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Speaker 1: Good morning, Swivel and welcome to the Nodungks podcast on

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Speaker 1: the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, April seventh, and my Wi

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Speaker 1: Fi connection is already gone to shit. I'm j ea

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Speaker 1: skeets alongside me thanks to the power of technology. Fingers

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Speaker 2: Mellis hey man, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's great to be back. We got our top

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Speaker 3: shat hopway over there. Trey Kirby, Hey hey, and making

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Speaker 3: a match happen. Filling in all week long for JD

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Speaker 3: Super guest producer Andrew Schleck.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Andrew?

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Speaker 4: Still hanging out in the yard with the boys.

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Speaker 5: Nice?

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Speaker 1: Yes, something's going on here with my yard, m WiFi

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Speaker 1: and my computer. Uh so, well, I'm calling it now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop out at some point and test, take

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Speaker 1: the reins and run with it like he did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You guys had a great show. I did a little

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Speaker 1: load management. Trey just took it off as we get

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Speaker 1: ready for the playoffs. Yeah, it looks like your WiFi

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Speaker 1: is doing the same. Hopefully it's all back ready for

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Speaker 1: next week. Kicking it. Uh had a great time up

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Speaker 1: in the mountains. It looks like though seeing some dogs.

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Speaker 5: One dog that looks like a lion, if I'm being

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Speaker 5: quite honest, the lion ish dog.

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Speaker 1: That dog that looks like a lion. At one point

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Speaker 1: was chasing like eleven deer through the woods. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what he was going to do if he ever

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Speaker 1: caught them. He didn't, but he gave it a go,

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Speaker 1: and Luna was a little more baffled, like what is

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Speaker 1: going on? What does he think he's doing? But anyway,

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Speaker 1: shouted out to the stream team. Joining us live right

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Speaker 1: now on YouTube, Subscribe, like, comment, share the show. Emailing

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Speaker 1: your NBA questions too, No Dunks at the Athletic dot

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Speaker 1: Com as you always do before we get in to

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Speaker 1: last night's games. We got some fun questions too, tasks

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Speaker 1: about like anticipated playoff matchups we want to see and

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Speaker 1: players under press sure heading into the postseason and all

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Speaker 1: of that. We had a couple of weggies, and I

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Speaker 1: say a couple because we had one last night, which

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Speaker 1: will show you in a second, But you guys missed one.

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Speaker 1: I go away one day and you guys miss a weggie.

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Speaker 1: Keeps me up at night. But luckily the No Dunk's

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Speaker 1: faithful was tweeting it in, instagramming it in and This

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Speaker 1: was Tuesday night. It's your at seven with the very

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Speaker 1: rare block slash foul weggie on a Bridge's dunk attempt

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Speaker 1: as it jams in there. I think some I think

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Speaker 1: I have that correct, because there was a little jarring

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Speaker 1: that was number thirty five I was on Tuesday. That's

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Speaker 1: an impressive wedgie right there. Yeah, Like, man, that would

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Speaker 1: have been a monster dunk by Miles Bridges. To even

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Speaker 1: The underneath, the underneath underboob weggie, if you will just

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Speaker 1: all right, good stuff. That's Tuesday. And then we had

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Speaker 1: another last night, so Leggie number thirty six, and this

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Speaker 1: don't believe there was sort of any contact from Craig

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Speaker 1: he went down hard. He was okay. But that's that's

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Speaker 1: Wegi thirty six. So there we go, two and two nights.

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Speaker 2: It sure seems like NBA players are aware that we're

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Speaker 2: not getting anywhere close to fifty weggies, and maybe they're

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Speaker 2: all right. But yeah, I love that first one because

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Speaker 2: we had a fan text in and say, hey, you

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Speaker 2: guys missed a weggie because I think it happened in

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Speaker 2: But it was questionable. It was it was on a foul.

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Speaker 1: Uh so really, you're right, I mean, very rare that

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Speaker 5: That one's amazing because it comes off a bank shot,

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Speaker 5: anytime you see allegie, gotta be feeling great.

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Speaker 4: It's a big night for people who think that magnets

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Speaker 4: Holy Loly.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's great to have Andrew produce it, because

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Speaker 1: It was meant to be. Yeah, that's right. You got

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Speaker 1: sticking a legend. Amazing. Okay, let's get into some of

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Speaker 2: Well, let's start with the Nets cuz I know they

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Speaker 2: Like if they play this well, whoever they play, whether

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Speaker 2: Then he shows up and he starts banging home shots,

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Speaker 2: so he was important. And the Nets, Yeah, there again

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Speaker 2: don't care. And on the second night of back to

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Speaker 1: What did you think of the retrocast? I don't know

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Speaker 1: an All Star type guy, they're dangerous when you pair

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Speaker 1: him with Tatum. So this is just a dominant victory

432
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Speaker 1: from them, and they look amazing here as we get

433
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Speaker 1: down to the home stretch.

434
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I'm sort of overblowing how

435
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 2: each of the top Eastern Conference teams has a legit

436
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Speaker 2: shot at getting to the NBA Finals. In by top teams,

437
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Speaker 2: I mean Miami, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and the Celtics. I think

438
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: those four teams legit legitimately, no one would be surprised

439
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Speaker 2: if any of them made it to the finals. I

440
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Speaker 2: am I just living in the moment because it doesn't

441
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Speaker 2: feel like there's four legit teams year to year that

442
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Speaker 2: can make it. But and I'm not just looking at

443
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Speaker 2: the record, It's it's more about how how they're playing.

444
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: I mean, the reps are only you know, three wins,

445
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Speaker 2: less than you know the fourth place sixers, but I'm

446
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Speaker 2: not including them at this point. But is there usually

447
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Speaker 2: four teams?

448
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Speaker 1: No?

449
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Speaker 2: Not usually No. Usually there's a runaway leader.

450
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Speaker 1: We were there's a runaway leader, then there's a second

451
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Speaker 1: one you can try and convince yourself, and then yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: very rarely I think you even get into a third team.

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Speaker 1: Good and then good, look you said four and you've

454
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Speaker 1: got to probably put the nets in there. Yeah, I

455
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Speaker 1: know you're a believer. So that's that's five that could

456
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Speaker 1: go to the finals for sure.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that it's have to turn it

458
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Speaker 2: up somewhere. They can't just you know, play quarter to

459
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Speaker 2: quarter the way they're doing it. But maybe they do.

460
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Speaker 2: But still, yeah, but you've got four teams between forty

461
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Speaker 2: nine and fifty two wins, and I don't think it's

462
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Speaker 2: just that there isn't you know, a sixty win team

463
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Speaker 2: in there. I just think that all these teams have

464
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Speaker 2: had a bit of a down part of their season,

465
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Speaker 2: I guess. And so the Celtics are obviously ride and

466
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Speaker 2: high right now and feeling absolutely great. Well, yeah, as

467
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: the Bulls said, I mean, trace Trey said that there

468
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Speaker 2: may not be a game six, And that feels like

469
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Speaker 2: everybody who who is a fan of the Bulls, who

470
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Speaker 2: writes about the Bulls is in that same sentence sentiment,

471
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Speaker 2: how long is this playoff run gonna last? Four or five?

472
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Speaker 2: Probably not six? And that's stakes for you know, a

473
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Speaker 2: forty five win team that you know, was felt like

474
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Speaker 2: they could join that group before. It feels like the

475
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Speaker 2: Raptors are definitely a lot closer to that group before

476
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Speaker 2: than the Bulls are, right.

477
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And it's fascinating here, Trey to see, like,

478
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Speaker 1: do do these teams, these these teams that we've just

479
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Speaker 1: listed that tested, Like, is the third seed like the

480
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Speaker 1: most coveted seed because of all of the high drinks

481
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Speaker 1: going on in the play and like possibility that you

482
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Speaker 1: would have to face obviously the Nets and Durant, but

483
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Speaker 1: even Trey Younglin the Hawks, let's say, you know, one eight,

484
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Speaker 1: like you don't really maybe want to feels like you

485
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Speaker 1: want to play the Bulls. So like, does everybody just

486
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Speaker 1: want the third seed? If Chicago stays at the six,

487
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Speaker 1: which it looks like they.

