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Speaker 1: Lou Penrose sitting in for John Cobelt this week.

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Speaker 2: More news on the shooter from yesterday, good news and

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Speaker 2: not so good news. The good news is the twenty

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Speaker 2: individuals that were injured are all set to recover. That

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Speaker 2: includes the fifteen of those twenty who are children and

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Speaker 2: yesterday were in critical condition, children as young as six.

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Speaker 2: But the reports at of Minneapolis and the area hospitals

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Speaker 2: is everyone.

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Speaker 1: Will recover but will be hurting. Nothing brings back the

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Speaker 1: death of the eight year old and the ten year old.

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Speaker 2: The bad news is we have learned more about the

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Speaker 2: shooter and none of it helps us understand a motive.

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Speaker 2: ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst Brad Garrett joins us. Brad,

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Speaker 2: thanks for spending some time with us. The FBI is

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Speaker 2: digging through what appears to be like pages and pages

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Speaker 1: What do we have so far?

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Speaker 3: So you have to look at mass shooters that you

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Speaker 3: sort of fit this particular shooter's profile, and I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you most of the things I've read about him are

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Speaker 3: reviewed fit many other mass shootings that I've looked at, investigated,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. And it is an obsession, and obsessions drive

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Speaker 3: people into great detail. In this case, it's all dark.

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Speaker 3: It's anger, it's rage, it's calling you know, every sort

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Speaker 3: of group that you can think of, anti Black, anti Muslim.

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Speaker 3: It goes on and on his sort of level of

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Speaker 3: hatred of so many individuals. But there's for him, there's

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Speaker 3: all a purpose in doing that, because he's trying to

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Speaker 3: come up with enough energy and enough I guess gumption

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Speaker 3: to go and commit what he did yesterday. And something

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Speaker 3: triggered him. I don't know what it was, maybe school

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Speaker 3: starting because he was a student at that school and

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Speaker 3: his mother used to work there. He would know, you

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Speaker 3: know approximately and it may well be published when the

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Speaker 3: kids would be in the church itself, and that's when

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Speaker 3: he hit it. Apparently he tried to get in and

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Speaker 3: they had locked the doors. So this conversation would even

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Speaker 3: be worse that you and I are having today if

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Speaker 3: in fact he did all that shooting, if he had

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Speaker 3: done it inside the church. So I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: what you've got with him, And he was on a mission.

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Speaker 3: He knew he was going to die. Apparently he didn't

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Speaker 3: care about that. He just wanted to go out with

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Speaker 3: and so to speak at a blaze of glory and

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Speaker 3: then have his YouTube stuff published after he's dead again

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Speaker 3: just sort of you know, it's a power thing, right,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about him today who've never even heard of

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Speaker 3: him forty eight hours ago. So that's what a lot

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Speaker 3: of this is. It's fame when it boils right down

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Speaker 2: So when he mentioned siblings in some of his statements,

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Speaker 2: some of his writings, so there were siblings, we haven't

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Speaker 2: heard from them. From what I understand, the Minneapolis p

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Speaker 2: D have not been able successful, not been successful in

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Speaker 2: speaking with the mother. Certainly somebody in the family would

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Speaker 2: have noticed that he was a little off, and somebody

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Speaker 2: had to know he was assembling weapons or thought about weapons,

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Speaker 2: or talked about weapons. I mean, there had to be

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Speaker 3: Well, you would think we don't know enough about his

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Speaker 3: living circumstances. The police and the FBI got four search warrants,

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Speaker 3: one obviously for the church in the school, and then

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Speaker 3: three others for three different residences. So it's unclear to

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Speaker 3: All this stuff, you can't underestimate. The fact was that

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Speaker 3: the vast majority of mass shooters are going to isolation,

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Speaker 3: the writings the YouTube were all done alone in some location.

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Speaker 3: And to your point, this stuff is, he's so dark

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Speaker 3: and so bizarre, how could you not notice, at least

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Speaker 3: behaviorally a change in him? So we'll see what that goes, right.

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Speaker 2: That's always the curiosity to me is that how do

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Speaker 1: Mumbled about this, he's got.

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Speaker 2: I mean, nobody could exist with a car paying car insurance, gasoline,

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Speaker 3: Well, you'd be surprised. I mean, there's a a term

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Speaker 3: you I worked flial offender cases where I'll give you

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Speaker 3: one example in reference to a serial rapist who had

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Speaker 3: to work, come back home, make breakfast for his kids, kiss,

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Speaker 3: they're able to have parallel personalities. Now, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: this kid may have some version of that. So if

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Speaker 3: you have the ability to go do what he did yesterday,

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Speaker 3: you can compartmentalize everything. And he's just in his mind,

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Speaker 3: he had justified what he did yesterday that it needed

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Speaker 3: need to be punished because they have punished him at least,

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously in his mind of course. But that's

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Speaker 2: Brad Garrett, ABC News Crime and Terrorism ataalist, Thanks so much,

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time today bringing us up to speed. On

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Speaker 2: the latest that we know about this individual. We do

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Speaker 2: know now that he did, in fact attend that Catholic school.

