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Speaker 1: On the Bechdelcast.

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Speaker 2: The questions asked if movies have.

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Speaker 1: Women and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,

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Speaker 1: or do they have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zeph and

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Speaker 1: best start changing it with the Bechdel Cast.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jamie, Hey Caitlyn, let's play a game. It's me Jigsaw,

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Speaker 3: but it's also me the villain from the Blackening.

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Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, spoiler alert. I also went, oh, the Jigsaw

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Speaker 2: parallels undeniable. I mean, I know, it's like, yeah, every

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Speaker 2: horror movie parallel, so that's the whole point. But also

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Speaker 2: Jigsaw specifically, you get a beautiful Jigsaw.

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Speaker 3: Oh you know, but I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember the words from college motif, pastiche homage,

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Speaker 2: anything like you get one of those at the end.

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Speaker 2: Oh I yes, sorry, I just was effusive about you.

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Speaker 3: So is that a yes, you will play a game

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Speaker 3: with me?

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Speaker 2: Of course I'll play a game. Of course I'll play game.

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Speaker 2: And I hope that it is basically bar trivia. I

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Speaker 2: love that that's the game. It's bart trivia.

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Speaker 3: And you know me, I love a pub quiz. I

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Speaker 3: love bar trivia. I go all the time. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: played it by myself in Paris when I was there

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Speaker 3: recently brag number one very what's.

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Speaker 2: The movie very frances Ha when she goes to Paris

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Speaker 2: and just like hangs out, just like hmm, which lay.

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Speaker 3: Most of the time, hangs out by yourself. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: did manage to go outside and go to bar trivia. Well,

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Speaker 3: it was because it was happening right after the comedy

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Speaker 3: I was like, well, there's trivia here. There was only

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Speaker 3: like five or six teams, but I was in like

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Speaker 3: second place at one time because there was a round

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Speaker 3: of ten questions that were all Star Wars questions and

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Speaker 3: I got them all right, and it really propelled me

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Speaker 3: to the front of the group.

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Speaker 2: You single handedly healed relations between France and the US

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Speaker 2: and that it Yes, anyway, Welcome to the Bechdel Cast.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that was a very focused intro. We're

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Speaker 2: doing great, we nailed it. Yeah, Welcome to the Bechdel Cast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Jamie Loftis.

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Speaker 3: My name is Caitlin Deronte, and this is our podcast

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Speaker 3: where we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using

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Speaker 3: the Bechdel test simply as a jumping off point. But Jamie,

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Speaker 3: what is it though?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can tell you.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So, the Bechdel Test is a media metric created by

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Speaker 2: queer cartoonist Alison Bechdel, often called the Bechdel Wallace Test

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Speaker 2: because she co created it with her friend Liz Wallace.

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Speaker 2: Lots of versions of this test. We sort of use

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Speaker 2: it as a jumping off point for discussion because it

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Speaker 2: was originally created as a joke for her comic dikes

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Speaker 2: names of a marginalized gender who talked to each other

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Speaker 2: Low bar to clear. A lot of movies still don't

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Speaker 2: more movies than used to true. And there's also a

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Speaker 2: conversation we're going to have today. We have a highly

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Speaker 2: the right time, the right place, the right guest. That's right,

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Speaker 2: the stars have aligned. Today we are covering the Blackening m.

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Speaker 3: HM and our guest is a writer and comedian. You've

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Speaker 3: seen her on NPR and Sway in the Morning. It's

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Speaker 3: no Yea Brown West.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, welcome, thanks for having me on. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thanks for being here.

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Speaker 2: A true Boston twenty tens comedy scene reunion.

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Speaker 3: We did it.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 3: We are so good to see you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very good to see you both. It's been

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Speaker 5: a very long time. Jamie Caitlin and I just.

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Speaker 3: Saw Yeah, we were hanging out in New York. I've

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Speaker 3: heard of it. No, tell me more, Noya, tell us

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Speaker 5: I was very excited first come out because I saw

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Speaker 4: So I guess we were friends, you know, and.

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Speaker 5: So sure, the way cowedy works, yeah, you don't always remember.

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Speaker 3: That means we're friends, right. He doesn't have any idea

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Speaker 2: We've all yeah, we've all chose with him, and we're

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Speaker 4: Wow, we had like face book DM.

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Speaker 2: So that's another level. That's another level old friendship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I couldn't wait to see it.

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Speaker 5: So I saw it the opening weekend, and I saw

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Speaker 5: it again and then I have Stars and I watched

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Speaker 5: it like four times on Stars.

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Speaker 4: Love it so much. Nice, It's one of my favorites.

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Speaker 5: It's one of the three comedians that I know movies

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Speaker 5: that came out last year or the year before that rocks.

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Speaker 5: Well listen, we all know people in movies and we're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I didn't even realize it could be hiring us.

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Speaker 5: My manager has me in acting school now, and I'm like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: maybe a Viola Davis in the works.

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Speaker 2: I love this. The thing I do every couple of

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Speaker 3: At me and add me as well someday. Nice. So

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Speaker 3: you love the movie, You've seen it many times.

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Speaker 4: Seen him many times. I'm a big fan. Love the humor.

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Speaker 4: Something that I noticed right away in it is.

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Speaker 5: That they had every type of black person represented, like

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Speaker 5: Hell yea, even the nerdy guy. Yeah, he's a little

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Speaker 3: That what we contain multitudes? Jamie, how about you, what's

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the second time I've seen it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. It was like a movie I

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Speaker 2: Dwayne Perkins is an amazing stand up who I've seen

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Speaker 2: It just felt like a really cool split of It

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Speaker 2: what's your history?

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Speaker 3: I saw it in theaters. I was similarly excited for

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Speaker 3: It, and I was like, oh, I love Dwayne Perkins.

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Speaker 2: It is a very rewatchable movie for sure.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, let's take a quick break and then we'll come

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Speaker 3: back to recap it. We're back, and here is the recap.

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Speaker 3: So we open on a couple Morgan and Sean played

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Speaker 2: This like continues the grand tradition that I feel like

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Speaker 3: My horror movie.

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Speaker 2: Knowledge is not comprehensive, but like already you open the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, oh, they had only the budget to

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be someone a little too famous

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Speaker 3: So they are at this house and they're waiting for

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Speaker 5: We're just all black people too, because I've done it

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Speaker 3: They're all kind of not sure why Clifton is there.

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Speaker 5: Periodically, but we like actually had a tournament this Christmas.

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Speaker 4: We won every single time. It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, nicely done.

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Speaker 4: They were terrible. We got to know my husband is white,

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Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I've always been curious about it. Is it

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Speaker 5: It's just like Hearts, okay, but only you have to

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Speaker 5: got it?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: I never advanced from like go Fish and Slapjack.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I know how to play some game. I know

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Speaker 3: It's a two deck traditionally card game, although there are

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Speaker 4: So black people love bridge too, though, Okay, okay, nice.