488
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Speaker 5: Are, well, I mean, come on, the Bulls are easily

489
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Speaker 5: the most beatable team in the top six unless year

490
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Speaker 5: the Raptors, who did lose three games against the Bulls

491
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Speaker 5: this year in four of their matchups, if only that

492
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Speaker 5: counted as a top four seed victory. Nonetheless, of course

493
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Speaker 5: you want to play the Bulls. But do you want

494
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Speaker 5: to give up home court advantage in the second round

495
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Speaker 5: of the playoffs?

496
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Speaker 1: I mean, do you want.

497
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Speaker 5: Like a the if the Celtics say in the number

498
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Speaker 5: two seed and the Nets get out of the play

499
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Speaker 5: and turn them as the seven that's gonna be tough.

500
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Speaker 5: And then say the Nets take down the Celtics in

501
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 5: the first round, then you've dropped down to three, and

502
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Speaker 5: now you've got to play Brooklyn in the Barclay Center.

503
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 5: You got to think next level, because honestly, any team's

504
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: going to beat the Bulls in the playoffs at this

505
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Speaker 5: point unless there happens to be injuries for their opponents.

506
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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

507
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Speaker 5: I think we'll see a little, a little jockeying, some shenanigans,

508
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Speaker 5: But at this point, it's like like Tassa saying, all

509
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Speaker 5: four of those teams that are in the top half

510
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Speaker 5: of the Eastern Conference bracket, I think they can make

511
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Speaker 5: it to the conference finals. If not the finals, they

512
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Speaker 5: probably don't care exactly who they have to play in

513
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Speaker 5: the first round.

514
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go over to the West because we have

515
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Speaker 1: Norman Powell, the General was back last night and he

516
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Speaker 1: put up a game high twenty four in his return,

517
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Speaker 1: and the Clippers beat the b Suns. Task they rested

518
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: a lot of their big names, but they had a

519
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: huge lead, nearly gave it all back, but they got

520
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Speaker 1: the victory, and I mean, really, what you think of

521
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Speaker 1: Norm Powell, And you know he sounds pretty damn confident

522
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Speaker 1: about this Clippers team moving forward.

523
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I'm watching them, had flashbacks to the

524
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Speaker 2: last couple of postseasons where you know they are a

525
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Speaker 2: solid bunch. So yeah, they're getting every weapon back. Now

526
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Speaker 2: it's just Kawhi time. What's Kawhi coming back? They got

527
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Speaker 2: Paul George back, they got Norman Powell back yesterday. As

528
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Speaker 2: we talked about yesterday, Kawhi on the practice court, not

529
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Speaker 2: on the game court quite yet, but who knows. They

530
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Speaker 2: need a guy like Norman Powell though, for that seven

531
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Speaker 2: to eight play in game that they are bound to

532
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Speaker 2: play the Minnesota Timberwolves because he gets to the line.

533
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Speaker 2: You know, unlike the rest of their lineup. They've got

534
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Speaker 2: Paul George says. They mention Reggie Jackson, Marcus Morris, but

535
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Speaker 2: two Zubats and then you know on the bench it's

536
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Speaker 2: Tarot's man, Lukenard, Robert Comington. They need a guy cool drive,

537
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Speaker 2: and besides Paul George, Norman Powell could be that guy.

538
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Speaker 2: He was a scorching hot yesterday showed that he could

539
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Speaker 2: do that. He had ten free throws and he scored

540
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Speaker 2: twenty four points in twenty three minutes. We've seen what

541
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Speaker 2: he did for the championship Raptors. He can really help out.

542
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: Hit his first six shots in this game. And yeah,

543
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: coming off the bench, he outscored the Suns thirteen to nine.

544
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Speaker 2: The Sun scored nine points. It was sixty thirty one

545
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Speaker 2: at half. But the Suns, yeah, as you said, they're

546
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Speaker 2: they're ready to chill. They're resting Chris Paul, Devin Booker,

547
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Speaker 2: eight In Crowder, and so Norm Powell out for two

548
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Speaker 2: months before last night. A wonderful addition. And it looks

549
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Speaker 2: like that that really difficult team that nobody really wants

550
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Speaker 2: to play either. I think the Timberwolves, if they ended

551
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: up in the seventh seed like it looks like they will,

552
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: are not extremely happy to see this Clippers team that

553
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Speaker 2: will have to go on the road to Minnesota where

554
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: they played well. If remember last year in the playoffs,

555
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: played damn well on the road. So I'm I would

556
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Speaker 2: be scared of this Clippers team as they ran into four.

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah, forty and forty now is their record. Though they

558
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: did have a thirty nine point lead in this one

559
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: tray and it got down to like a four point game.

560
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Speaker 1: It would have been the biggest like blown lead in

561
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Speaker 1: NBA history if the Suns had had pulled it off

562
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Speaker 1: in the end. But thirty nine is a hell of

563
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Speaker 1: a lot and they held on for the victory. But

564
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Speaker 1: what do you think of what do you think, like,

565
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Speaker 1: you know, Norman Powell saying we're a dangerous team, like

566
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Speaker 1: we can be here. Do you buy that at all?

567
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Speaker 1: Or is that just like of course they're going to

568
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Speaker 1: say that, or are you convinced like task sounds to

569
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Speaker 1: be over the last couple of shows, like this Clippers

570
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: team is. They're feisty, they got well coached. They obviously

571
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Speaker 1: got Paul George back, who knows what Kawhi and now

572
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Speaker 1: Powell's back and he looked great.

573
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Speaker 5: I think the Clippers are definitely a dangerous playing team,

574
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Speaker 5: and if they get to the seventh seed, if they

575
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Speaker 5: are able to knock off the Timberwolves there, the Grizzlies

576
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 5: should be a little bit scared, I would think, just

577
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Speaker 5: because this is a team that has a ton of

578
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 5: postseason experience. Some of them have played together, some haven't,

579
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Speaker 5: but all of the guys have been there, and they've

580
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 5: got a lot of ball handlers, which I think is

581
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Speaker 5: gonna be super important.

582
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Speaker 1: That's obviously.

583
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Speaker 5: You know, we see a ton of the times in

584
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Speaker 5: playoffs it's like maybe Paul George gets super super hot,

585
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 5: so then you have to adjust your defense. You're gonna

586
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 5: do anything you can to have anybody but Paul George

587
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 5: beat you. Reggie Jackson's been really solid this season. He's

588
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 5: got some of the most some of the best clutch

589
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 5: stats in the league so far this year. Norm Powell's

590
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 5: obviously a solid secondary or tertiary score. I don't think

591
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 5: Kawhi is gonna come back, but if he does, that

592
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 5: gives the Clippers yet another option. And Luke Canard is

593
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: a good shooter as well, so they got a lot

594
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Speaker 5: of perimeter options there. And they've got a very deep

595
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 5: team who understands their roles and how to make things

596
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 5: tough on defense. They've had an identity since last year's playoffs.

597
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 5: They're gonna play small, They're gonna play one big guy.

598
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 5: Hartenstein's been a nice addition for them this year. Zubach

599
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 5: can obviously give you some physicality inside and set good screen,

600
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Speaker 5: so they're gonna be a tough team. I don't think

601
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 5: they're going much farther than the second round. But I

602
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 5: think it's possible to get to the second round out

603
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 5: of the play in tournament.

604
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually think it would be a good thing.

605
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: This sounds weird, but I always like when a team,

606
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: so like the Grizzlies, who are like sort of new

607
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: to the game here and have plans to go far,

608
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: but we don't know because they're so young, if they will,

609
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Speaker 1: I like to be tested. I like when they're like

610
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Speaker 1: really tested in a first round series, like it's a

611
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: hell of a wake up call. You know, maybe it

612
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: goes long, like six or seven, but you pull it

613
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: off like that can help your chances moving forward. I

614
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: think sometimes it's like almost better in a weird way

615
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Speaker 1: in my opinion than just waxing a team that you're

616
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Speaker 1: like clearly better then because it's like you're not really

617
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: getting maybe the playoff like reps that you'll want moving

618
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: forward as the series get more and more difficult. So

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Speaker 1: maybe it works out even in a Grizzlies favor. The Sons,

620
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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about at all, Like, like you know,

621
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Speaker 1: the fully loaded Suns are gonna I think handle either

622
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Speaker 1: of the Wolves or the Clippers or whoever the hell

623
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Speaker 1: it is that gets the eight seed pretty handily. But

624
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies could be in for a fight and that

625
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: could be a good thing. I would still them winning.