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Speaker 2: We learned yesterday that his mother worked at least for

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Speaker 2: where the children sat, which window to go to to

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Speaker 1: I presume, I mean what, I'm not convinced the mother

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Speaker 2: I appreciate Brad's analysis that I'd be surprised. I just

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Speaker 2: it would be astounding to me if nobody knew except

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Speaker 2: the guy that.

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Speaker 1: Sold him the guns.

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Speaker 2: And I understand the guns were purchased legally and recently,

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Speaker 2: so something snapped. But nevertheless, the good news today is

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless hurting.

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Speaker 2: Lou Penrose if John Cobalt on the John Cobalt Show

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 1: Lou Penrose sitting in for Coblt.

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Speaker 2: This week, we know a little bit more about the

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Speaker 2: writings of the shooter.

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Speaker 1: From yesterday, and it gets more and more bizarre.

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Speaker 2: According to The New York Post, he wrote, I only

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Speaker 2: keep the long hair because it's pretty much my last

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Speaker 2: shred of being trends. I'm tired of being trans I

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Speaker 2: wish I never brainwashed myself, he wrote. And that was

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Speaker 2: not even in English. That was in some foreign tongue

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Speaker 2: and translated. And he wrote that in some of the manuals.

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Speaker 2: But I saw illustration, various illustrations inside his diary, if.

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Speaker 1: You will, He literally drew a picture of the church.

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Speaker 2: With the pews and the fountain and the altar, so

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Speaker 2: he had everything planned out. Oh and they're still arguing

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Speaker 2: about the confusion over the name Robert and Robin. We

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Speaker 2: learned yesterday that Robert at seventeen, said he didn't want

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Speaker 2: he identified as a woman. But he's a miner at seventeen,

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Speaker 2: so he asked his mother to take him to court

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Speaker 2: at the request of the parent, granted the miner's name

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Speaker 2: change at seventeen. He could have done it when he

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Speaker 1: I find that very curious. Why not just wait? In fact,

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Speaker 1: the name change wasn't approved.

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Speaker 2: Until twenty twenty, which means he would have been a

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Speaker 2: he could have done it himself, and recently writing that

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Speaker 1: He said he's tired of being trans.

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Speaker 2: And the folks at CNN, they don't think the trans

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Speaker 2: be trans anymore. He wished he never brainwashed himself. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you can brainwash yourself. Here's CNN's Jake

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Speaker 2: Tapper making us all feel like where the problem is.

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Speaker 1: There's been some confusion about what the shooter's name was.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Robin Westman's mother applied to change her child's name

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Speaker 1: It was at well.

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Speaker 5: At one point Robert Paul Westman, but since she identified

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that there was some confusion. We're the

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Speaker 2: And Robin doesn't want to even be Robin anymore, tired

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Well, Robert F. Kennedy Junior was asked about this.

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Speaker 2: They asked him, Look, he may very well have been

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Speaker 2: on some kind of psychiatric drugs, some kind of antidepressant.

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Speaker 2: There's all kinds of drugs out there, and there are

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Speaker 2: drugs being given to people who are transitioning. Was he

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Speaker 2: chemically transitioning? What's going on? And are you, as the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of Health and Human Services, looking at the potential

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Speaker 2: side effects of some of these drugs They're giving some

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Speaker 2: So there are some of these drugs and they're not

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Speaker 2: just being given to trans kids, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: young people. By the way, I don't like that they're

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Speaker 2: calling him a kid. He's twenty three years old. Near

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Speaker 2: Camp Pendleton, forty two thousand US Marines, the average age

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Speaker 2: twenty three. So these those Marines are certainly men and women.

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Speaker 1: So this isn't a kid. This is the grown ass man.

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Speaker 2: And maybe and clearly very dangerous and capable of horrible

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Speaker 2: crimes with weapons on and being potentially administered drugs where

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Speaker 2: the side effects are homicidal thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is really kind of crazy.

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Speaker 7: You know, many of them on there have black black

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Speaker 7: bread and those are the kind of studies that we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Robert F.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior is going to do those studies homicidal ideations.

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Speaker 2: Know what that means. I don't like the sound of that.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it means, it does not sound good. The black

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Speaker 2: Mayor Karen Bass has ordered increased police presence around.

