elasticity and
Speaker 1: just mobility stuff, I mean, they got all kinds of
Speaker 1: different workouts like he he and he has been doing
Speaker 1: without the need of his tongue. All right, let's let's
Speaker 1: catch up on a couple of other injury updates. Daldin Schultz,
Speaker 1: what are we hearing about him? Um, you know, if
Speaker 1: they're going to play tomorrow or today, he could play today,
Speaker 1: So I think me that's a he's a day to
Speaker 1: day but but I think he's he's in. It's trending
Speaker 1: upward for him and to play in this game. And
Speaker 1: you know, McCarthy sounded, you know, confident with him. But
Speaker 1: he also said because I asked him about the tight ends,
Speaker 1: and he said something about the other tight ends making
Speaker 1: sure that hey guy out there too, since you know
Speaker 1: their arrows pointing up. And he said that sounded like
Speaker 1: Dalton would still be somewhat limited even if he's out there,
Speaker 1: They're still going to figure out ways to get all Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's sounds like, to me, there's been a little
Speaker 1: communication issues with the Dalton Schultz thing. And what way
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz needed a brace, Dalton Schultz got a brace.
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz said he didn't need a brace. Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: is playing without a brace. Dalton. You know, there's there
Speaker 1: seems to be some things that they're trying to get
Speaker 1: him comfortable. To children's Yeah, yeah, yeah, he didn't wear
Speaker 1: a brace. Were you know, Yeah, it could be very
Speaker 1: much of a child's book. Uh. General manager owner. General
Speaker 1: manager came on one oh five three the Fan. He
Speaker 1: was surprised last week by the whole thing. Talking to people.
Speaker 1: They're like, listen, it's one of those things. You gotta
Speaker 1: feel comfortable. You gotta be willing to want to go
Speaker 1: out there and and you know, and try things, and
Speaker 1: you know, there's seems to be some some kind of
Speaker 1: some confusion. Maybe confusion is the wrong word, maybe something
Speaker 1: like I want to try this, I don't now, I
Speaker 1: don't want to try this now, I want to try this.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, we gave you the brace, now you
Speaker 1: don't want the brace now yet. So I think it's
Speaker 1: it's all down to being how comfortable he is out
Speaker 1: there playing and you know he, let's be honest too,
Speaker 1: his best rapport is with Dak Prescott. As long as
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's out there, he keeps putting money in his pocket,
Speaker 1: you know, So that I think there's a little bit
Speaker 1: of that that's going on to yeah, and the other thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it sucks for him that this happened and
Speaker 1: that Dak went out and all of that, because he
Speaker 1: has slowly just kind of disappeared of the whole mix.
Speaker 1: And this is his franchise year. He doesn't have a
Speaker 1: contract for next year. Then you got these younger tight
Speaker 1: ends who are honestly doing pretty good, and the coaching
Speaker 1: staff liked them a lot, So it's gonna be I mean,
Speaker 1: not to talk about contracts just yeah, but I find
Speaker 1: the hard time believing that he'll be here again next year. Well,
Speaker 1: when you when you look at if you ranked all
Speaker 1: three of them, Hendershot Ferguson Schultz athletically, I think it's
Speaker 1: Hendershot Ferguson Schultz. I think just from an athletic standpoint,
Speaker 1: from a blocking standpoint, Ferguson, it's I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think Schultz is first there knowing the offense and all
Speaker 1: that rapport with Dak. I'll get give it to Schultz,
Speaker 1: you know, but what those are things you can do,
Speaker 1: those things those guys are gonna you know, continue to
Speaker 1: improve on, so you know, I mean it's I think
Speaker 1: I think she's right. I mean, when when you're talking
Speaker 1: about what where were we headed here? And that's kind
Speaker 1: of why I asked McCarthy. The question is that these
Speaker 1: two guys are coming off their best game. You know,
Speaker 1: Schultz is coming back, great player and all that. You
Speaker 1: don't want to call him a progress stopper, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's good stops progress. Yeah, man, I think it. Ambar
Speaker 1: and Nick are absolutely right about the situation. I'll say this,
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna need Dalton Schultz this season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I you know, give me as many of
Speaker 1: the blocker catcher guys I can get on the field,
Speaker 1: you know, especially if it turns into you got to
Speaker 1: have to run the football. Ferguson by far Scholtz, is
Speaker 1: he gotten better? He has? The thing about was Schultz
Speaker 1: is there was times last year where they put him
Speaker 1: at the point of attack. He couldn't handle that. Then
Speaker 1: they put him on the backside and he couldn't handle
Speaker 1: the backside cut off this year, though in some of
Speaker 1: the preseason stuff, early season stuff, you were seeing him
Speaker 1: doing a better job of sustaining his block. Ferguson's a
Speaker 1: finisher and Hindershot's a holder. Hindershot say, you know, he
Speaker 1: he gets his hands inside, it can hold. But then
Speaker 1: again he gets sloppy in the hand, and then he
Speaker 1: gets the flag. You know they got they got flagged
Speaker 1: on that third and one. Uh you know in the
Speaker 1: game a couple of weeks ago where you know, they
Speaker 1: had they had a shot to to you know, keep
Speaker 1: moving the ball against the commanders and and it just
Speaker 1: you know, he got caught for a holding call. So
Speaker 1: you know, you have to you have to be good
Speaker 1: enough with your hands inside. But Ferguson by far, these
Speaker 1: two young guys, what they've proved even is they drafted
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz in the fourth round. They picked Ferguson in
Speaker 1: the fourth round. You could find tight ends that fit.