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Speaker 3: In any case. So Clifton's like, I want to play spades,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they made him a drink, they got him a chair,

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, when Allison is like explaining the whole thing,

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Speaker 3: but they managed to kill him too after Dwayne pukes

439
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 3: on his face. Yeah.

440
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: The real I feel like I would throw up a

441
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: baska and chased right.

442
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: I really love that you just like flew through that,

443
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: like after he throws up anything like that's actually a

444
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: really impactful moment in the film.

445
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to overshadow it.

446
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 5: And something else you skipped from the other death is

447
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 5: like they reference the dance scene from Scary movie.

448
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot about that.

449
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 2: This is cinema.

450
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 4: It's all a references.

451
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: So now everyone is back inside. They've killed the two killers.

452
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: They pull off the second person's mask and he looks

453
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: just like the other guy and his name is Clive Connor.

454
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: It turns out they are twins, but it seems like

455
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: they were both hired by someone else to kill this

456
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: group of friends. Then Dwayne, Shanika, Lisa, and Nomdi go

457
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: back down to the basement to try to find their

458
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: other friends, Morgan and Sean. Instead, they find Clifton, who

459
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: appears to be dead.

460
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, another like saw coded moment.

461
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 3: He appeared, oh right, and then he stands up.

462
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: There is nothing more fun to be in a horror

463
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: movie when all of a sudden someone goes You're just like, whoa,

464
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: it's the best. It's like, yeah, it's just how like

465
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: I wake up every day and it's funny to watch it.

466
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 3: Yes, So there's a newspaper clipping on Clifton about an

467
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: incid from ten years ago where he killed someone in

468
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 3: a drunk driving accident, and they're like, what's this about,

469
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: and then twist, Clifton wakes up. Basically the saw music

470
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: is playing. No no no, no no no no no no. Yeah,

471
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: he is the mastermind. He's the bad guy behind all

472
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: of this. He traps them inside the basement and we

473
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: learn that he's basically enacting revenge against them because on

474
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: this night ten years ago, they were all at a

475
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: Juneteenth party playing spades and Clifton made a mistake during

476
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: the game and then everyone gave him shit for it

477
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: and he got really embarrassed, and he got drunk for

478
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: the first time ever, drove home and killed someone in

479
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: this drunk driving accident, and his life has been in

480
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: shambles ever since, with jail time and everything. So he's

481
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 3: getting revenge and the friends are trying to form a

482
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: plan to disarm Clifton using their like close friends' telepathy abilities,

483
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 3: but it doesn't work because he also can hear them

484
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: and Meanwhile, upstairs, Alison and King find a remote control

485
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: on one of the dead guys, and they're trying to

486
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: figure out how to unlock the basement, but they accidentally

487
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: turn off all the lights. So the friends in the

488
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: basement use this as an opportunity to fight back against Clifton.

489
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: There's a scuffle and they eventually defeat and kill Clifton

490
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 3: and like throw him into this very deep well. So

491
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: the six friends having all survived, they're now outside trying

492
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: to figure out what to do. They know that calling

493
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: the cops is a horrible idea.

494
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: And by this time the credits are inexplicably running right.

495
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: I don't know why. This is like a post credits moment.

496
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: Feels like a studio decision.

497
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 3: I don't know it could be. So rather than calling

498
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: the cops, they call the fire department, but then they

499
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 3: still get sprayed down, and that's like the little button

500
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: that ends the movie.

501
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 5: It's hilarious, so funny when I remember seeing that the

502
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 5: first time, I like, spit out my drink is so funny. Also,

503
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 5: something you left out.

504
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 4: Clifton starts laughing from the bottom of the.

505
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: Well, so he might not be dead.

506
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 5: That there's gonna be a second exactly, there's gonna be

507
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 5: a second film, which I know they're working on now.

508
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I saw that very excited. Let's take another quick

509
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: break and then we'll come back to discuss and oh,

510
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: we're back, and we're back. Where should we start? No yet?

511
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: Does anywhere jump up for you? Where would you like

512
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: to start?

513
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: I don't know.

514
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 5: There's some moments I just love. I really liked when

515
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 5: they sing the Sister Act song to each other. Sister Act,

516
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: So if you want to be somebody and you want

517
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 5: to go somewhere, you gotta wake up and pay attention.

518
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 5: So me and my sisters will randomly just like sing

519
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 5: that to each other, and whatever's happening calls for it,

520
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

521
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 4: So I like seeing that in a movie.

522
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: Sure.

523
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 4: And then I did like the part where the really hot.

524
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 5: Woman played by Antonette Lisa was saying why do black

525
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 5: women have to save.

526
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: Everybody all at the goddamn time when she's like.

527
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 5: Killing the guy, and I was like, yeah, that's my.

528
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: That was my little like, yeah, exactly.

529
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: Like Black House, black women power movement moment for the movie.

530
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: I feel like that's kind of part of a larger thing,

531
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: which is that like, women are allowed to do things

532
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: in this movie in a way that they're often not

533
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: allowed to do things in most movies, where like, you know,

534
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: obviously it's Shanika, Alison, and Lisa, they're you know, answering

535
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: the questions of the game. They're fighting back against the killer.

536
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: And I didn't clock any moment where a woman had

537
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: to be saved by a man, but we do see

538
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: Alison save King when the killer is descending on him.

539
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: In the woods, we have women killing the two masked minions. Okay, bellow,

540
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: Alison kills one and Lisa kills the other one. I

541
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: also appreciated that a queer character, Dwayne kills the final

542
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: big bads. So it's like you have characters who are

543
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: not normally even allowed to participate, well.

544
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 2: Not even allowed to live and yeah, to live to participate.

545
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah right. It's no surprise that a black woman co

546
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: wrote this script.

547
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to shout her out because Tracy Oliver is

548
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: I think, like a modern icon in comedy writing just

549
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: in general, because she started. I mean, she was the

550
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: writer who co kicked off Isa Ray's career with the

551
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: Misadventures of Awkward Black Girl back in twenty eleven. Yeah,

552
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: I'll never forget for some reason, like she and Issa

553
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: Ray came to speak at my school when I was

554
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: like a sophomore in or like a freshman or software

555
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: in college about that web series, and she's gone on

556
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: to have such a cool career, and like she was

557
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: a co writer on Girls Trip. She wrote a Barbershop sequel,

558
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: which the director of this movie, Tim Story, was also

559
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: the director of the original Barbershop, amongst many, many many

560
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: other movies. I'm sorry, I have scholarly journal Wikipedia up

561
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: two thousand's fantastic four, interesting deep cut. I think like

562
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: a Man one and two, the Shaft.

563
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: Reboot, ride Along and Ride Along too.

