1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Everybody's second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: And this was a this was a little trip into 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: crazy town here. You had a bunch of Democrat lawmakers. Oh, 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: by the way, we've got Governor Ron DeSantis joining us 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour. Florida. Great things happening 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: here in Florida, but also conversations that I think affect 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: the rest of the country. If Florida can get rid 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: of property taxes on homesteaded properties meaning the place you live, 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: not businesses, not second homes, not investment properties or whatever. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: But if Florida can get rid of the house you 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: live in, you get to live in, and the government 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: can't just take it from you because you stop giving 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: them money. Why can't every state do that? People go 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: all but where are they going to pay for the 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: The property tax is actually a pretty small percent overall, 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: the kind of property tax I'm talking about just on 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: home steaded properties, pretty small percentage of many of these counties, 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: at least in Florida. And there's a lot of waste, 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: a lot of money being spent on things that shouldn't 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: be spent on. So anyway we'll get into that. I 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: think that's a really important conversation because if you live 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: I think doesn't Texas. Some of you in Texas have 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: pretty high property tax depends maybe where you are in 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 1: the state. I don't know how it works there. I've 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: had friends complain about their property taxes in Texas, so 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: that I do know people in the Dallas area for sure. Yeah, 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 1: we could get away from this because I do believe 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: that there is something philosophically wrong with you. Work your 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: whole life. Let's say, to pay off your thirty year, 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: not your fifty year, your thirty year mortgage in a house. 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: You pay it all off, and then if you don't 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: keep sending a check to the government based on the 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: increasing taxation, it doesn't even stay the same, right, increasing 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: taxes that you pay over time on that house, they 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: can seize your home. How is that right? 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: Right? 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: It just it just doesn't feel like the America we 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: should be in my friends. You know, I I'm I'm 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm very much in favor of getting rid of this. 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: You know, you can people say, well, well be on a 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: sales tax, Okay, yeah, you can cut back on you. 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: They're not putting that they're not gonna make the sales 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: tax on you. Know, ground beef and milk, okay, and 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: that's not where the money is going to be made up. 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: So you can cut back on consumption of other things 46 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: if you have to, and still stay in your house. Anyway. 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: I I feel strongly about this one, and I wanted 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: to talk to the governor about that and some other 49 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: things as well, so we'll discuss that. But okay, back 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: to this. This is this is for all of us. 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Can look at this one. This Democrat lawmaker PSA. 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: So you have. 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, Jason Crowe, they're both veterans. Elis Slotkin's like me, 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: She's just former CIA, former CIA analyst. We write great 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: memos and make amazing cappuccinos, like we're not former military. 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: So you know her in this in this ad is 57 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: kind of interesting to me, Like what are you doing there? 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: You know. 59 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: You don't you don't know anything about UCMJ and lawful orders. 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: But tell you something. Slotkin wants to be at the 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: big dance. She wants to be president probably vice president, 62 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: I think is what she realistically thinks she might be 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: able to achieve. But she definitely has ambitions beyond me. 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: She's already a senator. So this isn't. It's not crazy. 65 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: She's gonna run. She's gonna run. I think she's more 66 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: likely to run than Kama laclay. How about that. Play's 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: not here to make fun of my bad analysis on that. 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: So we'll get back to this next week. Here's this PSA, 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: though it's to make It's just a general public service 70 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: announcement they put out to members of the military telling 71 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: them the following play nineteen. This administration is hitting our 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: uniform military. 73 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: And intelligence community professionals. 74 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: Against American citizens. 75 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: Our laws are clear. 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: You can refuse illegal orders. You can refuse illegal orders. 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: You must refuse illegal orders. 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: No one has to carry out orders that violate the 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 3: law or our constitution. 