Speaker 1: And last year's tied end class was tremendous. I mean,
Speaker 1: Ferguson maybe in another class might have been a third
Speaker 1: round guy, you know instead, But yeah, it's I just
Speaker 1: don't think you're I think you're gonna need Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: just because there is a little bit of that element
Speaker 1: to his game where he knows how to find space
Speaker 1: and the quarterback has confidence in him. I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they gave him the franchise tag.
Speaker 1: They just couldn't get rid of all their guys that
Speaker 1: were catching balls. They couldn't say, Hi, Cooper, you're gone,
Speaker 1: Gallop Waite, We'll see you whenever. You know, they just
Speaker 1: couldn't move on from everybody, and they, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a protecting themselves. I think I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see those two guys next year for
Speaker 1: in the offseason, after you know, offseason workouts. I mean,
Speaker 1: as long as one of them works out a lot,
Speaker 1: then they're both going to because they're joined at the hits.
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's a great point. You may because
Speaker 1: when you watched Ferguson at Wisconsin, you know, he's playing
Speaker 1: games against Penn State and Ohio State and stuff, and
Speaker 1: he looks like a thin, linear kind of built guy,
Speaker 1: and he's running up to Phil he's making plays. Something
Speaker 1: happened to him by the time that we all said
Speaker 1: goodbye and Ota and then got on a plane to
Speaker 1: go to Oxnard. Those six weeks or however long that
Speaker 1: period was, he kept working out and his body got different.
Speaker 1: He's a different looking player than he was when he
Speaker 1: was playing at OTA's and mini camps and what we
Speaker 1: saw with the rookie school stuff. I mean, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy just didn't go home and you know, milk
Speaker 1: cows he you know, he went and did like legitimate workouts.
Speaker 1: Hendershot to me, reminds me of Jarwin, just the way
Speaker 1: that they're tall, they get down the field, takes four
Speaker 1: steps to get twenty five yards down the field. Just
Speaker 1: just an athletic, you know, a body. And I think
Speaker 1: that Hendershot will put on some weight too. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good situation. Both of them made
Speaker 1: plays in the games last week, and you know, but
Speaker 1: Troult's coming back. Like you said, they're gonna need all
Speaker 1: of them. I think there are. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: I think both that all these things can be true.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna need Scholtz this year. I also
Speaker 1: think I agree with you Amber, by the end of
Speaker 1: this season, it is called a young man's game for
Speaker 1: a reason. No, Because, yeah, the evaluation will have to
Speaker 1: be Are we willing to pay the premium right, Dalton
Speaker 1: Schultz when we got two younger guys that we think
Speaker 1: could develop into no question, to be missing, no question.
Speaker 1: Since you've already got Schultz on the books, find out
Speaker 1: way to us and just to use Ambar said this
Speaker 1: earlier about running backs. I don't care. Just use them
Speaker 1: up and then we'll do something else after that. Yes
Speaker 1: he did. She's not right. She's not wrong about he did.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I didn't miss yet. Yeah. Just
Speaker 1: stay hard, Yeah, use him up and use him up,
Speaker 1: and then if they move on to somebody else, they
Speaker 1: move on. You know, all right, real quick? Ceedee lamb.
Speaker 1: What's going on? He was the only player of the
Speaker 1: yesterday that was not full at practice. What are we
Speaker 1: hearing about? I think he's going to be limited today.
Speaker 1: He got hurt and Thursday's rigorous practice last week hip injury,
Speaker 1: and he he's limited. But I think he's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: I think they're just going to keep him out of
Speaker 1: this practice. Now. I did get hurt Thursday and then play,
Speaker 1: so I do think it makes sense when they say
Speaker 1: it's precautionary injury. That's what that's what McCarthy made it
Speaker 1: seemed like his press conference that seems like there's two
Speaker 1: things last week. I don't know, I think he's okay.
Speaker 1: I don't think I mean around here, with the way
Speaker 1: this team has covered me a five alarm fire if
Speaker 1: he doesn't, if he's not playing, you know, it'd be
Speaker 1: I think you can just tell with certain things on
Speaker 1: If I think his feelings were hurt more than his hip, why,
Speaker 1: I just but you know what happened in the game
Speaker 1: the other day, you know, his feelings got hurt a
Speaker 1: little bit about you know, like well, I mean just
Speaker 1: missing something. No, no, just the fact that they got covered.
Speaker 1: They got I mean they really and and to my
Speaker 1: you know, to me, I didn't give I didn't give
Speaker 1: the Eagles enough credit in their secondary for the way
Speaker 1: that they've been playing. I'd talked pretty hefty about them,
Speaker 1: Like you said, that was the strength of that deep
Speaker 1: I thought so. But I also thought they hold. I
Speaker 1: thought they hold and the game wasn't called a holding game,
Speaker 1: but they didn't hold in that. But I just played well.