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Speaker 8: Schools, particularly Catholic schools, which is surprising because I thought

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Speaker 1: Louke Penrose sitting here for John Cobelt. This week. Thanks

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Speaker 9: I'm so glad you guys are talking about this. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the call. I don't know if they

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Speaker 2: I think that they are often over prescribed. And look,

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Kennedy said he was going to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my middle son three four five years ago. Maybe

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Speaker 2: You can always take it away. You can try tate up,

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Speaker 1: So but ultimately we tried it and he said.

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Speaker 1: I just said that's enough. Let's just he would go

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Speaker 2: So wouldn't the illegals that have their kids in Catholic

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Speaker 1: Lou Penrose sitting in for John coblt this week.

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Speaker 2: Coming up following the News at two, Governor Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: He's had enough, too much crime in California.

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Speaker 2: He has been saying that everywhere else has a higher

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Speaker 1: Team to work with local law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: The squad car, everybody down, get on your.

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Speaker 2: Knees, including working with Border Patrol. Wait do you hear

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Speaker 2: The last time I heard him mention the Border Patrol

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Speaker 2: he was angry that the Border Patrol were in Sacramento

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Speaker 2: doing interior enforcement.

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Speaker 1: Now he's happy to deploy.

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Speaker 2: A crime suppression unit in San Diego that's gonna work

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Speaker 2: with not just the local law enforcement authorities in San Diego,

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Speaker 2: but the Border Patrol.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom all of a sudden is concerned about crime?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think Gaven Newsom all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: thinks there's too much crime in California, in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: the Bay Area. I wonder what else is going on

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Speaker 2: out there, who else is talking about crime, who else

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Speaker 2: is stepping up efforts to combat crime, who else is

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Speaker 2: having huge success in lowering crime rates? And what other

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Speaker 2: major American politician likes the Border Patrol?

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Speaker 1: Very curious.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you all about it coming up following the

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Speaker 2: News at two o'clock. Will also be joined by Michael

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Speaker 2: Monks in the KFI newsroom. He's been covering this for

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Speaker 2: quite some time. And you know, of course that Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom is now trying to compete with President Trump, who

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Speaker 2: looks like the crime fighter of the century with respect

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Speaker 2: to what he is accomplishing in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: So they are going back and forth.

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Speaker 2: They're not talking to each other, but he is mentioning

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Speaker 2: President Trump all the time. He did it yesterday at

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Speaker 2: a conference for Politico. I'll share with what I'll share

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Speaker 2: with you what he said. President Trump is mentioning California

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Speaker 2: Governor Newsom a lot. The two of them are on

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Speaker 2: each other's minds a lot. The difference is Trump is

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Speaker 2: in office and Newsom wants to be the president and

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Speaker 2: Trump won't be on the ballot when Newsom is a candidate,

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Speaker 2: should he get the nomination, unless, of course, Trump runs

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight, Now, that is unconstitutional at this point. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: California Governor Gavenusam said he is convinced that somehow the

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Speaker 2: Constitution will be amended and Trump will seek the nomination.

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Speaker 1: Win it, and run. So I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: prophecy delusion. I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: But it was a heck of a day for California

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Speaker 2: Governor Gavenusom and uh and these he we hear this

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Speaker 2: phrase a lot living rent free in someone's brain. There

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Speaker 2: is no question that the President of the United States

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Speaker 2: is living rent free in the brain of the California governor.

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Speaker 2: And we'll I'll share it with you. You can make

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Speaker 2: your decisions for yourself. But that's all coming up following

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Speaker 2: the news at two?

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Speaker 3: Can youbody got wives out there on the SSRIs?

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Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what mine's on them and it

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Speaker 2: kills their sex drive.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that gets a boot.

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Speaker 10: When I was a kid, our brother and I in

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Speaker 10: grade school. I found this out a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 10: We were given white crosses. You know, speed calm you down,

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Speaker 10: because I'm kids, it has an opposite effect instead of

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Speaker 10: speeding you up. It kind of mellows you out first,

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Speaker 10: have a good job.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 2: I don't fully understand that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's true. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't really make sense if you think about it,

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Speaker 2: when does it end? Like when does that end? Because

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Speaker 2: at some point speed speeds you up? Like so is

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Speaker 2: that like does puberty flip that they give children speed

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Speaker 2: to slow them down? And then when does that end?

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Speaker 1: Because there are teenagers that get.

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Speaker 2: Addicted to amphetamines not to be depressed, but for the

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Speaker 2: opposite effect. So look, if the chemistry is that cock eye,

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Speaker 2: then maybe Robert F. Kennedy Junior is onto something when

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Speaker 2: he says we need to study all of this all

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Speaker 2: over again.