564
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: If there's one thing Tim's Story is gonna do, it's

565
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: stick with his franchises. But yeah, like a lot of

566
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: sort of modern icons are involved in this movie. I

567
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: totally agree with you, Kitlin, and I love how much

568
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: agency the women in this story have. I do wish

569
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: that we had more like because obviously it's a huge

570
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: ensemble cast, you have to be very careful about like

571
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: what relationships you're giving focus to. I do wish that

572
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: there was more relationships between women that were given focus

573
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: because I do feel like it was mostly the relationships

574
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: between women and men, whether it was romantic or not.

575
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: There didn't feel like a strong core friendship between women,

576
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: and I felt like, I don't know, I wanted that,

577
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: and you could tell everyone as friends, but there wasn't

578
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: like an ongoing sort of story between women, and I

579
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: wish that that was there.

580
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 5: I did write down all the instances where the women

581
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 5: were talking to each other about something other than a man, yeah,

582
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 5: or not involving a man, and it was like always

583
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 5: about drugs or spades.

584
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 4: And then there's like The.

585
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: Sister, which powerful interaction nonetheless, but.

586
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 5: Exactly it's like, I'm glad there's a movie where women

587
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: are talking about these things. But yeah, you're right, they

588
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 5: didn't really you didn't really feel that much depth of

589
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: their relationship unless it was the talking to each other telepathically,

590
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 5: because the women did that with each other a lot. Yeah,

591
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 5: but they weren't really talking about anything deep. But that's

592
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 5: also refreshing because as black person, nothing takes me out

593
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 5: of a movie more when all of a sudden there's

594
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 5: a deep conversation when it's a silly movie and you

595
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: know about whatever we go through in day to day

596
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 5: life as black people it's like, Okay, well this was

597
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 5: a comedy and so yeah, until you were like, oh

598
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 5: my life, I've had to fight and they literally are

599
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 5: fighting for their lives.

600
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: Here and you can barely complain, which I loved. I

601
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: love that.

602
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: I think what would have helped for me is because

603
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: we get there's only one real subplot in the movie,

604
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: which is the relationship situation between Lisa and Amdi, and

605
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: then Dwayne's sort of resentment of that, so the three

606
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: of them are kind of embroiled in this subplot. So

607
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: I think what would have been nice is if the

608
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: other three characters had their own subplot, and that would

609
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: have allowed Alison and Shanika to have a subplot, and

610
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: then we would have seen Shanika and Alison interacting more

611
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: and have a better understanding of their friendship or something

612
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: along those lines, where like an entire subplot revolved around

613
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: at least two of the women and we could get

614
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: a better sense of their friendship. Yeah.

615
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: I do feel like they attempted that with the adderall yeah,

616
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 5: that Shanika gives Allison, and then also with King being

617
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 5: so injured, like.

618
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: Just shot immediately and then shot in the same place, right,

619
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: they had to rescue him.

620
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 5: I feel like that was the attempt at that, but

621
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: maybe they cut some things. I don't know, Yeah, because

622
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 5: it didn't seem like a full sub story at all.

623
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that was the thing that I had written

624
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: down where it was just like I want the studio

625
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: notes and production history of this movie, Like what was

626
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: there that got cut? Because it is like a tight movie.

627
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: It's an hour and a half my favorite kind of movie.

628
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: Not complaining. I love when a movie is not three

629
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: hours so long. It's my favorite.

630
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: Unless it's Titanic and that's the only exception.

631
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: To that, and that it has to be three hours long.

632
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: But like, I'm not complaining about the link that I

633
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: am curious, like, because you have an eight person cast,

634
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: which relationships were explored in earlier drafts? What was left?

635
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: And why did the relationships that are focused on end

636
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: up being focused on? Because I'm honestly, I mean, I

637
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: like non d It just felt like, yeah, it ultimately

638
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: kind of ended up like the subplot ended up revolving

639
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: around this kind of like this straight couple from college,

640
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: and you have more interesting dynamics right there. I don't

641
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: know I'm being picky, but that said, I think that

642
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: the dynamic between Lisa and Douayne is really interesting and

643
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: not one that you see often explored of just kind

644
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: of how he it seems like in college was her

645
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 2: closest friend who she would go to when her relationship

646
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: wasn't going well, but not when her relationship was going good.

647
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: And that's a rare thing to see explored, And I

648
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: thought it was really well done. I just wish you

649
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: just got to see more between like especially with like Shanika.

650
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: I felt like there was a ton of opportunities for

651
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: her to like be characterized a little more because x

652
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: MAO is so funny and like can do anything. I

653
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: was like, give her more to do, you know, but

654
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: it's only an hour and a half, So what are

655
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: you gonna do?

656
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: Sure?

657
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: Right? Something I do like about her character is that

658
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: she swims in the lake because you know, this movie

659
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: has an agenda to like dispel a lot of tropes

660
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: or examine popular tropes, whether they be racist tropes or

661
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: just sort of general tired movie tropes, and one of them,

662
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: she says something like, Oh, I'm gonna swim to the

663
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: other side. I can see like houses on the other

664
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: side of the lake. They probably assume we can't even swim.

665
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: But then King is like, well I can't, and she's like,

666
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: way to be a stereotype, but you know, then she

667
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: swims in the lake. Also, she is a fat character

668
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: and she's the only one who does a physical activity

669
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 3: like this, which is also rare to see in a

670
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: movie where a fat character is written to do some

671
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: kind of physical activity like this. So I appreciated that

672
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: different stereotypes were unraveled there.

673
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 4: I love that too.

674
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that because in elementary school, like my

675
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 5: biggest friend was the one who like swam the fastest,

676
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 5: ran the fastest, and it was nice to see that

677
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 5: represented in a movie because you're right, you never see that,

678
00:36:59,560 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: you know.

679
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: Then also like I grew up.

680
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 5: In a family where we all swam, you know, so

681
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 5: that was also nice. Yeah, and it made sense. The

682
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 5: character that they had say I can't swim made sense

683
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 5: like socioeconomically too, because he was like supposed to be

684
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 5: this character that seems as though he was from an

685
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: inner city where a lot of people don't know how

686
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 5: to swim, not just the black people, like if you

687
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: don't have access to pools. So I love that they

688
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 5: it seemed like they even thought about that.

689
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would take like the length of three episodes

690
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: to go through the amount of detail this script goes through.

691
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: And just like, especially in the trivia sequences, I feel

692
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: you're getting a lot of like really overt references to

693
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: black pop culture. But like, also there's just a million

694
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: tiny moments in this movie where it's just like effortlessly

695
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: kind of taking down what you're expected to see in

696
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: a horror movie by just like letting the characters be

697
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: the characters. And that's the best mm hmm.

698
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: Obviously, huge theme of this movie is the story kind

699
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: of examining this idea of black as a spectrum, where

700
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: you know, some black people are quote unquote more black

701
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: than others based on interests or lifestyle or things like that.

702
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: And ultimately the movie comes down on the side of

703
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: there's no such thing as a black spectrum and it's

704
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: harmful to think that, although you do see the characters

705
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: like having to work through that and learn that because

706
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: they're talking about, oh, well, this person's more black than

707
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: this person because xyz. And there's a whole scene predicated

708
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: on that, and that's the scene that the original sketch

709
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: by the comedy Troupe three p right, It's like this

710
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: whole movie is based on that.