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we know, what's the point of this. We'll get 81 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: into that. Here's my first objection to it, though, what's 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: the illegal order they're worried about? Or give us the 83 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: give us the the What are you talking about here? 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: Where are the orders illegal? The deployment of National Guard 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: because of a crisis in state. No, the president has 86 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: the authority to do that. So what exactly are they 87 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: talking about? If they want to make the case, and 88 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: I think they're they're they're getting close to this if 89 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: they want to make the case that this is about 90 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: the strikes against narco terrorists in the Caribbean and in 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: the Eastern Pacific, which means off the coast of Mexico, 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: basically West Pacific side of Mexico. If they want to 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: make that case, say that, why leave it's so vague. 94 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: It's a very strange thing to do. It's a very 95 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: subversive thing for lawmakers. Look, yeah, free speech, Fine, they 96 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: can say it, but I'm allowed to say it's subversive. 97 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: It's also like people these days. Yes, you can ask 98 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: any question you want, but people can also say, well, 99 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: that's a dumb question. There are such things as dumb questions. 100 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know where we got this. 101 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: People say, well, I was in school. Yeah, they say 102 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: that to encourage people to ask questions in the classroom 103 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: or in the workplace or whatever. There are dumb questions. Otherwise, 104 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: what do you call it when somebody says, well, when 105 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: did you stop beating your wife to a politician, just 106 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: to try to malign them, knowing that they never beat 107 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: their wife. Right there. Of course, there are dumb questions. 108 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: But I won't get into that any more than I 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: already have. Uh, yeah, why not just say that this 110 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: is what they think is going on, that there's some 111 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: problem here. Well, I think we all know a big, 112 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: a big component of the Democrat resistance is this fantasy 113 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is a king, a tyrant, a Nazi, 114 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: a fascist, all this stuff. And so that's why they 115 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: want to create this narrative that there are elements of 116 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: the United States military that need to be reminded, need 117 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: to be reminded that they can choose not to or 118 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: they're obligated not to follow in a legal order. Yeah, 119 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: they know. It's like putting out a PSA like don't 120 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: murder people. Murdering people is bad. I just want you 121 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: all to be cleared. Do not murder people. We got it, 122 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: we knew that before. Thanks now. I got to give 123 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: credit here Martha McCallum and Jason Congressman Crow of Colorado. 124 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: Quite an exchange here over what this is and what 125 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: this was really all about. Martha McCallum getting right. Didn't 126 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: do it. This is cut twenty listen in What needs. 127 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: To happen is they need to come to Congress and 128 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: we needed to debate this and for him to say 129 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: there's no new war. That's exactly the problem, because only 130 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: Congress can declare a war. Only Congress, according to our constitution, 131 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: has the authority how it barks, Apparently you don't because 132 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: you're saying it's war exists, so it's not a problem. 133 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: The United States Congress is the one that has. 134 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: To make typically what your issue is. 135 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: And so for members prominent members of the United States 136 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: Congress to tell young men and women of the military 137 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: that they should not abide by illegal orders and to 138 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: leave it so vague and to talk about comments that 139 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: have been made in the past and what they might 140 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: lead to, I think could potentially be very confusing for 141 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: young men and women who have committed to service, which 142 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: you honorably did, and I commend you for the sacrifice 143 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: that you made. 144 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Let me just show you this. 145 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: This is Senator the market I'm going to respond to 146 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: that military service is tough. 147 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: It's really tough. 148 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 4: We send our men and women into very difficult, very 149 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: sometimes untenable situations. I know that I've been in those situations. 150 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: That's why moral clarity, that's why reminding people about what 151 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: the obligations are, that's why abiding by the law and 152 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: providing guidance and training them in advance is important. 