626
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Clippers look feisty and this is the

627
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: healthiest they've been all season, which is huge. Other games

628
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: last night, just quick, the Jazz crushed the Thunder one

629
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Speaker 1: thirty seven to one oh one. So that's their fifth

630
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: straight victory. I know we've got some Quinn Snyder content

631
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: coming up later in the show, so stick right to that. Yes,

632
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: and we also had the Mavericks pummeling the Pistons for

633
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Speaker 1: their fiftieth win. So we had the Celtics getting number fifty.

634
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Speaker 1: We had the Mavericks getting number fifty last night as Dallas,

635
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Speaker 1: I mean inches closer task to wrapping up home court advantage.

636
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Speaker 1: It's it's I don't think it's technically a given yet,

637
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: it's not locked in, but the magic number's got to

638
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: be like one for them to have a you know,

639
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: actually host a series at home in the first round

640
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Speaker 1: for the first time since like twenty eleven, since their

641
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Speaker 1: championship run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's been obviously a phenomenal season

643
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: for the MAVs to get this home court advantage. And

644
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Speaker 2: I think something that's flying out of the radar with

645
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: this MAVs team is how good Jason Kidd has got

646
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: them to play defensively this They played the since last night.

647
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: The Pistons are you know, given everyone a run for

648
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: their money here at the end of the season, and

649
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: they weren't able to against the MAVs, who are doing

650
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: a good job of placing Luca in spots where he

651
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be involved in the action at all times.

652
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: And I think kudos to Jason Kidd for doing that

653
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: and forgetting his team to play ridiculously hard, and that

654
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: being one reason why I had Luca on my first

655
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Speaker 2: All NBA team. Is just their big accomplishment of getting

656
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Speaker 2: up there to a top four seed with you know,

657
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: as everyone puts it, Luca and and the others, which

658
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: is disrespectful to everybody else. But they're accomplishing a lot

659
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: this season. So it's a great year for Jason Kidd,

660
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: who has been labeled as a quote unquote bad coach,

661
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: but he's having a good coaching season.

662
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean the others when they when the

663
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: others hit threes, the Mavericks look at times to be

664
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Speaker 1: like very difficult because of their defense, because you have Luca,

665
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Speaker 1: but then you have like last night, Reggie Bullock three

666
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Speaker 1: for five, you know, good Gord Dridan Finney Smith three

667
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: for five, Bertons three for five. We are always going

668
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: to love that. Josh Green even hit a couple off

669
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Speaker 1: the bench. He's gonna set them up if they knock

670
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: him down to that type of consisting. I mean, last

671
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: night was forty five percent from three, So that's probably

672
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: not gonna happen every night there in the playoffs. But

673
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: man flirting around thirty eight thirty nine these games, they

674
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: can win a lot of games with that sort of

675
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: combo superstar talent in Luca. Three point shooting in a

676
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: lot of these guys, and like those guys are, that's

677
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: not like crazy for them to hit those type of

678
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: numbers and then defense, hell yah they I mean I

679
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: love that Their goal here, Trey feels to be like,

680
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: we want home court advantage and we obviously want to

681
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Speaker 1: win a series under Luca for the first time in

682
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: franchise history. Like I feel like that is like their goal.

683
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: It's a fair goal to have. Who knows then moving forward,

684
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: but I love.

685
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 5: It one hundred percent. They need home court advantage. They

686
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 5: haven't had it yet in a playoff series that Luca

687
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 5: has played in. And you're gonna expect better shooting from

688
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 5: your role players playing at home, and like you're saying, skeets,

689
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 5: that's the offense for the Mavericks. It's Luca, It's somebody

690
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 5: rolling to the rim, unless it's Cleeba, in which case

691
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 5: he's probably gonna be popping. And then it's three point

692
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 5: shooting from Brunson and Bullock and hopefully Dinwitty if he's

693
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: able to hit in Burton's because like Burton's is not

694
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Speaker 5: gonna be able to stay on the court in the

695
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Speaker 5: playoffs unless he's making threes. And I think that's gonna

696
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 5: be the case for a whole bunch of players. Dorian

697
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: Phinney Smith is going to be the absolute key for

698
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 5: that team in the playoffs because they need him for

699
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 5: his defense, just like they need Reggie Bullock. But you

700
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 5: don't leave Reggie Bullock as a three point shooter because

701
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: he has a rep as a shooter. Phinney Smith has

702
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: shot the ball incredibly well this year, but that's gonna

703
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 5: be the player that opponents gamble off off and say, hey,

704
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 5: we're gonna make it tough for Luca. Can you beat

705
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 5: us Dorian Phinney Smith. If he can, the MAVs are

706
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 5: going to advance, and if he's bricky, then they're gonna

707
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 5: really struggle come playoff time. As for the Jazz, back

708
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: to back twenty point games for Rudy Gobert. He was

709
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 5: nine to nine last night against the Thunder, which is nice.

710
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 5: And he actually had a nice game against the Grizzlies,

711
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: which we didn't really talk about too much on last

712
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 5: night's show. Twenty two points, twenty one rebounds, and then

713
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 5: we're going to an end the four quarter of that game.

714
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: You can tell that the Jazz have made a little

715
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 5: bit of a concerted effort here to get Gobert involved

716
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Speaker 5: offensively going into the playoffs. I don't think you're gonna

717
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 5: be counting on him as a twenty point per game

718
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 5: score come playoff time, but it's got to be good

719
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 5: for the chemistry to hook the big guy up occasionally.

720
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, was this helped out by no Donovan

721
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Speaker 1: Mitchell playing last night? Gobert getting more touches. Conley is

722
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: a good passer. Conley will get the ball to Rudy.

723
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Speaker 5: He didn't play last night though, No, but he played

724
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 5: against the Grizzlies, and he was getting to he was

725
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 5: getting to be the guy who initiated the offense a

726
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 5: whole bunch. And there are times where you'll see Mitchell

727
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 5: look inside, he sees the mismatch with Rudy Gobert and

728
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 5: he just won't throw it in.

729
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not quite.

730
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Speaker 5: As comfortable with the pass, but Conley's been throwing entry

731
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 5: passes to big guys for his entire career, so he'll

732
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 5: just throw it up. And I think that's super beneficial

733
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 5: to the Jazz. It just gives it just gives Rudy

734
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 5: Gobert something to do, and that's all he wants out there, man,

735
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: he just wants to be involved on that into the court.

736
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 5: He'll hold it down on the other end. So you know,

737
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 5: the Jazz hit a rough patch about two weeks ago

738
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 5: and they've recovered all right here.

739
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rudy Gobert just wants to be loved for sure, right,

740
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. His love valops and awards.

741
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 5: I think Man said that everybody has a different love

742
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 5: language out there. Some people it's words of affirmation for me.

743
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 5: It's gifts, just like Rudy Gobert.

744
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I love this from Four Morning Poops.

745
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: Before we take our first break, can you beat us?

746
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: Dorian Finney Smith sounds like the opening line to an

747
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: unpublished Dickens novel. That's a good comment. And on that note,

748
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: we'll take our first break. I'll try and fix my

749
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: WiFi although it is holding on so far thirty five

750
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Speaker 1: minutes in.

751
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: And we'll turn down my volume. I'll turn down myka

752
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: pretty loud.

753
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Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah, I mean Jad goes away, everything starts

754
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: falling apart, Andrew hold us together, man, We'll be right

755
00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: back though, guys, all right back. No dunks here. Wi

756
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: Fi still garbage. I should have just stayed at the

757
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: cottage if it was going to be this bad. Yeah,

758
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Speaker 1: I know, you know, And then I had I had

759
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: a decision to make here during the break. Can I

760
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: reset my router in the time of that five to

761
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: six minute ad break And I was like, there's no

762
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: way it'll be back. I just like, it takes way

763
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: longer than it should task. I'm convinced, So it's like

764
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: I just got to stick with this. Unfortunately, I'll do

765
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: it after the show. I guess I'm fuzzy. They call me,

766
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: call me Steph blurry in.

767
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: That's a good one with the way no dunks reads

768
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: ads though. Yeah, he said, fine, I think you could

769
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: have got I think you could have done it.

770
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Oh it takes it takes longer than five minutes for

771
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: that thing to power up, you know it does? I do?