711
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: I was kind of waiting for that in the whole

712
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: because I was like, are they going to do the

713
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: sketch is the movie?

714
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 3: Are they going to do the sketch?

715
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: Because it was like a real famous sketch, and they

716
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 2: did the sketch I felt so it was like they

717
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: basically said the title of I mean they do also

718
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: say the title of the movie and the VideA You're just.

719
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: Like they did the sketch. Yes, So like, ultimately the

720
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: characters have to learn that, you know, it's their differences

721
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: that make them special and there's no one way to

722
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: be black and it's not as cheesy as I'm making

723
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 3: it sound in the movie.

724
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 5: I feel like they did already know that, and it's

725
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 5: very it's very funny that the character that didn't know

726
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: that Clifton was the one who even designed the game,

727
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 5: because they even say like what do you mean who's

728
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: the blackest? Like they're even like, what do you mean?

729
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: That doesn't make sense? And the things that they say

730
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 5: in that scene are so funny because they're usually the

731
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 5: things that are said to people to be like, oh,

732
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: you're not black enough, Like the thing they say to

733
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 5: Nomdi where it's like, oh, your original recipe black because

734
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 5: you're from Africa. That's usually that they that's said to

735
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 5: be to take away some blackness from a person, So

736
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: they like definitely thought about that.

737
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like Alison's Alison as a biracial character too,

738
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: and she is sort of repeatedly like dunked on forrit

739
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: kind of clown on for it, and that she defends

740
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: herself and like, and I also just love the sort

741
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 2: of contrivance that it's like basically a college reunion where

742
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: they all know each other, and it just like builds

743
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: the perfect world to be like, oh, I'm just going

744
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: to project who I was ten years ago on to

745
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: this person, and then you have to be like, well,

746
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: wait a second, why am I giving Namdi shit? Why

747
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: am I giving Alison shit the same way I did

748
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: ten years ago? And you sort of see the characters

749
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: organically grow through having to do that, and it's still

750
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: funny because they've known each other for ten years, so

751
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: they don't have to be like polite about it.

752
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: That's true.

753
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 5: Another thing I really liked with Alison's character, There is

754
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 5: a stereotype in the black community, especially at the academic

755
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 5: level where the mixed race kids are gonna be in

756
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 5: every like African American studies class, they're really gonna try

757
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 5: really really hard to learn every little ounce of like

758
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 5: black history. And they keep bringing that up with her character.

759
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 5: You know, she's the one that knew all the words

760
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 5: of the black national anthem.

761
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: She's wearing a.

762
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was really funny. Yeah, they really

763
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 5: did think of all the tropes they did, it was great.

764
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: But even in like addressing all of these tropes, every

765
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: character had humanity. Like there was no character that it

766
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: felt like even if it was like a very sort

767
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: of like broad like Jermaine Fowler's character, who I feel

768
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: like is maybe the least you know, like given any

769
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: respect because he famously voted for Trump, which is the

770
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: quickest way to lose respect for a character. But yeah,

771
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: that I would imagine, as Dwayne Perkins and Tracy Oliver

772
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: are ready script it has to be such a like

773
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: tricky like needle to thread of like how do we

774
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: show these stereotypes, debunk them and have these characters have

775
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: individual humanity? But they did it it just like it's

776
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: a really thoughtful script in that way.

777
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, they did an excellent job, because at no

778
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 5: point did I feel like I was watching a very

779
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 5: like stereotypical movie. I just I felt like, oh, this

780
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 5: was written by black people, and I can tell and

781
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: I feel very represented. Everyone that I watched the movie

782
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 5: with felt represented and it was good. I was gonna

783
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 5: ask you, guys, when did you realize that Clipton was

784
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 5: the murder? Because I realized it immediately in the in

785
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 5: the convenience store.

786
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's being very suss.

787
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

788
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: No. I feel like there are so many like red

789
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: herrings presented at the beginning of this movie where you're like, well,

790
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: even if it does have to do with the scariest

791
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: guy we've seen so far, it's probably not actually him

792
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: who's nearby and it's Clifton And yeah. I mean that

793
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 2: weirdly goes into conversations we've been having on the show

794
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: forever with like the Revenge of the Nerds kind of trope,

795
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, in the eighties and into the nineties,

796
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: there was this whole idea of you know that the

797
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: nerd character is owed to something by others around them,

798
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: and that we have wronged them, and that there is

799
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: a wrong to be made right. And now it's like

800
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: there's almost like an automatic like, Oh, he's not a

801
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: bad guy, he's just lonely, he's just a misfit. And

802
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: now I feel like that's come all the way around

803
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: because the world is run by cruel nerds. Yeah, so

804
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: when I see a Nerds stock character, I'm automatically like, well,

805
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. In twenty twenty three, when the movie

806
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: get like, you know, we can't be so sure that

807
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: we're supposed to be on this guy's side exactly either way.

808
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: Thrilled the feature main Fowler don't care in what capacity?

809
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: Right, That's true. He's always good to see.

810
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. That was the thing for me where I was

811
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: like very immediately suspicious of him, and I was like, oh,

812
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: he's probably the killer, partly because Jermaine Fowler is like

813
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: not playing to type at all.

814
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

815
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 3: Normally he's like, you know, a very smooth, sexy person.

816
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: Not that Nerds can't be sexy obviously, but like.

817
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: We're about to get a five hundred emails excuse me,

818
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: obviously we're nerds.

819
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah hello, and we do fine. No, but he's playing

820
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: not to type with this character. So I was like,

821
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: hmm that I bet that's like indicative of something about

822
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 3: his character. But then when he goes outside and gets

823
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: shot with the crossbow, I was like, I guess it's

824
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: not him. And then there's you know, the red herring

825
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: of Ranger White showing up and you're like, oh, is

826
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 3: he an ally? Isn't he? Can they or can they

827
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: not trust him? And he gives that like monologue about oh,

828
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: if I was invited to the cookout, be honored, but

829
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go because I know that that would, like

830
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: my presence, there would be a disturbance of an all

831
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: black space and I wouldn't want to do that and

832
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: all this stuff, and they're like, oh, that's actually a

833
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: pretty good answer. But then they find the mask in

834
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: his car and you don't know if you can trust

835
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: him or not, and then ultimately he dies and he

836
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: was seems like he was trying to help them. So

837
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: I've found that kind of rollercoaster of like can we

838
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: can we not trust this character to be amusing?

839
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, that was good.

840
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: It's a good fake out. Yeah, because it's also like,

841
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: I mean, this movie is doing so much at once,

842
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: where like it's straddling genres, it's trying to dispel all

843
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: of these timeoutit tropes, and it's just like trying to

844
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: create a coherent horror movie where there's like the right

845
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: amount of fake out villains and the right amount of

846
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: twists and it does everything. Yeah, I thought that twist made.