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop, he maybe would be a good basketball player,
Speaker 1: you know, just got some good link to him. He's
Speaker 1: not a rebounder though he's certainly not blocking out anybody.
Speaker 1: And and there was a lot of player you're talking about,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, I talked just in general. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: there was two or three times in the game where
Speaker 1: he lets somebody kind of go over his back or
Speaker 1: go around him or whatever. And I know, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be an NFL top fight receiver for being big
Speaker 1: and bulky. There's only a few a quand Bouldens in
Speaker 1: the world like that, you know what I mean? Where yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: right right, that guy's the guy in Philadelphia. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a big dude. But I'm just saying, you gotta
Speaker 1: get these guys off of you, you know, and and
Speaker 1: and the ball, you know, fight for the ball a
Speaker 1: little bit. And and I just thought there were times
Speaker 1: where they went through him. To his point is it's
Speaker 1: about extend get it. Yeah, Yeah, it's about extending. And
Speaker 1: when all of a sudden you're not really comfortable extending
Speaker 1: a yeah, he's a little bit of letting get on. Well, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. Yeah, no, tip, but yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the thing about it is so if you're one of
Speaker 1: you know, the bigger guys, when you the guys in
Speaker 1: the you know Michael Irvin, the day big body extend.
Speaker 1: That's what these things are nowadays, is that you know
Speaker 1: these these uh, these wide receivers have also figured out
Speaker 1: how to extend and then keep the ball extended while
Speaker 1: they're going down, so guys can't punch the ball out
Speaker 1: when you're trying to bring it to your body. All right,
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Speaker 1: You have a question for us going into out of
Speaker 1: the well, since we were talking about injuries and I
Speaker 1: know he's not on the injury report. But it just
Speaker 1: popped into my head earlier, and I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: you What are y'all thought on Mica Parsons And maybe
Speaker 1: he's growing like being a like a Zeke Elliott type
Speaker 1: of injury like the one he had last year that
Speaker 1: he just kept playing through it lingering. I mean, he
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of like finding ways as to why
Speaker 1: the past two games. To me personally, he just he
Speaker 1: looks different in the way that he's playing. And I
Speaker 1: can't just come to grips to the thought of like, well,
Speaker 1: it's just how offensives are playing against him and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's just like he doesn't look his normal self. And
Speaker 1: it could be something that it's not to the point
Speaker 1: of okay where he's showing up on the injury report
Speaker 1: and it's something that's evident, but more so I don't know,
Speaker 1: something that's just kind of bothering. Can I throw one thing?
Speaker 1: I personally, I don't know that it's now he's not
Speaker 1: looking like himself. I'll give you one play yesterday. I
Speaker 1: actually went back last night. I was around the house,
Speaker 1: turned on the game. They had the Cowboys Eagle Eagles
Speaker 1: game on, and there was one play I don't even
Speaker 1: remember what point the game. I think it was earlier on,
Speaker 1: but there was a run that came to his side.
Speaker 1: He was on the edge and we talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: basically holding the point of attack at setting the edge.
Speaker 1: Oh my gods, like that. There was nothing going past him,
Speaker 1: and then the runner came toward him. He sheds his block,
Speaker 1: grabs him with one hand, makes the tackle, pulls him
Speaker 1: and makes the tackle and I was like that, Like
Speaker 1: that's who he is now. I don't think he's had
Speaker 1: the benefit in this last game of really being able
Speaker 1: to get after the past or the way he wants to,
Speaker 1: because if Eagles just weren't allowing it to happen. But
Speaker 1: you didn't notice as soon as that tackle went out
Speaker 1: they put him out there and he came. It was
Speaker 1: just one of those situations where you know, he just
Speaker 1: they couldn't they couldn't get him to the quarterback as
Speaker 1: much as they normally would. But I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a different I think he still playing at a high level.
Speaker 1: He's a player of the Week two weeks ago, I
Speaker 1: mean two games ago. He got her and then came
Speaker 1: and played well against the Rams at the end of
Speaker 1: that game. So I really think I give the Eagles
Speaker 1: credit for how they and and and sorry Honnie, is
Speaker 1: that he said that. He came out and said, we're
Speaker 1: gonna watch him. We're gonna know where he is every
Speaker 1: single play. We're gonna basically game plan for him. And
Speaker 1: they did. They they you know, like you said, they
Speaker 1: neutralized him. There's something It's just and he's still making
Speaker 1: like those plays, like there are still plays that he
Speaker 1: plays like freaking hard. But there's just something that I'm
Speaker 1: just getting from what I'm seeing that I don't know.