153 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: So what's the problem. I'm still waiting to hear from 154 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: this guy or any of the others what the problem is. 155 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: And also, you know, we're talking about a policy, we're 156 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: talking about politicians. Millions of people served in the United 157 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: States military during the War on Terror Era went to 158 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: a rock, went to Afghanistan, a few million Americans. So 159 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: you know, he's not the only one, you know what 160 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean. There's this thing of well I serve, so 161 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: you don't get to have an opinion on this. No, actually, 162 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: we all get to have an opinion on lawmakers telling 163 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: our military, hey, don't do the illegal stuff. What is that? 164 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: You know? These are left wing professors at some third 165 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: tier liberal arts college making fools of themselves. These are 166 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: senators and congressmen. What are they doing? What are they doing? So, yeah, 167 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: there you go. I just think it's one of these 168 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: moments in time where Democrat derangement. Oh here you go, 169 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: Senator Marshall Blackbird, she gets right in, she says, yeah, 170 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: these guys got TDS, and she's right, Play twenty one. 171 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: They have stage four Trump derangement syndrome. And it is 172 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 5: inconceivable that you would have elected officials that are saying 173 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 5: to uniform members of the military who have taken an 174 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 5: oath to protect and defend, that they would defy the 175 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: orders that they have been given to execute their mission. 176 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 5: I find it inconceivable, but that is what they have 177 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: chosen to do. I find this just so disturbing that 178 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 5: they would say, defy the orders if you do not 179 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 5: like the orders. 180 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: Now they're saying illegal orders. But that leaves it like, 181 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: why are you saying this if you're gonna put out 182 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: a PSA at least established for us what the illegal 183 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: order is that you're concerned about. What is it that 184 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: you think you're not not allowed to do or you 185 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: should not be doing. And also, where were these PSAs 186 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: from Democrats? As I've said, during the Obama years when 187 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: he was the drone warrior, just blowing people up all 188 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: over areas of Pakistan, places in Yemen, Somalia, blowing people up. 189 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: We're not war in any of those countries, Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, 190 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: and yet a lot of stuff going on there with 191 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: the presidential executive authority that's taking live and taking life. 192 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Did Look the Democrats, the great advantage they have is 193 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: that there's no principle they feel they must adhere to 194 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: that is a problem politically. The second it's a problem politically, 195 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: the principle gets tossed out the window. So great, when 196 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: they need the principles, they reach for them. Oh, we 197 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: can use this as a as a complaint against Trump 198 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: as a part of our hashtag resistance. No one uses 199 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: hashtags anymore. I got stop saying hashtag. But that's what 200 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: they used to call it. And the second that it's hey, guys, 201 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: our team is doing this, well, our team's allowed to 202 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: do it. We're in charge. So Democrats approach everything. It 203 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: certainly how they approach this. 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But you know, 237 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: no Kings, Trump's a fascists, all these things, you hear, 238 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: they have to come up with some way to deal 239 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: with this, that to come up with some explanation of 240 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: why Trump is so bad. And so they put out 241 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: this PSA because he's the commander in chief of the military, 242 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: and there's the Department of War. Now they have officially 243 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: changed the name. As you know, here is Stephen Miller. 244 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: Though on this situation of telling our national security apparatus 245 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: to make sure they don't do anything illegal, play twenty two. 246 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 7: It is insurrection, plainly, directly, without question. And when you 247 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 7: have one of the lawmakers on that video being unable 248 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 7: to state it, as you say, length across examination, a 249 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 7: single so called. 250 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: Illegal order, it just proves the point. 251 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 7: It's a general call for rebellion from the CIA and 252 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 7: the armed services of the United States by Democrat lawmakers 253 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 7: saying that you had not only the right, but the 254 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 7: duty and the obligation to defy orders of the commander 255 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 7: in chief, that those who carry weapons in America's name 256 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 7: should defy their chain of command and engage in open 257 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 7: acts of insurrection. These lawmakers should honestly resign in disgrace 258 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 7: and never return to public office. 