772
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: I know? Anyway, got some questions for you guys here,

773
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: questions for the stream team as well. Play along, let's

774
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: hear your answers. I'll just jump right to the first one.

775
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: I believe this was inspired from our guy. Ben Gulliver

776
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: of the Washington Post had this sort of as one

777
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: of his main topics in his newsletter recently. But which

778
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: star guys entering the playoffs? Here? Because we're into the

779
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: playoffs very soon, which star entering the playoffs is under

780
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: the most pressure? Do you think? And for what reason?

781
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: Trey Wit? Where does your mind go to?

782
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 5: We asked a similar question in our preseason preview podcast

783
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: which player is under the most pressure this season? And

784
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 5: for me it was Joel Embiid in the preseason. I'm

785
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 5: sticking with it for the playoffs and I will throw

786
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 5: James Harden in the mix.

787
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: As well.

788
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 5: We've seen an MVP like season for Embiid no matter

789
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 5: what happens with the voting. He did everything that people

790
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 5: ask myself included, he played a ton of games. He

791
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 5: carried his team without Ben Simmons around, he grew his game.

792
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 5: He could lead the league in scoring. He's still giving

793
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 5: it defensively as well, But the next step is doing

794
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: it in the postseason for the entirety of his tenure

795
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 5: in the postseason. Because we've seen some monster performances from

796
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 5: Embiid throughout the years, and we've also seen him slow

797
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 5: down at times, kind of run out of steam as

798
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 5: series progress. He's had some turnover problems when things get

799
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Speaker 5: a little hairy.

800
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: So there are.

801
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 5: Improvements to be made, and we've definitely seen the Sixers

802
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: struggle in the past whenever Joel embi goes to the bench,

803
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 5: which is why Harden is under a ton of pressure

804
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 5: going into the playoffs as well. Everybody knows his rep

805
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: at this point. We've seen a lot of two for

806
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 5: eleven games. Zach Low has a great rundown of it

807
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 5: from a couple of years back, and it hasn't gotten

808
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: any better. In the meantime. We've seen the good in

809
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 5: Philly when he first got there, he was running around,

810
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 5: he was going to the corner, he was playing in transition,

811
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 5: and we've also seen the bad in Philly where it

812
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 5: just seems like he's not completely engaged in the game

813
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 5: and he's just looking like he's limping around out there.

814
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 5: None of it really matters until we see Harden have

815
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 5: you know, twenty five point twelve a sist games in

816
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 5: these high leverage games because he's had some disappearing acts

817
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 5: in the past. The NBA Finals to me, has to

818
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 5: be the goal for the seventy six Ers and anything

819
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 5: else has to be a disappointment. So shout out to Luisa.

820
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: That's pressure like a drip, drip, drip that'll never stop

821
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Speaker 5: until they look like world beaters, until they look like

822
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 5: a legitimate championship contender. Because we talk about these top

823
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: four teams in the Eastern Conference, and maybe the Celtics

824
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: are the team you want to play because they just

825
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 5: lost Robert Williams, but the Sixers are pretty high up

826
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 5: on that list too, because people do not trust to

827
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 5: those two come playoff time to show up every single night.

828
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 5: So that's a lot of pressure for both of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when it comes to dwell Embiid, because I think

830
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: the obvious answer that people will say is hearted, just

831
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: because yeah, he shit the bed so many times before,

832
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: and now he's like sort of forced his way out

833
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: of Brooklyn and he's with an MVP like guy and Ebid, like,

834
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: you got to do some things here, but Embiid is interesting,

835
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: Like I'm glad you brought him up, Tray because he's

836
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: yet to make it out of the second round. And

837
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: this is like for two years running, either the MVP

838
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: runner up or maybe even the winner this year, who

839
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: knows how they vote. He only has three playoff series

840
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: victories and they're against like, you know, pretty bad teams

841
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: for being honest, forty four win heat in twenty eighteen,

842
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: the forty two win Nets in twenty nineteen, and the

843
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: thirty four win Wizards in twenty twenty one. That's that's it.

844
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Speaker 1: So for him to be really on the level of

845
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Speaker 1: your Honesses and your Yokicic's and your tatums and your

846
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: bookers and your Trey young even like at this point,

847
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: like those guys have better postseason resumes than Embid and

848
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: they're all younger than them. So he needs to and

849
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: he's done it all season long. He needs to continue

850
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: in the playoffs to put that team on his back

851
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: and get a couple more playoff victories, in a serious

852
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: victories in them, I think. So I like that one task.

853
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: Is there any other one that comes to mind?

854
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would agree Embiid with a bullet number one

855
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: definitely not hardened on that team. It's going to be

856
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: Embiid in the fourth quarters that is relied upon a lot.

857
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: So in that light, I kind of think Donovan Mitchell

858
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: has a lot of pressure on him because he takes

859
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: it upon himself in fourth quarters to do everything, and

860
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: so that's going to be a difficult task for him.

861
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: Lukadacich has to get out of the first round, as

862
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: we talked about, and this one's an odd one. But

863
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 2: John Mortt, who is in the playoffs for the first time,

864
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: So is there any pressure on him? I guess not

865
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: from our perspective. No, he just show up in the postseason.

866
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: If he loses, that's okay again because it's his first time.

867
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: But I think when it comes to basketball, there will

868
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: be a lot of pressure on him because the Grizzlies

869
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: have the fourth best offense this season, but a lot

870
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: of that is generated because they generate turnovers themselves and

871
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: transition opportunities. They have the best transition offense, so they

872
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: go from the fourth best offense. If you take away

873
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: those transition opportunities, they drop to the twenty second ranked

874
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: offense in just half court opportunities. So I think John

875
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: Muran's gonna have a lot of pressure on himself to

876
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: create in the half court gain more with that great

877
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: stat So it's it's gonna be a lot of Hey,

878
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: the other team's playing well in terms of getting back

879
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: and stopping easy buckets and second chance opportunities, which the

880
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: Grizzlies also like to subsist on. So that's a pressure

881
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: on Jaw in that instance. And then I guess I

882
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: guess people are throwing up to Chris Paul. Hey, there's

883
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: pressure on him because he hasn't won a Champion Chip

884
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: yet and he's going to be the favorite in every series.

885
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: His team's gonna be the favorite in every series, his

886
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: team's gonna have home court in every series, and so

887
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: I guess there is a little pressure because this is

888
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: the first time in his career that that's going to happen.

889
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: There By far and away, the best team. So I

890
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 2: guess there's some pressure there, but there's.

891
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: Some there's some, but I feel like there's less after

892
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: they went to the finals yeah last year, but man, no,

893
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: he needs to get he wants to get that ring

894
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: and it'd be huge for his his overall legacy. I

895
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: guess just a quick correction on the Grizzlies too. They

896
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs last year. They played the Jazz. Yeah,

897
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: so they got a little turnment.

898
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right, that's.

899
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: Right, little taste there, losing in five to Utah in

900
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: last year's playoffs. But I love the Donovan Mitchell call.

901
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: I think that's a great one that I hadn't thought of.

902
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: What about Kyrie. Kyrie under pressure to like, you know,

903
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: play and deliver to help out Kevin Durant or or

904
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: is he not because he's obviously has a title and

905
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: he's just he's a different cat, And what do you

906
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: think try Well, I mean, I.

907
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 5: Think he's under pressure because the Nets need to have

908
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 5: great performances from Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving every single

909
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 5: night if they're going to actually challenge for a championship

910
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 5: this season. So I think there's pressure from that standpoint

911
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 5: because we just saw him have what like a thirty

912
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 5: five point game, but it took him thirty two shots.

913
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 5: That's not going to cut it in the playoffs. So

914
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 5: I think there's pressure from that standpoint. And there's also

915
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 5: a chance that, like he could be playing in Boston

916
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: against the Celtics, so I think there'll be pressure from there.

917
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 5: From a legacy, I mean, he's got a title, he

918
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 5: had a game winning shot in a game seven over

919
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 5: a seventy three win team, So he's kind of made

920
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 5: a little bit in my book, But obviously he wants

921
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 5: to get a second one, being the guy who recruited

922
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant to come along with him to the nets.

923
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 5: But I think Mitchell is under a ton of pressure.