847
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: It's so cynical. But like, as a now horror movie fan,

848
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: when Dark Ranger White returned, I just looked at where

849
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: we were in the run time and it was like, well,

850
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 2: it's not him. Yep, Like, based on the run time,

851
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: it's not him. But I wonder how it will end

852
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: up not being him?

853
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: Right, that's true because it's like we just watched too

854
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 5: many movies now, or like you guys especially probably watch

855
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 5: any movies.

856
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: We're pilled.

857
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: We know the formulas. It's true, it's bad. I also

858
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: just want to shout out Duwayne the character, Dwayne the

859
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 3: person and writer and actor in this movie. It was

860
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 3: very important to Dwayne Perkins that there be a representation

861
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 3: of a queer character who's not just like the gay

862
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: best friend who has like very little actual characterization, who's

863
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 3: just there to be, you know, a stereotype and make

864
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: little jokes and stuff like that. And so obviously he

865
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: put a lot of care into writing and performing this

866
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: character that has dimension. Again, he's a participant in this

867
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: subplot with Lisa nom Dy, and it really focuses I

868
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: think on I.

869
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: Think Lisa and Duyanne are kind of like, if you

870
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: had to choose central characters, I feel like it's them

871
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: for sure.

872
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 4: For sure.

873
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I appreciate that he has this

874
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: subplot that characterizes him a bit more. And yeah, it

875
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: was again just important to Dwayne Perkins. He was talking

876
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: about especially the intersection of being black and queer, and

877
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: he wanted to really focus on that and make sure

878
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: that that character is someone who other people could see

879
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: and look up to.

880
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: So exactly, So, how do you guys feel about I'm

881
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 5: gonna do a deep black question. Two of the dark

882
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 5: the dark skinned characters did die first, but then they

883
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 5: have Namdi, who arguably is like maybe darker than both

884
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 5: of them, who does survive, and then everyone else is

885
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 5: like somewhat light skinned.

886
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 3: Oh you mean, with Morgan and Sean dying first. Yeah,

887
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 3: that is something that I feel like this movie would

888
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: have actually tried to avoid, and it's kind of surprising

889
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: that it went din Yeah right, yeah, because they do

890
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: talk about colorism in the movie and there's this running

891
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: joke of like Aunt Viv from Fresh Prince, and she's

892
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 3: eventually replaced by a lighter skinned actor. And there's another

893
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: moment where the group I think it's the ones who

894
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: stay in the house, and like after it's like the

895
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: sudden death thing, and one of the characters says, oh,

896
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 3: typical for like the killer to go for the darker

897
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 3: people first. So they're acknowledging colorism, and so it is still.

898
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 5: I will say that Lisa was also dark skinned, so like,

899
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 5: two dark skinned people survive, but you died first.

900
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: Uh oh makes you think?

901
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that also registered for me, And I sort of

902
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: went back to like, well, they are the two most

903
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: famous cast members, and I was wondering, like, is it

904
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: a legiti thing, because it feels clear that for the

905
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: most part, I think that this movie was written for

906
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: certain actors in mind ideally, but the first two people,

907
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if I'm playing Devil's advocate, I

908
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: would guess that the first two characters who die were

909
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: just written as the first two characters who die. Obviously

910
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: they're black characters. But I'm sort of wondering if it's

911
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: like whatever, the most famous black woman and those famous

912
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: black men that want to be in this movie, We'll

913
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: go with them. And then, like in retrospect, it sort

914
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 2: of ended up like you're saying, which makes total sense

915
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: of they are darker. I don't know, what do you think?

916
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

917
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: I literally asked that question to like see if you

918
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: guys would freak out. But I'm just kidding. It was.

919
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 4: It works.

920
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry for falling apart.

921
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: I was sort of like yvon Orgy and j Ferrah.

922
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they're both so famous, so of course they

923
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: don't have more than two days to commit to that exactly.

924
00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

925
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I I do feel like the lead story,

926
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: other than them fighting off a murderer, being between nom D, Lisa,

927
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 5: and Duyne was because like those three actors, I feel

928
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 5: like this was like kind of their vehicle.

929
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: It was definitely Duyne's vehicle. And then Antoinette.

930
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 5: I keep calling her Antoinette because it's just like her

931
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 5: real name, and nam D I'm not gonna saying his

932
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 5: real name. They're also pretty famous. Yeah, so I wonder

933
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: if that's why the other characters kind of got cut away,

934
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,479
Speaker 5: not saying that they're not a saerience because X Mayo

935
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 5: is very famous, Like, so is Grace Byers Chris Byers.

936
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean as an Empire fan.

937
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 4: I love Empire.

938
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, as an Empire fan, like that

939
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: was one of my first.

940
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 5: Like, oh, I know, I was excited to see her.

941
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

942
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 5: Her husband was in Origin too, which I love. So

943
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 5: that was pretty Oh wow. He's been doing stuff. He's

944
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: been directing a lot too. But I just feel like

945
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 5: they definitely were put every movie. You can tell who

946
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 5: they're pushing right, who they're trying to say, you know,

947
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 5: hello to Hollywood's book them in more things. And I

948
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 5: feel like that other storyline, like the romantic storyline, was that.

949
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 4: That was my thought about it.

950
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense.

951
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so hopefully it worked. Hopefully Dane will be more things.

952
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

953
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: Oh god. I mean, like, regardless of any criticism anyone

954
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 2: has of this movie, if Dwayne Perkins ends up being

955
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: a movie star, then we want it's gravy. It's fine.

956
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. Yeah, our close personal best friend, Dwayne.

957
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: Perkins, he's like actually on the phone right now with us.

958
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

959
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just shot Facebook messaging.

960
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: I will say that one of the members of the

961
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: comedy Troupe three Pete who made the original sketch, which

962
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: I believe has disbanded a few years ago. But one

963
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: of the original members was my friend Namdi. I don't

964
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 3: think the character Namdi was really based on him. I

965
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: think they're just like, who are the people that were

966
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: in this grooves? A lot of the characters have the

967
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 3: same names as the members of this group, but not

968
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 3: played by the same actors, with the exception of Dwayne Perkins.

969
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think Namdi is like supposed to be

970
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: my friend Namdi, so there's little flex.

971
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 5: So were they involved, like the other people in the

972
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 5: sketch group? Were they involved in the film? I actually

973
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 5: don't look that up.

974
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: If they are, I couldn't really tell they or not.

975
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure I did really in any sort of

976
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: like writing capacity.

977
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: I certainly hope they were compensated because this movie was

978
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 2: very much made off of the very successful comedy Central Sketch.

979
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, I wasn't able to find information about it.

980
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Another thing I wanted to point out, just a

981
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: small criticism of the movie, but this is a movie

982
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: that's guilty of having one of the villains have a

983
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 3: facial difference. Yeah, one of the twins has one eye.

984
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: And we've talked about this huge trope in especially horror movies.

985
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: But disability representing evil.