259 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: Again, well, that's not going to happen. But I appreciate 260 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: Stevens's fire on this and the sense that it's there's 261 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: something aligned that feels like is crossed by by this, 262 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: And if we're gonna talk line crossing, we might as 263 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: well get into Pelosi here. Pelosi is not going to 264 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: be a problem in politics much longer, right, She's not 265 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: going to be running, and so now I guess she's 266 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: going to really say whatever's on her mind, although she's 267 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: probably been doing that all along, certainly when it comes 268 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: to Trump. But here she is saying the calling Trump 269 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: vile is no big deal, and she could have said 270 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: much worse stuff. This is twenty three. 271 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 8: One of the things you said recently in an interview, 272 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 8: who said he was that President Trump was a vile creature, 273 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 8: the worst thing on the face of the earth. Do 274 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 8: you think he's different now than he was in his 275 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 8: first term in terms of his ability as his leadership. Finally, 276 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 8: I said that as a euphemism, I could have done 277 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 8: much worse. You could have done worse. You could have 278 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 8: said worse. 279 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha ha, worst thing on the face 280 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: of the earth. Think about this. This woman was Speaker 281 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: of the House, he was third in line for the presidency. 282 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: She was running the Democrat caucus with an iron fist 283 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: for many, many, many years. And she's an imbecile, honestly, 284 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: very rich, very powerful, put an idiot, and she says 285 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: things like this, the worst thing on the face of 286 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: the ear. How can you have I ever said that 287 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: any Democrat is the worst person on the planet. No, 288 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, you have to think about this in terms 289 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: of like children throwing tantrums. So they'll say, you know, 290 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm I I'm never gonna I'm never gonna talk to 291 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: you again, or something. It's like, yeah, okay, like mommy 292 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: or Daddy said you can't have another cupcakes, You're never 293 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: gonna talk to us again. Sure, but these people have power, 294 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: so they're emotional outbursts and the fact that they can't 295 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: control themselves, and that they allow themselves to go to 296 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: this place where they can say the most extreme things, 297 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: and they do regularly, and they have so much just 298 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: bile when it comes to Trump that they're spewing all 299 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: the time. It's just aw it's so awful, very unhappy people. 300 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: That may sound like a simplification, but it's really not. 301 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: They're very unhappy people. 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Mister Governor, thank you for 338 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: making the time for us. 339 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: Cole, it's good to be with you. How are you? 340 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna mat You're just doing such a good job. Honestly, 341 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: my wife and I were the were the relatively new Floridians, 342 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: although she grew up here, but we moved back here 343 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: and uh, it's just nice to be in a state 344 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: where saying I always tell the audience, I'm like, good 345 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: andsane things are happening that I don't even know about. 346 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: I read about things that you guys are doing up 347 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: in Tallahassee and go, oh that makes sense. I like 348 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: that idea. You know. When I was in New York, 349 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: I was like, can we stop the crazy for five minutes? 350 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: Can we just stop the crazy? And bother of the 351 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: answer was generally no. Let's start with this possibility because 352 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: this is interesting. This has gotten some some pretty big 353 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: names in the commentary space. Have been having a little 354 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: back and forth online. You support getting rid of homesteaded 355 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: property tax in this state. Can you walk through why, 356 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: how and whether this is something you think we can 357 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: actually get done. 358 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: So one it's you look at what's pinching people. 359 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 9: Property taxes is one of the biggest things that's pinching people, 360 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 9: particularly young families. Why because property valuations have gone up, 361 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 9: and so you'll have somebody that's had a house for 362 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 9: thirty years, they're homesteaded. You know, you have a young 363 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 9: family bought a house three years ago. Their valuation is 364 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 9: way higher, so they're paying a much higher amount in 365 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 9: property taxes. You have to sell a house, maybe you 366 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 9: get transferred from Miami to Tampa. You buy high tax 367 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 9: bases and you're there. So we do have homestead protection. 