Speaker 1: Are you Are you saying effort? You don't think his
Speaker 1: effort is always no, no, no, no no no no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying what I'm trying to understand. I no, no,
Speaker 1: It's it's as if again he had he was dealing
Speaker 1: with the growing it was a growing injury. And he's
Speaker 1: healthy and all that, but maybe maybe it's still something
Speaker 1: that's kind of pulling him back a little bit. It
Speaker 1: in a way not enough to keeping out of the game,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, it's still something I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: my eye on even though he's you know this, this
Speaker 1: reminds me of something I think where I was gonna
Speaker 1: say yesterday about Micah and because it sounds like the
Speaker 1: expectations for him are so high, and you know, I
Speaker 1: think when he's really frustrated, like you said yesterday, he's
Speaker 1: not as good think about. I mean, he is a
Speaker 1: still a young person. Yeah, young person, you play, yes,
Speaker 1: And he is expected to be the NFL's Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. And if he doesn't win that, then
Speaker 1: what's going on with him? Second and the second year?
Speaker 1: And he's got to take care of the He's got
Speaker 1: to fix this whole defense, got to carry this defense,
Speaker 1: gott to wear the cape every time he carry the
Speaker 1: team he's got. He feels that pressure and he feels
Speaker 1: like he's got to make every sack and all that.
Speaker 1: And he's still a young guy. I think that's his
Speaker 1: biggest thing is figuring out that you won the game
Speaker 1: against the Giants on Monday night football, the world is
Speaker 1: going to be fine because you didn't get a sack.
Speaker 1: Your other teammates got four or five, You're okay. He's
Speaker 1: got to understand that a little bit more, and that
Speaker 1: comes to maturity. May Yeah, you know, I think he's
Speaker 1: figuring out that what it's like when every opponent throws
Speaker 1: everything they have at him, and it's like, Okay, now
Speaker 1: it turns into dan Quinn. Dan Quinn has discovered what
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons can do. Now dan Quinn needs to figure
Speaker 1: out how to keep opponents from just trying to take
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons out of the game. That's the next trick.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is in Week two last year when Tampa.
Speaker 1: You know, after the Tampa the game, you get practice,
Speaker 1: Tank breaks his foot. We need a pass rusher to
Speaker 1: play the play. The Chargers put Mike in there. Let's
Speaker 1: see what happens. Okay, boom that next you know, there
Speaker 1: you go, there it goes the guy. It turns into
Speaker 1: like okay, all the different things that dan Quinn can
Speaker 1: do to use him is also now the opponents like, well, damn,
Speaker 1: Dan's doing this with him, and he's doing this with
Speaker 1: him and and we I think we saw something that
Speaker 1: that could be problematic for him in the future. But
Speaker 1: enough teams don't do it. It's the RPOs. It's the
Speaker 1: make him have to pick one or the other, either
Speaker 1: attack the quarterback and the and the mesh point guy
Speaker 1: or whoever. But you know, you got to attack one
Speaker 1: of them. And if you gamble and you miss it's
Speaker 1: a big play. So what you have to do me personally,
Speaker 1: I think the next Quinn and I said this yesterday,
Speaker 1: I think the next thing that Dan Quinn does is
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. You just go whoever. You just
Speaker 1: go to the quarterback. You take the quarterbacks every single time,
Speaker 1: every single time, and will on the will on the
Speaker 1: back end, try and pick up if they hand the
Speaker 1: ball off. If we, if we, if we don't play
Speaker 1: the ball carrier and and and do badly, that's on us,
Speaker 1: that's not on you. But I think you just give
Speaker 1: him one assignment, you know, and that that seems to
Speaker 1: be the only thing that could stop him right now,
Speaker 1: is to make him have to hesitate just that split
Speaker 1: second while the ball gets off. I mean, when you
Speaker 1: think about it, that's really his greatest asset is he
Speaker 1: plays really fast. Yeah, plays extremely fast, and you make
Speaker 1: him slow down and think and like now there's some
Speaker 1: end decision. It takes away a superpower. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, Brian. If you can take that away and
Speaker 1: say okay, we're just going to simplify this, this is
Speaker 1: always going to be your guy. Go get that guy,
Speaker 1: and then you keep him playing fast. If we if
Speaker 1: we had, if say DeMarcus Lawrence or DeMarcus where we'res
Speaker 1: in this room right now. We interviewed him well and
Speaker 1: he said, what's the one thing that hurts you as
Speaker 1: a pass rusher? And they will probably say having to start,
Speaker 1: stop and then start again, because that's that's when when
Speaker 1: you play fast, you play quick. It just it's that
Speaker 1: explosive movement. But those pass rushers, when tackles make them
Speaker 1: have to rego restart. The ball is going out, so
Speaker 1: you know, it's that it's that little bit of hesitation
Speaker 1: that causes your problems. All right, let's let's get into
Speaker 1: the Detroit defense versus the Cowboys offense. Brian I looked
Speaker 1: at some of the stats for this defense. Check this out.
Speaker 1: They are thirty first in yards allowed. Yeah, they are
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, and pass defense twenty eighth, and rush defense.