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Speaker 7: You know, many of them on there have black box

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Speaker 7: warnings that weren't of suicidal ideation and homicidal ideation.

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Speaker 1: So we need we can't.

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Speaker 6: Exclude those as a call bread and those are the

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Speaker 6: kind of nutties that we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Some of the more common black box warnings that he's

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Speaker 2: referencing there. These are warnings issued by the US Food

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Speaker 2: and Drug Administration. The FDA alert prescribers, the prescribers, not

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Speaker 2: the patients to serious hazards that could lead to death

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Speaker 2: serious injury. Some of the more prominent black box warnings

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Speaker 2: provide critical information about potential risk, vulnerable patients, the populations

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Speaker 2: of those patients, or the critical dosing instructions. So what

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Speaker 2: he's saying there is that doctors need to be more

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Speaker 2: thoughtful and how they administered these drugs.

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Speaker 10: It does.

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Speaker 2: Remain to be seen what exactly was in his system.

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Speaker 2: But we know very little more about this shooter from yesterday, so.

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Speaker 1: There's been some confusion about what the shooter's name was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of confusion about the name of the shooter.

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Speaker 1: That's what CNN's focused on. The rest of us want

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Speaker 1: to know why he did it.

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Speaker 11: Robin Westman obtained the three guns legally and recently, according

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Speaker 11: to Minneapolis police. The police now shifting their investigation into

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Speaker 11: the writings from what seems like the shooter's journal that

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Speaker 11: includes sketches of a.

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Speaker 1: Picture, technical problems there, yeah, sketches of the church. That

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Speaker 1: is pretty spooky stuff.

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Speaker 2: And we still don't know anything about the siblings. We

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Speaker 2: still don't know anything about the mother, the FBI said,

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Speaker 2: or rather, the Minneapolis Police Department said, they have not

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Speaker 2: yet been successful in interviewing the mother, which means to

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Speaker 2: me that the mother is still at large. I still

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Speaker 2: I know these are all adults, or at least he's

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Speaker 2: an adult, the mother's an adult.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how old the siblings are.

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Speaker 2: But at some point, if we're going to continue what

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Speaker 2: I call this extended adolescence, and we all are guilty

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Speaker 2: of it because so many of us refer to him

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Speaker 2: as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Look, this kid was troubled. This was some troubled kid

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Speaker 1: twenty three years old. I don't know where he was living.

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Speaker 2: Let's, for the sake of argument, say he was living

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Speaker 2: with his mother, and his mother was paying his car insurance,

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Speaker 2: and you know, his mother was paying room and board.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if he had a job or not,

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Speaker 2: but he had some kind of cash because he was

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Speaker 2: able to obtain these guns. Now the mother could say,

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Speaker 2: I had no idea, But you do have responsibility over

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Speaker 2: what goes on in your house. Like if you own

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Speaker 2: a house and you live in that house and your

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Speaker 2: son is running a meth lab in the basement or

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Speaker 2: in one of the bedrooms, like you are as the homeowner,

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Speaker 2: responsible for what's going on in that house. So at

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Speaker 2: what point do we extend the responsibility to the enabling

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Speaker 2: parent of these adults but effectively extended adolescents, which is

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Speaker 2: what really it appears he is choose.

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Speaker 11: Pelisia shooter appears to have timed a YouTube video to

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Speaker 11: post yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It's under review by the FBI.

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Speaker 11: The video contains weapon inscriptions containing hateful, disturbing messages targeting blah.

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Speaker 1: The problems there.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, he went after everybody. He was targeting Jews

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Speaker 2: in the Holocaust. He was questioning whether Jews died in

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Speaker 2: the Holocaust or not enough died.

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Speaker 1: I mean, very hateful things. He went on.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, went on the black population, Asian population, certainly President Trump.

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Speaker 1: He didn't like him either. So it was completely deranged.

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Speaker 2: And in many respects I kind of agree with Sharon

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Speaker 2: on this from Gary and Shannon, Like, I am fascinated

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Speaker 2: with crime, and you know, crime stories when there are

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Speaker 2: motives involved that regard you know, wealth or greed or

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Speaker 2: vengeance or crimes of passion and all that other stuff

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Speaker 2: that's the stuff of movies.

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Speaker 1: When it's just the writings of a lunatic, what's the difference?

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Speaker 1: Who cares what he says?

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Speaker 11: Like?

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Speaker 1: How does that help anybody understand?

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Speaker 2: More importantly, how does that help anybody stop this from

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Speaker 2: happening again going forward?

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Speaker 1: Which ultimately is the goal here, Lou Penrose.

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