368 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 9: It does limit the increases, but even that it compounds 369 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 9: three percent a year. So taxes is something that we're 370 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 9: completely in control of. I can't control the price of housing. 371 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 9: I mean, we can do some things to have a 372 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 9: good market. You know, we have done big insurance reforms 373 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 9: and we now have seventeen new companies come in and 374 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 9: our biggest insured Peninsula, just did a rebate or just 375 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 9: did an eight percent reduction and so we're had in 376 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 9: no storms this year, so we think they'll be positive 377 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 9: things there. But ultimately that's a private market. We control 378 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 9: the tax. So here are some numbers. If you in 379 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 9: the state of Florida gets no property tax revenue, I 380 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 9: have a surplus, I have a maxed out rainy day fund. 381 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 9: I don't get property tax revenue. 382 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 2: I don't need it. 383 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 9: So anyone that tells you all the student's going to 384 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 9: have to raise that, no, we we. In fact, I'm 385 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 9: going to give money to some of these local governments 386 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 9: that are more fiscally constrained to make up. So so 387 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 9: that's the first thing. It's all administered and decided by 388 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 9: your local authorities, and they get one hundred percent. 389 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: Of the revenue. 390 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 9: If you go to COVID, you go right before COVID 391 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 9: twenty nineteen, local governments in Florida brought into total of 392 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 9: thirty two billion dollars in property taxes. You know how 393 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 9: much they're bringing in today, six years later, fifty six 394 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 9: billion dollars. Now, listen, we have had inflation, we've had 395 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 9: head population growth, but it didn't been that much. And 396 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 9: so they're spending this money that this gusher of property 397 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 9: tax revenue they're spending and we been doging the local governments, 398 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 9: blazing Golia, our CFOs doing a fantastic job. You know, 399 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 9: he's exposing hundreds of millions of dollars in Miami Dade, 400 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 9: in Jacksonville and all these places that they're overspending. 401 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: So that's just the first thing. 402 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 9: We've had a huge increase in the size and scope 403 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 9: of local governments because they're getting this. 404 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: Now. 405 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 9: Another fact, if you take all the property tax revenue, 406 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 9: you have. 407 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: Residential and business. 408 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 9: The residential the majority of it is non homesteaded Floridians, 409 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 9: so second homes, snowbirds, Airbnb, rentals. 410 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: You name it. 411 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 9: That's the majority of residential property tax revenue. And then 412 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 9: you have the corporate or the business tax revenue. So 413 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 9: the total amount of residential Florida homestead property tax revenue 414 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 9: is between thirty and thirty three percent of all of this. Now, 415 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 9: mind you, the budgets have gone up way more than 416 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 9: thirty percent in the last few years. 417 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 2: So our view is is, well, what if. 418 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 9: You own your home, uh, and then you stop paying 419 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 9: taxes in twenty years the government takes it from you. 420 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 9: So is that really home ownership? And I think Florida 421 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 9: we're in a situation and we're still working on the 422 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 9: particulars because the details do matter, and we're going to 423 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 9: have something very positive for all this. But we are 424 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 9: in a unique position where so much of our tax 425 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 9: base is comprised. 426 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: Of people that aren't even full time residents. 427 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 9: People that own these big luxury you know houses are 428 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 9: they stay in for three three months? I'd rather them 429 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 9: take the tax that have You know a cop that's 430 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 9: got a house worth four hundred thousand dollars in Miami. 431 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 2: So we have the luxury of being able to. 432 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 9: Relieve our citizens of more and more burden of taxation. 433 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 9: So so that's the nature of it. Now you've mentioned 434 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 9: there have been some stuff. All I can tell you 435 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 9: is like having watch debates when you all of a 436 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 9: sudden start seeing the same talking points sprouting up, just 437 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 9: like magically. 438 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: You know that that's coordinated. 439 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 9: Right. That's so there's some people out there who don't 440 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 9: want to see this, and it's being orchestrated, but none 441 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 9: of the arguments really makes sense against it. And a 442 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 9: lot of these people, I think all of them don't 443 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 9: even live in Florida. So we have a specific way 444 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 9: we want to go for Floridians that will make a difference. 