Speaker 1: They're thirtieth in sacks, Yes, they are twenty ninth in
Speaker 1: pressure percentage, yes, thirty second in miss tackles. Is there
Speaker 1: anything that this defense does well? I will say this
Speaker 1: that they I can't be as complimentary about their defense
Speaker 1: as I was their offense yesterday, because but I will
Speaker 1: say this, I think that aiden Hutchinson, their their first
Speaker 1: round pick from this year. The defensive inform Michigan is
Speaker 1: going to be a good player one day. I really do.
Speaker 1: I think he's They moved him around. He's number ninety seven.
Speaker 1: He'll play on the left side, right side. He's he
Speaker 1: is a really good pass rush there only has three sacks,
Speaker 1: you know, and the pressures have, you know, starting to
Speaker 1: come a little bit. But he's the only thing that
Speaker 1: got when it comes to rushing the passer. Malcolm Rodriguez,
Speaker 1: the linebacker is number forty four. He makes a ton
Speaker 1: of plays. If you're a big twelve fan, you'll know
Speaker 1: him from Oklahoma State. Really good player from picking the
Speaker 1: sixth round. One of those guys they drafted late that's
Speaker 1: really really done a nice job for them. Their best
Speaker 1: corner is Jeff Acuta, who is from South Grand Prairie
Speaker 1: over here. He's a local kid. And then Deshaun Elliott,
Speaker 1: the safety is a good player. But other than that,
Speaker 1: they really really struggle to get off blocks. They finished
Speaker 1: these linebackers finished tackles, but it's downfield, you know. They
Speaker 1: don't make a lot of negative plays. And they'll move
Speaker 1: Jeff Acuda around so he'll see him. He'll take whoever
Speaker 1: your best guy is. Aaron Glenn is their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: He knows they're in a little bit of trouble right now,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's trying to play guys down in
Speaker 1: the box, but they just can't get off blocks very well.
Speaker 1: I see the Cowboys running the football in this game.
Speaker 1: I see him having some success. I see them having
Speaker 1: some success in play action. Linebackers are super aggressive and
Speaker 1: stepping up, and the ball then gets behind them as
Speaker 1: they're kind of all muddled up in there. The routes
Speaker 1: and stuff develop behind. But it's gonna be about if
Speaker 1: you can take advantage of this defense, build a lead,
Speaker 1: and then make this offense just become one dimensional with
Speaker 1: Jered Golf throwing the football, because if it's close or tied,
Speaker 1: or the Cowboys kind of mess around with them, it's
Speaker 1: going to turn into them running the football and this,
Speaker 1: you know, them kind of taking the clock, you know,
Speaker 1: and making it a low scoring, ugly kind of a game.
Speaker 1: That's the best chance they have to win this because
Speaker 1: there they can outscore you, but the problem is they
Speaker 1: can't stop you on the other end. Look at this
Speaker 1: that I came across that you guys might have seen
Speaker 1: it too. I mean, the Lions, it's not bad. Their
Speaker 1: defense is the Lions at one in five, right off
Speaker 1: one and four, they've scored one hundred and forty points.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are four and two. They've scored one hundred
Speaker 1: and ten points. And that's six games the Lions have
Speaker 1: only that Lions have had a bye week and they've
Speaker 1: been shut out. Right, Yeah, so in the first four
Speaker 1: games of the season, they scored one hundred and forty points.
Speaker 1: They lost thirty eight thirty five to the Eagles, forty
Speaker 1: eight forty five to Seattle, some thirty eight twenty six
Speaker 1: or something like the Commanders. Yeah, that they beat. They
Speaker 1: lost like twenty eight twenty four to the Vikings, and
Speaker 1: then they beat the Washington So but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that just goes to show how bad the Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: is the scoring, you know, just in comparison, and their
Speaker 1: defense carries them, and how I mean the offense is scoring,
Speaker 1: how good they can be, because that's the interesting thing.
Speaker 1: They haven't scored in two weeks and I gave around
Speaker 1: they had a buy and they got shut out. Not
Speaker 1: scored points since October second, scored thirty more points think
Speaker 1: about in your life. There's a lot that happens since
Speaker 1: the last time they were in the end zone, like well,
Speaker 1: yeah Rob was here. Yeah that's last change. That's just
Speaker 1: to give me another month and I'll tell you some more. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing about the thing about with this the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: they just can't let us be a close game. Yea,
Speaker 1: they just can't let this be. You can't let Detroit
Speaker 1: hang around and have confidence. Now they'll find a way
Speaker 1: to lose in the end, but they're gonna make it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make it tough on you. And you know
Speaker 1: if because I could say, Derek brought this up and
Speaker 1: it's absolutely true. They can run the football. That is
Speaker 1: one thing that they are really good at. They are
Speaker 1: going to line up and they're going to run the
Speaker 1: football because they know their quarterback can make mistakes. But
Speaker 1: they've also got to think about protecting their defense. And
Speaker 1: they've tried, they've tried with the scoring and stuff, and
Speaker 1: that you know, it's not enough. That's that's that's the
Speaker 1: that's the issue with this team is they've got several
Speaker 1: good players that I mentioned, but not enough good players.