924
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 5: Mitchell and Gobert are right now Chris Paul and Blake

925
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 5: Griffin at the end of their tenure with the Clippers

926
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 5: where you're trying to say, can we keep this thing together,

927
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 5: Let's give it one more run. It didn't work out

928
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 5: the last time, or the time before that, or the

929
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: time before that, but maybe this is the one. And

930
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 5: when you're playing, like when you're playing knowing that if

931
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 5: you lose four times, this could be the end of

932
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 5: things for this era that's really been your entire career.

933
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: That's tough. Yeah, all right. Our next question here, Tess,

934
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: you can get a started. Which potential so it's got

935
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: to be a realistic one of course, Like which potential

936
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: first round series do you most want to see? Like

937
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: you're just like fingers crossed, give me that one, give

938
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: me the popcorn, And what's your reason why that you

939
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: would pick this one?

940
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: I think this one's obvious. The Sixers versus the Brooklyn Nets.

941
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: I know we're all a little disappointed on March tenth

942
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 2: when the Sixers went to Philly and blew the doors off.

943
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: But a playoff series where Harden goes against the team

944
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: he requested a trade from, demanded out, and on the

945
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: other side, Durant and Kyrie against the guy who left them.

946
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: I think that's sort of an underrated part of this.

947
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: They want to kick Harden's ass just as much as

948
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: Harden would want to beat them. Joel Ebid versus Andre Drummond,

949
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: a guy who he's owned in the past, he's clowned

950
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: in the past. Uh, that would be fun. Seth Curry

951
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: against his father in law. Some some good little bites

952
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: for next Thanksgiving dinner Doc Rivers. So I think that

953
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: one's the obvious one. Am I am. I just still

954
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: still hoping for a good series like what we all

955
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: hope for on March tenth. I just I just legitimately

956
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: think that series has the most storylines, the most little

957
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: nuggets of everything. Now, there's probably some better basketball the ones,

958
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: but that one's the obvious one for me. I think

959
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: that would be a good, a good, a good battle. Also,

960
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: you know, let's have a local rivalry as well. They're

961
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: pretty close that I mean, I think I think they'll

962
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: be uh, you know, some crazy fans there as well

963
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: fans traveling. It should be fun.

964
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so you want Sixers nets, which would at this

965
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: point have to be a two seven I mean, I yes,

966
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: one to eight good technically still happen. But the Sixers

967
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: are two and a half back from the Heat, so okay,

968
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: they're right there, though only a half game back to

969
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: the Celtics for the second seed right now, so two

970
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: seven Sixers NETS. Task wants it because he wants revenge

971
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: for us not being able to fly to that game

972
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: or deciding not to fly to that game, and that

973
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: was the right decision to DA. But what about you,

974
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: Trey Well, to me, it doesn't really matter who the

975
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: Nets play in the first round because that's going to

976
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: be a conference finals ish kind of matchup because they

977
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: got to go against one of those top four in

978
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. So that is a lock.

979
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 5: It in guaranteed going to be awesome regardless of how

980
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: everything plays out. I've got my popcorn ready for the

981
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 5: Mavericks versus the Jazz, just because that feels like it

982
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 5: could be the breaking point for the Jazz and we've

983
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 5: seen them struggle against small ball teams like then MAVs

984
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: would be able to play and Luca it'd be cool

985
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 5: to see him win a playoff series at some point.

986
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: But I also love the idea of the Timberwolves and

987
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 5: the Grizzlies facing off if the Grizzlies hang on to

988
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 5: number or if they're number two, but if the if

989
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 5: the Timberwolves are able to hang onto the seventh spot.

990
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 5: Those are two teams that have been a ton of

991
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 5: fun to watch this season, you know. I feel like

992
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 5: through the first two thirds of the season, probably the

993
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 5: Grizzlies where everybody's second favorite team. Obviously with John Morant

994
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 5: going out, they've been able to string together these wins

995
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: despite having their MVP on the court, so that's been

996
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 5: really impressive. And then in the last third of the

997
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: season it was fun to be a Timberwolves fan as well.

998
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 5: You know, they kind of climbed up into the into

999
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 5: the league pass rankings, if you will, So it would

1000
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: at least be a fun sort of matchup between a

1001
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 5: bunch of a bunch of you know, we haven't seen

1002
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 5: the Timberwolves really in the playoffs. Anthony Edwards would be

1003
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 5: his first taste talents with a much bigger, much more

1004
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 5: established at this point, so I think that would be

1005
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 5: a fun one to watch as well.

1006
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: Seeing some votes here in the stream team for well

1007
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: anybody that the Wolves play because they just want in

1008
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Okay, there's that. Also got some Hawks Sixers

1009
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: love out there. A little rematch run that back potential

1010
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: two seven, I guess as well, just like like like

1011
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: guess like I guess Sixers nets would be so yeah,

1012
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: I hadn't really thought about that. You know, Trey Young

1013
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: going against Philly again could be something there, and there

1014
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: was some love even for a for a Sun's Clippers

1015
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: like we saw last night. Yeah, if you believe that

1016
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: the Clippers are going to be a tough out. Then

1017
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: that that could be a fun series. I still think

1018
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: Phoenix would take care of business there, but maybe think

1019
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: differently than I do. So I just can't wait for

1020
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: these to start. It's time, let's go. I love that

1021
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: the play and starts on what Tuesday? Holy crap, today's Thursday.

1022
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: We got one more drop podcast a little playoffs. Well,

1023
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: I guess technically too, We've got tomorrow's and then the

1024
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: playoffs won't have technically started until the Saturday. But that's

1025
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: why it'll be perfect. We'll do all our our previews

1026
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: for those series on that Friday Drop podcast. Okay, one

1027
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: more question here, and this one inspired by our guy

1028
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: John Holland. You're at the Athletic who yesterday did a big,

1029
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: long article on who he's taking in a lot of

1030
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: the awards. Now he doesn't have an official vote, but

1031
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: like who he was sort of thinking about going with.

1032
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: And the question I'm asking is, besides the MVP, because

1033
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: we've talked about that at nauseam, is which NBA award

1034
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: has your full attention? Which one are you just most

1035
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: intrigued by? It's piqued your interest, You're following closely. I

1036
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: will say the one thing that Hollander had in his

1037
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: article that caught a lot of people by surprises. He

1038
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: didn't have Tyler Herro for six Man of the Year,

1039
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: went with Kevin Love instead, and it was like, why

1040
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: are we so infatuated with just points off the bench?

1041
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: And that's the way it's been with six man? Which

1042
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: hero has? I mean, you think he averages over twenty

1043
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: points per game off the bench. It's crazy. But he says, no,

1044
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: Kevin loves been. I'm tu I agree with that, but

1045
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: I am watching. I know you'll hate this tray the

1046
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, the Defensive Award because I'm

1047
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: not I'm not sure who's gonna win this. This one

1048
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: feels like is Jaron Jackson Junior gonna win it? That's

1049
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: Hollinger's case, made a fine case for him. I mean,

1050
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: I know Lee's been going to bat for him because

1051
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, as soon as Draymond Green missed half the season,

1052
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: it was like, I guess this could be anyone's like

1053
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: Rudy could win it again? Maybe bam, what about a guard?

1054
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: Smart bridges some love out there for holiday, But Hollander

1055
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: goes Jackson Junior again, like Lee, and with the Grizzlies

1056
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: going twenty and three in games of Jamaran missed and

1057
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: him being a big part of that fourth ranked defense,

1058
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: that's that's big. He leads the league in stocks by

1059
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: a wide margin, your steals in your blocks, got a

1060
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: high block rate, and he just protects the rim. He

1061
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: laid out a great case for Jaron Jackson Junior as

1062
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: a DPOY. But I think I still feel like Marcus

1063
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Smart is going to get a lot of votes from

1064
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: the people out there that actually have one because of

1065
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: the Celtics defense and with Robert Williams now out. You know,

1066
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: it's I've said this before. They might look at it

1067
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: like it's sort of a team award, but you're the guy,

1068
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: You're the captain of that defense, so here you go.

1069
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: So that's my answer. I can't believe I'm somewhat interested

1070
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: in a Defensive Player of the Year race, but I'm

1071
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: just interested in the fact that I don't know who's

1072
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: gonna win this one, where a lot of the other

1073
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: ones that feel sort of locked up.