445 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 9: Another thing, Buck, just because there's a whole there. You 446 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 9: got to think out what are the incentives and how 447 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 9: this So, for example, I don't want to do a 448 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 9: situation where it's going to incentivize people to flood into 449 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 9: the state to claim a tax benefit from other states. 450 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 9: So it's going to be structured in a way that, 451 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 9: you know, what you elected Mendami, You're not going to 452 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 9: just be able to come down here and get and 453 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 9: get no home stead property tax like that. You know, 454 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 9: You're going to have to be somebody that's been here 455 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 9: for longer now any citizen is here now, you're one 456 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 9: hundred percent. So there's all these different things that we're 457 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 9: working on. We're working on it very smartly, and I've 458 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 9: got a lot of people that are working on it. 459 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 9: But the goal is to have something on the ballot 460 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 9: in November of twenty twenty six where voter will be 461 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 9: able to vote for it or not. 462 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: Well, I you know where I stand on this one, 463 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: and I've been talking about it for a while and 464 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: I think it's it's really important. And one thing that 465 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: I see is also a lot of people who would 466 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: perhaps even want to move within this state. They don't 467 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: want it, you know, if they want to get a 468 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: little more space or whatever it may be. They're worried 469 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: if they have to pay at the new rate on property. 470 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, property tax creates all these often I think 471 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: problematic disincentives in the market, so that that's an issue 472 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: that people don't talk about enough. But the opposition to this, 473 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen I know actually some of the 474 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: people publicly who are very like, no, you have to 475 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: someone has to pay the taxes. Is it just some 476 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: philosophical Oh, we can't give away more to the boomers 477 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: or their special interests who are aligned against this, because honestly, 478 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: I think, and I'm sure you know this, other states 479 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: are looking to see how this goes here, and they 480 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: might want to do some restructuring too. 481 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 482 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I think it's both. I don't 483 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 9: think it's I don't think those are mutually exclusive. But 484 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 9: you know, there's this argument that somehow this is a 485 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 9: quote giveaway to boomers. 486 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: Not. 487 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 9: First of all, Buck, I think you and I agree 488 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 9: if if I reduce your taxes, I'm not giving you 489 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 9: anything like like, that's your property, you own it, it's 490 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 9: not the governments. And so we go in this situation 491 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 9: where like, are you an AOC or an Obama view 492 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 9: where everything belongs to the government, and then government determines, 493 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 9: you know what you get to keep. No, my default 494 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 9: is you own your home, you get your income, You 495 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 9: get one hundred percent of your income in floridause, when 496 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 9: I have an income tax, any tax we cut, you're 497 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 9: just keeping more of what you already have had. 498 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: You earned your home, you purchased that home. 499 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 9: So philosophically, when they're talking about giveaway with respect to 500 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 9: reducing taxes, to me, that's a leftist argument. Second, and 501 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 9: you brought it up indirectly elderly people. Now there are 502 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 9: some elderly that are getting strapped with the taxes too 503 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 9: because they're on fixed income. Their taxes don't lose as 504 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 9: much because they're homesteaded, but it's still compounds for many years. 505 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: And so they're being in a situation where it's tough. 506 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 9: But if you're in a typical residential community in Florida 507 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 9: and you have somebody that's lived in a home for 508 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 9: thirty years, and then you have a young couple that 509 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 9: bought a house, say in twenty twenty one, that young 510 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 9: couple is going to have a much higher tax basis 511 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 9: for property tax. They are going to pay way more 512 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 9: in property tax than the elderly homeowner who's been grandfathered 513 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 9: in on the homestead limitation for the last however many decades. 514 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: So if you're doing a homestead exemption. 