986
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, villain will have a facial difference and it's meant

987
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 3: to telegraph to the audience like this is how we

988
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: know they're a villain, or this is part of why

989
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: they're a villain. And this is a very harmful trope

990
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: obviously that the movie does still participate in. I feel like, similarly,

991
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: one of the villains has asthma and uses an inhaler,

992
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 3: the way that a lot of movie villains are often

993
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 3: written to have a breathing condition. So this movie does

994
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: still lean into some tropes, not in a way that

995
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: I feel like it was malicious. It was more just like, oh,

996
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 3: I'm writing a horror movie. What do horror movies do?

997
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: And like they just maybe didn't consider the harmful implications

998
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 3: of some of the tropes.

999
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 5: Even the makeup they put on Officer White. The makeup

1000
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 5: they put on him was to make him look weird.

1001
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 5: Like the way that his face was done in production

1002
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 5: was to be like, oh, something's wrong with him, something's

1003
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 5: a little off, even though he you know, he has

1004
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 5: a red herring.

1005
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: Like even in that and Clifton.

1006
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 5: Also, he seemed like he might have been like on

1007
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 5: the spectrum a little bit, which was also not great.

1008
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 5: They were really doing basically a caricature of that with

1009
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 5: the Clifton character, and I don't know if that's the

1010
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 5: way it was written or if that's just the way

1011
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 5: you know, the performance went.

1012
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: I agree. I had a similar note no, yeah, yeah

1013
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: that it just felt like there and again I want

1014
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: the studio notes history of this, because you don't need

1015
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: to other white characters very much to make them suspicious.

1016
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: It just felt like almost like sort of a default,

1017
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: like less thoughtful choice by whoever. I have no idea

1018
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: like is this a writer choice, this is a director choice?

1019
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: Is studio choice? I have no idea, but in a

1020
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: movie that yeah, it is like so you know, based

1021
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 2: on taking down all of what you're meant to assume

1022
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 2: in a horror movie, it felt like yeah, especially with disability,

1023
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: it was not as.

1024
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: Juicy, right, but the movie does yes, fun and funny.

1025
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 3: I also want to shout out the predominantly black production team.

1026
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: We've already talked about the director and the writers. There's

1027
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 3: also the team of producers is mostly black. The cinematographer

1028
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: Todd a dos Race, the music Dexter, story and production

1029
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 3: designer Cecil Gentry, all black filmmakers.

1030
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 4: It's pretty cool.

1031
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 3: Wow cool, And I might be leaving some people out,

1032
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 3: but those are, like, you know, some of the main

1033
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: creative decision makers. So just wanted to shout those.

1034
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 4: Shout out to Lionsgate.

1035
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 5: Allie's choosing diverse programming, so that's pretty good.

1036
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 4: They did joy Ride.

1037
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 5: Also they do a bunch of my favorite television shows. Yeah,

1038
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 5: the Power Universe is Lionsgate, so yeah, nice.

1039
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 2: And also just you know, box office wise, this movie

1040
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 2: was made for five million dollars. Wow, which is wild,

1041
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: especially because this is in last year dollars. This is

1042
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: in current dollars, and it more than tripled its budget,

1043
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 2: which is you know, I don't know. I feel like

1044
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: so often, especially with movies that are made by black directors,

1045
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: by marginalized directors in general, or by women, I mean

1046
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: just any marginalized director, it's always brought to like, well,

1047
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 2: you know, like if you can't get butts in seats,

1048
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: you can't tell us blah blah. But like, this movie

1049
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: tripled its budget. If there are not more movies like

1050
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: The Blackening or more movies from this creative team coming out.

1051
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 2: It is a structural There is no argument for this

1052
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: boofy being unsuccessful. It tripled its budget and it's funny

1053
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: and everyone liked it. So yeah, I don't know, I'm

1054
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 2: like getting ahead of it, but I'm like, shut up

1055
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: in it.

1056
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 5: Well, I do know that they're working on a second one.

1057
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 5: Well it's yet to be seen if it actually comes out,

1058
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 5: because those state of things you never know, but hopefully.

1059
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, people are trying to just like delete

1060
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: Hollywood in general, but we'll see, Yeah.

1061
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: We shall Does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss.

1062
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: The only other thing I had to say was like,

1063
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: I feel as if anytime there is a like niche

1064
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: movie that comes out so like a genre movie, basically

1065
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: like a horror movie, it's always like, oh, this is

1066
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: the first horror movie directed by a woman, and it's

1067
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: like treated like that, or this is the first black

1068
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: horror movie, and you know, this is not something that

1069
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: is big endorsed by the blackening. It clearly draws from

1070
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: the legacy of black horror movies. But if you enjoyed

1071
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: this movie, there is a whole genre of black horror movies.

1072
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: In case you need to hear that, because I feel

1073
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: like the way that Hollywood marketing works is very often

1074
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: any movie by a marginalized director is made to seem

1075
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: like the first movie that's ever existed, and that thankfully

1076
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: is very rarely actually true. And so if you enjoyed

1077
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: The Blackening, there are so many movies like The Blackening

1078
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 2: going back decades, and you should check them out.

1079
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: That's right.

1080
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: I would also recommend the documentary called Horror Noir, A

1081
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: History of Black Horror, which examines tropes and you know,

1082
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: horror movies in general centering black characters or that involve

1083
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 3: black characters. But it's a really good documentary that breaks

1084
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 3: a lot of that down. So HI highly recommend.

1085
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 5: On the same subject, You guys are very right. There

1086
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Speaker 5: are a lot of horror films by black people that

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Speaker 5: I loved in like the seventies, eighties, like every decade.

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Speaker 4: But would you.

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Speaker 5: Consider Leprechaun in the Hood a black horror movie?

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00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: I cannot safely say because I've never seen it.

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00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 4: Oh what would you know?

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00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 5: No, okay, but I feel like it was marketed that way,

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00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 5: Like it definitely was marketed to black people.

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00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, there are.

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00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 5: Lots of black people in miss I'm like, because he's

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00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 5: in the hood, he's still played by he's played by

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00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 5: a famous white man.

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00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 2: A Leprechaun Allprechon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, lepre in the Hood.

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00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've covered five hundred movies, but that is not

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00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: one of them.

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00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like it definitely. I understand why

1105
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 4: you haven't. I'll say that right now. I think Warwick Davis.

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00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 5: Honestly when it even tell people to watch it at

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01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 5: this point, but it has become sort of a classic.

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01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: So I mean, if you want to come back on

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01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 3: the show and talk about a movie with us, you

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01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: are more than welcome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a camp movie is a camp movie. Is a

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01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: camp movie.

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01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 4: That's true.

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01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't rewatched it recently, but I do have

1115
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 5: vivid memories of it, just like it just would not

1116
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 5: be okay in the stage or maybe it would maybe

1117
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 5: do great because of the way things are going.

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01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 4: But it shouldn't be God.