Speaker 1: I think that I mean, not the ideal game for
Speaker 1: our defense, the Cowboys defense. But I think that everything
Speaker 1: that you said about their defense, the Lins defense, just
Speaker 1: makes me think that the Cowboys are gonna go in
Speaker 1: there and score like at least thirty five points at
Speaker 1: the very least or whatever. But of death, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is any worried about a little Dak rushed, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: And the last time we saw him it wasn't very
Speaker 1: good and he was completely healthy. I'm less concerned about
Speaker 1: that part as I am just fact he hasn't played
Speaker 1: in a while, and I just Dak is when we've
Speaker 1: seen him in those kind of situations, he usually isn't
Speaker 1: at his best. He's going too and as he comes
Speaker 1: back he gets better. At over weeks he's going too
Speaker 1: coming back from injury. There's only two games, and he
Speaker 1: played really well against Tampa, so that's I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's even county, but it does. And then of
Speaker 1: course the Denver game, he wasn't. If they lose this
Speaker 1: game and Dad gives you something similar let's say to
Speaker 1: what Cooper Rush was giving you, which I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be enough for this specific game. They're gonna
Speaker 1: need to be scoring more points than than what they
Speaker 1: were how do you like if if Cooper Rush wouldn't
Speaker 1: have thrown three interceptions last week, I'd be dancing with
Speaker 1: you right now about what you're thinking about. But the
Speaker 1: fact because Dad can throw interceptions too, you know, and
Speaker 1: and Cooper Rush can throw interceptions. We saw that last week.
Speaker 1: So to me, I don't think there's any discussion right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't even think he goes into this game
Speaker 1: just kind of being more careful of things, or do
Speaker 1: they just let him. I think you gotta let him.
Speaker 1: I think you let him play. I think you let
Speaker 1: him play in this game. But I think letting him
Speaker 1: play is uh, you know, see the offensive line. If
Speaker 1: the lines are gonna let you run the football by
Speaker 1: all means, run the football. Yeah, I don't mind this
Speaker 1: game being over in two hours and twenty minutes if
Speaker 1: you ask me. You know, if both teams want to
Speaker 1: just run the ball, fine, go ahead. But you know
Speaker 1: the thing, Yeah, see, that's that's the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're in a situation like you know,
Speaker 1: I want to what I want to see from Dak
Speaker 1: is I want to see the third down offense get better.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see because I don't trust
Speaker 1: the third down offense with Cooper Rush. I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can win games you have you
Speaker 1: have because your defense. But when he turned over the ball,
Speaker 1: I mean I was talking to people in the organization
Speaker 1: like are you happy to have Dakibaut? Yeah? Happy because
Speaker 1: we turned the ball over three times the other day.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm like, well, you're four and one and
Speaker 1: go yeah, but we had a chance. We had a
Speaker 1: chance net game if you don't have the turnovers, you know,
Speaker 1: and Cooper Rush has been flirting with those interceptions. I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, yeah, like throwing there are three scores were
Speaker 1: less than eighty yards. Yeah, I think all three scores
Speaker 1: it was less than eighty yards of offense for the
Speaker 1: Eagles net game one almost seventy five, So was right there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, So I mean that's it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a situa of the turnovers. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the turnovers. Yeah, so that you know that. I'm I
Speaker 1: don't I think that I think Cooper Rush could. I
Speaker 1: think we've seen the absolute best of Cooper Rush this year.
Speaker 1: I do personally, you know, and so I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see what happened because you know you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to win. There's games of these teams you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to finish off. The Vikings, the Packers, the Giants,
Speaker 1: the Eagles. You're gonna have to finish off some of
Speaker 1: these teams in the NFC. I think you're gonna need
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to do that. But to be fair, I mean,
Speaker 1: and it's one game, and we've seen the worst of
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott this year. I think he's going to be better.
Speaker 1: I just do. I think there was a lot of
Speaker 1: funky things happening in Tampa Bay game. I think he
Speaker 1: will be better, even even from our even a rusty
Speaker 1: Dak will be better than what we saw in that
Speaker 1: week one game. Yeah, and I'm gonna change my tune.
Speaker 1: I actually don't think that we're gonna see it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be taught. I don't think we will be talking
Speaker 1: about rust for Dak come Monday. I think this is
Speaker 1: the perfect matchup for him to get back in and
Speaker 1: whatever Rusty might have had will be cleared up by
Speaker 1: the fact that his defense is just so poor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so it won't be apparent that the rust is there.
Speaker 1: He'll know the rust is there. Maybe some of his
Speaker 1: teammates will see the rust there. I don't think it'll
Speaker 1: be apparent. But this defense is just not good. What's
Speaker 1: crazy if you think about it, He's only played, okay,
Speaker 1: one game, because you take out preseasonally there was none.