515 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 9: The young family, they gain way more with respect to 516 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 9: the total dollar amount that they're doing. So I think 517 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 9: what it does is that when you have people out 518 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 9: of state, they don't understand how Florida works. You know, 519 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 9: they somehow think that, like, you know, elderly person has 520 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 9: a half million dollar home, young couple has a half 521 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 9: million dollar home. Oh yeah, the elderly is getting as 522 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 9: the same benefit. In reality, that is just not the 523 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 9: way it works because of people having owned their home. So, 524 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 9: you know, I think that it's it clearly is not 525 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 9: being done with people that are actually in Florida. I 526 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 9: want to do, but I do think some of it 527 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 9: is special interest. But I do think some of it 528 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 9: is ideological, and I think it's more of a left. 529 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: Bent Yeah again, I totally agree with that one, and 530 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: this audience already knows that, so that's not anything new. 531 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little surprised to see some of the 532 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: voices quite honestly, that are on the right who seem 533 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: to be have a problem with this. I think it's bizarre, 534 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: but anyway, I actually wanted it if I could. Now 535 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: you probably saw this governor tomorrow of Trump and Mamdani 536 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: are meeting, and I just think this is an opportunity 537 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: for you to just in the broadest terms. We have 538 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: a huge Florida audience, we have a huge New York audience, 539 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: and obviously people all across the country are listening. You 540 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: have more people in this state, right, twenty one million 541 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: and half the budget, Yeah, half the budget of New York. 542 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: How is that possible? Like, what is New York doing? 543 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: How is it spending twice as much money with less people? 544 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 9: Well, not only that, buck, New York City has eight 545 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 9: million people. In New York City's budget is bigger than 546 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 9: the entire state of Florida's budget, and we have close 547 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 9: to twenty three and a half million people. And that's 548 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 9: before Mondami, you know, takes over the grocery stores and 549 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 9: does things that's going to cost even more. Buddy, It's 550 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 9: crazy what what happens? So I think a lot of 551 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 9: it is, you know, they direct money to special interest 552 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 9: They have different people who are kind of part of 553 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 9: their patronage network. 554 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: In Florida, you will always. 555 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 9: Spend money on you know, obviously, you know, we have 556 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 9: a federal state that that does medicate as all states do, 557 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 9: where we didn't expand it under Obamacare, but we do 558 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 9: have that portion. 559 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: Education, the state has a. 560 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 9: Big role in helping to fund school districts as well 561 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 9: as our school choice scholarship program, which has a half 562 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 9: a million students on it now. Infrastructure, I've been able 563 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 9: to accelerate projects all around the state of Florida, so 564 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 9: we're delivering some five or ten years ahead of schedule, 565 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 9: and that's meaningful for people in terms of their family 566 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 9: time and not to be in traffic so much. And 567 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 9: I know there's other We got a lot of work 568 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 9: in some other Miami's tougher because it's nice, harder to 569 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 9: build in different areas, but in other parts of the 570 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 9: state we've made really good progress I. 571 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: Think on that. 572 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 9: And then we've done the biggest conservation program and environmental 573 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 9: restoration with Florida's Everglades, which is a huge success that 574 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 9: we've done. We did a Florida Wildlife Corridor too, because 575 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 9: we don't want the whole state to be a concrete jungle, 576 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 9: so we're spending money on things that really matter to people. 577 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 9: But that's really what we spend it on. I think 578 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 9: New York it's all about kind of whoever's in the 579 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 9: barnacles attached to the ship and all the different constituencies 580 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 9: in the Democratic Party they're doing it. 581 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: And it's interesting. 582 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 9: They'll say, oh, well, you know they pay better pension benefits, 583 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 9: you know, for their police officers and fire. Well, the 584 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 9: thing is a lot of those people move to Florida 585 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 9: and spend. 586 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: Those pensions Florida. 587 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 9: So it's like you're doing that, and it's like benefiting 588 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 9: our economy down here because you're driving these people away. 589 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 9: But I really think, you know, in terms of there's 590 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 9: obviously a big different stream the president and Mandami. Mandami's 591 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 9: gonna do dumb things in terms of the economy. He's 592 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 9: going to try to raise taxes, He's obviously going to 593 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 9: be governed by a wok agenda, educational stuff for all that. 594 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 9: But the number one thing that's going to try to 595 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 9: people out of that city is that he hates the police. 