1119
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 5: So like maybe, Yeah, if you guys want to watch it,

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Speaker 5: I don't think you're gonna like it, but only.

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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: One way to find out.

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01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: It's like a Howard the Duck type vibe. I don't

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01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 4: know if you saw that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen a clip. I haven't seen any

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01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 3: of the Leprechaun movies, no, but I've seen clips from

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01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 3: at least one of them, and it seems goofy as hell. Yeah,

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01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: does anyone have anything else before we Bechdel test it?

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01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 4: No, let's back to test it. I feel like it's

1130
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 4: going to be good.

1131
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: It does pass. Yeah, Lisa, Shanika, and Alison all talk

1132
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 3: to each other in different combinations, both verbally and telepathically,

1133
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: and so that makes it kind of an interesting and

1134
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 3: novel pass.

1135
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: A telepathic pass, but it definitely passes.

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01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: Yes, So yeah, kind of that's all there's about it.

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01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 5: And they talk about something other than a man, although

1138
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 5: in the first thirty minutes it's touch and go because

1139
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 5: there's a lot of just talking about Namdie or do

1140
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 5: I Yes, very true, but they do move on from that.

1141
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 3: After that. They're talking about weapons, they're talking about adderall,

1142
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 3: They're quoting sisterrect too, you know, stuff like that.

1143
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 4: Love it, love to see it.

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01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 5: I was gonna say just on a because I'm all

1145
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 5: about intersectionality. So for intersectional feminism passes that test too.

1146
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 5: They talk about race, class, culture, sexuality, spirituality.

1147
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 4: It kind of like encompasses that whole thing as well.

1148
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely for sure. The movie scores very high marks on

1149
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: the Kent Test, which of course is a media metric

1150
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: created by friend of the cast, Clarkasha Kent. If you're

1151
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: not familiar, it's a pretty comprehensive list of criteria that

1152
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: examines representation of women of color and especially black women

1153
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: in media. So I haven't done a full breakdown for

1154
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: this movie in relation to the Kent Test, but i'd

1155
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 3: imagine it gets pretty high marks. And that kind of

1156
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: brings us to our nipple scale, where we rate the

1157
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: movie on a scale of zero to five nipples. Examining

1158
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: the movie through an intersectional feminist lens, I'm gonna go

1159
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: like four and a half on this one. I think

1160
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: it's doing so much. I love comedy as a vehicle

1161
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 3: to examine things like, you know, racist tropes in movies

1162
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 3: and to examine really anything. But I think it's such

1163
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 3: an effective tool for that, and I think this movie

1164
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 3: does such a good job of that. The different just

1165
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: kind of thematic things that the movie explores, the tropes

1166
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: that it seeks to dispel, things like that. I appreciate

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01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 3: that the women are characterized in such a way that

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: they are allowed to do things in the story and

1169
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 3: push the story forward with their choices and actions. I

1170
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: appreciate that they are distinct characters. There's body diversity among them,

1171
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: there's all kinds of stuff that we don't see, and

1172
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 3: this movie writes women in such a way that they are,

1173
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: you know, all the characters of this movie. But I

1174
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: pay particular attention to the way women are written in

1175
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 3: horror movies and how cautious and aware of their surroundings

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01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: they are, because women in horror movies are almost never

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01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: written that way. They're just oblivious, they're just like careless,

1178
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 3: not doing anything. But like these characters, and again particularly

1179
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: the these women and even more specifically, these black women,

1180
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 3: are like appropriately cautious and aware of their surroundings. So

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: it's not hard to do, but yet most horror movies

1182
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 3: don't do it. This one does. I appreciated that. I

1183
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 3: also think it's really cool that the movie centers Juneteenth.

1184
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 3: There's just so little acknowledgment of June teenth in Hollywood

1185
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 3: movies and in media in general, so it's cool this

1186
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 3: holiday is the backdrop for this movie. So much to

1187
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: love about this movie. I would say that where I

1188
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 3: would take off any kind of nipple points would be

1189
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: the few harmful tropes that it does lean into regarding

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01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: ascribing a facial difference or disability or neurodivergence to the villains,

1191
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 3: specifically violent villains. And it's just surprising that this movie

1192
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: does this since it seeks to avoid and subvert so

1193
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: many other harmful tropes, which is why I will still

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01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: give the movie four point five nipples. I really love

1195
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,919
Speaker 3: this movie. I think it's so funny, and I'll throw

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: my nipples to the original group three Peete and the

1197
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: cast of the movie, so that's who gets my nipples.

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Speaker 3: That can divide them up how they choose.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on like a four nipple about I

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01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: think this movie is wonderful. I think the fact that

1201
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: this movie exists fucking rocks. I think that the legacy

1202
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: of black horror like needed sort of like a shot

1203
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: to the leg and that the Blackening very very very

1204
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: much did that, and that it will lead to a

1205
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: number of wonderful movies. I do wish that because we

1206
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: have a cast of a lot of women, that there

1207
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: was more narrative space made for relationships between women, and

1208
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: I feel like the things that this movie falls back

1209
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: on are both what you said, Kaitlyn and I in

1210
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: the sort of ablest tropes that appear within the movie,

1211
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: but also just sort of the heteronormative tropes that appear

1212
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: within this movie in spite of the fact that our

1213
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: sole queer character as far as we know, end up

1214
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: being sort of the hero of the movie. Like I

1215
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: feel like in a cast that is about split down

1216
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: in terms of gender, if we're talking in the binary sense,

1217
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: I wish that there were more dynamics between women that

1218
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 2: we're seeing because there's a lot of setup that I

1219
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: feel like we could have had more of and there

1220
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: could have been explored more. But there are very few

1221
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: movies like this coming out at any time, much less

1222
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: last year. And it's a funny movie. It's a great movie.

1223
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: I really appreciate, and like want to shout out what

1224
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: we're just talking about of how the diversity behind the

1225
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: camera equals the diversity in front of the camera, because

1226
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: I feel like in so many movies that we talk

1227
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 2: about that have a lot of black actors in front

1228
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: of the camera, that energy is rarely matched behind the

1229
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: camera because of how Hollywood is structured and the fact

1230
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: that the blackening actually is like doing that on all

1231
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: sides is wonderful.

1232
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1233
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: I think it's a really funny movie. I think it's

1234
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: really rewatchable. I hope we get a sequel. Oh my god,

1235
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 2: I don't trust Hollywood with fucking anything right now.

1236
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 4: Same honestly, they can't.

1237
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: Seem to release anything without deleting it three months later.

1238
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: But this is a really awesome movie. I mean, it's

1239
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: fun and it was successful, and I want to seem

1240
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: more like it. So I'm gonna go four nipples. I'm

1241
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: going to give one to Tracy Oliver, two to Dwayne

1242
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: Perkins because you know he's doing double duty at least

1243
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: in this movie. And then I will give my final

1244
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 2: nipple two x Mayo because I'm a fan.

1245
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, how about you know you.