Speaker 1: So it's just crazy to think we're going into what
Speaker 1: is a week seek six now and week seven. We're
Speaker 1: going into week seven? Yea week seven? Yeah dah, yeah,
Speaker 1: get ready, you're about to be working on a Thursday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so week seven and he's only actually this whole season,
Speaker 1: I played one. I'll say this though, a g if
Speaker 1: if they lose this game and it's because of Dak,
Speaker 1: I'll come in and apologize to you about your Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush thoughts. I will because well, no, that should there
Speaker 1: be a question. There should not be a question. No, no,
Speaker 1: no questions about Dak. I don't think there'll be questions
Speaker 1: of going back to Cooper Rush. Yeah. I do think
Speaker 1: if they don't play well or if they lose, everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna be looking at Dak like I don't care whether
Speaker 1: what the story of the game, even if it was
Speaker 1: a defense just played horribly, I think everybody's still gonna
Speaker 1: be looking at Dak like say, man, like you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be. I think Dad can definitely do what Cooper
Speaker 1: Russia was gaming. I hope, I hope more. I really.
Speaker 1: Do you know the team that Dak has the highest
Speaker 1: quarterback rating against? If I had to guess, I would
Speaker 1: say one of the NFC East teams he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: It's probably the Lions. It's the Ravens, but they've only
Speaker 1: played him once. But the teams that he's played multiple
Speaker 1: times the Lions, and he has torched them. I mean
Speaker 1: his quarterback rating is one forty eight, one twenty six,
Speaker 1: and one eighteen like or something like that in every
Speaker 1: three in all three games. I mean, we'll just play
Speaker 1: in the season where those games you remember. You probably
Speaker 1: do remember one of them was like Christmas and you
Speaker 1: know in twenty sixteen. The other ones probably I don't.
Speaker 1: It was one of them, like a Monday Night that
Speaker 1: was the twenty twenty sixteen games. Yeah, where they they
Speaker 1: were were Stafford was awful in that game too. Ones
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember exactly. We the middle of
Speaker 1: the year, but I mean they won't remember it wasn't
Speaker 1: they wanted Detroit where he beat a backup quarterback up there.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that they kicked a field goal to
Speaker 1: win the game, was there? Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 1: It was that I want to say. I would say
Speaker 1: I was in the studio me I was yelling at
Speaker 1: Nate Newton about trying to get the field goal done.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that one, beating beating Detroit with Dak.
Speaker 1: I mean they kicked from Florida, the quarterback from Florida.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. They dominated
Speaker 1: that game but only won by like eight. You're exactly right.
Speaker 1: That's when the Alabama running back started for them, the one, no,
Speaker 1: the one that looks, you know, look like Tarzan. Remember
Speaker 1: that Bo Scarborough? Scarbo he started the game. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: I mean but anyways played he played well, um in
Speaker 1: that game. And they, yeah, they won by like eight, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty six, twenty eight something like that. You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: They they they just they won the game. It was
Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen. I don't remember the other we are,
Speaker 1: but that plays well against Alliance, is my point. Let's
Speaker 1: take our final break, come back, and I actually want
Speaker 1: to talk a little about the offensive line. We'll do
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Let's talk about the offensive line. I
Speaker 1: was looking at this offensive line and thinking about the
Speaker 1: fact that this time last year, there were probably all
Speaker 1: sorts of names we were thrown around, like, man, I
Speaker 1: just don't know. I mean, you talk about steel, you
Speaker 1: talk about be oddish mcgoverning, Like there were all these
Speaker 1: different players that we really just didn't think. We didn't
Speaker 1: know whether they would actually be legit starting NFL offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: And now I look at them and I think I
Speaker 1: have a different opinion of all three of those names.
Speaker 1: I just gave you that. Being said, if there is
Speaker 1: a weaklink on this offensive line at this point, where
Speaker 1: is it. Well, I threw dirt on the right tackle
Speaker 1: a lot, Yeah you did. I did, And you're like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: the right tackles played well him up. I thought he
Speaker 1: was the uh. I thought he was the liability that
Speaker 1: you worried about. Um No, I'm good for you. I
Speaker 1: you know what good for you he has not he
Speaker 1: is not. And I thought with Cooper Rush too, there
Speaker 1: would be some issues because Cooper Rush doesn't move very well.
Speaker 1: And the one thing is teams are not just overpowering
Speaker 1: this guy at the point of attack. He's playing well
Speaker 1: in the run game, and so give him a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. I learned my lesson on that one. Uh,
Speaker 1: the left I said earlier about that with Jason Peters.