1074
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 5: What do you have, Trey, Yeah, the Defensive Player of

1075
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 5: the Year is kind of funny because it would have

1076
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 5: been Draymond Green if he had stayed healthy. Kawhi Leonard

1077
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 5: is obviously a guy who would be in the mix

1078
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 5: for it, but he hasn't played the season, and Rudy

1079
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: Gobert has missed a nice chunk of time, So it

1080
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 5: feels like at least there's an opportunity for somebody else

1081
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 5: to get in on here. But you got to be

1082
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 5: a true sicko to get fired up about Defensive Player

1083
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 5: of the Year because you start hearing about deflections and stocks.

1084
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 5: I don't think you hear about those at all until

1085
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 5: it's April and people are starting to make their case.

1086
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 5: So yeah, that one definitely feels like it's up for grabs.

1087
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 5: MIP probably up for grabs. The Ja Morant is a

1088
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 5: major favorite Rookie of the Year. Could we have a tie?

1089
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 5: I don't think it would be the worst thing in

1090
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 5: the world, Like a tie for an award sounds ridiculous,

1091
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: But Evan Mobley and Scottie Barnes have like identical cases

1092
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 5: for Rookie of the Year and they've both been performing

1093
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 5: for the entirety of the year for teams that both

1094
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 5: are going into the postseason, and they're both like lynchpins

1095
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: of their defense. Obviously, Jarrett Allen is the number one

1096
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: defensive guy for the Calves, but Evan Mobley and his

1097
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 5: ability to be an all defense like player as a

1098
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: rookie has made the Calves into their defense just as

1099
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: much as Jared Allen has maybe a little step behind,

1100
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 5: Whereas Scotty Barnes is exactly part of what the Raptors

1101
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 5: do defensively, right. He's like a six to nine switchable

1102
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 5: guy who can guard anybody out there. They're both probably

1103
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 5: better offensively than anybody thought they were gonna be this year.

1104
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: So I don't know, like, you.

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00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 5: Can't vote for a split, but it could easily be

1106
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 5: a split, and I don't think that would be the

1107
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 5: worst thing in the world. Let's go Grant Hill and

1108
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 5: Jason Kidd all over again.

1109
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: Hey, I love this idea because by all accounts, all

1110
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 1: of these people with votes, they're already on the phone

1111
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: with each other saying, Hey, are we putting Jokiches forward

1112
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: so we can get them on the first team with him? Beat?

1113
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: Are we doing that? Well, while you're on that same call,

1114
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: just say, all right, uh, you're gonna vote for Mobley

1115
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: and I'll vote for Barnes, and then we'll just like

1116
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: we'll evenly split it and we'll have a tie, Like

1117
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: it's Grant Hill and Jason Kidd back in the day

1118
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: for our OI. Yeah, that one's tight. It's down to

1119
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: those two guys for are Yeah, and most improved? Is

1120
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: it John Moran? Still? Like I know that he was

1121
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: the odds on favorite in Vegas, but he's now he's

1122
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: missed so many, so many games, and there are of

1123
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: course other great candidates. And also I find it still

1124
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: so weird this idea, Like, okay, hell of a jump

1125
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: to go from well, he really went from like some say,

1126
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: good to great. He was probably already great and went

1127
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: to like superstar level when he was playing. I thought

1128
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: we had awards for those type of players. I thought

1129
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: they were all NBA selections, But now apparently they're reps too.

1130
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, So tasks, which one are you intrigued by?

1131
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: As we sort of laid the case for a lot

1132
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: of these.

1133
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 2: I saw a headline yesterday that said Yanni Stettakoupo should

1134
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: be most improved Player, and that was our respectable outlet.

1135
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't just some uh some block.

1136
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: Wasn't bull sax sports or something. I don't know.

1137
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't Maybe it wasn't respectable. I don't know. Yeah,

1138
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: I don't know who gets most improved. The games played

1139
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: question is a good one, I think. The one that

1140
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: makes me think over and over and over again as

1141
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: to who would get my vote is the Rookie of

1142
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: the Year award. I don't know who who will take it.

1143
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: The fact that m mobiley has been hurt has definitely

1144
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: helped Scotty Barnes. Scotty's getting stronger as the year goes on.

1145
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: While it feels like m Mobile hasn't played his strongest

1146
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 2: here at the end, it felt like he he peaked earlier,

1147
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: and that's why everyone was locked in looking at this

1148
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: guy who could be an All defensive player in his

1149
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: rookie year for the having a guy on the All

1150
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: defensive team as a rook for the first time since

1151
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan would be a phenomenal accomplishment. I'm not sure

1152
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: he gets there now because of the way the last

1153
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: few weeks have gone. But ye, Scotty Barnes, when you're

1154
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: splitting hairs with how close these guys lines are, I

1155
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: think the fact that he's going to play more games,

1156
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, five to seven more games helps he's getting

1157
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: stronger as the year goes on. He's getting involved at

1158
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: the end of games in the offense a little bit

1159
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: more than Evan Mobley was towards the end. So that

1160
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: one is a real tough one. I think a split

1161
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: would not be a bad idea. I don't think John

1162
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: Hollinger's idea of Kevin Love being the six man is

1163
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: a good idea at all. I've watched. I think I've

1164
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: watched every Kevin Love minute out there. I don't get

1165
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: the argument. I haven't read John's article yet, it's flagged.

1166
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: It's a saved stories later on my athletic app. But

1167
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: I hit the thirteen and seven and being a consistent

1168
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: guy off the bench for the Cavs is definitely important

1169
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: for them. But Tyler Heroes twenty plus points is ridiculously

1170
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: important for the Miami Heat, who've missed everybody with a

1171
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 2: ton of games, a ton of absences from their starting lineup.

1172
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: But he's just as important even when they're playing as

1173
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: a creator. And so I don't get Kevin Loves great shooting,

1174
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: his his fantastic outlet passing. I don't I don't buy it.

1175
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 2: I think, uh, I think Tyler hero has run away

1176
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: with that award and and Kevin Love is important because

1177
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: they need scoring, and especially with all those guys out,

1178
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: they lack that. But yeah, the Heat need Hero and

1179
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: his playmaking equally as much or more so.

1180
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hollinger's vote for Love is just a pushback against

1181
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: the yay points guy off the bench that seth partner

1182
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: has famously come up with, which it you know, it

1183
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: generally goes to it's right, Tray, it's it's Clarkson, it's Crawford's,

1184
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: it's you know these.

1185
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: Type of but what is he doing otherwise? Yeah, he's

1186
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: he's sucking up boards. He's he's sucked up seven boards

1187
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: a game.

1188
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: But Love, Yeah, yeah, I mean.

1189
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 2: What's what's the what's the the argument there? I don't

1190
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: I don't think that. Yeah, that props him over those

1191
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: seven boards, props him over Hero at all.

1192
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: No, I would be voting for Hero if I had

1193
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: a vote in this one, I wouldn't overthink it holds.

1194
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: Maybe just he's thinking, clicks, man, this guy's smart. We

1195
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: gotta get something in here. Yeah, come on, he's smart.

1196
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: He's smart. He knows he gotta get some buzz going

1197
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: for this article. He looks like this is pretty by

1198
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: the book here. What could I do here? You make

1199
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: a case for Kevin Love. That'll get people talking, and

1200
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: it is because we're talking about it.

1201
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: That'll get the yard barking. When JD opens up the

1202
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: Classic Factory again, when he opens up the gates, we

1203
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 2: better have John Hollinger come in. Sure, get him in there.

1204
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: He's a local, he's a local boy. Get him in

1205
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 2: there so we could talk about this ridiculous argument.

1206
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: No, thank you the whole time. We're just gonna be

1207
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: asking about Kevin Love. That's it, all right, Well, let's uh,

1208
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: let's hear from you guys in the stream team all

1209
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: three of those questions. Uh, First off, which star is

1210
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: under the most pressure heading into the postseason? Which first

1211
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: round series are you most excited about you want to

1212
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: see happen? And then this last one besides m v P,

1213
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: which is still coming down to the wire, which award

1214
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: has you most intrigue? Hey, maybe you're real sickle. Maybe

1215
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: it's the coaches tray. It's not no, no, no, definitely not. Okay.

1216
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: You guys were furious when I wanted to include Coach

1217
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: of the Year awards.

1218
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I love it. Who do you think is gonna win

1219
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: it though, task it all like who do you think

1220
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: the voters ultimately go with?