1246
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna go higher than both of you,

1247
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 5: but it's not gonna be perfect. I think I'm gonna

1248
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 5: do a four and three quarters nipple, which I do

1249
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 5: have three quarters of a nipple on my right side.

1250
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 5: I won't get too into it, but I agree with

1251
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 5: you with the ableism. And then also I do wish

1252
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 5: they built the female relationships a little bit more, or

1253
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 5: just you know, showed more scenes with that, I do

1254
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 5: appreciate that it was a short movie, Like you were saying, Jamie.

1255
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 4: I love a short movie.

1256
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 5: That's why I've been able to see it so many times,

1257
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 5: be honest, because it's like just watching a television show

1258
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 5: at this point or YouTube video. I watch all these

1259
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 5: retrospectives on YouTube. They're the same hour and a half.

1260
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 5: So yeah, I do like that. I know that there's

1261
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 5: a second one being worked on. Please let it happen.

1262
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 5: I mean, if the budget was only five million for

1263
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 5: the first one, they could do it again with the

1264
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 5: same budget. Hopefully they would get more money though this time.

1265
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 5: And that leads me to give the three quarter nipple

1266
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 5: to lions Gate for making it happen with that small budget.

1267
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 5: Thank you to them. And then, you know, just evenly

1268
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 5: disperse my nipples to the cast, the writers, the crew. Yeah,

1269
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 5: everyone that just made it happen, because that's great. I

1270
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 5: love giving my nipples away too, feels good.

1271
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: You know, it's slipperating.

1272
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 4: Give them away.

1273
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 5: Heal him of the XMA, then give them right back,

1274
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 5: all right?

1275
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:22,879
Speaker 4: That was CMI.

1276
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 5: Oh, can I also say, okay, this is you two

1277
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 5: are are white. But I do love that it was

1278
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 5: still just rated R. When they got to say nigga

1279
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 5: so much, that's very refreshing for me, like that they

1280
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 5: still let it have just the rated R rating because

1281
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 5: there was once upon a time that would mean like

1282
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 5: N C seventeen and C seventeen or something.

1283
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: You know, based on what I saw, I still feel

1284
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 2: like this movie could have warranted a PG thirteen.

1285
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 4: Same.

1286
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, the violence wasn't that graphic.

1287
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if you're going on a gore on.

1288
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: The thing that stuck with me the most was the

1289
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 2: vomit and that's very PG thirteen. I just can't deal

1290
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: with it.

1291
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 5: I think the rated R was because of the use

1292
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 5: of nigga, like the use of the N word, because

1293
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys can say that on

1294
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 5: this podcast, I'm gonna say N word from that you can, okay, Yeah.

1295
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 4: Sound like eight times.

1296
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean like we talk about that a lot though,

1297
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 2: of like why in the rating system, why do certain

1298
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: movies get our ratings? And so often it's just because

1299
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: of like something that is not commonly accepted among like

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Speaker 2: the white middle class is like what will directly influence

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Speaker 2: the rating? And I feel like I'm glad this movie

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Speaker 2: got in our rating, and I also think it could

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Speaker 2: have been a PG thirteen rating and done even better

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Speaker 2: as a result, because this should have been a movie

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Speaker 2: that was I mean, I think it probably was anyways,

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Speaker 2: because thankfully it is easy to sneak into our rated movies,

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Speaker 2: but this should have been a movie that was like

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Speaker 2: readily accessible to any high schooler, Like why wouldn't it

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Speaker 2: be true?

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Speaker 5: The first time I saw it there were definitely some

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Speaker 5: high schoolers there, so definitely people were able to see it,

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Speaker 5: So that's good. But you're right, it should have been

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Speaker 5: PG thirteen, So I take back my kudos for them,

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Speaker 5: because even with the use of nigga like they should,

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Speaker 5: it should have been PG thirteen.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they say fuck a lot, and I think are

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Speaker 3: only allowed like one or two fucks okay.

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Speaker 2: Which is also ridiculous and grow up like what fourteen

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Speaker 2: year old is like, Oh, one fuck okay, that's all

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Speaker 2: I'll use moving forward.

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Speaker 5: I used to say fuck all the time when I

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Speaker 5: was six. I don't know where I heard it, but

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Speaker 5: I got in trouble.

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Speaker 4: At school all the time for saying it.

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Speaker 5: If six year olds in Catholic school can say fuck

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Speaker 5: all they want, then it should be in movie.

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Speaker 3: It's a movie.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, every kid says, fuck why it's fun and it

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Speaker 2: doesn't hurt anybody true anyway.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 5: It was really fun. I'm sorry if I so quiet

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Speaker 5: all the time. I just like, really like how much

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Speaker 5: work you guys put into your research. It's like very nice,

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Speaker 5: and you guys have that very like MPR Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 5: Public Radio Comming voice.

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Speaker 3: I'll type the compliment.

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Speaker 4: Thank you m a compliment. I love it. What I'm

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Speaker 4: hearing is.

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Speaker 3: That I'm brilliant, yes, and so cool and also beautiful.

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Speaker 3: So yes, thank you, yes, thank you for coming on

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Speaker 3: the show. Tell us where people can follow you online?

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Speaker 3: Check out any of your stuff plug away.

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Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, you can find me my schedule at

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Speaker 5: no yacomedy dot com. No o n y ecomedy a

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Speaker 5: dot com. I think I have some stand up on there.

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Speaker 5: I don't even remember anymore. I'm gonna be traveling a lot,

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Speaker 5: so I'll be in New England a bunch of times

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Speaker 5: this summer. I'll be in DC and that'll be in

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Speaker 5: like September ish. Yeah, and you can follow me at

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Speaker 5: nony Fizzle at Gmail or sorry, no, not Gmail.

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Speaker 4: Sorry I'm on autopilot. I do only know nony fizzle.

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Speaker 5: Gmail is not my email address, so nony Fizzle at Instagram.

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Speaker 4: So that's n O n e E f I z

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Speaker 4: z l E.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm not really on Twitter anymore, but it's

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Speaker 5: at that, no ya. I will retweet stuff that I

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Speaker 5: think is funny. I might post a show so you

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Speaker 5: can follow me there, and that's just that n O

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Speaker 5: N y E. And also my ig in my Instagram.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, that's the same thing. I'm so tired, you guys.

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Speaker 4: I had no copy today.

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Speaker 5: My Instagram and my TikTok are the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now I'm done. Perfect.

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Speaker 3: That was beautiful. I loved it every moment of it.

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Speaker 3: You can follow us on mostly Instagram these days, but

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Speaker 3: also Twitter if you so feel inclined. At Bechdel Cast,

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Speaker 3: and awesome and beautiful as well.

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Speaker 2: And never weird and never does it's never weird.

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Speaker 3: little merch store.

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe I will. So we also have a merch

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Speaker 2: And with that, what does everyone say? We all, I'll

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Speaker 2: call the fire department and see what happens.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye, bye bye. The Bechdel Cast is a production

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