Speaker 1: I think that McGovern's playing better at left guard, you know,
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with that. Tyler Smith. You know, if
Speaker 1: Grade sixty five plays, there might be three for them
Speaker 1: that are really bad. But other players are all pluses,
Speaker 1: you know. So, um, I haven't you know, I was
Speaker 1: worried about, you know, Jordan Davis last week against the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, with how big he is and be Odish, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Beotish and me he didn't. He was no worse for
Speaker 1: wearing that football game. So yeah, I mean, this offensive line,
Speaker 1: that's the that's the thing I think that's going to
Speaker 1: benefit Dak Prescott the most is there might have been
Speaker 1: a lot of questions after the Tampa game. I think
Speaker 1: we've answered a lot of the questions. You know, some
Speaker 1: of us have been real wrong about this offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I'm you know, I'm looking forward to seeing
Speaker 1: them and and uh and and how they operate with
Speaker 1: Dak and their ability to run the football. Yeah, Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith's probably the weakest link of that offensive that's your
Speaker 1: weak linking. Pretty good about it, right, I mean he
Speaker 1: used to be Kyle Coozar, you know, I mean he
Speaker 1: was pretty good. He was good. So that happens. And
Speaker 1: you pick a guy because you asked the question, not
Speaker 1: because he's weak, it's just because maybe he's and he's
Speaker 1: he's young, and he didn't get any training camp at
Speaker 1: that position or offseason at that position. He's doing really well,
Speaker 1: um for for what you expect. So, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know there's if you follow the Pro Football Focus people
Speaker 1: and all that, and I mean I just don't dive
Speaker 1: into all that, but if you do follow that, they're
Speaker 1: saying Zach Martin's having a down year, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: if they and and I can't, I mean I've watched
Speaker 1: a lot. I watched every game, you know, all twenty two,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: But they're you know, there's people say oh no, if
Speaker 1: you watch him this then, and I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: haven't you know, I haven't seen times where I felt like,
Speaker 1: oh he was just really bad on that one. Oh
Speaker 1: he was just oh man, it was bad right there.
Speaker 1: I just I don't understand. I mean, some people watch
Speaker 1: these games and maybe they see it different than me,
Speaker 1: you know, which is okay. I mean everybody sees these
Speaker 1: games different. I get it, But I just can't understand
Speaker 1: that why, like a pro football focus would say, well,
Speaker 1: this is kind of a down year for I mean,
Speaker 1: he can have an A minus and be a down year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, down. I mean that he's got room room
Speaker 1: to grow there, or room to him not grow. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I think that. Um, I'm pretty pleased
Speaker 1: with everything they've done so far, because week after week
Speaker 1: when we talk about the opponents and all that, there's
Speaker 1: always one or two pass rushers that we mentioned that
Speaker 1: are very talented. They don't end up being someone that
Speaker 1: kills you in the game. They handle them very well. Also,
Speaker 1: I feel like we haven't been talking about holding penalties
Speaker 1: in the past few weeks, that it seems to have
Speaker 1: gone down tremendously, especially since last year and at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the year. I remember, I can't remember how
Speaker 1: many the first game they got, but it was so
Speaker 1: it was enough for us to keep discussing the issue. Well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the thing it's interesting is I think that the teams
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys had played with the bad offensive lines,
Speaker 1: like the Commanders, the Rams, the Bengals and all that,
Speaker 1: there would be five there would be five of the
Speaker 1: five guys you had that start. They would take any
Speaker 1: one of your guys. They would absolutely be happy with
Speaker 1: the five guys you got starting right now. They would say, sure,
Speaker 1: we'll take your We'll take your tackle, we'll take your guard,
Speaker 1: we'll take your center. You know, with the situation that
Speaker 1: they're in, right, we'll speaking of center, I mean, Nick,
Speaker 1: that's the yeah. I mean you've been you've been. I
Speaker 1: got nothing he the center position for a while, so
Speaker 1: now you're good. I mean, he hasn't been a problem.
Speaker 1: There's been the liability. I mean one snap the other night,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Christmas was going to come before that.
Speaker 1: I mean, the ball just was took forever to get there.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, the snaps have been good.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing you're gonna see with the center
Speaker 1: is low high, you know, all that stuff. You're gonna
Speaker 1: see that, and he's gotten better there and he's not
Speaker 1: getting just mauled and pushed back. I mean, it happens,
Speaker 1: but but you know, he's technique obviously pretty good. One
Speaker 1: of the better centers in the league is the Kelsey
Speaker 1: and he almost messed up the game. If Dorian's Armstrong's
Speaker 1: hands were just a little bit quicker, they'd had that fumble,
Speaker 1: miss snap and had been right there on the doorstep.
Speaker 1: You know, it's something that kind of could turn the
Speaker 1: game around. But yeah, these centers sometimes they're you know,
Speaker 1: even the best ones have those moments where you're like going,
Speaker 1: what did you just do? Bro? Trying to give the
Speaker 1: way a game? You know. Yeah, they've they've really kept
Speaker 1: I think they've kept Cooper no sacks last week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say the sack percentage for this
Speaker 1: team that ranked sixth in the league in sacks percentage.
Speaker 1: Sack percentage so basically the number of times they actually
Speaker 1: attempt to pass, the number of times they're sacked per attempt. Uh. There,
Speaker 1: they're sixth in the league only giving up a sack.
Speaker 1: What is at four point nine percent of the time,
Speaker 1: So that's pretty impressive. And uh, and especially when you
Speaker 1: got a quarterback as we've talked about that's not really
Speaker 1: a mobile guy. For him not to be getting sacked
Speaker 1: and to be doing that at that rate like that's
Speaker 1: I think that's very, very impressive because a lot of
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are some of the better teams that have
Speaker 1: those kind of numbers are have have some of the
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league. Tampa Bay, Kansas City, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: the Chargers, like he's a right above them. You can
Speaker 1: say what you want about them, but they're actually playing
Speaker 1: good football right now. Vikings getting no respect, They get
Speaker 1: no respect whatever, right, never get any respect? All right? Um,
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