1221
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: Not who you think could Yeah, it's gonna be a

1222
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: full Monty Yeah right, probably.

1223
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 5: Better if he gets Timbanaut again here, that's that's bad.

1224
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 5: You can let it happen once, but not the second time,

1225
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 5: not when they improved.

1226
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's winning it. Like who else is

1227
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: going to get some decent looks Spolstra, Taylor Jenkins. Taylor

1228
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: Jenkins for sure. I think he's second.

1229
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 5: Probably he's big time, the especially with John Rant going

1230
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 5: out of the end of the season and the way

1231
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 5: they played with him.

1232
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, we'll see. I know our guy

1233
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: Dan Devine just posted his picks for all the awards

1234
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: and he has an official ballot, so I haven't had

1235
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: a chance to read it that it just went live

1236
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: right before we jumped on here. But my point is,

1237
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: like you're gonna start seeing all these people with actual votes.

1238
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: Their columns are coming out here tasks for the next

1239
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: couple of days, and we're gonna have a better idea

1240
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: maybe where these votes are going to be going. Uh

1241
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: do we know when they're announcing all this stuff? And

1242
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: what are we doing with this, or like we're waiting

1243
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: until after the postseason and all that crap again, or

1244
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: do we find out right away?

1245
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: We ask ask all these ballot guys, these writers, you know,

1246
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: all these put casts that you're listening to, why don't

1247
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: they reveal when they're I guess it.

1248
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: Sounds like I got to catch myself and Mike Bass

1249
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: and find out when we're finding out these these actual letters.

1250
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: That's a joke for the sikos out there. If you

1251
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: got that one, you're in too deep. Okay, you've doug

1252
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: it as crazy. No one a referees name if you

1253
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: know the the the VP of director of Communications for

1254
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: the NBA.

1255
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 5: Then who you guys got home taking home ref of

1256
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 5: the year the big r O I.

1257
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: R oy this year. So I like, what's what's the

1258
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: guy's name that they call refbee?

1259
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, foul bay. I don't know what that guy

1260
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 5: is as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, what's the FIA?

1261
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Interesting? Okay, Uh, we're gonna take one more break.

1262
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: Ba's our Monday Night. John Schuman has written when they

1263
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: announces to be determined.

1264
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's what I want to thank you, John, Thanks,

1265
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: Johnny Good Almost what a podcast without mentioning John Schumann's name. Uh,

1266
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: we'll be right back for a little tweet of the night.

1267
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: All right, back here with the boys, little no dunks

1268
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: on a Thursday, Big sports day today, right, baseball back

1269
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: the Masters starts today just down the road from Lee's

1270
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: house in Augusta.

1271
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: I must have already tipped right, golf tips off?

1272
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they call that time? Yeah? Yeah, I

1273
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: assume so probably Uh Tiger's playing.

1274
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yeah, he had one hundred and seventy five

1275
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 5: yards on his second shot on hold one Jesus Man

1276
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 5: dog lock hit the front of the green and it

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Speaker 5: spun off, but uh he could save it nice all right?

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Speaker 1: So, and what the Blue Jays are winning the World

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01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: Series apparently this year, or it might be Braves Jays

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Speaker 1: in the World Series. So what's happening?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Touchdowns galore in baseball this season?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of field goals, a lot

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Speaker 2: of I just like say, different sporting terms for different sports.

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Speaker 1: You were I think it was you sharing an article.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was you test I saw it. What they're

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Speaker 1: allowed the catchers are allowed to like use this advice?

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Speaker 1: What is this pitch calm? Or who the hell's it

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Speaker 1: calls from com What is it?

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. So the catchers are allowed to have this

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Speaker 2: device on their armband which tells the picture where where

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01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: they's calling for pictures? Hey up, fastball, fastball in curveball down.

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Speaker 2: They press it on the actual pad and it gets

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Speaker 2: transferred to not only the picture, but three other infielders,

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Speaker 2: so they know where to position themselves, and it gets

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Speaker 2: it's in the cap of the picture and those fielders

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Speaker 2: and it's an audio fastball in no audio. Yeah, it's audio.

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Speaker 2: So it's opposed to reduce signe stealing number one, you know,

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Speaker 2: and also speed up the game because quite often catchers

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01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: will go out to the picture and they'll be like, okay,

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Speaker 2: these are the signs that we need to to deal with,

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Speaker 2: and we don't have pictures looking in their caps at

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01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: times for the sign wife works. Well yeah, hey, hey,

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01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people angry are seeing these comments here, Sam,

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: you don't know saying this is stupid. Hey, listen, listen.

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Speaker 2: It speeds up the game. It was done in spring training,

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01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: it was done in a ball. Apparently, it speeds up

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Speaker 2: the game, and it's it's up to the catcher and

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Speaker 2: the picture in the fielders. If they want to do it,

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01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: they don't have to do it, okay, but it makes

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01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: a fastball inside, So.

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Speaker 1: Won't like base runners just be trying to like stand

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Speaker 1: by the guys now we're here.

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they got to run away. And if

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01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: they want to play up the middle because the shift

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01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: is still still around, yeah they I guess they run

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01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: back to their position. I know it sounds crazy. It

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01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: sounds crazy, but apparently it's good. It's good for the game.

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Speaker 2: Good pace, good pace, good pace. Well, we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Let's get to a tweet of.

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Speaker 2: The night, tweed up the night, wowwitt.

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Speaker 1: Chunky tweet of the night segment coming at you.

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01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 5: A lot of hot stuff going down on the Twitter

1325
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 5: last night. But first I wanna show you something from

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01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 5: the stream team from Johnny Schumanni. Here he mentions, foul

1327
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 5: bay is David Guthrie, I believe, and that is exactly right.

1328
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 5: So let's hear your cases for David Guthrie.

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01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: Whinneyrough of the Year.

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01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: Oh my favorite Atlanta Brave, Avery Guthrie. You're wearing a

1331
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: Brave's hut. You remember Avery Guthrie, big lefty. No, no, no, okay,

1332
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: bye okay, bye oh.

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01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: Onto the tweet of the night. It's a big one.

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01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 5: Alluded to it earlier. We're talking about Quinn Snyder. The

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 5: tweet comes from Dana Underscore Green and the tweet is

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01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 5: about Quinn Snyder. He does not like the narrative that

1337
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 5: Donovan Mitchell is intentionally not passing the ball to Rudy Gobert.

1338
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: He makes a lot of.

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 5: Good points in this video, including that Rudy Gobert and

1340
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 5: Donovan Mitchell occasionally sit next to each other. For me,

1341
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 5: so in your face if you think they have problems

1342
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 5: with each other. But what we're talking about here is

1343
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 5: Quinn Snyder's beautiful vest that he was wearing for this

1344
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 5: looks like it might be insulated somehow, maybe like I

1345
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 5: don't know, Nike makes like those insulated running vests or

1346
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 5: something like that. But first thing I thought of when

1347
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 5: I saw Quinn rock in the vest was that he

1348
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 5: looks like the lunatic fringe Dean Ambrose back in.

1349
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: The Shield days.

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01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 5: Especially once you get Quinn going crazy on the sidelines,

1351
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 5: getting very upset. He's got, you know, a kind of

1352
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 5: a wet look hair as well as Dean did early

1353
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 5: in his WWE career. But then I couldn't stop thinking

1354
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 5: about this scene from Black Widow, which I just recently watched,

1355
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 5: when Yolena is explaining to Natasha that she finally got

1356
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 5: to buy something of her own and that it was

1357
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 5: a vest with a lot of pockets and you can

1358
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 5: put a whole bunch of stuff in there. So that's

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01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 5: what I was thinking about. You know, when you see

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01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 5: guys show up to a press conference wearing a very

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01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 5: cool vest, just think about all the cool bests you've

1362
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 5: ever seen. I don't know, so, yeah, you guys like

1363
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 5: to wear vests. Test, I know you've been wearing a vest.

1364
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 5: I've seen you're wearing a vest around the Classic factory.

1365
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 1: Here and there.

1366
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've I've adopted the Southern style of this

1367
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: southern gentleman.

1368
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: Here. Oh they love a vest down here.

1369
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know some people who wear vest.

1370
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it.

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: It's just it's just so easy, it's convenient. Keeps the

1372
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: heart warm. I don't, I don't.