596 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 9: He wanted to bolish the NMPD. He thinks you should 597 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 9: send social workers to inswer the nine one one calls, 598 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 9: So he goes down that road. It was bad under 599 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 9: the Blasio. It didn't get much better under the current mayor. 600 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 9: But I think he's going to make build the Blasio 601 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 9: looks like a right winger. 602 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be really scary. 603 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the place. Unfortunately, having worked with the 604 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: NYPD for a short while, Governor, I can tell you 605 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: that's the place for the mayor. He is kind of 606 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: the alpha end omega, like he can make the determinations 607 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: about what policing is like in the city. These other things, 608 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: the economic things probably can't. But Governor of Santists of Flora, 609 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: thank you sir for all you do. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 637 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcasts. 638 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Great chat 639 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: there with Gun or De Santis Coming up, we'll talk 640 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: to Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. We're gonna discuss FBI reform, 641 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: the Epstein file release for the for the right Epstein, 642 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: meaning we're you know, the Epstein that we're all talking about, 643 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: not the Jasmine Crockett Epstein picked out of the phone 644 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: book at random. That's not good. That's not a good move. 645 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: And a lot of you we're not gonna have time 646 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: to get to all of them, but I appreciate it. 647 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: We remember, we read what we can on the air, 648 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: but we see all of your VIP emails and we 649 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: see all the talkbacks that you send in the transcript 650 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: of them. So your voice, in a sense is it's 651 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: being well being read. I was gonna say heard, but 652 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: we're seeing your content. So we just have a tight 653 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: turnaround on some of this stuff. But a lot of 654 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: you veterans are like, how dare they with this PSA? 655 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: And we got a huge veteran audience here, Klin and 656 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: I are both honestly, it's one of our things about 657 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: the show that we're super honored about day in and 658 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: day out of how many of you were veterans and 659 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: listening here. VIP email from Dave as a military veteran 660 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: of twenty three years. I am disgusted by the recent 661 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: PSA from the Democratic Congress people reminding the military they 662 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: can disobey unlawful orders. Duh. To suggest otherwise is insulting. 663 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: In fact, I consider their action highly seditious. We the 664 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: military are well aware of our duties under the Constitution, 665 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: are they? 666 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: Dave? 667 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: I totally totally agree that it's a weird and really subversive. 668 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: You said wrote seditious, That too, really subversive thing to do. 669 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: A It's very underhanded, and it's really meant to be. 670 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: It's an unfair attack, that's the part of it. 671 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 6: You know. 672 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: There are things you can criticize Trump for the Republicans 673 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: for fine, lots of things, tons of things, you know, 674 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: and I may disagree with it, but it's fair game 675 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: to criticize unlawful orders that the military would have to say, 676 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to disobey a direct order? Well, what what 677 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: is that exactly? Meaning? What is the unlawful order? VIP 678 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: email from Reid Also here we go. Having served the 679 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: United States Submarine Force for twenty years, I can assure 680 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: you one thing, no military member is going to listen 681 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: to these clowns and refuse to follow an order. Not 682 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: going to happen. No man or woman is going to 683 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: risk their career in time in the brig because they're 684 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: upset over one of these is. These Democrats are nuts. 685 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, these Democrats are nuts. And so it's 686 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: a submarine force. And so then you're a submariner, right, 687 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: that's what I believe. I have learned the hard way here. 688 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 1: Not a sub mariner, a submariner. But the baseball team 689 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: is the mariners, still, right. It's tough to keep up 690 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: with all this stuff. There's a lot of nautical terminology 691 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: out there too that I got I gotta learn. But 692 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: stand fast. We will come back in with Senator Ron 693 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: Johnson here shortly. So ahoy e, mayti Senator. That's pirates, 694 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: that's not military. You know what I mean. Senator Ron 695 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: Johnson's coming up. We'll be with you in a second.