1373
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,959
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't does it. I don't

1374
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: understand how it keeps you warm, but obviously somewhat keeps

1375
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: you cool enough to because I never understood the Yeah,

1376
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: like the the jacket vest. I guess what we're talking

1377
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: about here, not a suit, not a suit vest. What

1378
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: I just don't get, Like my heart isn't cold of all.

1379
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: It would argue with that, but you know, like my

1380
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: chest is not cold, but my arms are too hot.

1381
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: Like oh, that's why you got to keep warm triple

1382
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: h and F head, heart, hands and feet. You got

1383
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 2: to keep the heart warm. But yeah, it's like.

1384
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of heat through your head. A vest

1385
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean really, a vest is just it's shorts for

1386
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: your upper body exactly.

1387
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 2: I never thought of it that way, but keeping it cool,

1388
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: but you're still keeping it warm the same. But the

1389
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: camouflage with Quinn Snyder, I mean that's hot down here

1390
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: as well.

1391
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: Obviously that's camouflage.

1392
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: Isn't it a camouflage pattern?

1393
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: No, I think it's puffy, puffy. It looks like a tactical,

1394
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: though type of vest, like he's robbed somebody or like yeah, yeah.

1395
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 5: The question is like, what was he doing before this

1396
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 5: that he had the vest on?

1397
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: Well, you robbed the yeah, you got some diamonds?

1398
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's he storing in all of these pockets? But

1399
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 5: it's true vest back right now? Oh, sorry about that vest. Actually,

1400
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 5: back sweater vests are surprisingly hot right now. People love

1401
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 5: the Doug Funny look.

1402
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: Could be a good pick and payoff vest only Cisco style.

1403
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 5: Wow, here's your second tweet of the night, which I

1404
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 5: just thought was a hilarious tweet. Comes to us from

1405
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 5: Legiant Hoops telling us about a story on HBO's The Shop.

1406
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 5: Atlanta rapper Gunna asked Lebron on HBO's The Shop if

1407
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 5: his son, who is in high school Bronni could beat

1408
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 5: actual Lebron James on the basketball court. Lebron replied, Nah.

1409
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: He can't beat me.

1410
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 5: Lebron is second in the league in scoring right now

1411
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 5: and his son is not even.

1412
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: A senior in high school.

1413
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 5: But thank you for asking, Gunna, just so we can

1414
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 5: get confirmation. Lebron James still better than a teenager.

1415
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: Good tweet, that's yeah. I don't think the the open

1416
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: eyed I don't for a wild uh Andrew any thoughts

1417
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: on either that tweet or or the Quinn Snyder look.

1418
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: The vest.

1419
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 4: I think the vest is more of the speedo of

1420
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 4: the upper body because the shorts is just a short

1421
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 4: sleeve shirt.

1422
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: Damn shoulders. It's like showing thighs Yeah, that's good. That's good.

1423
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: You're right, all right, Yeah, that's better. I never really

1424
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: thought of a T shirt as shorts either.

1425
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 4: Over shorts, Like I don't know, I don't know, right

1426
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 4: the shorts case, that's.

1427
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: All got it is great. I mean I just noticed it,

1428
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: Like the last time we put it up, he's looked

1429
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: like he just robbed the bank. And he's sitting in

1430
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: front of a sign that says Zion's Bank, So it

1431
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: looks like he like just got that done, taken for

1432
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: all the money. Quinn, And how do you feel tass

1433
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: about about the actual comments, like if I, if I

1434
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: if you see two people sitting down having chicken fingers together,

1435
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: does that mean they're cool? You know, because that's what

1436
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder saying that they have they have they have.

1437
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: Lunch together sometimes sometimes Yeah maybe Yeah. I was not convincing,

1438
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: not at all, And he said, yeah, they they have

1439
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: lunch together sometimes. Do they ride in together to practice? No,

1440
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1441
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: That would be even weirder.

1442
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 2: Do they both wear vests?

1443
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 5: Maybe the Jazz should definitely do that, you know, like

1444
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 5: we've seen Lebron get his team a whole bunch of

1445
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 5: short suits. Rudy Gobert should buy everybody on the Jazz

1446
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 5: vests that they have to wear their first game.

1447
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: It's a great idea. Arms out too tough, look great,

1448
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: great tweets of the night there, Trey plural uh Sending

1449
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,360
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Speaker 1: Who were you with this morning?

1459
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 2: Parish?

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of it. Yeah, yeah, you guys are talking

1461
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: about last night's games. Go check that out. Support Andrew

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Speaker 1: doing a great job here.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of podcasts today. Andrew, you had

1465
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: the Ding, you had this one. You got no buffs

1466
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: coming up later with Trey and I as we talk

1467
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: about Survivor, I'll probably forgetting another one. You might have

1468
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 1: another one for all I know.

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01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 2: You're doing no bunts. I think we're doing a baseb.

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01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: What's our golf podcast called no Bunkers, No bunks, no buffs,

1471
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: no bunks, no dunks, no butts. It's like so confusing,

1472
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: no breaks.

1473
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: Sorry, Andrew interrupted you Where were we going to say?

1474
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: You've got another podcast lined up?

1475
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 4: Oh, I've always got another podcast about the reverse standing.

1476
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 4: So if anybody's into the other side of the NBA

1477
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 4: where we just talk about losing, down to dunk is

1478
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 4: always a place for where losing is winning.

1479
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 5: Okay, oh nice, get me on there please. The Bulls

1480
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 5: have been terrible since the all start. Yeah, you had

1481
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 5: me on the first half of the season.

1482
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: For the slam and jamble.

1483
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 5: You're like, we'll get you back sometime when the Bulls

1484
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 5: are playing well again, and it hasn't happened since unfortunates.

1485
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 1: All right, Well, check out all of Andrew's podcasts that

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01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: he's either hosting or producing or most of the times both.

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01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: Check that out for him No Buffs later today, for

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Speaker 1: you survivor sickos uh that has its own YouTube feed.

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Speaker 1: It's on podcast feed just Trey and I today. So mate, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say this now we know it won't

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Speaker 1: be true. Maybe it'll be a shorter version of No

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Speaker 1: Buffs with just Trey and I talking about it. But

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Speaker 1: you guys have sent in some great questions by way

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Speaker 1: of Twitter for our tree mail segment when we answer

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Speaker 1: a bunch of those. So check out Last Night Survivor

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Speaker 1: and then join us around three pm Eastern over on

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Speaker 1: No Buffs the YouTube channel if you want to join

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Speaker 1: us live, and otherwise that podcast will go up a

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Speaker 1: little bit later. Can't wait for that.

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Speaker 2: I got a question, Yeah, what was with that tribalkout

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Speaker 2: in your A block rather than your B block?

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Speaker 1: Can't we's that's right, that's right. I'll have to make

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Speaker 1: sure tests wrote in or wants to know about the

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Speaker 1: tribal that's letter today, But tomorrow drop podcast. Join us

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Speaker 1: here at ten am Eastern Live. We're gonna have well,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, a whole band back together. JD

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's still in Mexico, but Lee will and Theory

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Speaker 1: be joining us from Aruba. So we'll talk about tonight's game,

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Speaker 1: some big ones on and maybe should I do the

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Speaker 1: ten all NBA teams tomorrow to fire that out tonight.

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Speaker 1: That's a possibility. Yeah, that's a strong possibility. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if I have the time to do that. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: join us livee tomorrow morning. Till then Clipper Rose you

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Speaker 1: heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us in. Good news for you Andrew,

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Speaker 2: you won't have to produce no bunts the Baseball podcast

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Speaker 2: it's canceled because I was wrong. I said Avery Guthrie

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Speaker 2: was an old baseball lefty. But Craig Falcon are correcting

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Speaker 2: me in the stream team it's Mark Guthrie, totally to

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Speaker 2: I conflated Avery Guthrie, who I went to school with.

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Speaker 2: With Mark Guthrie, I left you, longtime lefty in the

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Speaker 2: league A long time.

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Speaker 1: I was Avery throwing the old hard game. Yeah it

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Speaker 1: was Avery good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Avery labeled me with the snowball once. Oh I

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Speaker 2: stiff got a scar from it.

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Speaker 1: Expect race today people just like me.

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Speaker 5: He likes to dream We're gonna build a house to

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Speaker 5: live in.

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Speaker 2: They say it's too soon, but I've never been so sure.